Genesis 6 Nephilim evidence they were fallen angels and talk of Ti and Do

The following is a letter to a guest on coast to coast radio that includes a detailed re-translation of part of Genesis Chapter 6 that talks of the Nephilim:
Hi Scotty
Here is the report I received from Coast to Coast summarizing what you spoke about which I will comment about after the report:

***** Report states:

“The Nephilim:

In the second half, paranormal investigator and author Scotty Roberts discussed his research into the Nephilim and their origins. He explained that his investigation of the infamous entities focused on the language of the original Hebrew texts where they are described. As such, he dismissed the popular notion that the Nephilim were “fallen angels,” since the entities are never given that moniker. Rather, they are said to be the result of a union between “watchers” and humans. Roberts theorized that the creation of the Nephilim could be traced all the way back to the Garden of Eden and a dalliance between Eve and an entity metaphorically called a “serpent.” As to the origins of these “visitors” who played a hand in creating the Nephilim, he acknowledged that they could have been spiritual beings, “minor Gods,” or even extraterrestrials.

Ultimately, Roberts said, these Nephilim are blamed for corrupting the human race by sharing forbidden knowledge with them, a theme appears in many creation stories. In light of this corruption, he surmised, the great flood of Noah’s Ark lore was orchestrated not to punish the corrupt humans, but to wipe away the presence of the Nephilim on Earth. However, Roberts suggested that the Nephilim may still be on the planet as what we call “demons.” He cited a passage in the book of Enoch which says that the “spirits” of the Nephilim that died in the flood remained on Earth in a ghostly form to “wreak the same havoc, from a spirit form, on humanity that they wreaked while in physical form.”
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Sawyer’s comments:

serpent is hebrew “hisser”, in other words someone who spoke softly to entice, deceive and manipulate their subject.

I think you are mistaken as to the classification of the Nephilim not being “fallen angels” because of not having documentation as that’s what the phrase “sons of God” together with “giants” represents but one has to the etomology of these phrases/words and their context. As with many of these historic records there are layers of meanings, each of which have their own degree of accuracy.

First off here are the key versus Moses authored, but of course to obtain a more complete meaning one must look at the Hebrew:

Gen 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Gen 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

Gen 6:4 (There were) giants in the (earth) in (those days); and (also) after that, when (the) sons (of) God (came) in (unto the) daughters of men, (and they) bare [children] (to them, the) same [became] (mighty) men (which) [were] (of) old, men (of) renown.

*** Side Note: Words in parentheses ( ) were put in by me to identify what the translators added to round out the translation in English as they were not all or exactly what was taken from the original manuscripts though many time some of them were added because there is no word for word translation between languages. Often one Hebrew word, for instance, a noun also has a verb associated, thus the Hebrew word for “in” is “bow'” pronounced as bow but has many associated applications according to the context but essentially means “to go or come” as applied to abiding, applying, attaining, befalling, bringing forth or to pass, causing or “entering in or into”, which is what goes well with the words “daughters (of) men, and they bare [children]” which generally took place from sexual intercourse. However in the previous usage of the word “in”, as in, “giants (in the) earth” there is no absolute reason “in” was most appropriate as it could have been “giants on earth” or “giants around or near or under the earth because the Hebrew word “bow'” was not literally in the verse at that usage though it was recorded as in the verse pertaining to the “sons (of) God (came) IN (unto the) daughters (of) men”. In this later usage of IN just noted, to add “came” seems befitting the context though one could also have put in “entered” in, to indicate intercourse that was the likley way in which the daughters were brought to “bare” (give birth). It could have also been translated to “cause daughter to bare. In fact most of the definition of “in” can have a direct relationship to the birthing process between these sons of God and daughters of men. Here is the Strongs Dictionary listing for:

in =
935 bow’ bo a primitive root; to go or come (in a wide variety of applications):–abide, apply, attain, X be, befall, + besiege, bring (forth, in, into, to pass), call, carry, X certainly, (cause, let, thing for) to come (against, in, out, upon, to pass), depart, X doubtless again, + eat, + employ, (cause to) enter (in, into, -tering, -trance, -try), be fallen, fetch, + follow, get, give, go (down, in, to war), grant, + have, X indeed, (in-)vade, lead, lift (up), mention, pull in, put, resort, run (down), send, set, X (well) stricken (in age), X surely, take (in), way.

However in the context of the full definition of the word translated to “giants” and the association with these being “fallen” as will be described in detail below and the association that having fallen was also to have failed and how the assocation of having failed was also having “died” (primariy in terms of one’s spirit/soul (though also the body) and the associated idea of such death termed as the “second death” being a condition of no return, thus final and therefore “hell” and that being spoken about as being “under” the earth then brings rise to the idea that these “giants” were in fact living underground though if they were without physical bodies could still be under the earth though it would be a severe distraction from any practical reality to think that in spirit form they could cause human women to “bare” children so we can safely surmise that these “giants” were physical.

Now where we see square brackets used in notation: [ ] were where the original authors were rounding out the interpretaion.

*** end of side note ***

The main keyword I wanted to focus on here, that is strong evidence that these were in fact “fallen angels” is “giants”. I am using Strongs Hebrew/Greek to English dictionary as primary reference:

giants =
5303 nphiyl nef-eel’ or nphil {nef-eel’}; from ‘naphal’ (5307); properly, a feller, i.e. a bully or tyrant:–giant.

So the first indicator of mistranslation is evident in the choice of the term “giant” that really is a “size” or “stature” term where bully and tyrant depict behavior, a significantly more descriptive term, yet to stop there would be a poor job of translation so we look to it’s orgin in 5307 that they are saying boils down to being a “feller”.

5307 naphal naw-fal’ a primitive root; to fall, in a great variety of applications (intransitive or causative, literal or figurative):–be accepted, cast (down, self, (lots), out), cease, die, divide (by lot), (let) fail, (cause to, let, make, ready to) fall (away, down, -en, -ing), fell(-ing), fugitive, have (inheritance), inferior, be judged (by mistake for ‘palal’ (6419)), lay (along), (cause to) lie down, light (down), be (X hast) lost, lying, overthrow, overwhelm, perish, present(-ed, -ing), (make to) rot, slay, smite out, X surely, throw down.

Notice the first phrase used: “to fall” used in many applications, so why didn’t they say something to the affect of, “Gen 6:4 There were “fallen” in the Earth in those days…

Now this indicates these “fallen” are different from the “sons of God” but first let’s play out this “naphal” translation more thoroughly.

It’s very strange that the next defintion says “be accepted” while almost all the rest of the terms/phrases indicate the opposite (though one would have to know who or what was doing the “accepting”. Perhaps it is related to their being “in the earth” thus the Earth accepted them.

However the next word definition is “cast” (down,self,(lots), out), thus now it implies though these may have been accepted by someone/something they were also cast down or out, which can then be understood as “ceasing, dieing, being divided away from, having failed at something that was the “fall”.

And here is a huge curiosity. Note the initial most proper translation of nphiyl was “feller” – well is that as in “someone who fell” a “fell-er” so was a description of what occurred, where the “bully or tyrant” part was more indicative of the behavior that went with these “fallen” ones.

To play out the rest of the definitions for naphal we see that these were now “fugitives” who have inherited something as a result (the inside of the Earth?) and were “judged” that has a depiction of “laying down, downing their light, having lost, due to their lying and attempts to overthrow, overwhelm what they presumably were thrown away (fell away from), thus they perished from that previous state/status that resulted in their being slayed, smitten, thrown down, and to rot(decay) (as opposed to the opposite of have eternal life as this is all in the context of the Garden as designed and developed by the plural Elohiym – “supreme or above human beings that were to humans their judges and rulers” and a plural term indicating there were more than one of these in operation in this record.

Additional evidence of the definitions follow:

5308
nphal
nef-al’
(Aramaic) corresponding to ‘naphal’ (5307):–fall (down), have occasion.

5309
nephel
neh’-fel
or nephel {nay’-fel}; from ‘naphal’ (5307); something fallen, i.e. an abortion:–untimely birth.

Note even in the pronounciation of all these words is the sound of “fell” as in “nay’-fel” which sounds like “away fall” or as would be said in English “fall away”. We can think that such a depiction of the pronounciation couldn’t possabily contain the meaning as one is Hebrew and the other is an English method of pronounciation but all languages develop from sounds so it really is not a big leap to see the sounding as demonstration of the word’s original meaning.

Now this doesn’t answer the other part of the idea that these “giants” were fallen ANGELS. They obviously fell and/or were removed (cast down) from something that was up or from a former position or status or condition and even from a different environment as you can’t fall up in any way as everything on earth is with the understanding of gravity drawing or pushing us down in it’s physics even if applied to one’s position or status as in a career or task. One does not fall down to a better or more advanced or more prestigious or popular or even altruistic position.

And this may seem circumstantial but it’s worth keeping in mind that this related term nephel as being “something fallen” is exampled as “an abortion” or a birth that was premature, failed, didn’t make it to full term needed to be a viable birth thus untimely which goes to the part of the definition surrounding these having “failed” or “ceased, died, perished” in some way, the result of having fallen which also has the relationship to “acceptance” in not being accepted in what they were previously engaged as one can’t fail from something never endeavoured. So if the term for a failed birth is the termination of that birth as in an abortion then what was terminated was that birth and the Life that would have went with it.

But to further prove this idea out that these “fallen” were serving the Kingdom of Elohyim as messengers (angels) would logically follow that having fallen, it would have been from some position of service to the Elohiym which a messenger (angel) is defined as.

One can look at Gen 6:4 and see that following the text about the “fell-ers” those that fell in, onto the Earth “after that when” actual words in the Hebrew manuscript text the sons of God came in to the human daughters (distinuishing these “sons” from humans(hebrew adam (men)).

Thus we need to examine these three words, “after that, when” to see if there is a more contextual interpretation.

And in so doing, some very interesting ideas surface. The Hebrew for AFTER is achar but as an adverb this is a description of some action in it’s usage and we see the primary list of options under #309 (what 310 comes from) as to loiter, procrastinate, defer, delay, and even related to the idea of “the hind part” to hinder (follow after the choices in the noun of this verse, the fallen “fell-ers” which is related to being slack, staying (as opposed to moving forward), causing to tarry (longer, all the same sense).

I like “hinder” (for reasons that will become evident), but to hinder what, to which we look at the definition of “that”, Hebrew #3651, ken, from 3559’s kuwn = hindering someone’s “being erect” or “setting upright”, being faithful, firm in their stand, their establishing perfection, self preparation, orgaining, stability in terms of their “right manner, right timing and right relations” their cause to become perfect, to have faithfullness and stability.

So who is being hindered from their being faithful and firm and acting in right manner, (pertaining to the object of these records, to learn the lessons involved and stemming from the choice of their forefathers back to the start of the current civilization experiment) but the Sons(offspring) of the Elohiym(God) (work for the Elohiym, watching or messaging(thus angels)) which succeeded in also causing their fall from their relationship with the Elohyim by their “coming or entering into” (impregnating) the daughters of humans (not part of their angelic task instructions) to produce offspring that became powerful tyrants among humans that the Elohiym then determined needed to be erradicated which leads into the story of Noah.

Here is the reseach used above, but afterwards I will begin to further develope this translation/interpretation:

*after =
310 ‘achar akh-ar’ from ”achar’ (309); properly, the hind part; generally used as an adverb or conjunction, after (in various senses):–after (that, -ward), again, at, away from, back (from, -side), behind, beside, by, follow (after, -ing), forasmuch, from, hereafter, hinder end, + out (over) live, + persecute, posterity, pursuing, remnant, seeing, since, thence(-forth), when, with.

309 ‘achar aw-khar’ a primitive root; to loiter (i.e. be behind); by implication to procrastinate:–continue, defer, delay, hinder, be late (slack), stay (there), tarry (longer).

311 ‘achar akh-ar'(Aramaic) corresponding to ”achar’ (310); after:–(here-)after.
312 ‘acher akh-air’ from ”achar’ (309); properly, hinder; generally, next, other, etc.:–(an-)other man, following, next, strange.

*that =
3651 ken kane from ‘kuwn’ (3559); properly, set upright; hence (figuratively as adjective) just; but usually (as adverb or conjunction) rightly or so (in various applications to manner, time and relation; often with other particles):–+ after that (this, -ward, -wards), as … as, + (for-)asmuch as yet, + be (for which) cause, + following, howbeit, in (the) like (manner, -wise), X the more, right, (even) so, state, straightway, such (thing), surely, + there (where)-fore, this, thus, true, well, X you.
3652 ken kane (Aramaic) corresponding to ‘ken’ (3651); so:–thus.
3653 ken kane the same as ‘ken’ (3651), used as a noun; a stand, i.e. pedestal or station:–base, estate, foot, office, place, well.
3654 ken kane from ‘kanan’ (3661) in the sense of fastening; a gnat (from infixing its sting; used only in plural (and irreg. in Exod. 8:17,18; Heb. 13:14)):–lice, X manner.

3559 kuwn koon a primitive root; properly, to be erect (i.e. stand perpendicular); hence (causatively) to set up, in a great variety of applications, whether literal (establish, fix, prepare, apply), or figurative (appoint, render sure, proper or prosperous):–certain(-ty), confirm, direct, faithfulness, fashion, fasten, firm, be fitted, be fixed, frame, be meet, ordain, order, perfect, (make) preparation, prepare (self), provide, make provision, (be, make) ready, right, set (aright, fast, forth), be stable, (e-)stablish, stand, tarry, X very deed.

*when =
834 ‘aher ash-er’ a primitive relative pronoun (of every gender and number); who, which, what, that; also (as an adverb and a conjunction) when, where, how, because, in order that, etc.:–X after, X alike, as (soon as), because, X every, for, + forasmuch, + from whence, + how(-soever), X if, (so) that ((thing) which, wherein), X though, + until, + whatsoever, when, where (+ -as, -in, -of, -on, -soever, -with), which, whilst, + whither(- soever), who(-m, -soever, -se). As it is indeclinable, it is often accompanied by the personal pronoun expletively, used to show the connection.

Ti and Do

One has a most difficult task deciphering much of the historic record if they don’t have some overview that is not otherwise easily apparant beyond what is largely thought of in symbolic aka religious aka spiritual ways today. I spent 19 years with two extraordinary teachers, whom I won’t go into detail about now, except that the names they took and which hold for present to future communications, until they say otherwise by coming in new human vehicles were/are Ti and Do. They are not in human vehicles(bodys) at this time. There is a mountain of extraordinary information about these two, of which only a periphery became published across the globe in 1975-6 and again starting in 1988 that lasted to a finalli in March of 1997 when the entire group volunarily and happily (as some chose to express individually on video tape) layed down the phycial bodies they prepared and then took (human bodies with implanted souls that were seekers and wanted a relationship with their Heavenly Father, in whatever terms they thought about it), remaining in the national and international headlines for at least two weeks called the Heaven’s Gate “suicide” Cult.

They didn’t generally talk in religio-spiritual terminology. They called it more generic terminology. One of the biggest phrases they instigated was:

The Evolutionary Level Above Human, shortened to Level Above Human shortened to Next Level = The Kingdom of God/Heaven, Physical Kingdom in the literal Heavens (not terrestrial) (Jesus said he had “no place to lay his head”) = Elohiym. This Next Level is many membered. Though they don’t use these titles, there is a chief of chiefs but for all intents and purposes we don’t know if we ever meet or work with or are seen directly by a chief but we do have opportunity to be with what Do called the Admiral of this Earth garden project, but according to Revelations 12 is the woman who has 12 stars in her crown which would be like saying she is the Admiral over at least 12 Earth equivilents with equivilent life forms.

Through what I gathered from Ti and Do, (though it wasn’t by any means typical Bible teaching) I feel I was given certain insights (because they did not teach out of the bible nor cover in detail any parts of the Old Testement and comparably few verses from the New Testement as they had what would be considered a very obscure or strange somewhat secular-scientific looking approach to the historic record). Acutally I may not have any real insights as I do feel and have evidence that there are some on Their crew operating from spacecrafts near and/or far, according to their vast technological reach that help me observe things that otherwise I would probably overlook. It’s always a combonation of the human vehicle (me) being able to receive and understand the voice/character/mind of, the invisibles they give their allegience/service attention/love to, whether it’s among human and equivilent evolutionary level of physcial and spirit beings, other physical and Spirit/Soul beings (related to Luciferian Space (Alien) “fallen angels”(dropout students who were apprentising holding domestic level tasks on Earth from previous Earth and potential near Earth civilizations) and/or Luciferian Space ET/Aliens from any Earth Equivilent in the near vicinity of Earth, as we can see in some constellation star systems, or Members of The Evolutionary Level Above Human in whatever physical density they choose to maintain (though on their spacecrafts that are within certain planets they operate in assigned physical bodies, though some can take them off and put one in a closet while they put on another for a specific task, the way humans put on a space suit or diving suit.,

Together with the exploring of all things spiritual in my youth, to living in a commune with Ti and Do and their small group of students for 19 years and then having another 18 years, the last 10 spent reinterpreting parts of that record, as one can see that can be an exhausting chore due to the fact that virtually every word can require examination. But because of that road, I have arrived at the following understanding. I’m not claiming this as an absolute knowledge but I know it’s among the closest. (I actually believe it is the closest because of who I know these two teachers to be, which by the way they are no longer in human vehicles so there is no going after them, which Jesus told us we won’t have to do upon Their return because they would come to US with their public announcement (trumphet) having new information (prophecy), the bold truth about who they are and where they have come from, why they are here and when they will leave). While I was with Ti and Do, though I didn’t know it, I was largely in the dark about much of what they gave out. I recall it all when there is reason to remember, which I ask for and believe I get help with.

But to be clear, though I am special for having been given this information and have somehow still maintained an escalating belief and service to them – service now is dissemination of the information and accepting the ramifications. There will not be any new instructions of service so no one has to worry about believing this info and then finding out that someone is going to claim they are Do returned in a new vehicle and that it’s time to lay down our lives again. I’m not saying that laying down one’s life is a wrong thing to do. It’s always a choice. But what I am saying and what Do said to me in a dream when I asked if I should prepare my vehicle to be willing to lay down it’s life as they did, He said very clearly, “give your life”, thus it was up to me when, where and how and to what degree I would need to give my life. However, should we give our allegience to Ti and Do now, which can be done by anyone at anytime and as often as they wish, but should be something totally private but should include addressing them by the names they gave us, to keep human spirits and dead souls and/or space aliens from trying to intercept our communications. Thus you are now “special” as well, just to have received the opportunity as there is no follow up or group to belong to, creed to follow, though of course one would want to get well versed in all things Ti and Do left behind for us to disseminate to others which can still be found on heavensgatetoo.com and various former students and new believers sites/channels who have posted video’s and meeting tapes and all their writings with mine including my experiences with them and what’s taken afterwards since and the various interpretations of how they fulfilled all the Jesus prophecies.

What I have learned from this examination is that there are layers of interpretation to most things, but if they originated from the body of individuals who actually designed, developed and maintain planets like Earth all throughout the universe for their purposes, then they always have a LITERAL application though appropriate for each human according to how much they want to know and participate in their own schooling with each students actual capasity. And when I say, capasity, what’s important to the Next Level is your capacity to change, to get rid of ALL you’ve gotten yourself into, positive or negative, to make application to their crew membership.

When the Next Level start a civilization garden soul growing experiment on a planet as they did at the stage of growing a human vehicle named in our record “man” or “human”, Hebrew adam, when this newly genetically developed creature is given what was termed the “breath of life” that made them a living SOUL, it simply meant that they were given what amounts to what humans and some space aliens do to animal/humans respectively (though the space aliens are also human or human equivilent) in tagging one or imbedding a computer chip with firmware equivilent programs the user can choose to activate and develop use of. With this “chip” comes a mechanism to gather data as well, thus a database management system, on par to the way the human brain stores information. The main difference is what the “programs” involve, how to use them and the data they interface with. The human brain computer that includes all the tiny computer systems that makeup the human gnome is somewhat limited to human level programs and data. Those programs are innate but then upon human adulthood kick in to pursuits of career and other mental/physical quests.
The added “Soul body” computer chip holds only data that has a slightly “hotter/brighter” electromagnetic signature, though this has little interface/application to human endeavours and in fact can tend to render pursuit of norms of human behaviour and ways unfullfilling and even boring, though that doesn’t stop the holder from exploring them. It’s like a chip set with a new frequency range and reach. Thus those humans who receive it do have a “special” opportunity as receiving such increases their sense of what’s possible and enables a recognition of those who installed that chip set, when Next Level personal are on task in what’s been termed an incarnation into a human vehicle to lead what is much like Star Trek’s “away teams” – a mission. Their mission is to provide the data they have added to their Soul database as appropriate to the grade in school of the humans they are assigned to interface with. That data will contain Their behaviors and ways. For those who embrace it and put into practice the rules/commandments/regulations provided, they will be building their own soul body so that at some future time, after several periods of time of interface soul to body, they will be brought by incarnate Members from the Next Level’s kingdom, also termed “Fathers” or more generically at this time, “Older Members” to a graduate level experience when they would graduate their mammalian human nature to become like a butterfly coming from the catepillar world. A human vehicle is abolutely needed, as the catapillar needs a cocoon to become birthed a butterfly.

But when the Next Level in a sense implant this pocket/container (new wineskin, Jesus used as an analogy) in/onto a human being they designed to be receptive to one, though also designed to choose to reject and even rebell from, they are creating one of their offspring thus termed a “son”. However just becoming a son does not guarantee one will become an adult and that is the object of the planting but they don’t want robots to join their ranks of their crews on their spacecrafts and labs. They don’t need sons nor help though it’s their pleasure and the way they received their evolution above the human condition so they love offerring the same opportunity to those born on the planets they prepare to function as gardens.

The growth process simplified in view consists of three trimesters. The Moses experience would be an example of the first, the the Jesus the second and the last being the graduation/harvest period which is in progress as we speak and will be finished by the time we are all physically dead.

When any one of these planted soul seeds succeeds in their trimester dvelopment, when their flesh body dies, that implanted soul body is “saved” from a merger into the earth’s “spirit world” and instead kept in a temporary area called Abraham’s Bosum and later by Jesus, Paradise, which is an invisible and quite large type of spacecraft manned by invisible but still physical beings, though of far less density than humans.

When the next trimester is planned, perhaps 1000 or 2000 or so years later, though there are prepatory representatives of the Next Level sent to earth in between, those “saved” souls are brought back to begin a new interface with a human vehicle that was descended from that same genetic stock, so it will have a match with the incoming soul body. This is where the idea of reincarnation came from. Those humans that never received this soul body, still have their own spirit body that consists of all they thougth and did from birth of the body that includes the subconscious genetic carry over from the biology of the parents gnome, that also exits at death but doesn’t go anywhere and since it is like a program that still wants to perform it automatically is drawn living humans, generally those whom it had bonded with most, to play it’s programs through and that can work to the benefit or detriment of the human unknowing “host”. Each human is born with it’s own “spirit” mental and physical inclinations and is in development which is why some of the records say, man is only given one life to live.

However, for those that choose to bond with the incarnate representative from the Eloyhim, which extends for a time after they exit with or without their physical body, by seeking to embrace all that they said and did while here, which some will seek to learn from those who did have a face to face relationship, at their physical death, their Soul that enabled them to bond in the first place, will again be “saved” and brought back with the souls that were there for their second trimester.
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*** Additional notes pertaining to what Ti and Do taught (They didn’t teach out of the Bible though they said they were from the same Family to bring updates and to fulfill prophecy and said they were the Revelations Chapter 11 Two Witnesses and the Revelations Chapter 12 Woman, as the Father giving soul(spiritual) birth to the Son who’s body was named Jesus 2000 years or so ago but of late as of these Two his name became Do as in the scale do re me fa so la ti, while the woman took the name ti from the same scale satisfying a few prophecies of having new names upon return and their names being related to a new song students would want to learn to sing as a form of internal request for service plus personal growth in the ways they teach (same as what Jesus and Moses taught appropriate to those time periods and stages in a three trimester spirit birth program) non-religious or spiritual “prayer”, not that it would have a tonal melody or rythum to it. However, they did give their students an actual song to sing that they picked the lyrics to and chose the melody from Bach’s Jesus Meine Freund (Jesus my friend).The words went like this: Help me have no human ways, no thoughts of self, no faults to see, only the ways of space. Now I know my heart is fast, in my Father’s path at last, only the ways of space, only the ways of space. ***

****** Genesis Chapter 6 *****************
Gen 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
Gen 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Gen 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
Gen 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
Gen 6:6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
Gen 6:7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
Gen 6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.
Gen 6:9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.
Gen 6:10 And Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
Gen 6:11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.
violence = 2554
chamac
khaw-mas’
a primitive root; to be violent; by implication, to maltreat:–make bare, shake off, violate, do violence, take away violently, wrong, imagine wrongfully.

2555
chamac
khaw-mawce’
from ‘chamac’ (2554); violence; by implication, wrong; by meton. unjust gain:–cruel(-ty), damage, false, injustice, X oppressor, unrighteous, violence (against, done), violent (dealing), wrong.

Gen 6:12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.
earth = 776
‘erets
eh’-rets
from an unused root probably meaning to be firm; the earth (at large, or partitively a land):–X common, country, earth, field, ground, land, X natins, way, + wilderness, world.

corrupt = 7843
shachath
shaw-khath’
a primitive root; to decay, i.e. (causatively) ruin (literally or figuratively):–batter, cast off, corrupt(-er, thing), destroy(-er, -uction), lose, mar, perish, spill, spoiler, X utterly, waste(-r).

Gen 6:13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.
Gen 6:14 Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch.
Gen 6:15 And this is the fashion which thou shalt make it of: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits.
Gen 6:16 A window shalt thou make to the ark, and in a cubit shalt thou finish it above; and the door of the ark shalt thou set in the side thereof; with lower, second, and third stories shalt thou make it.
Gen 6:17 And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.
Gen 6:18 But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons’ wives with thee.
Gen 6:19 And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.
Gen 6:20 Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive.
Gen 6:21 And take thou unto thee of all food that is eaten, and thou shalt gather it to thee; and it shall be for food for thee, and for them.
Gen 6:22 Thus did Noah; according to all that God commanded him, so did he.

2 Responses to “Genesis 6 Nephilim evidence they were fallen angels and talk of Ti and Do”

  1. jpgilyard Says:

    Sawyer, are you familiar with the book of Enoch, quoted by Jude, brother of the Lord? it is not in most cannons, and i have serious doubt about some portions of the books, but believe that some of it is genuine-Jon,

    • sawyer Says:

      Yes I have read it several times and find it interesting and seems for the most part to have consistancy with other writings of the time. I suspect Moses had access to it and may be where he got some of his understandings. However, like all the materials in the records, canon or not, they are all subject to both translation and context issues and today there isn’t much practical application of what Enoch wrote. I found it interesting when while still in the classroom with Do, we studied the book “essene Christian faith” that had at it’s roots the dead sea scroll transcipts that indicated that essenes were more Enoch orientated than Moses. However, I dont’ see this as a reason to toss one out for the other. It sounded to me like typcial rivalries among various membership in various groups. If anything stands out in any materials you want to toss around ideas about, I’m always game.

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