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Q & A by Sawyer on Lucifer & Space Aliens

February 13, 2010

1. Is Lucifer and all angels human – humanoid or alien looking?

As far as I know lucifer once had a human body. Now the term angel is really a task assignment – messenger and there could be a variety of different types of body shapes that could function in that capasity. Ti and Do said in 1975 that members of the next level could enter a department of say transportation to where they would be a pilot and the vehicle they would use to be the pilot of would be a living creature that would not necessarily be humanoid where as in general for at least first time young members in the Next Level, they are issued humanoid vehicles that even still have a capasity to speak if they need to (where in their environment they are telepathic, but say they do a task on Earth while based somewhere on or in the Earth with their physical body, then they would need to have a body that would both be able to survive in the EArth’s dense decaying type atmospheric conditions AND be one that has a degree of normal interfacing with the humans they may have a task to deliever info to. What we call space aliens are simply human equivilents and thus are humanoid in appearance though they will have variances and the Next Level can employ certain ones, though they may or may not know who is employing them. That’s why it was said in the record books that God sent an evil spirit to someone which could be a way the Kingdom of God chooses to take care of a situation that is detrimental to the souls and vehicles they participate in the evolution of.

2. Do aliens fear humans because of their potential to be greater than them?

I don’t think so but there may be some truth to that though I’d guess it would be largely subconscious on their part, stemming from their own home planets history. However, Alex Collier claiming to be a contactee for Andromedans said that the Andromedan’s looked upon humans as royalty. He didn’t say why but I have a pretty good idea. The only thing that can make a human royal is if that human vehicle was given a soul implant by the Next Level. That type of natural but largly undetectible frequency structured “container” IS a set of programs that enable Next Level interface and monitoring by the Next Level but also other advantages that I’m not sure about, except to know that there are some. Do said that the war in the heaven’s was largly a war for those souls. They seed to have humans with souls make allegience to them and they use tricks and what humans used to call magic or supernatural looking things to do that. The blinding light that converted Paul of Tarsus for instance. The Next Level doesn’t do that as they don’t want someone wowed into service, though in early stages of both soul and vehicluar development the Next Level will do some wowing things, but they do it in a way that it still leave’s one wondering if that wasn’t just a freak storm or fireball, for instance, like parting of the sea. At least some of the space aliens know they have a limited time in which they can have access to souls, again from their own history either with this planet as passed on to them by their ancestors from previous civilizations on earth or from their own home planet’s history, if it was not Earth. They do fear human technology that can shoot their spacecraft down. They are not etheric, though they also have a spirit body that seperates from it’s vehicle when it dies but then most often hangs around it’s genetic family origin.

3. Are humans a special species that other aliens acknowledge that God created specifically?

Well, this was partially addressed in 2, so yes in that SOME humans are given souls everytime a member from the Kingdom of God physically incarnates. Being gifted with a soul makes that human a “son of god” or child of light, as the same hebrew word can mean son or child. However that son still always has a choice to not “honor their parents”, listen to their advise, follow in their footsteps, recognize the love they have for them and inherit their parents estate, so to speak and can even choose to go against their parents, which in this latter case sends them on a path of becoming a “child of darkness” because for them to turn against means they have succumb to the lower forces on the planet that tempt and lure us, though are allowed to exist to help us learn and come to recognize the true value of our parents and all they can offer us, by looking to them.

The genetic species we call human are otherwise mortals and are simply “plants” until the next level implants them with a piece of their MIND – “breathed into the nostrils the breath of life”.

Now the space alien luciferian types are comprised of souls that dropped out of a student relationship and of course the offpring that resulted carried over for thousands of years, even many, many ion’s and today seem to have little trace of that original soul as if you don’t use it, you lose it. Do said a soul was a “set of programs” that provided basic understandings and knowledge of the reality of beings that are above human, who created us and the Earth with the purpose of an option to even become an apprentise in their environments that includes the absense of temporary life. To some degree that set of programs is passed on to future offspring, thus many have those understandings as faith embedded in their genetic structure.

Now each time the Next Level designs and develops a garden like Earth, it’s to them an experiment thus each creature is special to that development, to include the souls. Do did say tha the Luciferian space aliens are looking to win over souls to their camp at this time and this is done when we don’t ever look to the One True Kingdom of God, instead thinking either that there is no one greater than human to look to, or thinking space aliens are our gods and even creators or that we are our own gods because of thinking we are all a part of an infinite presumed consciousness.

There may be some exceptions but most of those we talk about as Lucifieran Space Aliens don’t believe in a many membered Kingdom of God that is above them in an evolutionary leap kind of way. They simply think there are other space alien groups before them, but may have lost any real sense of anything being a full evolutionary kingdom level above human.

Q&A to Sawyer Missing Link between human and level above human biological entities

February 13, 2010

Question to Sawyer re: Ti and Do’s Heaven’s Gate and how the Level Above Human designed human beings to jump the chasm between biological kingdom levels.

Question:

You mentioned that the earth realm is below that of the others and so therefore our consciouness is not aware of these other beings. If that’s the case, then how can we, even with their influence ever be able to link and become one mind-set with them? It’s as you said about humans domesticating (wild) animals, though never quite being able to acheive that intellectual bond and unity which would make it possible for them to become like us, fully understanding what it means to be human. If you say that fundamental interspecies compatability is impossible, then it stands to reason that the beings above can never quite ‘train’ us to reach and understand what it means to be like them. So conclusion would be, based on what you said, that we aren’t biologically capable of ever acheiving that higher level, don’t you think? So we’re effectively incapable of ever reaching that higher level you think these beings dwell in.

Sawyer’s response:

Understood, and it would be impossible, but as they are the creators of the entire system they built in a mechanism to complete the “missing link” of true interface with them.

They actually implant human vehicles of their choice, according to the human’s expressed desire to grow, change and give, related in some way to that higher level by whatever their terminology. Only the humans from a genetic strain that had some physical relationship with a previous member incarnate will have that sense of their being more and different than the normal things to pursue. The implant (which space aliens and humans do as well in their own ways that are not natural and free willful on the part of the recipient) can only be described as a chip that contains a set of programs and is contained. It’s an object that is literally a “seed” and what has been termed a “soul”. It’s the “breath of life” breathed into the first man’s nostrils (not the first human, but the humans they had genetically planned and instigated to start the latest experiment. (It’s an experiment because it doesn’t have a static development, management and outcome). Any human that is not given this implant can never make the interface, though they can ask to have that relationship at any time, so it’s not a judgement against anyone and no humans can know for sure who does or who does not have one of these soul implants.

And this is all fully Jesus compatible.

But that is far from all there is to it. Once seeded then that vehicle is a “child” of that Next Level but the object is for that child to choose to gradually become an adult. An adult does have the interface because that seed actually grows as a part of their body into full maturity and is then literally born when the vehicle dies providing it had reached a viable development. Being viable has to do with having the minimum “force of mind/will” to actually “run” a new issue physical body provided by the Level Above Human members. This new body is not equipt with mammalian organ systems. A first issue body will not have a reproductive system as they don’t reproduce as mammals do. They reproduce by becoming parents to future seeds planted on the human cocoon environment. This Next Level actually grows these new “incorruptible” bodies on a vine and the body does not need to eat (though transitionally may take a pill of some sort) but operates mostly on photosynthesis with the power source being that new soul body. If that soul body is not viable they won’t be able to literlly run this new vehicle and will have no usefullness or service to the Next Level, so the Next level is very selective. We build our “force” by drawing new mind(info) from an existing member of the next level which comes with a step wise process that results in having broken all ties on the human kingdom and sacrificed all pleasures, except for those few nearly harmless pleasures that the older member teacher deems appropriate. This has been called Overcoming or “washing of robes” but is actually a metamorphic process that requires a cocoon environment away from all previous human behaviours that form the normal root system of whatever human has engaged the process. It’s a human crysalis – a process of “christ-ening” – a period of time of accellerated change but MUST be orchestrated directly and face to face by a genuine Next Level midwife, as it encompasses gradually giving over even one’s free will to that “parent”, in Greek pater or “Father”(seed giver) but actually is simply an Older Member in that Next Level that at some point far before also had their equivilent birth into full membership in the Next Level from a human or human equivilent biological and spiritual(of mind/spirit/soul). The opposition to this would have humans fear they would then become robots, not realizing that as a human they ARE actually very robotic as what they largely think of as themselves is a composite of their genes and their environment, which in addtion to parents, family and friends and society is greatly affected by discarnates and/or even certain of what we would call space aliens.

But that “soul seed implanted set of programs” IS the equivilent of a human buying a puppy and taking care of it as one of their own family. But that puppy still has the choice to accept their masters training and disciplines and requirements to be in the house or not. If it refuses to change and adapt the humans conditions, the human either decides to tolerate the animal in their midst or have someone professionally try to train the animal or they give it away.

So the next level then executes the program to put that new soul to the test – to challenge offer teaching/training to, to help them grow yet closer to them, but particularly their immediate Older Member assigned to fulfill the role of being their creator/midwifing “spirit birth” parents. This is the same kind of thing that any gardener does. The Next Level provides fertilizer to those they are seeking to harvest. If they give the planet too much, it could burn that plant and stunt or hault it’s healthiest growth. The Luciferians and the human environment and “norms” provide the fertilizer as those with soul implants desire to press past the norms, though can easily get caught up in over acheiving in a human way and entrenching themselves to the world.

Once viable they can use physical bodies as humans use different suits for different purposes but these next level “celestial” bodies generally can not be in a human envioronment for very long as the Earth environment is very hostile and decaying to these now very senstive beings. They are incorruptible because even if they wanted to they don’t have the plumbing for reproducing and sensuality is one of the biggest forms of remaining in the status quo – not pressing to have more experiences, while willing to change life circumstances.

Jesus says he was here before thus reincarnated!

February 13, 2010

This evaluation of Jesus quotes reveals the potential for evidence that Jesus said he had come before and left to go back to the Father.

Joh 16:19 Now Jesus knew that they were desirous to ask him, and said unto them, Do ye enquire among yourselves of that I said, A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me?

Joh 16:20 Verily, verily, I say unto you, That ye shall weep and lament, but the world shall rejoice: and ye shall be sorrowful, but your sorrow shall be turned into joy.

Note: Verily was a way of saying “truthfully” so wasn’t simply an idiom or near useless term as “furthermore” would be.

Joh 16:21 A woman when she is in travail hath sorrow, because her hour is come: but as soon as she is delivered of the child, she remembereth no more the anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world.

Note: Here He has multiple reasons to use the woman giving birth analogy as it’s directly related to the “spirit birth” He was leading them towards, that they would not be ready for until he returned and that was going to happen in a little while, but then he told them a lot of other things were going to happen before he came back again for their potential harvest.

Joh 16:22 And ye now therefore have sorrow: but I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your joy no man taketh from you.

Joh 16:23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.

Joh 16:24 Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full.

Joh 16:25 These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father.

Joh 16:26 At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you:

Joh 16:27 For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.

Note here that Jesus is referring to His Father as “himself” -that’s a person right and a different person than himself, so there goes the all in one idea. But where that idea is accurate is in that all the members of the Kingdom of Heaven do work as one unit, whether it’s a team on Earth or in a laboratory inside a distant planetary body or in an invisiable spacecraft inside the atmosphere of Earth managing in “spirit” form all the discarnate human plants and souls (sons(children of God) in training and their assigned advasaries, aka satan and fallen angel souls that become like fertilizer for a soul to grow by warding off.

So Jesus refers here to God which is in Greek:

2316
 qeoV
theos
theh’-os
 of uncertain affinity; a deity, especially (with 3588) the supreme Divinity; figuratively, a magistrate; by Hebraism, very:–X exceeding, God, god(-ly, -ward).
3588
 o
ho
ho, including the feminine
 he hay, and the neuter to to in all their inflections; the definite article; the (sometimes to be supplied, at others omitted, in English idiom):–the, this, that, one, he, she, it, etc.
 
*** Thus THE ONLY Supreme divinity ***

Now the watered down translation in the bible program:
 
2316 theos {theh’-os}
 of uncertain affinity; a deity, especially (with 3588) the supreme Divinity; TDNT – 3:65,322; n m
 AV – God 1320, god 13, godly 3, God-ward + 4214 2, misc 5; 1343
 1) a god or goddess, a general name of deities or divinities 2) the Godhead, trinity 2a) God the Father, the first person in the trinity 2b) Christ, the second person of the trinity 2c) Holy Spirit, the third person in the trinity 3) spoken of the only and true God 3a) refers to the things of God 3b) his counsels, interests, things due to him 4) whatever can in any respect be likened unto God, or resemble him in any way 4a) God’s representative or viceregent 4a1) of magistrates and judges

It’s watered down because of all the trinity stuff. That needs to be explained if it’s going to be used but hardly anyone understands it so they can’t very well explain it so they just put words down, though that ends up confusing more plain thinkers that aren’t so mystified by everything.

And Jesus spoke of his “Father” (who he told us to pray/petition to while he was in heaven) as someone he worked for (worshipped) and prayed to “our father who art in heaven” but God is a (Greek Pneuma) Spririt/Mind/Soul, not someone in that context but referring to the entire Kingdom with the Chief of Chiefs as the top of of the pyramid.
 
Here is the pater define for Father:

3962 pater {pat-ayr’}
 apparently a root word; TDNT – 5:945,805; n m
 AV – Father 268, father 150; 419
 1) generator or male ancestor 1a) either the nearest ancestor: father of the corporeal nature, natural fathers, both parents 1b) a more remote ancestor, the founder of a family or tribe, progenitor of a people, forefather: so Abraham is called, Jacob and David 1b1) fathers i.e. ancestors, forefathers, founders of a nation 1c) one advanced in years, a senior 2) metaph. 2a) the originator and transmitter of anything 2a1) the authors of a family or society of persons animated by the same spirit as himself 2a2) one who has infused his own spirit into others, who actuates and governs their minds 2b) one who stands in a father’s place and looks after another in a paternal way 2c) a title of honour 2c1) teachers, as those to whom pupils trace back the knowledge and training they have received 2c2) the members of the Sanhedrin, whose prerogative it was by virtue of the wisdom and experience in which they excelled, to take charge of the interests of others 3) God is called the Father 3a) of the stars, the heavenly luminaries, because he is their creator, upholder, ruler 3b) of all rational and intelligent beings, whether angels or men, because he is their creator, preserver, guardian and protector 3b1) of spiritual beings and of all men 3c) of Christians, as those who through Christ have been exalted to a specially close and intimate relationship with God, and who no longer dread him as a stern judge of sinners, but revere him as their reconciled and loving Father 3d) the Father of Jesus Christ, as one whom God has united to himself in the closest bond of love and intimacy, made acquainted with his purposes, appointed to explain and carry out among men the plan of salvation, and made to share also in his own divine nature 3d1) by Jesus Christ himself 3d2) by the apostles

Note: Again, all this verbage to simply confuse what they don’t understand.

Joh 16:28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.

Note: As minor as it appears, a big key word here is “again”. Now, whether this was punctuated wrong or not it’s indicating either or both that he “came into the world before this time, but using the punctuation means he will leave the world “again”. Well when did he leave the world before then to go to as he said “go to the Father”? Elijah was said to have been witnessed by Elisha, his partner to have been taken up by a whirlwind of fire, one of the Buddha’s, Moses (who walked off into the desert and when he was looked for his remains were never found, perhaps being “taken” as well or Enoch who was said to have “walked with God” and was “taken” by God. Is it possible these personalities were all the same “son of God” working with the souls of the flock His Father gave him, as he also said.

Who else in the records evidenced the same teachings – those that show the most congruent indications – requireing leaving all behind to “deny yourself” – given your will over to your Father (who art in Heaven, the literal sky/upper atmosphere, sun, moon, star areas wherever their membership is spread out so to speak amoung “many dwelling places (mansions), perhaps large types of spacecrafts), take up your cross (be prepared to die – (sacrifice) for your belief, the only thing that makes common sense from “turn the other cheek”) and “follow me” which was both literal at the time he was in a physical incarnation and by following his ways as he was representing all the ways in which we must change our minds to receive Holy Mind/Spirit/Ghost’s mind).

Now some may argue that he was simply about to repeat himself so was making such a remark as if to say…’okay again, or furthermore, I leave the world, and go to the Father’ so could have been a blemish in the original fragment/manuscript as it’s a slightly different Greek word. But then this isn’t being written as narrative and from the other quotes there doesn’t seem to be many such meaningless idioms or such expressed, no sarcasm or slang noticed anywhere, thus pretty safe to say that was not what this use of “again” represents. By the way “again”, the greek word was:

(But before I continue…As I research and write this, I hadn’t seen the definition for “again” in the Greek word palin (below) but then noticed that it is suggesting this usage was as 3823 – through the idea of “oscillatory(vibratory) repetition” of all things. I haven’t the foggiest idea why they needed to say oscillatory here and when one looks at many of the 200+ places that word or a similar term is used within the new testement records, it’s simply used to express renewal or a return or to repeat something as expected.

But I guess the real question would be whether or not by “again” he was referring to his explanation or to the meaning of his explanation. As this was recounted from His attempting to teach his students, wouldn’t he know that repetition is necessary in teaching anything.

Here’s the Strongs Greek dictionary definition of the English word “again” as used in this scripture:

3825
 palin
palin
pal’-in
 probably from the same as palh – pale 3823 (through the idea of oscillatory repetition); (adverbially) anew, i.e. (of place) back, (of time) once more, or (conjunctionally) furthermore or on the other hand:–again.
 
When you refer to what this translator is saying is “probably” it’s root 3823 below:

3823
 palh
pale
pal’-ay
 from pallo (to vibrate; another form for 906); wrestling:–+ wrestle.
 
that has who knows what to do with “again” except that it’s taking about doing something repeatedly. Was taht word implying many repeats, which could explain it but then many repeats of what.

Joh 16:28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.

So what he is repeating is his “leaving the world AND going to the Father”, which was simply his tast to perhaps many, many times past.

Joh 16:29 His disciples said unto him, Lo, now speakest thou plainly, and speakest no proverb.
Joh 16:30 Now are we sure that thou knowest all things, and needest not that any man should ask thee: by this we believe that thou camest forth from God.
Joh 16:31 Jesus answered them, Do ye now believe?
Joh 16:32 Behold, the hour cometh, yea, is now come, that ye shall be scattered, every man to his own, and shall leave me alone: and yet I am not alone, because the Father is with me.
Joh 16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

note: He never said for a moment that there would ever be world peace thus everyone who is quoting jesus in any way and using that to suggest the mission of any would be disciple would be to help bring about world peace. The peace he was talking about is in knowing who we are connecting with and how simple that is intellectually to settle upon, thus relaxing any anxiety in our exposure to the myrid of false prophets and such as it becomes easier and easier to identify the fraudulent prophets – spiritual and/or religious and/or intellectual speakers and teachers.