Below a post on L.A. Marzulli’s(Richard) blog with post entitled “Disclosure: Roswell Gray?” linked at:
to which a comment thread began and:
john B said
May 8, 2011 at 7:49 am
Richard; The hanger of which you refer is hanger 18 (666).
I do not believe that there are literal Aliens (Grey’s) in Bio suits.
They are apparitions of spiritual entities seen by people with an occult frame of mind. people in such conditions apprehend them in a very literal sense in similarity to Marian apparitions.
to which I, Sawyer commented in return:
“You are mistaken on two fronts. What you are saying sounds to me kin to those that say there is no Lucifer and some say there is no creator kingdom or that the creator is just one person or that jesus didn’t exist, was just a story people made up to fool people into being sheeple. Well, some of that is all true actually and that’s a fact. The lucifer many are taught to think of doesn’t exist. The jesus many are taught to think about doesn’t exist. One big creator dude, well, according to Ti and Do, there is a person they called the Chief of Chiefs. The mistake with that, is that since we in our limited brains, about the same as the limits a dog has correctly perceiving what the human kingdom is really like, doesn’t compute a chief of chiefs and all this always was and always will be stuff. Do said, once we become members of the Level Above Human, what religious call the kingdom of God in the heaven’s we’d understand better what always was and always will came from. I suspect it’s simply referring to being relative to us with our tiny life span and history.
Oh, yes, many also say that there are no evil spirits nor spirits at all. And now you say that there are no aliens, just aparitions which is like saying humans don’t exist either because from all the many reports from various sources internationally there are human equivilent beings all over the vaster than vast universe that is filled with inhabitable planets and with a simple technology of finding and passing through a highway in the heaven’s, one created there by the one and only creator crew (as no aliens say or demonstrate an ability to create planets. Some say they orchestrated their seed on earth to produce hybrids with human eggs, etc. and some say they outlive planets which is really saying they see planetary cycles pass. A planetary cycle is however long the creator crew designs it to be but so far it appears on Earth, this last time, that is coming to a close as we speak, inch by inch, has been some near to 7000 our years, about 7 days to the creator crew who don’t have lifespans anymore because they had a real spirit birth into membership in the evolutionary level above human which is like saying a dog could someday graduate into the human kingdom with their mind/spirit/soul (if a dog had a soul which my sources say it doesn’t but I’m just using it for the analogy).
So why couldn’t the govn’t, or some govn’t or shadow or miltary shadow govn’th have actual alien vehicles/bodies, from all the crashs that have occurred. With fomaldihyde they can be preserved for many years, certainly from when most of the big crashes were reported to have occurred in the late 1940’s and 1950’s. Oh, but some think that’s a made up story too.
Now re: apparitions, in a sense you may be correct. Strange I would say that after my disortation of how you are mistaken. Ti and Do never spoke about how the aliens do certain things like abduct people from their homes for instance without being seen, etc. Some humans have reported in regression being lifted out of their car right through the roof.
I’d be willing to gamble that these are evidence of stories that were made up as the Luciferians get humans to do so, (make things up, unbeknown to them that it’s luciferians behind their thoughts in this regard) with the intention of pointing people away from thinking as space aliens as physical beings and to try to trick humans into thinking the space aliens are supernatural, can walk through walls and such.
So what I am getting now, as I seek the answer to this question of what is an apparition, it seems the space aliens are using apparitions to fool humans into thinking they are more powerful than they really are. It would be easy for some to get into someones house and feed them a drug and then from a spacecraft behind a cloud shoot a holographic image of themselves going through a wall so that the abductee thinks they are seeing either a supernatural being or a god or a spirit, all of which with the addition of the drugs makes it into a lsd like trip, a hallucination with a strong hypontic suggestion not to remember it and at times even the inclusion of a homing device they can use to track the humans they are interested in for their hybridization experiments.
And this is what was done in the Fatima and other “apparitions” to where multiple people and/or children see the same image. Very few people can see a discarnate (spirit) because their molecular vibratory rate is very slow and very wide, in terms of hertz – cycles per second. There is so much space between the particles,(like pixels) they appear invisible to our eyes that are not geared to ordinarily make sense out of such very low frequencies.
I believe Do thought the apparitions some see, blood coming from hands of a mary statue, etc as I just mentioned the Fatima sightings and others are all “tricks” intented to trick humans into thinking the Kingdom of God is a spiritual kingdom.
Now this is also trickly to understand as the Kingdom of God is a spiritual kingdom, it’s just not spiritual the way humans think it’s spiritual. It is not in the spirit world. The spirit world is restricted to the earth. It’s within the earth’s atmosphere and may extend a considerable distance away from the physical earth. The spirit world according to Do also contains doorways. In other words all spirits (dead humans) can not go into all areas. In fact few do any traveling as where they die remains to be their habitat as it’s where their root system is in their genetic family tree that they stay around as the closest thing to the life they had still exists and they seek to attach and repell all the same things they attached to and repelled against while living.
Now the Kingdom of God uses the different areas of the overall spirit world for their sorting purposes and these were spoken of in days of old by Enoch, etc. as “heavens” and they are heaven’s but that word has been bastardized to be the abode of God while it really related to what was up including the sky as well as the area we call outer space where the sun and moon and stars exist. So the 7 heaven’s (and other cultures have their own ways of describing these chambers or layers or levels).
I know various authors have written about some of this but I didnt’ get it from a book. I got it from Ti and Do intially, though they rarely spoke in much detail about this stuff), so I pieced what they did say with the records on earth (bible, etc.) that I’ve seen snippets on, and Ti and Do have given me certain insights, even waking me up to see spirits (dead humans) on a couple occasions, so it wouldn’t remain in a theorectical realm as much. (It’s always a bit theorectical as what I’m talkign about is not to be counted on 100%. Ti and Do used to say to us, their students that “this picture of reality works for now”. They would say this after presenting their student body with a new idea to consider and then days later might come back to the body and say, what they said before wasn’t 100% accurate but it worked for now. See, they weren’t trying to sound like all knowing masters as they knew they weren’t all knowing, as some would expect members from the Kingdom of God to be, another distortion. When they incarnate (soul only comes into the human environment to do an undercover task of taking over human vehicles that are asking the Kingdom of God for service or would not survive in early youth) they are then fed the data they need to do the task they were sent to do. Ti and Do often said, they dont’ know about this or that and said that there were others in the Next Level crew that they did know were doing things on the planet. However, they also said that they knew that no one else was doing their task of bringing all who want to grow up a notch in their evolution(don’t mistake the term to mean darwinist evolution as there’s much, much more to “evolution” of the physical and the mental(spiritual)than anything darwin considered) and very, very little is automatic or randommly evolves. That’s another idea the Luciferian space aliens try to trick humans into thinking, though it’s how they now think anyway as they rejected the Kingdom of God’s point of view, the limited one they had while they were working in a domestic capasity for the kingdom of God before they would have been allowed to graduate to a new physical body that is not human (nor space aliens nor reptilian, nor any animal resemblance, except for being humanoid and not just a blob of light.
Sorry I get so off subject but there is so much that is so easy to miss if I dont’ take the time to stretch it out some.
This reminds me of why the so called “occult” is a big no no for those that want to continue to be on the full membership prospect list of the Kingdom of God. It’s because it’s the nature of the tricksters and once a human experiences the tricks and even learns how to use some of them they attract space aliens and human discarnates (the space aliens that died and their spirit remained and was able to interface with humans to make them into their pawns, channelers, etc that those humans then become addicted to participating in sort of the way Paul of tarsus was shocked/tricked into service to Lucifer. He was not really to blame (though he certainly was responsible for all the believers in Jesus he had a hand in persecuting, dragging to prision or to be executed – STephen being a well documented instance).
Luciferians change things subtly, remember like a snake, slow and methodical, sly and tricky. Like take the term God. Jesus mainly spoke of his Father who art in heaven. (in this case in a near part of the sky/atmosphere in some type of spacecraft or cloaked form). The more accurate phrase that should have been used by translators in many translations should have been something along the lines of “Older member of the Kingdom of God”
Now when an Older Member is operating in the human’s environment they still operate from their own space within that 7 heaven spirit world. I don’t know if they consider their space one of those 7 heavens but according to the records it was named, Abrahams Bosum or Paradise, in Persian a “walled enclosure” where the dead were kept. So jesus was simply saying that thief on the cross that experssed belief would have his soul set aside or “saved” from a general bucket or area of the overall heaven being kept instead in the same heaven where Jesus knew he would be going until it was time to leave the Earth altogether, to “prepare a place for his new students who he anticipated would be ready to graduate upon his return, actually he and his father’s return, though named by notes in the 12 note (7 whole note) scale (see revelations “song”, Ti and Do, Father and Son). Ti and Do said that one of the ways they do things humorously is by giving humans patterns of numbers to stimulate their headbones.
Now, jumping around a great deal, it’s always easy to discard the baby with the bathwater on all this talk. For instance on the paranormal tricks and how luciferians subtly distort and in particular use of paul in doing so, as the study of the stars and the association of the stars, planets, etc with human behavioral patterns is NOT something the Kingdom of God considers to be a no no activity yet many christians will say astrology is a sin and anyone who talks about astrology is a new ager and all new age things are sinful when there are all sorts of references in the bible by Moses and jesus to the heavenly bodies. It’s like telling people that the mixing of herbs to help heal the body of certain ailments is witchcraft and demon possessed. However, even these are used by Luciferians to distract humans from the reality of the kingdom of God. Just like religions that make talking about the Kingdom of God, in the records into a profession to where the talker then even believes themselves to be special and holy or an instrument of God when they hardly say anythng God gave them to say, as the things the Kigndom of God gives humans to understand and say are always unpopular to the masses becuse the Kingdom of God doesn’t even promote human ways and that includes human families, except in the very beginning of the “taming of the human species” (I call it) evidenced in Moses work where the Kingdom of God outlined the requirements to be considered to be on one of Their crews down the road should we make it through the difficult overcoming birth canal to harvest/graduation time. Thus, “Honor your father and your mother” which I believe meant, to be honest with and to respect the experience of our parents which was the forerunner of the way we must behave towards Older Members of the Next Level if we want to be on their crew because if we can’t follow instructions then we are rebellious and frankly they don’t want crew members sitting next to them on a spacecraft that want to be creative in their approach to any task they are given. However, this does not mean new members in the level above human are to be slaves or robots. It’s that the student would want to be used as a slave instrument of the Older Member once they recognize all they are beign given by that Older Member to enable them to even have the opportunity to be on their crew, which entails seeing with one’s own eyes how great their perspective is, though they don’t beat us down with insisting we recognize Them.
To the contrary, the Older members will often, ask a crew member how they would handle such a circumstance and if the Older Member likes their response, may say, it’s a go. And at times the Older member will know that what the younger member thinks to do will not have the best result but will let they learn that for themselves if it’s not a crutial decision that would turn a viable souls eyes away from possible Kingdom of God future membership.
I know this is a tiny snapshot of the “way”(method) the “truth”(what
is real) and the life(only real future) because Do told us about how he in ways fought against Ti later recognizing that Ti would have made decisions that would have saved them a great deal of time and energy, if it were not for Do’s insistance to try his idea. After this happened over and over, Do finally began to see that Ti was seriously his elder, his Heavenly Father.
And by the way, Ti took a female vehicle called nettles. A nettles plant sends it’s seed out like an artillery canon, unlike most other plant forms seed distribution system. And this is the role of a Father – to be the seedgiver, a Pater (greek for father is a seedgiver) who Jesus said would come with him next time and who jesus said he’s speak plainly about upon his return and who also loves us and is actually giving birth to “her” son (Jesus now last took the vehicle he called Do), which is depicted in rev. chapter 12. Ti as Nettles was an amateur astrologer, one interpretation of “clothed with the sun with the moon under her feet wearing a crown of 12 stars”. I believe that means the moon is a Next Level base of operations – remember though they are powerful souls, they operate in the physical realms using physical bodies and physical travel methods in line with the physics they created, just like humans were designed in Their likeness with physical bodies with a spirit that is the MIND content of a soul pocket/container that is gifted to everyone what really desires to know the truth and seeks it out continuously.
Now some of the greys are seen as robots because of their having a different and even absent of human organ structure. Some of these may be some of the vehicles of members of the Next Level that gave them up to do this task, namely the Older Members, Ti and Do as they had Next Level issues of what they consider to be suits of clothes and speak of their vehicles to us that way, thus “washed their robes”
Remember Do took the vehilcle applewhite – a caucasion (white) vehicle he made pure by taking it over (it didn’t live pure before the soul from the Kingdom of God took it over), but just so you all know there has not been one tiny shred of evidence or even accusation from any of the dropouts of the Heaven’s gate/HIM group from 1975 to 1997 to suggest Do was not living as pure as one could imagine by Moses and jesus standards. No other so called “cult leader” comes even close to Do’s record. So that record plus the name of the vehicle he took and what he said and how there were two that were saying virutally the same things, though in use of their own minds (as they at times had differences that the students witnesses) and the fact that Ti took the rev 12 female vehicle and was father to Do her son in Rev 12 and the fact that they were shot down in the worlds eyes in october of 1975 on the world stage on all the news channels (the public commons) and were seen as thieves (though the two charges of use of a credit card and keeping a rental car too long were both dropped) and they left their families behind and spoke of the Kingdom of God in “plain” terms,no more parables and came together in line with “where two or more are gathered…” and the name applewhite was the white horse (a term used to describe a human vehicle that the soul is the rider of) who conquers and how they taught that every student must also overcome/conquer their human nature to reap the reward of being born of spirit/soul (which was another luciferian space alien twist to get people to think by saying they are born again they are as if it was simply a casual state of mind, akin to some thinking that when you die if you’ve lived some good life you automatically go to heaven -layers of illusion, though necessary illusion to seperate the viable seeded fruit from the dead in the last day (as we speak given the conditin of the world and the presense of the space aliens claiming to be gods but in words sayign they are simply brothers, sly, shrude crimnals who have got govn’t preparign to hide, escape and try to shoot down the coming of the “new jerusalem” spacecraft that Ti is approaching with and Do is sitting on the right hand of her power. They will have their appropriate Next Level vehicles.
If you havn’t thorougly analysed my 12 part video series you are afraid of the truth because you think you will lose something by doing so and yes you will lose something. No, it doesn’t matter if you look at my stuff but it does matter that you choose not to consider Ti and Do who can hear your serious questions though there will come a time when the jig is up and there will be no more internet or way to examine this info again and many will think it was an alien invasion and will hide from Do’s face, which has already happened. He’s hard for some to watch on the video’s because he is more real and thus bizarre to all who are not, who have come to thrive on not knowing which end is up in this confusing world that is the result of the weeds finally taking over the garden as Do wrote in the May 19th, 1993 USA Today International addition 1/3 of a page ad we (the group) paid for ($30,000.00) (we had about a dozen who worked jobs in the world and they had become programmers and such so made a good wage, to support the “cult” health filled and fun lifestyle while overcoming our humanness, that I flunked out of, though perhaps will be reinstated to.)
Oh, L.A. – Richard – thanks for allowing my comments to be expressed. I know you don’t agree with much I say or believe about Ti and Do. You are a special person to still allow this voice to be heard. As you probably can see by now I do not profit in any way shape or form from doing this. No one will publish me and few give my a podium and if they do it is short lived. I believe Do is smiling on you for allowing this conversation/expression.”