Physical or of Spirit – why not both, plus quantum physical?

I know you don’t want to hear from me, so don’t bother reading further but there has always been a “spirit world” and it is actually a parrallel existence, but there are also very tangible, physical beings that operate spacecrafts, check out billy meyer and Rael and many other accounts. Plus many have been seen on radar, even thousands over years but they do easily outmanuver human technologies but if you read autopsy reports are very physical and there is evidence that only someone who did an autopsy would know that Ti and Do told us about some of the space alien bodies, that they didn’t get from reading that included why some of the bodies lacked some of the organ systems we think of as human. Of course it all requires a certain amount of willingness to consider.

I dont’ know if you’ve noticed the huge increase in sightings, earthquakes, volcano erruptions, floods, hurricanes, financial collapse, wars, famine, disease, etc. which is not really of human instigation. Humans are all pawns of the discarnates and some of the space aliens who think they are their own gods.

If you want to see what is to come according to the dreams I had that Do gave me, check out the 4 video’s that sort of address it. Here’s their addresses. You can glue yourself to the past or get in on the upcoming future…your choice.

The return of Ti Do and graduate student Saints to finalize the judgement
Perhaps this return could be called the 7th coming – Adam, Enoch, Moses, Elijah, Jesus, Ti and Do, Do and Students(saints) (this last time for the civilization NOT undercover.
The return of Ti Do and graduate student Saints to finalize the judgement part 1:

The return of Ti Do and graduate student Saints to finalize the judgement part 2:

The return of Ti Do and graduate student Saints to finalize the judgement part 3

The return of Ti Do and graduate student Saints to finalize the judgement part 4

From: Jonathan Gray <info1@archaeologyanswers.com>
To: Sawyer <sawyerhg@yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 3:34 PM
Subject: Sawyer, who are these “aliens”?

ARCHAEOLOGY NEWSFLASH NO. 272

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WHO ARE THESE “ALIENS”?

For over 20 years, J. Allen Hynek was a scientific consultant
for the U.S. Air Force on Project Blue Book. His instructions
were to study UFO reports and determine whether an astronomical
object, such as the moon or the planet Venus, might explain
them.

Although a UFO skeptic at the start, Hynek became convinced
that a certain percentage of claimed sightings were worthy of
serious study.

In 1973, he founded the Center for UFO Studies (CUFOS) along
with the now noted UFO researcher Jacques Vallee.

There was, by this time, some collateral physical evidence that
seemed hard to explain. Hynek and Vallee considered that where
there was smoke there was fire.

In 1976, Hynek made this observation:

“The conclusion I’ve come to after all these years is that first
of all, the subject is much more complex than any of us imagined.

“It has paranormal aspects but certainly it has very real
physical aspects, too. The attitude we’re taking in the Center
for UFO Studies is that since we’re going to have scientists
involved, we will push the physical approach as hard and far as
we can – instrumentation, physical evidence, photographs, radar
records.

“If we are finally forced by the evidence itself to go
into the paranormal, then we will.” (J.Allen Hynek, Fate magazine)

EXTRATERRESTRIAL, OR PARALLEL REALITY?

The following year, he was quoted as expressing these views during
an interview:
“HYNEK: [The extraterrestrial] theory runs up against a very big
difficulty, namely, that we are seeing too many UFOs.
The Earth is only a spot of dust in the Universe. Why should it
be honoured with so many visits?

“INTERVIEWER: Then what is your hypothesis?

“HYNEK: I am more inclined to think in terms of something
metaterrestrial, a sort of parallel reality.”

When interviewed by Newsweek, Hynek repeated this theory: “UFOs,
may be psychic phenomena and the ‘aliens’ may not come from outer
space but from a ‘parallel reality.’”

As already noted, Hynek was formerly a skeptic. He was also the
author of numerous technical papers and textbooks on astrophysics.

Surrounding himself with credible and reliable scientists, he
investigated UFOs for nearly 40 years.

Hynek submitted that perhaps UFOs were part of a parallel reality,
slipping in and out of sequence with our own. This was a hypothesis
that obviously pained him as an empirical scientist.

Yet after 30 years of interviewing witnesses and investigating
sighting reports, radar contacts, and physical traces of saucer
landings no other hypothesis seemed to make sense to him.

The findings of numerous other researchers tend to support this
conclusion. Prominent UFO researcher John Welldon has noted that:

1. In all the millions of sightings, there has never been even
one radar detection of a UFO entering our atmosphere from
outer space.
2. “ETs” appear quite able to breathe in Earth’s atmosphere
without respiratory equipment.
3. Although fired upon many times by Russian, Canadian and
American pilots, never has a UFO been brought down.
4. Startlingly, no UFOs seen at different times ever look
exactly alike.

These observations would suggest that:
1. They are here – emanating, apparently, from our own planet
Earth.
2. Although visible, they may not be physical entities. They
appear to be not bound by the same material, physical laws.

MATERIALISE AND DEMATERIALISE

Here are some other characteristics noted by Hynek and Vallee:

“If UFOs are, indeed, somebody else’s ‘nuts and bolts hardware,’ then
we must still explain how such tangible hardware can change shape
before our eyes, vanish in a Cheshire cat manner (not even leaving
a grin), seemingly melt away in front of us, or apparently
‘materialize’ mysteriously before us without apparent detection by
persons nearby or in neighbouring towns.

“We must wonder too, where UFOs are ‘hiding’ when not manifesting
themselves to human eyes.” (www.alienresistance.org/ ce4premise.htm,
March 7, 2003)

Did you get that? Here are scientists admitting that UFOs apparently
materialize and dematerialize. That suggests another dimension.

MERGE INTO ONE OBJECT

But there’s more, much more. Hynek reveals that “There are quite a
few reported instances where two distinctly different UFOs hovering
in a clear sky will converge and eventually merge into one object.

“These are the types of psychic phenomena that are confronting us in
the UFO mystery.”

And John Keel, famous UFO researcher (author of many UFO books,
including The Mothman Prophecies 1975 – later made into a Hollywood
movie of that name) concurs:

“The UFOs do not seem to exist as tangible, manufactured objects.
They do not conform to the natural laws of our environment. They
seem to be nothing more than transmogrifications tailoring themselves
to our abilities to understand.

“The thousands of contacts with the entities indicate that they are
liars and put-on artists.” (John Keel. Operation Trojan Horse, 1996,
p. 266)

Researchers Ankerberg and Weldon also note:

“It seems evident that these phenomena are produced in the same
manner that other occult manipulations are produced. They involve
dramatic manipulations of matter and energy. Although they originate
from the spiritual world, they can produce very powerful, temporarily
physical manifestations at the material level….

“However the UFO is produced, it is frequently of small dimensions –
an area where an extremely large amount of energy is concentrated.”
(John Ankerberg and John Weldon, The Facts on UFOs and Other
Supernatural Phenomena. 1992, pp. 36-37)

In a nutshell, the weight of evidence suggests these were not physical,
but spiritual manifestations.

You ask, Then what about seeming traces of physical landings?

Considering the weight of evidence, even those could be explained as
manipulation of mass and energy.

Not only that, many UFOs demonstrate the ability to make 90 degree
turns at impossible speeds, as well as other maneuvers considered
impossible in the physical realm.

Could it be that one needs to wear “spiritual glasses” to understand
what is going on here… to understand who these entities are… and what
is motivating them?

THE REALITY OF ANOTHER DIMENSION

One question used to repeatedly nag at some of us:

Was it reasonable to assume that the objects we see with our eyes are
the only ones which exist?

Bearing in mind that all solid objects have a vibration frequency within
the range perceptible to the human eye. What if the vibration frequency
could be altered into vibrations outside the visible range? Some
scientists considered it possible.

You’ll understand, it is not easy to revise one’s thinking. But the
evidence was now pressing itself upon me. There had to be another
dimension, from which these non-human aliens were orchestrating their
control and manipulation.

One could no longer disbelieve their existence. Yet one must not let
oneself take an obsessive, unhealthy interest in them. Not to believe
meant not to be alert and on guard. But to be obsessed could lead to
their control of a person.

The evidence was pointing more and more in one direction – to the
possibility of a spirit “world” existing as another dimension all
around us…. not in some far-off place.

Many open-minded scientists were, in fact, concluding as much – that
the cosmos consists of frequencies or dimensions of life that share
the same space, just as radio and television frequencies do.

NOT SPACE TRAVELERS

That word psychic. Have you ever thought what it means? It means
spiritual (or spirit).

And it is true that encounters do have a spiritual nature – and
abduction experiences have a spiritual effect!

It turns out that these entities are not real physical ETs from other
worlds in space. No, they are emanating from another dimension!

And isn’t this precisely what so many UFO researchers from different
sides of the fence are now coming to realise… well-known researchers
like Vallee, Keel, Mack and others?

Psychiatrist John Mack of the prestigious Harvard University founded
the Program for Extraordinary Experience Research (PEER).

To explain abduction claims, Mack, initially a skeptic, looked hard
for any and every psychological root cause he could, including
childhood abuse.

From 1990, he began interviewing abductees. Over the next few years
he would interview more than 100 of them, practising, as he described
it, a thorough psychoanalysis of each one.

His conclusion? That these folk were solid citizens, of a sound mind.
And he became convinced that something real – and important – was
going on.

“These abduction accounts,” said he, “are so congruent among healthy
people, from all over the United States – people who are not in touch
with each other, who have nothing to gain and everything to lose by
telling their stories.” (“Are Aliens Already Here? Harvard’s
Controversial John Mack. Interview with John Mack,
<www.skepticfiles.org/misctext/mack.htm>, July 29, 2003)

His years of research led Mack to a conclusion similar to that of other
researchers – that the visitors are inter-dimensional… from another
reality or spiritual realm.

SO-CALLED “ALIENS CHANGE THEIR STORY

And these aliens? There ias something suspicious about the aliens’
story.

It was common in the early days of UFO contacts for aliens to claim
they were visiting from Venus. An example was Frank Strange’s 1959
encounter with a “Venusian” calling himself Val Thor.

That was before the space program sent out probes to that region.

But nowadays, most aliens are purporting to come from further away,
somewhere else in the galaxy where we cannot test their claims.

These intruders – these aliens – are changing the identity of their
home planet so we cannot check up on them.

Something fishy here?

And then, what about this…

THEIR COMMON OBSESSION
H
UFO researchers, such as Ankerberg and Weldon have been asking:
“How credible is it to think that literally thousands of
extraterrestrials would fly millions or billions of light-years
simply to teach New Age philosophy, deny Christianity, and support
the occult….? (The Facts on UFOs and Other Supernatural Phenomena,
1992, p. 13)

So that is the truth? Is it that they did not have to fly here?

Indications are that they were already here. They’ve been
emanating from our own planet Earth!

So who are they? Have you heard of the Lucifer Legion?

And if you would like to get further into this and soak up
a hundred or more clues that they have been dropping for us
(that’s no exaggeration), then here’s where to go right now:
http://www.beforeus.com/aliens.html

Take care.
Your friend
Jonathan Gray
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