detailed Jesus return prophecy analysis

“as lightning” doesn’t say it is lightening. Here is Strongs definition of the word used:
796 astraph astrape as-trap-ay’ from astraptw – astrapto 797; lightning; by analogy, glare:–lightning, bright shining.
797 astraptw astrapto as-trap’-to probably from asthr – aster 792; to flash as lightning:–lighten, shine.
792 asthr aster as-tare’ probably from the base of strwnnumi – stronnumi 4766; a star (as strown over the sky), literally or figuratively:–star.
and note this last reference:
4766 strwnnumi stronnumi strone’-noo-mee, stronnuo strone-noo’-o, prolongation from a still simpler stroo stro’-o, (used only as an alternate in certain tenses) (probably akin to stereoV – stereos 4731 through the idea of positing); to “strew,” i.e. spread (as a carpet or couch):–make bed, furnish, spread, strew.

Thus a more thorough all inclusive translation might be, LIKE a star that spreads it’s bright shining light…
Lk 17:24 “For as the lightning[star that spreads it’s bright shining light], that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day”
Naturally that “strewn” part and star like part is most interesting but there are other scriptures that add clues, for instance,
Mat 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Here whatever is coming that is LIKE or AS (same greek word) lightning is spoken of as coming out of the east. Well last time I checked lightning points downward and storms can come from any direction but things that are in the Heaven’s;
3772 ouranoV ouranos oo-ran-os’ perhaps from the same as oroV – oros 3735 (through the idea of elevation); the sky; by extension, heaven (as the abode of God); by implication, happiness, power, eternity; specially, the Gospel (Christianity):–air, heaven(-ly), sky
or we analyse the word’s associations it includes what is “celestial” and as a sidenote perhaps with a “tail” which may refer to the way a meteor or comet glides through the sky/heavens. Interestingly the translators wern’t very thorough as in the primary defintion of ouranos – the word indicated as Heaven in these and many other scriptures, they don’t even list “celestial” but do in ouranios the differencing being the “i” which from this we don’t know if the manuscript fragment clearly depicted accurately.
3769 oura oura oo-rah’ apparently a primary word; a tail:–tail.

3770 ouranioV ouranios oo-ran’-ee-os from ouranoV – ouranos 3772; celestial, i.e. belonging to or coming from the sky:–heavenly.
So a comet certainly MIGHT fit the bill but then there is your indication that everyone will see Jesus when he comes though you agree I guess that he will appear to us in human form, as a “son of man”
That idea comes from:
Rev 1:7 Behold he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
Now logic says that unless he lingers on in whatever way all will see him there has to be a point where some don’t see him. Unless they will see him in their mind also.
But if those who pierced him, assuming that refers to all who wanted him dead which were many, also see him, are they going to know it’s him when they didn’t even believe in who he was to begin with or they wouldn’t have wanted him dead.
And of course this is saying that somehow these same ones who “pierced him” will be witnessing his return and that couldn’t refer to when he rose from the dead because John wasn’t on the island of Pathmos writing all this until well after, (some say 30 years later) after Jesus ascended.
This gives a hint of how those who pieced him will SEE him:
Joh 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
Joh 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
So somehow the dead hear his voice which means those who pierced him must also recognize it even though they didn’t believe in him.
Apparantly the term resurrection here doesn’t mean the same thing as Jesus rising from his body’s dead state as how can you then resurrect to damnation. Damnation describes where all the non-believers end up. Thus resurrection which means to “stand up or raised to life again”
386 anastasiV anastasis an-as’-tas-is from anisthmi – anistemi 450; a standing up again, i.e. (literally) a resurrection from death (individual, genitive case or by implication, (its author)), or (figuratively) a (moral) recovery (of spiritual truth):–raised to life again, resurrection, rise from the dead, that should rise, rising again.
Which correlates with Jesus telling his disciples (not for everyone then) they must be “born [of flesh] again” which they were puzzeled over:
Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water [reference to flesh] and of the Spirit/Soul, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God which entails willing to overcome our fear of death of our ego (to become like little children) and of our physical body.
This is NOT reincarnation as taught by the Hindu’s and Buddhists. They have a very distorted view but the reality is that “standing up again” is the affect when a dead spirit takes over a living human vehicle which we humans don’t even know how much is happening. It’s not like the movies. We are time share computer systems. Standing up has multiple applicable meanings here. Those who pieced him and died will be looking to influnece living humans with their same thinking trying to convince the living humans (us) to give our allegience to “mammon” treasure of monitary and/or sense of self worth or give our allegience to the Kingdom of God. So this depiction is judgement day but we don’t know for how long that lasts.
But as to the lightning or comet seen…if it’s a baby they are hardly going to see this and if they do they won’t know what they are looking at so what’s the point to that. So not everyone is going to see unless one wants to play with ignoring a practical understanding.
Even so here is another clue:
Matthew 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
In this depiction first there is a SIGN, a token and the sign is in the sky. Well what is the “sign of the Son of Man” – a cloud, a star, a comet, a whirlwind of fire, a cloud of light, a column of cloud, a wheel within a wheel are from the Old and New Testement. I know it will not be a religious symbol though that could easily be sold to people. We have the star that was the sign of Jesus birth so I’d put stock on it looking to us as a star, but then perhaps as depicted in the other scriptures, as lightning shines east to west, thus something that moves faster than a star. After all how could the wise men who were considered to be astrologer/astronomers (same thing then – anyone who studied the stars and believed they held function as portent of meaning for humans). Anyone who studies comets will see with certain comets there is a great deal of consideration of what they bring. Comets are thought to have brought minerals to Earth, the reason certain minerals, like nickel are found in abundance in craters thought to have been created by meteors and/or comets. The dinosaurs are thought to have been rendered extinct due to a huge destruction of the planet that came from objects falling from the sky and the Book of Revelations depicts such to repeat itself.
And no where is there any evidence that it can’t be seen from far off. But the fact is that for many of the new comets they come out of nowhere. Hale Bopp was one of these and though it was not widely reported a Japanese astronomical society actually filmed the “companion” object (which is available) following along with Hale Bopp and it did not have the oblong star signature due to the time lapse photography used so it clearly was not a star in the background. It was also so close that even with binoculars a number of amateur astronomers saw and tracked and documented the comet and it’s companion object.
There was additional film taken in the U.S. but then the witness of it who described it, disappeared and the photo he was referring to showed up without the companion object after it was sent to an Hawaii observatory. The the Hale Bopp went behind the sun so out of Earth’s view and months later showed up again before it’s closest pass to Earth on March 21st, 22nd and 23rd and there was no “companion” to be seen but it clearly had TWO tails that could be seen easily even with binoculars and was widely photographed and astronomers had never seen that before. Of course to cover their tracks and not appear dumbfounded they said, it must have a double nucleus which was easily sold to the people.
Despite what the media focused on, the Heaven’s Gate group that at that time was the one called Do and his 38 students had been watching the alleged comet when it was way beyond the orbit of pluto as reported in which it demonstrated unusual behavior, slowing down and changing course. They had been looking for their departure since 1975 but didn’t know how that would happen so became ardent observers of all things on the planet and in the near and distant heavens.
Note that in Mat 24:30 “…and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn” is the second part of a three part prophecy in this verse. As is often the case, some things in prophecy is showing things yet to occur with some detail and then more detail as they take place. The 7 angles with trumphets vs the same 7 angles with vials that apply what the trumphets sounded.
Now we can’t assume this is all in an exact order as we can see the same kind of things said in slightly different ways in Luke and Mark and Revelations. We also can’t assume there aren’t phases to this “second coming” as is clearly depicted in Revelations. Here we see the depiction of one like the Son of Man on a cloud.
Rev 14:14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.
He has as crown that he received from the Revelations chapter 12 woman who has 12 crowns, each of which is a seperate star system that I presume has any number of Soul Gardens She Lorded over. She births him because he overcame the world, aka conquered by not trying to save His physical life as Jesus often says is part of the overcoming formula and provided parenting (demonstration of the overcoming process) for the liter of saints (those souls given to him by the Father last time he was physically born of women (son of man) who are being born of spirit/soul (greek pneuma is either english word) as depicted in Rev. 6 as the White Horse and Rider but was mistranslated as a Bow in his Hand, as in a bow and arrow when it was clearly his children he was bearing.
Rev 6:2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
5115 toxon toxon tox’-on from the base of tiktw – tikto 5088; a bow (apparently as the simplest fabric):–bow.
5088 tiktw tikto tik’-to a strengthened form of a primary teko tek’-o (which is used only as alternate in certain tenses); to produce (from seed, as a mother, a plant, the earth, etc.), literally or figuratively:–bear, be born, bring forth, be delivered, be in travail.
To produce from seed as a mother, to bear, be born, bring forth, the fabric part having to do with his teaching his children to wash their robes, a requirement of the overcoming process that is making one’s eye single and is aka “giving one’s all to the Lord thy God” which can only be accomplished when that individual is “born of woman” as a “son of man” to demonstrate (the Way) the self sacrifice of all our human passions, but transferring them to the establishment of a bond/graft to the Lord’s family tree (“no one comes to the Father except through me” as opposed to holding onto one’s human family tree. Jesus was not actually a human family man as well depicted in the gospels by Jesus:
Mat 12:46 While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.
Mat 12:47 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.
Mat 12:48 But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
Mat 12:49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
Mat 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
His disciples left their families to be with him.
Matthew 19:29 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name’s sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.
Luk 12:51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
Luk 12:52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.
Luk 12:53 The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Luk 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate/detest not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
I know some translations say in place of hate, love less, but there is no evidence of that and the greek word used “miseo” is used many times and has nothing to do with “loving” as we are seeking when He is physically with us to give all our love to the Lord, thus will be seen by everyone that doesn’t believe as duped by a cult leader as Jesus clearly was in His day. However, by hate does not mean you don’t honor the family you must leave behind when the representative is physically present, which He is not now. The biggest honor you can sho them is actually to give yourself to the Lord as completely as you can. And by Hate is also not meant we hate them personally. What we hate/detest is their desire to pull us away from what we feel we must give our all to. They can’t be blamed for feeling that way, so it’s understood but they don’t know that they never owned their children. Humans do not create any life. They simply facilitate the carrying forth of the life processes that were established and provided. The human family has it’s value but no longer for those few that feel called to leave it. Now, the Luciferians create facsimilies of what they know the Kingdom of God will require of it’s own when they come. Thus we see all sorts of groups spring up claiming to be Jesus or some prophet but there is only one from the One True Kingdom of God and you can know them by their fruit, which is everything they say and do that is “Above Human” in even an evolutionarily kind of way.
Some sections of Revelations reveal the entire process that entails the Kingdom of God’s arrival – blowing a trumphet which is making public statements that become national announcments in the new area They choose to come public in. This entails the Kingdom of God sending their workers, the Saints who returned to “stand up again to be harvested”( resurrect to Life) by cooperatively taking over an existing human being who wants to be in service to the Kingdom of God, who was prepared to recognize the voice of their shepherd, a genetic preparation but also with current life preparation so when they hear the voice of the messenger (angel) they know who it is and know they must leave all behind to be with the returned representative (son of man), the human being the Soul who was named Jesus takes over to perform this next phase in the task that He (the Soul) began some 6000+ years earlier having been the same Soul that performed the task of Adam, Enoch, Moses, Elijah, Jesus but with a new human vehicle and thus a new name now that resembles a Song that only his believers will want to learn.
I suggested Two phases to the harvest because two are portrayed here:
Rev 14:15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.
Rev 14:16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.
Rev 14:17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.
Rev 14:18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.
Rev 14:19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.
Rev 14:20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.
The depiction of cutting with a sickle indicates the human bodies these “fruit” (graduates from the Human Kingdom into The Kingdom of Heaven) requires loss of their physical body as Jesus demonstrated and addressed.
Joh 12:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.
Now back to Matthew 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
After the Sign comes the mourning by all the tribes of the Earth.
It’s very easy to settle for mystical answers as they are all too easy to fabricate and consider satisfactory explanations but this is what the false prophets that are leaders in all the religions, that is except for those few that are willing to consider this information here and willing to bring it to their congregation to have a real debate over. That’s testing the fruit and is a must.

Luk 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
Luk 21:26 Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
Luk 21:27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

Mar 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect’s sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
Mar 13:21 And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:
Mar 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
Mar 13:23 But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.
Mar 13:24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
Mar 13:25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
Mar 13:26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
Mar 13:27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

Mar 13:28 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When her branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is near:
Mar 13:29 So ye in like manner, when ye shall see these things come to pass, know that it is nigh, even at the doors.
Mar 13:30 Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.
Mar 13:31 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.
Mar 13:32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.
Mar 13:33 Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.
Mar 13:34 For the Son of Man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch.
Mar 13:35 Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning:
Mar 13:36 Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping.
Mar 13:37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.
Mark 14:62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
Mat 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
Mat 25:32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
Mat 25:33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
Mat 25:34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
Mat 26:62 And the high priest arose, and said unto him, Answerest thou nothing? what is it which these witness against thee?
Mat 26:63 But Jesus held his peace, And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God.
Mat 26:64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
Mat 26:65 Then the high priest rent his clothes, saying, He hath spoken blasphemy; what further need have we of witnesses? behold, now ye have heard his blasphemy.
Mat 26:66 What think ye? They answered and said, He is guilty of death.
Mat 26:67 Then did they spit in his face, and buffeted him; and others smote him with the palms of their hands,
Mat 26:68 Saying, Prophesy unto us, thou Christ, Who is he that smote thee?
Acts 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.


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