Archive for February, 2012

why were beyond human tapes taken down from xf’s youtube channel

February 17, 2012

This was an email from a fellow believer in Ti and Do that had contact with the class before they left but who lives overseas from the U.S. I’m posting his email and my response for whatever value it might have to others, believers or not. I’m thinking Nathaniel won’t mind, but Nathaniel, if you do mind, I can delete it from my sawyerhg.wordpress.com blog. I had contacted him about this issue of Dave G’s causing XF97checker to lose alll his youtube video postings, which included the Beyond Human Series Do did.

Nathaniel said:

“Hello Sawyer,

maybe you can put the tapes on youtube. I don’t understand the copyright issue? Who has a copyright on what? I think this are next level information and as far as I know, the next level has not claimed any copyright on the information.

I also look full of astonishment and joy at the pictures of SOHO satellite who analysis the sun. On some pictures you can see artificial objects with a size comparable to the Jupiter. Other pictures show artificial structures that are even bigger than the sun. So I think it’s clear that these are next level activities. The fact that some of the next level activities can be viewed by humans means that the disclosure and therefore the open (for every one visible) return of Ti and DO (the next level) on this planet is imminent. This is a joyfull event but I’m afraid that the people will go mad and kill everyone (destroy the bodies) who belongs to the next level. I know that I shouldn’t be afraid, but the truth is that I’m afraid.”

Sawyer’s reply:

Do and crew put a public copyright on their materials which indicates anyone can copy but not for sale of the copies.

Now the purple book had a price on it that Do and crew set, but all the info in it is available free on the web site as well as being in a zip file on rkkody’s web site heavensgatetoo.com, so I don’t find any fault in mark and sarah selling the purple books but the beyond human series and audio meeting tapes are a different story. The bh tapes were made and copyrighted at least on the tape jackets the crew made saying, Copyright 1992 Total Overcomers Anonymous (TOA). but when they exited in 97 they sent a handful of fedx’s to different former classmates who still wanted to be connected. The one who got the bh series of tape masters was jhnody – Juan who lives in Venezuela and I am occasionally in touch with.

Yes, it’s all Next Level info, but as far as youtude is concerned copyrights to some degree can matter when someone complains as dave g. did and we suspect is acting on marks behalf due to the additional things mark is doing to sell hard cover books and have new ody names (that is like assigning someone to be an apostle, strictly an assigned task (though all of us can choose to do the same task and of course it’s all the same, but those that were physcially with Ti and Do have a certain experience that the ody name represents and that was mostly to be used between classmates. (I don’t fault carlan for using his ody name because he was given that name by Do and there is no classroom so it’s his choice. I’ve used both but mostly sawyer as that is the name do gave me before the ody name and is the name used for me on the beyond human tapes where I was a helper to Do, so I’m trying to be consistant in that regard.

Yes the SOHO and lots of amazing things are apparant and yes it is stirring the ant bed significantly. They don’t want to hide it as so few are looking while those that are, are preparing for the “end”, which the Luciferian related space aliens (as all are in one way or another) are rushing to get humans to act upon by putting more and more into their weapons and means to escape earth and hide under the earth (where the new crop of luciferians will be forced to go to try to escape the recycing) while the old crop is recycled.

Yes, I understand that we are naturally fearful of how the humans will behave. One way or the other we will all lose these vehicles. It’s simply starting to coach one’s vehicle to not be afraid as whatever occurs will probably be swift though the fear of the unknown can be worse. I don’t know exactly what the “mark” of the mammalian predator dragon(luciferians) directed “beast” will actually look like – but I will not sucumb to getting one and will accept the consequences. That doesn’t mean I want to or I look forward to that ugliness befalling me(us) – I don’t. Ti and Do in one sense did not look forward to being killed when they still thought that was how the prophecy was going to play out, though not long after that, though we lived comfortably, they hated being here more and more and it became a joke of sorts that if we were to be “taken out” by an angry religionist they hoped they would “shoot straight” as they didn’t want to be connected to a vehicle that was a vegetable (if that would happen that way – I don’t know about).

It’s good to express what your feeling. I suggest you ask Do to help you have the strength to deal with the premise as he would. It wasn’t at all easy for Jesus to decide to lay down his physical vehicles life but once he accepted doing so, though I sure it was tough in someways we have no idea how the next level helpers though invisible helped him through it.

That’s where trust comes in. Trusting that we are in the Next Level’s care by believing in their current reps and trying in some fashion to share the info with others and though difficult accepting how we are in a sense branding ourselves by doing so.

The next level has the complete right to weed the garden. I know many humans curse the idea of a God that would kill, but the way it was all set up was that we were only allowed to kill creatures in the kingdom level beneath human which we do all the time with animals and plants, etc. to live and for other reasons, though that doesn’t excuse those who do so with cruelty and disregard/disrespect of that life.

When I was cutting branches of trees that hung over an area where we wanted/needed to place a tent to where it might interfer with that tent’s stabiltiy, Do would have me cut that branch, but at times I took it upon myself to cut additional branches, which was showing my use/trust of my own mind. That was early on in the classroom but I still hadn’t overcome my desire to use my own (human mind) even upon leaving them, yet Do rarely would tell us when we were choosign to use our human mind over his and Ti’s though sometime he knew he had to say something because that’s the only way we’d learn.

And that’s just for the classroom experience, though even when a member of the Next Level we’d want to know what our Older Member would do in any circumstance. In the Next Level environment though, the Older Members at times don’t give all emcompassing instructions, and genuinely want to hear what we encounter and what we chose to do and at times will ask his crew for their thoughts on how to approach a problem and may or may not approve the approach.

I don’t know if you saw the stereo B satellite telescopes view of the uncloaking of that huge object near mercury on dec 1st. That was amazing.

Check out my youtube.com/3spm channel for the video on the ODY names and the SONG that Ti and Do taught us that I suspect is the song, with their names in revelations 14.

Here is the first one of 4:

Genesis 6 Nephilim evidence they were fallen angels and talk of Ti and Do

February 14, 2012

The following is a letter to a guest on coast to coast radio that includes a detailed re-translation of part of Genesis Chapter 6 that talks of the Nephilim:
Hi Scotty
Here is the report I received from Coast to Coast summarizing what you spoke about which I will comment about after the report:

***** Report states:

“The Nephilim:

In the second half, paranormal investigator and author Scotty Roberts discussed his research into the Nephilim and their origins. He explained that his investigation of the infamous entities focused on the language of the original Hebrew texts where they are described. As such, he dismissed the popular notion that the Nephilim were “fallen angels,” since the entities are never given that moniker. Rather, they are said to be the result of a union between “watchers” and humans. Roberts theorized that the creation of the Nephilim could be traced all the way back to the Garden of Eden and a dalliance between Eve and an entity metaphorically called a “serpent.” As to the origins of these “visitors” who played a hand in creating the Nephilim, he acknowledged that they could have been spiritual beings, “minor Gods,” or even extraterrestrials.

Ultimately, Roberts said, these Nephilim are blamed for corrupting the human race by sharing forbidden knowledge with them, a theme appears in many creation stories. In light of this corruption, he surmised, the great flood of Noah’s Ark lore was orchestrated not to punish the corrupt humans, but to wipe away the presence of the Nephilim on Earth. However, Roberts suggested that the Nephilim may still be on the planet as what we call “demons.” He cited a passage in the book of Enoch which says that the “spirits” of the Nephilim that died in the flood remained on Earth in a ghostly form to “wreak the same havoc, from a spirit form, on humanity that they wreaked while in physical form.”
*****

Sawyer’s comments:

serpent is hebrew “hisser”, in other words someone who spoke softly to entice, deceive and manipulate their subject.

I think you are mistaken as to the classification of the Nephilim not being “fallen angels” because of not having documentation as that’s what the phrase “sons of God” together with “giants” represents but one has to the etomology of these phrases/words and their context. As with many of these historic records there are layers of meanings, each of which have their own degree of accuracy.

First off here are the key versus Moses authored, but of course to obtain a more complete meaning one must look at the Hebrew:

Gen 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Gen 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

Gen 6:4 (There were) giants in the (earth) in (those days); and (also) after that, when (the) sons (of) God (came) in (unto the) daughters of men, (and they) bare [children] (to them, the) same [became] (mighty) men (which) [were] (of) old, men (of) renown.

*** Side Note: Words in parentheses ( ) were put in by me to identify what the translators added to round out the translation in English as they were not all or exactly what was taken from the original manuscripts though many time some of them were added because there is no word for word translation between languages. Often one Hebrew word, for instance, a noun also has a verb associated, thus the Hebrew word for “in” is “bow'” pronounced as bow but has many associated applications according to the context but essentially means “to go or come” as applied to abiding, applying, attaining, befalling, bringing forth or to pass, causing or “entering in or into”, which is what goes well with the words “daughters (of) men, and they bare [children]” which generally took place from sexual intercourse. However in the previous usage of the word “in”, as in, “giants (in the) earth” there is no absolute reason “in” was most appropriate as it could have been “giants on earth” or “giants around or near or under the earth because the Hebrew word “bow'” was not literally in the verse at that usage though it was recorded as in the verse pertaining to the “sons (of) God (came) IN (unto the) daughters (of) men”. In this later usage of IN just noted, to add “came” seems befitting the context though one could also have put in “entered” in, to indicate intercourse that was the likley way in which the daughters were brought to “bare” (give birth). It could have also been translated to “cause daughter to bare. In fact most of the definition of “in” can have a direct relationship to the birthing process between these sons of God and daughters of men. Here is the Strongs Dictionary listing for:

in =
935 bow’ bo a primitive root; to go or come (in a wide variety of applications):–abide, apply, attain, X be, befall, + besiege, bring (forth, in, into, to pass), call, carry, X certainly, (cause, let, thing for) to come (against, in, out, upon, to pass), depart, X doubtless again, + eat, + employ, (cause to) enter (in, into, -tering, -trance, -try), be fallen, fetch, + follow, get, give, go (down, in, to war), grant, + have, X indeed, (in-)vade, lead, lift (up), mention, pull in, put, resort, run (down), send, set, X (well) stricken (in age), X surely, take (in), way.

However in the context of the full definition of the word translated to “giants” and the association with these being “fallen” as will be described in detail below and the association that having fallen was also to have failed and how the assocation of having failed was also having “died” (primariy in terms of one’s spirit/soul (though also the body) and the associated idea of such death termed as the “second death” being a condition of no return, thus final and therefore “hell” and that being spoken about as being “under” the earth then brings rise to the idea that these “giants” were in fact living underground though if they were without physical bodies could still be under the earth though it would be a severe distraction from any practical reality to think that in spirit form they could cause human women to “bare” children so we can safely surmise that these “giants” were physical.

Now where we see square brackets used in notation: [ ] were where the original authors were rounding out the interpretaion.

*** end of side note ***

The main keyword I wanted to focus on here, that is strong evidence that these were in fact “fallen angels” is “giants”. I am using Strongs Hebrew/Greek to English dictionary as primary reference:

giants =
5303 nphiyl nef-eel’ or nphil {nef-eel’}; from ‘naphal’ (5307); properly, a feller, i.e. a bully or tyrant:–giant.

So the first indicator of mistranslation is evident in the choice of the term “giant” that really is a “size” or “stature” term where bully and tyrant depict behavior, a significantly more descriptive term, yet to stop there would be a poor job of translation so we look to it’s orgin in 5307 that they are saying boils down to being a “feller”.

5307 naphal naw-fal’ a primitive root; to fall, in a great variety of applications (intransitive or causative, literal or figurative):–be accepted, cast (down, self, (lots), out), cease, die, divide (by lot), (let) fail, (cause to, let, make, ready to) fall (away, down, -en, -ing), fell(-ing), fugitive, have (inheritance), inferior, be judged (by mistake for ‘palal’ (6419)), lay (along), (cause to) lie down, light (down), be (X hast) lost, lying, overthrow, overwhelm, perish, present(-ed, -ing), (make to) rot, slay, smite out, X surely, throw down.

Notice the first phrase used: “to fall” used in many applications, so why didn’t they say something to the affect of, “Gen 6:4 There were “fallen” in the Earth in those days…

Now this indicates these “fallen” are different from the “sons of God” but first let’s play out this “naphal” translation more thoroughly.

It’s very strange that the next defintion says “be accepted” while almost all the rest of the terms/phrases indicate the opposite (though one would have to know who or what was doing the “accepting”. Perhaps it is related to their being “in the earth” thus the Earth accepted them.

However the next word definition is “cast” (down,self,(lots), out), thus now it implies though these may have been accepted by someone/something they were also cast down or out, which can then be understood as “ceasing, dieing, being divided away from, having failed at something that was the “fall”.

And here is a huge curiosity. Note the initial most proper translation of nphiyl was “feller” – well is that as in “someone who fell” a “fell-er” so was a description of what occurred, where the “bully or tyrant” part was more indicative of the behavior that went with these “fallen” ones.

To play out the rest of the definitions for naphal we see that these were now “fugitives” who have inherited something as a result (the inside of the Earth?) and were “judged” that has a depiction of “laying down, downing their light, having lost, due to their lying and attempts to overthrow, overwhelm what they presumably were thrown away (fell away from), thus they perished from that previous state/status that resulted in their being slayed, smitten, thrown down, and to rot(decay) (as opposed to the opposite of have eternal life as this is all in the context of the Garden as designed and developed by the plural Elohiym – “supreme or above human beings that were to humans their judges and rulers” and a plural term indicating there were more than one of these in operation in this record.

Additional evidence of the definitions follow:

5308
nphal
nef-al’
(Aramaic) corresponding to ‘naphal’ (5307):–fall (down), have occasion.

5309
nephel
neh’-fel
or nephel {nay’-fel}; from ‘naphal’ (5307); something fallen, i.e. an abortion:–untimely birth.

Note even in the pronounciation of all these words is the sound of “fell” as in “nay’-fel” which sounds like “away fall” or as would be said in English “fall away”. We can think that such a depiction of the pronounciation couldn’t possabily contain the meaning as one is Hebrew and the other is an English method of pronounciation but all languages develop from sounds so it really is not a big leap to see the sounding as demonstration of the word’s original meaning.

Now this doesn’t answer the other part of the idea that these “giants” were fallen ANGELS. They obviously fell and/or were removed (cast down) from something that was up or from a former position or status or condition and even from a different environment as you can’t fall up in any way as everything on earth is with the understanding of gravity drawing or pushing us down in it’s physics even if applied to one’s position or status as in a career or task. One does not fall down to a better or more advanced or more prestigious or popular or even altruistic position.

And this may seem circumstantial but it’s worth keeping in mind that this related term nephel as being “something fallen” is exampled as “an abortion” or a birth that was premature, failed, didn’t make it to full term needed to be a viable birth thus untimely which goes to the part of the definition surrounding these having “failed” or “ceased, died, perished” in some way, the result of having fallen which also has the relationship to “acceptance” in not being accepted in what they were previously engaged as one can’t fail from something never endeavoured. So if the term for a failed birth is the termination of that birth as in an abortion then what was terminated was that birth and the Life that would have went with it.

But to further prove this idea out that these “fallen” were serving the Kingdom of Elohyim as messengers (angels) would logically follow that having fallen, it would have been from some position of service to the Elohiym which a messenger (angel) is defined as.

One can look at Gen 6:4 and see that following the text about the “fell-ers” those that fell in, onto the Earth “after that when” actual words in the Hebrew manuscript text the sons of God came in to the human daughters (distinuishing these “sons” from humans(hebrew adam (men)).

Thus we need to examine these three words, “after that, when” to see if there is a more contextual interpretation.

And in so doing, some very interesting ideas surface. The Hebrew for AFTER is achar but as an adverb this is a description of some action in it’s usage and we see the primary list of options under #309 (what 310 comes from) as to loiter, procrastinate, defer, delay, and even related to the idea of “the hind part” to hinder (follow after the choices in the noun of this verse, the fallen “fell-ers” which is related to being slack, staying (as opposed to moving forward), causing to tarry (longer, all the same sense).

I like “hinder” (for reasons that will become evident), but to hinder what, to which we look at the definition of “that”, Hebrew #3651, ken, from 3559’s kuwn = hindering someone’s “being erect” or “setting upright”, being faithful, firm in their stand, their establishing perfection, self preparation, orgaining, stability in terms of their “right manner, right timing and right relations” their cause to become perfect, to have faithfullness and stability.

So who is being hindered from their being faithful and firm and acting in right manner, (pertaining to the object of these records, to learn the lessons involved and stemming from the choice of their forefathers back to the start of the current civilization experiment) but the Sons(offspring) of the Elohiym(God) (work for the Elohiym, watching or messaging(thus angels)) which succeeded in also causing their fall from their relationship with the Elohyim by their “coming or entering into” (impregnating) the daughters of humans (not part of their angelic task instructions) to produce offspring that became powerful tyrants among humans that the Elohiym then determined needed to be erradicated which leads into the story of Noah.

Here is the reseach used above, but afterwards I will begin to further develope this translation/interpretation:

*after =
310 ‘achar akh-ar’ from ”achar’ (309); properly, the hind part; generally used as an adverb or conjunction, after (in various senses):–after (that, -ward), again, at, away from, back (from, -side), behind, beside, by, follow (after, -ing), forasmuch, from, hereafter, hinder end, + out (over) live, + persecute, posterity, pursuing, remnant, seeing, since, thence(-forth), when, with.

309 ‘achar aw-khar’ a primitive root; to loiter (i.e. be behind); by implication to procrastinate:–continue, defer, delay, hinder, be late (slack), stay (there), tarry (longer).

311 ‘achar akh-ar'(Aramaic) corresponding to ”achar’ (310); after:–(here-)after.
312 ‘acher akh-air’ from ”achar’ (309); properly, hinder; generally, next, other, etc.:–(an-)other man, following, next, strange.

*that =
3651 ken kane from ‘kuwn’ (3559); properly, set upright; hence (figuratively as adjective) just; but usually (as adverb or conjunction) rightly or so (in various applications to manner, time and relation; often with other particles):–+ after that (this, -ward, -wards), as … as, + (for-)asmuch as yet, + be (for which) cause, + following, howbeit, in (the) like (manner, -wise), X the more, right, (even) so, state, straightway, such (thing), surely, + there (where)-fore, this, thus, true, well, X you.
3652 ken kane (Aramaic) corresponding to ‘ken’ (3651); so:–thus.
3653 ken kane the same as ‘ken’ (3651), used as a noun; a stand, i.e. pedestal or station:–base, estate, foot, office, place, well.
3654 ken kane from ‘kanan’ (3661) in the sense of fastening; a gnat (from infixing its sting; used only in plural (and irreg. in Exod. 8:17,18; Heb. 13:14)):–lice, X manner.

3559 kuwn koon a primitive root; properly, to be erect (i.e. stand perpendicular); hence (causatively) to set up, in a great variety of applications, whether literal (establish, fix, prepare, apply), or figurative (appoint, render sure, proper or prosperous):–certain(-ty), confirm, direct, faithfulness, fashion, fasten, firm, be fitted, be fixed, frame, be meet, ordain, order, perfect, (make) preparation, prepare (self), provide, make provision, (be, make) ready, right, set (aright, fast, forth), be stable, (e-)stablish, stand, tarry, X very deed.

*when =
834 ‘aher ash-er’ a primitive relative pronoun (of every gender and number); who, which, what, that; also (as an adverb and a conjunction) when, where, how, because, in order that, etc.:–X after, X alike, as (soon as), because, X every, for, + forasmuch, + from whence, + how(-soever), X if, (so) that ((thing) which, wherein), X though, + until, + whatsoever, when, where (+ -as, -in, -of, -on, -soever, -with), which, whilst, + whither(- soever), who(-m, -soever, -se). As it is indeclinable, it is often accompanied by the personal pronoun expletively, used to show the connection.

Ti and Do

One has a most difficult task deciphering much of the historic record if they don’t have some overview that is not otherwise easily apparant beyond what is largely thought of in symbolic aka religious aka spiritual ways today. I spent 19 years with two extraordinary teachers, whom I won’t go into detail about now, except that the names they took and which hold for present to future communications, until they say otherwise by coming in new human vehicles were/are Ti and Do. They are not in human vehicles(bodys) at this time. There is a mountain of extraordinary information about these two, of which only a periphery became published across the globe in 1975-6 and again starting in 1988 that lasted to a finalli in March of 1997 when the entire group volunarily and happily (as some chose to express individually on video tape) layed down the phycial bodies they prepared and then took (human bodies with implanted souls that were seekers and wanted a relationship with their Heavenly Father, in whatever terms they thought about it), remaining in the national and international headlines for at least two weeks called the Heaven’s Gate “suicide” Cult.

They didn’t generally talk in religio-spiritual terminology. They called it more generic terminology. One of the biggest phrases they instigated was:

The Evolutionary Level Above Human, shortened to Level Above Human shortened to Next Level = The Kingdom of God/Heaven, Physical Kingdom in the literal Heavens (not terrestrial) (Jesus said he had “no place to lay his head”) = Elohiym. This Next Level is many membered. Though they don’t use these titles, there is a chief of chiefs but for all intents and purposes we don’t know if we ever meet or work with or are seen directly by a chief but we do have opportunity to be with what Do called the Admiral of this Earth garden project, but according to Revelations 12 is the woman who has 12 stars in her crown which would be like saying she is the Admiral over at least 12 Earth equivilents with equivilent life forms.

Through what I gathered from Ti and Do, (though it wasn’t by any means typical Bible teaching) I feel I was given certain insights (because they did not teach out of the bible nor cover in detail any parts of the Old Testement and comparably few verses from the New Testement as they had what would be considered a very obscure or strange somewhat secular-scientific looking approach to the historic record). Acutally I may not have any real insights as I do feel and have evidence that there are some on Their crew operating from spacecrafts near and/or far, according to their vast technological reach that help me observe things that otherwise I would probably overlook. It’s always a combonation of the human vehicle (me) being able to receive and understand the voice/character/mind of, the invisibles they give their allegience/service attention/love to, whether it’s among human and equivilent evolutionary level of physcial and spirit beings, other physical and Spirit/Soul beings (related to Luciferian Space (Alien) “fallen angels”(dropout students who were apprentising holding domestic level tasks on Earth from previous Earth and potential near Earth civilizations) and/or Luciferian Space ET/Aliens from any Earth Equivilent in the near vicinity of Earth, as we can see in some constellation star systems, or Members of The Evolutionary Level Above Human in whatever physical density they choose to maintain (though on their spacecrafts that are within certain planets they operate in assigned physical bodies, though some can take them off and put one in a closet while they put on another for a specific task, the way humans put on a space suit or diving suit.,

Together with the exploring of all things spiritual in my youth, to living in a commune with Ti and Do and their small group of students for 19 years and then having another 18 years, the last 10 spent reinterpreting parts of that record, as one can see that can be an exhausting chore due to the fact that virtually every word can require examination. But because of that road, I have arrived at the following understanding. I’m not claiming this as an absolute knowledge but I know it’s among the closest. (I actually believe it is the closest because of who I know these two teachers to be, which by the way they are no longer in human vehicles so there is no going after them, which Jesus told us we won’t have to do upon Their return because they would come to US with their public announcement (trumphet) having new information (prophecy), the bold truth about who they are and where they have come from, why they are here and when they will leave). While I was with Ti and Do, though I didn’t know it, I was largely in the dark about much of what they gave out. I recall it all when there is reason to remember, which I ask for and believe I get help with.

But to be clear, though I am special for having been given this information and have somehow still maintained an escalating belief and service to them – service now is dissemination of the information and accepting the ramifications. There will not be any new instructions of service so no one has to worry about believing this info and then finding out that someone is going to claim they are Do returned in a new vehicle and that it’s time to lay down our lives again. I’m not saying that laying down one’s life is a wrong thing to do. It’s always a choice. But what I am saying and what Do said to me in a dream when I asked if I should prepare my vehicle to be willing to lay down it’s life as they did, He said very clearly, “give your life”, thus it was up to me when, where and how and to what degree I would need to give my life. However, should we give our allegience to Ti and Do now, which can be done by anyone at anytime and as often as they wish, but should be something totally private but should include addressing them by the names they gave us, to keep human spirits and dead souls and/or space aliens from trying to intercept our communications. Thus you are now “special” as well, just to have received the opportunity as there is no follow up or group to belong to, creed to follow, though of course one would want to get well versed in all things Ti and Do left behind for us to disseminate to others which can still be found on heavensgatetoo.com and various former students and new believers sites/channels who have posted video’s and meeting tapes and all their writings with mine including my experiences with them and what’s taken afterwards since and the various interpretations of how they fulfilled all the Jesus prophecies.

What I have learned from this examination is that there are layers of interpretation to most things, but if they originated from the body of individuals who actually designed, developed and maintain planets like Earth all throughout the universe for their purposes, then they always have a LITERAL application though appropriate for each human according to how much they want to know and participate in their own schooling with each students actual capasity. And when I say, capasity, what’s important to the Next Level is your capacity to change, to get rid of ALL you’ve gotten yourself into, positive or negative, to make application to their crew membership.

When the Next Level start a civilization garden soul growing experiment on a planet as they did at the stage of growing a human vehicle named in our record “man” or “human”, Hebrew adam, when this newly genetically developed creature is given what was termed the “breath of life” that made them a living SOUL, it simply meant that they were given what amounts to what humans and some space aliens do to animal/humans respectively (though the space aliens are also human or human equivilent) in tagging one or imbedding a computer chip with firmware equivilent programs the user can choose to activate and develop use of. With this “chip” comes a mechanism to gather data as well, thus a database management system, on par to the way the human brain stores information. The main difference is what the “programs” involve, how to use them and the data they interface with. The human brain computer that includes all the tiny computer systems that makeup the human gnome is somewhat limited to human level programs and data. Those programs are innate but then upon human adulthood kick in to pursuits of career and other mental/physical quests.
The added “Soul body” computer chip holds only data that has a slightly “hotter/brighter” electromagnetic signature, though this has little interface/application to human endeavours and in fact can tend to render pursuit of norms of human behaviour and ways unfullfilling and even boring, though that doesn’t stop the holder from exploring them. It’s like a chip set with a new frequency range and reach. Thus those humans who receive it do have a “special” opportunity as receiving such increases their sense of what’s possible and enables a recognition of those who installed that chip set, when Next Level personal are on task in what’s been termed an incarnation into a human vehicle to lead what is much like Star Trek’s “away teams” – a mission. Their mission is to provide the data they have added to their Soul database as appropriate to the grade in school of the humans they are assigned to interface with. That data will contain Their behaviors and ways. For those who embrace it and put into practice the rules/commandments/regulations provided, they will be building their own soul body so that at some future time, after several periods of time of interface soul to body, they will be brought by incarnate Members from the Next Level’s kingdom, also termed “Fathers” or more generically at this time, “Older Members” to a graduate level experience when they would graduate their mammalian human nature to become like a butterfly coming from the catepillar world. A human vehicle is abolutely needed, as the catapillar needs a cocoon to become birthed a butterfly.

But when the Next Level in a sense implant this pocket/container (new wineskin, Jesus used as an analogy) in/onto a human being they designed to be receptive to one, though also designed to choose to reject and even rebell from, they are creating one of their offspring thus termed a “son”. However just becoming a son does not guarantee one will become an adult and that is the object of the planting but they don’t want robots to join their ranks of their crews on their spacecrafts and labs. They don’t need sons nor help though it’s their pleasure and the way they received their evolution above the human condition so they love offerring the same opportunity to those born on the planets they prepare to function as gardens.

The growth process simplified in view consists of three trimesters. The Moses experience would be an example of the first, the the Jesus the second and the last being the graduation/harvest period which is in progress as we speak and will be finished by the time we are all physically dead.

When any one of these planted soul seeds succeeds in their trimester dvelopment, when their flesh body dies, that implanted soul body is “saved” from a merger into the earth’s “spirit world” and instead kept in a temporary area called Abraham’s Bosum and later by Jesus, Paradise, which is an invisible and quite large type of spacecraft manned by invisible but still physical beings, though of far less density than humans.

When the next trimester is planned, perhaps 1000 or 2000 or so years later, though there are prepatory representatives of the Next Level sent to earth in between, those “saved” souls are brought back to begin a new interface with a human vehicle that was descended from that same genetic stock, so it will have a match with the incoming soul body. This is where the idea of reincarnation came from. Those humans that never received this soul body, still have their own spirit body that consists of all they thougth and did from birth of the body that includes the subconscious genetic carry over from the biology of the parents gnome, that also exits at death but doesn’t go anywhere and since it is like a program that still wants to perform it automatically is drawn living humans, generally those whom it had bonded with most, to play it’s programs through and that can work to the benefit or detriment of the human unknowing “host”. Each human is born with it’s own “spirit” mental and physical inclinations and is in development which is why some of the records say, man is only given one life to live.

However, for those that choose to bond with the incarnate representative from the Eloyhim, which extends for a time after they exit with or without their physical body, by seeking to embrace all that they said and did while here, which some will seek to learn from those who did have a face to face relationship, at their physical death, their Soul that enabled them to bond in the first place, will again be “saved” and brought back with the souls that were there for their second trimester.
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*** Additional notes pertaining to what Ti and Do taught (They didn’t teach out of the Bible though they said they were from the same Family to bring updates and to fulfill prophecy and said they were the Revelations Chapter 11 Two Witnesses and the Revelations Chapter 12 Woman, as the Father giving soul(spiritual) birth to the Son who’s body was named Jesus 2000 years or so ago but of late as of these Two his name became Do as in the scale do re me fa so la ti, while the woman took the name ti from the same scale satisfying a few prophecies of having new names upon return and their names being related to a new song students would want to learn to sing as a form of internal request for service plus personal growth in the ways they teach (same as what Jesus and Moses taught appropriate to those time periods and stages in a three trimester spirit birth program) non-religious or spiritual “prayer”, not that it would have a tonal melody or rythum to it. However, they did give their students an actual song to sing that they picked the lyrics to and chose the melody from Bach’s Jesus Meine Freund (Jesus my friend).The words went like this: Help me have no human ways, no thoughts of self, no faults to see, only the ways of space. Now I know my heart is fast, in my Father’s path at last, only the ways of space, only the ways of space. ***

****** Genesis Chapter 6 *****************
Gen 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
Gen 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Gen 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
Gen 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
Gen 6:6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
Gen 6:7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
Gen 6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.
Gen 6:9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.
Gen 6:10 And Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
Gen 6:11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.
violence = 2554
chamac
khaw-mas’
a primitive root; to be violent; by implication, to maltreat:–make bare, shake off, violate, do violence, take away violently, wrong, imagine wrongfully.

2555
chamac
khaw-mawce’
from ‘chamac’ (2554); violence; by implication, wrong; by meton. unjust gain:–cruel(-ty), damage, false, injustice, X oppressor, unrighteous, violence (against, done), violent (dealing), wrong.

Gen 6:12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.
earth = 776
‘erets
eh’-rets
from an unused root probably meaning to be firm; the earth (at large, or partitively a land):–X common, country, earth, field, ground, land, X natins, way, + wilderness, world.

corrupt = 7843
shachath
shaw-khath’
a primitive root; to decay, i.e. (causatively) ruin (literally or figuratively):–batter, cast off, corrupt(-er, thing), destroy(-er, -uction), lose, mar, perish, spill, spoiler, X utterly, waste(-r).

Gen 6:13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.
Gen 6:14 Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch.
Gen 6:15 And this is the fashion which thou shalt make it of: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits.
Gen 6:16 A window shalt thou make to the ark, and in a cubit shalt thou finish it above; and the door of the ark shalt thou set in the side thereof; with lower, second, and third stories shalt thou make it.
Gen 6:17 And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.
Gen 6:18 But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons’ wives with thee.
Gen 6:19 And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.
Gen 6:20 Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive.
Gen 6:21 And take thou unto thee of all food that is eaten, and thou shalt gather it to thee; and it shall be for food for thee, and for them.
Gen 6:22 Thus did Noah; according to all that God commanded him, so did he.

About Paul of Tarsus & son of adam(man) returns & requirements to be taken physically on board new jerusalem spacecraft

February 9, 2012

Regarding Paul of Tarsus and more:

You will see places where Paul is telling those to whom the letter is addressed what to do. Like that long hair on men is no good and how everyone has their spiritual gifts, his being prophecy. We need to remind people that Jesus demonstate as his WAY (I am the way, is saying use me as an example – do what I do, say what I say) and his demonstration included saying that he was only telling others what the Father gave him to say and how he’d kept all the disciples his Father gave to him and how he actually chose to be killed (which is in many examples on earth considered suicide – kama kazi pilots from japan would crash their fighters into naval war ships to be sure there was a strike, Martyrdom. The entire difference between doing so for a government and one’s incarnate older member who is with us and we are with them and have in debth conversations about doing so is just that, who it is for, as Jesus said God or Mammon, boiling down to one or the other. Anyway off the track of paul…
You might find some things I posted on my blog http://www(dot)sawyerhg(dot)wordpress(dot)com and perhaps also on http://www(dot)blogtalkradio(dot)com/sawyerhg
I’ll see if I still have stuff and send it to you.
And of course Paul’s envy (covetting) what he saw the Apostles had, which I can relate to, as I felt jealously towards classmates that had more contact with Ti and Do, which changed for me when I decided to put that out of my mind and just do the tasks around the craft, however meniel – vacuuming, transcribing the meeting tapes, etc.
I think to do this in a next level way would be to not judge paul but to point out that these were areas he would have lessons on if his soul was saved and brought back, which I suspect it would have been, because he certainly believed in Jesus and put his life on the line for him.
I don’t believe that he said anything that would/could have turned someones’ eyes at that time away from believe in Jesus, though because of his writings and inexperience and humaness and mostly Luciferian manipulation, like you said we see lots of evidence that his teachings have replaced Jesus because they are much easier to understand and then follow.
How many people can fathom, “if you eye offends you pluck it out, better to enter into LIFE with one eye than to burn in the hellfires (paraphrased), and the other tree equivilent quotes.
I wonder how those say the entire Jesus story was made up to con people to follow the leaders like sheep, to do their bidding would say those scriptures would be a lure to someone.
(oh, then the luciferians would have someone who thinks that, think, well, the story also morphed, was changed along the way like in the telephone game).
But then isn’t in interesting that the entire Jesus story is centered around giving one’s physical and mental life to the KIngdom of God though the Father and Son incarnate.
And if the jesus story was made up was also the moses writings just as fictitious?
sorry, off track again.
I’ll try to put something together on the famous rapture quotes in 1thesselonians and a few other places that I suspect he could have only received from Peter or another who was or knew disciples.
I believe there were actally 24 returneed souls there, so with the new vehicles they incarnated into by cohabitating with the Soul in the vehicle, became 48 and then at this time became the 96 in the same way with Ti and Do, 48 souls returning to take over 48 vehicles for the first graduation. Jesus indicated exponential growth from investment in a parable.
I may not have that right but it is interesting how numbers line up in this as we were down to 1 or 2 more than 24 when making the beyond human series, when Do gave us adult names and told us he thought we’d done all we could do so it was now time to wait for other things to happen in the world.
And, when you started asking about the virgin birth, I had been for some time asking/puzzeling over what Jesus meant by “son of man”. At first I thought he was saying, “son of human”, but I then thought it was saying “son of man as man was an “adult” – like I said, becoming an “adult” means you have graduated the human kingdom.
Then just a couple days ago, it hit me, which I suspect was from Ti and Do’s crew, from whoever has the task of messenger with me(us), that since the english word man, though in greek means the same thing the hebrew word that Jesus would have used would have been “adom” or “adam”, thus he was saying, “ben (bane) of adam (aw-dawm’)
as in…
Eze 2:1 And he said unto me, Son of man, stand upon thy feet, and I will speak unto thee.
Eze 2:2 And the spirit entered into me when he spake unto me, and set me upon my feet, that I heard him that spake unto me.
Eze 2:3 And he said unto me, Son of man, I send thee to the children of Israel, to a rebellious nation that hath rebelled against me: they and their fathers have transgressed against me, even unto this very day.
which I know is saying the same thing as to what Jesus seemed to mean by use of the phrase, still being an offspring of or from human…
but then where the sense of having received more clarification was in the idea that Jesus’ Father wasn’t Joseph, so where did they get the sperm, I began to think and walla, Adam, the first being popped into my head and of course all the vehicles that had descended from Adam/Eve, and who ever mated with Cain and Abel and Then when Abel was out of the picture, Seth..etc. – So adam was functionin as a human.
So to Jesus I believe “son of man” was a task assignment and the return was going to be yet another “genetic offspring of the adam seed lineage as the human gnome that’s been made current to a Souls’ development and experience while developing inside a human is passed on via the sperm to the next egg setting up the subconscious mind with the awareness they’d arrived at minus the events/activities that brought them to fruititian.
Jesus saying, “you will see the son of man coming in the clouds…” sound to me more next level in this way. It’s not self centered. He is not assuming it will be him returning, though at the same time he knew he had that task assignment ( though he also knew that upon his return to the FAther, if he hadn’t done his task to the Father’s approval, that task could be given to somene else. I may be wrong about this. I suspect it works in theory of the Next Level way of not DEPENDING upon the accuracy of our second guessing what our Older Members would think/do, though in practice it had been that Souls task from the start – adam, enoch, moses, elijah before hand)
So regarding “son of man” it is all the meanings but they are all clearly pertaining to having a human physical presense on the planet again, though on the day, the Next Level determines “it’s done”, all the returnee souls have found soul impregnated vehicles (you and me and other believers in ti and do), it may be that what those who are still in human vehicles will actually be able to see Do and the face of the last vehicle he used hovering among the clouds like in the wizard of Oz. It would be done in such a way that no space alien or human could even come close to demonstrating if it happens this way.
And I suspect if it does happen this way, the reason those in human vehicles may see Do’s face is because that’s who had his face imprinted on their brain by the media and study, etc.
Thus those that irgnored or hated Do – saw him as evil could die of freight from witnessing this. They’d want to hide from his face and would go underground to try to escape him and wish they were dead, they would feel so terrible, while those who grew accustomed to Do’s vehicles face and to some degree love him, want to work for him, accepting the ramifications as they come, would be drawn to him and I suppose if the Next Level wants to preserve some of those vehicles they might levitate (beam up) some, but only those who have to the best of their abilty (which means they ask help with accomplishing) are not sexual and have no guile – are not critically judging eveyrthing and everyone they come upon, beause as Ti and Do said, upon a spacecraft the existing members of the Next Level who are very senstive to thoughts as that’s the way they communicate, would know what we are thinking and it would be like having creatures among them that are like animals giving off poofoofusses (what Ti and Do called farts.
(I’m not exactly sure they said it would be like giving off poofoofusses, but it was certainly quite undesirable to have around them, but they would know that before them took those vehicles into their craft.
And this may be how those that can be assigned new tasks are distinguished from those who are “put on ice” til next classroom begins. If they are either a soul (as the soul, if it hadn’t developed restraint, would still not be restrained when in the Next Level’s physical company.
Ti and Do said that, regarding getting on board a spacecraft, that sure at first we’d be so taken with everything, the enviroment, the activities, the technologies…we’d be on our best behavior but if we hadn’t started a strong program of restraint of our negativity (that judgementalism is) and/or we were still desiring sexuality, that sense of awe would fake off and we’d be faced with that programming coming into our consciousness and that would be also like putting “static” into the craft. Oh, yes, I believe Ti might have compared it to dragging one’s fingernails accross a chaulkboard to where they’d have to find someplace to put you where you couldn’t interfer with their tasks.

Q and A re Do on Jesus virgin birth resurrection prophecy Incarnation Humanity and Sawyer regrets dropout

February 6, 2012

The following are an accumulation of questions and my responses:
(1) I thought God could see into the future, hence prophecy. Then again, now that I think about it, if Jesus ‘was’ tipped off about Paul, would he not have mentioned Paul? I also wanted to ask what Do taught about Jesus.
Right from the beginning Ti and Do said that the garden project was an EXPERIMENT, which means that they don’t know how it’s all going to come out exactly. Sure there are many things they know will go a certain way, because it’s part of the design, like that there will be a recycling following the harvest(s) would be a huge one.
Prophecy does demonstrate the Next Level’s knowing how the garden grows, the cycles and seasons and the behavior in general of the Luciferians is pretty predictible but the details of exactly who will say what to what they instigate and which souls will choose which direction and how long certain stages will take, how many souls will respond in a way that they would count favourable to save for a future harvest etc, and how and when and even how often and in what kind of debth and whether literal or figurative certain prophecies will be realized is all according to the free will of the creatures, though they know that the entire human kingdom isn’t going to respond favourably, like Do said, “it would deplete the human kingdom if everyone decided to seek Next Level membership all at one time”.
The Next Level certainly know that they are going to assign certain tasks having to do with the recycling, like the second set of 7 angels in revelations who have vials, one of which is to scorch the earth with fire/heat (thus global warming and drought, famine). But they don’t know how many will seek God’s help with these difficulties.
An example of how the Next Level changes certain things as needed is the Rev. 11 prophecy as the greek word apokteino can mean “kill in any way” as in hault or stop, and rise up/stand up again/resurrect, regenerate can have mulitple applications and can apply to Soul bodies, genetic strain (new leaves) growing and if they want, can decide to take one or more vehicle up to their spacecraft via some kind of levitation technology, into a cloud again. They could still have something like that happen to satisfy prophecy even more than it already has. Thus they design prophecy to have a certain flexabilty built in which includes multiple applications.
Jesus did forcast Paul but not by name when he said there would be false christs who will come “in my name saying I am the Christ” and though we don’t see it in the gospels, John in one of his letters says that “the antichrist has come”
1John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
I wouldn’t be surprised if there were as many who were claiming to be messiah before, during and after Jesus came and went as there have been up to today claiming to be the second coming. We don’t hear about alot of them, but I’d bet there are many.
(2) Was it a virgin birth or was Mary artificially inseminated on board a NL craft? I believe the latter.
I believe Do said he thought the virgin birth story came about because Jesus was not born through Joseph’s or another human’s seed, that the Next Level, on a spacecraft did give the vehicle special treatment so it could better do it’s task. (paraphrased).
(3) was Jesus, as he was growing up, only a man who void of any divinity until his baptism?
So no Jesus was not only a human. Mary’s egg was human but the programming provided with whatever seed they used to inseminate her was special.
(4) did the soul incarnate into Jesus at birth, or when he began to awaken or did that soul enter him when he was age 30 at his baptism? Just so I’m clear on who Jeus was. I know that Do said, unless I misquote him, that Jesus was tempted – certainly after fasting but he did not succomb (give into/surrender) to forms of sensuality.
I believe Do said that the Mind/Soul of the Older Member from the heavens didn’t take over the vehicle completly until the baptism and that’s what some saw as a dove descending upon him (and the voice, etc.) (which would have been for those witnessing this advantage to experience.
Yes, Jesus was tempted. Do thought Jesus experienced many things humans normally do, which enables him to teach how to get out of our human behaviour from his own experience. I believe Do said, that this idea that Jesus was pure from birth was a lie to get people off track as to the way the Next Level set’s up such a task.
The whole point of the reason they come incarnate, taking physical bodies, was to have a hands on experience with what the students needed to do, in their terms, otherwise they would look at him and say, “It’s fine for you to say we need to overcome, but how do we do that” and a member of the Next Level simply doesn’t have that in their terms at their fingertips unless they get down into the snakepit with them, to demonstrate the same effort needed.
(5) “Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds out of his mouth” is a statement used by a lot of ultra strict Christians. Then again I don’t know if that verse only applies to those in a Classroom situation onlu compared to those who around between the arival of Reps.
I could be wrong but believe “man shall not live by bread alone…” applys to all who want to apply it whether there is a rep here incarnate or not. The Next Level reps deliver the instructions … 10 commandments and other instructions through Moses, then the Jesus updates, and higher standards, as in, adultery is bumped up to even lusting in one’s heart for another when they have made that committment to another. This example in particular can be linked to the Jesus saying in one of the parables that “if we can’t be trusted with/in the things pertaining to man, then how are we going to be trusted with the things pertaining to the Kingdom in the heavens”? Ti and Do said, adultery meant ” not becoming an adult”.
(6) The Bible speaks of 2 resurrections. Is that interpreted as the 1st resurrectionas being one (a soul) who awakens and the second resurrection as that soul who graduates from a training program, seeing as how nobody can enter the NL without a guide or Rep?
Here is my interpretation to date of what is meant by Resurrection. But before I do, there are a couple terms translated to resurrection, one is “to stand up (again)” and another is to rise up.
The rising up defintion is the resurrection of the dead. Humans without seeking to be of service and thereby bonded to the current Older Member have no chance to live so are thus dead.
Now regards to “standing up again” which is what Jesus did first after having his physical body executed was to stand up again.
This applies to both the just and unjust, as all would be back (as Jesus and Ti and Do said) – the evil and the righteous that just and the unjust, the saints who gave their lives for Jesus’ word and the luciferian space alien fallen angel advasary (satans).
This return sets up the war in the heavens, a war for souls being fought as we speak.
Some will stand up again as they take vehicles that they then take to belief in the new reps while others will go against these same ones, thus they are either serving god or mammon and thus are standing up again towards LIFE (eternal) or towards Death (and in this case the second death).
So here is my best shot to date of a retranslation:
Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
When he speaks of seeing thrones, these are those who conquered/overcame their humanness and were awarded next level vehicles as they became kings as the level about human is a level of pertaining to the human kingdom all kings, having conquered the lower forces, overcome their influences.
These are spoken of in another spot as the saints whom are to return and are to exercise the final judgement(decision of who is in the book of life and who goes to the second death).
(The more I think about my last dream of seeing a group whom I knew were my classmates on the pier (by the sea) dressed in white with smallish vehicles and didn’t feel Ti or Do being physically with them and then seeing that near mercury spacecraft uncloaking on december 1, 2011, I took as confirmation that they were back, having received their new vehicles (suits, clean garments – new bodies) and feeling in awe with my vehicle a little fearful due to my still acting to some degree in human ways.)
Then it says he saw in addition to those on thrones the souls beheaded….to include all who don’t succumb to the lower forces allegience, which I believe could include those of us who stick it out in the times to come when the forces against the Next Level try to force allegience to their government/religion, etc. I’d bet there will some type of new id card that may be something tatooed or embedded, like the jews and dissidents were marked along the lines of the inquisitions to where so called people of God and their secular counterparts forced people to renounce their faith in anything they deemed heretical. I believe this may take place surrounding certain so called medical standards like in the enforcing of mandatory vaccination programs. I already know of progressive, somewhat liberal people who believe all should be forced to get vaccinated thinking that otherwise those who don’t would become carriers making it harder on those that are vaccinated, blaming their detiorating health and immune system overload on those that choose to “use food as thy medicine” more. (Just one example). I suspect this mandatory health insurance program that the Obama administration has had some success putting into place could be a forerunner to this kind of required acceptance of whatever form of medicine they deem all should have. And where did that program start; none other than current lead republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, former governor of Massachusetts where he precided over that program for the state of Massachusetts.
When it says these live and reign with Christ a 1000 years, I suspect that is saying they are actually on Do’s crew for the final stage of harvest, “garbage disposal” (a phrase Ti used even before the first meeting in Los Angeles) and planetary recycling that might include setup for the next classroom, that would all take place in one day to them, but 1000 yrs our time before the next classroom begins at which point those who are allowed to continue in whatever fashion, saved to be the next batch of advasaries to the new student body are brought back for a little season.
Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
So the “rest of the dead” are apparantly not the ones who were willing to lose their physical bodies by not sucuumbing or working for the “beast” – whoever is supporting this new world order of control over dissidents – threats to their form of law and order, religious and secular (as in the spanish inquisition, it wasn’t the actual religious (catholic) institution that brought charges and harsh deadly penalties upon the said heretics, it was the secular govn’t who I’d guess were not far different than what we see leading governments now – people that claim this or that religous affiliation in a vague kind of way according to how they were brought up to believe/affiliate and/or to largely satisfy the religious public to get elected, while not adhereing to anything that religion originally was founded upon, which all the religions and govn’t are examples of, but that can be used as a way to seperate out those who defy their authority.
At some point this form of time of great trouble will cease, it seems when the Next Level, Do and students (don’t know if Ti will be physcially present or not…it seems not according to Revelations).
Anyway I suspect these “dead” are who Jesus called the Meek, the gentle, peaceloving, remnant who regardless of whether they sought to serve the Next Level directly would provide Souls and associated genetic structures that could be restimulated to repopulate the Earth with vehicles that the returning souls could be brought back to interface with and “catch away” into the next classroom. These vehicles would not be a “match”, (a term Ti and Do used to describe the need of a vehicle to match in growth, thinking, behaviors, ways, etc.) for an incoming soul that would be taking off in it’s growth towards a graduation from where it left off when it’s vehicle died faithful to the Next Level.
Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
But since the Next Level is doing all this for the sake of the returning souls having their next classroom opportunity, they are the ones being referred to as those who the second death has no power because they have demonstrated enough faith in the Next Level to where the Next Level will not want to recycle them. I suspect the only way these are killed is if during a classroom, they drop out and become luciferian equivilents in that they renegade actively against the Next Level’s truth/info/data Words and program. Then by their own design they are geared to eventual “second death in the lake of fire”. Ti and Do said that “all who came with them from the Next Level would be returning to the next level” whether they succeeded to grow towards graduation or not. Now I suspect that means they would return to the invisible or cloaked spacecraft that is the local headquarters for the Earth garden operations but also entails some who are in operation as messengers and watchers for the next level who have not overcome all their humanness yet.
Ti and Do said that the word did go out to even those who are considered to be space aliens (I don’t know which groups) before the current civilization began that such a graduation styled program was being offerred and that the requirement to be in it, would be to leave whatever they were doing and accept that part of the task would be to lose their existing vehicle (as in a crash – Roswell, Aztec, etc., to then undercover through the spirit world find a matching to their needed growth vehicle that Ti and Do said the Next Level would help them identify, take it over when the Older Members with their vehicles announced their arrival and motis operandi to be in the classroom to overcome their remaining humanness to prove to the next level they could be trustworthy crewmembers rather than on the fence and thereby to potentially go renegade. To make this choice had a risk to these “space aliens”. They could just continue to do what they were doing for however long their vehicles might last, as humans do, or they could sacrifice that life (that perhaps might include having some type of family among their kind). Ti and Do said that they could lose even what they were giving up and not become next level members if they, while in the Earth environment without a body chose not to participate in the Next Level classroom or dropped out of it, enticed to use their influence and know how, about how the garden grows and their heightened Soul body that they had, as these had been in such a program before but didn’t make it to graduation but didn’t go against, so ended up working in the domestic type of task, however that pans out with a next level supplied vehicle that in a space environment may last a long long time (human time).
Again, I believe this is why they who “hath part in the first resurrection” shall be priests(dedicated to serving the Next Level) who work (reign) with the Older Member (Do).
(7) Do you ever regret leaving the classroom?
Yes I do regret leaving, yet at the same time, I was not learning a major lesson by staying. I’m not saying I couldn’t have learned it, and it could have been that I could have left my body as they did, which I was fully engaged in doing for a long time, and then, as some others been assigned a task that would be an opportunity to learn what I yet hadn’t. Do said that there were some in the classroom, though they were fully committed, still had more to learn before they would be provided with a Next Level vehicle.
In case you havn’t seen nor heard me talk about what this lesson was for me…
I was simply too full of myself, though I didn’t know it and in most ways didn’t act it either. In my mind, giving my life was the act of a hero, a martyr for God, a zealot and though that can be a stage, as with all things human, it wasn’t a next level attitude because it is so focused on being “seen as special”. Before Ti left she gave many students, perhaps all, I suspect, a note that contained points that Ti said if not learned sufficiently would “keep you off the spacecraft”. In other words as Do later put it…You would not be accepted on Ti’s crew as long as you hadn’t overcome/conquered these human characteristics.
I had three things on my list.
1) likes to be seen as something special
2) a little too pleased with self
3) sarcastic (mostly with humans)
That was it but I didn’t know what to make of these except for the last one. When I was at what we called an “out of craft task” meaning a job outside the classroom environment, thus among those who weren’t trying to exit the human kingdom as we saw it, then I would at times be sarcastic in regards to the behavior of some whom I worked with. For instance I would sort of lord over them with zealotry, in particular, at a job that was cooking dinner, when another cook would get all angry and start using 4 letter words with yelling at others and the waiters/waitresses, I would at times indicate they were out of place – not needing to be vulgar, etc. and I didn’t come accross to them in a helpful way, but a sarcastic way.
Ti knew of some of the instances as I reported some but in particular I was fired by a job or two as a result though perhaps there was more to it, but Ti didn’t need to see a lot of examples to know this was a weakness of mine, as I was not at the job to try to change the way others were acting, though if they were acting that way to me, it would have been a different story but still not one to be sarcastic about, as if to put them into their place, while I held the higher ground.
After I left for a period of time I remember being critical of Ti’s telling me I like to be seen as special. I recall thinking…”no Ti I want to BE special, not be seen as special, and what’s wrong with that”.
It was nearly 10 years after I left that I woke up to what Ti was saying.
Here it is the reason I fell off the sexual abstinance wagon by allowing thoughts that resulted in masturbation was because I had screamed to Ti (while Ti was outside the vehicle she’d had – what was diagnosed as liver cancer that started in her eye several years before she left), that I wanted a task like Do’s, like Jesus had. I had become so full of myself from working so closely with Do on so many tasks, helping fellow students, being the overseer of groups of fellow students in the 1994 2nd public face to face offerring of the info, doing a bunch of the speaking on video’s and in public meetings and on TV and Radio and for news articles and helped edit Rob Balch’s book on behalf of Do and was in someways looked up to for my self control (though I always was far more permissive of my eyes and thoughts at time in regards to sensuality/sexuality), though in someways I also accomplished a great deal in that discipline. However I didn’t realize that Ti and Do’s crew were regulating how much temptation I was explosed to, which I did have several times I became privy to understanding. I knew at least in theory, but from my own experience that if Ti turned up the heat, I could be brought to my knees with my self discipline so when I inside my head demanded of Ti that I have a more challenging task, it was like saying the task I had was too easy so lay it on me, which wasn’t a negative to request, but I was doing so with a type of arrogance. Having the thirst to grow faster and serve more is great but that’s not where my head was entirely as I was operating for me, for my sense of heightening my self importance/value status. This wasn’t the first time but I didn’t see this until way after the fact.
But it wasn’t even hours after I screamed to Ti to demand faster growth and a task like Do had,
(that I was not even remotley capable of handling because I had no idea what influences/discarnates he was regularily subject to – I did have some experience with knowing when you become a figurehead, as in any human organization as well, there are more that want what you have so there is completition and so one must build a skin to handle the associated stresses of popularity, not to mention what one gets when lots of people hate you and wish you were dead, which Ti and Do both received mostly indirectly via thoughts and feelings from relatives of their students as well as all the criticisms from students and students discarnate influences, Luciferian advasaries – They are legitimately being attacked around the clock with doubts about who they are and what they are responsible for – as Do wrote in 88Update, “not a day went by that I didn’t question my sanity”. Ti and Do told us they ran off our influences from us often. They knew which thoughts were the influences that focused on them from the ones that were from their students. The ones from students were not that hard to run off but it’s like being in a forest full of mosquitos – after a long day of bombardment it’s exhausting as anyone with a mentally stressful job can attest to. Well their jobs was mental stress to the enth degree as they were not at all satisfied with themselves. They were always seeking how to help each student with their overcoming and how to move the overcall classroom to their next step which entailed physical considerations as well as how each student will respond – not wanting to lose them while not wanting to short them on what they needed to experience either, helping them make up theri own minds about what they wanted, the classroom or something in the world. If people knew to what lengths Ti and Do went to be sure each student genuinly to the best of their abilty wanted to do, they’d have no choice but to be in awe of these two and yet one would see any sign of this with Ti and it was only after Ti left that we saw the toll this took on Do, though how he rose above the weights each time)
that I was having sexual images in my head that I didn’t seem to have any abilty to stop or limit or distract myself from. I didn’t even seem to have the energy to want to stop them so at that moment I was out of control, when I thought I was so in control.
And yet after Do noticed how I’d become distant from him and I told him what I was doing, which was perhaps a week into regular masturbastion He asked me what I wanted to do and how he could help. I said, I needed to expose my breaking of vows/instructions to my fellow students, a regular occurance throughout the classroom and then at one point Do said to the group about me, that perhasp the hardest lesson any of us can have is failure. But at that point it was like I wasn’t even there and though in our “major/minor offense list” my actions and the deceit of hiding it were both grounds to be dismissed from the classroom, to which Do said, because I wasn’t threatening others with my loss of self control and because he said I had a lot to offer the Next Level so didn’t want to “throw me away”….that can sound harsh but in reality he had at that point 30 something other students that he was for his Older Member Ti responsible to bring through their individual birth canal. If any one student jeopardized another classmate’s viable birth or the mission, then that one was expendible, meaning they would be dismissed and given a plane ticket to where they wanted to do, usually with the option of coming back should they want to take a new stab at their overcoming process, which actually did happen with 19 students once sort of that way, but with 2 others with exactly that kind of ultimatum – that they needed to leave but if they wanted to tackle the lesson that caused them to be dismissed they would be accepted back. And we had a half way house for a while as well.
So now I’m in this semi-comfortable position. I’ve pushed past my fears of getting reinvolved which took years and began to be public with my experiences for the last 10 years, escalating more and more with a number of what I feel are contacts from Ti and from Do and from various classmates in dreams and in a sense of a open phone line and in theory I’m prepared to lose my life to this task, (though I doubt anyone takes it seriously enough to want to do away with the likes of me), yet at the same time I know I can offer Do more but feel for the moment I’m still doing what he’d have me do. But I’m very clear that in the not too distant future some major changes will take place that will make the 9/11 attack that brought endlenss war with no tangible enemy (the red horse) and endless financial crisis weights and balancing (the black horse) that will make it very unwise to be seen as soliciting new cult members (which I am not, but that’s never believed fully by those who know nothing about Ti and Do’s efforts), yet I must continue and when the internet becomes too restrictive in so doing (if that is what takes place eventually) then I know I must go on the road with the information, even church to church which can sound like a noble effort to some and to me in times past – you know that martyr/zealot syndrome that I don’t want to do, but I would not be able to just live out my vehicles days keeping what I know about Ti and Do bottled up.
So in some ways I do wish I would have stayed with them and left with them as I thought I was ready to do but as I have some roots reestablished that are often fragile, I do feel further testing of my resolve and trust in Ti and Do will present itself which I really don’t feel that strong to deal with, but all I need to do is ask Do for help and I will get it but then I have to impliment that help. I still have the same lessons to face and in a way they are harder now, having failed once.

Ti and Do’s uniqueness – The only Kingdom of God REAL Jesus Cult of cults

February 3, 2012

I’ve been having a continuous discussion with someone named Sameul who initially was telling me about INRI which I have posteed about. Here is our most recent exchange that perhaps some might benefit from:
Here is Sameul’s email:

Check this site out, Sawyer (about the evidences that Jesus story was based on the Caesar cult):

http://www.carotta.de/

This is the channel by that ‘Jesus Christ Man 666’ who claims that in less than 151 days from now he and his owns will be isolated in their building protected against radiation and with cosmetics etc, and the world will be devastated by nuclear explosion, and they’ll be transformed into bodies of lights (he says only Paul, apart from Jesus, of course, was right, taught the true Grace and the right way) and he’s gonna rule the world as the global governor and they’ll be like angels, having ‘atomic radioactive bodies’ etc (seems to be masonic trap as he discourses on altars whose floors are masonic checkered floors):

http://www.youtube.com/user/ElGobiernodeDios

They’ll probably drop it on the Vatican, his videos and talks at least evidences that. He is that one who has the 666 tattooed and all his followers have too. Her in Brazil lots of old ladies and families are tattooing it and following him, for me he is just a masonic tool and they’ll probably try to make the holocaust this year of 2012 indeed while hidden in their bunkers, see that all those bastards have their bunkers, even Gates and those guys have theirs at the North Pole etc (low temperature would be helpful after the heat and later they’d be already habituated to the ‘nuclear winter’, just my deduction).

Thy say that they answer any question with his wisdom in less than 3 days, I send them my questions and points last week and they couldn’t answer until now, cos they don’t know anything in truth, the Beast, if the spiritual exists etc, of course, is the ‘Pope’, his name is 666, VICARIVS FILLI DEI equals 666 and means ‘in the place of the Son of God’, that’s the Beast, and in the ‘Pope’ only all the prophecies of the Beast are fulfilled – and that’s why I still give a chance to spirituality, there are evidences -, so when that guy teaches that he was Jesus and is the 666 it seems to be all bullshit.

http://www.creciendoengracia.com/

http://www.cegenglish.com/

Seems to be really wicked stuff.
*** end of Sameul’s email ***

Here is Sawyer’s response: (I know there will be alot of repeat for some who follow this blog but I believe there are things that felt new to me so hopefully I was pulling on Do’s mind to come up with):

I guess it really all boils down to making a choice of who seems most genuine and believable. I’ve made mine, though I do like hearing all the variations that are out and about, in a sense that is, because they all seem so contrived to me. All seem to take their few scriptures or wild interpretations that are not based on the facts (in the cases where people are using the historic records (scripture and related, not limited exclusively to the Bible, but the Bible does have the greatest consistant grasp). For instance many say the Woman in rev 12 is the church(body of believers) and a woman is referenced in another rev scripture that is actually explained as the church by the messenger delivering this info to john, which is what we often see in the jesus record and including revelations that the deliverer does explain some of the symbology, like jesus explains some some of the parables/stories/proverbs, like the seed spreader for instance. But in the rev 12 it’s clearly not the church because the church can’t give birth to the male child that gets caught up to the throne, thus becomes a king. Prophecy is provided for a function, not for entertainment or to build mystery. It is mysterious only because or until we see to what it is most likely referring. Among the entire bible, there was only one time in 19 years that Do (not Ti, though Ti was present when Do did this, which is typical of the way, they would not talk about themselves, (with the one exceptin of declaring who they felt they were in prophecy – the two witnesses, which they never went verse by verse to descipher, though they did expect to be literally killed and resurrected), held a meeting to where he went through verse by verse Rev 12 telling us that he felt this, woman was Ti but I don’t actually recall what he said in the verse by verse and I don’t know if that meeting was recorded, as we did generally record most meetings. They did refer to Jesus a bunch but not at all as in any church group and not with all that bowin and scrapin love love love balony. In fact once Ti burst out laughin when the shroud of turin was on the news, making a big stink over it and Ti said, “why are they making such a big stink over the snot rag Jesus used”. They never acted holy or righteous and moreorless except for their last task in human earth bodies had no symbology. They took everythng Jesus said literally when it was clear it was literal, which christians can’t stand, an indicator of who the christaisn really serve. This is one huge proof that it wasn’t a made up story as if it had been then the groups that formed around it would be consistant with sticking to the story, yet they don’t stick to the story hardly at all, except for the biggest generalities like “for god so loved the world….whoever believes in him…has everlasting life, though it said “may” have everlasting life and the word translated as belief really connotates trust as welll and in many other passages doing,keeping Jesus sayings, all of them, which as we know few even consider and those that do twist it, to making it into a “path” and heirarchy while incorporating many things jesus said nothing about that we have in record, like the monks/nuns who Ti and Do called muns and nunks – they often had these funny expressions that poked fun on all the false piety.
There would be no reason to twist a story inside and out if it’s just a story and why is it also that the root story is repeated in different cultures, even most. I know that movie zeitgeist really thought they had a win idea to point out the way different cultures had the same story…virgin birth, star, astrologers, etc., yet did they even consider that the Kingdom of God doesn’t reinvent the wheel every time they setup and maintain/develop the garden’s soul crop. Look at the other mythlogical stories. They are not filled with contraversy even among would be believers. Why all the contraversy…well because the Next Level allows the luciferians to do what they do to shroud the truth in half truths inuendo’s and outright lies and deceitfulness, as then it will force those who have living seed in their genetic structure because they in that structure (as humans are like leaves on a branch) They die and that spirit is released, but each leaf isn’t dependant on living only if that spirit incarnates – each leaf is actually a spirit maker as it’s all stored, even all our memories in the genetic code, so when the next level sends it’s reps the recognition of those reps surfaces to the degree of it’s experience, so those who’s ancesters were actualy in a face to face relatinship with Jesus, most clearly recognize his return when they hear his voice, (what they say, as they would also anticipate someone coming who worked with the father in the same way), and had all the other characteristics to include big time, their ways of thinking/acting that represented the qualifications they would need to measure up to, to reap the rewards though are given many, many opportunities to do so as long as they keep asking for help and trying to implement that help. And these would be a small number.
Isn’t it interesting that from the first meeting in Los angeles, the city of god’s angels, a root meaning of Jerusalem (though there are several), some 12 to 15 participants left all behind to follow them, (even though they weren’t anticipating having followers because the rev. 11 picture indicated they would prophesize, though other scriptures did indicate there were children (rev 6, the rider of the white horse has a liter of new borns in his hand – he was working to help them each conquer to be born, as indicated in many places was needed to be in the first harvest). Then they proceeded to san francisco bay area where the 60’s explosion of conscious hit crescendo, then up to waldport oregon, the forest/wilderness port, (all by the sea, as prophesized) where I joined and 26 others who needed no decisoin making process – just knew this was what I wanted, though I had been (as the others) a seeker of all truthes for that last 7 years or more and was far from naively swept off my feet I had been a hippie acid eating, hitchiking all over north america, wilderness woodsman, musician, shacked up with a jewish girl from a turkish family,since I was 16 or so. (not that that’s a big deal, but it’s simply not what we were portrayed to be. Then they headed to colorado and picked up aother 24 from 6 simultansouls meetings and on to chicago where the news of the waldport dissappreaences was supposedly solved when they figured out who the these mystereriou Two named bo and peep were, 2 middle aged ordinay folk, a nurse of premature babies and an astrologer (rev 12) and opera singer (the song relatinship of rev 14) who had served jail time for a misunderstanding for car theft when an early believer gave them a credit card to use that her husband reported stolen…So the media on national TV, the commons as in rev 11, shot down their authenticity in their minds, appearing to kill (greed apokteino = kill in ANY Way, hault, stop) which it did as Ti and Do were in las vegas which they called Lost Wages, and felt stopped because they thought they would have no credabilty due to their criminal record while they realized but it took them 3 days to pick themselves up and proceed with their task (rev 11) (the translators put alot of their own words in that chapter in particular which is researchable, and was based on translating apokteino as “kill”.
But what I’m leading to here is that by chicago there were 70 who had stayed on thought that, in fact most of those who hooked up and what number is in the original jesus group – 70. Coincidence, well the so called coincidences go on and on and on and on and on.
This national announcement caused Ti adn Do to split the 70 into 6 groups of about 12 each (Ti and Do’s group had only 6 students, from the LA meeting), which is in propecy that the flock was scattered but the story remained in the new with it’s UFO TWO title in I’d bet every newspaper in the US. So it was BIG news and the news continued for nearly a year with major stories in time, newsweek, psychology today, ny times did a full page picture of bo and peep in a huge magazine section that ti and do felt was the most objective report done. Brad Steiger famous sci fi writer engaged with bo and peep to write a book and it was entitled, “UFO missionarires extraordinare” but Peep and Bo, who later took names Ti and Do respectively (with the core students) didn’t like the way the book was done. And there as a movie made about them called The Mysterious Two, in which John Forsyth played Do and he was a very well known and respected actor but the movie was a dismal portral, that by the way had a flute player in it and as far as I know I was the only one who brought a flute with me when I joined, thinking I could sell it on the road, which I did and bought a $100 car that lasted a couple weeks.
Then after some groups split up and lost contact with bo and peep (me and my assigned partner, assigned by bo and peep, ended up criss crossing the US many tijmes by thumb mostly goign town to town and finding a free library room to hold a meeting, getting posters donated, getting preachers to help us with food and in some cases lodging), which brought us to Texas, and in particular to Corpus Christi where Ti was from, though I didn’t know that, but also to Houston where Do spent his adult years working in theater with friends like dan rather and others who became hollywood stars, as he was a profession opera singer and was a choir director/music director, pianist, etc. and where I went to this party because my partner named dandy then, knew people in houston so we visited with them and went to one of their christmas parties where a woman told he she knew marshall applewhite and said, he had “wandering hands”, like that was in indicator that he was not who he said he was, as that was before Ti awakened him to as Ti said, “get you going”, Ti leavigjn first which Do was always puzzeled about, wondering if she meant she would return to her husband and family (children) they’d left behind, but when Ti left her vehicle before the entire task had completed he then knew what she knew but didn’t express/know the details about. (They knew lots of things but didn’t have detailed explanations of what they meant, until it was time to understand them for students sake. They couldn’t be too far ahead of the students as the overcomign process is a very intricatly guilded one, student by student, that I could write 1000 pages about that would further demonstrate how very different and unique these two were above and beyond anythng normally considered human and beyond all the teachers before them with the excepton of Jesus who was just as unique and beyond human in his teachings.
This beyond human is yet another big characteristic of the jesus story that could not be made up because humans don’t know what could really be beyond human yet jesus was very clearly looking at all thngs physical as needing to be overcome to qualify to go wtih him into outer space with a new flesh like body – the reason the father healed that body enough to hang out for 40 days so that the 300 by then according to paul had a real proof they could not deny to then take that body into a cloud of light(spacecraft).
They said they came from outer space, the literal heavens, thus out of the clouds by crashing some of their spacecraft (that domestics like luciferians, who wanted to go thoruugh a final exam by overcoming their remaining humanness) and included sacrificign their physical bodies KNOWING they woudl not be dead in order to do an undercover task (theif in the night(spirit world) take over (incarnate) of prepared human bodies, which can be found in the scriture that “stars would fall from the sky” – there were sightings of the spacecrafts that crashed in roswell before the crash and when you add up the body count of all the bodies in all the crashes worldwide, which one may have been in Brazil actually, the number is just over 100 and the first one was one body found in TEXAS of all places.
This is more evidence that the US was the location for the new jerusalem and I have a lot of circumstantial proves of that.
but it was in corpus christi where I saw a UFO. that with a bright light the size of the brightest star one could imagine (not the sun though) made a Z shape in 3 seconds that had straight right angles to the Z, not diagnol as this one appears and made these at lightening speed, changing directions twice and it wasn’t a tiny Z. It was huge in height and length. I was not really a follower of UFO’s when I joined. I don’t know why this was shown to me but I could feel that there were people inside it.
So while travelign apart from any group for months I screamed to the heaven’s to the Next Level who we were taught to pray to at that time asking where they were and a couple days later I wandered into a library in oklahoma city where Ti and Do were giving a meeting and it may have been the meeting that Ti announced “the harvest is closed”, and all the groups that had been organized and were in concert with Ti and Do finished up what meetings they had planned and we were all told to meet at a wyoming national forest (where close encounters staged the alien arrival that came out maybe a year after we were initially there, though we went down to texas for that first winter as Ti announced this in april which is very, very close, in days/weeks at the most to 3 1/2 yrs of prophecy as in rev. 11 and niether ti nor do held another public meettign thereafter. Students had meetings in 1993/4 but Do didn’t speak at any of them.
In wyoming there were about 96 members to my recollection but there might have been a few that were not in wyoming then as Do said “about 100” were there if I recall. That number of 100 was somewhere in prophecy but I forget at the moment but my entire point is that it’s a small group that are in the first harvest as that number began to be whittled down by ti and do. That first winter when we lelft wyoming ti and do seperated out 19 of the studetns and told the 79 or so (as a few others left by then) that they made the first cult, unheard of in cult circles another of the many unique behaviors that did not end there. Do offerred students who had been with him from the beginning and this was in 1988 or 9 $1000 if they wanted to leave the group. One ended up taking him up on it but I don’t know that the money was the factor as there were many challenges and people left and sometiems were able to rejoin over the years until there were about 24 students when we began to once again provide a public offerring, though not in person until 1/1/94, probably the 24 elders as there were probably 12 women who were just as close to jesus as the 11 or so men were, out of the 70, though women then in society couldn’t get away with an external support of such a man as jesus was.
What this all boils down to, is that all your pursuits and your ability to see through all the charlatans shows that you are an avid seeker of truth, but you will have to lay that all aside and decide if Ti and Do are worth taking a leap of faith towards, which you are when you study everything they said and did as most depicted in the heavensgate.com site and the beyond human videos xfchecker97 has just made available again and the exit videos’ they made so there would be little opportunitey to questin that these were voluntarily destroying their “temples” like the butterfly leaving the cocoon that the catepillar provided, a Ti and Do depiction that made popular the term metamorhosis, as the luciferians grab onto everything the Next level reps do and get humans to make them popular to lose their originality. You will see everyone and their brother using the phrease, “Next Level” – as take it to the next level, which was coined by Ti in 1975. Plus Ti and Do were the first ones to desribe the next level as a scientifically advanced group from outer space (but not space aliens as we think of them now) and were the first to be clear that they had physical bodies of a kind while on their spacecrafts and labs in their crew minded environments. And Ti and Do were the first to describe the overcoming process as one of evolving into a new evolutionary kingdom as compared with human, animal, plant and mineral – all degrees of life forms even as building blocks for more evolved life forms.
Then there are all the firsts that occurred in the US that got their legs while Ti and Do were getting together (1972-3-5) which are when many of the false prophets arose as well. I don’t mean to sound nationalistic which ti and do certainly were not, but I would be very surprise to hear that brazil even comes close in all these regards. Now I’m not saying they aren’t at this time having extraordinary growth there but INRI from what I’ve seen doesn’t stand out as anythng at all special or unique in what he says or does. This stuff about coming in the clouds being flying around on an airplane. The pope does that so does that mean he’s fulfilling that prophecy.
I have tried to give you all I can of what amounts to concrete evidences and I have missed dozens and even hundreds of things that I encountered that make a reality of the overcomoign process not just something to sing about along with all the hypocrisies of all these false prophets who come looking like sheep but are wolves, sly and deceitful to entrap souls (not that they are conscious in doing so, because they, as they gain popularity, that some get from havign ufo/alien abduction/contactee stories that have lots of accurate depictions of certain ways the governments and religoius groups act so attract many and the luciferian fallen space alien angels who stimulate these abductions/contacts/channels then assist those that gain some popularity so they can infect many more with their lies and deceit.
But those like you know you can’t subscribe to any of these cause you see through them, though have examined so many and in such detail that it leaves you subject to another form of corruption, that of becoming a seeker that sabatoges “finding” that most precious pearl that one has to cash in all that they have to have. (jesus parable). Is anyone else teachign to cash it all in, even theri physical life. Jesus did and so did Ti and Do yet Ti and Do could explain in a plain way, why this is necessary as Ti will not let anyone to join her crew. She doesn’t need anyone (she is not a she in the next level). She is doing us new potential crew members a favour to open up positions on her crew so she wants only those that she can count on to do the job HER way or the highway because her way is her Older Members way that she knows from countless experience is tried and true but is still open to improvement that she may be the instrument of surfacing on behalf of her older member as she does her tasks and reports back the results.
Now Do is actually creating his crew now so that’s really the most immediate crew to which you can still apply though it’s a sub crew off of Ti his Older Members crew. Their tasks have so much detail and have so many challenges for crew members and so much participartory joy in the performing, it can hardly be imagined but the only ways in which we get a feel for such, which is very short lives and inconsistant and pertinent to near valueless endeavours on the human level, are the way humans work together and have that feeling of beign a part of something they know is much biggerr than themselves to the degree that they don’t mind being simply a spoke in that wheel.
The wheel genuinely needs every spoke to do the best service it can fulfill. To an outsider each spoke looks the same and doesn’t seem to be needed but if you take one out, the stresses on the rest of the wheel increases the potential for that wheel to fail in it’s maximum function.
There really is no individuality in the human kingdom as we in these vehicles are really just time shared computer systems. when we sweep out all the discarantes seeking to share time in our brain and with our activities then we are like little children. Humans,none of them are trustworthy entirely. The Next Level members are thus to become such a member we need to show the one we recognize to be the current rep from the Next level that we are trustworthy.
For those that did not have the opportunity to be with Ti and Do face to face, they have lost nothing in havign that same opportunity. They can begin their interface now and can grow it as fast as they wish and they can technically pass up even their older Member (that is if the older Member didn’t continue to grow as fast as they can which is a basic characteristic of every member of the Next Level so is mostly a technical or theorectical chance). But for a more practical example, in case it appear that I who had a physcial relationshuip with both Ti and Do, as I am not a member of the next level yet and may not be giving my all, so though I can talk from memory about all this and understand a great deal about it and have some self discipline in my life and do seek to do tasks for my older member and do ask help to escalate my service (as we can ask them to help us have the strength to even ask them for help more), there is no reason that you would’t be quicly passing me (using me as an example, though I (we) are not in competition. We measure ourselves agaisnt our Older Member of which if you decide to start talking to and looking to will have the same Older Member so we are thereby crew members though as you’d proceed in offerring of service, at this time we are all in dissemination of ti and do info mode, not that anyone can’t do all the overcoming they can/want but as new believers/disciples of Do seek to know how he would say this or what he would do in this circumstance, it would be natural to see if someone (and there are others like Carlan (crlody) that are activeily serving the Next Level who had experience with Do and then there are fellow new believers that have asked many questions of myself and/or carlan, so have certain potential answers, thus you would naturally want to pick the brain of other’s experiences in this regard but certainly don’t have to. We don’t ever need to be in touch hereafter as you could begin to talk to Do and start to feel when He is responding. Remember he doesn’t wow us with a vision like paul got. He doesnj’t come to us as a booming voice in the head, like a channeler and he doesn’t land his spacecraft to abduct us to make us a contactee. Nonetheless, He definitly responds but it’s mostly in a way, your vehicle will continue to be uncertain or tempted to make more of it than it was.
There are a few rules they taught us in the classrom pertaining to taking irreversible actions: If in doubt don’t. They will never tell you what to do until you are brought back to a physical classroom so have a face to face relationship and you let them know in certain terms that you want them to tell you what to do and how to do it and how to have the strenght to do it continuously, while they will still not take advantage of you in this way and will still require you to regularily restate your desire in both word and deed. They don’t make assumptions. What you see/hear is what you get with them. They dont’ beat around the bush. And we don’t set up our own test circumstances. We ask them to put us to the test if we want to move faster to which they will provide us with what they know we can handle if we ask them for help as we go.
This will never, ever be popular and there will always be a great deal of persecution for believign in them and talking about them. There is no formula that states to be in their servcie you must stand on the corner and talk about ti and do to the public. You may do that but you may not. I have and I do so while I play music but the main way we serve is by asking to be led to circumstances in a town where there might be a potential new believer and then if something occrus to you to try, (that’s not obviously dangerous or compromising of all the previous laws given from the Next Level), take a step, even a baby step in that direction and you might find you meet someone who you feel to give a little gold nuget to and see if they want more. They may be taken aback by you and they may get angry but the task isn’t to convert another. The task is to share the information which can often meant entering into debate as in a sense I have been doing here and I’ve done with many.
I have nothing I do that is stock. I have written the same things many, many, even hundreds of times to differnet people and it could seem like a waste of time. But I don’t think it is. I am trying to give you what my Older Member might me give you specifiedally right now. Sure I’ll be covering the same info and topics but it will be taylored to you in intention. I have little doubt that there is an Older next level student in soul form around you at this time and has probably been around you for a long time, even yiears who was guiding you to look at this and that while not committing to anything until you found what they knew to be the ultimate direction. But you are not them. You are like me, the decider. I have a soul doing the same thing with me, but I don’t try to converse with that soul as that would be opening the door to the advasary soul that is also around me and you, to pose as the next level. They can even come to us in dreams. I had a number of dreams where Do came to me to answer specific questions and it felt like Do to me because my vehicle and brain of course knew Do and have a degree of bond with him or else I could not be doing what I am trying to do. Then one day I had a dream and it seemed like Do (seemed?) but the message was unclear. Do would not come to me with an unclear message. That doesn’t mean when we do have a contact with Do and/or someone assigned to interface with us that we will automatically understand everything they relay. It’s just not by my experience and in observation of the way Ti andDo talked about and demonstrated their ways of “checking” and double checking the source of the info, that’s it’s without a certain amount of “chewing” on what they give us and enacting in our lives something related to what they give us, often seeing after the fact what they were leading us to. We are trying to establish a foolproof remote communication, but it takes lots of effort and time and experiences working with it to have that and we still never assume we have it, (while in a human kingdom). In a next level enviroment this will be the ordinary way to communicate, by thoughts and there won’t be any missunderstnandngs or thoughts received. It will be that clear. But in the testing ground we need to grow into that. I have expereinced some of that and perhaps you have as well. I’m not using myself in any of these examples to have you look to me in any way but only to share what I feel I’ve been given. I do make mistakes but I’ve notices over years of doing this that I get stopped in my tracks, while typing even each word if I am misleading. This is why I talk so much it overbearing. I’m trying to close gaps while I know I open them up all the time and leave loose ends galore and overstate things you probablty are way ahead of my on, dont’ need to hear again, but I just don’t know.
I do know that I thought while with Ti and Do that I was a pretty good listener and I was assigned to very responsible tasks working for Do as an overseer, even of an entire “craft” (what Ti andDo called the house we lived in) that had a body of students living /working out of (as at times we had 2 or 3 big houses so Ti and Do could give slighly differnet lessons to different students, though it was very easy to think one was filled with all the more advanced students, which sometime did seem to be the case, while at other times a student that needed the test of being “in charge” was assiged an overseer task to see how he would perform it. I suspect that was why I was assigned an overseer task – because I (my vehicle) wanted to be seen as somethng special so they gave me a way to feel special, though it could have also served multiple services for the next level as perhaps I was able to provide some of the overseeing that Do wanted. The next level often has a number of things to gain from any one decision, one of which is in the improvement of would be new crewmembers, the primary task we were learning while in the physical experiential “classroom” with our older member(s).
I’m worn out but I hope for your sake you will give Ti and Do a chance. It does not benefit me for you to do so. I don’t go to carlan or xf and say, I got one. That would be a human way I believe. But I do have a sense when my Older Member is smiling at me though I could be wrong about that feeling at times too as I do have a vehicle that has an ego and other weaknesses.

Q & A with quotes from Ti Do’s book The Transfiguration Diet published in 1986 about the Three “I’s”

February 1, 2012

Question to Sawyer:
Hi, its been a while.

ollody mentions a book his vehicle read when he was younger.
That would be a “memory”
My question to you is, in overcoming human..wouldnt memories of your vehicle tie you down to human, and seperate you from your heavenly father?
Do speaks about using (either) “I” or “me” in one of the beyond human videos if i am not mistaken.
How it causes separation from your heavenly father correct?
How does that cause seperation but identifying with a memory doesnt? What is the difference between remembering something your vehicle did in the past,
and remembering something “i” or “me” did in the past?
thanks for your time.
Sawyer’s response:
Ollody was with his Heavenly Father (Do) and had spent the last 22 years overcoming his vehicle’s human attachments and what he was recalling wasn’t going to stimulate a breaking of the bond he’d formed with his Older Member. Now theorectically, if he began to think about his vehicles family connections and the emotional roots they all hold, even pro or con, then he would be opening the door that if continued by continuously entertaining such thinking about the past, then it could lead to seperation from his relationship with Do.
The entire “process” of overcoming our humanness has degrees. It’s like having an addiction, mentally, physically, emotinally to another person, creature, place or thing as in substances and behaviors – sexuality, etc. to break that pattern the best way to do it is cold turkey of body and then in our minds.
Breaking away, which begins when the Older member blows their trumphet to announce their presence and reinstates the requirements to be in their overcoming process/program comes upon those selected vehicles rather suddenly and with extra help from the Older Member’s physical presence and the returning Soul who had particated from an unseen position to choose the particular human vehicle that would best match the provision of the experience they needed in particular to complete their metamorphic “overcoming/conquering of humanness” program.
As we went in the classroom, some of the strict disciplines were relaxed. We had more flexability with our diet. We were sent to movies that sometimes had some sexualty and nudity. We were sent to be with our vehicles families over two weekends in 1985 and 1987. These things are still tests of our resolve and mental/physical self control and some did slip in their self discipline because of these opportunities, but it’s in the process of taking one step forward and one back and then two forward and hopefully only one back, that we are actually working what Ti called a “muscle” the muscle of our mental will, which is what Ti and Do said we actually were. We were the choice mechanism that decided what to let into our personal solar system and what to keep out.
I know of at least one classmate who was there from 1975 to 1989 who after the 2nd visit to families decided he wanted to leave and he was given a plane ticket to do so. I don’t know if he was given cash, but I was given a plane ticket and $600 in cash and I had a place to stay where I went, with some who were asked to leave the classroom because they didn’t want to try to learn a big aspect of the lesson plan.
Now regarding use of I or me. As with everything given to us by the Level Above Human representatives we can find it hard to know when to apply certain standards and can be awkard in doing so until we learn the lesson behind it. I spoke to Do many times as “I” feel this or think that. It was important to know when it was the vehicle talking and when it was that switch that was building it’s own identity that would be a graft to the vine of the Older Member’s tree of life.
But as in the Beyond Human series, Do spoke as “we” when he was sitting on Ti’s right hand, which incidentally was where Do positioned his chair next to Ti in most meetings they gave. I don’t know if he was consciously fulfilling prophecy, which was possible, but I can’t recall he ever said anything about doing so for the sake of prophecy, though even if he had done that to align with Prophecy, they do that for our sakes as they know, because of our suseptability to the voices of influences(discarnates) and our assigned advasary(satan) that was allowed to be our advasary to help us build that mind muscle it can help us to see the historic record of what They said/did last time coming to pass, as only they understand what would have been meant by such prophecy…”you will see the son of man coming sitting on the right side of power…”.
No humans I am aware of suggest that the Two Witnesses would be the FAther and son(jesus) return or for that matter the so called “second coming”. That’s for several reasons, one of which is that the Luciferians wouldn’t want people to be thinking in that way, as when they then came, he would have a harder time shooting them down. Secondly the Luciferians don’t want anyone to think of the Father as another real person. Thirdly they don’t want either of them thought of as physical beings and forth they don’t want people to take much of what they say whether in dreams to John or in the writings by those who spent significant time with the rep as literal. They’d much rather have us think that the Kingdom of God is a mystery, an esoteric spiritual state of mind and to the things that they have no idea about how they could be literal because of their skewed ideas of who Jesus really was and what his motis operandi was they assign figurative or metaphores to those aspects that otherwise confuse/confound them. The result is that people in general either think the entire Jesus story is a myth or so distorted one can’t trust any of it or that he came to bring peace (yes, peace of mind in knowing you’ve found the ultimate path off the top of the mountain and peace in terms of the way we treat one another and a disdain for humans killing humans, but in terms of what new students would encounter when they adhere to Their instructions/requirements to be their disciple, would be causing huge disruption in every family group that couldn’t buy that this was who they said they were, who their loved ones were giving their lives to, as in a feared cult) and that belief alone is the overcomign and ticket to the harvest rewards, or that just belonging to this or that organization and going through certain rituals demonstrates to God one’s resolve. (though all of these organizations to include secular humanist and athesist and all religions all have their own validity as a pathway though can only at best help an human arrive at the top of the mountain – still a human being while only the Above Humamn beings can provide the only way off the top of the mountain, and that mountain includes all the human equivilent space aliens who some at best have physical vehicles that can live a lot longer than earth humans yet are still temporary and still need all that humans need and often remain unsatisfied, though become programmed to coast due to those who do acheive significant degrees of comfort and self worth – looking to Mammon(human treasures, financial, possessions, social intellectual, artistic, spiritual standing).
But the beauty of this design, that permits and even provides those souls who by their own will want to create these illusions that in many ways they actually don’t think are illusions because of how they allowed such to overtake their minds in classrooms past, is that those who have living seed still in them, just have to keep that seed alive by not discounting, even when they have many unanswered questions. (that’s yet another illusion that if they were the FAther and Jesus returned then how come they didn’t know certain things or everything for that matter). Ti and Do always had unanswered questions and all along there were things that puzzled them about what they were observing. They always said that they knew the things pertinent to their task to bring the classroom to their graduation while knowing there were additional tasks other members of the Next Level were doing, that time and time again they would see signs of in society and world events.
However, the point in not referring to self as I this or that is in the recognition that we don’t often know which “I” is speaking alongside the recognition of what came from our Older Member. In the case of Do, he only wanted to share what he received from Ti, (though he and Ti worked as equal parts of a partnership on this task, though Do recognized that she was the older, wiser, more experienced part of the partnership, so would regularily seek clarifications and understanding and a check from Ti, while there were tasks that Ti knew Do was more adept in, namely in communicating to the student body, as Do was closer to the station of growth of that student body, having taken a vehicle that could identify more with that student body, having experienced in that vehicles lifetime all of the salient points that could/would challenge a student to overcome to better assist them from a postition of current practical experience in his getting out of those same human behaviors and conditions and do so using the venacular the student body would identify with. This is the reason the Older Members need to incarnate rather than just show up on the white house lawn or appear to Paul as a blinding light to tell him what to do.
But in respect to the use of “I”, etc., like I said, we don’t often know which “I” is speaking which is something Do addressed in a book Do and students published (that began, so did involve Ti in it’s construction) in 1986, entitled, “The Transfiguration Diet”. This book was published by a company set up as “littlegreen inc’s think tank” that marked the classroom’s experimentation with food as fuel, overcoming aspects of our dietary likes and dislikes while providing the vehicle with an optimal health program, as They did not not for now long we would need to use these vehicles and wanted them to be the best tools they could be for us. After the book was published and a brief period of trying to sell the books, which I used to do on my lunch breaks around Dallas, Texas, when I had what we called an “out of craft task”, a job working for those outside the classroom whom we referred to as humans, (but not meant in any disrespect, though recognizing that we were in a program that was designed to evolve us out of the human kingdom and into the Evolutionary Level Above Human). Within a year of writing this book which largely came about throught the study of Dr. Christopher’s musousless diet system that was largely the result of the work of early nutritional pioneer, Arnold Ehret, the group sold the book to Dr. Christopher’s son who made it available to book dealers but I have no idea whether it can be found any longer.
I must bring to everyone’s attention that this was written largely in 1985-6. Should anyone research the concepts contained within, having to do with the genetic structure and it’s computer like operation one will see that Ti and Do were miles ahead of their time. I’m not saying there was no one publishing things about genes and computers and/or equating them to silicone computer systems (though Personal computers had only been on the market for less than a decade by then – (we had an Apple II E in 1983 or so). But I’d wager that it would have been very few and far between in the science community to find anyone associating the mind as something tangible that became stored in “pockets” within the structure of the genes as Ti and Do relayed in this chapter. For those that are looking for tangible proof of who Ti and Do were, this could be one such proof that they were at the very least some very exceptional and gifted visionaries that combined with all else they said and did must cause any inquiring soul a great deal to seriously consider before writing off as not being who they said they were.
Also I want to mention that Ti and Do were always seeking more and more clarifications of most everything they understood. It’s like when reading the historic record attributed to representatives from the Level Above Human (Kingdom of God) and seeing something that feels like a revelation of understanding to us. It can seem like we now understand that verse and is exciting. Yet, because of the great overview of members of the Next Level, whenever their reps incarnate deliver their mind to the humans who become their disciples, we can so very often revisit many of the same scriptures and if we have grown in someways which always includes having some time to digest and even apply some of what we realize (become aware of), we then have opened ourselves up to receive even a greater understanding. Ti and Do said they were fed information in a need to know way. In other words, they didn’t have consciousness of that much ahead of their student body. In this way, they could honestly say, this is what we understand now but we know that it could change down the road. However, by change I can’t say I ever witnessed that the change reversed what they initially received. It’s that they simply received a clearer and more plain understanding than what they once had. Many times Ti and Do said they would ask their Older Members who were outide their view, (though Do suggested that Ti’s mind was serving as Ti’s own Older Member because she (the soul who took that female vehicle to do this task) was a much greater mind (holy spirit) than what the incarnate portion needed to do this task, so when they set up the task, part of Ti’s greater mind was made available to draw on. Do said that his mind had not grown to that capasity yet, though I believe Revelations chapter 12 indicates that by his preforming this task to completion (bringing the student body to graduation after Ti left the human physical body she took over for her task to as she said, “get Do going”) He, Do would also be promoted to a Father (caught up to his throne). Before Ti left she instructed the student body to make their committments to Do. The fact that they were witnesses to one another is another huge proof that differs from most all who have claimed to be Christs returned. The Lucifierians can get one human to think they are the reincarnation of Jesus but they have a real hard time to get two to make such claim and to agree on who was the Older member. Humans to include space alien human equivilents to include reptilian space or under the earth beings being of a self centered mammalian mindset are hardpressed to manufacture a facsimili of these Two. And this is the reason there was such a fight against keeping the book of John and the Book of Revelations in the New Testement. John’s writings offerred the most comprehensive view of the reality of the Next Level and it’s members as real beings and the forcast of what to expect in Their future return that it would have been a whole lot easier to snooker the human population without those materials. But Ti and Do said that the Next Level worked very hard to made sure that record remained and became available when they needed it to be available, to serve as an aid/guide to the new incarnations of Father and Son and their returning “saints” student graduation body.
By the way, the 38 + 3 were not the only ones to graduate. They were the ones who moreorless got an A grade. Those who remain at this time can also graduate to their next best grade in school. In fact Ti and Do said that upon their arrival and the delivery of this “light” on Earth, enabled all life forms an opportunity to move up a notch in their evolution. Therefore the sooner we can open up to this and “believe” – the first step and then be willing to serve by sharing the same data with others the more we will each move up, so that when the garden is replanted and the souls that formed their allegience with Ti and Do before our current vehicles die, will have those souls “saved”, what Do called but not literally, “put on ice” for the next planting and the start of our trek towards a graduation.
So here is a chapter:
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“The Three I’s — Who’s Talking?
For the sake of understanding, it works best to picture or imagine that within each of us there are three I’s, or three voices that use the word “I.” For example, when we say, “I like so and so,” if it’s an intuitive like, or a like that’s been with us most of our life instead of a disciplined like, it’s the ancestral genetic heritage that is speaking (or the genes carrying that ancestral programming).
If it’s a learned like that is not intuitive, it’s probably the result of environmental influences or direct experiences we have had during this life that made a strong impression upon us. (The Genes also house the environmental influences or experiences learned during this life.)
If we say, “I like such and such,” asnd we like it only because we recognize the value of it, or feel it is more right even though we would intuitively tend to like the opposite, or if it is a disciplined like, then this is the mind talking and reflects a lesson learned in our genetic past. (Certain parts of our genetic structure also have pockets for housing the mind, what others refer to as spirit or soul.)
These three voices (mind-heritage-environment) all express themselves through the brain, so how do we learn to identify which voice is speaking? First, let’s talk about our genetic heritage. A good analogy that works for us is to think of genes as tiny information chips, similar to those in a computer. They contain all the information passed on through our blood line (or ancestral heritage) regarding physical appearance and sonstitution; likes and dislikes; attitudes, responses, and ways of thinking; how we experss ourselves; desires and opinions; weaknesses and strong points; liteally everything about us. Subconsciously, these genes will respnd automatically, transmitting those thoughts into our consciousness, and we interpret them simply as “our opinion” voicing itself.
We don’t have to waste a lot of energy figuring out which source the voice is coming from. That investigation doesn’t serve us, except in the understanding that the wise voice or mind, which as learned lessons, will be the source of responses that will choose to restrain us from destructive paths. Anything less than a response of restraint, because of a lesson learned, is the vehicle(body) talking–the voice of the genetic programming from the blood strain and/or environment.
It helps us to substitute the word “vehicle” fosr “body” in our vocabulary, because of the way most of us today are programmed to respond to these two words. In many cases, “body” is connected with lower (animal parallel) responses–manifesting in self-consciousness, modesty, and sensuality; whereas, “vehicle” is a more objective term not having those same associations.
The mind and vehicle are completely separate, the mind having existed before we ever came into this life. Again, the mind has no relationship to the genetic characteristics of the vehicle (neither to the genes programmed from the inherited blood line nor to those programmed by the environment during this life). Remember, we’re not talking about the brain when using the word “mind.” The brain is that part of the vehicle which acts as a receiver adn transmitter of the genetic signals.
Out teams vernacular uses the word “mind” in the same context as religious terminology does in reference to the the spirit or soul. The clarification of this usage is in no way intended to propose or endorse any particular religion, though the terminology could seem to suggest such. We’re merely trying to clarify the understandign of this three-voice concept (mind-heritage-environment). Whether this terminology is suitable in the eyes of some is really of no concern to us. The fact is that usign it to implement the concept of genetic reprogramming has proven unquestionably to work to a tee. The technique is so successful and yields such remarkble consistency in results that our team is currently involved in exploring this topic in depth.
The “I,” in reference to the mind, speaks always withthe most respectable and learned evaluation. For the sake of clarification, whenever we use the words, I, we, or you, in this book, it is generally the mind we are referring to, that part of us which wants to improve. It is therefore “our” task (our mind’s task) to talk to our vehicles, directy them in all th eir actions, and continually work to improve and refine the vehicle’s genetic characteristics.
We’re sure that most of you have employed this reprogramming technique anytime you exercised restraint or discipline for whatever motivational purpose. For example, if you avoided eating sweets because you wanted to lose weight, then you were uncinsciously using this technique. In other words, if a voice inside you says, “I really want a piece of candy,” and yiou exercise discipline by comign back with “No, I’m not goign to eat any.” then this is an example of your mind talking back to your vehicle. Only the voice of the vehicle (the genetic programming) would state such a strong liking for a food you know is harmful, while the mind is the voice that tries to get you back on track.”
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