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Negative thoughts and thriving on receiving correction and the real rapture in progress

June 27, 2013

Negative thoughts and thriving on receiving correction and the real rapture in progress.

For anyone that is being bothered by negative thoughts, here is some of what Ti and Do said about them.

When you feel/see or hear a negative thought, label it and then treat it like an existing spirit and tell it to get lost. Visualize it’s going away. If you want more power tell it to get lost in the name of Ti and Do. Whatever the source it’s treated the same, as an invader of your headspace, as Ti said, “you have control over your own solar system”. You decide what you want to let in and what you don’t. This is how one cleans out what they don’t want. It won’t stop the negative thoughts necessarily, but it will get easier to identify them and gets ride of any guilt for having it. Ti and Do said having negative thoughts is not your fault. Allowing to let them stay or exercising what they represent is our fault and has it’s ramifications and they become harder and harder to get rid of but one can always start over even after failure to do so. This is part of the war that’s raging more now than ever in this civilization. Some of course would say listening to anything from Ti and Do is a negative. That’s a choice too.

After telling it to leave as often as you need to, to stop the thought from playing in your head, put your mind on something else. Don’t wait to see if it’s gone. Assume it’s gone. You will get better and better at this. You probably already do it know it or not. They can be applied to anything you want to stop thinking or doing. You don’t have to be angry at the thought though to some I can’t help it and that’s okay. If the negative thought is about yourself it’s the same technique. Give it a meaningful label, like “sweet tooth spirit or discarnate, get away from me” that is if you seriously consider the sweet tooth a negative. This is actually a form of brainwashing self, but really the vehicle we all have that will gravitate to most anything that will yield sensory satisfaction. Those satisfactions are not wrong unless you decide they are wrong for you.

You will know your making headway by how quickly you identify the negative to where Ti and Do called it “nipping it in the bud”. Ti said she could “smell” a discarnate influence. I believe I began to experience that to where I heard no words/saw no sentences in my head yet KNEW the signature of the thought/idea. I remember stopping the thought mid stream as a stage before not having it register at all. When someone actually has a discarnate influence or in whatever way thoughts can be sent to us, discarnates being the most obvious source but just like “thought streams” can be sent between devices they can be sent between brains or even from device to brain, even to blanket parts of the populace in any given area.

There was a movie called, “They Live” that demonstrated aliens who had figured out how to put subliminal messages on human billboards. Ti and Do said some space aliens did that and especially to any who are prospective candidates for a Ti and Do future classroom. Ti and Do said for those that were their students, they actually each had an assigned “adversary and/or accuser” which is what the Hebrew word “satan” actually means. Thus anyone who has an advasarial or accusing discarnate influence has a “satanic” influence, but they don’t have to win any contest for our allegiance to the behaviors and ways we know are beneath us.

For instance if some of these people who do terrible things to others had control over their minds they would never get to acting upon what they took a long time to justify. They had to come to accept certain thoughts as righteous or just or needed to act out, to actually act it out. That really is “demon” possession and it’s really intense in those that don’t take any coaxing to do horrible things to others, like for those who war becomes routine and a desirable “career” or anything where people know that what they do is having a deeply negative to life affect on even one person. They have put that part of their conscience in a corner to become only a subtle voice at best and from that position may never be able to return. Now someone who knows they were in that mindset but are not now, they did return from it so they still have a chance to evolve further.

For those who are telling others of their belief in Ti and Do, be sensitive that it’s a big leap to even be willing to consider what they said and did as something to believe in, let alone tell others about it. I’m not saying to not tell anyone, but once you have it would be harassment to keep telling them over and over. I can hear the thought in my head now that says, “aren’t you doing that now sawyer, telling your facebook friends over and over about your relationship with Ti and Do?” And of course I am but it’s real easy to turn me off and not read what I write or even defriend me. I could continue to express this battle in my head that’s not really a battle any more at all, but leads to suggesting what I am saying, if it can lead to what my classmates did by “laying down their lives” would be considered a negative, I’ve justified. But the answer to that accusation is that no one living now is being led in any way shape or form to lay down their lives for Ti and Do. I say you NEED your body now more than ever and you want it to be in good health and of clear conscience and in control of the brain and our behavior and ways so not to do ourselves or anyone else harm in any way but to serve as an example, if one so chooses of a more evolved existence.

Regarding some feeling they are doing some thing wrong by seeing me talk publically about a matter they asked me about privately:

There are more and more coming to believe in Ti and Do and all have similar concerns and problems and things they want help with, so when someone tells me of their circumstance as some have, sometimes I might feel to share a generalized version of it with others in case some could benefit from it.

That is the way I observed Ti and Do working with their classroom (not saying this is a classroom but that’s all semantics now) and even though I’m not in their league, I’m choosing to try to be an instrument for Them so to mimic the ways they taught are going to be the best ways I can be in their service in the way they would. So please, if I take from what someone asks me in private and share it with others, never using names or specific circumstances, you can feel good that it could help another as well. There is nothing “wrong” about receiving lessons. We all need lessons. We all need correction.

In the classroom we were taught to crave correction of anything we were doing that was different than what Ti and Do taught. We were compelled to verbally express that to our partners often so they won’t feel they are imposing to bring things they observe up to us.

Ti and Do never really told students what they were doing right in their program. They talked about this to us saying that they were helping us get rid of the things that would keep us off the spacecraft. In other words they wanted us to qualify. They do have a mimimum qualification but they don’t teach to it. They teach to each students greatest capacity. Do told me this personally when I was telling him I had these influences that made me lessor than I appear. When I kept insisting I was “bad” in this regard, he finally said to me, “if you insist that I see you at your worst, I can, but why do you want me to see you that way.”

A new believer in Ti and Do was expressing how the people in his household, in his family were telling him he was going to hell for his conversion to belief in Ti and Do. So I suggested to this person that they might want to ask any who are saying that to point out what in particular they are referring to and why they see it that way? Maybe they have misunderstood something. Influences work on others around us to then cause us trouble.

We all face this in some way, shape or form. You may be facing them with your new found belief by talking about it to them when they don’t want to hear it. I would suggest you define a space where ever you live where you can have privacy and not have others forced to see what you are doing or watching or listening to.

We are not trying to push people into seeing what we see. All need to come to it on their own terms if/when they want it. If you can’t help but talk about what you believe, I would suggest finding other avenues to express it rather than among those you live with. There is ‘no place to lay one’s head for those that follow the “son of man”‘, and a prophet is not without honor except in their own household. This is no “rest” as many seek when they attach to a new belief. This one is largely on the go, which you might want to consider.

You can ask Ti and Do for help with choices and if you do They will probably open some doors to a change of circumstance for you and probably simultaneously for someone else that will help you. But in any case, exercise restraint in what you talk about and with who and when and how much.
This is what is meant by there being “two in the field, one is taken and the other left”, two at the mill….two in the bed…. and one’s foes will be in one’s own family and not to cast pearls to those that might use it against you.

All those who are coming to believe in Ti and Do are being “raptured”. Their vehicles are being “caught” by the Ti and Do fishers at this time. I don’t think they will physically take any of our vehicles anywhere, but they are looking for vehicles that are thirsty that can become the lesson ground for the next classroom and I suspect there are souls with each of us that were previously saved souls who came with Ti and Do this time around but were not ready for the firstfruit harvest so are looking for vehicles that can become a second fruit harvest that is not accomplished by “laying down our bodies”, but is accomplished by “giving our lives” to Ti and Do which upon each of our natural or unnatural death will graduate our Soul body, the soul of our vehicle and the Soul who is assigned to also work through our vehicle to each of our next best station towards becoming a member of the Level Above Human after recycling and through participation in the Next Older Member led classroom.

So anything any of us who spent time with Ti and Do can do to share with you that classrooms lesson material will be another feather in your cap.

Humans are like wild horses that initially don’t want to be captured, so the Next Level as the ranchers need to give a little sugar as medicine in the form of clearly “advanced thinking and acting” and some of the horses take to it and the rancher literally takes them out of their old world and feeds them and takes care of them, as long as they keep asking for more. If they all of a sudden refuse a lesson, the Next Level backs off a little to give them space and if they come back for more gives them more. Pretty soon that horse will want to perform for the rancher purely because it feels so good to be close to the rancher and they wouldn’t want to return to the wild herd even if the gate was opened, which for us it always is open as my being here demonstrates as I was caught hook line and sinker but simply didn’t overcome certain human characteristics so needed more time to do so in a new setting.
There was a gamble that I could have been lost in so doing and that is always on the table as possible, but the Next Level doesn’t even really let that happen easily unless we really insist upon it and show that by going directly against them.

causual talk about the early days with Ti (Peep) and Do (Bo) in 1975

June 14, 2013

response to a new believer in Ti and Do wondering why Sawyer was reluctant to take any kind of leadership position with new believers:
My leader is Do. If Do indicates to me that I need to take more of a leadership role then I’ll rise to that occasion
[6/13/2013 7:40:50 PM] Sawyer: I know my every thought and action are monitored because I have asked to be in their service and need them to help me.
[6/13/2013 7:41:07 PM] Sawyer: I don’t know what it will come to.
[6/13/2013 7:42:37 PM] Sawyer: Some people want me to be their Older Member but I’m not an older Member yet I do have Ti and Do’s mind in me and it’s deep. It’s not at all just information. I’m bonded and yet I’m far from bonded to the degree I need to be.
[6/13/2013 7:43:38 PM] Sawyer: I can understand some looking to me, in a sense in place of Do and that’s to be expected and Do even talked about it referring to new believers hooking up with an “active student”. I am an “active student”.
[6/13/2013 7:44:07 PM] Sawyer: But it’s not my job to lead. It’s my job to get people to ask Do to be their leader.
[6/13/2013 7:44:30 PM] Jon: have other people besides that -other- Sawyer asked you to be thier older member? i could be wrong, but think that only ti and do are our older member-right, right, you and June were in the beyond human video, has that become a burden, or come back to haunt you in any regard?
[6/13/2013 7:46:11 PM] Sawyer: From when I first started to publically interface again around 2003 I have had people treating me as if I was seeking to be this or that big kahuna.
[6/13/2013 7:46:41 PM] Sawyer: Some believe it has to be that way and that I’m silently planning on such.
[6/13/2013 7:47:54 PM] Sawyer: And there are some that suspect I’m seeking to build a new group, new cult. After all isn’t that what all the groups do? Everytime a “teacher” dies, one or more of their students continue on and/or start their own offshoot sect.
[6/13/2013 7:48:52 PM] Jon: we should make in clear in each and every podcast that we are not a new heavens gate, not a new “ufo cult”
[6/13/2013 7:48:58 PM] Sawyer: I have had some want to come to where I live and I have had some threaten, saying I need to be stopped becuse they think I’m restarting a cult.
[6/13/2013 7:51:24 PM] Sawyer: Yes, we can say that but it won’t stop the luciferians from putting the thought in people’s minds and it probably will result in loss of my vehicle, at least that’s what the book of revelations says and that is what is on the line for all believers eventually. The human vehicle is crutial to graduating the human experience. But so is the loss of that vehicle while in service to the Older Member.
[6/13/2013 7:52:44 PM] Sawyer: It’s not a “martyr trip” true. but “flesh and bone doesn’t inherit the kingdom of God/Heaven”. The soul birth is an invisible birth.
[6/13/2013 7:53:17 PM] Jon: “fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul”
[6/13/2013 7:53:25 PM] Sawyer: exactly
[6/13/2013 7:54:34 PM] Jon: and the second time the Rep came around, what was it Do said, “all it costs is your life”?
[6/13/2013 7:55:14 PM] Sawyer: Peter is all excited about doing this and he can be used, his service to bring the info to people who otherwise hear my name or have seen my face wouldn’t give it another thought as I’m that evil cult leader’s lacky to many and to most christians a heratic plain and simple.
[6/13/2013 7:55:28 PM] Sawyer: I’ve been told that on a number of occasions
[6/13/2013 7:55:39 PM] Sawyer: And I’ve been told that face to face also.
[6/13/2013 7:55:54 PM] Jon: yeah-me too, recently
[6/13/2013 7:56:04 PM] Sawyer: I’ve been thrown out of church buildings, not physically but just about.
[6/13/2013 7:56:16 PM] Sawyer: really, what happened to you.
[6/13/2013 7:57:17 PM] Jon: an old frend of mine asked what church i go to, and i told him what i believe about the father and the son, how the tradirional Xtian theology relates to Ti and Do, the real truth, and he said i was going to hell, that i believe a false jesus, etc etc
[6/13/2013 7:57:24 PM] Jon: a heretic
[6/13/2013 7:58:29 PM] Sawyer: that’s right. The lines are being drawn. This information seperates the real sheep from the goats.
[6/13/2013 7:58:52 PM] Jon: he can believe whatever he wants, i cant force him into the truth, it would do no good
[6/13/2013 7:59:03 PM] Sawyer: They will kill in the name of their god as we have seen in history in every religion and that isnt’ going to change now.
[6/13/2013 7:59:25 PM] Jon: you cant “make” people see )-:
[6/13/2013 7:59:54 PM] Sawyer: don’t want to make anyone see!
[6/13/2013 8:00:23 PM] Sawyer: never ever works that way. It’s why, “knock, seek, ask” was the way.
[6/13/2013 8:03:45 PM] Sawyer: when we first got on teh road goign church to church in 1975 there were some who loved going into a church office and telling them that the Two Witnesses were here and they need to see it and accept it, blah, blah, blah. I had verbal arguments with so called fellow believers in ti and do over that. I would follow the instructions ti and do gave us, that these two in particular didn’t get first hand but knew I had, yet were caught up in the whole idea of being on the leading edge of spirituality. One took the name “lightborn” and the other, “john the baptist”. Lightborn in particular always seemed to want to change things to his ideas. We were trying to do a meeting in the boston area and we had rendevoued with another group that traveled east from the west coast (before we all broke up entirely). I remember being in a sports field in a park in the tennis courts having a meeting with maybe 20 followers, though a handful of follower who had met Ti and Do. I did have a leadership role then in the sense that I had the direct commission from Ti and Do and was on fire with doing the task. We still operated on a concensus basis, more or less and most were happy to let jnnody and I with her partner and mine dndody take some lead in decision making yet no matter what we thought about and decided lightborn had a very vocal problem with. I got so frustrated with him that I said to him then, that if he couldn’t work with us, why doesn’t he just leave.
He tried to seperate me from the partner Ti and Do had assigned sayign we were together too long. I refused and then found my self and “dandy” traveling with he and “john the baptist” in lightborns car until the car had a problem and we were broke down on the side of the road in vermont and I just said to dandy, let’s just go, so we walked off and hitched to south texas to escape the winter that was setting in fast.
So my point was that lightborn and john were caught up with the excitment but weren’t really ready to go the distance as surfaced soon thereafter but I don’t know about in detail becasue I never them after that while dandy and I bumped into Ti and Do some 5 months later after my screaming to the heaven’s for help to know what to do next after hearing no new news about them for those 5 months.
This group in the beginning was full of “leaders” but when Ti and Do drew lines in the sand, theorectically as they did so by giving instructions that challenged students to decide if this was what they wanted.
But the instruction we were given by Ti and Do when they sent us out in Twos and threes, with two such partnerships to a car, which new followers could have sought to know, that was shared with them when they first joined but kind of fell by the wayside was to go to the churchs and ask for what you need. If you’re hungry tell them you are hungry and could use some food. If you need gas ask for gas. Never ask for money.
[6/13/2013 8:04:24 PM] Sawyer: Then the preacher would at times ask us how we find ourselves with these needs and we’d say, “we’re doing our heavenly father’s work as we have new information about the real Kingdom Level Above Human, or something to that effect.
[6/13/2013 8:04:58 PM] Sawyer: And if they asked what that informatin was, we’d give them a taste, telling about the two witnesses bo and peep.
[6/13/2013 8:05:46 PM] Sawyer: Sometimes we’d be asked in to have a discussion. Other times they’d hand us a $20 bill and other times send us to the police station to get a voucher, where we might get searched or sometimes nothing at all or a slammed door.
When dandy and I found an open church door when we were hitching everywhere, we’d go in and find cans of beans in the cupboard, we’d use their kitchen to fix them. That is if we didn’t see a residence nearby and we’d sleep on the floor and sometimes would be woken up by the preacher and a conversation would ensue and sometimes we’d be classified the devils children and run out.
[6/13/2013 8:07:15 PM] Sawyer: Some were about to help us until they heard what we believed and then turned away. I did that door to door every day all day for about 6 months in 1975-6
[6/13/2013 8:07:47 PM] Jon: two by two, no purse and scrip?
[6/13/2013 8:08:05 PM] Sawyer: yes, in twos or threes
[6/13/2013 8:08:26 PM] Sawyer: Ti and do assigned everyone a partner and if there was a odd person a threesome.
[6/13/2013 8:09:03 PM] Sawyer: we started out two or three partnershiops to a car or van.
[6/13/2013 8:09:08 PM] Jon: wow, hard work-a very literal inretpretation of spripture, strange that no so called christian missionaries (jw, mormon, etc) work like that
[6/13/2013 8:09:10 PM] Jon: ….
[6/13/2013 8:10:05 PM] Sawyer: we left everything behind. At that time there were all sorts running around doing the same kind of thing.
[6/13/2013 8:10:25 PM] Sawyer: I met jesus freaks who didn’t even wear shoes as they went walkign and hitchhiking around.
[6/13/2013 8:11:54 PM] Sawyer: we were criss crossing the US in the winter and some preachers would pick us up and say, the holy ghost told them to pick us up.
[6/13/2013 8:12:04 PM] Sawyer: and’s we ‘d have great converstaion.
[6/13/2013 8:12:41 PM] Jon: no doubt (-:
[6/13/2013 8:13:07 PM] Sawyer: we’d go in to a town and ask help at a church and if it felt good, would try to set up a meeting in the town.
[6/13/2013 8:13:20 PM] Sawyer: So we’d go to the newpapter and give an interview.
[6/13/2013 8:13:35 PM] Sawyer: Bo and peep was big news so everyone knew of the story so we were a story.
[6/13/2013 8:14:02 PM] Sawyer: IN one newpaper they repported that we were the two.
[6/13/2013 8:14:42 PM] Jon: i could be wrong, but you were considered “lost” for awhile after the waldport meeting, were you not? no one knew what happened
[6/13/2013 8:14:50 PM] Jon: ourside the group
[6/13/2013 8:15:00 PM] Sawyer: and though I thought martrydom was heroic then I thought about whether or not some might want to kill us the way Ti and Do thought they would as the two witnesses be killed.
[6/13/2013 8:15:23 PM] Sawyer: yes, it was mysterious becasue there were no real names to search out.
[6/13/2013 8:16:08 PM] Sawyer: After the meeting I went to in Waldport in 1975, i told the existing followers i wanted to join them and so did my girlfriend. Actually it’s a long stoory but that was “sarah” of mark and sarah.
[6/13/2013 8:16:22 PM] Sawyer: They gave us a phone number to call.
[6/13/2013 8:17:05
PM] Sawyer: They said to tie up our loose ends of our lives, give things away, whatever and call and they would give us a place to come to.
[6/13/2013 8:18:16 PM] Sawyer: sarah’s sister found out that we were joining and freaked out and threatedn to drive her truck off the cliff. She knew also that ron and judy our two best friends were joining also and they had two little children, jen and adam.
[6/13/2013 8:18:55 PM] Sawyer: they had arranged for jen and adam to be with their real dad who lived near portland. we were on the coast maybe 80 or so miles from portland.
[6/13/2013 8:19:24 PM] Sawyer: So the sister seeing that we were still going to join, went to the police and claimed kids were being abandoned.
[6/13/2013 8:19:34 PM] Jon: !!
[6/13/2013 8:19:36 PM] Jon: wow
[6/13/2013 8:19:46 PM] Sawyer: I was leaving ron and judy’s apratment when the sister and the police came to the door.
[6/13/2013 8:20:09 PM] Sawyer: and confronted me with whether children were being left behind – abandoned
[6/13/2013 8:20:26 PM] Sawyer: I denyied it and the sister was furious with us.
[6/13/2013 8:20:36 PM] Sawyer: But the police had nothing to go on so left.
[6/13/2013 8:21:34 PM] Sawyer: then the sister phoned her parents in ny and they immedieally flew out the next day to meet with sarah and I (they knew me well as i’d been with sarah for 5 years starting from when we met when we were 18 and 19
[6/13/2013 8:21:54 PM] Sawyer: though they disliked that I was catholic and she was jewish
[6/13/2013 8:22:15 PM] Sawyer: and I instigated a a hitchiking trip cross country and then shacked up with her in NY after that, again very unpopular, though they still seemed to like me or at least tolerate me as sarah was very independant herself.
[6/13/2013 8:22:40 PM] Sawyer: anyway we were in a motel argueing with her dad, her uncle and her grandmother and sister.
[6/13/2013 8:23:19 PM] Sawyer: Afther that heated meeting sarah would not change what she wanted so I was blamed for influencing her to believe in jesus and all.
[6/13/2013 8:23:39 PM] Sawyer: the next day, we knew that we had better get out of town so we did
[6/13/2013 8:23:56 PM] Sawyer: with ron and judy and two other close friends.
[6/13/2013 8:24:26 PM] Sawyer: This was after I’d gone all over town telling all my hippy friends “I feel I sat in front of the equivilent of jesus”.
[6/13/2013 8:25:37 PM] Jon: mmm about influencing her to believe in jesus-i mean, Ti is YHWH, the father, who jews say is god of abraham, issac, jacob, and moses
Yes, but they didn’t know that or even consider that as they were steeped in religion, the “killer of souls” because of that. jesus even addressed the same thing, how they stole the souls of men.
[6/13/2013 8:25:42 PM] Sawyer: Anyay that indicedent with the two children started the investigation
[6/13/2013 8:26:02 PM] Sawyer: that became the headlines of 27 people leaving after the waldport meeting
[6/13/2013 8:26:07 PM] Jon: mmm
[6/13/2013 8:26:10 PM] Sawyer: to get a ride on a ufo
[6/13/2013 8:26:37 PM] Sawyer: cloud of light. Ti and Do didn’t approve the use of “ufo”. They would have said, “spacecraft” but students didnt’ check with them first.
[6/13/2013 8:27:27 PM] Sawyer: and ti and do wouldn’t have approved of abandoning children either though at that meeting I was talking about, Do said, Children couldn’t come and a lady in the back yelled out loudly, “you ought to be shot”.
[6/13/2013 8:27:28 PM] Jon: sure, of course, they knew it was a next level crafy, thus not “unidentified”
[6/13/2013 8:27:37 PM] Jon: *craft
[6/13/2013 8:28:33 PM] Sawyer: I remember noticing the meeting room had this dense haze hovering over everyone like smoke and aroudn the stage and around ti and do especially it was like shimmering energy more than smoke looking.
[6/13/2013 8:29:10 PM] Sawyer: yes they knew and they didnt’ want to buy into popularist terms like UFO i guess.
[6/13/2013 8:31:02 PM] Sawyer: especially when in the west coast there were all sorts of groups surrounding adamski and david fry and a whole host of contactees, all facsimiiils created by the luciferians tryign to throw a monkey wrench into the plans they knew would be unfolding in the U.S. cause the luciferians know how the Next level generally works.
The instruction for those following Bo and Peep in 1975 that I received from Nora a follower and that we later told others who joined after me, was to bring with us camping gear if we had it, a car if we had one and cash if we had it but that nothing was required. They were living outdoors and traveling with car’s and needed money for gas. I joined with $50.00 and a sleeping bag as did Sarah. I got that from selling some of my instruments as we were basically broke when we joined. Robert, one of my best friends who owned the property where I was homesteadiing with him and another couple, where I was building my teepee house, owned 4-5 houses in Newport he rented out to hippies. He signed them all over to people to include his 3 acre parcel with an A frame on it. He ended up returning less than 6 months later and got his A frame property back. I visited with him in 1995 when I visited with many of the dropouts. Years later there were two classmates that were able to tap into trust funds their parents had set up for them, but for the first nearly 5 years no one had jobs and Ti and Do supplied all our supplies, to nearly 70 people on what people had brought into the group. Thus you were right…there was no stashing away of anything as keeping 70 people fed and traveling with insurance on cars, etc. as they sought to always be legal, and we often rented large parcels of ranchlands to construct our tent cities, all of which would have been an enormous bill. Ollody’s dad was a high court judge in connecticut and ollody was able to get monies on one or more occasions by tapping into his trust funds. Sarah (srfody) also got some funds that way years later. At first they woudl give each partnership money to go buy their groceries with and bring them back to our wyoming camp. For a few months they gave us “mad money” to spend however we wanted. This was for just under 100 people at that time. When I left Do had pursers give me $600.00 and the plane ticket to phoenix to stay with mark and sarah who volunteered to house me temporarily.When Mark and sarah were asked to leave they gave them a car and I dont know how much money. Just dumping some of the money matters I know about. Of couse I didn’t know everything about the money matters as I was never in the “purser” crew. I know there was a fund that was in the low 5 figures long after we’d moved into houses and half of us had well paying professional jobs, they tried to hold onto that in case they got instructions to go somewhere or do something that was costly or should some thing happen to the jobs. At that time we were renting 1, 2, and sometimes 3 large 6 bedroom homes in nice areas of town that were all at least 4 thou a month and some homes were around 8k a month. I remember when we were in california into the early 90’s we were broke. Do was stressed about that as we had huge expenses with around 30 mouths to feed and cars to upkeep and at that time the reason we were broke was because Do felt instruction to sell all we had before that and outfit ourselves to camp again. When that happened we had three very large homes full of nice furnishings, to include paintings, and crystal and gold leafed dinner ware as Ti and Do felt to keep everything looking modern and “normal” for when realtors or owners would come to visit and sometime nice things were harder to care for so it became a lesson to care for them. We had a fleet of about a dozen very nice cars and vans around then and sold some of the more expensive and had estate sales for the content of the homes and took the money and bought trailors and tents and such and then went to the desert near phoenix to fast to see if the Next Level would pick us up from showing we were not comfortable though we had in a way become such.