Q & A – what Jesus meant by “deny self”

The following is a comment from one of my youtube video’s on revelations 11. My reponses are below and unfortunately they are are in reverse comment order and I don’t want to take the time to straighten them all out to represent their correct order and nor take the time to strip out all the youtube link/tag labels and spaces, but perhaps some of my response will be helpful to some.

Commenter:

WRONG : THEY DIDNT DENY THEMSELVES AS JESUS SPOKE OF! THEY KILLED THEMSELVES AAAND TO DENY YOURSELVES IS TO NOT GO AFTER THE WORLDS THINGS AND ALLOW GODS SPIRIT TO DO HIS WORK IN THIS WORLD: HOW CAN JESUS CONTINUE HIS? WORK WHEN YOUR DEAD!! SO WHATS YOUR POINT????????

Responses by Sawyer in reverse order using the channel name 3spm:
That’s what the 7 seals are depicting in rev 5, 6 and 7. We are in the 3rd stage of that with Obama as the black horse. The tares are being removed by the firstfruit graduates.They show themselves to be tares by not wanting anything to do with the real Kingdom of God/Heaven and even working against, even though they may talk spirit this and jesus that. It’s irrelevant the talk. It’s all about who they talk? to and what they want in their petitioning and the fast track is to talk to Ti and Do.

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3spm .
3spm 1 second ago

They are genetically the strain that are the rightful heirs to the Kingdom, so Luciferians put most of their efforts against them by twisting every jot and tittle of the instructions from the Lord for His “children”. It’s not over though, not until they die, if they havn’t “come out? of that Babylonian mindset” by that time for each of them. If they have come out of allegiance to those “beastial humans” by the time they die, then the Kingdom of God will keep that soul for a future re-planting.

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3spm .
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Why do so many think it’s very? strange that a returned “Jesus” would say and do and require the same things of his current students as He required 2000 years ago unless the returned Jesus was made into a fake Jesus, an “anti Christ”. Christians don’t know it, so aren’t yet 100% responsible to the Lord yet, but they are all the product of the Luciferian fallen angel space aliens programming that is anti-Christ that is if they call themselves Christians, starting with Saul/Paul’s capture.

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3spm .
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Luciferians twisted humanity? up, with all this talk of a personal relationship simply by asking Jesus into our hearts.That can be a start but if that doesn’t include seeing Jesus by ALL THAT HE TAUGHT as opposed to only in figurative ways for the things that are too hard to take otherwise or for the miracles or for the promises for those who overcame as if we’d be worth anything (bare fruit) to HIM without overcoming our SELVES, then we are not having a personal relationship with the real Jesus

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3spm .
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I understand that the Luciferians have sought to turn everything into “spiritual only” service as well as the return, but spirits are not the way of the Kingdom of God/Heaven’s interface with humans. It’s face to face, really a way of saying “person to person”. It is from a personal relationship we bond with the Older Members. It’s not from our “person” to their “spirit”, except in between their in-carnal (flesh) in the person presence. Then we? follow by applying what they taught when present.

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3spm .
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So can the one you are calling “Jesus” not work with a student who has lost their physical body. Isn’t losing one’s physical body FOR THEM what Jesus taught spoke about & demonstrated to his closest 24 disciples, which? included the women then who I suspect was because of the lessons those Souls needed didn’t evidence as prominent and visible a public dissemination of information. Did they then stop serving at the lost of their body. Didn’t Jesus say they would be returning and would have tasks?

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for every eye to see began with comet Kohoutek and ended the firstfruit harvest of souls (Not human vehicles, though they are the? stalks that need to be cut down (killed) to reap the fruit of the kernals of the head of the wheat), with Hale Bopp comet both of which were treated as the greatest comets though a number of the comets seem to be “signs” of the “son of man”‘s arrival and departure both relative to Ti’s arrival and Do’s arrival as depicted in rev 9 and 10, 11/12, etc.

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Jesus didn’t say he and his Father and the “saints” were coming back only in “spirit” form or from a vantage point in the sky/heaven or masked by clouds only. He said the SON OF MAN is returning to prophecy (talk with NEW PLAIN words) as an “offspring” (son) of “human” (man).? It takes a physical body to do that IF one can expect anyone to relate to what he says and “commands” to do to “overcome one’s humanness” which is required to graduate the human kingdom (however in stages).

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I guess you think when you die that’s it, that is IF one has sought to be a student of the MOST HIGH GOD during their life. If someone has sought that and has asked to be of service to their highest idea of what the LORD is, which includes the study and application of what was taught through previous incarnate representatives then one will? recognized Their return and will give themselves to the new representatives which we all have the chance to do now in the way Ti and Do taught not our way.

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One’s “work in this world” IS ONLY what we are instructed to give. 2000 years ago it was to spread what he said, to love one’s neighbor as oneself And keep the commandments (sayings) Jesus provided in teachings none of which are done by the religions except for a little kindness here and there. One can make that “work” what we want to make it but that doesn’t make it HIS work as just saying Lord, Lord is not enough and singing praises and having ceremonies is nothing but? distortion of his work.

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Yes they did “kill” their SELF – first they did it by meeting the first qualification, (as did Jesus disciples) of “leaving all behind”, denying self one’s human family and activities in the world and then second (the second edge sword of the instruction from the mouth of the? Older Member, one’s Heavenly Father is to deny one’s physical will and even LIFE as Jesus said his disciples will do – drink the SAME cup of shedding blood for the Lord. Not just shedding blood – doing it for HIM.

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3spm .
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true, to “deny oneself” is to not go after the worlds things but that’s the way the religions? like to keep it instead of what it really means in full, which is to DENY ONES SELF entirely – have NO WILL for ONES SELF, like “thy will be done on earth”. That’s a request in that “lords prayer” not a statement. A prayer is a petition for help and service the only show of love and to give ones’ self entirely is to give one’s mental and physical life when the Father deems it and in the WAY instructed.

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One Response to “Q & A – what Jesus meant by “deny self””

  1. Gemunis Says:

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