Archive for November, 2013

Christian objections to Ti & Do as the “Second Coming” and Revelations Two Witnesses

November 29, 2013

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http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2013/11/29/christian-objections-to-ti-and-do-being-the-revelations-two-witnesses

Here is a little list not in any order of what Christian leaders generally tell me and I will be addressing each one in detail using scripture. Those who count themselves Christians might want to open their ears and take this lightly as there are just so many opportunities to see more. You might want to hear about this if only to know what the explanations and rebuttlals are so you can mount a counter insurgency if you so desire. I don’t want anyone to believe what I am about to share, but I do want to give you the the option to refuse so the Next Level (Kingdom of Gods in the literal heavenly kingdom) will be certain of your choices:

1) The Seventy weeks of Daniel’s prophecy hasn’t occurred yet.
2) None of the Seven Angels with Trumpet events have occurred and the Two Witnesses are in the midst of the 6th Angel with Trumpet
3) They didn’t come as lightning shines from east to the west as in Matthew chapter 24 states.
4) In one instance Do suggested he was Jesus and Jesus said not to believe anyone who came “in his name”
5) Israel has to be restored first.
6) Jesus doesn’t come incarnate – It’s a spiritual realm and incarnate is a Hindu word
7) The woman in Rev 12 represents the church
8) Revelations is symbolic so can’t be figured out until he comes
9) Ti and Do were new agers believing in reincarnation and Ti was an astrologer
10) Ti and Do said they came on a UFO
11) The Two Witnesses are killed in the street and 3 days later ascend into heaven
12) Do and his followers killed themselves – a mortal sin – Thou shalt not murder.
13) Applewhite was a homosexual
14) He returned when he rose from the dead 2000 years ago.
15) The Two Witnesses are Moses and Elijah or Enoch and Moses or Enoch and Elijah
16) The Church leaders would have known about it first.

Ti and Do’s 217 classroom meeting log 1982-1985

November 14, 2013

These are available for download on 4shared.com. Last time I checked downloading one at a time is free but downloading all of them had a charge, which was the policy of 4shared. Carlan set up that option years ago and I don’t know if it’s still available. Many of the tapes had very poor audio quality – low volume. However, I will be gradually playing them on my blogtalkradio.com/sawyer radio show. This log was designed by the classmate known as Rick (rkkody) before he layed down his body in 1998 and Carlan worked with him until he left thus continued to provide the tapes. The remainder of the tapes from 1985 to 1997 with a few exceptions are not being made available by those known as Mark and Sarah who were given the task by Do to provide them and for reasons unbeknown to myself and Carlan, though have digitized them are not providing them to anyone as far as I know to date.

001
07/14/82
Building reverence. Practice of silence. Silva Mind Control-off track-change M.O.(Ti&Do).”Tree”-Keep mind at feet of chief-ask to be examined. Object-“greeting”-separation from teachers. Meditation-relaxation vs. stress 70 min.
002
07/15/82
Finding retreat-retreat crew-meditation. Keep vibrations higher-Don’t listen to voices. 20 min.
003
07/15/82
Meditation exercise given(silence)-relaxed but keen & alert-Healing cells-Conflict =Decay. Each cell has a brain of it’s own-can talk to them & direct them-to be healthy. 85 min.
004
07/16/82
Blackhawk, Colo.-found retreat-wait &see. Don’t take each other for granted. 20 min.
005
07/20/82
Guilt-Conflict-Stress =vehicle breakdown. Program for health-eliminate stress. 15min.
006, 007, 008
08/29/82
Book information-3 faces of Lucifer-updates. One real God-One real Kingdom of God. Lucifer’s kingdom-facsimile of Heaven. Christian confusion-many members. Paths leading to #1 deceiver. Clarification of boogers-stages of human advancement-stepping stones. Major boogers work in Astral-Lucifer uses influential humans. 2 hrs., 48 min.
009, 010
09/05/82
Book questions-staying on track. Metamorphosis-boxes-graduation. Your thoughts will reach them by what you put in ether. If Links sent us energy-it would cheat us of growth. We already know ways of Next level-now we need to learn the ways of more responsible positions. You have to know who you are-constantly program vehicle to remember. 90min.; 20 min.
011
09/09/82
Sat. 3 reference-Hixon article example-our thoughts go out to help bring in New Age. Try to open door to humans to accept Teachers from the Next Level. Small human minds pure & good but need to blossom. Growth is through restraint. Need to have a fear of not pleasing the Chief. Information comes as an idea-not a “message”. 80 min.
012
09/13/82
People taking responsibility. “Eye for Eye” no longer applies-whole system has to be changed. Don’t become separate. See improvement every day. 90 min.
013
09/14/82
Moods, anger, sensuality

How the space aliens stimulated facsimili events to mask the difference between them the Next Level Above Human

November 14, 2013

Tonight, Wednesday 11/13/2013 9-11pm TiDo Witnesses presents a talk about The Space Alien agenda verses the Evolutionary Level Above Human agenda. The Space Alien agenda includes the facsimili’s to Ti and Do’s effort, the Solar Temple murder/suicides, the Jim Jones murder/suicides and certain UFO related events the Space Aliens use to try to confuse the differences between them and the Next Level Above Humam. http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2013/11/14/war-between-the-luciferians-and-the-level-above-human

special broadcast tonight 9pm et blogtalk radio

November 13, 2013

Tonight broadcasting at 9-10 pm ET a pre-recorded meeting tape of Ti and Do talking to their student body of 35 students on May 9th 1985 just a month and 10 days before Ti left her vehicle. The topic was “re-establishing committals” and this show without a shadow of a doubt Ti’s leadership (for those that think Do got off track after Ti left). There is one spot that really points this out. Let me know what you would see like that. One of my lessons is also pointed out by Ti in it. Listen in at: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer . I put a little intron on it and I will come in live at the end for a literal few minutes of questions by calling 646-478-5618 or logging in and talking to me in the chat window.

“Boogers” – asssigned advasaries (satans) to the “fruit” (saints (students) in Ti and Do’s classroom

November 9, 2013

I was asked where the term “booger” came from.

Sawyer’s response:

Ti and Do’s word. Each classmember were actually assigned a (as far as I know just one) booger. Though they didn’t explain this, I don’t think the boogers don’t know they are assigned. They simply want to turn the eyes of anyone who gravitates to the Next Level Older member representatives that they do know are embodied in Ti and Do’s vehicles whom they largely consider to be a powerful alien group themselves, a group to which they resent being subject to, thus the war, and because if they can win one of those Souls to their camp they are that much more effective to turn others who are gravitating to the Next Level at whatever stage. But I do believe the Next Level literally regulates “gates”, perhaps as specific as to the person they want to provide that “mind” “muscle” building “influence”. Quotes are Ti and Do’s words. I do know that Ti and Do felt some of the areas the class moved to, they saw after the fact as exposing the students to a different set of influences some of which were kept away from the student body and that they at times didn’t feel to stay in an area because they didn’t want to over challenge the student body. They talked about this a tiny bit one time regarding when we were briefly in the Salt Lake City vicinity but I believe these were not “boogers” in the same sense of ones assigned students versus just being in that vicinity as discarnate influences generally stay in the areas of their interest and roots to the humans they inhabit (“time share” a humans “computer” with).

internet radio tonight 9-11pm war between Luciferian space alien fallen angels and Evolutionary Level Above Human

November 7, 2013

Tonight 9pm-11pm ET talking about the War between the Luciferian Space Alien (fallen angels) and the Evolutionary Level Above Human. Call in at: 646-478-5618 or log in to listen and chat or just listen to the stream at: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer

Also discussing how to translate and interpret scripture with objectivity. Case in point about a woman who feels she is the Rev 12 “Woman” but translates the word “heaven” in rev 12:1 as “gospel” because of the Luciferians influence over translators who interject their own “implications” in this case she got from Strongs.

Additionally, talk about more prophecies Ti and Do fulfilled and where the Luciferians as depicted in Revelations.

Evidence of relatives effort to find Ti and Do’s students

November 5, 2013

Evidence of relatives effort to find Ti and Do’s students

I remember that article and looking it over now I’m reminded of how many facts are totally inaccurate. She was never 2nd in command. She was a student “helper” and I don’t think the number was 20 but I’m not sure what it was. But off the top of my head as far as who laid down their human containers in 1997, Ollody, the environmentalist, artist, Lvvody (Julie), Chkody , Jnnody, the other primary “helper”. There are still a few believers from that group though, “mrcody, srfody, jhnody (from venezula where he is now) and swyody. Also, I never said I saw her at the Waldport meeting. I simply knew that’s the meeting she joined from.

If you ever contact Michael who was rthody you can remind him of this article as he mocked Do as being always concerned for security of his “classroom” – as Michael said about their acting as if someone was “after them” which is exactly the truth that he has decided to be blind to evidenced by this article that talks about the investigators they hired and used up their vacations and put great expense to. And her folks were not the only ones by far. Jwnody’s brother also hunted for her and hired an investigator. My vehicle’s mother wanted to hunt for me but my vehicle’s dad (deceased now) wouldn’t have it as he knew I was doing what I wanted to do, which was proved to all of these family members when we “visited”. Lvv visited them and so did Jwn and Oll and Jnn, etc. actually  most everyone had someone to visit on two occasions Ti stimulated the first one and Do instigated the second visit. I fully understand and am pained by what the relatives went through but if they had come to know their offspring and/or asked help from their idea of “god” – Parent of our Soul bodies in the literal Heavens, thus “heavenly father” then they would have felt that “peace” even though they might still have certain emotional pangs at their absence. But those who didn’t rise above thinking of their children as their possession and didn’t ask for help to understand would have remained bitter from what took place, a choice they are making.

Response to a woman who insists she is the Woman in Revelations 12

November 5, 2013

This is my response to a woman who I have had communication with for a few years, but ceased because she didn’t care to examine much if anything about Ti and Do and she claims to be the “woman” in:

Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

I just happened to check one of her blog posts recently and saw that those who are in her congregation that she is a member have decided to, I guess ban her from their congregation because of her views they don’t agree with.

So in occurred to me to ask her to share with me her interpretation of the entire chapter of Rev 12 as the Woman is it’s focus and frankly I am sure it’s referring to Ti. Do actually told us this in about the only limited bible study we ever did for the 19 years I was in Ti and Do’s classroom. By the way, Ti and Do never quoted chapter and verse, though they did at times refer to things Jesus said but in their own words. They also rarely used the word in the bible without adding what they felt the word meant. For instance, to worship was really to serve, give service to. Heaven was literal heaven’s or outer space. Heavenly Father was Older Member.

I believe she goes by MiniGoodtale, or that’s the name of her blog and perhaps her name is Val. She sent me three links to her wordpress postings that were interpreting Rev 12. As soon as I read the first verse’s interpretation I could get no further though she provided some Strongs dictionary definition of each word no context consideration or background or origins were provided, and these were documents she posted on her blog some time ago, so they seemed very contrived to, as so many do to match what they have been either taught to see or not see or are wanting to see or not see. Thus I commented back to here below:

Sawyer’s response:

Here is my initial response to your provision of Rev 12 interpretation:
“heaven” – you said meant “gospel”, I can see where you came up with that from Strongs:

3772 ouranos oo-ran-os’
perhaps from the same as oroV – oros 3735 (through the idea of elevation); the sky; by extension, heaven (as the abode of God); by implication, happiness, power, eternity; specially, the Gospel (Christianity):–air, heaven(-ly), sky.

The primary definition is referring to literal geographic “elevated areas” as the air, sky and actually to include areas of the sun, moon and stars are also elevated above the earth, so is actually referring to everywhere in outer space. The addition of “implications” are fine to consider but how can they be used as a primary definition as everything can be linked together to make a case for oneself using implications. The way to learn how to best and most objectively translate and interpret is by looking at the context in as many verses as you can everywhere in scripture. In so doing, starting with what Jesus was quoted to have said:

Matt 5:12, Matt 5:16, Matt 5:45, Matt 5:48, etc.

Now take the word you chose “gospel” and insert it in the verse where “heaven” was put in these scriptures and see if it makes sense given what “gospel” actually means.
I’ll take the second verse listed as it’s pretty clearly not going to work at all with “gospel” inserted as will be the case for all of these actually:

Mat 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

Would this work to say, “father which is in gospel”

Of course not. After all, “gospel” is another word given a “religious context” when it could have simply been left as a “good message” for clarity, by the way something the Two Witnesses clarify in their prophecy period, as Jesus said, upon his incarnate return he would “speak plainly and boldly” and not in stories (to keep from being killed sooner because the plain/bold talk would be far harder for the general public to swallow and if what they can’t swallow, especially among the leaders, they seek to banish and eliminate from society which is what eventually would and did happen, but not until jesus had laid the groundwork for his student body to continue their lesson plan.

Here is the usage of the word, “gospel” and it’s definition that should coordinate with your usage to have any accuracy at all:

Mat 24:14 And this gospel ((euaggelion= good message)) of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
where “gospel” is defined as:

gospel = 2098 euaggelion yoo-ang-ghel’-ee-on
from the same as euaggelizw – euaggelizo 2097; a good message, i.e. the gospel:–gospel.

Can you imagine Jesus saying, “…this HEAVEN of the kingdom shall be preached…”
or how replacing “heaven” below with A GOOD MESSAGE (gospel meaning) makes any more sense:

Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in A GOOD MESSAGE; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

Of course you chose “in time” in place of “in” right before your selection of “gospel” in place of “heaven” to try to put it in the context you were seeking when the context was clearly more suited to a “place” rather than a “time” because heaven is a place (the abodes of the Kingdom of the Above Human Gods (as each member is Above even the greatest human according to Jesus) as evidenced by every usage of what Jesus was quoted to have said translated to the English word “heaven”, even though many, many Christians have tried to make it figurative as a “state” of bliss, etc. (It is also a blissful state but that’s not where the emphasis is in the context of most of it’s usage. It also has a relationship to “time” in that They are “out of human time” as being eternal and abiding off Earth they are not subject to time contraints of humans. But if we were to accept your translation as the “time of the gospel” then what is your NEW message or are you thinking, just quoting what’s in the records is the delivery of the “message” (gospel) which is the same think every preacher in the world is saying so why have a prophecy of it and why wouldn’t it have been worded like the Rev 11 prophecy of the Two Witnesses as to prophecy is to speak words inspired by God which is a “good message”. Now if you would allow yourself to open up to the voice of the Kingdom of Gods from the literal heavens though Ti and Do you will literally have an enlightening experience you are holding back for yourself by insisting on being the person of this Rev 12 Woman.

I have to be direct for your sake but your interpretation is about supporting yourself in who a Luciferian has tricked you into believing because in doing so the Luciferian might keep you away from the truth because you have a potential to be in service to the real Kingdom of God/Heaven. To be of service you have to “deny self” not elevate self. What you learn to elevate is the teachings. It’s not your fault that you have been attacked and nothing is lost in your exhaustive research. In fact, the knowledge you have acquired could be invaluable to Jesus and the Father.

You can receive proof of what is TRUE on any subject by projecting your asking for the TRUTH of this matter from the God almighty who made the heaven’s and the earth who reigns throughout the literal heavens. You can ask for the TRUTH about who you are in this regard with as specific a question as you can make it. And ask more than one question and I guarantee you will get a response UNLESS you fear asking or the answer.

Response to a Heaven’s Gate Ti and Do theological psychologists upcoming book

November 5, 2013

I was sent an early picture of Bo and Peep with Wndody and Dncody sitting on the stage with them by an author of a new book about the group asking whether it was Waldport meeting I attended. I have been providing him answers to his questions and since I tend to let the thread of info flow, I wanted to provide this same info to those who follow this blog for whatever it may be worth to them:

Sawyer said:

No, this wasn’t Waldport where I first attended. This was before Waldport which can only be Canada College as Stanford was only done by students and the two L.A. meetings were in a private residence. There was no one else on the stage at Waldport and no table and I don’t think there was a sound system. On far left is Wndody who then was Wendy and whose vehicle was the daughter of Flxody who was not among the 38 and may still be alive but in her 90’s now and next to her, Dncody, who left the class in around 1987 and some 10 years ago died of an HIV related infection. They would both from the L.A. meeting. Dnc was an actor and his pic was actually on a Wheaties box and he ended up turning against believing in Ti and Do said they were and went public in 1997 with that view on a couple talk shows. Wndody left the class at one point in the early 1980’s while living in the San Antonio area where she worked as a waitress when we firsts were living in houses and got jobs. She married a policeman she met at the Dennys where she worked. She rejoined a few years later, but I never knew how the contact was made as we did nothing public then. It was after she left that her vehicle’s mother flxody left and just now I’m seeing what was probably behind flxody’s leaving. Flxody with her boyhood love and then husband were in touch and asked to rejoin in the early 1990’s after they were sent the Beyond Human tapes. Her husband took the name Abel and so was Ablody. But they were in their 80’s and we were gearing up to another public offering and had become very tight knit and non-rebellious to instructions that flxody had a hard time re-adjusting to, though he thought Ablody was very “sweet” I recall him saying. So Do, though very pained to do so, felt Ti approved of their being asked to perform a task by returning to their vehicle’s home in Missouri. The task was to be a location for certain mailings and where groups would be able to stop and potentially as a half way “house” for some in the class that might still need a different experience to make headway on their overcoming of certain human characteristics that the main body classroom format wasn’t allowing them to deal with.

This brings up again, the idea that Balch and others who followed his lead are completely missing the boat on, saying Do sort of flipped out after Ti left and took the class in a different direction than Ti would have which they say was related to his being troubled over his vehicles past sexuality that led to the suicides. I know that can not be further from the truth and anyone without an axe to grind in some way or a career they want to support and any intelligence should be able to at least sense let alone recognize the folly of that view.

I’m speaking of the entire half way house efforts to where many students were instructed to experience and where they could not remain “under any spell”, which is evidenced by at least one long term member, named Cddody leaving the class when he was offered to return from his half way experience. Sngody, Alxody, Anlody, Cddody, Stlody, Tllody were all in a half way situation we called satellites. They were all in Dallas while the “main craft” was in California. There were no “elder students” with them. They had a number of apartments, Do helped them all set up. Brnody was the first to have this experience, mainly because she needed to learn to be independent minded because of her bout with what might have been polio, but was diagnosed as rheumatoid arthritis that none of the many ways in which Ti and then after Ti left, Do with students tried to help her deal with. We actually left her in Dallas when we lived there and then some students and sometimes Do with helpers would visit her, though not frequently. Anyody who changed her name to Anlody when she was offered to rejoin the main body (with Brnody) lived with Brnody for a while but then needed to be elsewhere so lived with Cddody nearby as well. Tllody ended up having a girlfriend and a sports car and a job during his year or two in Dallas. Stlody who had been one of the 19 who Ti and Do had sent away from the main body in late 1976, but who returned as a result of Drrody’s so called accidentally bumping into Nrrody who worked at the Amarillo, Texas hospital, then returned again from the half way satellite following their seeing the Beyond human series and asking to return. Stlody was I believe in the Denver area. I’m not sure as I was not involved in monitoring their situation as much as with Brnody – monitoring amounted to assisting Jwnody to call them to answer questions. Stlody returned and that’s when his vehicles sister joined too, named Evnody who was my partner with others during the 1994 meeting schedule.

So how is it that there were so, so many ways Do was giving students ways to leave while never evidencing wanting them to leave. In fact he was significantly troubled by every departure as if he felt they were his kids. I witnessed this. When I was dealing with my “fall”, or rather not dealing with it, Jnnody at one point was trying to deliver some wake up to me and said something to the affect of, “do you know what this is doing to Do?” as frankly til then I showed every promise of being an very good crewmember on Ti’s team. Jnnody and Lvvody were his “helpers” with him 24/7 for years after Ti left.

There is so much evidence that is anything but “flipping out” or whatever words have been used that so many, even x members like Michael have bought to justify their not considering who they really were.

If you are not already, you might want to subscribe to my blog at: sawyerhg.wordpress.com where I continue to post things relevant to all you are writing about and in particular related to this viewpoint I’m revisiting right now. Also I started talking on internet radio again with the next broadcast on Wed the 6th at 7pm ET but where a podcast is available for free download anytime. That’s at: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer and the blog is at: http://www.sawyerhg.wordpress.com/ .

The finale hasn’t occurred yet. The huge events in the heaven’s that continue and the responses of governments and corporations to the huge increase in earthquakes and volcano’s and unrest and shootings and political fanaticism and religious and spiritual and atheist hiding from the truth and reality of this time and all that has occurred and is in motion is just the beginning of this time of great trouble not seen since the beginning of the current human civilization. You are in their observance. You can contact Them whether you know it or not by asking for the “truth” on any subject projecting your requests to “our Father in the literal heavens”, since talking to Ti and Do may not be something comfortable for you, just as They gave Hayden Hewes that form of contact that he used twice and received contact from.

So that’s another mouthful but look at my recent blog post that lists most of the ways in which Do was providing a full range of choices continuously and in continuation of the same options Ti supported while she was incarnate that demonstrate that Do was following Ti’s Mind’s directions implicitly to the last moment and there is zero evidence otherwise.

Jesus an Evolutionarily Above Space Alien ET

November 3, 2013

Jesus an Evolutionarily Above Space Alien ET – TiDo Witnesses broadcast, Sunday 7-9pm EST, Why the non-Christian Jesus is Evolutionarily ABOVE HUMAN and ABOVE Space Alien (human equivalents) that the Luciferian “fallen angel” space aliens turned into Christianity and Judaism, one prime reason people run to atheism and spirituality and away from reality of People from deep outer space who have no “home” planet as they are at home in whatever laboratory they are working with/in. The Earth is actually Their lab experiment to grow Souls to new membership in their Family. The Luciferians are those that in a previous civilization rebelled from their elementary participation in the lab experiment and sought to sabotage the experiment but the Next Level took advantage of this to provide humans with the choice to become in allegiance to the Luciferians or Their Older Members they would periodically send undercover (like a thief in the night) though the invisible to human spirit world to take a body prepared for them to demonstrate their reality to humans to decide to go Their way or not. Show Call in:(646) 478-5618 or just log on to listen and chat. Free. If you think Religions or spirituality or atheism and science answer all your questions then this is NOT for you. This is NOT an attempt to have followers or believers or to make money or gain popularity. We work for Ti and Do who brought this perspective and have since exited the human condition but are monitoring and directing the wrap up of the end of the age before recycling the civilization. http://www.blogtalkradio/sawyer