Archive for November, 2015

Why Islam is not the pale/green horse of Rev 6:8 – what about Christianity?

November 26, 2015

An individual commented on a previous post, suggesting Islam was the pale/green horse of Rev 6:8 that was riding through Europe right now.

Here is my reply:

Can you back it up? Go for it. I’d like to hear what you have to say about it. I have found that all prophecy has numerous applications. Of course that’s set up that way so people can choose what they want to believe. Often when I talk to Christians I don’t often disagree with them…what I find is that I believe I see MORE to it that always seems to have a more consistent contextual application.

For instance if Islam is a manifestation of the pale/green horse I can agree as Do indicated for this time how the lower forces, fostering the weeds of the garden will assist the Next Level with removal of the tares, those seeds planted by the Luciferians that can look just like the wheat but have no Next Level mind in them. But that also makes the governments or anyone who is killing other humans equally the product of the “pale/green horse” that brings not only death through the military “sword” but through famine, and pestilence and from the bestial humans and not only of the physical vehicles as to the Next Level all our vehicles are ultimately destined to die. It becomes a matter of who we die for. If we choose to give ourselves to the Next Level Older Members Ti and Do and we spread their truth and we meet opposition for doing so and die in that service regardless of how, then we are dying for Ti and Do and they will take that soul to give it another opportunity to grow another notch towards graduation at a later time.

For the innocent victims of both the governmental terrorism (often their bombs and drones kill civilians and they call them collateral damage) and those that died by the terrorist attacks in Paris, the Next Level can choose to save the souls or spirits from them and give them another opportunity to grow towards Next Level membership in the future. That depends on each one of them and is not something any human can determine about any other. It depends on whether or not they sought a connection with the Next Level in whatever way that could have occurred. It’s not dependent on whether they go to church or mosque or synagogue or temple or have no religious affiliation.

But there are many reasons I think the more thorough interpretation of the pale/green horse is a specific person partially based on what a “horse” is in prophecy. It’s a human vehicle as shown in Zechariah’s prophecy (you’ll have to look it up). Zechariah said a lot of things that directly relate to the Revelations prophecies and seems to be related in some way to the student member of the Next Level who incarnated in the vehicle called John the Baptist. There are many other reasons for my interpretation.

For whatever it’s worth if you are interpreting the symbolism in the Revelations with more symbolism instead of bringing more literal applications to the symbolism, I think you or anyone else has not yet arrived at the greatest application for that symbolism, but of course that needs to be accomplished using the context of where that symbolism came from. For instance when the prophecy talks about “grass” in some context, even most it’s referring to those seeds that have come up as new shoots while a “green thing” or green plant will be one that has grown to be a student to some degree and a “tree” a soul that has grown to provide service of fostering further fruit growth like another seed distributor where seeds is the Words from the Older Members. Just like the Next Level uses plant life for examples they use animal lifeforms.

For instance when birds are used I believe they are talking about the space aliens, maybe not in all cases though as the Next Level is compared to an eagle with it’s wings or like a hen with it’s chics. So it goes both ways many times. And it’s not the horse so much that’s important in this verse but the one sitting on it with the name Thanatos= death in greek mythology, while Green= Demeter=Ceres in greek and roman mythology and hell=hades and Pluto in mythologies.

I can’t help but pay attention to the facts that just as I was asking help to understand this verse better and it’s application and how to explain it all, the NASA space crafts were taking pictures of the cityscape like lights on Ceres and the hanger bay looking doors on Pluto and the other earth like characteristics of Pluto that correspond to what Ti and Do said of Pluto and the relationship with Daniel chapter 7’s 4th Beast King/Kingdom. That’s inside information only a student of Ti and Do would know about and know how to apply provided just ahead of the prophecy’s full realization in the next election.

It’s also important when interpreting prophecy to consider where on earth it is slated to most come to the fore. Of course that is a matter of interpretation as well but the biggest application pertains to the U.S. which I believe is the 4th quarter of the earth which can be found insinuated in Zechariah chapter 13. Also why is it Islam and not Christianity or pseudo Christianity that is the pale/green horse in the symbolism as if you look at who is doing the greater terrorism (not so justify any of it) it’s the western governments marching on the middle east that make the event in Paris and even new York pale in comparison.

How many millions – yes millions have been killed, maimed, diseased, run out of their homes, had their lives destroyed by the U.S. and their allies and by the French and by the English and others and now the Russians in the name of a just cause as they said also against their foes in WWI and the Ottomans when they divided up all those middle east countries in the first place and then WWII that by the way the Jews are very much all in bed with as well thus three world religions would certainly be implicated.

More to come on this.

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Los Angeles – FIRE IN HEAVEN like Revelations 13:13 and identifying potential messages from Ti and Do

November 11, 2015

Comment from a long time Ti and Do new believer and my response to follow:

Hey Sawyer.
I have been getting messages from the next level. Things like: I will be thinking about Heavens Gate and “Do” will pop into my mind and then I flip the channels on my t.v. and there’s a Heavens Gate documentary on and I see Marshal Applewhite. Or I was thinking about Heavens Gate one time and a commercial came on t.v. and the announcer says on it “Unleash the power of do”.
Things like this happen all the time. Now this. Have you seen the footage from Saturday? I live in Southern California and we had a fireball in the sky. Many claim it was a rocket or missile, but I swear to God I think it is Marshal Applewhite. When I first saw that on the news the first thing that popped into my mind was that it was Do.
What do you think that means? Do you think it may be Do? If so what does this mean? When you look at this fireball it looks exactly like the Hale-Bop comet! Exactly like it! What are the odds. I think it’s Do sending us a message. I really do believe Do was Christ return.

Sawyer’s response:

I don’t doubt those are signals from the Next Level crew working for Ti and Do. Some things will surface that aren’t necessarily direct forms of communication but are the way “thoughts” from the Next Level’s presence  trickle down into society. Like people talk about getting to the Next Level applicable to anything, or the preoccupation with butterflies and the talk of metamorphosis in literature and movies, etc. – all because their Minds are powerful and just being in the atmosphere that includes the “first heaven” leave deposit’s of their thoughts/ideas, behaviors and ways that if someone is tuned into in any way, they will identify more readily and make the connections, in your case to the source as Ti and Do and crew. But they know each of those who believes in Do and will alert you to things.

I can’t tell you how many times, I’ll get this thought – turn on the radio and then hear something related to heaven’s gate directly but more often something I’ve been wondering about or even asking questions about that will provide some answers through the humans talking about what was on my mind. I wasn’t making the human talk about those things. The Crew was aware of it from their elaborate technology to monitor what they want to monitor. It’s interesting how in this day and age it’s not such a mystery anymore that someone can listen in to us. Humans just don’t have the tech to do so – into our thoughts but the Next Level can easily read our thoughts if they want to and especially when we want them to, so they can help us progress in their service to lead to our graduation from the human kingdom.

Los Angeles Event

Now that whatever it was over L.A. last Saturday (November 7, 2015) may have been Do’s direct or indirect instigation as it’s the same kind of thing as with seeing a commercial that is more likely a trickle down which is not to trivialize the event at all. I say this because of the prophecy I’m continuing to work hard at understanding as Ti and Do and Crew would have it understood.

In Rev 13 you will see where the second or “other beast” does wondrous or miraculous things to trick people into giving allegiance to them, the human governments/organizations and/or their space alien influences. In that way, the Next Level could have easily suggested to the military higher ups to perform that test where and when they did for the benefit of all who will see it or hear about it and wonder about. Each will see it according to their own beliefs so it doesn’t even matter who the main instigator was. For instance let’s say it was space alien stimulated and they told the U.S. military of their plan, so the military formed a cover of having a sub in the area and closing down the airport. That type of communication is certainly possible between some of the space aliens and the U.S. government, or it could happen totally through the discarnate world of thought projections the space aliens know well how to do because they are the descendants of the fallen angels in various ways and those fallen angels are in the spirit world (with parts of the first heaven access) so can communicate their ideas to any humans they choose to even take certain ones over entirely so they are running the show completely through that human container that appears to be an individual when they are really like a computer with spirits as the programmers at their “keyboard” issuing commands.
I have been hard at work trying to figure out every detail of Rev 13 and all of those prophecies and in specific that passage about “fire from heaven” being shown by this “other” beast:

Rev 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

Rev 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

I  had thought that “other beast” was the EU – European Union but that event made me question if I got that right but then it still seems to be the case given all the context especially as this event at LA is so alike to the Norway Spiral several years ago. Search the web for that if you like, which was in Oslo, Norway. So I suspect this LA display is technology based on the Norway event that is either space alien performed or that they taught it to humans whether humans know where they came up with the ideas or not. It’s not far different from elaborate fireworks.
Ti and Do always talked about what the Luciferians do as creating a “facsimile” of what they learned the Next Level does, when they had access to Next Level projects and they teach those things to humans in various ways. In these two cases but in particular to the L.A. event they made this object look like a “fireball” or “meteor” or “asteroid” or “comet” something humans before now had no way of simulating. if they can simulate these (as they just did) many humans will be in awe of what they do and in that way more inclined to remain in allegiance to the human condition that the governments/military, etc. establishes the norm for. Then for those that think space aliens are real and among us, who have often had experiences with to some degree, they will have their belief in aliens stimulated and that many times involves thinking of the space aliens are the real creators, again to garner their allegiance to the space aliens who want to capture souls from having Next Level service. The space aliens are the “birds” in Jesus parable about the planting of seeds. Third there will be the scoffers of space alien existence that will simply see this as what the military said which can be totally true – a missile test. Note how that doesn’t have to be a lie. It just doesn’t’ say who stimulated it, who designed it and who decided when and where to do it.
Then there are Christians with their allegiance to the governments or not who might say it’s a sign from god or from the devil even quoting the same verses I am quoting but in a totally different context as they mostly don’t think or know how to document that the way I would because they don’t think Jesus came yet and they are in a sense correct because the body that was named Jesus hasn’t returned “yet” as that is spelled out in Rev 19 as Do’s return wearing clothing “dipped in blood”, clearly not incarnate this time which many Christians don’t recon with anyway. They largely see his return as a “light in the sky”  they don’t even generally recognize was described as a star like light – like a comet for instance?
So everyone gets what they want from any event and all events have Ti and Do behind because they provided the space aliens knowing what they would do to try to trick humans as it filters those humans who have their mind dominant in them from those humans who have Next Level mind more dominant in them. We are plants in these vehicles but plants that serve a major purpose of providing the needed experiences to build our mind muscle of Next Level Mind from. So everyone gets to be right though only a tiny few will be most right when they see it and it draws them more to the Kingdom of God/Kingdom of Heaven – Next Level and possibly even to Ti and Do as one of the three types of individuals who can go with Do and Crew when they finally leave with their fruit (the three types) and all others are recycled.
Thanks for telling me of your experience as it really helps me to try to pull in better the ways of talking about all this, so I will post your question on my blog, minus your name so others that might be experiencing the same kinds of things can have a little more of what I hope is the way Ti and Do would see it.