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DO’s reference to His Students as the Twenty four “Elders” in the Revelation

October 19, 2017

Question to Sawyer:

So when in the Beyond Human tapes Do talked about students of his potentially being other’s older members, it is still separate from adult Older Members? I’m speaking of the part where he talked about being “grandfather” to younger members.?

Reply from Sawyer:

Here is the segment from session one of the Beyond Human series that I believe is part of what you are referring to: (Two students were sitting with DO during filming acting as his “helpers” with questions)

“Well, this little classroom that dwindled to 50, and then dwindled down to a couple dozen, have now reached a condition where they have overcome the world enough to relate in a position up a notch as Elders, or Older Members, to anyone else that they can help in their own overcoming. Yes, that means these two here who’ve been sitting here this whole hour with me and haven’t asked me a blooming thing (laughs). But, I know they like to hear about the Kingdom of Heaven. And they know how filled I am with it. And I know how filled they are with it.”

(Note this is also where DO indicates his students then were numbered at “a couple dozen” and were “elders” that can be related directly to the prophecies in Revelations about the “four and twenty elders”)

In terms of DO being a “grandfather” to some who at that time he considered might be watching those same Beyond Human video’s in the future, he said in Session 11 that was part of his response about Next Level patience:

“I can imagine that sometimes, as some of the classroom watches these tapes, they can recognize that there’s a certain amount of relationship that I might be having with the viewer on the other end of that camera that might be slightly different from my relationship with them at times. I think we’ve even discussed it. In a sense, I almost feel like a twice-removed…or a grandfather speaking to a grandchild. Of course, I’m speaking to you as someone who might be wondering if they are standing outside of the vehicle that they are using, and wondering if they want to take it over and pursue this. And since we are given the task of trying to give that to you, and since we’re so eager for you to participate in it, for it to become yours, then we are influenced by that.”

Then in session 9 DO indicates that he might end up being a “grandfather” to those watching this video because graduate students might then become “teachers”

(Since making these tapes were the “Step” given to him from his Older Member, TI (while Ti was outside the vehicle Ti took), DO didn’t know at that time they’d all be exiting together and he didn’t know if He would exit before them, which he also addressed by referring to people coming in this direction towards connection with Him and His Kingdom afterwards as needing to seek to “connect” with an “Active Student”. See the documents, “DO’s Intro: Purpose – Belief” and “Away Team” from Deep Space Surfaces Before Departure
By Jwnody – dated April 8, 1996):

“But I want to make the point a little bit more clearly that these sessions and these tapes are, in a sense, teaching tools for the students – to get that idea a little more clearly in our heads. In other words, my relationship with you in a sense is symbolic, and in a sense it isn’t. If this task proceeds, my relationship with you might end up being more as grandfather to grandson, and these students might serve more in the capacity as teacher since they are older than you. I don’t know if that has clarified in your mind, but it might have if other things that we have said had added up at this time. If they have completed sufficient overcoming of their own in this task, and they received instruction to put the information out, even though the way that instruction came was to do it in this method, then they are in a real sense going to serve in the teacher role with you, or in a sense, in the “midwifing” or the father relationship, if you don’t use that as a spiritual term. In other words, if they have completed enough overcoming that they could move right now into our Father’s Kingdom, and even move into a physical vehicle of our Father’s Kingdom, no longer occupying the vehicle they are in, whether this one or the one that they’re in is changed over into that new vehicle or another one altogether, then they don’t need to come back to the human kingdom unless sent. That’s the instruction we have received – that that’s the case.”

Now my use of the term “Adult” came from DO, but I don’t know how to locate it, but may be in the audio tapes we have access to as I believe he would have said it while Ti was incarnate. I recall DO saying that the term adultery meant, “not becoming an adult”, which in it’s purest form means that person has compromised their commitment to the teachings of the most current Older Member REP from the Next Level. That commitment or said as “covenant” grew with each trimester in the overall “overcoming classroom” to where by Ti and Do’s arrival meant to have no commitment to anyone else besides DO (As TI instructed us to “make our committal to DO).

Update: I found one place where that was documented in a little booklet Ti and Do and a crew put together that I only first saw after we moved into houses around 1980. It was called “Ruffles Snacks for Thinkers”.

-“To commit adultery could mean that one fails to act like an adult.”

-“Man does not have to see things as he always saw them before. Man is designed to see things as he never saw them before—to see them in a higher way than ever before. This is the kind of change that must take place before man becomes an adult.”

Here is a link to Ruffles on my blog: https://sawyerhg.wordpress.com/2016/11/29/ruffles-snacks-for-thinkers/

But I also thought I read or heard that term “adult” used as referring to a Next Level Older or Younger Member vehicle, neither of which any of the Luciferian fallen angel space aliens ever had. (DO indicated in Session 1 of the Beyond Human Series that the vehicle Lucifer had when he was serving in the Next Level was “certainly not born of woman”. This is recorded in Beyond Human Session 1. Here is that segment:

“We’ve already discussed that we believe that in the Jewish and Christian literature, the physical record is there connecting those people with the real Kingdom of God. And they speak of someone else. They speak of an individual that was once in the household of God, in the literal Heavens, was a son of God and
got too big for his britches, and thought that he could do a better job than his Father, or his Older Member. Not that he was born of a wife of his Father, because the body that he had in the Kingdom of Heaven was certainly not born of woman. Don’t forget that in the Kingdom of Heaven, babies are born by the souls that overcome the human condition. When they overcome the human condition and then are moved into the Kingdom of Heaven, then they’re “babies.” And those that took them in are then like their foster parents or their keepers, their babysitters, their teachers, their rabbi’s, their connection, their “piece of pipe,” their link with the Chief of Chiefs of that Kingdom.”

DO refers to “babies” in the Next Level and how their vehicles are grown as “Next Level bodies” in “’88 UPDATE – THE UFO TWO AND THEIR CREW”: (The Luciferians never graduated to receive Next Level bodies, though they weren’t born of woman either so must have been some model of physical vehicle that still had the capacity to act in mammalian ways).

“Our understanding is that Next Level bodies (the normal bodies for that Kingdom level, in the same way that human bodies are the norm for the human kingdom) are grown as plants from a vine, and at the end of their gestation period, they are fully grown and functional, not “babies” as are the products of human “seed-bearing plants.” There seem to be actual grafting processes used and genetic binding from Older Members. “I am the vine, ye are the branches” – could that mean something more than previously thought?”

In the Blackhawk audio tapes DO talks about how Adam’s body, (though also not born of woman) went through a “reverse metamorphosis” into human behaviors. Since Ti and Do taught that the Adam experiment was set up to become a testing ground for new membership for Souls who had grown to some equivalent degree to the Luciferian souls, I surmised that Adam’s vehicle may have been of some equivalence to the vehicles grown for the Luciferians to use when they began to serve the Next Level in crews in spacecrafts.

If you ever come upon the use of Adult or Student in reference to a Next Level “grown” vehicle please let me know. But I may cease using those terms and replace them with more appropriate terms that are regularly used by Ti and Do and Crew even though it may require more words.

 

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Pineapple Press and CNN produce new podcast and doc with some new looks at TI and DO’s infamous Heaven’s Gate

October 11, 2017

There are two new broadcasts re: Heaven’s Gate about to be aired.

The first one is produced by the Pineapple Press, a 10 part podcast series that starts for premium members of Stitcher.com today October 10, 2017 and will be broadcast on Stitcher for free on October 18, 2017.

Snap Judgement’s Glynn Washington is the host.

Heaven’s Gate
https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/stitcher/heavens-gate

The second one is by CNN and is to be aired on October 29, 2017. Here is a brief lead to their broadcast:

The Mystery of Heaven’s Gate (airdate: Oct. 29) In the mid-1970s, hundreds of people begin disappearing without a trace. Distraught families are left wondering about their loved ones for decades, until March of 1997, when shocking news about a mysterious religious group makes headlines around the world. Told through exclusive interviews with those who experienced this event firsthand…this episode follows the story of Heaven’s Gate.

This story was produced as part of season two of this series listed entirely via this link:

HLN True Crime Docuseries “How It Really Happened with Hill Harper” Returns for Second Season Oct. 15

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Here are a couple articles announcing the podcast broadcast:

New podcast investigates Heaven’s Gate ritualistic mass suicide
http://www.10news.com/home/new-podcast-investigates-heavens-gate-ritualistic-mass-suicide

ABC10 out of Los Angeles report by Amanda Brandels – amanda.brandeis@10news.com <amanda.brandeis@10news.com>;

SAN DIEGO, Calif. (KGTV) – A podcast set to be released this month takes a deeper look into the Heaven’s Gate ritualistic mass suicide, which left 39 people dead in a Rancho Santa Fe mansion.

Produced by Stitcher, listeners will hear from family members, experts and those who still believe in the group’s theological principles.

Host Glynn Washington, raised in a cult himself, helps uncover new insights and perspectives about the event, which rocked the nation and world.

A first glimpse of the podcast is available here.

Listeners can subscribe now and listen to the first episode on Oct. 18.

You can listen to the podcast one week early and ad-free by becoming a premium member.

Stitcher is owned by the parent company of 10News, the E.W. Scripps Company.

Copyright 2017 Scripps Media, Inc. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

Heaven’s Gate
https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/stitcher/heavens-gate

twitter: @heavensgateshow
facebook /heavensgateshow
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Here is another article:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/missing-richard-simmons-host-dan-taberski-joins-heavens-gate-podcast-1046028

‘Missing Richard Simmons’ Host Dan Taberski Joins ‘Heaven’s Gate’ Podcast (Exclusive)

8:33 AM PDT 10/5/2017 by Natalie Jarvey

The 10-episode project, which will explore what led to one of the largest mass suicides in U.S. history, will be hosted by Glynn Washington.

Dan Taberski is reuniting with the team behind Missing Richard Simmons for a new podcast that will explore what happened inside the Heaven’s Gate cult.

The Missing Richard Simmons host is joining Heaven’s Gate as a writer. The 10-episode project will be hosted by Glynn Washington of Snap Judgment.

Washington told The Hollywood Reporter that the podcast won’t just focus on the mass suicide of Heaven’s Gate members; it will also delve into the lives of the people who joined the group and seek to answer questions about how the suicide happened.

Washington spoke to family members, survivors and other people involved with Heaven’s Gate for the project. “These people are real people who made real choices for real reasons, and we wanted to explore that,” he said.

Washington explained that his interest in the topic comes from his own background growing up in a cult (his family was a part of a religious organization called the Worldwide Church of God). “The lens through which the project is viewed is my own,” he said. “I can’t do this without bringing my own background to these questions.”

Washington said that Taberski was an important addition to the team. “He’s got a great touch as a writer,” he added. “Bringing Dan on is a demonstration of how much excitement [there is] about this project and the commitment to making sure that it works.”

Heaven’s Gate hails from Stitcher, which is a part of E.W. Scripps’ Midroll Media podcasting division, and is being produced in collaboration with Pineapple Street Media. It is set to premiere Oct. 18. The trailer can be listened to here.

Natalie.Jarvey@thr.com
twitter: @natjarv
HollywoodReporter.com

 

Introduction to Ti and Do’s Heaven’s Gate by Sawyer

October 6, 2017

I have had a stock statement I always sent to people who come to my facebook page and request to become a “friend”. I just updated it since some new media is being publicized by a couple big media groups who I gave interviews to. That’s what follows:

Introduction to Ti and Do’s Heaven’s Gate by Sawyer

For the record, I am not starting a group or cult or trying to be anyone’s leader, or teacher, nor fostering any kind of relationship with anyone sexual or otherwise beyond communications related to my 19 years of experience as a student in Ti and Do’s “classroom”. The “classroom” as it was under Ti and Do’s direction does not and can not exist anymore. And I’ve never kept track of who tells me they believe in Ti and Do.

I discourage anyone who tells me they are considering suicide. That has happened several times over the years.

I don’t believe anyone now is in the same place as those 38 students who laid down their human lives in 1997. Dying is not an automatic ticket into Heaven as has been generally taught in some religious and spiritual belief systems. DO and Crew wrote,

“We know that it is only while we are in these physical vehicles (bodies) that we can learn the lessons needed to complete our own individual transition, as well as to complete our task of offering the Kingdom of Heaven to this civilization one last time. We take good care of our vehicles so they can function well for us in this task, and we try to protect them from any harm.”

You can read more about how they thought about suicide in this document that is posted on the Heavens Gate Website that I re-posted to my blog at:

https://sawyerhg.wordpress.com/2016/11/23/our-position-against-suicide-by-do-and-crew-posted-on-heavensgate-com/

Further perspectives of suicide are explained in a document one of Ti and Do’s students wrote that was included in their Heaven’s Gate Book, along with many other subjects is here:

https://sawyerhg.wordpress.com/2013/12/20/evolutionary-rights-for-victims/

Here is a link to Ti and Do’s first public statement written in 1975:

https://sawyerhg.wordpress.com/2016/11/14/ti-and-dos-first-statement/

A free download is still available of DO and Crews Book entitled, ‘How and When “Heaven’s Gate” (The Door to the Physical Kingdom Level Above Human) May Be Entered’, from their website:

http://www.heavensgate.com

Though I know well my two former classmates who still maintain that website, I have no affiliation.

I provide most of the same documents, plus links to the Beyond Human video series and other related materials TI and DO and Crew made on my blog at:

https://sawyerhg.wordpress.com/2016/11/25/book-appendix-links/
(This document is the appendix of my book)

Here is a link to one of three audio tapes that were recorded of both Ti and Do speaking. There are many more available freely to those who ask for them:

Blackhawk 1 of 3 – Ti and Do re adam eve lucifers prison

To see some of what DO wrote about the Space Aliens in an informational ad placed in USA Today on May 27 1993:
https://sawyerhg.wordpress.com/2011/06/27/usa-today-adstatement-may-27-1993-by-do-the-rev-6-applewhite-horse/

To see what DO wrote when he felt it time to state he was the return of the same Soul who was incarnate in the vehicle named Jesus. He never said he was “Jesus” because Jesus was the name of the vehicle an Older Member from the Next Level took to perform his task through:

https://sawyerhg.wordpress.com/2015/10/22/undercover-jesus-surfaces-before-departure/

My book, entitled, ‘TI and DO The Father and “Jesus” Heaven’s Gate UFO Two Witnesses’ is available for free and for purchase as an ebook and/or softcover.

Here is the link to my book web site that also includes a big section of the book on the blog there:

http://www.tianddothefatherandjesusheavensgateufotwowitnesses.com/
(Purchasing it through this link goes through my publisher so is not the most economical way to get the softcover.)

My book is free by copying and pasting from my blog. Here is the link to the first of seven sections of the book. It’s very long so I had to break it up to post it all:

https://sawyerhg.wordpress.com/2017/01/26/ti-and-do-the-father-and-jesus-heavens-gate-ufo-two-witnesses/
(Just search my blog on the title for the remaining 6 sections)

More economical and practical ways to get my book is by buying the ebook using a Kindle reader off of Amazon and/or as a softcover on Barnes and Nobel and like I said through my publisher who also has a number of other ebook formats available.

For the record, though I do collect royalties for book sales, I did not write it to make money with. To make money with it, there were many other ways to write it.

Though I believe the writing of this book was a task Ti and Do offered me to do, I can’t prove that to anyone as I never received that task from their mouth, so perhaps it’s not. I did not leave their “classroom” to perform such task. I flunked out and simply have another chance to learn the lessons I needed to learn.

The book’s content attempts to bring evidence of how Ti and Do were the fulfillment of all of Jesus’ (Second Coming) prophecies to include the Book of Revelations, though much of that material is still in process of fulfillment. I did a great deal of translation examination that took me into the Hebrew/Aramaic and Greek word manuscript origins.

Plus I always strove to stay in context. Ti and Do always said that the Next Level worked very hard to preserve an accurate enough record of what Jesus said, as seen in a red letter edition of the New Testament.

Believe it or not, that doesn’t make me religious or even Christian, in the ways those labels imply. They are historic records and the religions arose as a distortion and dilution of what Jesus taught, mostly occurring by the varied interpretations of those records.

Also for the record, there are some who have posed as facebook “friends” trying to catch or harass me in some way, which I know is part of the territory to deal with, which is why I say all this to new “friends”. I never make a friend requests though I have joined some groups to be included in certain conversations to share some of what I’ve learned as I know there are some who are interested when they hear certain perspectives about Ti and Do and Crew.

However I never automatically preach or bring up Ti and Do but am also not slow to talk about them should something they say stimulate a perspective I got from them.

There is a heavensgate facebook group that I did not start but I was included as a owner of the group. I only keep it active to keep it away from charlatans, however seemingly well intended. I only say this to explain it’s presence on my facebook page Sawyerhg.wordpress.com since it would appear to be a group I support but do not.

Many of the friends on this facebook page are simply curious and most often I don’t know who believes in Ti and Do and to what degree and don’t seek to find out. There are a few exceptions who have helped me with little projects and to which I have helped them with their little projects, like videos.

But there are no secret pacts or plots or core new believers. We each only answer to Ti and Do in our individual relationships the same as anyone, whether people know of Ti and Do or not.

Many of us humans have had a real relationship with the Next Level, thinking of Them as their Heavenly Father or their Higher Power or God or Allah or Buddha or Krishna, etc. At the same time many use such terms and think they have a connection they don’t as Jesus said would happen during this time period especially. Even so we can’t judge another in this regard. Even if a human is acting in ways that are contrary to Next Level qualifying behaviors and ways, none of us know when they might change and how fast.

Ti and Do indicated that there are no other Older Members on earth to perform this task and none to come during this civilization so anyone who claims to be their return or their reincarnation or to be receiving information from them, like as a channel or as a remote viewer, contactee or psychic reader, or using the name Jesus or other Biblical figures as in the Two Witnesses are either deluded, even tricked by the various lower forces or lying.

TI and DO said that choosing to become an atheist can be a good step away from religion and spirituality, though all paths in the human kingdom can lead to the top of the human mountain. However, there is only one way off that mountain top and that’s by going through the lesson steps provided by someone who evolved beyond the human kingdom, evidenced by their teaching the separation from the human kingdom (even though it will be in degrees and always by our own choices).

One of ways to correctly interpret the term antichrist could be as one who is anti the Christing process that of course Jesus established. That “process” is the overcoming process that each human must engage by seeking the Mind (holy spirit) – from the Next Level via the information they taught while incarnate. Calling on the name Jesus can be answered by any number of discarnates or Luciferian space alien fallen angel souls which is part of why Jesus taught to project our asking to our “Father in Heaven” as the discarnates and space aliens can not actually travel very far from the earth anymore.

Thus when we see “signs” in outer space, perhaps as near as the moon, since Jesus said they would be in the Sun, Moon and Stars that would include planets and comets, etc., they are from the Next Level.

I am transparent with my life but not with personal info or the personal info on any other former members of the group who I still have some contact with whether they still believe in Ti and Do or not.

If you wish to review my little bio, for whatever it might be worth, it’s found on my blog at:
https://sawyerhg.wordpress.com/2014/01/11/sawyers-storyraptured-by-the-rev-11-two-witnesses-bo-dojesus-and-peeptifathers-second-coming/

How Sawyer fell by giving into sexuality in Ti & Do’s classroom and then dropping out by choice:
https://sawyerhg.wordpress.com/2011/10/01/sawyers-experience-with-sexuality-in-ti-dos-classroom/

Here are some Q and A but there are a lot more on my blog:

I was asked if I still followed the teachings of Ti and Do.

Sawyer’s reply: yes, as best I can, like according to the “Major and Lesser Offenses” and the “17 Steps” and other guidelines, though in this very different application, not having Ti or Do or fellow classmates present and having gone back into the world and started a human family, who I continue to help (now 20 yr old daughter), but I have had no relationships or sexuality with anyone for the last four years. However, I do find myself slipping in some of the behaviors at times so it’s a continuous process to maintain. When we slip from the standards, whether they are Ti and Do’s and/or the Jesus standards, it’s important not to let that become a reason to become separate minded from Ti and Do, that is if we want to be of one Mind with them. We can easily think that if I don’t do everything perfectly I might as well not do anything – a Luciferian ploy to turn our eyes away from doing our best for Ti and Do and their Next Level. The Next Level doesn’t need any of us to believe in them in any way. We must qualify to their standards though they give us lots of help and time to do. The traps are many but we can recover from all of them to keep moving forward.

To someone who says they have started a “Heaven’s Gate Militia” I replied:

I don’t condone violence against the govt or anyone. If we were to think of ourselves as soldiers for Ti and Do (of the real Jesus) it would be by use of our mouth – in words – the words that Ti and Do and Jesus provided us (that they also said included the red letters in the gospels, and their references to the Book of Revelations to help people see their ideas, perspectives and qualifications to become a prospective member of their Next Level Above Human.

The truth about Ti and Do will soon be lost as upon their exit started the gradual diminishing of the “light” they brought to the world. If you want a bundle of their materials give me an email address as the bundle includes audio files of meetings within the group since the early 1980’s that I was present for.

There are many misconceptions abounding and in Christian circles. Many started with the writings of Paul of Tarsus who never knew Jesus and never received instruction from him, nor was he tasked as a delegate (apostle) on his behalf. An Older Member doesn’t come incarnate if there is any other way to teach their student body what it takes to make application into membership in the Next Level.

For Christians to base what they believe on what Moses wrote, except for the things Jesus said to believe and act on, is like applying lessons given to toddler Souls when by the Jesus time they could be having a high school curriculum approaching graduation.

For instance Ti and Do were not pro or con abortion. They are always pro choice though our choices are not always going to be what they would choose and it’s not easy knowing what they would choose unless we ask them to reveal it to us.

Ti and Do said it was against their Next Level ways to be making weapons designed to kill other humans let alone using them for killing. There is no justification, but that’s to please the Next Level, which is always a choice.

Ti and Do said that it doesn’t matter one’s sexual preferences as to graduate the human kingdom one must become non-sexual because Members of the Next Level are non-sexual so one needs to build their Mind starting in the human kingdom to be “born” into their kingdom. I recall DO saying that those who are homosexual have overcome gender consciousness, though not necessarily sexual consciousness.

Ti and Do said we were all striving to be “color blind” in terms of race so we don’t act any differently to someone based on the race of their vehicle.

TI and DO were supportive of euthanasia when a human vehicle is so wrought with pain and/or has no capacity any longer to function and/or have experiences to learn lessons through.

There really is no comparison with Ti and Do and any other cults. Ti and Do referred to their group as the “cult of cults” and the “cult of truth”. There is a great deal of evidence of how Ti and Do had a way of naturally filtering out those who were not serious enough to go the full distance of graduating though they always treated each student as if they could go that full distance.

There were no abuses and there is no dirt in the Ti and Do story. Some have tried to find dirt and didn’t find any, even after listening to hundreds of hours of audio tapes. Even a number of dropouts who ceased to believe in Ti and Do have next to nothing to say against them. One said that they didn’t provide enough dental care options to students, though I got plenty of dental care. Yes there were lots of rules that developed over time but never any yelling or use of guilt or punishments or other human behaviors that are common in many organizations.

Sawyer’s Defense of Accusations Made by Former Classmate Carlan

September 19, 2017

For those that don’t know, this has gone on for probably close to ten years now. If anyone wants to see most of the history search my blog for Carlan or Crlody or Crl ody. I have claimed he makes things up, thus lies. Other times he has a point I take to heart. I have always said to him or anyone else that I’m open to criticism but it does little good to just throw out opinions when the point to this blog is to bring as much experience as I can to what Ti and Do taught. I am not against Carlan. I respect him but that doesn’t mean what he says is automatically true any more than what I say is automatically true. Ti and Do are the ultimate judges of each of us.

Here is Carlan aka Crlody’s latest list of accusations against me (in two sections) and what I am saying in my defense. I took apart his latest comment on this blog and made them into a list so I could address each and add to them if he brings up more. I want him to have his voice and I welcome constructive criticism but most of these points to me are trite and without substance as they are all about what he thinks I think about myself and how I justify what I do in writing the book, “TI and DO The Father and “Jesus” Heaven’s Gate UFO Two Witnesses” that he opposes for some reason I have yet to understand, except in the way we all know that the more we continue the war of words against the Luciferian fallen angel space alien souls and their human pawns (who don’t usually know they are pawns).

That “war” is fought by revealing more of  what’s true about Ti and Do which includes how Ti and Do were 100% consistent with all Jesus taught in the 4 gospel records (as Ti and Do said those writings could still be counted upon to be accurate because the Next Level worked very hard to be sure they remained in tact to provide clues for returning Next Level Members.

So I am putting it on record so I can just refer to it next time he posts these things as he has done many times, though I hope that’s never necessary as there are going to be much, much bigger issues to deal with in the upcoming months for all who come in this direction of “standing for Ti and Do” which is the primary and perhaps only way to stand up for the real Jesus at this time, that is for those who know about Ti and Do. Those who never hear of Ti and Do are judged by they own choices as are all, but are judged differently that those who learn about Ti and Do and Crew and ignore or go against them in some way.

Ti and Do’s judgement of us is never exercised by us as we don’t have that capacity to judge others value to the Next Level no matter what they have done, though we don’t condone breaking of the Next Level’s commandments that Jesus gave the most recent summary of in his gospels.

SECTION ONE:

So each point below was copied from what Carlan wrote followed by my reply:

1) If you believe in Ti and Do so strongly why would you continue to stay here for over 20 years after Do extended an invitation to leave?

Sawyer’s reply:

Because it’s my choice to not leave at this time.

2) Why do you care more about your blog and videos than the audio tapes made by Ti and Do?

Sawyer’s reply:

I don’t value my blog more than the audio tapes. They are not comparable in any way and as I’ve said over and over to you, we have what we have of the audio tapes and I KNOW it’s enough or Ti and Do would have seen to it that we had them all. Even so, what can I do about it. I tried a number of times to get Mark to give or sell them. You keep bringing this up yet where is your plan of action to get them. Why did DO and Crew say so many times in the letters sent to them that it was their task to decide how to handle the contents of storage and a number of other aspects.

Now I have a question, which I’ve asked before but seldom if any get a response from you…

Why did Rkkody give the audio tape masters back to Mark, even the masters pre Ti’s exit that he had copied by then? Why didn’t he copy them all first since he was suspicious of Mark and Sarah’s intentions to do the right thing, as I understand it.

I recall Gnrody telling me on the phone that right after the exit event, Sarah said to Gnrody something to the affect of, “how could they do this to us”. If I were Rkkody and heard that and knew that Mark had turned over the task to retrieve the contents of storage and had blacked out their names on one or more of those letters they received from the Class, (I don’t recall why some were blacked out while another wasn’t), I would be quite suspicious of their choices thereafter. But perhaps he took the high side and figured they had a change of mind. And since he read those letters he knew it was the intention of DO that Mark and Sarah have that task of deciding what to do with the storage contents, even though it was spelled out that Rkkody and Oscody could be used to retrieve the contents.

But maybe I’m wrong about how that all developed. If so what can you share about that and Rkkody’s choices to give all the tape masters to Mark and Sarah?

3) Why do you repeatedly bring up your 19 years in the Class as if that somehow makes you the most qualified individual on the planet to talk about Ti and Do?

Sawyer’s reply:

I bring up the 19 years because it’s true and experience can have value. I agree that it doesn’t have to be of value. But when someone asks a question, such as about when Ti scheduled the pickup in around 1980, I can tell the truth as I experienced it because I was there. So people will know that I am a first hand witness from almost the start in 1975.

I admit wholeheartedly that it’s not a measure of who I am or how dedicated I am to Ti and Do or that I learned a certain amount of lessons because of or that I know Ti and Do better than anyone else. What I have are more examples of things they said and did and in some cases why when they told us.

Whether that makes me the most qualified on the planet to talk about Ti and Do is beyond my scope to think about and doesn’t float my boat at all, as grandiose as that sounds. Yet I MAY BE one of the most qualified to do so? You would also be one of the most qualified to talk about what you experienced because we both still believe in them so no matter how much time we spent at it, we both retained that recognition and that I believe is worth a great deal more to our prospect towards pleasing Ti and Do than any time amount. There were also over 60 ody’s originally, some of which have some number in the teens in the classroom. If they retained the memories some might be able to tell me things I didn’t know and thus I wouldn’t be all that highfalutin.

I have never said that to intimidate you and I’ve never told people how long you were in the classroom. Perhaps if were in reverse shoes I could be troubled by your saying that.

Why can’t I bring it up, that’s the bigger question I have for you? Do I have to walk on eggshells in that regard because it appears to others impressive and yet to others more proof that I was duped and/or had some hidden mental condition that didn’t alert me sooner to giving myself to cult leaders, thus then a deficiency to admit.

4) One of the main reasons why I know that your “mission” is entirely self-appointed is because you are so absolutely sure that its from Ti and Do, you don’t even seem to question it.

Sawyer’s reply:

In my opinion any of those who choose to take on the service of “standing for Ti and Do” – who take on that “project,” (as Do and Crew called it), to disseminate their information (I believe in all the ways that can happen, by voice or written word or by sending documents they wrote) so that people can “have a more thorough knowledge of what they were about” (as paraphrased from one of the letters sent to Mark and Sarah, that you sent me), with the class or a new believer is because of their choice “self-appointing” themselves to take on the tasks DO appointed in writing (but not specifically to individuals), with the exception of those who were outside the classroom they mentioned in the letters, though it was also broadened in the letter to say it applied to anyone who chose to take on that project.

So maybe it was a mistake to share my many dreams and thus shot myself in the foot to tell you and others about them, sort of setting you up by implying I got the dreams and you didn’t (or perhaps you didn’t share them), so that could be seen as being lessor to Ti and Do. But to me I was so asleep, perhaps I needed those dreams to wake up a little more and at the same time could go to my head as being someone special because of them and also challenge those who hadn’t.

And by the way, I never said or thought I was “absolutely sure” I have a task from Ti and Do to write about Jesus prophecy as that indication was never in any of the dreams. I admit getting that idea from the prophecy in Rev 5:1 regarding the “book written from within the throne” and the “backside” (of the book) and in Rev 10 regarding the “Little Book” not to be spoken about until the 7th Angels trumpet sounding time that happens after the Two Witnesses have ascended back to their heavenly abodes and another indication of prophecy talk in Rev 14, after the 4 Living Beings and 24 Elders had exited that is performed in the “mid-heaven” (middle heaven) (which I suspect referred to the internet primarily).

But if it was a task in addition to the project to disseminate their information and “stand for Ti and Do”, I still don’t know that I had and am performing that task to their liking.

And for the record it wasn’t one dream. There were over 10 perhaps, but some of the earliest ones sort of merge together in my memory, and not counting some that I highly suspect were counterfeits of Do and some students I suspected from what they said and what they didn’t say or what it felt like. But pertaining to having a writing task, as I interpreted it, 1 was from Ti in 2001, 2 from DO a couple years later and a number of years after that, 2-3 or so from Students: Jwnody, Lggody (indirectly) and years later from Lvvody and Jnnody and Nrrody if I recall. I had other dreams where Do was correcting me and others where Ti seemed to help me see Spirits for a couple months in three different settings but overall maybe 6 or 7 times and then I saw nothing and that was all over years ago.

5) You actually seem to expect the world to believe you just because of your interpretation of a dream that you had. You get very defensive whenever I state that your mission is self-appointed and you always bring up your 19 years of service as if that means that I should accept the things that you say. I don’t accept what Mark says or Rio the self-appointed “soul surviving member” so why should I believe a word that you say?

Sawyer’s reply:

No, I don’t expect anyone to believe or disbelieve anything I say but anyone could and don’t see any reason to think their coming into belief because of my instrumentation would be a negative whatsoever as I keep no records of who says what and when and about what and often don’t recall names and get no monetary reward so just how humanly self serving is it? I don’t really get turned on by people elevating me in my vehicle.

I’m not responsible for what Rio or anyone else says, so why do you make that comparison as if you are the supreme judge of everyone? Can you tell me why that keeps coming up?

6) You left the Class like many, many others and you had no interest in helping RKK distribute Their Info after They left, which was Their final instruction, get our information out.

Sawyer’s reply:

I didn’t even know about what Rkkody was doing then. I had fallen way back into human life but you bring up this point over and over again. If I were to take that point of view I could say I was out spreading Ti and Do’s information in 1975 and 1994 while you were not. What does that have to do with anything?

I suspect you are just copying and pasting this comment to me, making accusations that make no sense. At least telling me that I labeled my blog “Sawyer at Heaven’s Gate” is relative to all we are talking about, however important or not, which by the way I did fix to read “Sawyer’s Application to Ti and Do’s Heaven’s Gate”. But I need to shorten that.

7) They didn’t say anything about you writing a book or making videos or your blog or altering the audio tapes by putting your flute music on it. You have claimed to have “contacts” with the NL and then accused me of making that up and then when I pointed out where you stated that you said I “took it out of context”.

Sawyer’s reply:

When did I alter the audio tapes by putting my flute music on them? There’s no flute music on the Blackhawk tapes and those are the only ones I posted on my YouTube channel. Perhaps someone else used my music in that way but I don’t recall that, so perhaps you can point me to where that is happening. Perhaps you could have asked me if I authorized that before adding it to your list of beefs against me. And even so, why do you think it’s justified to make up “commandments” like, Thou shalt not put flute music on Do’s audio tapes. That’s what the Catholics and Jews and others did after the REP left – they made up their own rules and twisted rules to suit what they wanted to do. If you could show me where Ti and Do would have frowned on such a thing I would take it off as perhaps I did slip in that regard. Oh, perhaps you are referring to my use of flute music on my blogtalkradio site. Maybe I did do that years ago. It sort of rings a bell now but even so why not. Were you as critical of Rkkody’s making mugs and stuff to try to generate income to help him distribute tapes? I wouldn’t do that but don’t know that Ti and Do would object to either.

Yes I have claimed to have contact with the Next Level and maybe I did say you took it out of context. You are referring to my book I think. When I searched it down I realized that you were right but then when I read it again, I realized we all have that contact if we seek it out. That’s what “prayer” is based on – seeking to “contact” the Next Level “Heavenly Fathers” – what Ti and Do at times called, “picking up the phone”. I didn’t claim to have exclusive contact and I didn’t claim that it was undeniable contact but since Ti and Do did teach that the Next Level used our dream time to help us with the next day’s lessons, so we had instruction very early on to go do sleep asking to have help to “remember our dreams”. Plus we had a few times where DO told us his dream and I think one time I recall with Ti but don’t recall it, though I do recall one Do told us when he was waiting in line and felt like he got hit in the butt and woke up feeling like the message was that he wasn’t as important as he might have thought he was and he actually awoke and hours later could still feel sore on his butt where he got hit somehow. And a time or two Ti and Do had a classmate tell of their dream. I recall Ollody once doing so but don’t recall it’s content. I call those “contact”. Why wouldn’t they be contact?

If they didn’t give instructions to not do something why am I doing something wrong to do it and especially regarding writing a book about them and how all Jesus prophecy proves they were exactly who they said they were/are. The same with my video’s and this blog. Even my little bio is the bio about how my vehicle was picked to be taken by a returning Soul from the Next Level to complete their overcoming through, who failed but who was given another chance, just like the Luciferian fallen angels were given multiple chances (as Ti and Do said on the Blackhawk tapes).

8) You behave as if criticizing you is somehow criticizing Ti and Do and you have had the gall to claim that I “owe” Ti and Do for how I have criticized you.

Sawyer’s reply:

No, you have twisted that. What I criticize about what you say about me is how to accuse me of all these things while not being able to back any of them up with an instruction or behavior or way given to us from Ti and Do. It’s all about you opinion about what I should or shouldn’t do, say or shouldn’t say, think or shouldn’t think (as you often fill in the gaps with assumptions about what I’m thinking).

Re: my saying that you might be criticizing Ti and Do, had to do with your constant attack on me claiming that I don’t care about the remaining tapes not being released, which by the way isn’t true as I do care but not so much that I think it hampers anyone from growing closer to Ti and Do, because I trust that if we needed those tapes Ti and Do would have saw to it that Rkkody got all the tapes to copy or that Mark and Sarah would have had a change of heart. I don’t think Do made a mistake by not arranging to have the tapes split up among the ones he had the other materials split up between or by not having them all transcribed, a task I participated in while in the classroom, or by having them all copied and digitized professionally or by the computer people in the classroom. I don’t doubt for a minute that he would have explored the options while asking Ti what to do. So I think he didn’t get instructions to do any differently than he did or he got instructions to do exactly what he did by putting them all in storage and then instructing Mark and Sarah to get them or giving that task to Rkkody and Oscody, which ended up happening. I can’t speak to your strong feelings about this but I can speak to your condemnation of me for not going along with the degree of your anger over any other opinion/interpretation from your own as to the content of the letters that clearly give the task of deciding what to do with the contents of storage to Mark and Sarah regardless of DO and Crews hope that they would choose to disseminate them the same as with all the materials that is also very clear in the letters.

So you’ve made it your mission to follow me around on this blog and YouTube channel to “stop me” as you told me, which I guess meant stop me from talking, writing, making video’s and yet that’s not a task Do gave you did he? It’s interesting how several others really took to your mission to stop me when they got wind of your regular comments in that regard a year or two ago and yet it’s all from shallow opinions, without even circumstantial evidence from things Ti and Do taught that includes all of what Jesus taught in the 4 gospels.

I wish we could have a truce as I’ve spent hours defending myself and trying to at times make the shoe fit and wore it a few times I admit but to abide by your opinions that I should say and write nothing of my experience and just send people document packets when they ask questions doesn’t feel like the only way Ti and Do would have us disseminate their information and especially at this time when I believe it’s the extension of the Second and LAST “WAVE” that started in the 1990’s and complete phase one by 1997. (Jwnody called the book/website “phase one” if I recall and said they didn’t know if there would be another phase.)

9) Your mission is not from Ti and Do. Your mission is for the purpose of getting attention for yourself but your righteousness blinds you to that. No, I cant “prove” it to you just like you cant prove that you are on a task for the NL. Your “mission” is just an excuse to continue to stay here. Interesting that you went out of your way to find fault with me for wrestling with staying on this planet. Why would you find fault with someone who doesn’t want to be here? Is it because you’re afraid to leave here but you refuse to admit it? I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that those thoughts of yours don’t come from the NL. Maybe its you who owes Ti and Do an explanation for why you care more about what you have to say about the NL than what They had to say.

Sawyer’s reply:

What did I say that found fault with your wanting to not stay on this planet? Please be specific. I remember when you were hinting at planning to exit. I might admit that was over 10 years ago and at that time I was still dealing with an influence who didn’t want to consider exiting, though I asked DO if I needed to prepare myself to exit as they did, so I wasn’t that far gone then or I wouldn’t have had the courage to ask that question. For the record he came to me in a dream immediately after that and said only, “You need to give your life,” something I can imagine him saying and I admit feeling relieved to hear that as it gave me the option and decided right then to give my life by telling the truth knowing that the chips might fall to where someone accelerates me out of this vehicle because of.

But even if I did say something to you about your desire to exit, which I don’t recall directly talking about, but do recall your hinting about so I may have said something about that you recall as “find fault” with that desire, at that time I also broke through that influence and ceased shying away from the fact that Do left the gate open for a short period of time that may or may not have passed. I would guess it hasn’t passed. But I was also being potentially snared by at least two people at different times who told me they were thinking about exiting because they thought they would come back to a better life. I didn’t know if they were just trying to snare me into encouraging their suicide or were deluded to thinking death of their vehicle would solve their problems in life. One said he had been living on the street in Philadelphia and he acted as if he believed in Ti and Do but then would say things about his mission he was given while on another planet to come to earth to lead people and was making up a mixture of Ti and Do terms with a complete spiritual “ye are god’s” mindset, which I pointed out to him and a lot of this is still on my blog. The other person was a different story altogether. That’s when I put together the full breath of all the things DO and Class wrote on exiting and saw that Stmody wrote about how “suicide” to escape life lessons wasn’t of value. You can call that looking for justification not to leave but that’s not your business to point out to me. Why would anyone want anyone to exit when they don’t feel it’s right for them to do. There are people all the time who appear to so easily try to commit suicide. I don’t know if they hate the world and perhaps they all have their Souls saved but perhaps not.

I’m also frightened by the idea that some might get so angry with the facts I know about how Ti and Do fulfill all the prophecies that someone might eventually seek to force my vehicles exit. However, I’m at least brave enough for the moment to continue to push the information out there and willing to exit in that way and frankly don’t disqualify my exiting as They did. That option looked a whole lot easier when I was in pain from Lymes disease and couldn’t walk. When life in the vehicle is miserable it’s a whole lot easier to want to exit and also when life is going fairly well enough it’s quite hard to put one’s head on the chopping block, which I am sure has yet to get started for us, while some humans do have a fairly easy life yet witness injustice or take jobs that jeopardize their lives to save others (like firefighters) or whistle blowers, etc. Perhaps they have overcome clinging to their human vehicles but I don’t think Ti and Do would see them in the same light as those who join the military to become hired killers or who strap bombs to their bodies and walk into a crowded square, etc. They aren’t afraid to die either. I do remember writing that I can see Lucifer encouraging people to exit, especially if by doing so they can keep them from disseminating their experience with Ti and Do. But I may have been giving into an influence to think that.

After all, if you were of a mind to exit, what could I say to stop you. I presume you would have already done as Do said and screamed to the Next Level in your privacy to see if it was write for you and that from doing that if it was right you would then have the courage.

When you tell me what is not, I know that you don’t know what is not in regards to my relationship with Ti and Do and what I hear is your own pent up anger and like I said a type of vendetta for when I suggested to someone one time that you found, that I am the most outspoken former member, I said to impress someone by and knew immediately when you confronted me with my saying that, that I had given into an influence to use my mouth in that way – an ego influence I knew I had – a booger I still deal with, though think I have for the moment a handle on but see crop up in my life in various ways in my head. I know how to combat those influences but I admit I can easily be tricked but have never said that since and am not guilty for the thoughts I might have in that regard as Ti and Do taught that what we are guilty about is when we let those thoughts manifest into words and actions.

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new post from carlan:

‘This site is dedicated to the sharing of my experience as a student of Ti and Do for 19 years”. Interesting that you make no mention in your site’s description of the information that the Class left behind with very specific instructions that it be distributed.

Also, no mention that the Information that the Class left behind is going to be more accurate than anything that you have to say, you know, considering that it is Ti and Do instructing the students in the audio tapes and this site is just your own personal feelings and observations since you left the Class. But of course you “don’t care” that the Information that the Class specifically wanted disseminated is being suppressed. You care about your book that was the “little book” mentioned in Revelation because you believe it is part of your “mission” and “task” for the NL.

Say, what did Do think of the prophecies in Revelation that you claim that you are fulfilling by writing your “little book”? “We’re not trying to lock in on what we’re doing with fulfillment of the prophecies in the Book of Revelation, or Isaiah, or anyplace else” Beyond Human, session 11. You’ve called me a “broken record” in the past and yet perhaps you are a broken record by continuing to insist that what you have been doing for the past 15 years is in service to the NL. Just because you make that claim and have conned yourself and your followers into believing it doesn’t necessarily make it true Sawyer. You can’t even keep track of what you say Sawyer. I told you about how you had given me a hard time in a personal message regarding my wrestling with being on planet earth and you asked me to be “more specific”. Like I already said, it was a personal message on fb and the fact that you don”t remember it is maybe an indication that you should think a little bit more before you go giving your unsolicited opinion on what I’m personally wrestling with. I try to keep my criticisms of you to your claims about what you state that you believe that you are doing for the NL. For your own sake it’s great that you decided that your human life was unfulfilling but that doesn’t mean that the NL wanted you to spend 15 years writing your blog, doing blogtalk and making videos with your take on what Ti and Do were all about.

Why should I go to you for info on the NL when the NL left information behind that They very specifically wanted distributed? Compared to the information left behind by Do and the Class ANYTHING that you say about the NL is going to be diluted and colored by your own personal programming. It’s interesting that compared to your rambling blog and videos you seem to have no interest in the audio tapes that were made, including all those that were made after you left. It’s a crime against the NL that Mark and Sarah lied to RKK to obtain the tapes and continue to suppress them even though Mark assured RKK that he would.

As far as I can tell no former class members seem to care, not you, not Rio, not JHN. You once gave me a hard time for having conflicts with former members like the aforementioned individuals. Why would I want to “get along” with those who don’t care about going against Do and the Class’ wishes that Their info be distributed? The same individuals who have lied to glorify themselves in the name of Ti and Do?

No, we’re not in a Class with an OM present and we are not all working towards the same goal and I am not obligated to anyone who is on planet earth. Since the Class is over we’re not all on the same page and I’m not obligated to ANY former class members for anything that I do. RKK and I tried to take the higher side with Rio and the Kings and it was thrown back in our faces. I got along with RKK well enough to make as much of the info available as we could. I’ve been skeptical of you and your mission from the beginning when you started talking about your dreams in which you claimed contact with Do and the Class.

And it’s become clear to me over the years that your primary interest is in having your voice heard, not in distributing Ti and Do’s info. You’ve accused me of making up lies about you when I cited things that you yourself have said and you had the gall to state that I somehow owe Ti and Do for what I’ve said about you.

Maybe you owe Ti and Do for trying to bring Them into it because you can’t remember what you said and when you said it and played the victim when you were held accountable. Maybe you owe RKK for trying to find fault with him fore giving the tapes to Mark when you couldn’t even remember the circumstances of what happened correctly. If it wasn’t for RKK there would be NO audio tapes available, nothing for you to put your flute music over. You should be thanking him instead of being low and petty and trying to find fault with him. Interesting that you thought you would be in a position to point fingers at RKK when you turned down his request for help in carrying out the class’ desires back in 1997. Sounds pretty hypocritical to me. How many hours did you spend digitizing the tapes? How many hours did you spend distributing the materials to libraries across the country? How much of your own $ did you spend on disseminating the Class’ (not your) info? How many FedEx packages did you receive from the Class after They left including the disks with the instructions to upload Their Final statements and Press release?

How many public meetings did you hold where you showed a video of Do and made the materials available and opened yourself up to ridicule and grilling by the press?

I’m saying this to toot RKK’s horn. And you have the arrogance to call what you’re doing on the internet “brave”. I’ve been called all kinds of names online. That doesn’t mean that it takes bravery to state I believe in Ti and Do while sitting behind a keyboard. To your credit you did admit that calling yourself the “most outspoken” proponent of Ti and Do was a mistake but I still see you drawing attention to yourself and wanting recognition for your 19 years in the Class.

Quite frankly, you largely do not know what you’re talking about much of the time. You claimed in one of your writings that RKK had already left the Class when you left in Sept of 94 from the warehouse in Orange Cty, CA. Actually RKK didn’t leave until several months later in the spring of 1995 when the Class was building the earthship in New Mexico.

How many times have you mentioned your 19 years in the Class versus how many times have you tried to draw attention to the audio tapes that were left behind? How many times have you said that you “don’t care” that that audio tapes that the Class wanted to be disseminated are being suppressed? How many times have you mentioned that you had NO interest in helping distribute Their info after They left in 1997 when RKK asked you if you wanted to help?

What if this whole thing that you’ve been doing all these years is for your own ego? Adding your flute music to an audio tape of Ti and Do? In Their final letters They stated that They wanted the information distributed, They didn’t say anything about altering it by adding your personal touch with music.

We got suckered by the lower forces working through Austin into believing that we were serving the NL by catering to Austin’s influences. After that incident it became clear to me how dangerous it was to throw “pearls before swine” and how beyond distributing the info there really is NO task here for the NL as far as any kind of public interface goes.

At times your arrogance is astounding. You may try to deny this one and ask me to be “more specific” but one of the many times that I stated that I was done communicating with you you actually had the gall to say that you hoped I wasn’t giving up on Ti and Do and the NL.

Yes sawyer, because I was sick of your particular brand of b.s. I MUST have been questioning the reality of Ti and Do and the NL.

I’m sure Mark and Sarah believe that by copyrighting and suppressing the Class’ info that they are serving the NL. Rio and Marc probably thought that they were serving the NL by going on Art Bell and attacking RKK and telling lies about him and their tasks.

You seem to believe that everything that you have done online for the past 15 years has been for the Next Level. You have accused me of a “self-righteous vendetta” for daring to hold you accountable for your extraordinary claims that you make in the name of Ti and Do.

But what if you are on a self-righteous and self-appointed mission Sawyer? Do you seriously expect the world to accept your interpretations of dreams that you’ve had and based on that accept that you’re on a mission for the NL? Maybe the reason why you get so defensive and start playing the victim when you are held accountable for your claims is because you aren’t 100% comfortable with your claims?

Maybe this whole mission that you made up for yourself and are trying to get the world to accept is about you wanting attention and recognition just like how Austin used HG to garner attention for himself. I will never believe in your mission and I don’t need you to help me “decide” who to give my “allegiance” to. Maybe the NL doesn’t need you to help individuals decide either? If I were you I’d project an apology to RKK and to Ti and Do for trying to find fault with him, it was a pretty mean-spirited and petty attack on someone who isn’t even here, someone who has shown FAR more dedication to the NL than any of us here considering that he left twice by his own hand. And maybe try being quiet for once and do some introspection instead of whining to the internet yet again about “accusations” against you and playing the martyr card every time that you’re held accountable for the things that you’re doing in Ti and Do’s name. Criticism of you and your made-up mission is not and never will be criticism of Ti and Do and the Next Level despite what you have conned yourself into believing.

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Sawyers responses to Carlan’s comment:
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I do that distribution of the HG Book and the Audio Tapes, etc. as well whenever someone asks. It’s all helping people see in greater depth what Ti and Do were all about as they said was hoped for in the letter sent to Mrc and Srf.

I may have been out of place years ago to spend so much time explaining to people what is in their Book and on the tapes. I did recognize that I was soft peddling their extension of the choice to exit as they did, to go with them to where they were going as opposed to being “saved” from the recycling. But when I saw that I sought to correct it and put together a blog post to show all the ways they thought about our choices going forward and how everyone actually could grow closer to them without feeling like the only choice was to exit in the way they did. I know that is justifying my own choice not to exit by my own hand but it’s not a self justification because the options didn’t come from me. Do spoke about those options in great detail in several of his video’s, exit and Beyond Human video’s and Jwnody wrote about it as well. I know that Ti and Do want us all to make the choices that feel most right to us, whatever they are and along with that do want us to believe in Them because they know they are the ones who have the “key” to that Heaven’s Gate and that all God’s children grow at different rates and that no one else should guilt us into submission. We need to give ourselves to the Next Level because we really want to.

I never found fault with Rkkody at all. I was simply pointing out that he was doing the best he could with his task for the Next Level. I admit bringing up some of his choices – selling mugs and other paraphernalia to offset the cost of distributing the information as his choice to do and NOT WRONG, though I hadn’t seen Ti and Do do that, though in a sense I guess one could say working for humans to put food on the table was in a sense the same kind of thing. And we also sold the Transfiguration Diet book. In fact I sold them during my lunch hour when we lived in Dallas and I was at my out of craft task and had a car because I was the assigned driver in our car pool.

I don’t understand how you could know if Do and Ti and/or certain students did contact me through dreams or not! I don’t expect you to believe that and I don’t expect that I got the right interpretations, if it was from them but they always said the Next Level used our dream time to help us with lessons and perhaps my sharing them was not what DO would have had me do. I know it can look like bragging and like the religious who claim contact with Jesus, etc. Jesus did teach that prayer was private and that one would receive responses to our prayer in private. So I guess I won’t know is that was right to do in this circumstance until I’m back in their company if they choose to save my Soul for another opportunity.

Rkkody never asked me to help him except in some way regarding his exit and I admit at that time being far more asleep than I am now.

I never found fault with Rkkody at all. I was simply pointing out that he was doing the best he could with his task for the Next Level. I admit bringing up some of his choices – trying to sell mugs and other paraphernalia to offset the cost of distributing the information, because of what I saw as a double standard in your judgement of my choices verses his. I see that was another mistake of mine as it seems to have just made you more furious sounding. I had felt to offer you that viewpoint for years but didn’t until I finally did.

I had heard that Mark may have found fault with Rkkody over that but I never did even in my mind. I hadn’t seen Ti and Do do that, though in a sense I guess one could say working for humans to put food on the table was in a sense the same kind of thing. And we also sold the Transfiguration Diet book. In fact I sold them during my lunch hour when we lived in Dallas and I was at my out of craft task and had a car because I was the assigned driver in our car pool.

You don’t know if Do and Ti and certain students did contact me through dreams or not! I don’t expect you to believe that and I don’t expect that I got the right interpretations, if it was from them but they always said the Next Level used our dream time to help us with lessons.

 

You don’t know if Do and Ti and certain students did contact me through dreams or not!

I didn’t know when Rkk left the last time. If I acted like I knew that it was a typo. I have no desire to be inaccurate in any regard though I admit making mistakes that I correct when they are pointed out.

You make many assumptions and say things as facts about what I think and do and they are not and yet never respond to my responses and then keep repeating the same accusations so after a while it appears that you believe what is actually untrue.

You seem to have an agenda as you told me in a facebook message to stop me while you hold yourself up high in self righteousness and your tiny, tiny evidence is my site descriptions that doesn’t say that much.

What difference does it make how many times I said this verses that. Who’s got the talley? How trite are your accusations as if you are the scorekeeper over me.

In terms of distributing Ti and Do’s information, who has the talley on that – you?

Why isnt’ my experience hearing what Ti and Do said valid distribution of their information?

Maybe putting flute on that one little snippet for my blog talk radio show was tacky or perhaps Do and Ti would have wished I didn’t do that but without an instruction or procedure you can site it’s like anything else. They didn’t say what not to do. You are creating you own opinion about that while claiming that I am giving my own opinion about things. The difference is that you are on the attack without evidence. Why is that?

If I dilute something then tell me what it is and I will examine it. If I distort something then tell me what it is. At least tell me that you even read what I say or read it to find the higher side. I’ve never thrown anything in your face so shouldn’t you take the higher side with me as you and Rkkody tried to do with others? What have I said or done that doesn’t deserve even that little bit of respect?

You state that “you largely do not know what you’re talking about much of the time” – okay fine, so give me some examples, otherwise you are stating something that is not necessarily true.

For me it has required degrees of bravery to do a lot of the media I’ve done. It took bravery to give public meetings and talk to the press while in Ti and Do’s classroom as well. Maybe for you it’s not brave but maybe it’s harder for me and you’ve conquered that sheepishness.

I don’t think that everything I do is for the Next Level.

Can you be specific as to your claim that I have made “extraordinary claims that you make in the name of Ti and Do.”

If I am on a self righteous self appointed mission that’s between me and Ti and Do. But for the record if you actually watched these video’s you would see that I often don’t think I have the ultimate “right” interpretation on some parts of scripture.

As far as self appointed, I was honestly seeking to serve Ti and Do again in 2001 many years before I had dreams and began writing the book that I just published where I saw those Revelation verses that seemed to indicate the plan of there being a “backside (history)” to the overall BOOK (Rev 5:1) and the Little Book descriptions in Rev chapter 10. But I never really thought that applied to any one person and certainly not specifically to me, except in how I did feel to write about all the Jesus prophecy.

Do and Ti never justified themselves with prophecy but certainly talked about prophecy points. Do held a meeting where he had us bring bibles to one time during the entire time I was with them and interpreted Rev 12:1 as the “woman” being TI (TI wasn’t at that meeting as it was before she exited her vehicle).

You act as if the Next Level is static and there is no one else who can be in their service yet that’s not what Do talked about as the Three Types of people who could be saved….AFTER they left physically.

So who is influencing you to be so against my showing anyone who ever counted Jesus as someone from the Kingdom of God, Next Level how all Jesus said and did was talking about what Ti and Do fulfiilled? Who wants to keep that truth from being spread far and wide (if the Next Level chooses for it to be through whoever)?

Why do you seem to be more concerned about my spreading that truth than that truth becoming available in a way it hasn’t been done before that I’m aware of?

Even after saying that I’m reminded that the Next Level doesn’t need me or anyone else to do their work because as Jesus said, they can raise up stones to praise God. But they also have shown that it’s part of the program that some can continue their overcoming by being of service in that way.

By the way, I have no “followers,” in the context you often seem to imply, as if I’m trying to or even capable of being someone’s leader.

I don’t expect anyone to believe anything about me or about Ti and Do or about anything. That’s not a concern of mine at all. To the contrary I do expect more attacks on anyone and everyone who give their allegiance to the Next Level versus the Luciferian run human kingdom of governments and religions and wealth accumulation, and false god worship (working for), etc.

What claims am I uncomfortable with?

I guess you have sought to hold me accountable, so that’s fine. Sometimes you have said things that I have taken to heart. I know I have influences and make mistakes and talk too much sometimes or write too much or do a poor job of writing and have given opinions that may not be from Ti and Do’s mind and one of those influences can have me display what to others might seem like arrogance, which I hate when I see myself giving into. But then again, if I know something I’m not going to act like I don’t so I don’t come across as arrogant, because there are many that can think I’m being arrogant because they don’t know what I know and I do know some things. I’ll give you an example. I know that Ti and Do are from the Next Level and that everything they taught and did was a perfect example of the greatest truth anyone could find and what I wish to become and mimic. If that sounds arrogant than so be it. In that case it’s not an influence.

Maybe you could be more accountable to many of the things you say against me. Not accountable to me but to make sure it’s related to instructions and lesson steps Ti and Do and Jesus gave us. As otherwise isn’t it “finding fault” without cause as Jesus warned us against doing and as Ti and Do put in the words to their song…

Help me have no human ways
No thoughts of self
No faults to see
Only the ways of Space
Now I know my heart is fast
In my Father’s path at last
Only the Ways of Space
Only the Ways of Space

For those that may read this and never heard that song it was sung to the Beethoven music called “Jesus meine Freund” (Jesus my friend). I don’t think we ever sang that aloud or as a group as it’s a type of prayer and as Jesus also taught it’s private to be done in our personal “closet”.

However, when someone does find fault with us, we can still benefit from it. Ti and Do called that “making a positive out of a negative” something they said many times that the Next Level were very good at doing.

I know I’m being “defensive” and in the context of the classroom such was inappropriate. If a check partner brought something up to us that was supposed to only be things to where we were breaking “procedures”, behaviors and ways, our response, besides trying to understand fully what they are saying or agreeing with them would be to say “thank you, I’ll examine that” rather than to give justifications of ourselves and/or to then strike back at them in some way. We were required to offer that help to our partners but we didn’t offer that help to anyone else in the class. If we saw someone else breaking procedure the instruction was to write a note to Ti and Do about it.

In this setting it would seem to be different, but perhaps I’m wrong about that. But if I didn’t “defend” against certain accusations or inaccurate statements, presumptions to know how I think and what my motivation is – judgements against me, though I know they don’t necessarily have any bearing on what Ti and Do think (though they may), to date I feel to respond. Maybe that’s a fault of mine sometimes but of course even that can be twisted, so some could find fault with my defense.

By the way I don’t feel “brave” to be doing what I’m doing now. But there was a time when I said things to someone, correcting them in things they would say that I thought I understood were’t from Ti and Do’s mind, that I could bring evidence to them about (though often left to interpretation I know) , that I had fear about what they might say back to me. I guess after years of doing this in a full time way, I don’t deal with that fear any longer. Sometimes I was also hurt by things said and wanted to lash back and did sometimes and/or said things I know were not from Ti and Do’s mind to say, having some misplaced anger, etc.

 

Underground Cities and the Futile Race to Prepare for Forcast Planetary Recycling of the Human Civilizational “Garden”

September 8, 2017

Underground Cities and the Futile Race to Prepare for Forcast Planetary Recycling of the Human Civilizational “Garden”

There has been a great deal of evidence, though mostly underground that the US govt and other governments have been building underground cities for at least the last 40 years, before so called “global warming” and “climate change” were made into buzz words and attached to coming about because of humans.

This was forecast to take place:

Rev 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
Rev 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

There is also ample evidence of global cooling and global warming well before the combustion engine was developed. There is the “little ice age”. Plus there have been major hurricanes all over the planet, often called typhoons dated well before the industrial revolution.

The reasons for the underground cities seems to be initially to hide what was happening in relationship to the Space Aliens that became evident on earth in the 1940’s and 1950’s via UFO Crashes (that were initially staged by returning members of the Physical Evolutionary Kingdom Level Above Human, but were followed by facsimili crashes to confuse humans who would confiscate and cover up that truth. The need for underground cities was compounded in the 1960’s out of fear of nuclear war with the Soviet Union but it escalated further with one of the first near miss asteroids back in the 1990’s.

I believe one of the reasons the DEMS (Gore, etc.) began to promote the human caused climate change, because some may have actually believed it, but along with the fact that to have an energy source that wasn’t so hard to generate and store, for their underground city development meant needing to direct money to alternative power development and to boost nuclear developments that continued after 3 mile island and Chernobyl (but not in the public sectors, though there are a number of new nuke projects underway for general power).

But nuke fuel development continued all along and is used to power the many space satellites and scopes because it’s light weight fuel cells can power the electronics relatively indefinitely. But even solar and wind energy system development, though cleaner aren’t safe from what’s happening all over the earth, especially at this time and to come. For instance for those who watch the sun activity (and it’s no coincidence that there are several space telescopes that watch the sun 24/7, and the video streams are available for anyone to watch.

Just like the building of underground shelters is an obvious sign that elites in particular know what’s coming though misunderstand from whom and why, watching the sun is another obvious sign. As a matter of fact watching the sun shows lots of evidence that the solar wind from coronal mass ejections are the most significant cause of global warming and climate changes as the gamma radiation bursts have escalated and especially at this time, which heats up the air and water all over the earth when those bursts (CME and Solar Flares) are earth facing.

There is evidence accumulated over the last 20 or so years that following these bursts goes right to the core of the earth and moves the magma (rock and/or molten carbon that is throughout the western US several hundred miles beneath the surface, that also can cause tetonic plates to move, thus earthquakes and volcanic eruption activity that in the last 15 years especially has escalated a great deal and can not be logically tied to human fossil fuel burning.

However, there are humans and it’s also part of the propaganda machine to say all of these “natural” events are being driven by humans using HARPP and chem-trail weather modification experiments and fracking, etc. but then can’t explain how these kinds of events have been happening all throughout recent recorded history, though are at an all time high (though can be argued that we now have better ways to measure seismic activity, etc.)

So at this time, since many can see how the religions have all become corrupted from their original founders teachings, they gravitate to putting their “faith” in what we’re told is “science” which in many respects has become a new form of “religion” (belief system) that is believed by many no matter what is said and anyone who questions what we are told becomes a dissident and is put down and shunned as unaware and not intelligent with all their name calling while most of the media tows the various party lines – most often filled with propaganda that if one investigates finds out their “science” is often pseudo science to keep funding and to not become as libel when things go wrong with the “science”, the same as occurs with the religions as things go wrong with their organizations.

Coverups are the norm and taking advantage of every mishap goes along with the coverups and propagandizing to redirect wealth to black budgeted programs galore. Examples are how the elites profited by Katrina and Sandy which I know will happen with Harvey and now with Irma, etc.

I follow a number of Christian YouTube science geeks and love what they are observing through the NASA and other earth geological and space science department sources but see their correlation with prophecies, though accurate on one level often not contextual with their own “scriptures” they have been brainwashed to pay attention to while ignoring many others that paint a different picture entirely, so much so that many Christians have unbeknown to them become their own dreaded antichrist.

The truth is that the earth was designed and is not in any danger of drying up or blowing up, but is equip to start a recycling when the designer living Beings choose to instigate those processes, which they do gradually in their time frame which is like 1 day to them like 1000 years to humans so we get breaks in between disasters where we can ponder what happened each time, and even forget about it and not link it with anything.

However, the time in between natural and man made calamities may become much shorter as a recycling is on the docket that’s no longer just hearsay. The earth was going to be recycled this time via “fire” and that fire includes the solar wind and the increase in humans showing what they are passionate about even including hate of others. And then there are the massive fires on the more physical level resulting from drought most focused in the western states that became the new “temple” geography. And that’s not all by far. The sun can send out a burst that fries most all our electronics, though no doubt the elites are preparing for that too but are no match for the Next Level’s sun developments.

One could also pay attention to the FRB’s (fast radio bursts) detected from space in 2015 and just now in 2017. Ever since the so called Roswell crashes there has been a major effort to build satellite dishes that just exist to receive radio signals from space, another so called coincidence and clue to reality. There was a spike detected in 2015 and just this past august of 2017 days after the great American eclipse another burst followed by Hurricane Harveys devastation of Houston and surrounding areas.

And then there is the Houston Connection to those who were named Ti and Do of the Heaven’s Gate “cult” but I’ll leave that to those who seek it out. But in short, there is a great deal of evidence that they were the return of the One called The Father (Jehovah) and the One who was in the flesh vehicle named “Jesus” as He foretasted.

We all can benefit from looking at the whole picture so that we can be prepared for what is to come and help others with that preparation as people will be dying left and right from heart failure seeing all that’s happening that is so fearful because they have not opened up to seek out more of what’s most true and real about everything.

Death of our and other’s human bodies is not pleasant to deal with but it’s not the end of our “life” unless we don’t while in a body gravitate to showing the Next Level Above Human our allegiance, instead of to humans and human governments and organizations and belief or non-belief systems. We can do that by projecting our asking for help with showing that allegiance to the highest Living Being we can imagine who exist beyond the stars. This assures our request won’t be intercepted by discarnates and/or the Luciferian fallen angel space alien souls.

Metamorphosis – FSB’s – Sun=Global Warming – Hurricanes prophecy

September 6, 2017

Metamorphosis – FSB’s – Sun=Global Warming – Hurricanes prophecy

There was a RadioLab (NPR show) that talked about what actually has been observed to happen inside a cocoon. (The Link to that RadioLab show is provided in the description of this YouTube video I made).

The gist of the show describes the science re: the way the caterpillar body completely disappears – turns into “goo” but apparently still carries certain programming it established while a caterpillar into it’s new butterfly body. This is so interesting compared to what Ti and Do taught about a human body being able to also go through a metamorphosis. They even talk about a “reverse metamorphosis” that DO once mentioned as what Adam experienced when he broke instructions and “fell” that enabled his Next Level grown (made) body to revert to mammal behaviors to reproduce like a mammal. DO said that reverse didn’t take very long to transpire. TI and DO also said Jesus completed his “changeover” (metamorphosis) in the event told as the “Transfiguration” when he and 3 of his students were visited by Two Beings who spoke to him about laying down his vehicles life at that time to complete the task he was sent to do. In other words, the task was to voluntarily die their human vehicle according to instructions from the Older Member provided directly and having completed that “overcoming” (christing, christening) process enabled the new body literally growing inside the old body to heal the old body that died. I believe Ti said that it’s a characteristic of a Next Level member to be able to heal their body in 3 1/2 days. I guess the new body grown from it’s “deposit” has that capacity, perhaps kin to the way certain creatures can regrow body parts they lose for whatever reason. The Next Level gives us all these examples that can serve as clues to broaden our understanding and thus gain “faith” that is actually defined as “evidence of things unseen” as DO had me read from scripture on one of the sessions I was a helper on in the “Beyond Human – The Last Call” video series.

Links:
-Metamorphosis science: http://www.radiolab.org/story/goo-and-you/
-FSB (Fast Radio Bursts recorded: https://www.yahoo.com/news/frbs-repeating-radio-signals-coming-180300017.html
-Solar X flares – Solar Wind heats air and water and gamma radiation to core of earth and stimulates earthquakes:

-Irma and Juan all part of Jesus forcast of “sea and waves roaring” during this 4th Seal Harvest (pulling up of Tares) time.
-Massive heat under yellowstone is not Magma (moulten rock) but is moulten carbon: https://youtu.be/6AJ5YKnzwHI
-Hurricane Prophecy Interpretation: Luke 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

Critique of Rolling Stone article “Heaven’s Gate 20 Years Later: 10 Things You Didn’t Know”

March 29, 2017

To follow is my critique of the Rolling Stone 20 year anniversary of Heaven’s Gate “suicides” starting with the link to the article and the text that I commented to as needed:
https://sawyerhg.wordpress.com/2017/03/29/critique-of-rolling-stone-article-heavens-gate-20-years-later-10-things-you-didnt-know

Rolling Stone article:
http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/heavens-gate-20-years-later-10-things-you-didnt-know-w473560

Heaven’s Gate 20 Years Later: 10 Things You Didn’t Know

From cult members’ eating habits to the sneakers the group wore during its infamous 1997 mass suicide
Heaven’s Gate 20 Years Later: 10 Things You Didn’t Know
By Michael Hafford
3/24/2017

Twenty years after their mass suicide made headlines across the world, Heaven’s Gate is still one of the most notorious cults of the 20th century – not to mention one of the most recognizable. In March 1997, America was shook by the strange story that included mass suicide, wild public-access-style videos, an obsession with U.F.O.s and, in true late-Nineties fashion, tracksuits and matching Nikes. They also had a new recruitment tool: the Internet.

*** Sawyer’s comment:

Evidence reveals the distortion in this statement about the Internet as a new “recruitment tool”. Even though they never “recruited” as has been seen but most, if not all religious and spiritual and secular organizations, there were only two short periods of time when they held public meetings to see if there were any who identified with their information.

1) From April of 1975 which ceased by June of 1976 and
2) January of 1994 (with two test meetings in November of 1993) and lasted until August of 1994.
3) In 1996 they put up their web site, Heavensgate.com and from it two people joined and one soon left.

If recruitment was ever their interest why limit it so and why choose to exit their vehicles after only one “recruit” from the Internet. It was only their interest for two short periods of time primarily and then towards the time of their exit in 1996.

However, since then the Internet has been the primary way for people to learn the truth about Ti and Do and the group since the media has largely not dealt with the truth as their primary interest. This is evidenced by the way Wikipedia pays no attention to what Do wrote unless it was published by someone else who was writing about the group and they were not pro telling the truth about what they said and did.

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Heaven’s Gate has the distinction of being the first well-known American cult of the Internet era, using the new technology to share their beliefs with a wider audience and also to make a living. They derived a large portion of their income from designing web pages. Formed in the Seventies, they had become reclusive by the start of the 1990s and started attempting to recruit members online using the organizational name “Higher Source” for the website.

*** Sawyer’s comment:
They had a number of members of the group who were working in high tech management positions for years that probably made a lot more money than that little business. For instance Nrrody had been the head Technical Writing department manager for Texas Instruments. Mllody had been a Senior level programmer analyst for large banks included Mtech and Hewlet Packard. Others like Stlody was a Certified Network Engineer. I worked with all three of these at one company in California. One of the individuals who worked at their web design company was named Glnody. He got his start when I formed a company with Srrody – a very sharp low level programmer and secured a contract for a consultant in Dallas that maintained Anheiser Busch’s Bakery subsidiary as subcontractors. I gave him and others like Chkody their first programming lessons. Alxody was also a certified Network Engineer.
***

Though the web would eventually become central in the organization, the group’s origins were much more grassroots. In the early 1970s, founders Marshall Applewhite and Bonnie Nettles – a Texas music teacher and nurse that he met during a stay in a psychiatric institution – renamed themselves Bo and Peep and took a six-month-long road trip across the United States. Around 1974, they assembled a group called “the crew.” For the next two decades, they lived all around Southern California. Thought Nettles died in 1985, Applewhite kept the group together, and when the Internet was introduced to consumers in the early 1990s, they began using the new technology to share their beliefs with a wider audience. The reclusive group also used it to make a living, deriving a large portion of their income from designing web pages.

*** Sawyer’s Comments:
They at first traveled together from 1/1/73 to early April of 1975 when they to their surprise had students so became called Bo and Peep. we as a group were never called “the crew”. We did refer to ourselves as a crew but not as a title. We lived all over the western U.S. but mostly in the southwest from Texas to California and Colorado and Wyoming mostly not all that much time relatively speaking in southern California. There was no Internet we were aware of in the “early 1990’s”. We did upload our Beyond Human tapes to Satellite through Hughs Broadcasting uplink service. Other that we used traditional media when we went public for the second time in the early 1990’s.

re: the big psychiatric hospital misinformation:

I pulled this comment from the Huffington Post article that claimed this psychiatric hospital meeting [2] and also said they “fell in love,” [3] so I included the sections that show how both were not based on any facts but now have become “alternative facts,” even unconsciously creating myth from reality.

Here’s what Do wrote in 88update that I witnessed he and Ti referring to several times:

“In the early 1970’s, two members of the Kingdom of Heaven (or what some might call two aliens from space) incarnated into two unsuspecting humans in Houston, a registered nurse and a college music professor who were in their forties. The nurse and the professor hadn’t previously known each other and had completely separate lives. The registered nurse was happily married with four children, worked in the nursery of a local hospital [2 – what kind of psychiatric hospital has a “nursery?”], and enjoyed a small astrology practice. The music professor, a divorcee who had lived with a male friend for some years, was contentedly involved in cultural and academic activities.

For about a year before they met, their lives seemed to encounter severe upheaval and personal confusion, later recognized as the human body’s response to the entry of the minds from what “the two” referred to as the “Next Level,” or the physical level above human. About nine months after they first met, they left Houston because their lives, which were crumbling around them, made it impossible to concentrate on what was actually happening to them.

Most of their friends and associates thought the two of them had lost their minds or were being duped into a relationship by the other. The only relationship they shared, certainly having no physical attraction toward each other, was the compulsion to discover what had brought them together and what might be their purpose. They had little in common other than strong personal relationships with their Heavenly Father.” [3 – fell in love”?]

So where did the “psychiatric hospital” idea come in and where was it that they “fell in love” and no mention of “extraterrestrials” though I would give that last point some liberty. Here is yet another view as said by DO live on the video series he started in 1992. By the way I am introduced as Sawyer in the video and my face is shown as with Jwn his two “helpers” in the video:

Beyond Human — The Last Call – Session 1
http://heavensgate.com/book/4-4.htm

10th paragraph:

In the early 70’s, for unknown reasons (and this is just my attempt to explain to you what occurred), for unknown reasons – things we could not understand – my life began to suddenly fall apart.  It had been a very stable life, an acceptable life, certainly one that was considered legitimate and had respect to it in the community, as did Ti’s life. And her life separately began to fall apart.  We did not know each other.  We’d never seen one another that we were aware of – had never met.  Then in the early 70’s, I think around ’72, we met just perchance while I was visiting a sick friend in a hospital where Ti was a nurse.[2 – met in hospital where Ti was a nurse that had a nursery] From that moment, my life changed – changed very significantly. I rebelled.  I didn’t want it to change, and yet I knew it had to change.  And the conflict that was in me was very great.

The same thing was happening with Ti.  She knew she had something to do with me.  I tried to reject that idea. Ti was confused for awhile and wondered, “Well, why do I recognize you, and you don’t recognize me”?  And even though I might have thought I didn’t recognize Ti, I knew that I couldn’t cut it off. And yet here we had separate lives, separate careers, families, involvements in the world, and all of a sudden, just because we met, something was causing us to have to become more involved in spite of our desire not to.  Not involved in a human way.  There was never a coming together in that we were bed partners or involved in a physical relationship. [3 – “fell in love?”] But there was something that compelled us to spend time together and listen to each other, and search together.”

I know reporters went to Houston to talk to people that knew them and no doubt one or more could have said they thought they were having an affair. I know that DO told us that they got a court order against Ti’s vehicles husband (as I don’t know if they had divorced yet by then) because he threatens DO. So it was fertile ground for conjecture but that doesn’t mean they are facts.

Why not believe what Do wrote in several documents at different times years apart and that I heard Ti talk about a decade or so earlier, to confirm as the most accurate account? They would still be considered evil cult leaders even then. What did they have to gain by making up that story. Especially in 1994, why would Do hide the truth from his dedicated 24+ students when they were going to go out on the road again after 17 years in seclusion to “recruit”, (that actually never was as other groups did so, which I provide evidence for)? We held meetings in Dallas, Houston, Addison and Austin that year and DO wasn’t traveling with any of the groups while they went out among the people to put up posters advertising the meetings and looking for free press coverage. I was even part of a multi group effort that did a big story for the Dallas Morning News then in which Ollody’s many paints were shown on television. We visited most every health food store and book store and campus to advertise our meetings. How unlikely would have it been to run into someone that knew of the story about Applewhite and Nettles from 1975. I don’t know if that happened. However in 1975 at Christmas time, having joined 3 months before then, I with my partner who Ti and Do had assigned me several months before then, were out on our own with no connection to a larger group or to Bo and Peep (the names they still used then), hitchhiked (because our car broke down) to Houston where Dandy actually knew some people who we stayed with for a night or two. While there, they had some people over and it just so happens one was a women who told us she knew Applewhite and that he had wandering hands, I think she said. I thought that was a sexual insinuation. I didn’t think she was making it up but nor did it dissuade me or have me question what I was doing. I had been a rogue hippy vagabond musician for years before then, exploring a number of spiritual forms, to which I could never really feel one with, that is until I met Ti and Do and knew I had to give up my instruments and girlfriend and the house I was building in a startup commune in Oregon to follow them. My point is, how did they know what any of us heard about them, even when groups did meetings in 1975-6 in Austin, Brownsville, El Paso, Houston, Nashville, Lubbock and San Marcos? They could have started to tell their stories of how they met, which I only recall in the early 1980’s while living in houses and could have said things that could give a student a hard time believing because of what they heard. Why would they have risked making up a story when they were already hated by people all over the country even without that story and how would their story make it better for them anyway?

Common sense says that their story as told by Do is the most dependable one but seems to be the one most all the media outlets I’ve seen and that’s been many dozens since 1975 avoid like the plague. I can offer an explanation for this but most will have a hard time with it, but it doesn’t matter, the facts stand on their own.

Here is where so many reporters get their “facts”:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven%27s_Gate_%28religious_group%29
According to Applewhite’s writings, the two met in the psychiatric hospital where she worked during his stay there.[5] The two quickly became close friends.[6] He later recalled that he felt like he had known her for a long time and concluded that they had met in a past life.[7] She told him their meeting had been foretold to her by extraterrestrials, persuading him that he had a divine assignment.[8][9]

(7) Lalich 2004, pp. 44, 48.
(8) Balch & Taylor 2002, p. 210.
(9) Lalich 2004, p. 43.

Do only wrote about this in 88 update and spoke about it in Beyond Human – The Last Call video tape session 1 so perhaps these references refer to one of these documents as the video tapes were transcribed so are available in print.

***

The cult’s philosophy took its roots from Applewhite’s Presbyterian upbringing – his father was a minister – and essentially grafted belief in extraterrestrials onto Christian theology. Applewhite told his acolytes that he was the second coming of Jesus Christ, that God was an alien, and that they were living in the end times. They read the Bible, especially, Revelation Chapter 11 in the New Testament, a section about two witnesses that would prophecy. At the end of their prophecy, they would have to battle demons, which Applewhite and Nettles called “the Luciferians.”

**** Sawyer’s comment:
There is no evidence in Ti and Do’s teachings of “Applewhite Presbyterian upbringing” unless you count belief that Jesus and his Father were was from the Kingdom of God. If anything they were contrary to most all the standard Christian belief variances. Their book found at Heavensgate.com and my book at http://www.TIandDOTheFatherandJesusHeavensGateUFOTwoWitnesses are good references for this.

Do never told us he was Jesus Christ. Here’s why. Jesus was the name of the physical body an Older member from the Next Level took to perform his task through. That same body was never scheduled to come back in an incarnate way. Ti and Do said this clearly in 1973, 1975 and thereafter. Lots more evidence available. They did say they were fulfilling what Christians called the Second Coming. Ti nor Do ever said God was an alien. Do did write that some humans might see members of the Next Level as aliens.

The Bible was never a source of lesson material for the classrooms Overcoming process. In the 1990’s it was referenced more because that was when Do felt we needed to be “who we are” (1987) which meant say we were the return of the same Souls who were in Jesus and his disciples, (which Jesus actually taught would be returning and completing their “spirit birth” by having a “water birth” where spirit was compared to the invisible but physical wind and “water” was compared to the human kingdom’s flesh basis. Ti and Do said this was not reincarnation the way it’s described by most eastern religions.

We never as a classroom from 1975 to 1994 ever sat down to read Revelations chapter 11 about the Two Witnesses. Do writes about when He and Ti recognized that was the prophecy they were fulfilling not liking the idea.

Here is what Do wrote about that in 88Update:

“Their real or more in-depth awakening occurred over several months
while camping on the Rogue River near Gold Beach, Oregon.  While there
they came to believe that they were the Two Witnesses mentioned in the
Book of Revelations.  This was extremely difficult for them to accept,
for they were both the type who were “turned off” by people who
thought they were reincarnations of Cleopatra, or some Egyptian king
or Biblical character.  To have to believe that they were assuming a
role that would have caused them to “run the other way” had they seen
someone else assume it, was more than hard to digest.

In spite of that difficulty, they felt that they really had no
choice but to tell the world what the real Kingdom of Heaven was – a
physical evolutionary level, instead of some mystical cloud-and-harp,
spiritual existence as Lucifer has popularly twisted the scripture
quoters to misinterpret.  The term “evolutionary” here does not refer
to the theories presented by Darwin, but to a level of life that can
be entered only after overcoming or rising above the ways of the human
world, and only with the assistance of a Member of the Heavenly
Kingdom.”

I never heard Ti use the term Luciferians but they did acknowledge Lucifer and his associates were working against all but that it was part of the design to have students get stronger to conquer their influence.

Ti and Do didn’t derive what they came to know from the Bible. It only added verification to what they both knew and received individually. It was an uncanny experience watching them work together. Some audio tapes are available.

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But then, in late March 1997, 39 members including Applewhite wearing black track suits and sneakers, ate apple sauce laced with barbiturates and washed it down with vodka. They then put bags over their heads, purple shrouds over their bodies, and laid down to leave their earthly vehicles behind. They weren’t killing themselves, they thought, but freeing their souls from their so they could ascend to a spacecraft flying in the wake of the Hale-Bopp comet – which at that point was passing by Earth – and were going to be taken to their new home in space. Instead, police found their bodies on March 26th, and the images of the white and black Nikes poking out from under a purple cloth would be burned into the eyes of a generation.

*** Sawyer’s comment:
They said it was “irrelevant” whether there was a spacecraft in the wake of the Hale Bopp Comet. They said the Comet served as their “marker” for the timing of their exit.

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Here, 10 things you might not know about the Heaven’s Gate cult and its infamous mass suicide

The cult borrowed a lot of imagery from science fiction
Applewhite and Nettles were huge fans of Star Wars and Close Encounters of the Third Kind, and they brought some sci-fi to the group – resulting in theories like that Mary had been taken aboard a spaceship and impregnated with Jesus. It also led to the members that would eventually kill themselves to wear patches that said “Heaven’s Gate Away Team,” which you can see in the group’s farewell video, a reference the specialized crew that went on missions to alien planets in Star Trek.

*** Sawyer’s comments:
They were not “fans” of Star Wars or Close encounters though they had us see them when they came out and had a little to say about each. They did think Mary was artificially inseminated by the Next Level on a craft to prepare the vehicle named Jesus for his task. I don’t know where that idea first came to them.

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The group also believed that God was an advanced alien traveling in the spaceship in the trail of the Hale-Bopp comet, and that he planned to soon “recycle” the Earth. The group committed suicide so that they could ascend to “The Evolutionary Level Above Human.”

*** Sawyer’s comment:
What humans called Suicide was simply the method to exit their vehicles. Ti and Do always said and even hoped they would leave with their bodies but were prepared for all options. This is part of why it seems they packed travel bags.

God was a term that any adult member of the Next Level would earn by graduating into the Next Level from the human kingdom. They spoke in terms of Older Members and Younger Members of the Next Level and always said it was a “many membered Kingdom” and they used/wore physical bodies they MADE so were not reproduced by mammalian reproduction they had outgrown.

They did say there was a “chief of chiefs” the oldest most experienced member of the Next Level who humans could not understand but if they graduated into the Next Level would begin to understand more about where He came from.

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They made headlines early on
In September 1975, the group visited the small town of Waldport, Oregon, to give a lecture about how U.F.O.s were soon going to make contact with the human race. According to an article in the New York Times, roughly 150 people packed into a motel hall to hear Applewhite’s lecture. At first the town thought it was a joke, but soon, 20 people – or about one in 30 residents of the town – packed up, told their loved ones goodbye, and drove off.

“A score of persons… have disappeared,” Walter Cronkite said on the CBS Evening News. “It’s a mystery whether they’ve been taken on a so-called trip to eternity — or simply been taken.”

They had gone to a meeting of about 400 people in Grand Junction, Colorado, who believed they would be visited by alien beings. The rendezvous never happened, but the congregation did escape with their lives. According to the Times, none of these Oregon residents were among those found in 1997.

*** Sawyer’s comment:
I joined from the Waldport meeting. Do said there were 34 new members from that meeting. Most were not from Waldport where I lived actually.

I  think something got very mixed up with talk of some congregation escaping with their lives. I met them in at the Colorado National Monument after tying up the loose ends of my life in Waldport and we soon left for a Boulder Campround and then up to Poudre River. I didn’t join for a ufo ride. Nor did most of those who became core believers in Ti and Do. They simply recognized Ti and Do somehow and knew this was what they wanted to do. The Student Exit tapes verify this.

Lvvody, Jnnody, Ollody came from the Waldport meeting and I think Ollody was going to school in Eugene.

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Members were devotees of the Master Cleanse.

Aside from abandoning your family and turning over all your money, cult members were asked to cleanse their bodies of the impure influence of things like fast food and impure sexual thoughts. That often involved things like the Master Cleanse, invented in the 1940s by Stanley Burroughs and republished in 1976 in his book The Master Cleanser. Cult member Rio DiAngelo, real name Richard Ford, told Newsweek that the group took it much farther than the diet’s other So-Cal acolytes – they drank nothing but the mix of lemonade, cayenne pepper and maple syrup for three entire months.

*** Sawyer’s comments:
Yes, we used the Master Cleanser several times but were not “devotees” to it.

Fast food was never one of the things Ti and Do ever said we needed to cleanse our bodies from though we seldom had fast food and knew of it’s poor nutritional value. We did eat at Taco Bell by Choice a time or two or if we had to eat fast food we would.

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Originally, the cult promised that members wouldn’t have to die to ascend to a higher plane.
According to the BBC, members were originally told that they would be able to exit their “containers” without resorting to suicide. They told L.A. Weekly in 1994 that they hoped to be beamed up into space, taking their bodies with them into the “Next Level,” as members called their version of the afterlife. In the mid-1980s, when Nettles died of cancer, Applewhite amended his teachings to say that they would be given a new body in the Next Level, so their bodies wouldn’t necessarily go with them. The group acknowledged that death might be necessary if they were to be picked up by the alien spacecraft, but appears to have held out hope that they could do so without dying.

*** Sawyer’s comment:

It’s true at first Ti and Do thought only they would lose their vehicles. They even maintained that possibility to 1997 the reason they carried travel bags incase Ti took them without their needing to die.

Do, (Applewhite, his vehicle) never “amended” He and Ti’s teachings. they always said upon graduation the graduates would be given a new Next Level vehicle. They were not aliens. That is the distortion the Luciferian space alien fallen angels are still trying to brainwash humans to think. Ti and Do were from the Next Level who created everything – all the planets and all the life forms and they allow the space aliens to be here to present their agenda to humans to test humans of to whom to give their allegiance to become like the space aliens (who are human equivalents and can’t even travel into space anymore anyway, the reason they are training humans to do it for them), or to the Next Level.
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The suicides took place over the course of three days.
Though the 39 dead members of the cult were found on Wednesday, March 26th, 1997, coroner’s reports showed that the suicides were far from simultaneous. The members killed themselves starting Sunday using a combination of Phenobarbital, alcohol and hydrocodone, probably consumed with apple sauce or pudding. The members then put plastic bags over their heads and suffocated to death, after which they were covered in shrouds. Applewhite was a late death, but not the last to die.

*** Sawyer’s comment:
There never was a report of their use of Hydrocodone.
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“Labeled ‘The Routine,’ the document outlined a process by which a group of 15 people would kill themselves, assisted by eight other people,” CNN wrote. “Then a second group of 15 would die, also assisted by eight people. Given that 39 victims were found, that would have left a final group of nine.”

Part of the Heaven’s Gate dogma was that everything had to be precisely the same
“Everything was designed to be… an exact duplicate,” surviving member Michael Conyers later said. “You were not to come up with, ‘Well I’m going to make the pancakes this big.’ There was a mixture, a size, how long you cooked it one side, how much the burner was on, how many a person got, how the syrup was poured on it. Everything.” Conyers said that even male members shaved their faces a specific way.

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Everything wasn’t designed to be an exact duplicate but we did thrive on crew mindedness and it put some to the test whether they could conform like it would be in the military. There were lots of procedures on how to do things. We had recipes that Ti and Do wanted to see consistant good results. I don’t recall a procedure on how to pour the syrup on pancakes though we had an amount but one could forego having any syrup or at times uses jelly or just butter. Michael (Rthody) remembers whatever he had the most problems with. For me it was just a routine I didn’t find a problem with enjoying following. What’s wrong with having the burner on a certain setting to heat the griddle to the best temperature to best cook pancakes? I guess he wouldn’t be a very good chef if he didn’t have standards. But of course it was designed to weed out those who really weren’t fitting in as then the smallest things might become the straw that broke the camel’s back. Someone might want to ask Michael why/how he left. Do stimulated the second visit of families and when Michael came back he wanted to leave to be with his human family and then off he went. Had Do wanted to keep everyone in the group why would he and Ti have us visit families. It served as an innocent test of our resolve. That one of the many reasons I know all who stayed to their exit of their vehicles did so because they genuinely knew this was what they wanted to do regardless of whether humans would understand or condone their choice. They were quite in dependant minds compared to humans.

As I recall, Michael asked Do about how he shaved – in which direction he moved the blade. Before that we had no “procedure”. I guess he didn’t like Do’s answer. Had he not asked it would have remained an option. Ti and Do didn’t try to lay out all the options anything could be done. To the contrary they left many details up to us to work out and when we had problems or reached an impasse between students then it became a lesson opportunity as to how we would work out our differences between partners. Often that resulted in a procedure so it was settled but there were always many areas of difference.

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This is a common tactic for cults – if a leader wants to convince members to do something as extreme as commit suicide, they has to replace their entire belief structure with the belief structure of the cult, a process called indoctrination.

“[Cults] say, ‘You have to break out of your Western mentality,” David Sullivan, a private investigator specializing in cult deprogramming, told Harper’s. “You’re too judgmental. You have to abandon your whole psychological-intellectual framework. Your obsessive materialism is blocking you from seeing the truth.'”

*** Sawyer’s comment:
So how many cults do we have that example for? How did Jim Jones get so many to commit suicide? Wasn’t it fear of having authorities destroy their way of life and it was made into a drill they repeated and didn’t know it wasn’t real poison they drank so that when they finally drank it, many under gunpoint and being threatened on the PA system they did it.

We talked about all ways to exit our vehicles. It wasn’t until 1994 that doing so by our own hand seemed like the way we might go and no one’s entire belief system as replaced, especially for those that joined in 1994 that hardly had a grasp on the groups beliefs.

This is the way governments get their citizens to go to war to kill others and think if they die it’s honorable. A typical cult technique except that’s the cult of Luciferian misinformation.

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The Next Level was a place without gender, and that led to castration
Applewhite and other members underwent the procedure to help ensure they remained celibate. Applewhite, who had been fired as a music professor at the University of St. Thomas in 1970 after administrators learned he had sex with a male student, sought cures for his homosexual urges. He wanted to find a way to have “platonic relationship where he could develop his full potential without sexual entanglements,” said one reporter who infiltrated the group in 1975. Castration, Applewhite believed, could make that easier. Ultimately, the group instituted a strict “no sex, no human-level relationships, no socializing” rule.

Though decisions like this were always left up to the members, eight followers were castrated voluntarily, including Applewhite. “They couldn’t stop smiling and giggling,” former member DiAngelo told Newsweek. “They were excited about it.”

***Sawyer’s comment:

It is true that in the Next Level abodes, on spacecraft laboratories, members don’t have a gender and the physical bodies they wear don’t have a gender. They are from The Evolutionary Level Above Human and to become a Member meant they had to conquer/overcome all their human kingdom characteristics like gender, sexuality, accumulation of wealth, elevation of self (ego), addictions and mammalian relationships. But castration became an option that most did not choose to undergo as for some they didn’t have a significant challenge by that part of their vehicles hormonal system that stimulated a significant toward maintaining celibacy.

The castration procedure was not to “ensure celibacy” and that especially applies to the long term members including DO who had many years of successful overcoming of his vehicles sexual nature. Instead it was like a reward for their efforts to be rid of that battle that despite one’s self control over their vehicles urges, etc. the battle still raged even in ways hardly recognizable as related. For instance when one doesn’t control that addiction to the loss of energy/fluids and the various attention to thoughts and feelings, one’s capacity for “common sense” diminishes, according to Ti and Do. Also one is not as objective working with others if their vehicle is attracted or repulsed to another’s vehicle. Thurston, seen in the exit videos as TRSODY makes note of this and the relief he felt after the procedure. Someone who never experiences any significant celibacy of mind and body isn’t capable of understanding it from an experiential standpoint any more than certain alcoholics who may not even think of themselves as alcoholics don’t know how their judgement has been impaired.

There is a great deal to say about this and how the option came to be as I was a part of the first choices to be castrated and Do stopped me from proceeding on two occasions. For over a year DO wondered if allowing those students that were asking for the procedure (Srrody, Prkody and I mostly, DO told us), if he approved of it, by having it done, would reduce the effort needed to build our Mind muscle by working against those vehicular characteristics. Do also thought that the Next Level had designed human male vehicles to be easily castrated (neutered) compared to females who he didn’t give the option to because it was too invasive. (I never learned of that procedure).

It was always interesting to note how Jesus approved of castration for his disciples? In context here is what he said:

Matthew 19:12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother’s womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

It was also known that the Essene Jewish community that Jewish heirarchals disproved of also showed in the Dead Sea Scrolls that we read in the book Essene Christian Faith, their promotion of self stimulated castration.

There have been several versions of the story that Applewhite was fired for a relationship with a college student. It may be true but he was teaching in the University of St. Thomas so the student would not have been underage and when talking to the administrators one reporter only learned that he was fired for “personal reasons”. There is also only rumors that he sought professional help with his homosexuality and even if they were true I don’t know what is so terrible about that. About his relationships with a man, Do did tell the student body and wrote in the 88update that he had been living with a man and that he was not happy with his relationship because he sought someone who wanted a committed relationship. Robert Balch, who was not a reporter, but who did write about the group a lot was the one who did infiltrate the group in 1975 and made these few things into his treatise of why he eventually led the group to what humans call suicide so as is the case with this story in particular the same media reports end up being used over and over to build the same rumors and innuendo and hypothesis into facts – the way myth get’s started it seems.

The group didn’t ultimately institute, a strict “no sex, no human-level relationships, no socializing” rule. We had those rules from day one and all the rules came from TI and DO until TI exited her vehicle in 1985 and then came from DO alone.

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Heaven’s Gate cult
Police photo showing a deceased member of the Heaven’s Gate cult. Nike discontinued the sneakers the members wore. STR New/Reuters

The cult went out for a last supper together.
Though Heaven’s Gate members were cut off from their families and friends, they were far from total recluses. Their final meal together was a big group dinner that took place at a chain that they frequented near their compound in Rancho Santa Fe, CA.

“And a week ago Friday [just before their suicides] — just a day or so before enacting their meticulously planned suicides — the cult went out for a last supper together at the Marie Callender’s restaurant in Carlsbad,” the BBC wrote.

“They all ordered the exact same thing,” a waiter recalled to the paper. “It was set up before they came in. They all had iced teas to drink. Dinner salads beforehand with tomato vinegar dressing. Turkey potpie for the entree. Cheesecake with blueberries on top for dessert. They seemed very nice, very friendly, very polite. No one seemed depressed at all, or anything like that.”

Two surviving members likely still operate the cult’s website.
One of the ways that Heaven’s Gate paid the bills was with a web design group called “Higher Source.” Their website is still online.

“Clients described Higher Source employees as diligent and professional,” the AP wrote. “They said the Web-site designers didn’t look particularly unusual for computer experts with a lot of work in the entertainment industry, with dark, collarless shirts and closely cropped hair.”

The pair most likely behind the Higher Source website are Mark and Sarah King according to Motherboard.

“The information must be available to mankind, in preparation for their return,” the page’s admins told Reddit’s blog. “We don’t know when that will be but those who are interested will find the information.”

*** Sawyer’s comment:
Mark and Sarah were instructed to leave the group in 1987 because they didn’t want to abide by the lesson step called, “I could be wrong” and they never returned so had nothing to do with the Higher Source Web Design Business. Do and Crew did stay in touch with them and in 1994 offered them to return to the class again but they denied but then Do offered them logistical types of tasks as they prepared to exit their vehicles though did not let on to Mark and Sarah what their plans were or that it was a serious consideration. I was still in the class and knew of the plans. Rio (Neody) had been a big part of the Higher Source Web design business. Jwnody as she said in her student exit video had been a big part of Higher Source as was Glnody.

I wrote a critique of the Motherboard article found here:
https://sawyerhg.wordpress.com/2017/01/05/sawyers-response-to-motherboard-vice-com-interview-with-heavens-gate-website-webmasters/
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The Nikes the group wore have become a collector’s item.
When the Heaven’s Gate members were discovered, they were all wearing identical black-and-white Nike Decade sneakers – and the company soon discontinued the style, due to its macabre associations. Since then, the shoes have become a collector’s item. An unworn pair apparently discovered in a storage unit in Arizona is up for auction on eBay for the asking price of $6,660, bearing Applewhite’s face as part of its advertising.

Nike didn’t exactly appreciate the free advertising.

“We’ve heard all the jokes,” Nike rep Jim Small told Adweek in 1997. “The Heaven’s Gate incident was a tragedy. It had nothing to do with Nike.”

The surviving members agree. They say that the shoes were purchased in bulk because of their cost, not necessarily their style.

“They turned out to be a look that Do and the Class [adopted names for the cult leader and a member] liked,” they told Sole Collector in an email. “They were also able to get a good deal on them. It was a combination of factors that made the sale happen, not because of a particular model or brand.”

*** Sawyer’s comment:

“Class” wasn’t “a member”. It was short for “Classroom” the equivalent of student body or “church” in Ti and Do’s new generic non-religious terms that were more accurate now.

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Sawyer’s Critique of Ben Zeller’s article entitled: What the Heaven’s Gate suicides say about American culture

March 25, 2017

Below is Sawyer’s critique of another article about Heaven’s Gate. The article link is at the end but here is the text with my comments embedded:

What the Heaven’s Gate suicides say about American culture

Ben Zeller, Lake Forest College Published 4:53 am, Friday, March 24, 2017

Ben Zeller, Lake Forest College

(THE CONVERSATION) Heaven’s Gate – also known as the “UFO cult” – burst into American consciousness 20 years ago this month, when, on March 26, 1997, law enforcement discovered 39 decomposing bodies in a San Diego, California mansion.

Each detail that emerged from the scene stunned a rapt public: Adherents had committed suicide in waves on March 22 and 23, ingesting a lethal mix of barbiturates and alcohol; they lay under purple shrouds, with five-dollar bills and rolls of quarters in their pockets; all wore simple dark uniforms and Nike tennis shoes.

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sawyer’s comment:

“rolls of quarters” – that’s the first time I ever heard that. It was generally $5 and quarters that was first reported though I don’t know if every member had that combo. I reported to media in 1997 that I thought it had to do with our routine to sign out $5 whenever we went out of craft (house) on a task and then signed it in when we got back. It was for minor emergencies or if we were doing an “out of craft task” (job in human world) that extended past our 3rd Experiment (dinner time) as some were computer technicians that had varied hours at times so they’d have a little something to get a sandwich or something to tide them over. Before it was $5 in the 1990’s it was quarters for use in a pay phone in the 1980’s. I am sure it wasn’t more than 4 quarters or less than 2. Then some years after 1997 I heard a report that said it was $5.75 and I related it to Mark Twain’s fare for boarding the tail of a comet to go to heaven – like a dual service joke and practicality of having a tiny amount of money in case Ti decided to take their vehicles with them, heal them of their drug induced vehicular death and use them for some task someplace else. I believed this was also the reason for each to have a travel bag packed with a change of clothes as they left no stone un-turned. Could some have had rolls of quarters? Of course. But I wonder what was in the final report. It’s not important anymore but it just adds to the confusion of the facts to see it constantly reported differently.
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Bizarre as these details may seem, if you actually look at the group’s beliefs and history, Heaven’s Gate has far more in common with American culture than you might expect.

In my book on Heaven’s Gate, I argue that the group drew from broad trends in American culture – religiosity, apocalyptic thinking and an interest in fusing science and religion.

But one theme has become even more evident since I wrote the book. The group’s embrace of conspiratorial thinking reflects a culture of conspiracy that has long existed in the margins of society – and has re-emerged at the center of American life.

At the time of the suicides, Heaven’s Gate had been in existence for over two decades.

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Sawyers comment:

The Name Heaven’s Gate wasn’t used until 1996. We used  many other names before that.

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It was founded in 1972 when two Texans, Bonnie Lu Nettles and Marshall Herff Applewhite, bonded over shared interests in alternative spiritual exploration, astrology and biblical prophecy. They came to believe that the Bible foretold an extraterrestrial rapture wherein some individuals would be saved from life on this planet and journey to what they called the “Next Level,” a physical realm in outer space where they would live as an immortal, perfected species of space aliens. They gained their first significant attention and converts in 1975 among alternative spiritual seekers in California and Oregon.

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sawyers comment:

In 88update Do says that when He and Ti met they had nothing in common but a strong love for their Heavenly Father and a sense of having something to do together so they didn’t bond over shared interests.

They never spoke in terms of a “rapture” until the 1990’s that I recall as we had no bible kinds of study before then and with TI. Then Rapture meant – leaving all behind to follow eith the Older members literally as Jesus disciples did.

“saved from life on this planet” is to me a skewed way of saying what was more the case of “graduated from the Human kingdom” – and “evolutionary step” that amounted to being saved from “death on the planet” the fate of all life forms on earth, which is also aligned with what Jesus taught.

The latest trend in these articles and book authors is to classify them as “space aliens” which is part of the Luciferian Space Alien fallen Angel misinformation, rather than distinguish them as Above Space Aliens, Beyond Human and space Aliens, Evolutionarily more advanced than space aliens as “human equivalents” and DO said that the space aliens were SOULS who propagated hybrid physical bodies and were no longer allowed to circulate very far into space now and that there were no good and bad space aliens. They were all enemies of the Next Level though some had more consciousness of the Next Level Above Human than others and were also in competition with one another over the “spoils of the planet”. See USA Today Info Ad published on May 27th 1993.
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Nettles and Applewhite drew from Christian sources, particularly prophetic and apocalyptic material. They were also inspired by the New Age movement, which emphasized meditation, diet and the channeling of spiritual beings. Like many religious people, members of Heaven’s Gate sought salvation from what they considered a corrupt world.

***** sawyers comment:
To say they were inspired by the New Age movement is misleading. The author should just read 88update for Do’s words on the subject if accuracy is most important anymore.
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After Nettles died of cancer in 1985, the group’s adherents increasingly rejected their earlier belief in what they called biological metamorphosis, wherein their human bodies would chemically transform into extraterrestrial forms. Instead, they now envisioned abandoning their human bodies on Earth and transferring their consciousnesses – through (unspecified) technological-spiritual means – into new extraterrestrial “Next Level bodies.” (This is roughly analogous to reincarnation.)

**** sawyers comment:

“group’s adherents” who left, did so for any number of reasons and I learned what their reasons were because some of them sought to return and explained why. For example Dymody, Wndody, Rkkody, Trsody, Flxody and some never returned who gave interviews – Shldody, Jssody – who I believe left because the pickup didn’t transpire when Ti and Do first indicated it would (after 5 years they regretted saying as they never knew but kept getting pressed for the answer, though that didn’t phase their core believers like myself who never cared about being picked up by a UFO to begin with.

But to say they rejected “biological metamorphosis” I doubt was on anyone’s mind as we hardly understood what that entailed anyway until the mid 1990’s and even then it wasn’t until years later after I left them that I realized what they were referring to. The Soul was a “seed” and was physical and had a biological interface inside the human container where it could grow. Upon completion it would be equivalent to when Jesus was transformed on the Transfiguration mount, when Do felt he was ready to lay that body down to heal it in 3 1/2 days as Ti agreed was a time frame for such healing to occur.
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Eventually, some members came to believe that they actually were space aliens – that they’d taken on human forms to learn about life on our planet – though this belief appears to have not been universally shared.

**** Sawyers comment:
Who said this? It wasn’t members who stayed in the classroom to their departure I can assure you but the idea probably did come from space aliens into some minds.
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It may come as a surprise that, until the suicides, Heaven’s Gate attracted little outside attention.

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Sawyers comment:

Nor did they want outside attention which is why when Ti stopped the harvest (first wave) in 1976 they went into seclusion for about 17 years as they didn’t want any further attention. When they wanted attention they got it big time – still talking about it 20 years later with new believers to degrees all the time.
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They didn’t face government persecution, angry ex-members or professional anti-cultists eager to destroy them – all of which dogged other new and alternative religions like the Peoples Temple (the group behind the Jonestown massacre) and the Branch Davidians (the targets of the Waco siege).

So what drove Heaven’s Gate to consider collective suicide?

In the final years of the group’s existence, members came to believe in an elaborate conspiracy that leading governmental, religious and economic figures had colluded with a group of demonic extraterrestrials called “the Luciferians.” According to Heaven’s Gate members, these evil forces were all working in concert to cover up the existence of UFOs, and specifically a UFO “companion” that trailed the Hale-Bopp comet, which came closest to Earth on March 22, the day the suicides began.

*** Sawyer’s comment:

We began our study of the UFO phenomena in earnest in 1987 while living on Lost Angel road up Boulder Canyon in Colorado when Do brought in copies of “UFO Crash at Aztec” and in particular made parts of the appendix and the autopsy reports required reading and the rest optional. Before then we had a few books about Roswell and Admiral Byrd’s hollow earth, if I recall correctly, but never had them as required reading and never had a discussions about them which can be seen in the audio tape records.

ALL space aliens were “demonic” – not the way they want to be labeled for public consumption of their agenda of being human saviors.
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The sort of conspiratorial thinking that Heaven’s Gate adopted was nothing new. Their belief in government conspiracies and UFOs could be traced back to popular responses to the first “flying saucer” sightings and the crash of an unknown object in Roswell, New Mexico, in 1947.

Religious studies scholar Joseph Laycock has written about how some aspects of the emerging UFO subculture blended scientific and supernaturalist theories, bringing together religion and conspiratorial thinking. Likewise, historian David G. Robertson has documented how UFO conspiracy theories eventually merged with New Age religious thinking to create what he calls “UFO millennial conspiracism.” Heaven’s Gate was part of those trends.

While Heaven’s Gate emerged from ufological culture, they also engaged in a long and storied pattern of conspiratorial thinking by American religious and political movements, a relationship historian Richard J. Hofstadter explored in his famous 1964 essay on the “paranoid style of American politics.”

In the 19th century, this relationship was especially pronounced in a strand of American Protestantism that envisioned an array of nefarious agents attempting to wrest American culture from the values – and control – of white, English Protestants. They initially targeted (sometimes violently) Catholic immigrants – who were neither Protestant nor English – and justified their actions with a blend of nativism and conspiratorial thinking.

And it was this sort of conspiratorial thinking that suffused American political movements, whether it was McCarthyism or the anti-Masonic movement. Hofstadter wrote that proponents of such ideas often felt “dispossessed,” that the country had been “taken away from their kind.”

Today, many fear that external agents, from Muslims to illegal immigrants, have eroded core American “Judeo-Christian” values. Perhaps as a result, we’re now witnessing rising nativism, anti-Semitism and Islamophobia.

Heaven’s Gate also embraced what historian Michael Barkun calls a “culture of conspiracy,” which divides the world between evil forces secretly conspiring among one another, true believers aware of the conspiracies and the mindless masses who operate without awareness of the truth.

**** Sawyer’s comment:

Ti and Do said the Next Level had a “conspiracy” – a “need to know” policy and one of maintaining “secrecy”. This can be seen in the way the Prophet Daniel was told to “shut up the meaning of the vision” and to how John the Revelation writer was told the same thing in chapter 10, UNTIL the time of the end in Daniel’s case and in John’s until the 7th Trumpet soundings. That seventh trumpet sounding as been in progress since at least 2008 when National Geographic Magazine’s “Final Report: Heaven’s Gate” aired a documentary that posed the question in the byline and in the body of the document, via the words of Sawyer (as I had asked them to do, a miracle to have happen (because I think the Next Level wanted it to occur), “Could Heaven’s Gate have been the Second Coming?” (paraphrased) that millions would have heard – the function of a trumpet sounding of information that was to occur after the TWO and Crew had exited their incarnations.
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While Barkun focuses on the religious and cultural margins, today the same elements are arguably at work in American political discourse, whether it’s talk of secret government wiretaps, a deep state, or cover-ups within the scientific community on topics ranging from vaccines to climate change.

The adherents of Heaven’s Gate wouldn’t probably be drawn to these various political conspiracies, though they shared the belief that powerful forces colluded behind the scenes to hide the truth. In order to support their claims of the existence of extraterrestrials and UFO visitations, they embraced this conspiratorial logic.

Twenty years ago, people laughed off the conspiracy theories that consumed the group and eventual led them to “opt out” of the planet and commit suicide.

**** Sawyers comment

The conspiracies theories that abounded in the 1990’s stemming from the previous decades amounted to maybe 1% of content of the groups consideration so hardly could be said to have “consumed the group” and certainly had nothing to do with their “opt out” “suicides”. Watch the students exit videos to see what over 30 students said about their exit. Why isn’t that proof of their mindset. They were leaving because they had bonded with their Older Member, and had grown to know they were not those bodies and because most of all they loved Do wanted to follow him, be with him after their exit to take up their next tasks to have graduated their human lesson plan. Yes they saw the world as the hideous place it really is, where even most Christians are, know it or not, anti-Jesus teachings while in condemnation of what they don’t want to understand as misinformation is the rule rather than the exception.
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But what happens when political leaders embrace a similar logic?

Link to this article: http://www.lmtonline.com/news/article/What-the-Heaven-s-Gate-suicides-say-about-11024924.php

This article was originally published on The Conversation. Read the original article here: http://theconversation.com/what-the-heavens-gate-suicides-say-about-american-culture-74343.

TI and DO The Father and “Jesus” Heaven’s Gate UFO Two Witnesses – Cover, Overview, TOC and Section I.

January 26, 2017

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 This “Little Book” Provides the “Backside” Evidence Showing How All Jesus’ Prophecy Revelations are Fulfilled By Those Who were Known as:

TI & DO
The Father and “Jesus” Heaven’s Gate
UFO Two Witnesses

Who Returned Incarnate With Their “Saints”
From 1972 to 1997
Prophesied in the Book of Revelations

Termed by Christians as
“The Second Coming”

From
The Physical “Evolutionary” Level Above Human
The Kingdom of God in Heaven

Whose Membership: “Wear” Physical Vehicles (Bodies),
Grown on a Vine
(That Human bodies are Designed to Resemble)

To Work Within Planet Sized Spacecrafts
Like Pluto and Ceres
That Serve as Laboratories for Their Earth
Soul-Growing “Garden” Experiments

That Incorporate the Negative Influence of
The Luciferian “Space” Aliens, aka “The Fallen Angels” So
Prospective New Members, Directed By Incarnate Older Members
May Overcome the Human “Evolutionary” Kingdom

To Graduate Into the
Next Level Kingdom In the Literal Heavens

SAWYER


© 2017 Sawyer. All rights reserved.

This book is protected by Common Law copyright. Permission is
hereby granted to reproduce this book, or portions thereof, as
long as the content is unchanged, i.e., nothing added to it or
taken away from it as long as it is for non-commercial purposes.

Scripture taken from the King James Version of the Bible.

Translations of Scripture taken from the Strongs Hebrew and Greek Dictionary


This “Little Book” provides detailed evidence from everything Jesus prophesied to show how and why those called, Ti (Tee) and Do (Doe) were the new incarnations of the Ones referred to as the Father and Jesus, who with Their Crew of Student “Saints,” were on earth again to fulfill the promised return of Their Kingdom during these “End Times,” through Their task recorded as the “Two Witnesses” in the Book of Revelations that was completed when they exited their incarnations in 1997 – seen in the world’s news as Heaven’s Gate.

Here is a tiny bit of the evidence of Their return that will be covered in these next pages in great detail, examining most every verse from the Book of Revelations, in context with both the Old and New Testaments and in consideration of the many translation options from the Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek and most importantly in how TI and DO’s teachings, behaviors, ways and lifestyle coincided, without Their trying to do so, as I, Sawyer witnessed as Their student for 19 years.

-Father and Son both reside, (dwell with, abode) with Their Students. (Joh 14:22-23)
-They both have new names and the One who was “Jesus” identifies His Father. (Rev 3:12, Rev 14:1)
-They come incarnate in the task of the Two Witnesses to speak publicly (prophesy) New Revealing about the reality of Their Kingdom, how and when it can be entered, that serves to gather Their returned “Saints,” the Souls who were their students with Jesus and Moses. (Luk 17:30, Mat 24:31).
-The Father incarnates into a female human body and “Mind/Spirit births” His Son to the Throne. (Rev 12)
-They are both Olive Trees, Lampstands, and are Anointed so are both Christs. (Rev 11:3-4, Zec 4:1-14)
-They speak plainly, (open, bold, confident), not in parables (Luk 12:2) and Students can ask the Father questions directly. (Joh 16:25-27)
-Their prophecy is focused in the West and Southwest U.S.A., described as the spiritual (symbolic) Sodom (scorched, desert) e.g. Las Vegas, Egypt (“two straights” (Streets, Ways (FIRST & LAST)) and New Jerusalem; California (Los Angeles) to Texas, (Rev 3:12), to a “new nation (people)” (Mat 21:42-43), leaving Jerusalem in Palestine/Israel “desolate” (empty of Their Updated Mind/Spirit – Presence). (Rev 11:8, Mat 23:37-39)
-In 1975 They are subdued (overcome) by the U.S. national media, mouthpiece of the “Beast” – the Secret Govt (Mystery Babylon) formed because of the release of the Luciferian Space Aliens from their “bottomless pit” prison in the 1940’s to 1950’s during the 5th Angels Trumpet Sounding. (Rev 9, 11:7, 12:4, 17)
-The Father’s incarnation Exit was seemingly “natural”-“Earth Opened Her Mouth.” in 1985. Do and Students Exited by laying (falling) down Their human bodies in 1997, shown by the comprehensive translation of the Greek “apokteino auto” as “to separate by dying Their selves.” (Rev 11:7,16, Rev 12:16)
-Their ascension, Jesus called a “spirit birth,” compared to wind, not seen as physical bodies going up. The “cloud” (of light) was the Hale-Bopp Comet with it’s photographed “companion object.” (Rev 11:12, Joh 3:5-8)
-Do Comes Public as the return of “Jesus” in 1993, shown as sitting on a “white horse,” the human body He took named Marshall Applewhite, which He purifies to Recover Virginity. “Bow” represents the Covenant (rainbow) with the “litter/fold” He “births” by directing each Students own Overcoming of Humanness. (Rev 6:2)
-The Red/Ruddy “Horse” – G.W. Bush, et al, used the 9/11 WTC attacks – the “great earth(shaking)” (1st Fall of “Babylon”) to wield a great sword (military) for a perpetual “war on terror.” (Rev 6:3-4, 11:13, 14:8)
-Barack Obama, et al, was the Black/Deep Blue (jacinth) “Horse” presiding over the stabilizing of the Global Financial Crisis (2nd Fall of “Babylon”) manufactured to usher in the U.S. BEAST’s riding the yolk of the New World Order (U.N.) (Rev 6:5-6, Rev 13, 14:8, 18:2)
-Sign of Opening of Temple of God in Heaven revealed by NASA Dawn spacecraft photos of dwarf planet Ceres’ cityscape of lights with 5+ mile high crystal-like Tower as evidence of 2017 4th Seal Opening: Green (Space Alien tare (weed) harvest, NWO front promotion of human caused global warming) Horse (US President) agenda, accelerating death in Tribulation/Judgment Hour = LAST Harvest Wave (Rev 6:8, 11:19, 14:20, 15:5)
-Luciferian (restricted Space) Aliens are depicted as fowls, birds of prey, locusts(Mat 13:4;Rev 9:3,18:2, 19:17)
-Afterward, Do returns with His “Armada” of brightly shining (glorious) Clouds of Light – “horses” (spacecrafts) for every eye to see, with His FIRST Fruit Graduate (Saints) all “wearing” Their new Kingdom of God “made” (grown to an adult on a vine, not born of woman) physical, biological bodies, with His being “like the Son of Man,” Jesus’ “dipped in blood body (vesture).”(Rev 1:7,11:19,14:14,16:15,19:11-14, 1Co 15:39+)


Overview

Evidence of these claims come from everything Jesus said in the four “gospel” records and throughout the Book of Revelations, cross referenced to the Moses and Old Testament (OT) Prophet’s records, to reveal how and why TI and DO fulfilled the task described as the “Two Witnesses,” Two Christs, the same Ones described as The Father in Heaven and His Son, (the One who came incarnate in the body named Jesus), returning this time, together, incarnate (in the flesh) as partners for the FIRST of a two WAVE “Harvest” conclusion of the experimental task They both began as recorded in the Book of Genesis as the Elohim and Adam and Enoch and then in the other OT records as Jehovah and Moses and Elijah.

It will be shown how and why these Two Witnesses were prophesied by Jesus to have New Names for Their New, “in-the-flesh” Return, (that has been called Jesus’ “Second Coming”), to occur during the New Age, aka End Time, in a New geographical area (not to the Middle East/Israel), as a New Nation, (ethnic populous), described as the New Jerusalem (also having a New Name).

The New geographic area will be shown to be primarily in the Western U.S. from the Mississippi river to the Pacific, as the “Temple” area, where the FIRST Harvest WAVE is staged. The Southwest became the “Altar” area. Elder Students (Saints) gave their physical vehicle’s lives, they’d received from giving their human lives in service to Jesus, by intentionally crashing primitive spacecrafts, called “UFOs” to release their Souls to incarnate into prepared human vehicles to rendezvous with their teachers to finish their Overcoming of humanness lessons.

It will be shown that; what these two individuals named TI and DO taught, was exactly what Jesus, and before then Moses were teaching and demonstrating, (appropriate to Their student body’s grade in Their school), but as with Jesus, brought updates and used new plain and direct generic, (non-religious) terminology, rather than speaking to most people in parables with hidden meanings. This was necessary due to the way the Lower Forces of the planet, headed by the Luciferian Space Alien Souls (fallen Angels) were permitted by the Kingdom in the Heavens to distort and dilute the truth Jesus (and before then, Moses) bore, by sowing seeds of misinformation that became organized into Religions and to date New Age Spirituality. These distortions were allowed to provide all humans 100% choice of what they want to become and in who they choose to serve, as Jesus said was between, “God (The Kingdom of God’s Older Members (Deities)) and Mammon (treasure, wealth in all the Human forms). One of many misconceptions is that the Kingdom of God is a Spiritual realm. It is but is also physical and biological, just like throughout Their creation.

Some of the generic terminology TI and DO used, described the Kingdom of God or Kingdom of Heaven as The Physical Evolutionary Kingdom Level Above Human, whose membership are not limited to any one planet. Membership have true freedom to circulate throughout the literal “heavens” (near or outer space) to perform their tasks. (Like Star Trek without human mammalian behaviors they have outgrown). The use of the term “Evolution” has nothing to do with Darwin’s theories, but instead describes the way there exists four kingdom levels of life on earth; mineral, plant, animal and human. The human kingdom was designed to be a stepping stone (footstool) to deposit Souls (that are like seeds) within and then to nurture them to grow towards taking their Next Evolutionary Step into what They termed in shorthand as the Next Level.

TI and DO indicated that Next Level members dwell within Spacecrafts, (even Planet Sized like Pluto, (and perhaps Saturn and/or Earth’s Moon and/or dwarf planet Ceres and others), that serve as Laboratories for Their “Soul” growing Earth “Garden” experimental, (always improving and free willed), experiential “God Astronaut Training Program,” They design into Earth Civilizations They spawn and nurture to graduate new Members from, (as they have outgrown mammalian reproduction and are eternal so don’t need new members but are joyed to provide what they have). They are from the future, the only one a human or human equivalent can attain to.

A big difference between the human and the other kingdom levels beneath it, is how a human does not automatically evolve into their next higher kingdom. It can only be accomplished with the direct assistance from  an existing Older Member from the Next Level Above Human, who has accomplished the transition before, even many times, who comes into human flesh, thus “undercover,” to teach and demonstrate the Overcoming of Humanness Process in stages, that are like “trimesters” in a human baby’s birth, over millenniums of time.

It is the Soul that is as a physical seed containing biological “programs”, like software that is deposited (planted) into a human vehicle (the biological body – genetic hardware) that can be grown into a Next Level Member. TI and DO taught that the Next Level was many membered and referred to them as; Older Members (Jesus described as his Father in Heaven (who wasn’t incarnate then)) and Younger Members like Archangels and those coming up who are provided degrees of service, while the Oldest Member they called the Chief of Chiefs.

TI and DO taught that Souls were actually physical containers, like a pillow case or pocket, though less dense than the human flesh containers they are deposited within and it’s that Soul, if grown to maturity, that becomes a body that is graduated (harvested) into the Next Level and is eternal thereafter. New graduate Souls are then provided with a more dense physical body (a vehicle to wear) appropriate to their new task assignments in their new Above Human Society. These new vehicles are grown on a vine in a laboratory by technicians, said in the Records (Bible) as “made” as opposed to “begotten” – born from mammalian reproductive methods.

It will be shown how Paul of Tarsus became one of the Luciferian’s “best puppets.” Paul was never a disciple of Jesus and was the first Christian preachers used as a pawn to distort the formula Jesus taught and became Satan’s best agent by having him infiltrate the young believers of the Jesus “cult.” It’s not clear whether Paul was well meaning or a Roman agent but his main “blasphemy” (expressing to others things that are against the Next Level’s true information) was saying that no one needs to change significantly to qualify to enter the Kingdom of Heaven but can be saved and enter Heaven by only having faith. Paul did not have an assigned task from Jesus and never quoted him or taught much of what he taught. His letters were influenced by the Luciferian Lower Forces, so can not be trusted and ended up being used to dilute and distort the truth, largely seen as today’s Christianity.

This book will attempt to reveal how in the past, religions and the modern definition of spirituality can be  stepping stones to the whole truth about how to become a member of the Kingdom of Heaven, but only when one begins to see through the ways organizations stifle open minded exploration of new ideas, concepts and perspectives, even on ancient records, can they remain open to what the Older Members say when they come incarnate to look for their “sheep”. Such belief systems today have become “killers of Souls,” due to their promotion of stagnated thinking, archaic concepts, ritualistic practices, less accurate or wrong definition of terms (often lost in translations), changing what was meant to be taken as literal into a figurative or “spiritual,” then diluted meaning and the soothing, even addicting affect that goes with feeling we belong to something higher than humans. If we become teachers in various religions we become easily captured to those mindsets and especially when it becomes popular. Do indicated that people “hardly stood a chance” of seeing the truth through the varied misinterpretations of scripture and those who portray themselves as teachers, guides and facilitators to Godliness.

Likewise, it will be shown how Atheism and any other human belief, non-belief, philosophy, path, practice or scientific study can also be used as steps towards the ultimate perspective of what is most true and thus most real about our reality as a Next Level school. TI and DO said it best as, “All paths can lead to the top of the mountain, but there is only one way off.” In other words to paraphrase Jesus, the way to the highest truths and the Life he spoke of, will only come to those who ask to find, seek to know and knock on the doors of the Living Beings who Created everything, all the planets and all the life forms, whose “kingdom” is not of this world, but who exist throughout the literal Heavens. Becoming a member of the Next Level was always meant to be an individual endeavor. Being part of a group that refers to themselves as on a path to God has nothing to do with the relationship each could choose to form and maintain with an Older Member in the Next Level by projecting their asking far into the most distant stars (heavens) to ask how to become a prospective candidate for Membership. This is what Jesus meant by teaching to address the Father in Heaven with our prayers. “Heaven” is defined to include all the elevated areas above the earth, but especially where the planets and stars are seen and any and all points beyond.

It will be shown how the overall Return of the Next Level Kingdom was scheduled in Two Primary Harvest WAVES, the FIRST and the LAST:

The FIRST was presented when the Two Returning Older Members awakened their chosen and prepared human vehicles (bodies) in the early 1970’s and then unknowingly began their 1260 day prophecy period in 1973, but attracted almost all their first students when they were invited to speak in the North Hollywood part of Los Angeles, California starting in March/April of 1975, that resulted in subsequent public meetings in the San Francisco Bay area and then in Waldport, Oregon, which was the meeting I, named by Do, Sawyer attended and joined from.

It was October of 1975 when TI and DO, then going by the names Bo and Peep were propelled into the U.S. national, “town square” like spotlight, covered by all three network news stations, because 34 individuals left all behind after hearing Bo and Peep’s information at the Waldport, Oregon meeting. At that meeting TI and DO spoke of needing to leave all behind to begin to overcome the human world, that is like that start of a metamorphosis of a caterpillar into a butterfly. The caterpillar must leave it’s world behind to begin it’s chrysalis stage. The chrysalis was equivalent to a Christening or Christing that Jesus completed by the time of his Transfiguration. After Jesus voluntarily set up his capture, knowing the corrupt religious leadership wanted to kill him, he “layed down his body” on his Father’s instruction, saying “no man takes it from me” (his human vehicles life). Then he healed that body over 3 days time, a characteristic of what he had metamorphosed into inside his human vehicle. He proceeded to prove to his disciples he was still flesh and bone, and was NOT a SPIRIT and could eat and drink and be touched, but could also appear and disappear and defy gravity at will, a characteristic of the “changed over” vehicle he had. After proving these things and many more to them for about 40 days, he took his changed over physical body with him into a “cloud” that humans today might call a UFO, but is actually in this case a cloud (covered) physical spacecraft.

TI and DO’s speaking (prophecy) period of 1260 days was geared primarily to the Souls who had completed their previous trimester of Overcoming of Humanness Lesson Plan, they began while in the flesh with Jesus and for some before then with Moses. It will be shown how these Souls were spoken of primarily as the Four Living Beings and the Four and Twenty Elders and I suspect the two groups referred to as 7 Angels each, equaling 42 who became the FIRST “Fruit” Harvested, the number of members of the Heaven’s Gate group, (38 + 4).

Every harvest requires “leaps of faith” (so to speak, though they are not at all “blind”, though appear to be for those who don’t recognize their calling). For Jesus’ Apostles (at least, but perhaps for the 70 as well) they could have left behind family, houses and land to literally follow Jesus, which is one Edge of the Two Edged Instruction that becomes like a sword in how it cuts ties, and this is what was referred to as the “catching away”, actually being “caught” (like a fish), where the truth is the bait to catch the human vehicle by, as Jesus said to his first disciples he would make them “fishers of men”. This part of the Overcoming of Humanness Process was distorted into the idea of “rapture”. TI and DO had the same requirement of those who chose to become their students.

Jesus, at his exit time, required his faithful Apostles (an assigned task to be His delegates to the world) to “give their life” in service to His (their Older Member’s) instructions that would result in their Souls exit of their incarnation –  the death of their human vehicle. For Jesus and His Apostles and other fully dedicated Students (Disciples), that meant speaking publically the truth Jesus provided which He knew would get them killed eventually. (As he said, if they hate me they will hate you). So He sent them to their human death but He knew their Soul would not be harmed and would enter into LIFE in the Next Level where they would be rewarded with a new Next Level vehicle, grown especially for each one of them. (The Next Level grows physical vehicles to full maturity on a vine, as mammalian reproduction is primitive to them and is the reason that desire for sexuality and procreation on the human level needs to be overcome as part of the qualifications for Next Level membership). For these 38+4 students with Do, after years of consideration (I witnessed the preparation for until September of 1994 when I left them), though they preferred to not need to do this, chose to exit their incarnations by ingesting a strong barbiturate mixture that put their vehicles into permanent sleep in what the world would see as a mass suicide. They were at that time referred to as Heaven’s Gate so the headlines read with phrases like “Heaven’s Gate Suicide cult”. This is NOT to say “suicide” is the answer for anyone, as we each actually can not grow unless we have a physical body. Suicide on the human level is most often a selfish act and a way to avoid learning difficult lessons in life. This LAST harvest WAVE comes with the overall instruction to Stand for TI and DO, which will not be looked at kindly by those who are invested in misinformation.

Do certainly knew he and Ti’s group was a “subculture” and in response to being labeled a cult by the media said they were the “cult of truth” and the “cult of cults.” It will be shown that Jesus and his disciples were just as much a “cult” in their day, in relationship to what had become the “normal” cultures of the mainstream religious, the governmental institutions and that society, that Jesus and TI and DO had no allegiance to, though also didn’t choose to fight against.

TI and DO’s information is shown to align with the prophecy as delivered via the Seven Thunders (Roars) by the Lion of the Tribe of Juda, the Seventh of which started when Do and his Crew compiled a Book they named, ‘How and When “Heaven’s Gate” (The Door to the Physical Kingdom Level Above Human) May Be Entered’ (Purple Book). This Book that became the basis of their web site HeavensGate.com along with Their Exit Statements demonstrated the conclusion to the FIRST Hour shown in prophecy as the 1st Seal Opening – with Do “sitting” on His White “Horse” – the human vehicle He chose, that had even been last named “Applewhite”. White, mostly had to do with making that vehicle “pure”, though the vehicle’s skin coloration is described in prophecy as, “His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow”. All racial consciousness, identifying oneself by their vehicles race, needs to be overcome to graduate into Membership in the Next Level.

The LAST “Harvest” WAVE pertains most to those recorded as the “remaining,” “remnant” or those “elected” and who elect to take their next step towards graduation when they get the calling. These are also Souls who were brought back by the Next Level to have the opportunity to take over a human vehicle the Next Level helped them prepare, to recognize their Heavenly Father in the incarnation named Do. That recognition would be of His teachings –  the words and information He and Ti provided that constitute His (Holy) Mind aka Spirit and His characteristic behaviors and ways that He demonstrated while incarnate that required of his Students the same showing of allegiance to Him as Jesus required of those who chose to become His students. These will be faced with the lesson plan (song), that at the least entails believing TI and DO represent that Kingdom that created the earth and all of it’s occupants and are willing to stand in defense of that belief and maintain that stand until their departure – no matter what the consequences. This “standing” takes place primarily during what was prophesied as the “Time of great trouble not seen since the beginning of the world,” aka the Great Tribulation, starting largely during the 4th thru 6th Seal Openings that are upon us in 2017.

This time period has also been referred to in OT prophecy as the Judgment time period (day) or more specifically the Judgment Hour (approx. 40 years) that begins at the end of the FIRST Hour after Do and Crew exited in 1997, shown as beginning with the time of the 7th Angel’s Trumpet Sounding.

That Sounding first took place by Do’s coming public (without Ti’s incarnate presence) in the 1990’s by what can be seen as the “7 Thunders/Roars” of Revelations 10, the first of which started when He, with His Older Member – Ti, came public in 1975, that Do completed in 1988 by writing a booklet entitled “’88 Update – The UFO Two and their Crew.” (To TI and DO the acronym UFO simply referred to a “cloud of light” – a Next Level spacecraft hidden by a cloud covering as opposed to being a Space Alien craft). Subsequent Roars/Thunders are shown as; the 1992 Beyond Human Video Tape Series Do and Crew made, the 1993 Info-Ad in USA Today, then the dozens of publications in alternative newspapers, the 1994 Student delivered public meeting schedule (as Do didn’t give any further public meetings himself after doing so with Ti from 1975-1976), the 1995 posting to the World Wide Web the document ‘Undercover “Jesus” Surfaces Before Departure,’ where Do outlines most boldly how he was the return of the same Older Member who had been incarnate in the body named, “Jesus”. Jesus  knew he wouldn’t be returning incarnate in the same human vehicle he left with, which is why he said, “many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many” and finally in two phases of soundings, the 7th as the Heavens Gate Web site that provided an anthology of all their materials since 1975 followed less than a year later in the timing of the Hale Bopp Comet’s very unusual display, scientists are still pondering, Their exit of  their incarnations in 1997 and the Exit Statements They made.

As with all prophecy there are multiple interpretations and multiple manifestations in both the physical and mental/spiritual realms. Pertaining to things humans did, as I believe was set up by a Next Level crew to provide, came the 2009 National Geographic Channel’s internet broadcast documentary entitled, “Final Report: Heaven’s Gate” that was primarily a recap of the media frenzy and misinformation from their very public “laying down of their (human) lives”, except for suggesting as a question whether they, identified as “Heaven’s Gate” (TI and DO and Crew), were the anticipated “Second Coming of Jesus,” perhaps the first and biggest national media organization to voice such a perspective.

This time in 2017, as a part of this LAST “harvest” WAVE, includes what I believe is this “Little Book” that is also described in Rev 5:1 prophecy as the “backside” or “after” and/or the historic background “behind” (what was provided by Jehovah/Father and Moses/Jesus). The BOOK comprises the updates TI and DO and crew brought that they had published that I refer to as the Purple Book, as it’s said in prophecy to be “written from within the Throne” and TI and DO were the Throne. (Most of the Purple Books contents can be found via links in the Appendix of this book).

This Little Book was said to become available and spoken about (prophesied) during the time of the 7th Angel’s Trumpet Sounding that was scheduled to occur after the Two Witnesses and Crew have exited their incarnations and their Soul bodies invisibly ascended back into their heavenly abodes on Next Level Spacecrafts, from whence they came. It will be shown how the Two Witnesses and Crew perform all their incarnate tasks during the time described as the Sixth Angel’s Trumpet Sounding.

Part of the Tribulation time will be marked by a great deal of shows put on by the Luciferian space aliens and/or those humans who have become their witting or unwitting slaves. Examples will be provided of how these show humans things recorded as “great wonders” to witness. A preview would seem to be what happened in Fatima where some young girls all saw an Image on a number of occasions that spoke to their minds, who they thought was the Virgin Mary, which was recorded as Our Lady at Fatima in 1916. TI and DO talked about this and called these kinds of things tricks and indicated they were like holograms produced by the Lower Forces.

Further it will be covered, how the Revelations chapter 13 “Image” that “speaks” could be just such a hologram or of some equivalence and could deceive many because of. Perhaps it will be of Jesus according to some painters depiction, with flowing robes, barefoot and/or riding a white horse. It’s interesting how Fatima’s sighting and others like it occurred during a time when we know humans did not have the technology to produce holograms and by my calculations 1916 was during the 2nd Angel’s Trumpet Sounding. Those Soundings purpose was essentially to announce the arrival of the participating Souls for the Harvest WAVESs, both from the Next Level and of the Luciferians and also announced things to come but were accompanied by examples (like Fatima) of how those things in the prophecy would be fulfilled during the 7th Trumpet Sounding.

While with TI and DO’s experiential classroom we saw a report from a book Bob Lazar was allowed to read while he was employed by Oppenheimer in Area 51, his job being to back engineer the engine from a recovered “UFO”. In the book that allegedly space aliens wrote, they said they “created Jesus” and have film of him on the cross. Even if there is no truth to any of this, it is not uncommon to hear from various “contactees” the same kind of thing in relationship to Jesus, where even a number of contactees themselves say, indicate or imply they are the return of Jesus, which coordinates with what Jesus said would happen with his Kingdom’s Return.

However, Jesus indicated his true believers would be shown signs in the Sun, Moon and Stars (which includes the planets) and any of the many bodies in space, e.g. dwarf planets, asteroids, meteors, comets. This is one of the ways we know such holographic like tricks are not generated by the Next Level as they occur on earth or in earth’s atmosphere or very near to earth “space,” where the Space Aliens are no longer allowed to traverse beyond. Next Level Signs occur in deep space, yet as close as the Moon. The space aliens and/or humans are also able to perform other events such as making “fire come down from the sky,” perhaps like fireballs the Next Level used before 2016. I’ve seen two or three so far that may be these kinds of tricks as based on reports are near the earth. Jesus indicated on earth one would see “distress of nations” (wars and financial collapse), “perplexity, a (state of) quandary (many events that are confusing rendered into conspiracy theories to explain, UFO’s and Space Alien abductions, Cattle mutilations, JFK, RFK, MLK assassinations, 9/11 attacks, war in iraq, 2008 financial crisis) and “waves roaring,” seen by the two large tsunami’s in Sumatra and Japan (Fukashima) and in the U.S. by hurricane Katrina and Sandy during the time approaching the 2017 tribulation time, “earthquakes in diverse places” (significant increase around the Pacific rim known as the “ring of fire.”  (Note these Signs have been shown around the world and in the U.S. essentially starting in earnest in the 1890’s, ahead of the FIRST WAVE of Jesus and His Father’s Kingdom, but then began to escalate in the 1990’s for DO’s coming Public as the return of the same Older Member Soul from the Kingdom of Heaven that was incarnate in the human vehicle named “Jesus” that began the SECOND or LAST WAVE that would be finished by his RETURN IN HIS GLORY – not incarnate, to finalize the Judgement Hour.)

The Luciferian Space Aliens have manipulated humans from the start of the civilization, largely recorded in religious literature but more directly, according to reports, especially as of the 1940’s and 1950’s, through direct contact with government military and indirectly through contactees with displays of technology, they seek help from humans to develop and in perhaps the biggest way, by motivating discarnates (spirits of dead humans) to influence living humans to do things and/or respond in all ways that replaces their recognition of the Real True Kingdom Above Human and those who have been sent time and again to help some see through the illusion they pose. These Luciferians thereby insert themselves as a facsimili “god” – aka False God built upon misinformation.

It will be shown how “The Wrath of God,” actually the Next Level’s generation of “agitation to stimulate movement” of allegiance towards the true Kingdom of God and any potential future, that includes the Next Level’s “anger” against the Luciferian Space aliens who have used human, so called Christian religious leaders as puppets to foster an illusionary belief of having a “personal relationship” with Jesus, extends into the 6th and 7th Seal periods, having been demonstrated in comparably small degrees periodically up until this point. That agitation and anger is largely seen in the 7 Angels who pour out their Vials, (plagues and calamities) beginning to manifest undiluted during the 6th Seal Opening.

It will be shown how at the end of that conclusive time of Judgment, when the opportunities to change are “done,” Do will arrive in His Next Level made physical body, described as, “like the Son of Man,” (Rev 14:14), thus like Jesus’ “dipped (baptized) in blood,” “glorified body,” returning this LAST time with his Armada of spacecrafts, piloted by those “Saints” who FIRST graduated, having their own new Next Level grown physical bodies to “wear.” This time their appearance will be more literally “For Every Eye to See,” because of their very apparent mass of spacecrafts and their brightness of light in the very near heavens so humans will be able to see/understand even with their naked eye and I imagine even for those who no eyes at all. I would say they will see it in their Mind’s eye. However, if humans have not sought to align with TI and DO’s Mind by this time, they will not know what they are observing.

Before Do and his Armada returns, the “Kings of the Earth,” led by the U.S. Secret Government (Mystery Babylon), BEAST (sly, deceitful human mammals), that formed in the 1950’s to cover up the evidence of Space Aliens on earth, (who the Next Level released from their underground “bottomless pit” prison), working to some degree with or against certain space alien groups (Dragon), each would have secured the establishment of their New World Order relationship via having the equivalent of the 9/11 attacks on the NYC World Trade Center and Pentagon and the conspiracy to program humans as responsible for Global Warming (that prophecy indicates is Next Level generated) and through the Global Financial Crisis “hid themselves in the dens and rocks” (Rev 6:15) while preparing to fight, or escape the earth to escape this Armada and it’s final judgment against them, that many will think are the “bad space aliens”.

Some in that Secret Governmental BEAST seem to believe that there are some Space Aliens who are “good” and that the ones they believe are coming to do them harm are the “bad aliens,” even Reptilians with slave greys, when the truth is that all the Space Aliens are related to Lucifer and his Associate Souls, who once had elementary (student level) service to the Next Level but fell away and became renegades against the Next Level and will try to steer humans in any direction but looking up to the Next Level. I suspect they themselves at this point believe those I am referring to as the Next Level are just another alien space race as they were/are. However, the Space Aliens are all human equivalents. None of them became Adult Members of the Next Level Above Human.

These Luciferians, once imprisoned under the earth, who initially had physical bodies that could live much longer than humans have ways of generating hybrid physical bodies from human DNA, eggs and sperm, they obtain from abductions. When the Next Level allowed them to circulate on the surface again, they sought to manipulate powerful humans to enact their agenda to escape the planet while capturing Souls to add to their ranks, which they hope can occur before an anticipated return to prison and subsequent recycling in the “Lake of Fire” thereafter.

The irony is that TI and DO’s Next Level Mothership and Armada are the only ones arriving from deep space to war against the BEASTS and the Luciferian Space Aliens and all those in their allegiance, which will be no contest at all but will result in Their casting these two Beasts (U.S. and E.U.) and the False Prophets (The religious leadership and perhaps especially the Vatican and LDS Mormon enclaves, etc.) and those in their allegiance into the Lake of Fire because they have become “weeds” in the Next Level’s “garden” and have disturbed the usefulness of Their human kingdom and Their earth’s production of “fruit” (new Membership). It is at that point the Luciferians will be re-locked up underground for 1000 years and it seems there might be a new stage of “overcoming classroom” to follow that 1000 year period, after the Luciferians are released for a time to wage another last battle against that “camp of the Saints.” At that time the Next Level will cast the Luciferians into the Lake of Fire to be with the Beasts and the False Prophets. This is followed by the judgment of those in the Book of Life and those who are not who are in the receptacles for the discarnate Spirits, referred to as “Death and Hell” who are also cast into the Lake of Fire.

TI and DO brought the “new song” as described in Revelations chapter 14. Although in part They took those names from the Sound of Music song, “Doe a deer”, they described their names as a octave apart where Ti pushed Do to his next octave, if I recall correctly. According to prophecy the Older Member who was incarnate in the vehicle named Jesus upon return would, “write upon him (each student/disciple) the name of my God (Deity),” (Rev 3:12) and in Joh 16:25 “…but I shall shew ((announce, make known, report, speak, tell, declare)) you plainly of the Father.” In other words it was Do who revealed who His “Father” (Older Member) was to the student body. Ti didn’t announce it. In fact Do had to learn it for himself in their first year or so of their awakening together to their task, by seeing how Ti’s choices were always better than his which was hard for him to accept, he said. And it was Ti who told their students who Do was as “our Father” (Older Member) and that we each needed to make our “committal” to Him. And it was Ti who said in 1977 or 1978 that we the students “needed to give them our will, which Do later told us, she wondered if we’d lose half the class by saying that. As it turned out over half those initial student did drop out thereafter, for one reason or another that amounted to not wanting to yield their will 100%. Therefore TI and DO were one another’s “Witness” as said in Luk 10:22.

TI and DO didn’t teach from the Bible, nor quoted chapter and verse that I heard in my nineteen years their student, yet had an uncanny, thorough, direct to the point, non-academic, base understanding of it’s core contents, that I only came to recognize mostly after I left their “classroom” in 1994 and began to study the scriptural records that with a lot of asking of TI and DO for help and encouragement via dreams they were in, led to the focus for this book. Some of these understandings only surface when considering alternative translations to English from the Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek and sometimes Latin origins. TI and DO said the Next Level worked very hard to preserve an accurate record of what Jesus said, as recorded in the four gospels, that years ago humans published as “Red Letter” editions, that we could rely on as a help to awaken more by and to draw clues from. This is not to say I got everything in this book the most right it could be. I know much could still be tweaked and realized but I think it’s adequate to show the possibilities to anyone who seeks for the whole truth. I don’t pretend this work is needed by anyone to have a relationship with the Next Level. TI and DO taught that there would be a group of people who would never hear about TI and DO and still be judged worthy of having their Souls and/or Spirits saved by the Next Level for a future “planting” some time after the recycling is finished.

The Next Level doesn’t need new members but it’s their joy to offer the opportunity to Consciously Evolve Beyond Human. That opportunity is still available by projecting our asking to Our “Father” in Heaven (deep outer space) and by showing Him our seriousness by beginning to adopt his behavior and ways and provision of service, according to the instructions of his most resent incarnate, Older Members, in the names TI and DO.

There is not and will not be any legitimate group or cult to form or join. There are no Older Members on Earth at this time or planned to be back before the Civilization is spaded. The information TI and DO and Crew left behind in the many writings, video’s and audio tapes are for personal absorption and application and are not intended by Do and Crew to become the basis of a “Religious Study Group”. They are to be used to help each of those who the information speaks to, further separate from the human evolutionary kingdom, though the speed in which that happens remains up to each of us to implement and the best way to start that is to speak directly to Do (in our heads, privately, as Jesus said, “in your closet”, never intending group prayer meetings, etc. which are part of the distortion in religions, however well intended.) Though I am told by some they believe in TI and DO, I keep no lists or contact information on people and have no “groups” and provide no contact information with any former classmates. However there have been start-up groups and attempts to organize that I have been invited to and have declined. There have also been complete fraudulent news stories about TI and DO.


*** TABLE OF CONTENTS ***

I. INTRODUCTION
A. ADDITIONAL STATEMENTS THIS BOOK WILL BRING AN ABUNDANCE OF SCRIPTURAL EVIDENCE TO PROVING

B. DISCLAIMERS
1. DO AND CREWS POST, “OUR POSITION AGAINST SUICIDE”
2. THERE IS NO CULT OR LEADERS AS TI and DO ARE NO LONGER IN HUMAN FLESH BODIES
3. MY MOTIVATION FOR WRITING THIS BOOK
4. TI and DO WERE NOT INTERESTED IN ATTRACTING FOLLOWERS – They were willing to accept anyone as a student but were choosy about who they thought could accomplish the task of overcoming the human condition. Public meetings were only held over two approximate nine month periods with about seventeen years of cloistered Overcoming “Classroom” in between, during which many gradually learned it wasn’t what they wanted so freely left the group and in many cases when the group had the capacity were given funds or an airline or bus ticket to go where they wanted to go.

C. BIBLIOGRAPHY AND SCRIPTURE NOTATION

D. INTRODUCTION TO TI and DO

1. THE NAMES AND TEMPORARY ORGANIZATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH TI and DO
2. TI and DO’S TERMINOLOGY CHANGES AND CONCEPT UPDATES
3. PRIMER OF TI and DO’S INITIAL TEACHINGS

a. SUMMARY OF TI and DO’S BEGINNING AND FIRST PUBLIC STATEMENT

II. JESUS PROPHECY OF THE RETURN OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD/HEAVEN
A. THE UNOBSERVABLE (THROUGH INSPECTION BY EYESIGHT), IN SECRET AS “A THIEF IN THE NIGHT” (UNDERCOVER) RETURN OF THE FATHER, THE SON (LAMB), “JESUS” AND THEIR STUDENTS, THE “SAINTS” (ANGELS) IN FLESH (CARNAL) HUMAN BODIES

1. JESUS SAY’S “The kingdom of God cometh not with observation,” Luk 17:21
2. “SON OF MAN” IS A PHRASE THAT JESUS USED TO IDENTIFY HIMSELF IN ARAMAIC AS A CHILD (SON) KIN OF GOD (HIS HUSBAND) WHILE OF A MORTAL
3. JESUS SAID HE WOULD HAVE A NEW NAME AND THAT HIS FATHER WOULD HAVE A NAME AND THE CITY OF GOD THAT IS THE NEW JERUSALEM WOULD ALSO HAVE A NEW NAME UPON HIS RETURN

4. RESURRECTION – TO STAND UP OR RISE AGAIN – IN-CARNAL (FLESH) AGAIN – (REINCARNATION), “BORN AGAIN” OF WATER AND BORN OF SPIRIT/MIND

a. ACCORDING TO TI and DO, “REINCARNATION” AS IT’S TAUGHT BY EASTERN RELIGIONS OF HINDU AND BUDDHIST ORIGINS IS NOT ACCURATE. IT INCLUDES STANDING UP AGAIN WHICH IS DEFINED AS PERFORMING SERVICE TO ONES OLDER MEMBER FROM THE NEXT LEVEL SHOWN AS THE DELIVERY OF PROPHECY
b. BORN OF WATER = BORN OF FLESH – WHICH IS A PROCESS OF “STANDING UP IN” (TAKING OVER) A HUMAN VEHICLE
c. WHAT CHRISTIANS SAY ABOUT BEING “BORN AGAIN” AND “SAVED” HAS IT’S APPLICATION BUT HAS BECOME SO DISTORTED IS NO LONGER REFLECTIVE OF FATHER AND JESUS MIND/SPIRIT INTENTION
d. JESUS HAVING A NEW NAME THUS HAVING A NEW “SON OF MAN” BODY IS ANOTHER PROOF THAT HE IS RESURRECTING, RE-INCARNATING
e. “GOD IS NOT THE GOD OF THE DEAD, BUT OF THE LIVING” and “GOD IS A SPIRIT”
f. JESUS SAID, “BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS I AM” and indicated ABRAHAM WAS BACK TO SEE JESUS’ DAY
g. JOHN THE BAPTIST WAS A RETURNING ELDER STUDENT SENT TO FULFILL THE ISAIAH PROPHECY OF A MESSENGER TO ANNOUNCE JESUS ARRIVAL BUT HAD NOT YET BECOME AN ADULT (AS OPPOSED TO A CHILD) MEMBER OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD
h. PAUL OF TARSUS, “RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD” EXPLANATION SEEMS FOUNDED UPON JESUS AND TI and DO’S TEACHINGS THAT INCLUDES AN INTRODUCTION TO A NEXT LEVEL (CELESTIAL) “FLESH” BODY
i. JESUS SAYS “THE REST OF THE DEAD LIVED NOT AGAIN UNTIL THE THOUSAND YEARS WERE FINISHED”
j. OLD TESTAMENT PROPHET DANIEL IS TOLD OF HIS RETURN AND PEOPLE IN GRAVES RISING TO THEIR JUDGMENT

5. JESUS DESCRIBES HIS RETURN AND REVEALING TO INCLUDE HIS FATHER COMING WITH HIM INCARNATE SUBSTANTIATED FURTHER BY DISCIPLES JOHN, PETER AND THE OLD TESTAMENT PROPHET DANIEL

a. JESUS SAYS “WE WILL COME UNTO HIM AND MAKE OUR ABODE WITH HIM”
b. JESUS SAYS IN Joh 16:25 – UPON HIS RETURN HE DOES NOT SPEAK IN PARABLES AKA PROVERBS, OR STORIES. INSTEAD, DISCIPLES WILL BE SHOWN (SEE FOR THEMSELVES THE FATHER) WHEN FATHER AND SON TOGETHER SPEAK/ANNOUNCE INSTRUCTIONS (COMMANDS)

i. HOW JESUS IS REVEALED IN PROPHECY – CORRELATION OF 1TH 4:16-17 WITH REV 6:1-2 AND THE REV 5:1 “BOOK” WRITTEN WITHIN AND ON THE BACKSIDE, “WITHIN” BEING THE 7 ROAR/THUNDERS AND THE “LITTLE BOOK” (REV 10) BEING THE BACKSIDE AS IT COMES LATER AFTER TI and DO AND FIRST FRUIT CREW HAS EXITED THEIR INCARNATIONS AND IT’S CONTENT PERTAINS TO BIBLE PROPHECY FULFILLMENT AS PROOF THAT TI and DO WERE/ARE THE PROMISED INCARNATE RETURN
ii. A SATAN IS AN ADVERSARIAL DISCARNATE “INFLUENCE” THE NEXT LEVEL ASSIGNS TO STUDENTS TO TEST THEIR RESOLVE THAT TI and DO CALLED BOOGERS
iii. THE TWO WITNESSES ARE SUBDUED BY THE BEASTS MEDIA MOUTHPIECE (NOT KILLED)

iv. BOTH OF THE TWO WITNESSES ARE CHRISTS
v. JESUS IS THE LION OF THE TRIBE OF JUDA, THE ROOT OF DAVID, WHO OPENS THE BOOK WHICH IS WHY WHAT HE SAYS IS DEPICTED AS A THUNDEROUS ROAR
vi. THE “TWO EDGED SWORD OF HIS MOUTH” EXPLAINED
vii. THE TRINITY IN DO’S WORDS AND JNNODY’S WORDS ON THE “HOLY SPIRIT,” OR “HOLY GHOST”
viii. DO’S WORDS ON RELIGION, THE LUCIFERIAN SPACE ALIENS, GOD, PANTHEISM, THE SECOND COMING, MISINFORMATION OF HAVING A “HEAVEN ON EARTH,” FLOWING ROBE WEARING PEACE AND LOVE JESUS, HUMANS PRAYING TO ‘MASQUERADING “GODS”‘ AND DEPENDENCE ON ONE’S OLDER MEMBER AS THE ONLY SOURCE OF UNLIMITED GROWTH AND KNOWLEDGE

c. JESUS REFERS TO HIS RETURNING AS SON OF MAN (SON OF GOD IN FLESH) IN THE ACCOMPANIMENT OF HIS GLORY (VERY APPARENT TO THE EYES) FATHER AND THE HOLY ANGELS, HIS STUDENT CREW
d. JESUS REFERS TO SON OF MAN SITTING ON THE RIGHT HAND OF POWER AND COMING IN CLOUDS DEPICTING TWO PHASES TO THE OVERALL RETURN, THE FIRST INCARNATE WITH HIS FATHER (POWER) FOR THE FIRST FRUIT HARVEST AND THE SECOND PHASE NON INCARNATE, WHILE STATIONED IN HIS SPACECRAFT ARMADA, UNDERCOVER – CLOAKED – EVEN BY LITERAL CLOUD COVER OVERSEEING AND STIMULATING THE “WINEPRESS” THAT RESULTS IN NEW BELIEVERS GIVING THEIR LIVES IN HIS/THEIR SERVICE THAT CAN RESULT IN THE LOSS OF THEIR PHYSICAL BODIES AS THEIR EXIT METHOD THEY ARE REWARDED FOR
e. ZECHARIAH TALKS OF SEEING TWO OLIVE TREES/LAMPSTANDS ANOINTED (CHRISTS) THAT STAND BY THE LORD OF THE WHOLE EARTH RELATING DIRECTLY TO THE TWO WITNESSES AS OLIVE TREES AND LAMPSTANDS AND THEREFORE BOTH CHRISTS THUS FATHER AND SON RETURNED

f. DANIEL 7:13 DESCRIBES THE OLDER MEMBER AS A SON ARRIVING TO BE WITH HIS OLDER MEMBER, DANIEL 12’s PROPHECY DESCRIBES JESUS STANDING (INCARNATE TO PROPHESY) AND THEN THE “END TIME” TWO (WITNESSES) STANDING (INCARNATE TO PROPHESY), WHO CAN ONLY BE THE SAME FATHER AND SON

g. REVELATIONS 12 DEPICTS THE FATHER’S RETURN INCARNATE IN A FEMALE (WOMAN’S) HUMAN VEHICLE TO BIRTH HIS “SON” (DO), (JESUS) TO THE THRONE TASK DEFINED AS REVELATION 11’S “TWO WITNESSES,” THE SON THEN FOLLOWING THROUGH TO SPIRIT BIRTH THEIR STUDENT BODY, WHOSE SATAN (ADVERSARY) IS LITERALLY LUCIFER, THE DRAGON, WHOM HE BATTLED BEFORE THROUGH HIS INCARNATION AS JESUS AND BEFORE THEN THROUGH HIS INCARNATION AS MOSES. WHILE OUTSIDE HIS INCARNATIONS HE WAS REFERRED TO AS MICHAEL IN HIS COMMUNICATION WITH THE PROPHET DANIEL. LUCIFER AND THE THIRD WHO WERE THE “FALLEN ANGELS” ARE SOULS WHO THESE DAYS ARE THE SPACE ALIENS WHO ARE HUMAN EQUIVALENTS AND ARE NO LONGER ALLOWED TO TRAVERSE EVEN AS FAR INTO THE SPACE AS THE EARTH’S MOON

i. SHOWS HOW REV 12:16 DEPICTS THE WAY THE WOMAN (GENERATOR OF LIFE) (TI) EXITS HER VEHICLE BECAUSE OF HER OWN CHOICES RATHER THAN BEING KILLED, WHICH IS THE INACCURATE TRANSLATION OF “APOKTEINO AUTO” FOR THE METHOD OF EXIT BY THE TWO WITNESSES THAT SHE IS ONE OF

6. THE “TWO WITNESSES” DESCRIBED IN REVELATIONS 11:3-6 ARE TASKED TO DELIVER THEIR TESTIMONY (SACRIFICE THEIR LIVES STANDING UP FOR THE GOD OF THE EARTH) AS PROPHESY FOR 1260 DAYS REQUIRING PHYSICAL HUMAN BODIES TO SPEAK THROUGH
7. THE OLDER MEMBER FROM THE NEXT LEVEL WHO LAST PERFORMED THE TASK INCARNATE AS JESUS, THE LAMB, IS TASKED BY HIS OLDER MEMBER (FATHER) WHO COMES WITH HIM INCARNATE TO “GET HIM GOING” TO “OPEN THE FIRST SEAL” WITH A “ROAR (THUNDER)” AS IN REV 6:1, BEING THE “LION OF THE TRIBE OF JUDA” IN REV 5:5. THIS “OPENING” IS A “REVEALING” ACCOMPLISHED BY SPEAKING – BRINGING UPDATES TO THE BIBLE AND PROPHECY FULFILLMENT AS THE TWO WITNESSES, WITH HIS HEAVENLY FATHER, INCARNATE IN A FEMALE VEHICLE (WOMAN), BIRTHING HIM TO THE THRONE BEFORE RETURNING (REV 12). HIS NEW VEHICLE IS DESCRIBED IN REV 6:2 AS A “WHITE HORSE,” A HUMAN VEHICLE (BORN OF FLESH) HE MAKES PURE (LIGHT/WHITE) TO SHOW HOW AND HIS “HEAD AND HAIR” ARE COMPARED TO “WOOL AND SNOW” IN REV 1:14. TO “SIT” ON HIS PREPARED “HORSE” IS TO USE IT TO PERFORM HIS TASK. HIS “BOW” REPRESENTS HIS COVENANT WITH HIS LITER OF SOULS (RETURNING SAINTS/ANGELS) TO BE BORN OF MIND/SPIRIT BY THEIR ADHERENCE TO ALL HE TEACHES THAT THEY BEGAN WITH MOSES AND STRENGTHEN WITH JESUS. HE  CONQUERS, OVERCOMES HIS WHITE LUCIFERIAN PROGRAMMED “HORSE” AND THE HUMAN WORLD AND IN SO DOING SERVES AS THE “MIDWIFE” FOR EACH OF THE “SAINTS” TO ALSO CONQUER THEIR HUMANNESS. THESE VERSES DEPICTING PART OF THE TASK THAT MARKS THE FIRST FRUIT HARVEST IN REV 14:15-16

B. WHERE ON THE EARTH THE RETURN IS MOST EVIDENCED
1. JESUS INDICATES THE KINGDOM OF GOD WILL BE GIVEN TO A NEW NATION (ETHNICITY)
2. JESUS SAYS, “WHERE THE BODY IS THE EAGLES WILL BE GATHERED” – THE GEOGRAPHY OF THE TEMPLE AND ALTAR WHERE THE KINGDOM OF GOD/HEAVEN REPRESENTATIVES COMES TO IN THE NEXT AGE
3. WHERE THE TWO WITNESSES COME INCARNATE INDICATES THE GEOGRAPHIC AREA ALSO DESCRIBED AS NON-PHYSICALLY; SODOM, EGYPT AND WHERE THE LORD WAS CRUCIFIED – Page 290

4. THE GREAT CITY IS THE WOMAN NAMED AMERICA WITH IT’S PRINCIPAL TWO CAPITALS IN THE WOMAN NAMED LADY LIBERTY REPRESENTING NEW YORK CITY AND IT’S UNITED NATIONS NEW AGE ORDER AND WASHINGTON D.C. (DISTRICT OF (LADY) COLUMBIA). MYSTERY BABYLON IS THE U.S. SECRET GOVT DESCRIBED AS THE “BEAST” THAT CAME ABOUT FROM THE TEMPORARY RELEASE OF THE LUCIFERIAN SPACE ALIENS FROM THEIR “BOTTOMLESS PIT” PRISON. THE SOUTHWEST U.S. LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA VICINITY IS THE NEW NON-PHYSICAL (SPIRITUAL) JERUSALEM

5. WHAT TI and DO SAID ABOUT HOW AND WHY THE U.S.A. WAS THE LOCATION FOR THEIR RETURN; WHAT LIFE IN THE NEW GEOGRAPHIC AREA WILL LOOK LIKE – I.E. NO WAR ON THEIR SOIL, GREAT PROSPERITY THAT ALL NATIONS ON EARTH LOOK TO AND PROFIT FROM, PROGRESS AND FREEDOMS IN ALL WAYS; EQUAL RIGHTS FOR RACES (ETHNICITY), WOMEN, BEHAVIORAL CHOICES, TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCES, MORE FREEDOMS OF EXPRESSION (SPEECH IN RELIGION, POLITICS AND ENTERTAINMENT), SOCIAL ECONOMICS, HEALTH CONSCIOUSNESS, ALL TO PROVIDE A FULL FREE WILL OF CHOICES FOR ALL RETURNING SOULS TO BECOME EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT TO BECOME, EVEN ALLOWING THEM TO GO AGAINST THE CREATORS OF THEIR ENTIRE REALITY OR TO GRADUATE INTO THE EVOLUTIONARY LEVEL ABOVE HUMAN, THE KINGDOM OF GOD, KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. ADDITIONALLY, HOW UPON TI and DO AND CREWS EXIT BY 1997 ALL OF PEACEFUL COEXISTENCE, SOCIAL EQUALITIES AND HEALTH, RELIGIOUS AND SPEECH FREEDOMS BEGIN TO REVERSE.- Page 297+

C. THE RETURN IS FOR THE HARVEST OF SOULS – REV 14.
THE KINGDOM OF GOD/HEAVEN’S QUALIFICATIONS TO GRADUATE THE HUMAN KINGDOM FOR THE 144 AND THE MYRIAD OF THOUSANDS. NO STUDENT’S PHYSICAL BODY WILL BE TAKEN AS THE “STALKS” ARE CUT DOWN. THE SONG’S OF MOSES, JESUS AND TI and DO REFER TO EACH OF A THREE TRIMESTER MIND/SPIRIT AND SOUL BIRTH LESSON PLAN, WHERE ONE’S FRUIT IS THE PRODUCT OF THE KERNEL/SEED OF GRAIN OF WHEAT AKA CORN, GROWN FROM THE HEAD/EAR (BRAIN) IN THE “STANDING UP” (GIVING) OF THE STALK (BODY) IN SERVICE TO THE CURRENT OLDER MEMBER

1. FIRST TRIMESTER: DEVELOPMENT/TAMING OF THE HUMAN BODY IN THE JEHOVAH/MOSES CLASSROOM DEPICTED AS THE GROWTH OF THE BLADE. LOOKING TO ONE’S OLDER MEMBER; MOSES, MAKING A COMMITMENT TO FOLLOW ALL THE COMMANDMENTS AND FOLLOWING ALL INSTRUCTIONS
2. SECOND TRIMESTER: DEFLATING THE HUMAN “BALLOON” (MIND), CUTTING ONE’S HUMAN ROOTS, GRAFTING TO ONES OLDER MEMBER; JESUS AND ONE’S NEW FAMILY OF FELLOW BELIEVERS; FURTHER UPDATING BEHAVIOR AND WAYS AND STANDING UP FOR JESUS KNOWING IT WOULD MEAN SACRIFICING ONE’S HUMAN LIFE
3. THIRD TRIMESTER: GIVING YOUR LIFE AND WILL TO THE INCARNATE OLDER MEMBERS WHO FULFILL THE TASK OF THE TWO WITNESSES. COMPLETING YOUR METAMORPHIC OVERCOMING OF THE HUMAN EVOLUTIONARY LEVEL BY SEPARATING FROM YOUR HUMAN ROOTS TO GIVE ALL YOUR HEART, MIND, SOUL AND STRENGTH TO YOUR OLDER MEMBERS. PUBLICITY STANDING UP FOR YOUR OLDER MEMBERS, DISSEMINATING THEIR INFORMATION WILLING TO LOSE THE HUMAN BODY YOU OCCUPY BECAUSE OF. LAYING DOWN YOUR LIFE WHEN THE OLDER MEMBER DECIDES ITS THE INSTRUCTION TO EXIT TO COMPLETE ONE’S METAMORPHIC MIND/SPIRIT/SOUL BIRTH. THIS OVERCOMING/BIRTHING IS ALSO TERMED ONE’S CHRISTING OR CHRISTENING AS ONE IS BECOMING ANOINTED WITH THE OLDER MEMBERS MIND WHICH IS “LIGHT” THAT WHEN FILLING ONE’S ENTIRE VEHICLE YIELDS TRUE ENLIGHTENMENT

4. THE HARVEST IS IN TWO PHASES AND INCLUDES 144 AND A MYRIAD OF THOUSANDS. THOSE WHO ARE THE FIRST FRUIT EXIT FROM THEIR BODIES FIRST AND THE LAST SPOKEN OF AS THE REMNANT/REMAINING WHO BELIEVE IN THE MOST CURRENTLY INCARNATE REPRESENTATIVES (THE TWO WITNESSES) AND STAND FOR THEM – EXIT THEIR BODIES DURING THE TRIBULATION PERIOD “WINEPRESS” THAT STARTS GRADUALLY WITH THE OPENING OF THE SECOND SEAL IN REV 6 THAT IS HEADLINED BY THE “RED HORSE” WHO IS PERMITTED TO WAGE AN ENDLESS WAR

a. THE 144 AND MYRIAD OF THOUSANDS SING A NEW SONG. THERE IS THE SONG OF MOSES, JESUS AND THE NEW SONG OF TI and DO. THE SONG IS THE LESSON PLAN. TI REFERRED TO THEIR LESSON PLAN AS A “PIANO ROLL” COMPARED TO THE SONG “OLD McDONALD’S FARM” ADDING ON STEPS WHILE STILL MAINTAINING PREVIOUS STEPS TO BUILD ONE COMPLETE SONG. THEIR NAMES CAME FROM THE NOTES FROM THE SCALE DO, RE, ME, FA, SO, LA, TI AS INTRODUCED IN THE THEATRICAL PRODUCTION AND MOVIE CALLED THE SOUND OF MUSIC THAT TI and DO FELT WAS IN PART A NEXT LEVEL INSPIRED STORY LINE BLUEPRINT OF THEIR TASK OF TEACHING THEIR STUDENT BODY TO “SING”

i. SUMMARY OF THE (SONG) REQUIREMENTS OF THOSE WHO BECOME PART OF THE FIRST HARVEST; THEY FOLLOW THE LAMB (OLDER MEMBER) WHITHER SOEVER HE GOETH. They RECOVER their VIRGINITY FOR CHRYSALIS (CHRISTING) SAKE – BREAKING COMMITMENTS (MARRIAGES, ETC.) TO ALL HUMANS – CHARACTERISTIC EACH OF THE OVERCOMERS (TRUE ORIGINAL ISRAELI’S) MUST HAVE. THEY HAVE NO GUILE (DECEIT) AND ARE WITHOUT FAULT. THEY HAVE WASHED THEIR ROBES ACCORDING TO THE INSTRUCTIONS FROM THE INCARNATE OLDER MEMBER THEY BOND TO
ii. THREE ANGELS HOLD THE DELIVERY OF THE “EVERLASTING GOSPEL” TO BE PREACHED THROUGHOUT THE WORLD THROUGH THE INTERNET, THE SECOND SHOWING THE “TWO FALLS” OF THE U.S. BEAST ESSENTIALLY INTO GLOBAL ENDLESS WAR AND GLOBAL ENDLESS FINANCIAL CRISIS AND THE THIRD THE JUDGMENT HOUR OF 40 YEARS WHERE PEOPLE ARE JUDGED BY WHO THEY SHOW THEIR ALLEGIANCE TO BETWEEN THE ONE TRUE KINGDOM OF GOD AND HUMAN OR HUMAN EQUIVALENT SPACE ALIEN (MAMMALIAN) FORMS OF WEALTH AND TREASURE

b. THE “FIRST” FRUIT HARVEST IS COMPLETED BY THE TIME OF FIRST OF SEVEN SEALS OF REV 6 AS A RESULT OF THE TWO WITNESSES PROPHECY PERIOD OF 1260 DAYS THAT SERVED TO GATHER THE FLOCK OR RETURNING SAINTS, TAGGED BY THE MEDIA AS THE UFO TWO, FOLLOWED BY A TOTAL OF ABOUT 21 YEARS OF CLASSROOM TIME ALL BEGAN IN MARCH OF 1972 WHEN TI and DO’S HUMAN VEHICLES MET IN HOUSTON, TEXAS AND WAS PRIMARILY CONCLUDED BY MARCH OF 1997 WHEN DO AND 38 STUDENTS LAID DOWN THEIR BODIES AS THE HEAVEN’S GATE GROUP AT THE TIMING OF THE PERIHELION OF THE MYSTERIOUS HALE BOPP COMET
c. THE “LAST” HARVEST IS COMPARED TO A WINEPRESS AND IS THE TIME OF GREAT TRIBULATION AKA FINAL JUDGMENT THAT BEGINS GRADUALLY WITH THE SECOND OF THE SEVEN SEALS OF REV 6 AND CONTINUES UNTIL THE SEVENTH SEAL

III. THE TIME LINE THAT REVEALS THE RETURN OF THE EVOLUTIONARY LEVEL ABOVE HUMAN KINGDOM OF PHYSICAL BEINGS (GODS) FROM THE LITERAL HEAVENS (THEIR ENVIRONMENTS IN DEEP OUTER SPACE)

A. THE PREPARATIONS AS DEPICTED IN REVELATIONS CHAPTERS 1 TO 5

1. REVELATION 4: THE BRIEFING ON BOARD THE SPACECRAFT BEFORE THEY ARE TO STAND IN NEW HUMAN VEHICLES ON EARTH
2. REVELATIONS 5: THE BOOK CONTAINS THE NEW INFORMATION TASKED TO BE DELIVERED TO THE HUMAN KINGDOM WHICH INCLUDES REMOVING THE SEALS PUT UPON IT THAT THE PROPHET DANIEL AND JOHN WERE TO MAINTAIN IN THEIR RECORDING TASK OF THE PROPHECY OF THE END TIMES

B. PREPARATIONS FOR THE SEVEN ANGELS WITH TRUMPET SOUNDING – REV 8
1. TECUMSEH PROPHECY FULFILLMENT OF GREAT COMET OF 1811-12 AND NEW MADRID AREA EARTHQUAKES
2. CENSER IS CAST TO EARTH; 1897 AURORA (DAWN/MORNING STAR), TEXAS (CAPTAIN’S DECK) UFO CRASH WITH ONE OTHERWORLDLY OCCUPANT NEWS EVENT

3. LIGHTNING (COMETS) (Mat 24:27 and Luk 17:24), THUNDER/ROARS (HURRICANE’S/STORMS), VOICES (MEDIA) AND SHAKING (EARTHQUAKES)

C. THE SEVEN ANGEL’S TRUMPET SOUNDINGS IN REV 8-11

1. FIRST TRUMPET – 1900’s – 1910’s – REV 8:7 EVENTS THAT FOLLOW IMMEDIATELY AS PREPARATION LEADING UP TO THE FIRST AND LAST “WINEPRESS” FRUIT HARVEST WAVES & FINAL JUDGMENT HOUR SHOWN IN REV 16:2 CALAMITIES AND TRIBULATION (TRIAL BY FIRE (HEAT IN ALL WAYS))

a. THE THIRD PART, GEOGRAPHIC AREA FOR THE RETURN AND THE RETURN OF THE HUMAN “LEAVES” (GENETIC RETURN) AND SOULS/SPIRITS FOR THE THIRD TRIMESTER TIME OF GRADUATION AND JUDGMENT

2. SECOND TRUMPET – 1910’S – 1920’S – INCLUDES EVENTS IN FIRST HARVEST PERIOD THAT ARE MANIFEST DURING THE LAST HARVEST PERIOD SHOWN IN REV 16:3
3. THIRD TRUMPET – 1920’S – 1930’S – INCLUDES EVENTS IN FIRST HARVEST PERIOD THAT ARE MANIFEST DURING THE LAST HARVEST PERIOD SHOWN IN REV 16:4
4. FOURTH TRUMPET – 1930’S – 1940’S – INCLUDES EVENTS IN FIRST HARVEST PERIOD THAT ARE MANIFEST DURING THE LAST HARVEST PERIOD SHOWN IN REV 16:8

a. ZIONISTS IN GERMANY REPORTEDLY MAKE A DEAL WITH A DEFEATED GREAT BRITAIN TO GET THE U.S. TO ENTER AND WIN THE WAR AGAINST GERMANY ET AL, IN EXCHANGE FOR PALESTINE WHICH SETS UP THE CRITERIA FOR WORLD WAR II AND THE JEWISH HOLOCAUST AND THE CREATION OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL

5. FIFTH TRUMPET/FIRST WOE – 1940’S – 1960’S – THE ARRIVAL OF SOME OF THE RETURNING STUDENT BODY (SAINTS) VIA INTENTIONAL CRASHING OF PRIMITIVE MODEL NEXT LEVEL SPACECRAFT (UFOS) AND THE OPENING OF THE “BOTTOMLESS PIT” – THE INNER EARTH JAIL CELL FOR THE LUCIFERIAN FALLEN ANGEL SPACE ALIEN HUMAN EQUIVALENTS THAT SIGNIFICANTLY STARTS THE UFO PHENOMENA IN THE U.S. – INCLUDES EVENTS IN FIRST HARVEST PERIOD THAT ARE MANIFEST DURING THE LAST HARVEST PERIOD SHOWN IN REV 16:10

6. SIXTH TRUMPET/SECOND WOE – 1960’S – 2000’S – THE ONE WHO WAS INCARNATE IN THE NAME “JESUS” ARRIVAL AS THE FINAL PREPARATION PERIOD FOR HE AND THE ONE WHO IS HIS OLDER MEMBER, THE FATHER, FOR THEIR INCARNATION (TAKING OVER OF PREPARED HUMAN VEHICLES) FOR THEIR TASK IN THE FULFILLMENT OF THE TWO WITNESSES PROPHECY PERIOD, TO GATHER THE RETURNING STUDENT SOULS TO HELP THEM INCARNATE INTO THEIR PREPARED VEHICLES TO FINISH THEIR OVERCOMING OF THE HUMAN KINGDOM CONDITION TO GRADUATE INTO ADULT MEMBERSHIP IN THE NEXT LEVEL – INCLUDES EVENTS IN FIRST HARVEST PERIOD THAT ARE MANIFEST DURING THE LAST HARVEST PERIOD

a. THE ACTUAL ARRIVAL OF THE OLDER MEMBER SOUL OF THE ONE WHO WAS LAST INCARNATE AS JESUS

D. THE REV 11 TWO WITNESSES- TI and DO’S 1260 DAYS OF PROPHECY AS BO AND PEEP TO GATHER THEIR LOST SHEEP, THEIR BEING SUBDUED BY THE BEAST, THE 3+ YEAR WILDERNESS “OVERCOMING CLASSROOM,” THE EXIT OF TI BY THE EARTH SWALLOWING HER VEHICLE UP, DO’S RISE AGAIN TO RETURN AS “JESUS” TO THE WILLFUL LAYING DOWN OF THEIR HUMAN LIVES AND RETURN TO THEIR HEAVENLY ABODE WITH THE TIMING OF THE 2ND WOE AS THE HALE BOPP COMET

1. REV 11:1-2 – PREPARATION FOR THEIR PROPHECY PERIOD – MEASUREMENTS, DEFINING THE “HOLY CITY” AND WHO IN THAT CITY “TREAD UNDER FOOT”
2. REV 11:3 – THE TASK OF WITNESSES – THEIR PROPHECY PERIOD AND MEANING OF THEIR BEING CLOTHED IN “SACKCLOTH”
3. REV 11:4-6 – WHO THEY ARE, DESCRIBED AS OLIVE TREES AND CANDLE STICKS AKA LAMPSTANDS, BOTH ARE ANOINTED (CHRISTS), FATHER AND RETURNED JESUS AND HOW THEY ARE SEEN, BY WHOM AND WHY
4. REV 11:7 – THE TWO WITNESSES ARE SUBDUED (OVERCOME (SHOT DOWN BY THE NATIONAL MEDIA IN 1975)) AND AFTER THE “OVERCOMING CLASSROOM” WOULD “SEPARATE (EXIT INCARNATION) BY DYING THEMSELVES” – THEIR PROPHECY IS DESCRIBED AS THE FIRST OF SEVEN ROARS (THUNDERS) FROM THE LION OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH WHO OPENS THE FIRST OF SEVEN SEALS

a. FIRST ROAR – 1975-76 – BO AND PEEP – HUMAN INDIVIDUAL METAMORPHOSIS – UFO TWO (CULT) – FIRST WAVE OF PUBLIC MEETINGS IN 144 CITIES ACROSS U.S. AND CANADA

b. THE “BEAST” AND THE “BOTTOMLESS PIT” – THE LUCIFERIAN FALLEN ANGEL HUMAN EQUIVALENT SPACE ALIENS THROUGH THEIR OFFSPRING/HYBRIDS, WHO WERE FORCED TO HIDE UNDERGROUND TO SURVIVE THE RECYCLING OF THE PREVIOUS EARTH’S CIVILIZATION TO BE PERMITTED BY THE NEXT LEVEL TO COME OUT OF THEIR UNDERGROUND HIDING PLACES TO BUILD THE HUMAN KINGDOM IN THEIR LIKENESS TO PROVIDE THE TRAINING GROUND FOR THE THIRD TRIMESTER CLASSROOM AND SO BECAME THE LEADING NATION OF THE WORLD AS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

i. REVELATIONS CHAPTER 13 CUES US INTO ADDITIONAL PROPHECIES THAT DESCRIBE THE HISTORY OF “BEASTS” AS FORETOLD BY DANIEL’S PROPHECIES AS KINGS AND/OR KINGDOMS
ii. DANIEL 7 INTERPRETATION BEGINS – THE END TIME FOUR BEASTS (KINGS) – Page 526
iii. DANIEL 8 INTERPRETATION – END TIME BEGINNING FROM THE MEDIA-PERSIAN AND GREEK EMPIRES THAT SPAWN THE LITTLE HORN OF THE AMERICAS TO RICHARD (THE LIONHEARTED) NIXON PRESIDENCY AS THE FIRST BEAST OF DANIEL 7 – Page 531
iv. DAN 7:3 – DAN 7:7 INTERPRETATION – THE FOUR BEASTS (KINGS) AND THE FOURTH AND LAST KINGDOM OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER RELATED TO THE FOURTH SEAL OPENING OF REV 6:8 – ON EARTH THE GREEN (GREEK GOD DEMETER AND ROMAN EQUIVALENT CERES) HORSE, THE PRESIDENT OF THE U.S. TO TAKE POWER IN 2017 IDENTIFIED/NAMED BY THE CHARACTERISTIC OF DEATH (THANATOS) THROUGH GREAT TRIBULATION AND THE “WINEPRESS” AND FOLLOWED/ACCOMPANIED BY HELL (HADES AKA PLUTO – THE RECYCLER) AND HOW IT RELATES TO NASA DISCOVERIES OF LIGHTS ON DWARF PLANET CERES (RELATED TO GREEN HARVEST) AND DWARF PLANET PLUTO’S EARTH LIKE CHARACTERISTICS AND TI and DO’S 1982 MOVIE SCRIPT DEPICTING PLUTO AS A LABORATORY BASE CONTAINING NEXT LEVEL TECHNICIANS CONTAINING AN WORKING MODEL OF EARTH

c. BEAST ASCENDS FROM BOTTOMLESS PIT, WARS AGAINST THEM, SUBDUES (OVERCOME) THEM AND THEY (DO AND CREW) THEN “SEPARATE BY DYING THEMSELVES” (Greek “apokteino auto”)

5. REV 11:8 – “DEAD BODIES” to “RUINED BODIES (REPUTATIONS)” (THE SUBDUING PART) – “STREET” TO “WIDE/BROAD PLAT, TOWN SQUARE” – THE GREAT CITY IS THE WOMAN NAMED AMERICA WITH IT’S PRINCIPAL TWO CAPITALS IN THE WOMAN NAMED LADY LIBERTY REPRESENTING NEW YORK CITY AND IT’S UNITED NATIONS NEW AGE ORDER AND WASHINGTON D.C. (DISTRICT OF (LADY) COLUMBIA). THUS NEW YORK CITY IS THE MYSTERY BABYLON WHILE LOS ANGELES IS THE NEW NON-PHYSICAL (SPIRITUAL) JERUSALEM
6. REV 11:9 – THE “PEOPLE AND KINDREDS AND TONGUES AND NATIONS” THAT SEE THEIR RUINED BODIES – “THREE AND A HALF” – NOT PUTTING THEIR RUINED REPUTATION “GRAVES” AS “MEMORIAL” – KEEPING THEIR MEMORY ALIVE
7. REV 11:10 – HUMANS REJOICE OVER THEIR DEMISE
8. REV 11:11 – THE SECOND “THREE DAYS AND A HALF” PERIOD – SPIRIT OF LIFE ENTERS THEM – THEY RECOVER FROM BEING SUBDUED “STOOD UP ON THEIR FEET” – THEIR SECOND PUBLIC EFFORT – ROARS 2-7 ARE VOICED
9. REV 11:12 – THEIR EXIT BY DYING THEMSELVES – A NON-PHYSICAL (BORN OF SPIRIT/MIND) ASCENSION – SEEN AS THE HEAVENS GATE “SUICIDE” CULT – WHAT DO CALLED THE “CULT OF CULTS” AND THE “CULT OF TRUTH” – WERE NOT PRO SUICIDE BUT SUICIDE TO THEM WOULD HAVE BEEN TO REJECT THEIR OLDER MEMBER (TI’S) DISCLOSURE (VOICE) TO “COME UP HITHER”
10. REV 11:13 – SAME HOUR (40 YEARS) GREAT SHAKING (EARTHQUAKE) (U.S. GOVERNMENT COUP D’ETAT – SUPREME COURT ORDERS WINNER OF G.W. BUSH’S PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION AS THE REV 6:4 RED HORSE OF ENDLESS WAR FROM 9/11 ATTACKS HOPED FOR IN THE STATEMENT BY THE “PROGRESS FOR A NEW AMERICAN CENTURY” (PNAC) WRITTEN IN 1997 WITH SIGNATORIES CHENEY, RUMSFELD, WOLFOWITZ, ETC. CALLING FOR A “REBUILDING OF AMERICA’S DEFENSES” THAT WOULD NEED AN EQUIVALENT OF A PEARL HARBOR ATTACK TO JUSTIFY FIGHTING A TWO FRONT WAR THAT ENDED UP BEING AFGHANISTAN AND IRAQ

a. THE TEN HORNS OF THE BEAST

11. REV 11:15 – SEVENTH ANGELS TRUMPET SOUNDING – DISCLOSURES (VOICES) FROM HEAVEN DESCRIBING THE OWNERSHIP OF THE WORLD AND ALL IT’S SYSTEMS AND OCCUPANTS AND THE TEACHINGS OF THE LORD’S CHRIST AS THE RULES (REIGN) FOREVER. OCTOBER 17, 2008 ON THE WORLD WIDE WEB’S NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC’S CHANNELS SEASON 3, EPISODE TWO ENTITLED, “FINAL REPORT: HEAVEN’S GATE”, THAT BROADCASTS FOR THE FIRST TIME BY A MAINSTREAM POPULAR MEDIA ORGANIZATION, A QUESTION THAT SUGGESTS IN THE BROADCAST THAT “HEAVEN’S GATE” COULD BE WHAT CHRISTIANS REFER TO AS THE “SECOND COMING OF JESUS THE CHRIST” – Page 673
12. REV 11:16-17 – DESCRIPTION OF HOW THE TWENTY FOUR ELDERS LAYED DOWN THEIR LIVES THEMSELVES (FELL ON THEIR FACES IN SERVICE TO GOD – THIS IS NOT “BOWING AND SCRAPING” – THEIR FACES ARE THEIR GIVING UP THEIR HUMAN IDENTITY VIA USE OF THE HUMAN VEHICLES TO “OVERCOME THE WORLD” AS IS REQUIRED FOR MEMBERSHIP IN THE NEXT KINGDOM
13. REV 11:18 JUDGMENT PERIOD BEGINS – AKA GREAT TRIBULATION – AKA TIME OF THE WINEPRESS OF REV 14 AND A SECOND HARVEST TIME BY THOSE WHO CHOOSE TO BELIEVE IN EVERYTHING TI and DO SAID AND DID AND TAKE A STAND FOR THEM ACCEPTING THE RAMIFICATIONS OF HOW IT WILL BE THEIR SEPARATION FROM HUMAN WORLDLINESS IN SO DOING AS THE LUCIFERIAN DRIVEN SPACE ALIENS ARE TRYING TO REAP THE SPOILS OF THE PLANET BEFORE RECYCLING
14. REV 11:19 THE DWELLING (TEMPLE) OF GOD REOPENS IN OUTER SPACE (HEAVENS) SHOWS THE TIME PERIOD WHEN THE NEXT LEVEL TI and DO’S SPACECRAFT WILL BE LITERALLY VISIBLE (SEE THE CITYSCAPE OF LIGHTS ON CERES (SEE REV 6:8 GREEN/HARVEST= DEMETER/CERES)) THAT THE NATIONS OF THE EARTH SEEK TO WAR AGAINST – SPOKEN OF AS THE BATTLE AT ARMAGEDDON WHICH PROMPTS THE BEASTS (US AND EU) AND FALSE PROPHET (ALL THE RELIGIOUS, NEW AGE, SPIRITUALIST PREACHERS, TEACHERS, CONTACTEES AND CHANNELERS, ETC.) TO THEIR END – Page 687

IV. THE OPENING OF THE SEVEN SEALS ON THE BOOK IN REV 5-7
A. FIRST SEAL – “WHITE HORSE” – DO SITTING ON HIS VEHICLE (“HORSE”) – NAMED MARSHALL HERF APPLEWHITE WHOM AS AN OLDER MEMBER FROM THE KINGDOM OF GOD IN THE LITERAL HEAVENS (ALL OF THE SKY TO DEEP OUTER SPACE) TOOK OVER (SITS (TAKES THE POSITION) ON FOR HIS TASK), WHO TAKES THE NAME BO IN 1975 AND FINALLY DO (AS IN DOE A DEER) – BRINGS THE RETURNED (RISE AGAIN) COVENANTED STUDENTS (BOW, FROM RAINBOW, RELATED TO HIS LITER OF NEW BIRTHS INTO HIS NEXT LEVEL KINGDOM) THROUGH THEIR OVERCOMING (CONQUERING) OF THEIR HUMAN VEHICLES TO BECOME THE FIRST FRUIT HARVEST (REV 14) FINALIZED BY THEIR VOLUNTARILY LAYING DOWN THEIR LIVES (FALLING ON THEIR FACES (REV 11)), THE CUTTING DOWN OF THEIR STALK AS JESUS FIRST PRESCRIBED BY BEING THE EXAMPLE OF DOING TO PLEASE HIS HEAVENLY FATHER AS HIS ASSIGNED TASK FOR HIS DISCIPLES
B. SECOND SEAL – RED HORSE (HUMAN) VEHICLE – 43 RD U.S. PRESIDENT, GEORGE W. BUSH 2001-2009 IS “GIVEN POWER” TO WAGE WAR (GREAT SWORD) IN THE U.S. (FOLLOWING THE PLANNED EXIT OF THE INCARNATIONS BY THE TWO WITNESSES OLDER MEMBERS TI and DO AND THEIR 4 LIVING BEINGS AND 24 ELDERS AND OTHER GRADUATE (FIRST FRUITS)) VIA THE 9-11-2001 NEW YORK CITY WORLD TRADE CENTER AND WASHINGTON D.C. PENTAGON ATTACKS THAT “WOUNDED THE BEAST” PROVIDING THE IMPETUS TO START THE ENDLESS GLOBAL WAR ON TERROR
C. THIRD SEAL – BLACK/(BLUE) HORSE (HUMAN VEHICLE) – 44TH U.S. PRESIDENT, BARACK OBAMA – 2009-2017 – HAS A “PAIR OF BALANCES (BURDEN/YOLK TO JOIN TWO OXEN (BEASTS-U.S. AND E.U.) IN THE ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT (NEW WORLD ORDER) PRESIDING OVER WHAT BECAME KNOWN AS “THE GLOBAL FINANCIAL CRISIS”

1. THERE ARE TWO FALLS OF THE UNITED STATES (THE NEW BABYLONIAN EMPIRE) FOCUSED ON NEW YORK CITY; 1) THE ENDLESS GLOBAL WAR ON TERROR AND 2) THE GLOBAL FINANCIAL CRISIS WAR ON THE MIDDLE AND LOWER CLASSES. BOTH REPRESENT A LOSS OF ANY REMAINING DEMOCRATIC PROCESSES, THE PATRIOT ACT’S, A BIGGER SURVEILLANCE STATE, AN OVERLORD HOMELAND SECURITY DEPARTMENT OVER ALL OTHER “INTELLIGENCE” AGENCIES, MAKING CORPORATIONS EQUAL TO PEOPLE SO UNLIMITED FUNDS CAN EVEN MORE OPENLY BUY ELECTIONS AND EVEN TECHNICALLY ENABLING A CORPORATION TO RUN FOR PUBLIC OFFICE – Page 718
2. REV 13:7-11 WAR AMID/AMONG/WITH THE REMAINING (REMNANT) SAINTS

D. FOURTH SEAL – GREEN/PALE (DEMETER/CERES HARVEST GODDESS) HORSE (HUMAN – WHOSE NAME/REPRESENTATION IS DEATH (THANATOS) AND HELL (HADES/PLUTO – PERSON, CONDITION AND/OR PRISON LOCATION, NOT SEEN) FOLLOWS WITH/AFTER/BEHIND HER. THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE FOURTH QUARTER IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD’S PROCESS TO BRING SOULS TO THEIR VOLUNTARY HARVEST THROUGH ENGAGING THE OVERCOMING (CHRISTING) OF THEIR HUMAN EVOLUTIONARY CONDITION AND TO OTHERS THEIR DEATH AND SUBSEQUENT SECOND DEATH

1. REV 13:11-18 – THE SECOND BEAST – DANIEL 7’s “LITTLE HORN” HAS TWO INSTRUMENTS WHO ARE FALSE CHRISTS AND FALSE PROPHETS IN REPRESENTATION OF THE LUCIFERIAN MISINFORMATION MIND AS SEEN AS 1) NEW AGE SPIRITUALISTS AND SPACE ALIEN CONTACTEES, CHANNELERS OR CLAIMANTS OF CHRIST AND/OR MAITREYA ENLIGHTENMENT, CHRIST CONSCIOUSNESS, UNIVERSAL MIND, ONENESS REPRESENTATIVES, ASCENDED MASTERS AND THEIR DISCIPLES WITH THE DAHLI LAMA FIGUREHEAD AND 2) THE HOLY SEE STATE AS LED BY THE MOST ECUMENICAL FIGUREHEAD POPE FRANCIS AND HIS VATICAN CITY STATE AND BANK ENCLAVE OF CARDINALS AND WORLDWIDE ORGANIZATION OF WHAT HAVE BECOME ALONG WITH THEIR OFFSHOOT SECTS FALSE CHRISTIANS
2. DANIEL 9 – THE SEVENTY WEEKS/YEARS (SEALS/AFFIRMATION PERIODS) AND THE SIX/SIXTH NEXT LEVEL ARRIVAL PERIODS/TIMES, THE JUDGMENT HOUR AND START OF THE TIME OF THE “ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION (WASTE)” JESUS REFERENCED TO ALERT PEOPLE TO

E. FIFTH SEAL – SHOWS THE START OF THE “LAST” HARVEST WAVE AND HOW SOME ARE SLAIN (NOT BY THEIR OWN HAND AS WAS THE EXIT METHOD FOR THE 38 + 4 OF TI and DO’S CREW IN 1997, BUT AFTER THAT) BECAUSE OF THEIR “SPEAKING” ABOUT THE TRUTH PROVIDED BY TI and DO AND/OR BECAUSE OF THEIR WITNESS TESTIMONY THEY RECEIVED FROM BEING IN TI and DO’S CLASSROOM. SHOWS HOW THEY SHALL RECEIVE “WHITE ROBES” – NEW PHYSICAL NEXT LEVEL STUDENT VEHICLES AFTER OTHERS IN THE SAME SERVICE TO TI and DO EXIT THEIR HUMAN VEHICLES. THESE HAVE ALL BEGUN OR CONTINUED THEIR METAMORPHOSIS BY ADOPTING TI and DO’S BEHAVIORS AND WAYS (WASHING THEIR ROBES – HUMAN VEHICLES) TO THEIR BEST CAPACITY – LOOKING TO THEM TO HELP THEM SEPARATE FROM THEIR HUMAN KINGDOM ROOTS AND “STANDING” FOR THEM AND MAINTAINING THAT STAND UNTIL THEIR EXIT OF THEIR VEHICLE, HOWEVER THAT TAKES PLACE, BECAUSE OF THEIR TAKING THAT STAND

1. VOLUNTARY CASTRATION IN DO’S CLASSROOM (FOR STUDENTS WITH MALE VEHICLES) – JESUS REFERRED TO AS “MAKING ONESELF A EUNUCH FOR THE KINGDOM OF HEAVENS SAKE” – TEACHING TO THE FUTURE “THIRD TRIMESTER” CLASSROOM, REFRAIN FROM HUMAN PROCREATION AND MARRIAGE (COMMITMENT TO OTHER HUMANS), TO GIVE ONES ALL TO THE KINGDOM OF GOD THROUGH THE MOST CURRENT INCARNATE OLDER MEMBER FROM THE NEXT LEVEL – WHO SERVED AS THE LAMB (JESUS SERVING AS THE CHRISTING EXAMPLE OF OVERCOMING THE HUMAN KINGDOM (WORLD) TO INCLUDE LAYING DOWN ONE’S OWN CURRENT HUMAN VEHICLE’S LIFE FOR ONES “MARRIAGE” TO THEIR RECOGNIZED OLDER MEMBER) WHICH INCLUDES BECOMING NON-SEXUAL TO “RECOVER ONE’S VIRGINITY” (DOESN’T MEAN NEVER WAS MARRIED OR HAD SEXUAL INTERCOURSE, A LUCIFERIAN DISTORTION) – RELATED TO THE EARLY FIRST TRIMESTER LESSON STEP OF CIRCUMCISION THAT JESUS UPDATED IN HIS SECOND TRIMESTER CLASSROOM

F. SIXTH SEAL- AN ESPECIALLY LARGE SHAKING (EARTHQUAKE) AND OTHER CALAMITIES OCCUR ON AND TO THE U.S. MAINLAND TO SIGNAL THE END OF THE “LAST” “JUDGMENT” TIME OF “TRIBULATION” HARVEST WAVE AND BEGINNING OF THAT “GREAT DAY OF WRATH” AKA THE “WINEPRESS” END OF DAYS THAT CAUSES THE HUMANS WHO HAVE BOUGHT SPACE IN CONSTRUCTED UNDERGROUND DWELLINGS TO FLEE THE SURFACE CORRECTLY ANTICIPATING MORE CALAMITY (PLAGUES) MANY WILL ATTRIBUTE TO THE SO CALLED BAD SPACE ALIENS, OF WHICH TI and DO AND CREW WOULD BE CONSIDERED BY THEM TO BE A PART. A SEALING OF THE “144 THOUSAND (TRIBE/FAMILY)” TAKES PLACE BEFORE THE 7 ANGELS POUR OUT THEIR VIALS – ESCALATING THE “WRATH OF GOD” MANY ARE FURTHER TESTED TO STAND THROUGH

1. DAY OF WRATH IS SHOWN AS THE DOUBLE REWARD FOR THE U.S. BEAST DESCRIBED IN REV 17-18 THAT INCLUDES THE LARGE STONE OBJECT(S) THAT ARE CAST INTO THE SEA IN REV 18:21, WHOSE DAMAGE IS A PART OF WHAT’S DESCRIBED IN FURTHER DETAIL IN REV 16:17-21 – THE SEVENTH ANGEL’S POURING OUT OF THE VIAL THAT SIGNIFIES THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS “DONE” WITH ANY NEW OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE REMAINING EARTH’S OCCUPANTS TO CHANGE THEIR MIND TO SHOW ALLEGIANCE TO THE NEXT LEVEL ABOVE HUMAN
2. THE GATHERING AT ARMAGEDDON – SEEMS TO DEPICT TWO AREAS; THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER IN THE FOURTH PART OF THE WORLD (USA) AND THE EUPHRATES RIVER IN THE THIRD PART OF THE WORLD (MIDDLE EAST) RELATIVE TO THE GATHERING OF THOSE FOR AND AGAINST THE KINGDOM OF GOD STUDENT BODY FOR THE “GREAT DAY OF GOD ALMIGHTY” THAT TAKES PLACE WHEN DESCRIBED IN REV 16:12-16 AND THEN AGAIN AFTER THE 1000 YEARS WHEN THE LUCIFERIAN SPACE ALIENS ARE LOCKED UP UNDERGROUND AGAIN
3. THE FINAL JUDGMENT – THE “WINEPRESS” IS FOR THE HARVEST OF THE RIPE “GRAPES” – THOSE SOULS WHO ARE NOT YET 100% COMMITTED TO SERVICE TO TI and DO OR HAVEN’T HEARD ABOUT THEM BUT WHO ARE SEPARATING FROM THE WORLD IN THEIR OWN WAYS BY NOT GIVING THEIR ALLEGIANCE TO THE “BEAST” – (RECEIVED IT’S MARK ON THE HAND AND/OR ON THE HEAD OR RECEIVED IT’S NUMBER OR NAME OR WORSHIPED IT’S IMAGE (THE BEASTS SPIRITUALITY AND/OR LUCIFERIAN SPACE ALIEN COUNTERFEIT GODS AND/OR HUMAN WORSHIP – EVEN RELATED TO “WONDERS” AND/OR “FIRE FROM THE SKY” LIKE HOLOGRAMS OR LIGHTS, FIREBALLS, LIKE FATIMA AND OTHER EQUIVALENT ILLUSIONS

G. SEVENTH SEAL – Silence from the Kingdom of God/Heaven – THE THOUSAND YEARS THAT THOSE HARVESTED GET TO SERVE WITH TI and DO THROUGHOUT

V. UNDERCOVER “JESUS” SURFACES BEFORE DEPARTURE – DO’S WRITING THAT WAS PUBLISHED TO 90 WORLD WIDE WEB NEWSGROUPS IN 1995 – THE 6TH ROAR/THUNDER. PART OF THE START OF WHAT WOULD BECOME THE LAST HARVEST WAVE

VI. APPENDIX
A. Links to Do and Crews “Anthology of Our Materials” entitled: ‘How and When “Heaven’s Gate” (The Door to the Physical Kingdom Level Above Human) May Be Entered’ (Purple Book)
B. Links to Beyond Human – The Last Call Videos and other Heaven’s Gate Videos
C. Links to TI and DO’s “Classroom” Internal Meeting Audio Tapes (Most of poor technical quality)
D. Links to Sawyer’s Internet Sites
E. Other Links

VII. THE FINISH – SAWYER’S LAST STATEMENT

*** END OF TABLE OF CONTENTS ***

I. INTRODUCTION

I.A. ADDITIONAL STATEMENTS THIS BOOK WILL BRING AN ABUNDANCE OF SCRIPTURAL EVIDENCE TO PROVING

– The Return Jesus spoke about was to be in two WAVES (FIRST and LAST) both being characteristically “as a thief,” but the FIRST undercover, in secret (in a human vehicle) and thus not observable and discerned with one’s eyes. Jesus’ students (disciples), the Souls returning with Him, would recognize His “Holy Mind/Spirit,” as their “Shepherd” by what they have “within” their Souls from their last Trimester’s Classrooms, when the human vehicles, prepped by and for them, hear what He says through his voice (disclosure), literal “words” that begin to be expressed during the 1260 day period described as the Two Witnesses Prophecy (speaking publically). When they recognize Him and literally leave all behind to follow with Him, as He requires to begin to show 100% all their “Heart, Mind, Soul, Strength” allegiance, staying with His program as an Active Student until They all Exit the human vehicles they “borrow,” they would be “Rising Again” (Resurrecting) to receive LIFE – to become a new Adult Member of the Kingdom of Heaven, to receive a Next Level physical vehicle that is non-mammalian and a “position” (seat) of significant service on He and His Older Member’s (“Father’s”) crew. (Luk 17:20-21,Jhn 5:25-29, Rev 11:3 (FIRST))

– For the LAST part of His overall return He would not be incarnate but would still be recognizable only by those He gives that recognition to, so in that sense still “as a thief” while apparent for “every eye to see” among the clouds, appearing with His FIRST “fruit” Graduate Students, who have their new physical Next Level “made” vehicles (bodies) and are all together as an Armada of brilliantly lighted “clouds of light” (spacecrafts, aka in this particular context as “horses”). This is described as taking place after He exits from his incarnation WAVE and at the end of the “Judgment Hour” and “Wrath of God” shown by the Seven Angels pouring out their Vials (calamities, plagues) to include the U.S. and Europe (to include the Middle East) as the two geographical areas, in particular, to receive “two fold” (double) the Next Level’s payment for the sorrow and torment they heaped upon others and for elevating themselves above the Kingdom of God. (Joh 16:12,25-27, Rev 14:14, Rev 16, Rev 18, Rev 19:11)

– The One Jesus referred to as “The Father” or “Our Father in Heaven” comes incarnate with Him to assist Him to start His Task of taking the Throne (by himself incarnate) and then leaves His incarnation in a human woman’s body, seemingly naturally (earth swallows Her vehicle), to better oversee the remainder of the Overcoming Process for each of Their students, from His Spacecraft. The overseeing includes setting up further tests to help some who are not showing the needed readiness to be “born of spirit” (a birth of the Soul Body, that is invisible) to decide to give their all to the Overcoming Process or leave that “classroom” group. (Joh 14:22-23, Rev 11,12).

– The Revelations “Two Witnesses,” are Both identified as “anointed,” the primary keyword related to the term Christ and what is meant by Their being Olive Trees and Candlesticks/Lampstands, all related to the Old Testament Prophets Jesus referenced. We know Jesus was a Christ so we can assume His Father (God) was  Christened (anointed a King) before him, since the Father is who gives birth to the Son. (Rev 3:12 (Father is named and identified by the Son), 11:3-4, Rev 12:1-7, Rev 14:1 (Father has a name), Zec 4:1-14, Dan 12).

A “Christ” is an Older Member from the Kingdom of God/Heaven – Next Level, who has graduated the human evolutionary kingdom through a “Spirit/Mind Soul birth,” as a “Son” to His Older Member (Father) before, even many times, so is qualified to take others through the “Overcoming of Humanness Process.” The Process requires an incarnate Older Member’s step by step direction and can not be accomplished at any other time when the Older Member is not incarnate and holding a “classroom,” though after an Older Member has left their incarnation for a time while their information is still available as they left it, so is accurate, new students can start to engage that Metamorphic Process by adhering to what that most current Older Member taught while incarnate, which will include separating from the human roots that hold them back and changing their behavior and ways as best they can in accordance with what the Older Members taught and by being of service to what the Older Member left for them to do which includes being willing to Stand Up for Them while accepting the consequences that will come from doing so until they exit their vehicles.

After the Older Members have exited their incarnations, the Luciferian Space Aliens step in right away to begin to twist, distort and dilute the truth and realism the Older Members provided, to make Their teachings into a spiritual endeavor to practice and promote the impression one is on the “path” by following. Those most targeted by the Luciferians are those that were students of those Older Members while they were incarnate ,which includes me, which is why it’s important to examine the material for oneself. I am open to such criticism but the ones mounting such criticism will also be targeted to make things up as the intention of the Luciferian Space Aliens is to do anything and everything they can do to distract, distort, dilute and confuse what the Older Members said, did and why. This seems to include getting those who had the personal experience to not express that experience. These attacks have been ongoing and will get worse for everyone that comes in this direction. We each need to seek the help of our Older Members to ward off attacks of this nature and should anything be said that is justifiable evidence of getting off track from what the Older Members intended, we then just need to make appropriate corrections.

However, it’s via these Luciferian tactics that show how religions get started. Some people then become priests, nuns, monks, recluses, Rabbi’s or Imams or have other titles to identify themselves as a devotee, leader or teacher and even with best intentions are actually deluding themselves, though if they keep seeking the Older Members Mind, all experiences can be converted into a positive just like getting into any human endeavor is something to “get out of,” when we see through it. In the case of religious or spiritual paths it can even become a greater lure away from the Next Level’s reality and process because it gives one the “soothing,” but false impression they are holy or have it all figured out and will go to heaven when they die or are working for God when they bring others to believe as they do, which is not the way it works. No one brings someone else to God. The only way someone grows closer to the Next Level Older Members is by their own personal seeking of such a continuous relationship and puts into motion what the most current Older Member provided as instructions. For instance Jesus said to “love your neighbor as yourself” thus until we heard about an Older Member returning, being a humanitarian was about the best anyone could do, though they must be willing to change to what the new incarnate Older Member provides, as that’s the next progression we must leap towards, separating from the human kingdom to become a Member of the Next Kingdom.

Actually, Christing is defined as an anointing from the process of “pressing the oil from the olive.” The “press” is one that requires force exerted and as Jesus say’s includes violence. We are not to enact violence against anyone or ourselves, but because the Luciferians are provided to wage war against Souls who seek to take their next step, that they do so through motivating humans against, violence does become the prime way Souls eventually give their physical vehicles lives Standing Up for the current Older Members. It’s the shell of the Olive that dies but the oil (fruit), as Holy Mind continues to live in all those who draw it and that becomes useful in service to the provision of light that others can be brought to see by engaging the same process . Upon completion, if they have pleased the incarnate Older Member they can qualify to become an adult Member of the Kingdom of God.

– Virtually all examples of the way in which the Kingdom of God communicates with human beings, that can be counted on as from Them, are through Their sent in-the-flesh (incarnate) Representatives. In all the records of Jesus prophecy, in the four gospel accounts and in the Book of Revelations, there are only four End Age/Time descriptions of someone literally “speaking inspired by God,” the primary definition of “to prophesy.” Rev 10:11, Rev 11:3, Rev 14:6, Luk 12:2, Luk 17:30)

– The FIRST and primary delivery of prophecy – speaking words inspired by God  (the Two Witnesses demonstrated) accomplishes the gathering of the returning Elder Student body of Souls who were slated to complete their Overcoming of their Human Kingdom behavior and ways through leaving all behind again to make their eye single in giving all their heart, mind, Soul and strength to these TWO who were acting as One Mind that in so doing would enable each to pass through their “spirit birth canal” to becoming New Adult Members in the Kingdom of God, Kingdom of Heaven. (Mat 19:27-30)

– The Second and LAST of the two descriptions of “speaking words inspired by God,” said as, to prophesy, will be shown to take place AFTER the Two Witnesses and their Elder graduate students have left their incarnate presence, which is during the time of the Seventh Angels Trumpet Sounding, through the delivery of the content of the “Little Book,” as depicted in Revelations chapter 10, where that schedule is announced (sounded). This LAST time period of information delivery also pertains to, and is shown in the timing as, the opening of seals 4=7 that is also described as the Backside of the Book, shown in Revelations chapter 5, referring to the final revealing of The Mystery of God as spoken by the Prophet Daniel. who Jesus referred to as taking place during the time of the Abomination that makes Desolation (waste) that is in progress as we speak. (Rev 10, Luk 20:33-36)

– These FIRST and LAST provisions of the truth that together set the records straight and reveal what has been shrouded in mystery, a Kingdom of God strategy that becomes the criteria for all who hear about it to decide to believe in or not, together with our actions, behaviors and ways, that determines which Souls and Spirits will go on further in their schooling, when they can be brought back at a future time after the current civilization is spaded under and the waste is recycled.

-Luk 13:30 And, behold, there are last which shall be first, and there are first which shall be last.

It seemed to me among the ways Jesus could have meant this, it appears He might have been referring to those who think they are first in line to see him and recognize him and be taken into heaven by him – those who call themselves Christians who so far for many I’ve spoken to, can’t imagine He’s been here in the vehicle named Do (of TI and DO). Nor can most imagine hardly anything I say in these pages is possible. But knowing of this Jesus saying about the FIRST and LAST and other supporting reasons is what made me choose to talk about the Two WAVES as the FIRST and LAST. Currently we are in the LAST Harvest WAVE and this one is geared towards Christians most of all since they as a group seem to have been the recipients of the most Luciferian disinformation attacks, evidenced by their, as a group paying little attention to what Jesus actually taught was required to become a Member of the Kingdom of Heaven. They instead paid most attention to what Paul wrote in his letters. Most of what Paul wrote serves to distort and dilute the truth Jesus bore. Yet the Next Level can use it as a positive separator of those with a “(computer like) chip of recognition” from those without that “chip.”

– Our individual judgment is established for each of us when we die, because it is through our life in the human kingdom, however short or long, that we make our choices and have the capacity to change and grow from or not. For the entire human kingdom on Earth, the Judgment time is finalized when the same Older Member from the Kingdom of God, who was incarnate as Jesus, who will be shown comes incarnate again in the new human body that becomes named Do, as one of the Two Witnesses, returns in his Kingdom of God physical body. That body is described as “like” the body he took with him 2000 years ago returning with his crew of Elder students that graduated (that made them, their Soul body eternal) and were awarded with new physical bodies grown on a vine (not by mammalian reproduction) by the Kingdom of God for their use. (Rev 3:12; Rev 11; 14:14; 19)

– Jesus referred to a “Spirit Birth” as an unseen birth into the Kingdom of Heaven, He compared to the way the wind had physicality, as we could feel it, yet was mostly invisible to our eyes and that it was through conquering/overcoming a “water” (flesh body from the earth waters that is born in a water sack) body that our physical Spirit Body is born, necessitating his disciples to be “born again of water” to accomplish.

Being “born again of water” is also a reference to Souls needing to enter into a flesh body again, but is not the same thing the Eastern Religions call reincarnation, as each body in the human kingdom has it’s own Spirit, synonymous with “Mind” and can become a container to grow a Soul within ONLY IF the Kingdom of God deposits a Soul container into that human body and like a seed through the direct efforts of an incarnate Representative from the Kingdom of God helps the recipient think and do all they are given to “sprout” that “seed” deposit. What I’m calling sprouting has to do with the recipients choice to change their thinking, behavior and ways to their Older Members updated thinking, behavior and ways and by their providing service by delivering the Older Members new truth to humans that helps find other humans with Soul seeds that can stimulate them to recognize and then choose to engage their own separation from their humanness to even become a “tree” that yields further “fruit” as a new Student and/or Adult Member in the Kingdom of God. (Joh 3:3-8)

– The Kingdom of God membership do not propagate as humans (mammals) thus do not have sex and do not marry as humans do, thus the reason those characteristics must be overcome by all prospective members of the Kingdom of God before they can be awarded with a “glorified,” celestial, incorruptible, everlasting physical body. Initial laws provided by the Kingdom of God governing sexuality and marriage were lesson steps to establish order and teach self restraint to work up to disconnecting from entirely. (Mat 19:10-12, Mat 22:30, Rev 14:4)

– Members of the Kingdom of God, even the youngest Member are literally evolutionarily (not Darwinian evolution) “Above” even the greatest humans. (Mat 11:11)

– Upon return He would NOT BE SPEAKING IN STORY FORM (PARABLES) and He would have new things to share that even His disciples didn’t understand when they were physically with Him. (Joh 16:25)

– The return would take place primarily in a new area of the world, apart from the Middle East, to a people (nation) who Jesus’ disciples at the time didn’t know of, that will be shown was to be in the geography of North America with a FIRST and LAST Harvest lesson plan application. Evidence will show how North America was divided into “two straights/streets (paths),” (one meaning of the symbolic “Egypt” in Rev 11:8), with the FIRST as the new “Temple/Altar” Students and area, that is brought manifest in the U.S. Southwest from the Mississippi River to California via the incarnations (Souls taking human vehicles) of TI and DO and their Crew of returning “Saints” to finish their Overcoming of Humanness under the direction of Do. The LAST Harvest lesson plan application was to be held in the areas and for those “remaining” (after the FIRST Harvest) as the “Courtyard” outside that “Temple area” as the other of the Two Streets – paths students must STAND for TI and DO upon as their lesson step towards being in a future FIRST Harvest “classroom” with the incarnate Older Member in a new millennium after the spading/recycling).

– The timing of return would take place after his gospel has been spread to every corner of the world, which he indicated would be accomplished by the time of the End Age, or End Time. (Mat 24:14)

– Members of the Kingdom of God, Kingdom of Heaven are physical, both as Souls and in their use of physical bodies they refer to being “wrapped around their Soul body” thus illustrated as clothing, raiment, robes, fine linen,  that are their “vehicles” they perform tasks through in the denser physical environments. The human vehicle when They come to “borrow” one, said as borrow because they leave them behind when they finish their tasks so that they once again become part of the dust (elements) of the earth they arose from) is spoken of as an “incarnation” (in-carne (latin for flesh)). That’s the context of the Rev 6 usage of “horses,” mammals, but with a Next Level Older Member sitting on the “white horse” while the Red/Ruddy, Black/Blue and Green/Pale horses are sat upon by a Luciferian Space Alien – Fallen angel. Now, in the context of Rev 19, the “horses” are spacecrafts in what I believe is the evidence of Do’s (returned “Jesus’) Armada. (Zec 10:3 – The Lord makes his flock of Judah his “goodly horse in battle,” Jer 8:6 compares a horse to a man, Isa 63:13 with Moses compared to “a horse in the wilderness”).

– Members of the Kingdom of God, Kingdom of Heaven, use physical transportation, to interface with Their physical Creations, that to humans, if seen would be in modern times labeled “Unidentified Flying Objects” (UFO’s), though in the records described as a “cloud of light” or a “swift cloud” or a “whirlwind of fire” or a “chariot of fire” or as a “white horse” or as a “Wheel Within a Wheel,” or Pillar or Column of Cloud that led Moses encampment in the wilderness, lighted up at night and even killed snakes and scorpions in their path, etc.

– Luciferian space aliens – the “fallen angels,” having an aborted Soul Body also seek to use human physical bodies to have function in and around the earth, but also travel in physical spacecrafts humans would call a UFO. These are not Kingdom of God spacecrafts and TI and DO indicated they are primitive in comparison.

– The term “heaven” referred to the literal heavens – being all areas “elevated” above the earth, though where the Members of the Kingdom of God circulate was considered to be the Heaven of Heavens. The Luciferian space aliens really are no longer “space” aliens as they can not travel very far from the earth’s surface – certainly not as far as the Moon, otherwise being “fallen” and restricted to earth, they could interfere with the Signs in the Sun, Moon and Planets and Stars – Jesus said would be as signs from the Kingdom of God.

– Heaven as the environment for the many members of the Kingdom of God to circulate in, Jesus said has within it “many abodes, dwelling places” or “mansions” which are actually spacecrafts that can be as large as a planet like Pluto and/or Ceres and/or the Earth’s moon and/or virtually wherever the Kingdom of God chooses to make a base within, upon or around.

– Today’s “space aliens” are Souls that were lured away from becoming Members of the Kingdom of God during a previous civilization on or off the earth, by those who were led by a former student member of the Kingdom of God named Lucifer who with others rebelled against the Kingdom of God to become known as the “fallen angels.” They take over human and human equivalent vehicles for their use, by directly or indirectly claiming to be the “gods.” They try to grow new human vehicles for their use by stealing DNA, eggs and sperm from humans to grow hybrid humans they can occupy and manipulate to their agenda. The Kingdom of God doesn’t permit them to circulate very far away from earth and they are forced to go underground and under the sea when the Kingdom of God spades the earth’s surface as evidenced by the records of a global flood and said to be occurring again soon, though not with water this time, but via fire, after the Kingdom of God is “done” with the Judgment Hour.

TI and DO indicated in 1975, that during the “Seventh Closeness” (which was after they performed their prophecy and testimony period, they called the “Sixth Closeness,” (with 1st as Adam, 2nd as Enoch, 3rd as Moses, 4th as Elijah and 5th as Jesus, (aligned with the 12 grades in school analogy where Jesus brought the formula to graduate the 12th grade)), would include what Christians refer to as the “second coming” and “rapture” and “completion of the final prophecies in John’s Book of Revelation,” when “the one who was Jesus will come in at close range, to receive the elect into his company.” They said, “those who are in the middle of their normal life span will easily live to see it’s completion,” indicating the timing. (If someone was 35 at what looks like is the official start of the Seventh Closeness – perhaps 2007. they might be 75 by the time it’s “done” around 2047 perhaps). There are a number of ways to work the numbers, but it’s not within my capacity to nail it down more than that and I could be wrong about.

TI and DO were not Bible scholars, yet even then knew the plan for what was to happen during the Seventh Closeness, during the time of the Seventh Trumpet Sounding. Do and Crew (38+4 Membered FIRST Fruit) set in motion the start to this last approach to this Seventh Closeness in 1992, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 – seen in prophecy as the 7 Thunders/Roars – public global scoped announcements of the One who was Jesus’ arrival. Their Song (The TI and DO design of the graduation lesson plan, Ti always called a “piano roll” was brought to it’s crescendo as Their Heaven’s Gate Exit of their incarnations that ushered in the remaining 6 Seals that would be finished by the time of the 7th Seal and 7th Vial being poured out when the younger Souls who showed allegiance to TI and DO while still in their human vehicles are taken into safe keeping.

– The earth is a “garden” in the sense that humans are plants that can become the containers for Souls planted within them, to grow during “seasons” when the Older Member is incarnate, into Members of the Kingdom of God. In that way these Luciferian space aliens are allowed to influence humans to provide misinformation that planted Souls have the capacity, with help they request from the Older Members, to see through. This makes the Luciferian presence into a growth catalyst Student Souls can develop their “mind muscle” by fighting against.

– The content of what is spoken by these Two Witnesses is described as the OPENING OF THE SEAL ON THE BOOK THAT WAS WRITTEN FROM WITHIN BY THE THRONE, where Throne refers to the Two Witnesses that together in their performance of their Witnessing/Testifying task, They Give Their Lives to, become the First of SEVEN THUNDERS (ROARS), though the primary speaking task is through the literal voice of the One of the Two who was noted as the LION OF THE TRIBE OF JUDA, (a reference to the One who was incarnate as Jesus). (Rev 5, 10).

All these points and many more are in my opinion only able to be realized and related to all Jesus taught and his prophecy because of and through everything said and done by TI and DO, who did not base what they said on the Bible, though certainly knew it contained the primary and most accurate records of the Kingdom of God’s ongoing nurturing of their created (designed and developed) human kingdom in their “garden” on their Earth.

I think it safe to say TI and DO didn’t use the Bible to know what to think, say and do. They didn’t try to justify what they thought by what was in the Bible. In other words, they didn’t formulate what they said publically by particular bible verses nor use the Bible to build justification for what they were thinking. They did say the Bible content and especially the Jesus record helped them awaken and was used to provide clues that would verify information they were receiving from their Older Member in the Heavens. It seems clear that Jesus used the Old Testament records in the same kind of way. This book is hopefully providing some of the further revealing of what was intended by the prophecies in the past records.

Nor did TI and DO try to fit what they thought, said and did to the parts that were considered to be  prophecy. I never heard them quote chapter and verse or even quote and recite any one verse except for a few keywords or the paraphrasing of a certain story or saying. There is a considerable amount of evidence that the prophecy record was not their guideline to stick to and at times they seemed to intentionally not align with certain religio-spiritual “correctness” in the “Records” (as they most often referred to the Bible and other associated materials). For example one time Do asked the student body if they wanted to stop a fast that day or the next day that would have been day 40. I recall thinking 40 would be good but didn’t really care, but that was because 40 was the number of days Jesus was reported as fasting before he came public with his ministry. And there were other references to 40 so that was appealing to my still remaining human religio-spiritual correctness. Some of the students at that time said it didn’t matter to them and wanted to do what Do felt to do. We stopped on day 39.

TI and DO said that the Next Level worked very hard to preserve the accuracy of what Jesus said, so we could count on the “red letters” of the four gospels. They said these Records, not limited to the Red Letters or the Bible, as for example they also provided us with publications of the Dead Sea Scroll and Nag Hammadi Library and books about those materials, to include the Essene Jewish sect, said to have stored some of those materials. They said these ancient records were provided by the Next Level to be used as tools for their own gradual awakening and as a help for parts of their student body’s lesson plan, (Ti called a “piano roll”). They developed that lesson plan in steps and said they were only given steps one at a time ahead of the student body, often proceeding on a next step only when the students who were having the most trouble with the previous step either caught up or chose to leave the classroom. Further details are provided throughout this book.

I.B. DISCLAIMERS

In 1975 TI and DO’s group were tagged by the media, among other names, the “UFO Cult” and then twenty two years later the Heaven’s Gate cult. There is no disputing that they were certainly a “subculture” and that they stood apart from all societal norms and resembled in some ways other groups also labeled as “cults.” But over time it has been shown without much doubt, to an objective discerning mind, even by psychologists and social scientists, that when compared point by point to any other groups, they stood apart from all others, in many ways, though one will never know that if they don’t delve into Their story and teachings, behaviors and ways to find out.

Despite the controversy of how they left this world, that I will show in this writing was completely voluntary, as shown in part by many “exit video tapes” (by those in the group of 38 members who wanted to make such a video), and by other proofs that show they each had to actually qualify to remain among them, though qualifying was never emphasized as if a ploy to get people to stay. For instance, the day after I met up with the group at the Colorado National Monument, in my first more personal meeting with Do, along with two other new students, he said to us something to the affect of it being unlikely we would all see the metamorphic “process” through to completion and graduation because of how difficult it would be. I recall not understanding what would be so difficult and yet Do’s saying that didn’t cause me to take it as a challenge either. I thought it strange but looking back Do obviously knew a ton about the process that I didn’t. Now, having flunked out of that initial program the difficulty is very, very clear and coming clearer yet as time marches on. It was my choice to drop out entirely as it was to re-apply though had they not helped me re-apply I would never have even come this far and I’m not claiming to have anything in the bag as I need to have even harder tests since I flunked the first time.

Their exit of their physical bodies was mostly accomplished by ingesting a strong barbiturate mixed into applesauce or pudding and chased with some vodka designed to put their bodies to sleep gently and permanently and as insurance to not wake up or slip into a coma they put a plastic bag over their own heads. Thus the death of the vehicle was to be as gently self administered as was possible. There is nothing to suggest that kind of action would be appropriate for anyone to do now but nor am I in the position to say what’s not. Do and his class of students posted their opposition to suicide though their interpretation of suicide was not the typical one, though there is significant evidence that it was the way Jesus thought about it, then called “laying down you life” for one’s “Father” as he said his disciples must do to reap the reward of receiving a new physical body and eternal Life in his kingdom in the literal heavens, stationed upon one of their “mansions” (dwelling places) spacecraft/Labs. The evidence is that these students were not ordinary humans but had Souls who had been with Jesus during his ministry and accomplished all their lessons at that time so were given their next trimester’s lessons towards their Spirit Birth by coming back and taking a new human body to overcome through TI and DO’s hands on direction.

I.B.1. DO AND CREW POST, “OUR POSITION AGAINST SUICIDE”

(I am putting their statement in my own words to avoid problems from those who hold the copyright to the material who are former students of TI and DO and were given the logistical part of the task to maintain the web site, as they have done, but who repeatedly demonstrate changing what TI and DO taught when they give interviews to bloggers, etc.. I have challenged them on each of their given public interviews I became aware of, to be found on my blog via links in the Appendix of this book. Therefore I’m playing it safe in case my saying this angers their influences into trying to stop the distribution of this material. I hope not, but in any case the original can be found at:

Our Position Against Suicide
https://sawyerhg.wordpress.com/2016/11/23/our-position-against-suicide-by-do-and-crew-posted-on-heavensgate-com/

Because some would read one document Do wrote and can easily misunderstand the context of the many things Do said about who could be saved from the recycling, I put this composite together. Overall, the Kingdom of God is open to everyone who reaches up to their Father in Heaven to give their will to, to help them separate from their human attachments and addictions, behaviors and ways – all the ways of the world.

Suicide is NOT a solution – All Souls Have A Chance To Choose Their Allegiance to God or Mammon
https://sawyerhg.wordpress.com/2014/08/02/ti-and-dos-teachings-provide-opportunity-for-all-souls-to-choose-degrees-of-allegiance-to-the-kingdom-of-god/

Here is my paraphrased report of the document, “Our Position Against Suicide”:

TI and DO indicated that to learn the needed lessons we each need a physical vehicle (body). It is also the way we provide service while incarnate in the human kingdom – we need a vehicle to do so. They indicate they keep them out of harms way and care for them well, so they can function the best they can for their task.

They went on to express when this was written in 1996, after they had been considering their exact method of exiting their vehicles since before I left, as early as August of 1994, how they would prefer and even anticipate entering a spacecraft with their bodies but were aware of several ways it could happen.

Before exit, some could lose their physical body which would be like a “recall,” even from an accident or because of an irate person. They knew that it was possible they could be jailed for some reason or be subject to some form of mental or physical torture, they compared to Ruby Ridge and Waco.

Its the Next Level way to look at all the possibilities to prepare for whatever happens. They used the example of Masada around 73 A.D., and talked about how they would exit in that situation rather than experience an animalistic murdering military assault.

Truly, the truest meaning of suicide is turning against the Level Above Human when leaving is offered. They felt they were focused on two tasks. First to make a last attempt to tell the truth about how to graduate into the Next Level so some humans could avoid “suicide” by remaining for the recycling of the civilization and of the spirits and souls who went against the Next Level or ignored Them. The second task they had was to take advantage of each day to work on overcoming and changing to be ready to become a member of the Kingdom of Heaven.

I.B.2. THERE IS NO CULT OR LEADERS AS TI and DO ARE NO LONGER IN HUMAN FLESH BODIES and in my opinion there is no need or desire among the few former members that still believe in TI and DO, of which I am one, to try to start one, even though several new believers have requested such. Among the former members there is no leader and we are hardly in contact with one another and each is living their lives in a somewhat normal fashion. I go by the name of Sawyer, a name Do gave me early on as I was the woodcutter for the Bedouin (no one place to lay our heads) styled commune we had that for several years existed outdoors in tents largely in the National Forests and private ranch lands we leased in Wyoming and Texas. My maintenance of several social media accounts is the only way I know of new believers as I don’t actively look for any, nor concern myself with how much they do or don’t believe and don’t keep a list of those who tell me they believe. I simply try to answer questions and post commentary and recollections from my experiences with TI and DO.

There are all sorts of charlatans on the Internet posing as the return of Do or claiming Do has returned and I suspect that will only grow. I am certain Do is not returning incarnate during this current civilization.

I.B.3. MY MOTIVATION FOR WRITING THIS BOOK

I could have made money long ago with my story if I had titled a book, “How I got out of the cult of cults” even though I suspect one reason no former members have written such a book that I’m aware of was because it was easy to get out. In fact many were made to leave, sometimes permanently and sometimes temporarily so they could see if they really wanted to be in TI and DO’s classroom. I wrote this book because I believe in TI and DO and want to be in their service (which is still possible just as it has been possible to serve Jesus after he exited) and this is the service at this point I believe they have offered me even though I didn’t leave to do this. I failed to make the grade but have another chance. They don’t throw us away if we don’t want to be thrown away. Should I succeed in “Standing for TI and DO” and re-starting my metamorphic changeover, by adopting all their behaviors and ways, I have no idea whether when I drop this vehicle however it happens if I will be in TI and DO’s company or will be “put on ice” (so to speak) to be prepared for a future classroom to finish my overcoming when I can be with my Older Member for the entire program.

Nor do I claim that everything I have said in this book would meet with TI and DO’s approval. I think it’s likely that there are many areas they would have had me leave out or qualify that I could be wrong about or re-write, but  I do think I am mostly in the ballpark of what TI and DO would have me do. I have received many corrective hints as I went. I do believe there are some of my classmates assigned to help me stay on track enough to not compromise what this may be able to do for others coming in this TI and DO direction.

I’m not saying what I am saying here is needed by anyone but it has always been the way of TI and DO to be very thorough in providing all the helps they can for each of the Souls they brought back to have this opportunity to see the truth and take over a human vehicle to engage their own metamorphosis and service Standing up for TI and DO, asking them for help all along the way and giving their all to result in their “Mind/Spirit birth” graduation when TI and DO determine each of us qualify.

I.B.4. TI and DO WERE NOT INTERESTED IN ATTRACTING FOLLOWERS – They were willing to accept anyone as a student but were choosy about who they thought could accomplish the task of overcoming the human condition. Public meetings were only held over two approximate nine month periods with about seventeen years of cloistered Overcoming “Classroom” in between, during which many gradually learned it wasn’t what they wanted so freely left the group and in many cases when the group had the capacity were given funds or an airline or bus ticket to go where they wanted to go

Even though I witnessed over and over how TI and DO didn’t want anyone to leave, in 1976 they still felt to tell nineteen students they weren’t ready and arranged their separation from the larger body of believers, leaving a little more than seventy of us, who they said “made the first cut.” About ten years later a couple of students were told to leave because they didn’t want to abide by all of the procedures we had, that were geared to help us overcome the human world. At one point in the early 1990’s Do offered a couple thousand dollars to anyone who wanted to leave, saying he didn’t want our most comfortable life style or the fear of having to start over again in the world be a reason to stay. Over the years many left for one reason or another that had to do with things not panning out as they had hoped or because of a desire to have a human relationship or to return to the family they left behind when they joined or just to do something else. About every year or so, TI and DO would require us to go someplace quite around the place we lived in and consciously think about whether there was something else in the world we wanted to do. Then when 20 minutes or so had passed they’d tell us to go back to blocking out such thoughts. Of course there were no monitors on our thoughts so we could always think about whatever we wanted to think about, but that classroom had a way of forcing things to the surface even if they were things that were years in the making. I realized that’s what happened to me.

I.C. BIBLIOGRAPHY AND SCRIPTURE NOTATION

I only directly quote two data sources that are both in the public domain:

– The King James Bible
– The King James Bible with Strong’s Dictionary has been placed under copyright © 2001-2002 by johnhurt.com, and is protected by United States and International Copyright Laws. All Rights Reserved.

NOTATIONS USED INSIDE KING JAMES SCRIPTURE QUOTES

– Single parentheses ( … ) inside of scriptures indicate words added by the original King James translators. Sometimes they are completely fabricated to allow for a grammatically flowing sentence, while at other times precedes the primary word but is necessary to formally translate it because often one Hebrew or Greek word requires multiple English words. Still other times words are added to fill a particular interpretation of the intended meaning.

– Two double parentheses (( … )) indicate additional and/or alternate translation options whether from Greek or Hebrew. Most times within these includes the Greek/Hebrew dictionary number at times with a G for Greek and an H for Hebrew which is listed ahead of the words translation followed by the Greek or Hebrew word, then an equal sign (=) and the additional keywords/phrases from that dictionary with this authors primary candidates at times put in UPPER CASE.

– Square brackets […] within double parentheses, (( […text…] )) contain my opinion of additions to the definition and/or interpretation.

– One or more asterisks (*) or an asterisk followed by a number are used for local footnotes that follow shortly after their usage as opposed to at the end of a page or section.

STRONGS GREEK/HEBREW DICTIONARY NOTATION:

+ (addition) denotes a rendering in the Authorized Version of one or more Greek words in connection with the one under consideration.

X (multiplication) denotes a rendering in the Authorized Version that results from an idiom peculiar to the Greek.

( ) (parenthesis), in the renderings from the Authorized Version, denotes a word or syllable sometimes given in connection with the principle word to which it is annexed.

I.D. INTRODUCTION TO TI and DO

I.D.1. THE NAMES AND TEMPORARY ORGANIZATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH TI and DO

From TI and DO’s official start on January 1, 1973, when they left Houston, Texas and their former family, friends, careers, possessions and human lifestyles behind, they went by a variety of names to include, “Guinea and Pig,” “He (Do) and She (Ti)” and others until their first meetings were held in April of 1975 in the North Hollywood part of Los Angeles, California in the United States of America where they attracted a couple dozen who wanted to follow them and because of those new students, whom they initially didn’t welcome the idea of, chose the names Bo (Do) and Peep (Ti) (from the nursery rhyme of shepherds of sheep). Throughout the remainder of this Book I will refer to them as TI and DO, though they didn’t select those names  until around 1977.

In 1975 TI and DO considered their mission identity as, “Human Individual Metamorphosis” (HIM), because humans were like caterpillars in that they had the capacity to change into a literal new creature inside, that once “born” would have new capabilities analogous to a Butterfly. When their public meeting efforts hit the national media in October of 1975, because students had designed a meeting announcement poster that was headlined with, “UFO’s…,” (which they didn’t actually approve of because of how that acronym was so populist by then),  they became referred to all over the U.S., (especially), as “The UFO Cult,” or “The UFO Two.” In addition to “Two” referring to both of them, it was also because they had come to realize they were fulfilling the prophecy task of the Two Witnesses of The Book of Revelations, chapter 11, though they didn’t actually state that in their poster, nor their first “Statement One,” nor at the two public meeting I heard them speak at in Waldport, Oregon and at Arapahoe Community College in Denver. They said they didn’t want to focus on that prophecy because before becoming aware of that prophecy, they already knew their Souls had come from the Kingdom of God, what they called The Evolutionary Level Above Human, to perform a task that had to do with bringing “updates to the Bible” and to “fulfill prophecy.” Plus they felt as if it was a lure to say and they personally had always  wanted to run the other way when they would hear of or meet someone who said they were the reincarnation of some well known biblical figure. They also became aware that there were others who had claimed to be the Two Witnesses. Nonetheless, they knew they were to fulfill that prophecy.

In 1977 they changed their names from Bo and Peep to TI and DO, reversing the order of who was who. I have reasons to believe that order was reversed because Do knew well by then that Ti was his Older Member, in religious terms his Heavenly Father and they were performing their task together as a unit. Those particular names were in part stimulated by the movie musical, “The Sound of Music,” they felt was influenced by the Next Level Above Human, (in the Records, the Kingdom of God, Kingdom of Heaven, that they felt provided them a little outline of their mission. The  names related to musical notes, as in the song in the musical entitled, “Do a deer” or as “Do-Re-Mi” that was using the Seven note scale, using the syllables, “Do re me fa so la Ti…Do.” Do told us how the choice of positions 1 and 7 demonstrated how Ti, from the previous octave pushes the emergence of Do in the next octave. I later realized that was reflective of the way the Woman gives birth to her Son – to the Thone seat/task in Revelations chapter 12.

What I didn’t know at the time, because TI and DO never talked about it to their “Classroom” (Student Body), was how their choice of “note” names was directly related to prophecy, that their students, eventually the 144,000 (or 144 and a myriad of thousands) were depicted as “singing… a new song before the Throne,” while referencing how there was the Song of Moses and the Song of the Lamb (Jesus) before then. (Rev 14:1-3, Rev 15:1-3, Rev 5:9)

Do had learned from experience that Ti was his Older Member aka Heavenly Father. Ti never talked that way. It was also Ti who told the student body that we needed to make our commitment to Do because Do was our Older Member (Father). That made Ti the equivalent of our “Grandfather” though we never referred to them in those terms. We either addressed them as Ti, or Do or if referring to them together, TI and DO, or “Links” written as “Lnks” which they preferred because it didn’t emphasize them except in the way they hoped to be Chain Links to their Older Members in the chain of Mind/Spirit to the Chief of Chiefs, the Oldest Member of the Next Level. They also talked about this as their wanting to be “pipes” that were so “clear” none of their Mind would dilute the Holy Mind they received from their Older Member in the Heavens.

Incidentally, it was documented that around the summer solstice of 1024 an Italian priest established what was called the solfege (do, re, mi, fa, so, la, ti, do) as a way to learn musical scales, which might be an example of how a Next Level crew was preparing for the fulfillment of prophecy at the return of the Older Members and student crew to be the name of the “song,” as was previously the “song of Moses” and the “song of Jesus.” Ti’s vehicle was not a musician but she always compared the overcoming lesson plan they were administering to their student body to a “piano roll,” and to be like singing the song, Old McDonald’s Farm, that went:

Old McDonald had a farm E I, E I, OH
and on his farm he had a cow E I, E, I OH
with a Moo Moo here and a Moo Moo there
here a moo there a moo everywhere a moo moo

Old McDonald had a farm E I, E I, OH
and on his farm he had a pig, E I, E, I OH
with a Oink Oink here and a Oink Oink there
here a Oink there a Oink everywhere a Oink Oink

This would continue adding more barn yard animal tones as parts of the overall Song, each of which were actually Lesson Steps being added to the list, not dropping the earlier lesson steps and continuing to practice them in the Overcoming Song. Say for instance a lesson was to only say, “yes, no or I don’t know” while talking to one another, which was an early lesson step. Then lets say the next lesson step was to put “I could be wrong” in front of everything we say that requires a judgment to get us in the habit of losing self, as Jesus also taught as “deny self” and “thy will be done.” Students would continue applying these lesson steps until TI and DO said to stop or gave an update so to change to, which with the “yes, no, I don’t know” lesson step did change so we ceased saying only those responses if more words were needed to perform the task.

In 1987 (after Ti’s exit of her incarnation to be explained later) when Do was examining going public again (by then over ten years since we had held a public meeting), he had us test the waters by briefly starting a project with the name, “Anonymous Sexaholics Celibate Church,” taken from the 12 Step programs geared to those who believed they were sex addicts. In around 1989 as part of the book we published called, “The Transfiguration Diet,” taken in part from the work of Dr. John Christopher’s Mucous-less Diet System, we used the name, “Littlegreen, Inc. Think Tank.” Then around 1990 because of dietary experimentation with raw food diets for health – to get the most out of our vehicles Do said because we didn’t know how long we would be on earth, and because of the need to buy vegetables in bulk for our population that was down to about 30 students, to help offset expenses, we started a company called, “Advanced Life Extension Research Team” (ALERT) and sold off surplus organic vegetables at a San Diego area farmers market.

In 1992 when Do started the project to make video tapes that became the series called, “Beyond Human – The Last Call” that was uploaded for satellite broadcast (before the Internet) to provide a way for people who had a satellite dish, who might see the video, a way to contact us, used the name, “Total Overcomers Anonymous” (TOA) and provided a Post Office box people could write to. Finally in March of 1997, 2 1/2 years after I left them, as the last part of their Seven, international in scope, public offerings of TI and DO’s  information, they became known as “Heaven’s Gate” and in much of the media “The Heavens Gate Cult.” Do and Crew understood and didn’t object to being called a cult, but said they were actually the “Cult of Cults” and the “Cult of Truth,” definitely an ultimate subculture.

It’s interesting to me that I am going through a final edit on this book during the time I have documented as the approaching Revelations 6:7-8 “opening” of the “Fourth Seal” that is depicted as the “Green horse” (in most Bible translations says “pale horse” which there is little evidence behind using that term, even though the human who fulfills that task on behalf of the Luciferian Space Aliens could be described best as “pale” that also relates to their name of “death.”) This all relates directly to the Ceres/Demeter “goddess of the Harvest,” where a goddess is the “bride of God,” which will be described in detail in the pages to come. But my point here is how I recently contracted Lymes disease from a tick bite and chose to treat the disease with the dietary regimen layed out in the “Transfiguration Diet,” the book Do and crew wrote while I was still with in Do’s classroom. The wording of the books author was, “Little Green, Inc.” which is interesting given how TI and DO always talked about how the Next Level Crew would even have fun interjecting little clues to their presence, through seeing to it that certain words became used or even popular. Even the word “Little” reflects on the same word used to describe what I believe is this book as shown in Revelations chapter 10.

I.D.2. TI and DO’S TERMINOLOGY CHANGES AND CONCEPT UPDATES

TI and DO changed a great deal of terminology. Granted some will see these and think, “brainwashing techniques” and they will be exactly right, except it was voluntarily washing of our own brains, (part of the real basis of Baptism – cleaning one’s house under the instructions from the most currently incarnate Older Members) using the techniques and replacements of terms and ideas with those TI and DO gave us. This is actually quite scriptural as Jesus required of his disciples to “deny themselves,” in other words give their life over to the Kingdom of God’s hands 100%, also stated in the Lord’s Prayer talking to “our Father who is in Heaven, saying, THY WILL BE DONE ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN,” though when a Representative from that Kingdom is incarnate then for those feeling called to be with Him/Them, the process is to give Them charge of us – our will. There never has been any evidence that TI and DO did the brainwashing for us. Do even said once that if he could do it for us, he would, but then it wouldn’t work. Brainwashing was illustrated by Jesus as “washing our robes,” “sweeping out our house,” becoming “pure of heart,” “becoming as little children.” Now the religions certainly do plenty of brainwashing but with theirs some teach that Jesus did it for us and even will program people to think you are doing something wrong to try to mimic what he taught and did, as if you were “working” for the reward. That is complete misinformation like in James letters where he says, “faith is dead without works – service, making changes in thinking, and acting (repentance).

TI and DO called their new terminology, “generic” (which I related to the Jesus prophecy that said upon He and His Father’s return He would show us plainly about the Father and would no longer speak in parables). The use of new terms they provided impart a more accurate understanding than what our brains had become inundated with, thus because of that programming the new terms are actually more REAL and thus truthful to what the Kingdom of God/Heaven – Next Level Above Human really requires of it’s prospective new members. That old terminology stemmed from what worked in the past to bring humans thinking closer to reality at that time but the translators who didn’t have first hand experience with Jesus couldn’t help but begin to distort the truth and especially when influenced by the Luciferian Space Alien Souls. They didn’t really stand a chance not to distort much, nonetheless the Next Level helped them keep most quotes of Jesus still accurate. For instance Jesus use of “Father” (Greek Pater from the Hebrew Abba) was less mystical and prone to superstition than the previous name, Jehovah, which meant “I Exist” or “I Am.” Now one could relate to this individual in the way a child relates to their familial parent. So clearer yet is the phrase TI and DO used, “Older Member.”

Terminology is important to our recognition of reality. We all have preconceived judgments when we hear certain terms. Heaven conjures up a relationship to religions and because of how they have become distorted institutions  from what really happened, though founded on reality of what was provided to the human kingdom, turns many people off as they see the way religious think and act as archaic, superstitious and thereby understandably not grounded in as much reality. But this is what new Representatives come in part to do, that is, to upgrade our thinking to something closer to their reality so we can better have a chance to choose what to believe or not. There is nothing wrong with religious terminology until it becomes a limitation to what is most real and to what someone is willing to consider, because it wasn’t stated in the terms they deem were from God, which will be according to what they were taught from the records in history they grew up with. Thus someone will refer to God as the Father or Jehovah or Allah or Vishnu or Buddha, etc. and all could be referring to the same “creators” of our reality but will often fight over whose terminology is better when they all lack the most accurate understanding which the new representatives then come to update.

Thus some of TI and DO’s new terms and updated definitions follow:

– THE EVOLUTIONARY LEVEL ABOVE HUMAN, or Physical Evolutionary Kingdom Level Above Human, also said as The LEVEL ABOVE HUMAN or The NEXT LEVEL which is equivalent to the Kingdom of God or Kingdom of Heaven also said as the Kingdom in the literal heavens.

The NEXT LEVEL in evolution in the stepwise evolutionary process. That’s not Darwinian evolution. Darwin only recognized some of the built in adaptability in the species which later was recognized as genetic and even later was realized can be changed sometimes by a person’s change of behavior and ways and even thinking. TI and DO spoke about the various “kingdom levels” as the Mineral, Plant, Animal, Human and then the Next Level Above Human.

– GOD – A member of the Next Level is a God compared to any human because they have overcome the human kingdom and are now part of the Family that create humans and their environments to give them opportunities to grow towards their own membership in the Next Level. Jesus referred to this when he spoke about how John the Baptist, as among those born of women was the greatest human but that EVERYONE in the Kingdom of God/Heaven was greater than he. Also graduating members are referred to as “kings” who are given tasks that reign or rule over humans. It’s not that these are control freaks, they simply work for the Older Members and therefore administer Their instructions that provide the criteria for who in the human kingdom is “coming up” (as a plant sprouting) and who is not. The membership have immense hearts, so to speak, and will do everything in their power , the powers that the Older Members give them, to help those that ask them for help. When TI and DO were asked if there was “fun” in the Next Level, they said, “yes, but it’s a different kind of fun” and they compared it to a “horse that has fun romping around the field.” It may not look like that much fun to a human but to them it is great fun.

– OLDER MEMBER = a Heavenly Father – because they are literally on a spacecraft in the near or outer literal heavens aka space. Their domain is not limited to a terrestrial domain though they can dwell on or inside a terrestrial body.

Do would be the Older Member to those coming up from the human evolutionary level. Do knew Ti to be his Older Member, the one that birthed him into the Next Level. Ti didn’t tell him that. He learned it from working with Ti as they were awakening to their task and he saw that wherever decisions needed to be made, she summed up the circumstance faster and more accurately without having to experience it. It was the same for information and in other ways, students may not be aware of. He said he gave her a hard time for their initial wake up time together on the road before they eventually came public in 1975. He told the story of how at one point, Ti sat on the curb of the road and said she wasn’t taking another step. Do did most of the talking in public and in meetings with the student body because he was closer to the student’s ways of thinking so could serve them better where Ti would say things with a lot less words that students would often not know what she meant by. She also said from the beginning, “I’m here to get you started and then I’m going back.” Do always silently wondered, “going back to what, your vehicle’s family?,” which didn’t make any sense to him. When she left her physical body in 1985 ahead of him, he knew what she meant even though she didn’t have that method of exit on her mind exactly either. There were just many things Ti knew that she couldn’t explain the details of or how she knew it. She just did and often said what was on her mind. She told me once that I “looked green” and I asked her what she meant and she said, “You just look green to me.” It was years later that I wondered if she could see the degree to which I was jealous of students that had more tasks to do directly with them.

– RECORD = The Bible and all related documents linked to Jesus, (i.e. Dead Sea Scrolls, etc.)

– VEHICLE = A human body – This is referred to in the records as “clothing” or “raiment” or a “robe” as Members of the Next Level WEAR a body. They are actually not that body. They are the pilot of the body they are assigned. TI and DO talked about it as compared to the way a human puts on a diving suit to function underwater or a space suit to function outside the Earth’s environment and the like. In the Next Level, individuals have different “clothing” that relates to their tasks. TI and DO even said that if someone chose to enter the department of transportation they could be given a suit/body to occupy that is actually a living biological spacecraft that can do many things among the simple transport of crew members to their various assignments.

– MIND = SPIRIT = the information, programs, thinking, behaviors and ways. There are two types of mind, human and Next Level. Human mind consists of all things human beings think about and do that don’t show a direct relationship to the Next Level. Human mind is mammalian. For instance, wanting to know the truth about where we as a species and our reality came from is Next Level related as mammals don’t wonder such things unless they are stimulated to think such things. Feeling that you don’t fit in anywhere in this world is a Next Level feeling stimulated by the fact that there is more to life than what can be found in the human kingdom. Believing it is wrong for a human being to kill another human being comes from Next Level instructions and is therefore Next Level thinking. Mammals don’t have that kind of morality. The Next Level and their incarnate representatives are not held to the instructions they give to humans. However, nor do they use or abuse others. They provide a free will environment and when humans make choices, they do use those choices for the benefit of the entire garden like experiment. For instance those that interfere with the progress of those they are working to bring closer to the possibility of being born into Next Level membership, if it serves to do so could be killed before their time, so to speak. After all they designed humans with a limited life span, so at most they are accelerating the end of that life span for those they know have become weeds in their garden. Of course the weeds of the garden will be critical of the gardener’s eradication of them and today the records of Jehovah/Moses “classroom” demonstrate a great deal of this kind of weeding out of the equivalent of tares among the wheat the Next Level plans to bring to harvest. This subject is further confused because of the Luciferian fallen angels and how they influence certain humans to think they are ordained to decide upon life and death of others who don’t meet their criteria and follow their laws and/or their interpretation of the Next Level’s laws, which Jesus came to upgrade that even many Christians cling to, largely ignoring what Jesus came to upgrade.

– NEXT LEVEL MIND = “holy Spirit,” where holy refers to purity by the Next Level’s standards, which relates to not containing any human mammalian mind/spirit. Jesus referred to Next Level Mind as “new wine” and at times as “blood” as it is the lifeblood of every member of the Next Level to share as every member only cares to be a link or pipe that Mind can flow though.

– SOUL (and it’s content of MIND/SPIRIT) Do described as a “pillow case” or pocket or container that is given/gifted to a human being that Jesus referred to when it is first given, as a “seed” in the Parable of the Sower (Mat 13:3-23) and then once it is being grown to a “new bottle,” aka a leather bag or wineskin. (Mat 9:17). Do described a human vehicle as a glass vase whose mind/spirit (memory, “computer” was contained within, as if there was a balloon in the vase. He said, when a Soul pocket/container is given, that vase then has two balloons in it. However, a “Soul” actually has it’s own “brain” or “hard drive” that accumulates only information of the Next Level – mundane as well as theoretical or philosophical) which is why Jesus talked about how it is Spirit/Mind that animates (quickens) the flesh but has no long term profit in it UNLESS one accepts his words (Mind/Spirit) because they are living because they yield life. (Joh 6:63). In other words what comes from the Older Member (Father) as Behaviors and Ways and Instructions, concepts, ideas, etc. are Life providing Spirit/Mind because we can only LIVE (beyond the grave) if we become changed by being filled with his Mind/Spirit – information. Using he words our Older Members give us, not like parrots, though nothing wrong with that when we know it’s from them (as translations can lose a certain amount) helps us bond with that Older Member by following all the provided instructions that when maintained until we exit our vehicles will work towards our eventual graduation (harvest) into membership in the Next Level.

The Soul becomes part of the new creatures new physical. It is not often seen by humans. When a Soul is newly deposited, it is very small and contains only a small amount of data so is a Next Level kind of “fetus.” When it grows it must cause human mind to be aborted. That human mind is in a container right next to the soul container. Do compared the human body to a glass vase and the soul container and human mind container to balloons in that vase. At the start of the overcoming process referred to by TI and DO as a literal metamorphosis, the human balloon is mostly full and the Next Level container is near empty. As we adopt the behavior and ways and instructions, examples, words, concepts provided by the most current Older Member (still pertains to Do even though he has exited his incarnation) the Soul grows larger and the human container smaller. When the soul is ready to be “born” the human balloon being deflated is discarded. At that point that Soul filled with it’s Next Level mind had become a physical body in a new species and it will be rewarded with a new physical outer shell when they physically enter the Next Level. Entering the Next Level takes place by separating from the human vehicle/container that is seen by humans as death and that new Soul body will be helped to rendezvous in the “clouds,” what is actually a mothership for a briefing and journey to the Kingdom of the literal heavens.

Ti always said, referring to Next Level Mind/Spirit and Human mind/spirit, that “oil and water don’t mix” to where the Oil was Next Level Mind and the Water was human mind. It was only years after I left and I began to study scripture that I saw the references to how Jesus talked about his disciples needing to be “born of water” (again) so they could be “born of spirit/mind,” by filling their Soul container with Next Level Mind/information that includes their behaviors and ways which have no human mammalian characteristics.

The PROCESS aka The OVERCOMING PROCESS that TI and DO also described as an “ASTRONAUT TRAINING PROGRAM” to sufficiently get rid of ALL human mind (to the incarnate Older Member’s standards as one’s spirit birth midwife) to include:

1) THINKING ABOUT THE PAST (memories) in terms of relationships, pursuits, hobbies, habits, past times, likes and dislikes

2) BEHAVIORS – sensuality to include; sexuality, anger, ego, consuming food for pleasure verses to live, It’s not that all pleasures are to be overcome. It’s that one must accept ONLY the pleasures provided by the Older Members, that is when One wants to be in their program to graduate the human kingdom. And it’s not that one would not enjoy what they eat, but part of the program is to even learn to enjoy or at least tolerate whatever the Older Member is given to give to the students. The Older Members don’t abuse their students like by making them eat worms and things we see humans do on television. About the worse thing I tried to like was okra and it wasn’t served for very long. I got to where I could tolerate it and not gag from eating it. No one stood over us to make sure we ate stuff. Most of what we did or didn’t do was on the honor system. Our Older Member also does everything they expect us to do. For some students eating any flesh food was against their previous mindset which had to be overcome. But TI and DO worked very hard to insure that what we consumed was well prepared and tasty and generally acceptable, though of course there was always someone who had a problem with certain foods (not like allergic reactions) and for them it was a greater challenge to fight against their programming that disliked something.

3) WAYS (deceit, competitiveness, being overly pleased with self, wanting to be seen as something special, self absorbed, gossipy, so one is deflating that balloon, which has no value to the Next Level unless that same human fills their “Soul” balloon with Next Level mind which is why a Next Level Older Member needs to be physically with those coming through this process to show them how by being their example by their getting rid of their human mind and filling up their vehicle with their Next Level mind, accomplishing the process once again which Jesus completed when he said he had “overcome the world.” (Joh 16:33).

On the Heavensgate.com web site one can still freely download a .zip file that contains two files, one of which is entitled, “The 17 Steps” which came early on in the classroom and then the “Major and Minor Offense List” that show the various standards in TI and DO’s classroom. All the files are also provided on my blog since I have nothing to do with the web site. Links to my blog and specific files are in my Appendix.

– To TAKE OVER or BORROW a human vehicle or even somewhat humorously, because of the related Science Fiction movie, “Body Snatcher” describes the way a Soul who is brought back to have another experience in flesh again, aka coming “in-carnal” – Latin “carne” meaning “flesh,” becomes “Incarnate” when that Soul has brought it’s Next Level Mind into that new prepared vehicle, while the vehicles “Spirit” agrees to cooperate with giving their will to the Older Member. In the Record incarnating is also referred to as to “stand up” which is one of the meanings that was translated to Resurrection, with the “re” part reflective of “again,” so “Stand up Again.” Jesus referred to “fishing” for men and the term Rapture really means to be “caught away” from the world which is what happens when we awaken to our smelling salts and we join literally with the Older Member. Since the Older Members are no longer incarnate ones rapture would be when and if they separate from their human lives. That may not happen right away or to the full degree it needs to eventually, but as long as we are doing the best we can and know the formula and recognize our Older Members we can ask them, using their names to help us.

TI and DO said that reincarnation as it is taught by Eastern Religions is not accurate. Each human vehicle has it’s own Mind/Spirit that develops as the vehicle grows and accepts or rejects various programming from their parents, families and society. That spirit does survive death of the vehicle but can never become the spirit of another body UNLESS it takes over that new body by convincing or overriding the mind of the new body. They said that humans were really time shared computer like systems and that what we really are is only the “decider” in that we can choose which thoughts, behaviors and ways to embrace and make our own or not accept or get rid of throughout life. They called dead humans, “Influences” because that’s what they do when they come around any human. They try to influence them to their thoughts, behaviors and ways they accepted (believed in) while alive as that is the only way they can be. They can not change any longer. They can either help or hinder a human. It depends on what we allow. If we have bad thoughts, like of harming someone, the more we linger on those thoughts the more hold they have on us and the more we can find ourselves acting out those thoughts. TI and DO said, we are not responsible for the thoughts that enter our consciousness but we are responsible for allowing those thoughts to stay with us and become part of our programming that become harder and harder to reverse and get rid of, to where we can even be more prone to act them out even though they once could have been thought abhorrent to act out.

I believe an example of how the current human society have accepted more and more thoughts that before now most would not have permitted to take hold of them, is in the huge increase of frequency of more or less random or spontaneous mass killings, seen mostly among youth.

Psychologists and law enforcement and educators come up with all sorts of reasons to include the way violence against others dominates much of the computer gaming world and is even realized and acted out in the military with drone strikes from a cubicle in Nevada terrorizing and bombing people in Pakistan, Afghanistan and Yemen and wherever the leadership decides. Young humans are being trained to accept these kinds of thoughts of justifications for horrendous crimes, which they are then more prone to act out when they become angry for any reason. They are literally being “possessed” by a mindset and what many don’t understand is that for every mindset there are many, many discarnates that will gravitate to the human being that is willing to act upon it, further influencing them to do so, which used to be called being possessed by an evil spirit. And isn’t it interesting that even in many of the spiritual and religious mindsets, the reality of these “discarnates” and the great influence they have over humans in ALL areas of life, both positive and negative, is largely ignored and disregarded, except in movies and such, so that anyone that suggests spirit possession is seen as a fanatic of some sort.

Of course in the U.S. this spirit/mind possession, no matter how one explains it or what they believe as a root cause will not stop it with gun laws or knife laws or curfews or banning of violent video gaming, though they will try because to some degree it can be happening in many human heads as the mindsets/discarnates that influence us can not be turned off except by each person’s conscious effort to “just say no,” to repeat that popular phrase, but MUST go hand in hand with not justifying any violence or mental and physical abuses against fellow humans, as the Lord commanded. And frankly that’s not going to happen as the great majority of the people who have the most power in this human world are possessed with justifications galore for murder and abuse of others, not knowing that they are literally under the spell of the Luciferian space alien fallen angels and all their billions of discarnate minions who believed what they programmed them to believe while living who are saturating every brain with their justifications and judgments and measure of others. And of course to most even mention of that name Lucifer and/or Space Aliens is laughed at as having no basis in reality, which is exactly the way those “fallen angels” want them to remain, so they can be used to forward their agenda of combating the Next Level and trying to get off this planet where they have been imprisoned for millennium.

Thus a huge part of the Overcoming Process is cleaning out our brain/mind of all our past associations and replacing that mind with the (Above human (holy)) Mind, the thoughts, behaviors and ways from our Older Members. TI and DO said that in this civilization it took three periods of time, they referred to as “trimesters,” resembling the trimesters in a human birth to bring a Soul from it’s first deposit into a human vehicle to harvest after at least two more experiences of that Soul taking over a human vehicle, which is called “overcoming the (human) world. This took place over thousands of human years.

– CLASSROOM = The experiential environment for learning Next Level behaviors and ways that included meetings where lesson material was introduced and then “labs” where lesson material was experienced. The environment was not constructed. It was simply using the same things any human being has to do to survive and thrive to include, eating, sleeping, cleaning, working jobs, maintenance, relaxation, exercise, fun, administrative, medical, etc. As we lived as a commune though at times in different houses in different parts of a city and even for brief periods in different states around the United States, though mostly all west of the Mississippi River, many of these activities were departmentalized and named as Labs, short for laboratory as TI and DO said that’s what the Next Level environments consist of…labs for various task like the Earth’s weather or geographic systems, to name a few. In this way a house became called a “craft” short for spacecraft because wherever Next Level Members work, they are on some type of craft that can be as large as a planet. Some are as follows:

– Nutri Lab = Kitchen, as in Nutrition Lab. Before the group moved into houses we lived in little tent cities on leased ranch lands in Wyoming and Texas. We had two very large tents. One was green and it was used for what humans would call the mess hall. We had gas powered stove tops and an oven inside a little camper. TI and DO had a tiny camper. The remaining 70 or less students lived two to a tent. This is when TI and DO introduced food as “fuel” and the preparation as “experiments” with the recipe written as a formula, so that “MP + BR = body changes,” where MP stood for mashed potatoes and GB for green beans that together as a meal would bring about body changes, changing our (water/womb mammalian based) human mind out for Next Level Above Human Mind/Spirit that filled our Soul pocket which was the body that was changing though we didn’t have these understandings of the differentiations between Mind, Spirit and Soul at that time.

– Yeast Lab – where bread and cinnamon rolls and other bakery goods were made.
– Fiber Lab = laundry.
– Impro Lab = I never did know for sure what this represented but the crew that were assigned tasks cleaned and maintained the fleet of automobiles, did carpentry, grounds keeping and such.

– Luciferian – First off Do said that there is nothing wrong with the name Lucifer or Lucy and that it is a beautiful name that from the Hebrew means . It comes from “light bearer,” or “brilliant star.”

However, a Luciferian is a fallen angel Soul. Any human or human equivalent space alien who took the opportunity offered by the Next Level Older Members to be in a third trimester Next Level classroom with an incarnate Older Member from the Next Level, whether on Earth or on an equivalent “garden,” and subsequently dropped out of believing in, following and serving that Older Member was choosing to disconnect to their Next Level source and thereby become a fallen angel.

Now in the case of this “fallen angel,” named Lucifer, he had advanced to a certain grade in the overall human overcoming school to where he was provided a physical body designed for him by the Next Level and some elementary service in a crew on board spacecrafts, as a “watcher,” that may have had similar characteristics as the vehicle provided that was named Adam (man). I say this in part because of things TI and DO said in the Blackhawk audio tapes that also indicated that the experiment to test Adam as to subject other equivalent student level members of the Next Level to the same influence Lucifer fell because of, which Lucifer embodied in his Soul body. Thus I wondered if Adam’s vehicle was a type of match for the vehicle Lucifer received so the test would be equivalent to what Lucifer chose to fall because of not conquering. TI and DO didn’t get into this to this detail so I could be wrong.

That vehicle named Adam received his Soul seed, when he received the “breath of life through his nostrils” from his Older Member, the seed giver. I believe that was addressing whatever kind of Soul “deposit” was put into Adam’s Next Level vehicle. It wouldn’t be an adult Next Level vehicle as my understanding is that such a vehicle didn’t have the capacity to fall back into human mammalian behavior and ways as Adam did and the “watchers” Enoch listed did. Do said that Adams vehicle went through a type of reverse metamorphosis that didn’t take very long to occur.

-Ti took a vehicle whose name was related to a plant that shoots it’s seed into the air for distribution (Jesus says the seed is sown into one’s heart – Mat 13:19)

Ti chose a human physical vehicle named, Bonnie Lu Nettles. The plant Nettles is a unique variety of plant form that stands apart from other plants in the way it spreads it’s seeds. It shoots it’s seeds out into the air which is why it’s considered to be classified as an “artillery plant” as opposed to most of the plant species that distribute their seeds when the bees transport them or when the wind picks them up or an animal brushes against the flower or they fall to the ground around them. Do knew that Ti was his Older Member and part of the reason Jesus used the term “Father” was both to portray the parenting role they perform for new students but because the male shoots their sperm into the female egg of the human species to fertilize it, so I guess a human is an artillery plant. TI and DO did say that humans were plants, even though one could not see their root system and there are many references in the New and Old Testaments to humans being as “grass” or as “leaves.” TI and DO also referred to humans as “seed bearing plants” and as “perennials” in how the leaf dies but then the same human tree provides new leaves (vehicles) and in that way, there is a method to literally evolve both physically and even more so mentally as all data is saved in the human gnome (brain) of each cell.

Ti once surprised me and probably other students by saying that “The Chief still loves Lucifer” though his actions to choose to turn potential students away from their only chance to evolve out of the human kingdom to be with those that created them is not approved of though it can be turned into a positive. Jesus spoke of this by saying it was necessary for “offenses, stumbling blocks, occasions to fall” to exist but woe to that man that brings those offenses. (Mat 18:7). The Next Level allows Lucifer to continue for a while as he then is presenting the option to even become like him and therefore those that choose to look to the Next Level Older Member’s instructions and help may overcome his influence to strengthen their own Mind which is what is required for graduation into Next Level Membership.

The human civilization is literally run by all those who are known as the Luciferians while tricking humans into not even recognizing their influence or that they exist at all. They are the reason many humans think the Kingdom of God/Heaven is a spiritual realm where members float around among the clouds or have wings. Of course before the Next Level sends their representatives to provide the updates, it’s understood to remain with that understanding however inaccurate. It’s when the truth is provided and we reject it, that we are held responsible for rejecting it. Feeling challenged by the thinking and not feeling like it’s believable is natural to experience. That is far different than absolutely denying the possibility with a willingness to allow it to become a reality in our consciousness. Do said that upon awakening not a day passed that he didn’t wonder about his sanity and both TI and DO said early on that if anyone could prove them wrong about anything they were saying, they wanted them to, so they could change. They also said that if they met someone who knew more than they knew about these matters, they would follow that individual for as long as they kept on learning from them.

– CHRIST – LIGHT – Jesus spoke of how one needed to make their eye single so that their entire body would be filled with light. Filling ones vessel/body containing it’s gifted Soul=”pocket/container” with “light” in it’s primary application is the ‘overcoming/”process” of the human world’.

This process consists of the consumption (eating) of the Older Member’s (holy) Mind (spirit),” broken down to the practical “words/instructions/commandments” from the Older Members that when received (believed)(consumed/eaten) AND applied (acted upon) – given out, as Jesus said, putting one’s LIGHT “on a candlestick showing it’s “good” (utility) “works”(service) yields a “Mind/Spirit birth,” the “metamorphic” transformation of a “caterpillar)” into a “butterfly,” a new creature that has been lifted up (resurrected from it’s previous lifestyle limitations.

Serving the Older Members is the mechanism of that metamorphosis. One who is believing in all that the Older Members say is literally filling their Soul pocket/container with “oil” but to produce “light” that “oil” needs to be utilized, “burned” – exhausted through the provision of the particular service the Next Level Older Members prescribe, otherwise nothing (darkness) comes from one’s exhaustion of their “oil.”

Jesus used the illustration of the “virgins” keeping oil in their lamps as the preparation to have the light (understanding/comprehension to recognize the Bridegroom they seek to wed. He used “virgins” as because those who are not giving their energy (oil) away, via procreative processes to include sexuality are keeping that oil in their lamps and they can literally SEE better because of doing so. This is why Jesus taught that in the regeneration upon his return, his disciples would not be marrying, which also meant they would not be procreating or giving away their energy/oil in sexuality or in any otherwise considered “normal” human passionate expressions. This is for his students (disciples). It doesn’t mean these who become his students, before they become students will not be fully engaged in various human activities. It’s once they commit to being a student that the Older Members will wean them from giving their “oil” away, while channeling it into serving the Next Level program they administer, which is both in overcoming their humanness, to include the desires for human relationships and expressions to even overcoming one’s own ingrained sense of self preservation which is most evident when the students are sent to share the “light” they receive from their Older Members to a largely hostile to that light society. This is all “giving one’s life” to the Older Members and literally results in the loss of one’s human life, even in the physical sense by doing so that is actually a graduation requirement to lose, as Jesus also taught. (Jhn 10:15–18, Jhn 14:12, Mrk 13:20, Jhn 12:25, Rev 14:13)

METAMORPHOSIS FROM CATERPILLAR (HUMAN BEING) TO BUTTERFLY (ABOVE HUMAN BEING)

This is why “Christing” or “christening,” which means “one who is anointed with oil” is likened to the way the caterpillar enters the chrysalis. It is no longer operating in normal caterpillar ways. It’s isolating itself and all it’s energy is spent in it’s metamorphosis into the butterfly and that cocoon that consists of it’s old body is left behind when the butterfly with it’s new and improved body emerges. Thus a “Christ” is anyone who comes through this equivalent metamorphic process BUT one can’t come through such a process on their own and unless it’s led by someone who has completed their own Christing, even many times before, it is not a genuine christening.

And there are stages and one can not bypass a stage and each stage is designed by the Older Member but the process goes like this:

A human hears the words of the Older Members and believes them. They are required by the Older Member to leave all they knew and believed in behind. Those things were not wrong to believe in and occupy themselves with before that but for someone who is drawn to conquer what amounts to their human root system, all those relationships and activities need to be cut off, that is IN THE WAY THE OLDER MEMBERS PRESCRIBE THOSE NEW PROSPECTIVE STUDENTS TO DO SO. Anyone at any time can cut themselves off from their human attachments and that may be to some benefit to their becoming ready to join in an Older Member’s program but without the Older Member’s physical hands on direction their efforts are wasted. And by “hands on” it applies whether the Older Members are still incarnate or not as when Older Members leave, they also leave their record that teaches the stage of the process. Obviously one can not leave the world to be with an Older Member that is no longer incarnate, but they can follow in every one of that Older Member’s footsteps according to what the Older Member prescribed for them upon their exit and that will be the lessons they need at that time. If one is not abiding in the directions of the Older Member then they would not be getting the ingredients they most need that will find them in “good stead” with the Older Members when they do come incarnate again and the students Soul is brought back to have a chance to be in their classroom.

It becomes a facsimile overcoming chrysalis building process even if it’s for a teacher/guru, UNLESS that teacher is sent from the Evolutionary Level Above Human.

SEEKERS CAN BECOME TRAPPED BY SPIRITUAL OR METAPHYSICAL AND/OR RELIGIOUS TEACHERS WHO ARE UNKNOWING PROMOTING A FACSIMILE OF A NEXT LEVEL OVERCOMING OF HUMANNESS PROGRAM.

What often happens to many is that they are among the humans that are responding to the presence of the “light” in the Earth’s immediate atmosphere, before the Older Members have come incarnate. So they join this and that teacher of a metaphysical or spiritual belief and practice, and it yields an uplift to their consciousness because they are focusing the “light” through various techniques that can even include isolation from society and otherwise normal human behaviors and ways in the world as in monasteries and ashrams, etc. But then when the only true Older Members from the Next Level come, which when they come will bring updates to all that had been taught till then, with new terminology and concepts that separates them from all the spiritual/metaphysical teachers teachings (though will have many aspects in common, as that is where those other teachers originally got their ideas/teachings, however then distorted into a “path”). Like TI and DO said, “all paths lead to the top of the mountain but there is only one way off” and that must be provided by someone who is off the mountain.

Each seeker if they remain a seeker will come to hear about the Older Members and when they do will be faced with whether to believe in them or not. This can take place many times through one’s lifetime as the Older Members give all humans many chances to gravitate to them. But what takes place many times is that the seeker, having found a practice or group or teacher they have bonded to, fears the loss of what they have gained that they can feel is threatened by considering what these new teachers are saying so they justify not considering them further. However, generally speaking they have until they die to reconsider, though putting off the choice to believe or not, only makes it harder to change from what’s become comfortable.

– SPACE ALIENS – Are all “fallen angels” – they are human equivalent beings that had their genetic origin either from a different planetary system or from a previous to the current civilization. The Next Level starts and stops civilizations as a matter of course. TI and DO said they didn’t know how many civilizations there have been on Earth but thought there were probably many, yet it didn’t matter except to know that there was at least one before the current one. The Next Level allows some of the humans who lived in a previous civilization, at least on Earth, to physically survive the spading under of their civilization so they can be allowed to come out of their underground hiding places to provide an influence to those humans in their new garden human overcoming experiments. This way a human has the choice to even go against their own creators. However, they see to it that it’s an even playing field and they give each human many opportunities to see the truth of the Next Level’s existence.

I.D.3. PRIMER OF TI and DO’S INITIAL TEACHINGS

Below is “Statement I” – written by Do between September of 1974 and March of 1975 that was mailed out to dozens of religious and spiritual leaders and their groups in March of 1975 that days later stimulated their first invitation to talk to a group. That first talk in Los Angeles resulted in several dozen prospective students, who left all behind to join with TI and DO. This led to becoming a National (and to some degree International) “mystery” of a news story as no one knew where these dozens of people were vanishing to. This was their gathering of their sheep which technically lasted into June of 1976 to end their 1260 days of prophecy that began January 1, 1973. When TI and DO wrote this, though through Do’s hand, they thought students would be picked up by a spacecraft (cloud of light) before their physical death. Even before they exited by laying down their human bodies lives in 1997 they still prepared in such a way in case the Next Level (Kingdom of God/Heaven Older Member (Ti)) wanted to pick them up with their physical bodies and even do a resurrection demonstration.

There were a few ideas in this statement that Ti and then Do later updated. Their awakening was in stages and continued every day. It wasn’t like you see in movies to where they are walking along or in a meditative trance and suddenly get hit by a lightning bolt of awareness as if they took LSD or something to where thereafter they understood everything about everything. That’s an illusion and Jesus didn’t experience that either. The proof of that is this. It was told that when Jesus was twelve years old he spent three days in the temple in Jerusalem amidst doctors listening to them and asking them questions. When his parents who had left Jerusalem realized he wasn’t with them or kinsfolk and acquaintances they went back to find him and told him of their sorrow in not finding him, was documented in:

Luk 2:49 And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father’s business?

If he knew everything why was he listening and asking questions? Then Luke goes on to report:

Luk 2:52 And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.

This was his awakening, actually not any different than any human being that is gradually coming into adulthood and all that brings with it, except he was special in that regard having been specially conceived. It’s only in the last 30 or 40 years that humans have had success with artificial insemination to where one could imagine the Next Level’s ability to bring about the inception of a baby by some alternatives to intercourse. There was certainly a function to Jesus’ special conception however it was accomplished and with what seed. I have wondered if the Next Level kept some of Moses or Elijah’s seed, the same way humans store sperm for just such a purpose. TI and DO thought that Moses physical body was also taken. It just was not something the Next Level wanted to give anyone proof of. After all only Elisha got to experience Elijah’s physical body being taken up. And we don’t know who might have witnessed Enoch’s body being “taken.” But considering the way we know genes change throughout life and how genes contain far more than just eye color in the chromosomes as was first thought but probably contain a full record of everything a human being experiences during life, using seed from one of the last servants from the Kingdom of God/Heaven might make some sense as otherwise there would be generations of experiences that say Joseph’s strain might have had to cloud Jesus remembrances. TI and DO never spoke to this that I was aware of, but that doesn’t mean there can’t be some accuracy to it. But accurate or not, it provides a way of thinking about something in a new way, at least it was new for me so sets us up to “wake up more” to what could have occurred in the past and to what is challenging to conceive of now and in the future as we all can always awaken to know more.

TI and DO always said that they didn’t know everything. They said they only knew what they needed to know to perform their task. They said there were many tasks the Next Level crew performs that they don’t know about though sometimes get glimpses of. They also said they did know where to do to get answers to any question though they also talked about how some questions are not right for them to know answers to at certain times. They would ask questions and not get any response. They said sometimes their Older Member on their spacecraft/lab wasn’t “picking up the phone” when they would ring them. They also said that on some questions they would re-examine what it was they wanted to know and would rephrase it or ask it at a later time but they wouldn’t be pests about asking constantly and we have to provide time to receive the answers in the various ways in which they received answers. They never received answers by a voice in one’s head or in some audible way but did come as thoughts but they didn’t indicate answers coming to them in dreams, though I do recall both TI and DO telling us about some of their dreams that did provide clues. They said all along that dream time is among other things a time when the Next Level can prepare someone for the next day’s lessons but that the lower forces can also use dream time to try to influence us so they didn’t trust dreams 100%. Nor did they trust every thought they had as the lower forces certainly can put thoughts into our heads. They said that is one of the reasons they both came this time, saying that the civilization had become so corrupted with the thoughts of the Luciferian space alien fallen angels that includes billions of discarnates that it was like a dense static that made it that much more difficult to think clearly, even though humans don’t know any better about all that because the discarnates are all invisible and many don’t have a clue as to how that world influences us all constantly.

TI and DO said that humans were all like computer systems that allowed time sharing of their brain/body by whatever thought is sent to us via whatever method – discarnate or otherwise. They said we are only the “decider” as we choose what thoughts and actions to entertain and/or act upon to make our own. A big part of the overcoming process is to discard all thoughts of our past to have a chance to build a new database consisting of only what our Older Members give us. By our choosing which thoughts to entertain we build who we are and we can change who we are when we don’t like what we have become. Examples of his are quitting nasty habits or disconnecting from people that we feel drag us down or into repeating past behaviors we don’t want to continue in.

But regarding Jesus staged awakening, as was reported most of his Next Level mind came into his vehicle when he came out of the water John the Baptist poured over his head or submerged him under. Some actually saw a “bodily image” descend like a dove on him and heard audible words from the sky, apparently from the one who was called the Father saying this was his son whom he was well pleased with. And then finally another example was when he went up the mountain with James, John and Peter and was instructed that it was time to “lay down his life” to exit, even though he knew that was the plan – he didn’t know when and perhaps exactly how to stimulate his exit. He certainly knew that many of the Jewish priests hated him and wanted him dead and gone as they tried to do a number of times.

In the same way TI and DO were fed information and instructions step by step according to the capacity of the student body to receive certain information. TI and DO always said when they brought us a new understanding that “this works for now and we will bring you updates as we get them.” I provide examples throughout this book.

The subject of space aliens was actually one of those examples that they gained clearer understanding of as time went on. For instance at first they thought that every non-human flying object was a Next Level spacecraft. It was only when they read the myriad of reports that were available and saw some of the behaviors of beings on board spacecrafts that Ti became concerned. I recall her saying that when she got back she will find out who was acting that way because that was not permitted. I believe she was referring to sexual activity reported on many of the abduction reports because there is no sex among Next Level members and they have no need to bring humans on a craft to mate them. That’s what they have the human kingdom for. Later she realized that these were not Next Level members. They realized that these were the space aliens that came from those spoken of in the records as the fallen angels.

So with all that said, here is some of what TI and DO had awakened to, to start their gathering of their sheep in Do’s words but coming from both he and Ti’s mind. After all Ti was Do’s Older Member, which he had awakened to know by the time he wrote this Statement:

I.D.3.a. SUMMARY OF TI and DO’S BEGINNING AND THEIR FIRST PUBLIC STATEMENT

Before the Statement, I, Sawyer who was present with Do for 19 years, (10 of which while Ti was incarnate), starting from September of 1975 when I was handed this Statement I at the meeting I attended in Waldport, Oregon where TI and DO spoke that stimulated the global news story of them as the “UFO Two” am an eye witness to all they said to include this first Statement. I wanted to include this document just the way Do wrote it but because of the way Do’s writings have been copyrighted by others who I can not trust would give me permission to include in my book, because of how they have changed things TI and DO taught and because my book is for sale, (as the best way to distribute it most widely), to not infringe on those human laws I’m re-writing this document in my words. I will try very hard to stick to the equivalent words I heard TI and DO say many times. I wish I didn’t have to do this and the original document can be found contained within the greater document Do wrote about He and Ti’s start, that I encourage everyone to read as there is nothing like reading Do’s actual words in:

’88 Update – The UFO Two and Their Crew, By Do
https://sawyerhg.wordpress.com/2010/03/02/88-update-the-ufo-two-and-their-crew/

Summary of The 88 Update logistics that includes Statement I – (1972 to 1988):

TI and DO are the names they last chose to be called. I will use those names though their physical human vehicles were born as Bonnie Lu Nettles (Ti) and Marshall Herf Applewhite (Do). They were each leading contented lives in Texas. Ti was working in the nursery of a Houston Hospital as a registered nurse and had a little amateur astrology practice on the side and had a husband and 4 children. Do had divorced and had several children but was not living with them anymore and was a professor in the University of St. Thomas teaching singing and music, while was also singing lead roles in the Houston Opera. They met when Do was visiting a sick friend in the hospital where Ti just so happened to be subbing for another nurse and their first conversation surrounded their astrological signs. Do had been interested in astrology. Both were Christians but had explored beyond what fundamentalists would approve of. In fact Do tried to go to seminary to follow in the footsteps of his Presbyterian minister dad and quit in the first year because they were too limiting what they could explore. Ti had been studying Blavatsky’s materials and things like the Mahatma Letters and materials about the ascended masters.

Upon meeting Ti recognized that Do was someone she had something to do with and at first Do thought she was interested him in a human way and wasn’t too keen on it, but also felt he wanted to pursue astrology, his chart and other things she was interested in. Soon they started the Christian Arts Center in the Christian University basement where Do worked but as they were exploring most anything spiritual, they were asked to leave. So they started another center called “KnowPlace” and had some participants while their friends and family and colleagues thought they were having an affair and were being detrimentally influenced by one another.

It got so bad that Ti’s “husband” threatened Do and they got a court order against his coming near Do. They met in late March or early April of 1972. By January 1, 1973 they knew they had to leave all behind to find out what it was they had to do together as the only thing they really had in common was a close relationship with their Heavenly Father.

They went to a farmhouse in Boerne, Texas and that’s where they spent a little less than 6 weeks studying everything they could get their hands on that was spiritual and is where they both started to get the same impressions independent of the other, when they were off in different directions. They never did have any physical relationship and were never “bed partners” at all. Neither were interested in the other in that way and both had no desire for that behavior at that time especially.

The impressions they got were that they had both, their souls, come from outer space and had some updates to the Bible and were here to fulfill prophecy. They began to write a book called, “I Can’t Believe That But You Must” but didn’t complete it and were having a hard time believing this about themselves so was a big painful adjustment to accept. They decided to travel to try to learn what prophecy they were to fulfill so they studied all the books they could find and some months later while camping on the Rogue River, at Gold Beach, Oregon they got the greater part of the picture into their heads. They knew that they were to fulfill the prophecy of the Two Witnesses in the Book of Revelations. They had a hard time accepting that because they always wanted to run the other way when someone would tell them they were the reincarnation of Cleopatra or some other Biblical figure.

They traveled across the U.S. leaving little notes for preachers saying, “the two witnesses were here” and then running out the door before having to talk to anyone. They went to a new age center to talk to the centers leaders and were told the centers leaders were the Two Witnesses so they couldn’t be. That threw them for a loop and they didn’t say that anymore.

Back when they had Knowplace, they had a student of sorts and they would occasionally meet this person in their travels and she offered them the use of a gasoline credit card which they used a bit. They had been working odd jobs to live off of. When they were in St. Louis on Christmas night their car broke down and Do pulled out one of his old credit cards that he knew was still good and used it to rent a car. They drove it quite a bit and ended up keeping it beyond the agreed upon time and they would write to the rental car company telling them they would pay for it and were taking good care of it. However, the car company reported the car stolen.

TI and DO were in Brownsville, Texas when they decided to break their story to the press. They called a reporter and told them they had a big story for him and told them where they were in a motel. The reporter thought it had to do with drug trafficking so called the police and they surrounded the motel. TI and DO were already a little paranoid so tried to drive away and were apprehended and it was discovered that they had warrants for both their arrests as the gasoline credit card was reported stolen by the husband of the student who gave it to them. They were both in jail. Ti got out after about a month as the charges were dropped. Do’s charges were dropped as well but the St. Louis prosecutor, knowing of TI and DO’s strange story decided to prosecute to make points towards his next election bid. As it ended up Do was in jail for 6 months when he was offered a plea of guilty that would be for time served or he could go to trial and take his chances. Since he wanted to get out, he pleaded guilty though he never stole anything though he and Ti did consider their choice to use the credit cards a mistake.

The benefit of Do being in jail was his writing what became their first statement of beliefs as follows:

=== STATEMENT I synopsis ===

What religions have sought to explain and lead us to believe in, has to do with what is above the human kingdom and what’s been said about how to attain that kingdom. Some teach to adore a savior as about all there is to gaining the promised rewards which TI and DO say is inaccurate, and they compare the “Process” of gaining entrance to “heaven” with the metamorphosis of a caterpillar to a butterfly. The caterpillar in this analogy is equivalent to a human being that is stimulated to separate from it’s caterpillar world to isolate itself by spinning a cocoon, within which it is then dedicating all it’s time and energy to changing into a butterfly that when it emerges is a new creature with totally new capabilities – it can now fly so is no longer limited to it’s previous environment and even looks like it has taken an evolutionary step to a more advanced creature. Likewise they said, that a human who seeks only to become a member of the Next Evolutionary Kingdom must also complete a metamorphic changeover to become that new creature before it dies.

They went on to say that in the case of humans the opportunity to willfully evolve into a member of their Next Evolutionary Step comes in stages with about two thousand years in between and that the last stage was when Jesus, who was already a Member of this Next Level Above Human, was incarnate – in the flesh to teach and demonstrate how to give all one’s energy to his “Father” in that kingdom through him, which he was sent to be the link to.

They said that the One who was a Member of that Next Kingdom forfeited his body of that Kingdom to enter a human female’s womb to take over the body named Jesus to use to interface with those Souls who were nearing being born into his Kingdom, to show them and even provide them with proof, that when he overcame all aspects of the human world, his body had changed into a new creature that could even overcome being killed. (I’ll add that he was killed by those who felt threatened by his presence and what he taught because a religion had formed around his previous incarnation in the body named Moses and that religion became in large part a dilution and distortion of the truth). They said that Jesus even stayed around for about 40 days after his resurrection from the dead to demonstrate his new changed over body’s new attributes, i.e. appearing and disappearing (changing his vibrations) before their eyes while letting some touch his new body (so they knew it was still physical). This would be like the butterfly dwelling among caterpillars for a short while to show them what they could look forward to if they separated from their caterpillar like world to go through the metamorphosis. Jesus left them in a cloud of light (what humans call UFO’s) to show how he travels and would return.

Then they explained that there were two individuals here now who also came from the Kingdom Above Human, incarnate again and who had awakened to their task to demonstrate the same proof of overcoming death. They said they were sent from that Above Human Kingdom by the “Father” to provide the same truth that was Jesus’ but this time by two individuals from that Kingdom, to restate the truth Jesus took on that became his burden to endure, restore that meaning that had been since rendered inaccurate and show how any individual can become a member in their kingdom by the same process. They said this re-statement process or the demonstration would happen within months. They indicated they would also recover from their “death,” aka to resurrect and would exit the earth’s surface via a UFO so were telling the truth so anyone left behind will comprehend the formula.

They closed the statement by saying those who can believe this process and do it will be “lifted up” and “saved” from death literally and that if someone seeks these two while they are here they will fill you in on the details and assist those who wish to follow this “path.”
=== end of Statement I synopsis ===

When Do was in jail, Ti got a nurses job back in Houston and saved enough to buy a car and they got back together and decided to mail out Statement One to New ages centers in California. One was sent to a meditation group in North Hollywood, California. The groups leader sent two of his students to meet with TI and DO and in doing so invited them to come speak to their group. When they did, to a crowd of over a hundred in a house several dozen wanted to follow them which took them by surprise as they didn’t think they were going to have followers and didn’t really want them but decided they had to go with the flow. That’s when they took the names, Bo and Peep because now they had some sheep.

They went to a campground and met with the couple dozen and others that came with them and spent some weeks meeting several times a day and after a few months decided to take their talk to others up the coast to the San Francisco bay area. The students held a meeting at Stanford and it was packed so they then held a meeting at Canada College and filled an auditorium twice and gained some more followers.

Students were required by TI and DO to leave all behind to join with them. They said to not leave a mess but to wrap things up in 2-3 days and meet them at a campground where they would then go to the next area to hold a meeting. That next area was Waldport, Oregon where I had been living for several years. I attended the meeting and knew I wanted to join. I went around telling my friends I felt like I sat in front of the equivalent of Jesus. They never said they were Jesus because Jesus was the name of the physical vehicle an Older Member from the Next Level took to perform that task. They said they were from the same family as Jesus and bore the same truth and it was to be a type of repeat performance of dying and resurrecting that they called the “demonstration.”

Some 34 people joined from the Waldport meeting and because some had arranged for their two children to live with their biological father who lives in Portland area, the police were told the kids were being abandoned and that started an investigation and involved the press. This was September of 1975 and by October it hit the national news talking about the mysterious two people who were leading some to believe if they left everything they would rendezvous with a spacecraft, (a cloud of light), a UFO to go to Heaven by.

For a week or so there was a push to learn who these two were and finally they found their human names and that Do had been a convicted felon. Walter Cronkite announced it and TI and DO who were in Las Vegas at the time felt “shot down by the press” and felt now that their reputations were ruined there was no sense going on. However after a couple days feeling subdued, they felt they got instruction from their Heavenly Father to keep going, so they went to their students who now were up to about 70 and told them the “two witnesses demonstration of death and resurrection” was canceled and they would understand if they didn’t want to follow them anymore, since their demonstration of that proof was a big basis of their mission statement.

Well that didn’t seem to phase any students. It didn’t phase me as I didn’t join based on seeing that proof. I simply knew this was for me, when all the other spiritual things I’d investigated since I was 16 and was now 24 didn’t make any sense to me but this did.

The 70 of us were all camping at the Chain of Lakes camping area north of Chicago, where TI and DO had sent us from the Colorado area where we’d held about 6-7 meetings and gained some more followers. When that news broke and TI and DO decided to go on they traveled to Chicago to talk to us and in the process learned that two of our numbers were imposters who were writing a thesis on cults so infiltrated our group. Anyway it was pretty clear that being in a big group now that it was in every newspaper in the country was not going to work so TI and DO split us up and sent us in different directions to hold more meetings. A number of us lost touch with TI and DO for months but in strange ways managed to get back together. I had travel to Vermont and Boston to hold meetings with my partner and when our car broke down hitchhiked around holding meetings and went down to Brownsville and finally in a desperate attempt to know what to do I sort of screamed to my Heavenly Father and the next day or so ran into TI and DO and their little group of 6 students who traveled with them in Oklahoma City where we saw a familiar poster at the library. Being on the road in the winter, libraries were a great place to stop and get warm and read the news, etc as we were still thinking we might get a signal that TI and DO were still going to perform the demonstration.
So we were back with a group they assigned us to and held some more meetings until Ti said, “the harvest is over” on April 21, 1976. They told us to finish up the meetings we had scheduled and then by July 4th we had all been called to gather in Wyoming at the Veedavou rustic camping area in the Medicine Bow National forest just east of Laramie, Wyoming.

There were about 100 students who stayed in the group. Three were probably at least double that who initially joined but dropped out for one reason or another. That ended our “recruitment” period and TI and DO said it was time to get down to the business of the “overcoming of humanness process.” Before that winter TI and DO sent 19 students away from the larger group and told us who remained we made the “first cut.”

We spend the next 3 or so years living outdoors between Wyoming in the spring to summer and in south Texas in the fall and winter. We had a tent city at one point with generators for lights  and lived mostly in the last couple years on ranch lands TI and DO would arrange to lease. When the money ran out that had been gathered when people joined and had something to donate, that paid for 100 of us for food, gas, toiletries, etc. some of us were instructed by TI and DO to get jobs, but not to do something we’d done before so not to relate to the past. We needed to put our past behind us in order to begin to put all our energy into our changing ourselves into the new creature, the “butterfly.”

We moved into houses and people would drop out ever so often, leaving in the middle of the night usually. No one was held against their will. There were no children and no relationships and no sexuality and no drugs or alcohol or smoking or music or anything we did before, but we had pleasures – they just needed to be pleasures TI and DO designed for us. Every year or so TI and DO would require each of us to spend some time evaluating if there was something in the world we still wanted.

Ti left her vehicle in 1985. It was diagnosed as cancer in her liver. Two years before her exit she had an eye removed that was cancerous. When she left it was a surprise and some were put to the test of whether they still believed in who they were and their overcoming process. To the core believers it didn’t’ shake their faith. Do said that Ti’s human vehicle burnt out dealing with all the negativity from those in the world who we students left behind who blamed Them for. There was a lot of truth to that as before Ti left she had us visit with those that were stressed at our absence from their lives. I traveled to NYC area and visited for the first time since I joined and it was a good visit over a weekend. TI and DO flew us all over the country. The task was to help relieve the anxiety others had at our absence. There was a lot of anxiety we learned as there was a network of parents set up to try to learn where we were. And there were several private investigators sent out to find us but who failed. As it turned out we’d move to another city just in time to miss when an investigator got to the town we were in. We learned this from our visits.

Then in 1987 while our numbers were down to the 30’s Do felt like we “needed to be who we are” – in other words he needed to stand up for being the return of the same soul who had been incarnate in the vehicle named Jesus and the students needed to stand up for being the Souls who had been Jesus’ students. However, Do didn’t know how we were to do this so he began to explore. That’s when we began to study the material that was coming out about the UFO and Space Alien phenomena. It was 1988 while living north of Dallas, Texas in a ranch house on a cattle ranch that Do felt to write what would be called the “’88 Update – The UFO Two and Their Crew” that was to “set the record straight” as there was so much misinformation about TI and DO from 1975 and thereafter.

I’m going to end this little summary there. Do’s 88update provides a great deal more to see and understand and throughout this book I also fill in many details that include what took place until they exited in 1997 and thereafter to date.

I contend and offer significant evidence that TI and DO were unlike all others who are considered by the mainstream community to be so called typcial “cult leaders.” One huge evidence was how they only had us provide Their information to the public in a face to face way via public meetings for two approximate nine-month periods with about seventeen years in between, unlike most every other organization who were constantly recruiting:

TI and DO only spoke at public meetings for about nine months from August of 1975 to April of 1976. (Students held publically advertised meetings a little before then and until June of 1976). Before that they were criss-crossing the country telling people the Information they were receiving and digesting that included knowing who they were for the delivery and application of that Information and how their task was described in the Book of Revelations as the Two Witnesses. Starting in July of 1976 they took those who had joined and began the serious “Overcoming Process,” which also ended up looking like a vetting of the seriousness of each student.

Before 1976, the first thing Do told a group of four students, including myself, literally days after leaving our world behind, was that it would be unlikely that all of us would make it. When I heard that, part of me thought I could do it but it wasn’t like I was bent on proving that at that moment and another part of me wondered why, so I just logged it. I believe I was the only one of those four who stayed the course, though I too dropped out in 1994, though it’s not over for anyone if they seek to petition the Next Level for their own stepwise process to engage their separation from and overcoming of the human kingdom.

Now it’s time for the scriptural evidence that TI and DO were the return of the Ones called the Father and Jehovah and the One who was incarnate as Adam, Enoch, Moses, Elijah, Jesus and then Do as prophesied:

Section II. Link:

https://sawyerhg.wordpress.com/2017/02/04/ti-do-the-father-jesus-heavens-gate-ufo-two-witnesses-ii-jesus-prophecy-of-the-return-of-the-kingdom-of-god-kingdom-of-heaven/

Was Reliance on Ti (Father) and Do (Jesus) a human attachment?

November 10, 2016

question to sawyer:

don’t you have a humanly attachment to Ti and Do>? The relationship that you and the others shared with the “father” and the “jesus” were markedly human in it’s reliance and strong attachment to them. How is this above human>?

Sawyers response:

If any student did have a human attachment to Ti and Do, for instance attracted to their physical vehicle, would be an example they would have had to overcome it. Ti and Do did nothing to foster such. Another human way would be, to be “friends” or “confidants” and Ti and Do would have none of that. We were also prohibited from having either of those forms of attachment to one another. If we did, we had to overcome it. We acted towards one another as crewmembers and towards Ti and Do as an admiral and captain – strictly business, though that doesn’t mean we didn’t laugh together but not in human ways, unless a student did so in a human way that then they would find out needed to be overcome. Overcoming has to do with recognizing behavior and ways that are human including thoughts and not acting them out or allowing ourselves to entertain them in our minds. The attachment we were fostering was one of Mind – Love of their Mind – the things they said, the way the acted, their character, their choices, their ideas. We had pleasure but it needed to be a pleasure instigated by Ti and/or Do.

For instance one time we had a large property we were leasing and it had a 1/8 mile track to run on. And another time we had a volley ball court. Another time, even several we had outdoor build in swimming pools and one time an indoor build in swimming pool. Another time we had an indoor squash court. Other times tennis courts. We had a music listening option at times. We went on outings – to the zoo or to a restaurant occassionally or to the movies somewhat regularily like once every two weeks or so. We had an exercise room, and took walks for heath when we lived in more rural settings. We  had a small lake and had a little row boat people could paddle around in. We had puppies once. We had birds on several occasions. We had a christmas celebration on two of 19 years. We experimented with a tiny bit of wine one of those christmas parties. We bought gifts for the group, not for one another and had a tree even. Now with all these things we had instructions on how to use them. Sometimes just a simple instruction that we could use it and they they’d get reports about how some were using it and they’d then show us how a Next Level Member would do it. Sometimes such would be discontinued because one or two couldn’t not play in a human way. For example – volley ball – some of the males got into spikeing the ball. Ti and Do said a Next Level member wouldn’t try to make someoine miss. They would try to see how long they could keep the ball in the air between the two  sides rather than try to make someone miss. Next Level membres are not competitive at all.

It’s human to be competitive. But we wouldn’t have known what was or wasnt’ behavior in the NextLevel until they told us just like they told the children of israel not to kill and steal and covet what others have, etc. as a toddler level lesson plan. And those with Jesus would not have known the updated lesson to not even judge someone as breaking a moses law as with the prostitute caught in the ack as it says. That is the process of bringing a soul and the genetic vehicles they occupy and try to take over through the lesson steps that are actually like trimesters in a birth. If you have some examples of what you think were human attachments to Ti and Do run it by me and I’ll do my best to show what was happening.

But as said to overcome it meant to “change our mind”  constantly, and the meaning of “repentance” to take in Their Mind to replace our old misinformation mind with. When it comes from our Older Members no matter what they give us, it’s is “consuming” their Mind. They are the bread to feed our soul with. One time Do shaved his head and a few students wanted to do the same and Do apprecieated that but said that wasn’t needed to mimic – especially for that time when many of us had jobs in the world or were seen by humans when we weren’t so bold about being monks – as we were often living in neighborhoods where we would have been run out if they others there learned we were a “cult” or suspected such – which did happen a time or two, but the point was that we didnt’ need to duplicate eveything Do did in that way.

For another instance Do was primarily left handed and some wanted to try to be left handed when holding a fork, etc. In that case Do said they could try it but it wasn’t an instruction so if we didn’t do it, it wasn’t counted as something we were rebelling from doing. It’s not this way in the Next Level in their spacecrafts, or in their laboratories, inside planets and such. We are not watched all the time. These things were just for the training program as those who cling to their old ways are showing rebelliousness to adopting the new ways which means they don’t really recognize who Ti and Do are. We have not yet grown to see their Mind through their vehicle – not literally see their Mind but recognizing it having had a previous relationshiop with them for even millenium, though not all in the classroom had necessarily had the same previous relationship. (That doesn’t matter anyone as no one is held to what they were or should think they have a greater stature because of what/who they were. Do hated that bumper sticker that said jesus was the same yesterday, today and tomorrow, because that like saying he didn’t grow into more than he was before and growth is constant for those who want to grow and that continues in the Next Level.)

re: reliance:

Humans were also beign taught to form a reliance on, for instance their human father and mother – Honor them, which I believe means respect them and what they say, look up to them. Everything in the human kingdom is set up to be a stepping stone into the NextLevel behavior and ways. That’s why Jesus started talkign about God Diety, Jehovah more in terms of his being our Father – the greek word Pater or Hebrew word Abba to equate with that commandment to honor our father and our mother.

We were out growing self reliance. jesus taught that too when he said to be his disciple one had to “deny self”. Also the Lords prayer said one wanted to have the Father’s “will” for them. Jesus relied upon his Father entirely. He said he had said everything to his students his Father had given him to say. He said he layed down his life for his Father, on his Father’s instuctions he received the timing to enact when he went up the mountain with james and john and peter and they called it a transfiguration that Do said he thought was when he had “changed over” his vehicle into a next level vehicle (inside) – the metamorphosis had completed enough to where his “soul body” was viable – another topic.

Mose also taught losing self reliance that Jesus also repeated saying one must give all their heart (blood, love, emotions, passions) all their Mind (thoughts, understanding, feeling, desires) all their  soul (breath, spirit, LIFE, thirst, aspirations, inspiration, imagination) and all our strength, though when the Older Member isnt’ incarnate and we hadn’t had a genuine personal relationship wit that present Older Member the next greatest instruction was to “love one’s neighbor as themselves” and neighbor was every fellow human and love was a brotherly or sisterly love – which in so doing was pleasing the Next Level Older Members and showing we were meeting their qualifications for graduation so that we  would give our all to them when we are brought back to take over a new human vehicle prepared for us when the Older Member is incarnate again so we can have that personal relationship to give our ALL.