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Pineapple Press Heaven’s Gate Podcast comments by Sawyer re: Doubt in Ti and Do’s classroom, Tests as a “Filter”

October 20, 2017

Below is the access information for the Pineapple Press Podcast Series Heaven’s Gate and followed by Sawyers comments to each episode:

Pinapple Press Podcast Series – Heaven’s Gate
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Episode one: The Seekers

Sawyer’s comments:

Franks statement used in a misleading way and the background re: having doubts in the classroom and how students were constantly “tested” on whether they wanted to be in the classroom or not, as they were always free to leave:

In episode one of the Heaven’s Gate podcast, at the 8 minute mark, the host starts to go over a description of what some of the 38 students said in the exit videos they made days before laying down their human lives. After students Mllody and Jwnody’s clips are played, the host says, “Some may even have had doubts at the end” and they play a clip that was Frank, who was Andody in the Heaven’s Gate “Classroom”, who dropped out in 1993, about a year before I did and has told me on several occasions over the years that he thought DO diverged from what Ti had taught that led to leading the class into suicide because of his problem with his homosexuality, if I recall correctly. This opinion can be linked to Robert Balch’s writings and conclusion that I believe I’ve read from Benjamin Zeller as well.)

So in episode 1 when talk about the exit statements played starting around the 8 minute mark, Frank’s clip said, “It just felt, that conflict of, I’m scared shitless but I’m going to do this anyway because I don’t know what else to do”.

I hadn’t heard Franks voice in over 15 years and it changed a great deal from how I remembered it, so at first I wondered who in the exit video’s said that. I wondered if I missed it somehow though I’ve listened to them all maybe three times over the last 20 years. It didn’t make any sense to me, the wording, nor that DO would have someone in the class that was that filled with that much doubt about what they were about to do. Here’s why I say that:

Doubts in the Classroom and Events that became FILTERING TESTS of who would STAND UP for their commitment to TI and DO and their Overcoming of Humanness Process:

Here is a brief overview of the events that led up to many leaving the classroom – because of having doubts (By the way, doubts were expected but learning how to recognize them and counteract them, and not give them energy, extinguish them as part of the overcoming process that was a self administered washing of our brains from their humanness via TI and DO’s instructions.

-In August of 1994 after 9 months of giving public meetings, where we nearly doubled our numbers from the original 24 who had survived, which was the Second and Last “Wave” of public interface in 18 years, DO said in a meeting with all present, something very close to, “it seems that we will need to exit our vehicles by our own hands”.

A couple weeks before then we had a meeting where DO provided us with a poster to use in what would become our last public meeting near Portsmouth, New Hampshire that actually suggested this idea. Here is the poster:

https://sawyerhg.wordpress.com/2016/11/14/poster-used-in-aug-1994-entitled-the-shedding-of-our-borrowed-human-bodies-may-be-required/

(It’s in the Heaven’s Gate Book – Section 6 – Page 11)

After that meeting with DO we all traveled back to California and some of us resumed the IT jobs we had with Subscriber Computing, Inc. in Laguna Hills, California that we gave up during the 9 months on the road giving meetings.

-Then in September of 1994 while I was still in the group, DO held a meeting in San Clemente, where DO had rented a warehouse, where most of the class was living where he detailed the exit method of drinking a strong barbiturate mixture and asked every individual one by one around the room if they “had any reservations” about acting on this planned exit method. I recall one new student expressing reservations but learned that another did after that meeting. They both left in the next couple days. Carlan (Crlody) is witness to this.

One of those two students who left in 1994 who had reservations about the exit method had just joined that year and another who was Arrody had re-joined in 1994 having initially joined in 1975-6 and had left the class either right before or right after Ti left her vehicle. I don’t know why he left that first time but it wasn’t long after we received the option to listen to music for pleasure (Classical, Gilbert and Sullivan and Kitaro) was discontinued because Arrody was spending too much time listening and getting into it too much, when there were all sorts of ways to help the forward motion of the craft. It wasn’t meant to be a favorite pastime and most in the class were not exercising that option as far as I knew, but I had a full time day job as I think Arrody also had. I think I recall that “in-crafters” – those without jobs in the world, would listen to music as background at times during the day. So perhaps that was a test for Arrody, whether he could choose to listen in the way a member of the Next Level would, so could have been part of the reason he left or perhaps it was a coincidence.

Backing up many years, from the start Ti and Do, by following their step wise instructions from their Older Members, seemed to put things into motion that acted to test our commitment and thus filter out those didn’t rise to the requirements to stay in the classroom – those they didn’t think were ready to go the distance of totally overcoming all their humanness. They put things into motion well before they knew exactly what was to come, (as they always said they were only given instructions a step ahead of their student body because how and when new “steps” were instigated was based on the free will choices of each student), well before they considered “laying down their and/or our vehicles, (aka suicide). It was interesting to watch this for 19 years.

To follow are the primary examples of how they employed “tests”, that I am aware of. TI and DO expressed that when they received instructions sometimes they knew it would be a test for some and sometimes they warned us that it was a test as can be heard in the Blackhawk audio tapes posted on my Youtube channel: 3SPM :  (Here is Blackhawk tape 1 of 3):

They didn’t conjure up tests. They received instructions they recognized would be tests for some – the instigation of certain things to think about and/or do, that many times would challenge us all, though they said none were more than we could handle – if we sought to employ their help – the ways they taught to combat the negatives that became the criteria for the test.

For instance one time we moved the entire camp of around 30 tents and after we were almost done setting up, they gave instructions to move again that same day to very short distance away.

-The first big test for some came when Ti and Do came to know that the “Demonstration” was cancelled or postponed.

Here is what DO wrote in “Statement I” that was mailed to people that stimulated their first meeting invitation that DO wrote while in jail for 6 months waiting for the St. Louis prosecutor to make a case against  him (since charges had been dropped by the Rental Car Company), that describes the “Demonstration”:

There are two individuals here now who have also come from that next kingdom, incarnate as humans, awakened, and will soon demonstrate the same proof of overcoming death. They are “sent” from that kingdom by the “Father” to bear the same truth that was Jesus’. This is like a repeat performance, except this time by two (a man and a woman) to restate the truth Jesus bore, restore its accurate meaning, and again show that any individual who seeks that kingdom will find it through the same process. This “re-statement” or demonstration will happen within months. The two who are the “actors” in this “theatre” are in the meantime doing all they can to relate this truth as accurately as possible so that when their bodies recover from their “dead” state (resurrection) and they leave (UFO’s) those left behind will have clearly understood the formula.

Those who can believe this process and do it will be “lifted up” individually and “saved” from death – literally. If you seek those two while they are here they will gladly fill you in on the details and assist those who wish to follow in this “path.”

It is interesting that even though the demonstration of death overcome was not physically visible, I later realized when I first started to analyze this history with regard to the Revelation chapter 11 prophecy of the Two Witnesses that they were first to be “subdued”, stated as “overcome” in most translations with a time period in between when they would then “separate by dying themselves” the best translation of the Greek phrase “apokteino auto” most translated in various Bibles as “kill them”, but where “auto” also  means “themselves” and apokteino is as a compound word where “apo” as a prefix means “separate” or “exit” or “take away from” (their Soul taken away from their vehicle).

Rev 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies (shall lie) in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
Rev 11:9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.

Some people translate apokteino as “kill (or even just) “destroy” or “ruin”, “in any way”, not just by dying. Ti and Do did feel “ruined” as DO stated in the booklet he wrote entitled, “’88 Update – The UFO Two and their Crew”:

Also the words “dead bodies” did not appear in the manuscripts. The Greek word, “ptoma”  from the alternate of “pipto” = “a ruin” but from “peto, kin to petomai provides the “idea of alighting; to fall (literally or figuratively); fall down or light on. There are only two other usages of “ptoma” besides the three usages here in Rev 11. One of those two translates it to “carcase” but can just as easily be ruin:

Mat 24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles ((from Greek aer (an eagle from it’s wind like flight))) be gathered together.

Here is the same information in Lukes gospel that has a different Greek word “soma” used to translate into “body”:

Luk 17:37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body ((soma=body)), thither will the eagles ((from Greek aer (an eagle from it’s wind like flight))) be gathered together.

So this “dead body” translation would be more accurately “ruined body” or just ruin which is what happened to Ti and Do when the national news came out and told the world by Walter Cronkite that these Two were charlatans and were felons from Texas so couldn’t possibly be from outer space taking people to heaven on a spacecraft. When Ti and Do saw that news they both thought their “mission was dead”. They were in Las Vegas at the time and after 3 days felt they received instructions from their Older Member (from a spacecraft) to tell the students they felt this was the shooting down in the streets and then continue on with meetings, which they did and then  on April 21st Ti called a halt to meetings and neither held another public meeting to complete their 1260 days of prophecy speaking.

Then after the period of time said as 3 1/2 days, where “days” is equally translated as a time period, also said in Rev 12 as a “time, times and a half a time” which I can say a  lot about, that  amounts to two such periods that were designed to be flexible as the Next Level doesn’t know exactly  what humans will choose to do when they hear the information for their in the flesh (incarnate) Representatives, they “exit by dying themselves” – apokteino auto.

So continuing on with what DO wrote about that time:

One of the hardest things that Ti and Do had to do concerned the “demonstration” (referred to in Statement I). The students had been told that while they were out holding meetings they would hear of the demonstration, and that would be the signal to stop holding meetings and come running. It was rumored for a while that the demonstration
was going to happen in San Francisco. Ti and Do were in Las Vegas when the TV network news programs all broke the story about the two. Now because of the kind of publicity that had come out across the country, climaxed by the networks, Ti and Do felt that further meetings were pretty hopeless and people had already made up their
minds about how ridiculous this all was. Ti and Do felt that the demonstration was still the one thing that could change that. However, they grieved literally for days, feeling like they had been shot down by the media and the mission was dead.

They received instruction to not walk into a physical demonstration but rather to know that the “killing in the street” of the two witnesses had occurred at the hands of the media. However, they felt like this was a cop-out or a “chickening out” interpretation of the one act that was the basis of their whole following. So, with much embarrassment, they called their students together, convinced that without a physical demonstration, their students would have every right to call them charlatans. Much to their surprise, the students, almost without exception, accepted the interpretation and said, “OK then, where do we go from here”?

Ti and Do still felt that to continue was probably one of their greatest tests. Nevertheless, they got up, kicked the dust off their tired feet, and continued with the instruction to hold meetings a while longer. They then became more organized in their groups and more systematic with their communication between cities. All in all, the meetings continued for a little over ten months.

So the literal  physical ascension of their bodies into a spacecraft was laid out in such a way in prophecy that it could have happened exactly as described or could have equally pertained to the physical “soul body” that they always said was growing inside of our human bodies – comparing it to a caterpillar growing a new body inside it’s cocoon/chrysalis condition that would then fly away, but in that case might not be visible to the human eye, thus another “test” of whether or not we can see it because of wanting to understand it and thus being given that understanding by the Next Level. They spoke about that growing physical body at that point in 1975 and thereafter as “body changes”.

Thus this was the first big test as DO wrote and I guess at least one He knew of dropped out at that point:

Much to their surprise, the students, almost without exception, accepted the interpretation and said, “OK then, where do we go from here”?

And this is what was recorded to have happened to Jesus that Christians call his having a “glorified body” after he rose from the human dead condition. Jesus went on to demonstrate his new body’s capabilities – appearing and disappearing, and defying gravity as shown in his calming of the waves on the sea and when he exited by physically ascending to be received by a “cloud” (Covering). Jesus said that  he was not a spirit:

Luk 24:34 Saying, The Lord is risen indeed, and hath appeared to Simon.
Luk 24:35 And they told what things were done in the way, and how he was known of them in breaking of bread.
Luk 24:36 And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
Luk 24:37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
Luk 24:38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
Luk 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
Luk 24:40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.
Luk 24:41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
Luk 24:42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
Luk 24:43 And he took it, and did eat before them.
Luk 24:44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

TI and DO told us that they felt Jesus completed his “change over” at the time described in the records as the Transfiguration:

Mar 9:1 And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power.
Mar 9:2 And after six days Jesus taketh with him Peter, and James, and John, and leadeth them up into an high mountain apart by themselves: and he was transfigured before them.
Mar 9:3 And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them.
Mar 9:4 And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses: and they were talking with Jesus.
Mar 9:5 And Peter answered and said to Jesus, Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.
Mar 9:6 For he wist not what to say; for they were sore afraid.
Mar 9:7 And there was a cloud that overshadowed them: and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.
Mar 9:8 And suddenly, when they had looked round about, they saw no man any more, save Jesus only with themselves.
Mar 9:9 And as they came down from the mountain, he charged them that they should tell no man what things they had seen, till the Son of man were risen from the dead.
Mar 9:10 And they kept that saying with themselves, questioning one with another what the rising from the dead should mean.
Mar 9:11 And they asked him, saying, Why say the scribes that Elias must first come?
Mar 9:12 And he answered and told them, Elias verily cometh first, and restoreth all things; and how it is written of the Son of man, that he must suffer many things, and be set at nought.
Mar 9:13 But I say unto you, That Elias is indeed come, and they have done unto him whatsoever they listed, as it is written of him.

Ti and Do never dropped the prospect that they could do the Demonstration in the way they first thought might happen and DO never dropped the idea that they could board the spacecraft with their human vehicles, which is part of why I think they took out Abduction Insurance and packed travel bags they kept alongside when they laid down their vehicles to die.

I don’t doubt that TI could have healed them all or for some if their human vehicles had changed over enough could have healed themselves from the ingestion of the strong barbiturate, which shows some potential in:

Mar 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
Mar 16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

Yet TI and DO taught that such “miracles” are not given to those that still have a chance to graduate into Next Level membership with their current human vehicle as a big part of overcoming was not having that kind of proof because then the Mind/Spirit has not grown enough to recognize the truth, what is most real. That’s where the idea of “faith” comes from as “the evidence of things unseen”. (Faith today has become a largely distorted idea that looks a lot more like wishful thinking or as Hope and “blind faith”)

How the 19 were separated out of the larger classroom:

-In the late fall of 1976 Ti and Do sent 19 individuals who had joined the group during the first public meeting period from 1975 to 1976, out of the group and told those who remained, of which I was one that “you made the first cut”. This came after months living outdoors in the Veedavou rustic camping area in the Medicine Bow National forest east of Laramie, Wyoming, where overcoming began after the first round of public meetings where we had about 100 student members. While there TI and DO became aware that some were still smoking pot and having sex. They held a group meeting and laid down the law that these were unacceptable behaviors in their classroom. Some (Drrody and Stlody) who were part of those 19 found their way back into the group years later by seemingly coincidental circumstances while we were living in trailers in Amarillo, Texas.

-Ti and Do were pressed by some students in 1975 and perhaps thereafter for when we would get picked up by the UFO (They always preferred “spacecraft”, which they always taught was equivalent to a “cloud of light” in the Records) and they at first said said it could be months but then finally said, “no more than 5 years, which they later regretted saying.

(However, I have learned that even those things they regretted or felt were mistakes were made into positives for our development, in other words they weren’t “mistakes” from our perspective but part of the program to instill our own flexibility of how that Next Level are not static teachers – when the handwriting was on the wall – when they got new ideas or instructions that came as ideas many times, they didn’t hesitate to deliver them to us, even though they knew sometimes it was changing what they had said before and how that would test our resolve. One of their sayings was: “Change is the name of the game”).

But then in about 1980 Ti said we needed to prepare to be picked up and we were in Boerne, Texas, where we were still living in tents, which was on top of a cave called “Cave Without a Name.”

So we stayed up all night waiting for the spacecraft to come and it never showed up. Ti said nothing about it then but after Ti left her vehicle in 1985 DO told us TI told him at that time that she felt she had “egg on her face” because of that. But after that didn’t happen at least one student left the group. She was Jssody, who had been Alxody’s girlfriend before they joined in 1975. Others left around that time as well including Echody, Rkkody and Wndody but in each case I didn’t know why they left as in most cases then they left in the middle of the night, I suspect so they wouldn’t have to face Ti and Do. Rkkody and Wndody ended up rejoining again when they had the option. For me, the fact that a spacecraft didn’t come that night had no affect on me.

Just like it had no affect on me when they cancelled (or postponed the “demonstration” – being killed and resurrecting). I say postponed because they never knew whether that would still happen or not. That’s seen in the book UFO Missionaries Extraordinary by Hayden Hewes and Brad Steiger that was written about them. (Parts of this book are posted on this blog).

-Ti and Do at one point held a meeting where Ti said to the group, “you all need to give us your will”. She told DO privately that he told us about after she left her vehicle that she thought saying that might result in “losing half the class”. As it turned out for one reason or another, that’s largely what happened.

-Starting during the later years when TI was still incarnate, TI and DO would periodically have us stop whatever we were doing and find someplace in the “craft” (house) where we could be by ourselves and make a point to open the door to whether or not there was something in the world we still wanted to do or someone we wanted to be with. Ti and Do said they too did this at times as an exercise they equated with descending into a pit, because they came to hate remaining in the human kingdom. The instruction from the start was to literally block out all thoughts of the past or such ideas, but during these times they wanted us to open those doors. That usually lasted for less than a half hour when they would let us know time was up and they said, then forget about that. However no doubt some might have a hard time closing that door again, that is if they had such a door to open to anything in the world that still attracted them. I never had any thoughts during those times of wanting anything in the world. I simply thought about things like my vehicles family and playing music again but pertaining to me, I hadn’t really left that much behind to join nor had I started up much in the world to attract me back. I don’t know if anyone left because of opening those doors but it is still a big indication that Ti and Do were not wanting anyone to be with them that felt that draw (that they didn’t want to overcome), yet I also know they didn’t want any students to leave either.

-Early in 1985 Ti and Do scheduled all the students who had anyone in the world the opportunity to pay anyone who had anxiety about their whereabouts and condition a visit, saying if they were in more than one location perhaps they could travel to one spot. So most of us flew to where our parents were for the weekend and flew back. That was opening the door to any who might want to leave, making it easy for them to do so.

-I don’t know of anyone leaving after the first visit trip but then after Ti left her vehicle DO set up the same visit schedule around 1987. I was even partnered with Srfody for the trip since we came from the same home town on Long Island and while there we met with Jwnody’s mother in Locust Grove. And Ollody who was visiting in Connecticut and Jwnody and Srfody visited with my vehicle’s parents and siblings and relatives to show them what kind of people we were with. I could have been wrong but on that trip I felt Srfody may have been interested in me again in a human way but I ignored what I felt were advances in that regard. It wasn’t the first time I experienced that with her. On several occasions in the classroom on duty in the same Lab (nutri-lab ( kitchen), fiber-lab (laundry), impro-lab (house and car maintenance), yeast-lab (bakery)) she would rub up against me a tiny bit which was a no no. Srrody also told me she had given him those same kinds of indications. In Austin, Srf was claimed to pull Alxody into a closet where they felt each other up, as reported by Alxody as a “slippage” (what we called a sin). So in a real sense sending us on a visit was a setup that was a test of whether we wanted to leave the classroom or not as that made it very easy to do.

-In early 1987 Mrcody and Srfody were instructed by DO and the class to leave the class because Mrcody didn’t want to abide by the “I could be wrong” lesson step. They were given a car and some money. Srfody came to Mrcody’s side while Mrcody was being offered help from classmates to get past his rebellion against that lesson step. “I could be wrong” was designed to deflate self confidence. It’s the same thing as when Jesus taught that his disciples needed to “deny self” and also is what is meant by saying the Lords prayer… “thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven…”. So our instruction was to state those words or words like that in front of any statement of opinion. It wasn’t just to deflate self confidence. It was to transfer that self confidence to drawing from Ti and Do’s mind to make decisions. Next Level Members are crew and service orientated, not self orientated which is also where Buddhism principals come from it seems – denouncing self but replacing self with the Information Mind from our Older Members (God) when they last gave instructions to abide by. The lesson step started with the example of “leisure ports”. These were a type of tent we had. They were light green in color. Ti and Do said that if they said they were polka dotted then if we were of one mind with them, we’d see them as polka dotted. (I know that can seem like a mind trip, but Ti and Do never said things like that to test us, but they did give us information that was hard to buy initially for some more than others, which was the same kind of thing. One needs to surrender their judgement to their Older Member to gain the greater judgement from that Older Member. True Older Members can be trusted to not abuse their students as opposed to in the human kingdom when giving your will to someone else can be quite detrimental and hazardous. Recognizing the Older Member is a gift and anyone can have that gift if they ask for it by projecting their asking into deep outer space, beyond the stars to the Highest Source they can imagine and then observe what comes however subtle to see at first.

-Not long after returning from the second visit Rthody wanted to leave and did because he was attracted by re-starting up his relationship with his vehicle’s brother and his family. Rthody ended up going publicly against Ti and Do and was living in the Nappa Sonoma valley when I visited with him in 1995.

-At about that same time in 1987 Do held a meeting where he indicated he was preparing to be castrated. He met with males and went over the procedure, not suggesting it would be for anyone else but that seemed to be an implication. He then called about a dozen of us to his craft (house) and we had a meeting and he asked if any of the students in male vehicles had any reservations about having the castration procedure. Hvvody was the only one who said he did. Hvvody left the classroom some months later.

-It was around 1991 or 1992 that DO said we had enough money in our possession that we can offer $2000 to any student who is staying in the class because it has become a comfortable life style when continued effort needed to be put out toward conscious overcoming of our remaining human behaviors and ways. I don’t know if anyone took him up on that offer or not but not long after that Pmmody left and then Andody left. One of Pmmody’s complaints she voiced in a documentary was that DO didn’t provide enough dental care. Rthody’s complaint was that there were too many “procedures” one being the direction one moved the razor when shaving. (That came about because someone asked DO how he shaved. TI and instructed us to make our commitment to DO and part of what went with such commitment was wanting to do everything like DO did it, though DO said that wasn’t necessary in all cases. TI and DO didn’t dream up “procedures” – they came about because of reports and problems and improvements in the craft operation, though they became tests to willfully follow or not.

A very large part of overcoming was overcoming doubts. I didn’t realize I had a bunch of doubts until I left the group and looked back on thoughts and actions I engaged that were actually deceitful – not following certain procedures and ignoring I was doing that which broke another procedure to surface breakages of procedure.

All this is a small part of the evidence that no one was held against their will in any way, shape or form and that we needed to work on our overcoming to stay in the classroom. It was designed to be a small group for that First Wave. It was too hard for most to justify staying with it year after year.

So the idea that some, who were laying down their vehicle’s lives, had doubts to the degree that they would express it in an exit tape saying they had no other choice was kind of absurd to hear but coming from someone who had dropped out or never entertained their beliefs it’s hard to imagine they didn’t have doubts.

But to the listener who is unaware of much of the story this statement by Frank seemed to give the appearance of the speaker as one of the 38 in the exit videos. Frank was not there but he was probably asked about his response to the exit video’s (as I was by the Pineapple Press team) so the writer stuck that in the podcast whether consciously or not, as if to put words in the mouth of one who was there. I hope it wasn’t staged for that affect as it would be quite deceitful to stage. If they really wanted to stay true to the facts, they could have used Franks clip but explained in a few words that it was his response to one of the exit video’s. Even though that too would be a way of potentially sacrificing the truth, as some just hear something and think it’s so, at least it would have been truthful to the facts. If it gets explained in a future episode, I guess it’s better than nothing but for those that hear it and don’t see the truth, it becomes misinformation they think is the truth.

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Jesus, UFO’s in Renaissance Art & Evidence Some are Waking up

December 24, 2015

This article (link below) shows pictures of paintings (fresco’s) from the first millennium that show UFO’s amidst scenes of Jesus and Mary. Some show spacecrafts in the sky, clearly showing a human inside piloting. Others show a craft sending a beam of light to Mary. I found the comments the best part for me because I knew of these paintings and they show how many people are waking up more to realities and aren’t automatically swayed by the religious misinformation that often people understandably run away from. This is the good thing about Christmas time – people are apt to write stories like this when otherwise they might not. As Ti and Do said, the Next Level makes all negatives into positives. I listed the comments I replied to in the article below:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ufos-in-renaissance-art_5679991de4b014efe0d7044b?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592

comment to article:

Geronimos Ignoramus. Denial still prevails. Anyone Interpreting the renditions in those paintings as anything other then flying craft in an era where there was not supposed to be anything flying in the air, is in denial and keeping the big lie going.

My reply:

And that’s the way the Physical Evolutionary Level Above Human has developed their “garden”, they grow Souls upon, giving each human container they plant those souls within, like the seeds Jesus illustrated, the choice of what to believe, as it stimulates those who can stand the “heat” the choice to bear the trying fires of “changing one’s mind” (repentance) that can purify their Mind aka Spirit to yield the gold. I have a fountain of proof provided us by those who took the names, Ti and Do, from the notes in the Song in the Sound of Music, that they were the return of the Father and Jesus in the task of the Two Witnesses, to where the Father incarnated in a woman’s body as shown in Revelations 12 and came to get her “son” started who came in a male body that had the name AppleWhite, who FIRST came public talking Human Individual Metamorphosis – the overcoming of humanness process illustrated by the Caterpillar becoming a Butterfly, saying the biblical depictions of clouds of light, etc. were physical spacecraft because the Membership in the Next Level used physical bodies they grow to spec, that students are awarded when they go through that trial by fire – the Chrysalis that they then led their student body through to result in their joyful and fully voluntary sacrifice of their human bodies seen by the world as the Heaven’s Gate “cult of truth”. We are now in the midst of the LAST harvest stage opportunity that is different from the FIRST harvest stage, described as the time of Tribulation and the “winepress”. The key to realizing the truth to what I am saying is yet another choice that can be fully verified by each individual who has the desire to project their asking to see the truth to the Older Member, who Jesus termed, “our Father in the literal heavens” – deep outer space, where no space aliens or discarnates can intercept, even screaming to know if this is true and then paying attention to the many ways the truth will be shown to each.

comment to article:

Looks like UFOs to me. Artists from those earlier periods obviously saw some very similar shapes and sky positions as we see today in various sightings.
Why is the belief that we are not alone so difficult a concept? Mathematically that’s pretty much an impossible conclusion. And if there are other societies – how is it so difficult to conceive on them travelling to our planets? I mean we’re already doing it.

My reply:

All are not ready at the same time and in the same exact way to see the full truth, because the earth was set up as a school to where the potential to move up in the grades was a continuous choice. As the human “plants” make choices, depending on who they look to as their teachers determines what grades they grow through. There is nothing unscientific or illusionary or supernatural in the facts of this design but it wasn’t set up as an easy school to graduate from because the Physical Evolutionary Level Above Human Older Members, last incarnate in the names Ti and Do don’t need new members to their society so they make it very difficult to graduate BUT fully accomplishable by anyone who seeks their help step by step. Ti and Do taught that the first 6 grades entailed getting into the human kingdom to where a human might be at the top of their game, have everything going for them – successes in family, career, community and even might have their grave paid for and insurance policies to take care of those they loved when they are gone. But the Next Level know there is another entire strata of life that is Beyond Human just like there are levels of life beyond the mineral kingdom and the plant and animal kingdoms, so don’t want any one human to remain satisfied with grade 6 or any grade so they provide challenges that if we seek their help to manage will remove all our humanness and said accomplishments from us to give us the chance to seek the Next Level’s (Father in Heaven) help to arrive at a time when they can graduate. The student is the “soul” a literal container that holds Next Level (holy) Mind aka spirit aka “the words” – the instructions, commandments of behavior and ways that by adhering to advance us away from mammalian behaviors and ways. Our physical bodies are groomed throughout the civilization, understood now to be a genetic tree of/to life as  genuine life really only starts when we fully give ourselves to the Older Members, and especially to those who last came incarnate even after they have exited that incarnation, as is the case with Ti and Do who exited as seen by the world as the Heaven’s Gate “cult of truth”. Now the fertilizer is provided by the Next Level in the form of the Luciferian fallen angel space aliens and all the discarnates and humans who have become programmed with misinformation about the reality of this Next Evolutionary Kingdom. All this will be verified to each who asks by projecting theri asking for the truth to their “Father in the literal heavens” who has crews assigned to pay attention to but it must be more than a casual request and it’s best to project that request as far from earth as can be imagined, beyond where any human equivilent space aliens or humans can go.

comment on article:

Don’t disagree with you about other possible life forms but traveling the distance is but impossible.

my reply:

There is current physics that suggests the speed of light isn’t the fastest traverse of distance. It’s the basic idea behind a black or worm hole that my teachers Ti and Do said in 1975 before there was any public talk of worm holes that there were highways in space. Humans used to think space was a vacuum and now it’s known that it’s not, but what if a worm hole was a vacuum – empty of all particle matter. Then if a physical object went inside it there would be zero resistance  to come out in another area instantaneously that if you didn’t take that highway would take you hundreds or thousands of earth years to traverse. This was also talked about by Bob Lazar who says he got the idea from a book he was shown when he was reportedly given a task by Oppenheimer to back engineer how a “ufo” they had was powered. That was in the late 1970’s and since then it’s called “bending time and space” and can be understood by picturing “space” as a piece of fabric. If that fabric is flat to get from point A to B would take such and such a time frame. but if you folded the fabric in such a way that it’s two extremities were brought together and were touching one another, one could see the concept.

comment on article:

Sure, it’s all just a coincidence that they look like modern day UFO’s. Ok, and I’m Mickey Mouse. If they’ve been here and those are their ships and their beams of light then I’d say they have a vested interest in our species. Earth would be a zoo to them, a petri dish if you will. They would look at us a little differently than we look at insects.

Imagine for a minute how people would react if they found out that humans are not the “Alpha Species” on earth.

my reply:

If one pays attention to all the space alien contactee and abductee reports there is evidence of what you are suggesting. They want human DNA, sperm and eggs and certain elements (gold) and are pressing humans to develop modes of travel and the manufacture of elements that don’t seem to be available on earth that are used to power their craft, hence CERN and Bush’s colonization of mars and moon to find as he said, “an energy source that would boggle the mind”, as he already knew such a source existed somewhere.

comment on article:

there is real evidence of a human alien hybrid called the star child skull. its DNA returned that the mother was human but the father wasn’t and dna isn’t in any data bank. further more the star child skull has over 200 different abnarmalaties and isn’t just a a human with some kinda deformity

for better explaination and comaprisons of the starchild skull and normal skull view these 3 videos

the first video shows you the normal human skull and points out what it suppose to look like and how it works, the 2nd video is the starchild skull and how its different from normal human skull and how it would function.

http://www.its-dms.com/USA/01Shows/AnomalousSkull/sc1.htm
http://www.its-dms.com/USA/01Shows/AnomalousSkull/sc2.htm
http://www.its-dms.com/USA/01Shows/AnomalousSkull/sc3.htm

my reply:

The Evolutionary Level Above Human as I understand it from Ti and Do when they were incarnate had a number of civilizations on earth and for all intents and purposes have always existed but they said we’d have to graduate to their society from the human kingdom school to begin to understand where they came from – it’s not in our finite computer to grasp.

That hybridization is what is talked about in Genesis chapter 6 referring to the dropouts – fallen angels who were “sons of god” only because they had become “students” of the Next Level Above Human who it seems were given certain physical bodies and spacecrafts to have some limited service but them decided to break away from their “captain” – an Older Member in the Next Level and attempt to start their own “kingdom” spawning, propagating, engineering their seed with human seed to breed the Nephilim (giants and/or mighty ones, because they had knowledge that put them ahead of humans who didn’t come from that line and weren’t taught by the fallen angel “watchers” as Enoch wrote about. Notice how the Next Level Above Human “Lord” decided to wipe them out, the Nephilim because they were “spoiling” the Next Level’s development of the human species to become a physical “match” for those Souls the Next Level wanted to subject to the test of whether they could overcome/conquer, prevail against those same Luciferian fallen angel space alien – that were now imprisoned on/in the Earth, (so were no longer space aliens, except for some circulation in the very near heavens). The chief administrator, who Do said was Ti, his Older Member and thus heavenly Father incarnate in a woman’s body as shown in part in Rev 12:1, decided the earth humans had become so “violent”, defined in the Hebrew as:
chamac= violence with the implication of; acting wrongly and/or for unjust gain, even cruel, damaging, false (deceitful), injustice, as violent oppressors, unrighteous, violent (against, done), violent (dealing), wrong.

And what do we see today that Do said was the reason the human civilization needed to be recycled – they have become exceedingly violent thus as weeds needed to be eradicated, as Jesus said, the “tares” pulled up meaning getting rid of the human vehicles that were acting like the weeds, (though NOT something humans would please the Next Level to choose to do, as if they were acting according to the Lords desires, as we see people saying they are doing with regards to Christians verses Muslims), though the weeds end up doing their own spading of themselves in the eye for an eye model that is a primitive model Moses gave as a lesson step away from total predatory behaviors but what Jesus updated to say “turn the other cheek” though we see few enacting, whether claiming to be Muslim or Christian, Jew or Hindu or Buddhist, etc. – many tend to justify breaking the Lords commandment that a human should not kill another human).

comment on article:

If you study the 9 levels of the Heavenly host. The Third order of the Heavenly host is a being called a Throne. It is suppose to be a living being that flies and looks like a star moving in the Heavens. How ever this being as it is a living being has one feature that is different. In side of it can carry or ride the 2nd order of the Heavenly host. That order is the Cherubim. This order was suppose to have lead the Hebrews out of Egypt and led the 3 wise men to the Christ Child. Some where along the line the word Throne became a seat of power and the King of the land sat on it.

my reply:

Excellent observation/study. Ti and Do who said they came from outer space, were here to update the bible and fulfill prophecy and later realized they were fulfilling the Two Witnesses prophecy and said many many things to offer proof that they were indeed the Father and Jesus returned as Jesus said they would (dwell with us), said in 1975 while they were still incarnate, that the Physical Evolutionary Level Above Human aka the Kingdom of God, Kingdom in the literal heavens (outer space) made physical bodies that a graduate Soul could be assigned, like the way we as a Mind can drive our human “vehicle”. In other words they said that some of the spacecrafts were biological – living beings that were designed to be the transportation for other living beings – Members of the Next Level who also had physical bodies “grown” for their use (as they don’t have mammalian reproduction, the reason new prospective members need to outgrow propagation and sexuality, along with all their human behaviors and ways to be given a “seat” (position) on a spacecraft in a crew. You might be interested in Rev 6:8 where green mistranslated to “pale” stems from the harvest green as related to the goddess Demeter with it’s equivilent Ceres and the recent discovery of what looks like a city scape of lights on CERES by NASA that was discovered simultaneously with Pluto (Hades) (also in that verse) that showed how it looked in many ways like earth in it’s geology and has a blue atmosphere to boot. I bring this up in part because Ti and Do in 1982 directed a movie script that depicted Pluto as a Next Level base that had inside it a working model of the Earth used to monitor the real earth because the earth is their “garden” to grow new membership on. I can prove by every verse in the Revelations and all Jesus prophecy and the Old Testament writings that Ti and Do are who they said they were, who exited their incarnations with the FIRST fruit harvest in March of 1997 seen by the world as the Heaven’s gate “cult of truth” and that now we are in the start of the LAST harvest stage that is referred to as the “winepress” tribulation time of trouble stage.

comment to article:

I refuse to think that nobody in this galaxy has mastered interstellar travel. We’ve got organisms on Earth like the hydra that are practically immortal. Possibly there are beings that can conquer the vast distances at sub-light speeds, because time for them may be mostly meaningless. These paintings are definitely intriguing. Different artists from different time periods painting similar disc-shaped objects in the sky, with similar orientation and similar kinds of light being emitted from them.

my reply:

For a viewpoint that both combines all viewpoints and adds challenge to all viewpoints, you might want to check out the 25 year long history of those called Ti and Do who were behind the original widespread news story labeled the “UFO Two” in 1975 and then in 1997 the Heaven’s Gate “cult of truth”. We are in the process of seeing how all things are coming to be known though at the same time masked by confusion which is part of the Evolutionary Level Above Human’s “astronaut training program” to allow so a few who have the desire to know can strive to separate the truth from the mis-truth, reality from fiction and illusion that is allowed as part of the testing criteria because the Next Level wants all to have their free will during their tiny life span and they don’t need new members so make the bar very high to rise to, to get the cream of the crop so to speak.

comment to article:

Any art student can tell you the two small “craft” with humans inside represent the sun and the moon. Look it up, don’t just believe me. If you look at the edges of the 3 tiered cloud you can see angels peering over. Just representing one of the heavens.

Another comment to the above comment:

I agree that those particular items may represent the sun and the moon. The crescent seems to be represented on the smaller of the two. But it is EXTREMELY UN Christian to represent the Sun and Moon being piloted by … “Gods”?

my reply:

Good point because Christian doesn’t equal the corner of the market on the truth. In fact it can be shown that Christians largely have been led to believe in a very distorted view of all that Jesus represented and taught and did and have thus become their own dreaded anti-christ because christing was a “process” that led to “overcoming the human evolutionary kingdom” as an application into membership in the Evolutionary Level Above Human, spoken of as the Kingdom of Gods and Kingdom in the literal heavens, (because their abode/dwellings are among the planets and stars, even inside them. I would suggest that one of those images looks more like a comet that we now know is not just a dirty ice ball by far as there appears to be many characteristics that show very intelligent design to them. For instance the hale bopp comet is now understood by some scientists to have had TWO Nucleus in orbit around one another. The only two bodies seen as having that kind of synchronistic orbit, locked together as opposed to one orbiting the other just happens to be between Pluto and Charon. Then the idea of one being the moon is interesting in the prophecy of Rev 12:1 that says:

Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

“moon (brilliant attraction) under (placed under/beneath) her feet (footstool)”

From this verse I suspected that the moon was a “base” the Level Above Human was using, from which it was a tool (footstool) to help provided “light” (brilliance and attractiveness) to, so humans could use to step up from and it was “placed” in earth oribt to serve as that footstool. It wasn’t until years later that I came upon Do (of Ti and Do) saying they felt the moon was placed there by the Next Level. Ti and Do evidence being the Father and Jesus returned who since have left their incarnation as seen originally as the UFO Two and then as the founders of the Heaven’s Gate “cult of truth”. They were never scripture quoters and didn’t teach out of the bible but said they were “from the same family as Jesus was from” that they awakened to largely in 1973 which is all very well documented amidst a huge amount of misinformation about them.
But I imagine the painter of that picture was drawing from this and other bible verses that the Next Level Crew can observe and help steer him to providing more accuracy to, for the purpose of uplifting humans in their consciousness about the reality of the Next Evolutionary Level that today sees religion and spirituality and even atheism as all “killers of souls” because they all are laden with misinformation, but for a few who see through parts of the misinformation are part of that footstool to the truth.
It is also interesting that the Hale Bopp comet was photographed by a Japanese astronomer that showed there was a “companion” object with it as one can tell the difference between it, the comet and the stars by the way the more distant objects appear more oblong while only the comet and this other object were distinguishably less oblong because of the way light is photographed differently when the object is further away. As is the Next Level’s way, though, they seemed to then hide that companion when they went behind the sun to emerge with three tails, unheard of before then but also evidenced having two nucleus.

comment to article:

Could be but there can be other interpretations as well such as alchemical. Seeing metals with rays of light can have other interpretations . i.e. , seven metals of the earth, silver for the Moon, quicksilver for …. seven rays, or seven fluidic forces that work through the metals of the earth-the coming together of soul and spirit, etc.. Unfortunately we are programmed today to see all this phenomena as a material manifestation which is one of several viewpoints and why the mark is always missed interpretively. The man in the light can represent man’s astral being imagined and even prophetic to a extent of future travel but not necessarily materialistically literal . Also on higher planes one can have imaginations based on memory. We remember material existence so we see butterflies, clothed people, buildings and those are our projections. That is why religions stress purity… i can go on.
my reply:

The reality I believe is that there are two essential components to our reality – frequency based and physical based that word in concert with one another and also have degrees of independence from one another. So to look for an explanation that is all one or the other is a limited explanation to consider. There is a huge amount of evidence of the physical universe right and to date we now have a huge amount of evidence of the frequency universe – that which we don’t automatically perceive with our normal senses. Ti and Do taught that there could be physical beings on a planet that NASA can be looking at and just not see because of the frequency these other beings vibrate on that is not detectible by humans. Part of this is what Jesus demonstrated by appearing and disappearing after he healed the human body he took after being killed so he could prove to his students he was still “flesh and bone” and yet could choose to not be visible to them which I see as likened to a chameleon that in this case can by will change the way light reflects off their cells (in that example just the outside skin cells but in the case of the designers of all these life forms can change every cell). I believe it’s part of the misinformation campaign to see things in only the frequency basis. When we pay attention to what Ti and Do taught all the pieces of the puzzle fall into place but it takes many adjustments in our consciousness to do because it’s all frankly Beyond human though to date more and more is becoming evident through sciences.

and yes, all the symbolism in history shows relationships in art and film and new thoughts and discoveries on earth, inside the earth and seas and on different planets to include the mythology, etc. because the Next Level sees to making sure links are provided so those most in pursuit of the truth find parts of it. The ones who never stop in that search yet learn to identify the constancy to Living Beings who are evolutionarily above human and above space aliens become the ones who can become prospective members of the Next Level if they align with the most recent incarnations, to date Ti and Do, but who are fully consistent with all Jesus taught and updated that Moses taught as this is all part of the schooling and birthing of new members to the Next Level.

Atlanta Green Asteroid=Sign of NASA disinformation re: CERES LIGHTS

December 19, 2015

Last week, NASA announced publicly that what they called the “bright spots” on Ceres in the Ocular Crater were some type of magnesium salts. Now people are lining up behind that announcement as a fact, as usual, because that’s what they want to believe. I even saw long-term ufologist and author, Linda Moulton Howe support NASA’s announcement. She rose to UFO fame by documenting in books the many cow mutilations in Colorado, Oklahoma, Wyoming, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Utah and Montana, etc. that had been reported/investigated starting in the early to mid 1970’s that the FBI even sought to question Ti and Do about when they gave a public meeting in Colorado in 1975, thinking the then called UFO Cult could have been responsible which couldn’t have been further from the truth. She is a regular guest on Coast to Coast radio.

As a side note, around late 1987 when Do started considering going public for the second time after nearly 17 years of silence, he had us form a little video company with a steering committee that consisted of Lggody, Jwnody, Chkody, Dncody, Alxody, Srrody and Swyody. Lggody and Jwnody researched and bought two video cameras and went to several UFO conferences, one being a well-known annual one in Arkansas, perhaps Littlerock, while we lived up Boulder Canyon in Colorado. At the conference they interviewed and filmed several like Linda Moulten Howe and a Brit with the last name of English and also contacted Whitley Streiber and others. We didn’t end up doing anything with that footage but it led to Do’s attempting to figure out what Ti would have him do as was the Next Level way to ask and then try things that occurred to us or we were led to, like by observing media reports and such, after asking. Soon after that Do wrote “’88 update – The UFO Two and Their Crew” which we mailed out to a number of organizations and people.

To me this is clearly a spin as was always expected as NASA was careful not to show many of the pictures they took on this latest article and neglected to talk about the tests they did on the “lights” to determine whether they were a light source or an element reflection and at least one of the two “bright spots” was determined to be a light source. Also NASA avoided the truth about how the Dawn spacecraft first was scheduled to go to CERES – as the Hubble had taken photos of what looked like one very bright light on Ceres in 2003 and 2004 from several angles. If they were salts, how would a mere reflection of light be visible to that large degree to be seen from Hubble at 347-400 miles from Earth and thus 256+ million miles from Ceres without having a significant power source behind it to project it that far with that degree of brightness. Of course on this score, what humans don’t know they can use to their advantage if it’s in their interest to do so. They can always say it’s an element and natural emanation because of the equivalent of volcanic activity or some equivalent – something they can leave unresolved. Leaving it unresolved is fine of course as that’s the most reasonable thing to do, so why did they have to leave that position and say it’s salts unless they want to use that idea in some way. NASA is not a casual organization and became part of the department of defense during this current 21st century so unless something is genuinely leaked, which can also be directed or stimulated or allowed on purpose, it has a reason to come to the public eye or not and how it comes public.

So I suspect the Next Level stimulated this “green fireball/asteroid” near the NASA hq’s in Atlanta to enlighten what they did so that people like me who know the Next Level’s reality and follow all this space and space alien activity can point out the discrepancies in the story/observations for the sake of any who are interested in the truth to consider.

I have to admit when NASA came out with this report of the “bright spots” as salts this last time, as some suggested it in July amid the many pictures that were analyzed, though I was fairly certain due to prophecy I was analyzing at the time, regarding the “green horse” of Revelations 6 that is about to come to the fore with the next presidential election – as a part of the 7th Trump of revelations, to where what comes with this 4th horse (human vehicle) is “death” that is shown in all ways and we see being stimulated in the increases of disturbances of all kinds because of the way “truth” and Next Level reality as it comes to the fore also stimulates humans to act in all passionate (fires) ways that includes unbridled violence against themselves and others, I wondered whether the bright spots were put there or revealed by the Next Level to be seen by Hubble and could actually be some type of element’s projection of light, even the elements several countries are now looking for and trying to manufacture in places like CERN to use to power the anti-gravity spacecrafts they received from space aliens and their own models.

And even though that may be the case that these are some type of element, call it a salt, I think the Next Level Older Members and Crew (Ti and Do, and student body) do what they do in such a way to allow humans to have any interpretation they want as that then becomes an avenue for those who are the biggest seekers to have a sense of the ultimate truths which they can only really have if the Next Level gave them, perhaps as a baby a deposit of their Mind to be able to see the truth when it’s provided even though even to those it will remain a puzzle to consider.

It’s not about having absolute answers when it comes to things like this. Even if we did have what we might think is an absolute answer, if our mind was not geared to look for the creators (Next Level) in it, then it would soon diminish as an absolute answer and would fade into imagination and of no value to the Next Level as what they are doing is nurturing those they chose to help choose what they wanted that these events in space, among the sun, moon, planets, stars, etc. become “sign posts” of.

So when this asteroid was shot across the bow of Atlanta, presumably NASA and looked GREEN to people who saw it, to go with the Green (harvest) horse and all the other GREEN aspects to our times as related to Revelations 6:8 that by the way was translated inaccurately as “pale” in that verse, it seemed to me to be a sign that relate all this to whoever is interested to consider it.

By the way, there have been many lights seen all over Ceres all the more reason to believe the entire planet may very well be a Next Level base meant to be seen when the technology on Earth was able to see it (Hubble) and go to it to examine closer while still remaining a puzzle that provides the full range of choices for all of us to consider.

http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2015/12/18/meteor-fireball-terrorizes-georgia-res

Having read this article as I always do I review the comments and found this one below that I commented to.

Commenter on article:

is that not true a big asteroid has destroyed the life of dinosaurs on the earth? some big craters are clearly visible on the different parts of the earth. its is also observed that Mars had a very advanced life but they were suddenly removed due to a big disaster, what was that? last week curiosity sent a picture showing that a big asteroid of the size of a huge mountain was collided with the surface of Mars which has been destroyed the life on the Mars planet..
it is time to turn our faces towards Almighty Allah and it is time to read Holy Book of Quran to recognized the truth. In Quran we can find many generations which were destroyed on the earth and the reasons of their destruction and crimes.

Sawyers reply to comment:

The Luciferian space aliens are the fallen angels Enoch, Moses, Isaiah and Jesus, Gautama Buddha, Mohammad (I don’t know the Quran or the Bhagavad Gita that well so can’t site specific things these said about fallen angels or “jin”), spoke about and who (Luciferians) always twisted the truth, what is real into religions when the reality is that the Creators no matter what terms we use to talk about them, Allah, Elohim, Theos, God were referring to a “many membered (physically represented angels, archangels) kingdom Above Human, actually evolutionarily above, just like plant is above mineral and animal above plant and human above animal, there is yet another strata of genuine life who created it all but who also use physical bodies they grow (made not begotten) in their environments on spacecrafts that make UFO reports of metallic crafts look primitive, whose spacecrafts can even be “living beings” as evidenced by Ezekiel’s writings and related to the Book of Revelations as well. Humans and Earth is The Kingdom of God(s) from the literal heavens (sky-outer space) experiment to grow souls to become new members of their society/community – genuine Family.
The fact that this asteroid was reported as making a huge  green flash over Atlanta at this time is a sign to me and especially since NASA just distorted the truth about the “lights” on Ceres where Ceres (Roman) like Demeter (Greek) refers to the goddess of the harvest that is coming into full fruition with the next U.S. presidential election that coincides with the “green horse” of Rev 6:8 following the black/blue (democratic) horse that is being fulfilled by Barak Obama with the endless financial crisis and the red/ruddy (republican) horse fulfilled by G.W. Bush with endless global war on terror (they (US and allies) stimulated in Iraq, Afghanistan and many places in the middle east – especially since the start of the 20th century), though everyone has responsibility for propagating since the start of the current civilization.
I have a huge amount to say about this because it’s clear to me that those called the Father and Jesus already returned in the new physical human bodies who took the names Ti and Do, a Woman (Rev 12) and male, her “son” she births to the throne, this being the One who last served in the physical vehicle named Jesus.
I mean no disrespect for the Quran and Mohammad, but the full truth is that Jesus was the last one (before Ti and Do) to provide the most truth about the reality of what Ti and Do referred to in plainer terms (as Jesus said he would upon his return) “The Evolutionary Level Above Human”.
Ti and Do have since left their incarnations (in carnal=in the flesh as/like the “son of man” (offspring human, man faced, blood in face) as they came to take their first fruits through their “spirit birth” – actually graduation from the human evolutionary kingdom but they are still working closely with all who can SEE/HEAR them through their 25 years of what they said and did.
I can prove what I say by ALL the prophecy and would like to expand that to all the prophecy in the Quran if someone could help me with it since I don’t  have it’s contents on my mind like I do the Torah and New Testament prophecies.
It’s interesting that you use a white horse in your icon. Do (doe, from the notes of the song the sound of music – the Rev 14 “song”) came sitting on a “white horse” which had a “white head and hair” physical human vehicle – the people that largely came from Magog, the third who migrated from the Kingdom of Juda and spread out their genes throughout the world, but mostly to Europe and then to the U.S. for the location of the Kingdom of God’s return as Jesus indicated would not be to the middle east again because they always killed those sent to that location. He took this white vehicle to overcome/conquer it – perhaps the “race” that had become the most Luciferian in behavior and ways, though all humans are under the programming from the Luciferian fallen angel space aliens, though are all given equal chances to rise out of as one must overcome all racial consciousness and ethnic consciousness and religious identity and human mammalian behaviors and ways to graduate into the Level Above Human via the direction from the Older Members who come incarnate from that Kingdom and who always talk about what’s required to graduate that is always twisted into a country club like religion but that acts as a filter of those who are ready to “purify” (make white as in holy/light) – not racial coloration to become students towards their graduation, which today will be by going through the “winepress”.
There is so much to say but they exited (Ti and Do and their 38+4 first fruit true “saints” their incarnations in march of 1997 seen by the world over as the Heaven’s Gate “cult of truth” – the ONLY total truth group. They layed down their lives completely voluntarily as I can prove as I was with them for 19 years but failed to graduate my class but was given another chance via their coming to me in dreams to help me. Anyway I am nobody except in how I can be a servant of Ti and Do until I leave. You can find Ti and Do’s information all over the internet – youtube.
Overcoming is actually a metamorphosis like the caterpillar to a butterfly. It does require at least beginning to separate from the human caterpillar world. The task today is to learn all about Ti and Do and believe everything they said and taught and believe that they are the latest representatives from the creators’ kingdom who created everything and all life forms and then to “take a stand in defense of that belief and sustain that stand until our exit of our physical vehicle no matter how that occurs, accepting the consequences of doing so”.
There is no group to join, no person on earth to follow, nothing to buy, no government to support. The most proof of what I say will only be provided to those who ask our Father in the literal heaven’s in deep outer space where no humans or space aliens are permitted for the truth and then watch for the hints of proof that will be given and choose their recognition from the One True Kingdom of God, Level Above Human. Peace be unto you, the peace of our Heavenly Fathers, the peace of Ti and Do.

What Ti and Do (“Jesus”) might say about Trump wanting to keep Muslims out of America

December 12, 2015

Here is my response to a post that asks the question of whether Republican presidential candidate Donald J. Trump was right about a law banning Muslims from America. I tried to give what I hope might be what Ti and Do might say. The link to the article is below for those that want to see what others say. I left a comment but I didn’t actually read the article. I just went by the title to respond:

From what Ti and Do taught; I believe the Luciferian space alien perspective of maintaining law and order that Lucifer and his fellow “fallen angels” seek to maintain on earth, it’s “just” (right). But from the perspective of the Evolutionary Level Above Human who created the earth and all it’s life forms, as their “hothouse”, to grow minds/souls upon towards new membership in their society of Beings, it’s not right (just) because it imposes limitations to how the souls and human evolutionary level minds/spirits in their “garden” can migrate away from their human root systems and war torn environments to seek a better life. (As Jesus said about the “son of man” (offspring man-faced (human)):

Mat 8:19 And a certain scribe came, and said unto him, Master, I will follow thee whithersoever thou goest.
Mat 8:20 And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.

A Member of the Next Level who is incarnate in a human vehicle would not be comfortable staying put and outgrow relating to their human root system – family as they know they are related to a different family of Above Human Beings like themselves as their Family, not the relations to the vehicle they borrow for their task. Thus the Next Level working with Souls and the human vehicles the souls are planted within foster events that break up human families and disrupt normalcy to stimulate further growth towards some becoming graduates out of the human evolutionary kingdom.

In other words, the object in the garden is to raise minds/spirits through human flesh by subjecting them to adversity that stimulates their quest for something better that if they continue to thirst for, as Jesus taught, which, that adversity is the salt in the garden, will draw more of what is real to them which must be continued throughout that mind/spirits experience in the human kingdom over many lifetimes (each leaf on the genetic tree is one of those lifetimes – the leaf dies each season but the tree retains all the leaf experienced in it’s genetic database it produces new leaves from to continue the growth pattern of that branch).  All the space aliens are like “fallen trees” – from whatever planet or earth civilization past, souls (planting into the human or equivilent tree) who sprouted and were given a partially evolved Next Level vehicle before they chose to go against the Older Member’s instructions and began to cohabitate and/or use humans for their hybridization of human experiments to foster their own “kingdom” on earth. They had many chances to change/recover from that fall but did not, so the Next Level decided to use what they wanted to do, to put other souls in their equivilent schooling stage towards adult membership in the Next Level to the test, to gain strength of Next Level (holy) Mind/Spirit by dealing with and conquering, prevailing against, sort of like the Star Trek Holodeck as a training program that if they succeeded could be awarding a Next Level Adult vehicle (body) grown on a vine (no longer from mammalian reproduction) that they would have outgrown desire for.

That’s what was meant by an Israeli, (he who “prevails as Jehovah”) a human seeded by the Next Level (receives a soul deposit, a container like a seed with programs in it to provide interface and the sense of Beings who are Above  the Human Kingdom in every way) that by receiving continued nourishment from incarnate Older Members – adhering to each lesson plan, that are like trimesters toward their spirit/mind birth – the Moses classroom and possibly Gautama Buddha’s classroom (because of how it taught renunciation of the (human) world’s norms) and then Jesus classroom (that taught how discipleship involved severing of genetic roots in behavior and ways) and to date Ti and Do’s third trimester classroom, that those souls already graduated from but that we are still potentially engaged in, to degrees or not, yields growth of each soul to be ready for the next re-incarnation (re- taking over of a human vehicle – aka to “stand up again” (re-generate) of that Older Member (that is not scheduled before the civilization undergoes a spading under that includes a dissolving of the “sprirt world” and a re-jailing of the Luciferians, which is what humans now are preparing for without much knowledge of who is coming to perform the recycling procedures. The space aliens try to win souls to their camp by pitting souls against the Next Level by referring to them as the Reptilians and/or Orion’s (greys) who have no ability to alter the earth’s usefulness to the Next Level until the Next Level allows it to happen for the sake of the difficult lesson plan they help their “seed” through because overcoming the Luciferian influence on humans would be impossible without that help.

So the Luciferians, who are the space races who themselves are in competition with one another over the spoils of the planet, those souls who have decided not to be in a Next Level program, because they can’t create a soul pocket/container/seed but have no other way to add to their ranks – as souls can be taught to move in and out of vehicles and to see as they see, though to be in their camp means they have disconnected from the Next Level camp. These space races pit humans against humans because of how it drives the increase in technologies they need to try to get off the planet to find another life habitat and/or certain elements they have in very limited supply to date that powers their spacecrafts (that are primitive crafts to the Next Level, though have things they can do that human’s are still trying to duplicate, and may to some degree accomplish before recycling is underway that will set them back in further development) and/or build safe harbor from recycling they know is pending underground and/or under the seas or on a near space base as they can’t travel very far away from earth anymore for lack of a life sustaining/promoting atmosphere.

Thus the warring is used by the Next Level because those who seek to escape it are those who put the value of their lives above fighting for their root system – security, homelike, status quo humanness, genetic family, lands, livelihood which is to the Next Level a good step for them to take as they can then become the spirits and genetic strains that the Next Level uses to re-populate the civilization from, like Jesus referred to the “meek who shall inherit the earth”. The graduates leave the earth and after the waste reduction of the humans who became the fodder of the space alien race wars – even assisting the Next Level’s spading (pulling up of the Tares the look alike wheat planted by the Luciferian space aliens in the garden – their seed). By leave the earth it’s referring to being “saved”, Do called being “put on ice” (not literally) but kept safe from the recycling and garbage (weed) disposal. (by the way we in human vehicles don’t have the ability to know who is a weed or not so it’s no appropriate for us to judge who should die – that became distorted in the records, though the Next Level can save any spirit or soul who has lost their vehicle like by accident or as a victim of war and crime. The vehicle is designed to be disposable. Only the Next Level can destroy a soul though a Luciferian space alien can turn a soul away from the Next Level but the Next Level doesn’t let that happen easily without giving each soul many, many opportunities to come back to their allegiance. The Next Level does not need new members. It’s their joy to provide what they know they have – real genuine physical and mental life in a perpetual growth and service society that show their love for one another by their common Next Level Mind (holy spirit) connection to their Older Members, the Ones who parented them into their membership in the Next Level.

http://www.starshipearththebigpicture.com/2015/12/11/is-trump-right-about-a-law-banning-muslims-from-america-video/

Signs in the MOON, as Jesus said would be occurring at this time

October 7, 2014

Below you will find a link to a youtube video of the examination of an object seen in a NASA moon photo. It may be nothing but then it may be one of the Signs Jesus spoke about.

I only post this because I have been wondering if there would be more claims of seeing things on the moon, as we’ve seen many things related to the Sun that are unexplained and never seen before that don’t look anything like what we think of as “naturally occurring, having unusual puzzle piece shapes, etc. and we have seen many unusual characteristics with hale bopp comet that are still being studied globally to try to sort out how they could be – like having two nucleus in orbit around one another and with comet ison’s looking like a flying wing with 7 parts, 3 in each wing and 1 as the front of the wing, which is described in the book of revelations as belonging to one of the four “living beings” mistranslated as “beasts”, a convenient form, innocent or not, of misinformation dissemination. And of course the rash of fireballs, near miss asteroids, meteor explosion over that Siberian town in Russia and comet pan starrs that also had a mysterious object associated with it flying immediately ahead of the comet. But the moon, except for the whistleblower fellow named Hoagland that claims evidence of a huge structure, like a gridwork enveloping the moon, while also claiming lots of mars activity with US and Alien cooperation that I frankly don’t’ see evidence of at least during this current civilization, there has been little more than what looks like a light in a crater, that could be a reflection and shapes of rocks like are seen on Mars that could be rocks, etc..

This latest post is interesting and nothing more at this point. However, it’s probably not going to get much more defined because if these are “signs” from the people that developed the Earth into a life filled environment then part of their design is to present just enough evidence so that those with the greatest desire to know the truth will seek it out, be willing to consider it, not discount everything out of hand and be curious enough to want to explore more. That’s not to say someone who does not have that desire is any lessor of a person for not being that curious. It’s not for anyone to say or judge what someone should or could do with their life. That’s why it’s “free will”. So with my free will, I look at all this and come to believe some as most likely either from humans, even as hoaxes, or of late drones or space aliens, but mostly in cases of terrestrial things like crop circles and cattle mutilations and abductions and contactees and sightings of metallic looking crafts, etc. or the only other choice, from those that like I said built the Earth environment into the life habitat for the evolutionary process of birthing to their ranks new members. What is birthed is the Soul container given to certain ones of their choosing and that if someone wants can ask them for as that is the criteria, projecting our asking beyond the stars where aliens and spirits can’t intercept. Christians who think their “god” is going to take their body into the sky are in a deep illusion, even though aliens might want their bodies for “parts” and hormones, so won’t they be surprised if they are taken and put in a cell to use for experimentation. It will be too late to rethink who they are looking to as their “god”. Person to person, I have no idea at all who is considered by these Next Level beings as a prospective candidate for a future birth opportunity but I do know no one is going to qualify if they don’t ask them for help to qualify as they are practical and again operating on the free will basis. If we don’t ask they don’t want to fool with us and that asking must develop into something regular and I’m not pretending it must be in the form of words, at least at the early stages but it will grow to be in words as a Mind starts to recognize more and more of their Mind, thinking, behaviors and ways, in us that then begins to build into a degree of knowing just how real they are that is the real basis of what was called “faith” – as “evidence of things unseen” that many are coming more and more to terms with because of various life experiences. We are all in a hothouse and it’s heating up more and more in all ways and we can’t change that but we can change and that’s part of the “game” so to speak, to change, to progress to identify more with those who literally created our reality lock stock and barrel (and who are NOT space aliens) as they are evolutionarily above human.

With all that said, here is the post that may be one of the prophesied “signs in the Sun, Moon and Stars”:

http://youtu.be/wFI7Iome7Fc

Q and A-What we did for fun and R and R in Ti and Do’s Next Level Classroom

March 29, 2014

First off, I’m not annoyed by any questions and if I don’t want to respond I won’t, but thank you for the consideration. That’s a Next Level characteristic.

Well first off, fun is in the eye of the beholder as I’m sure you know. For many people if they aren’t doing something physical they aren’t having much fun. Others can sit at a computer all day and be totally satisfied. Accomplishing things, working together and being with Ti and Do were all fun, though not so much the laughing kind, though we had plenty of that too. With that said, here are the things that Ti and Do provided that were both relaxing and/or fun and/or stimulating, both in physical and mental ways:

At first when living outdoors in National Forests or on BLM land or by leasing space on huge ranches in Wyoming and to some degree in Texas, whenever we had spare time we would play games Ti and Do provided. Silly kids games like Stratego and Battleship and Yatzee and when we had a generator we could play “pac man” and with an antenna could pick up TV shows sometimes, broadcast from Laramie just 20 miles away for example. They would provide certain shows that didn’t generally stimulate our past; game shows like price is right and jeopardy.

They would sometimes give each partnership some money with a plan to all go to town to blow it. They called it “mad money”. We could go to a movie or get treats. It was up to the partnership and/or car full to decide what to do with it and as people made choices and they were reported as was also the procedure Ti and Do would provide guidelines.

We were all buying our own food then too, each partnership receiving an monies for. I remember among some making fudge was a favorite passtime.

Once we lived in houses in the 1980’s we had TV two or three times a week for a couple hours that included shows like:

Columbo
murder she wrote
star trek
news

And we’d get videos and every other week would have outings to a movie theatre or a trip to another city when Ti and Do had quarters separate from the main student body. During our two night visits we’d usually see a movie on one day and go to the zoo or a museum on the other day as well has have a few special meetings with Ti and Do.

In the crafts (houses) Ti and Do at one point brought in a slew of astrology books and gave some guidelines. It was considered to be an optional game and we were not to do natal charts on ourselves or others as they said, our charts don’t apply to us anymore as we are disconnecting from the influences we were born into and they didn’t want us to be self focused. We mostly did horary charts and event charts. I was one that gravitated to astrology and years later Ti and Do had us open up what would be called a new age center called Astrologics in Amarillo, Texas where we provided astrological services to the public. Some did do natal charts then for clients I did progressions for those clients as well. We also offerred talks on ghosts and just about anything paranormal or philosophical that students would choose to provide. We had a meditation room and some did stained glass work. Ollody began drawing and painting and was quite proficient with an airbrush. As Ti and Do had started a movie project in the 1980’s a script was written and ollody did illustrations and then painting. They were going to start up a music program and wow did I get exciting about that as did a few other students but it never happened and though disappointed in a sense, I no longer needed to play music. Astrologics didn’t last but a few months before Ti and Do felt instructed to move to a different city and we never started up such a project again.

After Ti left her vehicle in 1985, we continued with the movie project, trying to get hollywood backing.

Meanwhile Do started up a diet for health program that focused on the muscousless diet of Dr Christopher. A crew wrote a book called the Transfiguration Diet based on our research and another talented artist did the illustrations of little green men teaching how to eat for optimal health. That was only the start of dietary reseach which included extensive fasting and growing our own foods, sprouts that we nearly lived on for a while.

We had a small organic foods company for a short time.

We had a video company for a while. Some would go to ufo conferences and record different speakers there. It never went anywhere from that except to create the “beyond human” series.

During these times in the 1980’s and moreso in the 1990’s we lived in huge mansions all over the southwest U.S. often having indoor and/or outdoor swimming pools, tennis courts, indoor squash court, exercise machines and routines to take regular walks. In one location we had a an 1/8 mile long track that a few of us gravitated to running on and we had volley ball.

With eveything we did we were learning how to do it in the ways of a member of the Next Level and we would often fail and something would be discontinued, even if it was just one or two that couldn’t restrain themselves. For instance the volleyball. Some males just couldn’t resist spiking the ball. Ti and Do taught that the object was not to beat the others side but to see how long you could both keep the ball from hitting the ground while sticking to the rules of the game. That was more of a next level way they taught. The running was becoming a sensual outlet for some, me included so was discontinued.

At one point they brought in music – Kitaro and gilbert and sullivan and various classical pieces. And they said we could listen to the classical station on the radio when in the car. Again, some couldn’t restrain themselves and would get off too much on the music so would become an escape so would be discontinued for a while and brought back at another time, even if just one or two were getting into it in a human way.

The same with swimming, tennis.

We did some growing of food.

We had birds for a while and in one location where we were living on a farm, a farm cat had kittens which we birthed and cared for and we had a couple dogs for a short time too.

At that property we had our own little lake and Do got us a boat that we could go out on.

We had very nice menu’s when we weren’t on a fasting or on some type of cleansing diet that included tira misu and italian wedding cake and pies and cookies.

One Christmas we began singing in a choir with Do as our leader. Ti said this would help us “look to Do” better. Ti always said she came to get Do started and then she would go back. (Rev 12 depicts this clearly as well as lots of things).

we sang christmas carols and were considering taking it to the streets. that christmas which ended up being right before Ti left, was the only year we actually had a type of celebration. We had a tree and each partnership was given money to by gifts. The gifts were not for one another but for the “craft” (household). We made a special menu and lots of treats and a tiny bit of decoration and had a tiny bit of wine as an experiment. Do said he didn’t like the way it made him feel so we didn’t do that again after that.

This is a nutshell account. It wasn’t about having no pleasures. It was about having the pleasures that our teachers gave us and learning to experience them in the way of a member of the Next Level.

What Ti and Do’s ‘BEYOND HUMAN’ means. Defining Gods Jealousy and wrath

March 26, 2014

Ti and Do didn’t really teach right and wrong in terms about this or that belief. They simply said in so many words, if you want to go to the Next Level, to be on their team, work on a crew, the rules are thus and so. They didn’t debate. However they are very clear that there is opposition to them, who manipulate information to both make them out to be something they are not – evil, manipulative, dictatorial, jealous wrathful gods looking to control humans and then to the other extreme of no one required to do anything to be like them, the entire “Jesus did it for us”, syndrome, so we don’t have to also do what he did, which is also prevalent thought among many Christians, various new age religious/spiritual groups and new agers as well – God loves all of us and all of us will be ushered into heaven on earth if we “let it be”, don’t try to make it happen, or meditate enough on peace and love, the Lennon syndrome. (don’t get me wrong, I like peace and love, or better said, Kindness/gentleness/compassion and giving, but these are behavioral characteristics taught by the Next Level, but not so much the development of a mind muscle that can stick to a program that prepares one to be trusted to work for the Next Level without getting in the way of aspects of “garden” experiments of growing souls to choose to also gravitate to such a program in a stepwise fashion. The Next Level provides the “astronaut training” like program which has been equated to a “war” because the lower forces who were once in such a program chose to renegade from the program and those administering it, so the Next Level Older members decided to subject other students at the station of the renegades to the renegades in which they could then decide for themselves who to give themselves to.

Now Ti and Do, do teach right and wrong when it comes to what is real and what is not, what information is truthful and what is lies and misinformation, so in that way they are absolute because they know all about the planets and garden plots they design and they know all about the creatures they grow on those planets that they designed, so to deny so would be lying to portray that they don’t know because some take offense when someone says they know. If our reality was created, using evolutionary processes and big bangs galore with built in adaptations galore and recycling so current creatures only have clues to past experiments on Earth and/or other planets, etc., then someone has to KNOW the truth about it all. If on the other hand, it’s all come about by random response to stimuli with no plausible explanation for a beginning of at least our little corner of the solar system, which to me is total science fiction and about as ignorant a belief as driving a car to a tribe in some jungle where they never saw a car, if that is possible anymore, and telling them the car evolved by itself over millions of years to be a car. Because of how far fetched that is, though to even some so called intelligent humans, they don’t see the correlation or better yet don’t want to see it, or perhaps don’t have any living seed in them any longer to see it – the seed they once had that all living creatures have a degree of atrophied from lack of usage so now it’s no longer capable of functioning, which renders that creature by their own choice unable to change and thus evolve beyond what they have become regardless of how much data they can display that makes them look smart to other humans.

re: “levels beyond human” – since those are terms when put together were designed by Ti and Do, though they spoke of them as evolutionary and physical, two huge descriptors that set their thinking a part from all others, though all others have smatterings of that thinking, no being can be “beyond human” unless they are taught what beyond human is and that can’t be taught by a human, though it appears to be because it comes through humans by The Older Members coming in such a way that humans can not detect them, as “spirits”. And because of that it was thought that Spirits are the entities that are “beyond human” so it must be a spiritual environment. However, this is misinformation and where that is evident is in the information that became available beyond the theoretical or philosophical or spiritual or mystical the demonstrated the differences of what constitutes “human” and what doesn’t and that took place with the so called “ufo crashes” that occurred in the 1940’s and 1950’s that had physical bodies in them that were in tact enough that they could be autopsied and proved that beings existed in these flying saucers that were not human because they didn’t have human organs common to every, not only human but every animal. A few of the bodies had no reproductive nor digestive systems and a few others had atrophied reproductive systems and had a different type of “flesh” as well.

When one takes that information believe it or not and then examines the core of what Jesus taught – that one to be his disciple needed to “leave all behind” of their human life to be with that “teacher” more or less 24/7 and that they were no longer going to be thinking of themselves as having a human family as Jesus demonstrated denying his mother brothers were his family, saying that fellow believers were his family, which included leaving behind children (not abandoning them, but seeing to it that they had someone who would love them and raise them), but that they could not join because they would not have engaged in human behaviors enough if at all, depending on their age and experience to choose to deny themselves those forms of human sensuality – sensory stimulus that the Older Members would begin to wean them from needing and wanting, IF THESE DISCIPLES CHOSE TO STAY IN THE OFFERED PROGRAM. Plus, one would be willing to even sacrifice their human vehicle, another totally inhumane thing to do, but not as some ritual and certainly not imposed on anyone else nor pressured into doing so, but simply recognizing how one will have to “overcome/conquer, prevail against” all their otherwise normal human behaviors and ways, to pass through the birth canal into membership in the Next evolutionary level, but only by instigating each step according to the way the incarnate Older Member provided, not using their own mind to do so, which is another way the charlatans stimulate that become sects of different religious groups. Some of this is evidenced by Jesus saying, one could choose to make themselves a eunuch for the kingdom of God/Heaven’s sake or even loose a hand or eye IF, IF, IF they found that by keeping that hand or eye they might miss their goal of becoming a member of the Next Level, because they couldn’t otherwise keep themselves from behaviors and ways that were not overcoming their humanness. Jesus didn’t tell anyone to do any of these things but nor did he omit them as options because the entire idea of “flesh sacrifice” that hearing those words sends shutters through humans who have not grasped the full breath of what the Next Level really is, is a big part of what overcoming humanness is.

Now talking about evolution the way Ti and Do meant it had nothing to do with Darwin’s theories and had everything to do with showing that the Next Level was just as real a mental and biological environment of life forms as human, animal, plant and mineral kingdoms are. Next Level members have physical bodies they wear on a regular basis according to the tasks they have.

Another characteristic of an Evolutionary Level Above Human Member is that they don’t die even though their physical bodies can die, but nor do their physical bodies decay and die on their own. (as far as I know), though members can aspire to regular upgrades in physical bodies that have more and more function. For instance one physical body Ti and Do spoke about could even be a spacecraft. Just like we, our mind was being taught to pilot our human physical vehicles, a Next Level member could choose to be in the department of transportation so to speak and whatever other tasks could go with that as it would hardly be just a taxi service, so that they, their MInd would have that kind of vehicle that would not be a humanoid looking one for example.

But Next Level members also choose tasks when offered that entail the sacrifice of their living suit of clothing (physical vehicle) which took place when they decided to come undercover to perform the task of overcoming humanness again to show a student body how which again was what took place in some of the southwest U.S. UFO crashes, such as near Roswell, Aztec, New Mexico, Laredo, Aurora, Texas and maybe a few other locations.

Beyond human isn’t the spirit world as when a human or human equivalent space alien dies as they all do, their programming, the content of their mind, their spirit that still exists outside the flesh is still human in every way and seeks to play out their humanness by the only means they have, by influencing living humans to do their bidding. That bidding can be teaching others or being a chef or a drug addict if that’s what got them off most during life. These spirits don’t live forever and they have just as many limits as they had while a part of a physical vehicle. If they were taught they could astral travel, then they have more facility to travel around in their limited spirit world. That spirit world might extend a certain distance into what humans would consider near space even to some different planets but certainly not beyond that, if that far, as Ti and Do didn’t say that I ever heard. But even the spirit world will be dissolved in the near future according to Ti and Do and Jesus and other prophesy in various cultures.

Then there are characteristics of the human evolutionary level that are apparent in the animal evolutionary level; predators, competitions, jealousies, vengeance, manipulations, deceits and judgementalism based on another’s color, gender, shape, health, ethnicity, intelligence, philosophy/religion, social behaviors, likes and dislikes, all of which are part of the “Overcoming process” to outgrow to qualify to be a member of the Level Above Human, again not by our design but as layed out in a stepwise way by those who are from that Level Above Human. Whether someone is represented by having a human vehicle or is a spirit time sharing one or more human vehicles, whether on a spacecraft from a different planet or from Earth and/or from a previous civilization is no different to the Next Evolutionary Level Above Human Older Members. They don’t have any of these characteristics.

What was called God’s jealously was true but not in the emotional and competitive connotations of the word. Next Level Members don’t covet what others have and have no vested interest in anyone looking to them or joining their program or supporting their mindset because they don’t need any new members though know there will be some as their having set up these “garden experiments” many times previous, like human gardeners know there will be yield. But they actually set the limits of the yield as they are not harvesting for consumption as humans do for their gardens. They actually put together crews in various departments which requires planning to do as more isn’t better. The reason it was spoken about as jealously was because the goal of the program for those who were enlisted and elected to engage it had the overall qualifications as stated by Jehovah through Moses implementation of “giving to the Lord all one’s heart (body/emotions), mind (spirit/thoughts), soul (aspirations to enlightenment) and strength (efforts). This was laid out before that genetic strain they designed and developed til then knew much about it’s application because the Next Level Older Members don’t manipulate. They do strategize how much stimulus to provide and when according to the responses. That’s what largely makes it an experiment. And the make the rules stringent, while the Older Member incarnate decides exceptions with his consultations with his Older Member which is also their learning experience that will enable their further function for their Older Member.

The entire reason any humans have any of the characteristics of the Next Level Older Members is because They delivered them by their example. They even use all those in the human kingdom, Luciferian space aliens as well, as assets in their experiment to provide some of the positive characteristics of peace and love, kindness, gentleness, that even some dropouts may still embrace, though probably do so in the way humans on Earth at times do, that is the ones with the power, according to how it works for their agenda and to their own which also separates the Next Level program from all others. Next Level students also will treat those that make themselves their enemies with the same respectful, kind and understanding ways they treat all beings evidenced by Jesus saying to his Father so his disciples could hear an example of how he spoke to his Older Member who was not incarnate, “Father forgive them for they know not what they do”. There is no benefit to a human holding that thinking unless they still have Active Next Level Mind in their soul body or spirit or it’s left over from what they received through their genetic tree that originated from the Next Level Older Members and had not become totally tainted and/or distorted into superficial religious or spiritual regimen. I am not knocking religious or spiritual regimen. Ti and Do explained how all things in the human condition can be what leads a human to the “top of the mountain” of the human kingdom, but that when the time arrives to have the chance to get off the human mountain have to be discarded and replaced by the teachings from the currently incarnate Older Members IF THEY CHOOSE TO PROGRESS BEYOND HUMAN.

We also see that the Next Level Older Members can act in a way that is depicted as anger. They do that at times to help students, those who have asked to be in their service/overcoming program as we need that motivation to make changes. We can be willing but there’s that old expression, the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak. Really, that could be more accurate that the spirit is willing but is not strong enough to override the desires of the flesh body we occupy. It’s what humans call “tough love” and of course at times in the human kingdom does show value and other times like everything else is used and abused.

However, with that said, if the Next Level Older Members determine that THEIR garden experiment is in part or entirely non-productive, as with any human organization, they will take appropriate measures. Of course the Next Level don’t have the often hidden agenda’s and profit motivations humans have, except in how the Next Level wants to give those that they see as upcoming the best chance they can give to graduate Their human overcoming school, so will accelerate the life span of those they deem weeds because of how they seek to interfere with their upcoming fruit harvest in a way that’s not an advantage to use. They do use others but not like humans do. They use others by allowing them the opportunity to do what they want to do. If what they want to do is war with others, then the Next Level, if they determine it’s not in their interest to prevent, will allow them to wage war. The Next Level Older Members always provide outs for those in war zones who ask for their help to get out of harms way and they can always save the spirit or soul of a human who doesn’t get out of harms way but shows promise towards a potential future garden overcoming classroom participation. The human vehicles were all designed to die after a certain amount of time and that varies and doesn’t look fair to some but the vehicles are not what the Next Level harvests. However the vehicles are absolutely needed for the overcoming program, providing the participant soul/spirit with what they need to overcome as all humans have as part of their nature.

 

Overcoming the human World starts by following what the Older Members give us

March 22, 2014

A believer in Ti and Do ran some ideas by me, describing in his words how we all came from somewhere other than Earth and that the Older Members help us to link to them and their formula to (return to them, (I think he implied)).

Here is what I could remember from Ti and Do teaching in these regards:

We could do nothing without Them (The Older Members last named, Ti and Do) which is why so few can embrace each “season”‘s teachings completely. (though are not required to, to attach to them as there are different grades in school and we don’t determine the grade we are in or the grade anyone else is in because we are not capable of that judgement).

The “formula” is taught from the start which is essentially separating from the human kingdom in every possible way by linking to the Older Members most current instructions (aka commandments), which provide lessons that in following show Next Level standards to shoot to uphold and are only possible to uphold if we continuously ask for next steps and help to implement them, trusting they will provide help (to overcome) in such a way that they know you can handle, which serves as the example to others that they don’t need to fear changes, when you see they way they help you change. Changes are a must but when they are made is regulated so no one is left out that wants to be in the program and they show it, as talk alone is only part of it. Like Jesus said, we must do all he gives us that includes recognizing how missing the mark (sin) of the provide goals is never defeat IF we don’t let it be, but keep at it.

Ti always said this process of attempting to stay on a goal they provided and how we will experience degrees of that goal, not even knowing it, because we go at it knowing we can hit the mark with missing it as “exercising our muscle”. That muscle is a magnet in that it both draws and and puts out it’s vibrations literally and figuratively. We put out when we share the teachings of the Next Level with others and that i providing service to Them/Their Family up to the Chief of Chiefs as Ti and Do referred to the greatest member. (They also said we would have to get to the Next Level before we would begin to understand more of where that Individual came from).

We set this process in motion today by studying the information (words Ti and Do said) and by using them as much as we can to be of one mind with them. We are not necessarily trying to memorize entire sentences and paragraphs like so many can with Jesus words. It’s far more important to understand that every word is a pointer and descriptor of a lesson step and Ti always compared the classroom to a “piano roll” and “old McDonald’s farm”, starting with the moo moo and going around and adding a quack quack then adding an oink oink, while still repeating (the other animals (representing the lesson) in our consciousness by trying to absort and apply each step. The steps right now are to study it all and share with others the information. From doing that we will also gravitate to the behaviors and ways because to share their info we are giving our “computers” as Ti always call our consciousness re-enforced programming and yet washing the brain of the old so to fill our soul pockets with the new. – Jesus spoke of as the wine and the wine-skin in that context the wine is the fermenting grape essence (juice) a type of metamorphic process.

As far as where we all came from…

Not long before Ti left, Ti told the class that she had “remembered the briefing on a spacecraft” and “that took place before they came”. She described the event; They had gathered all the ones who were going to engage their next step in overcoming, which required that those with bodies sacrifice them in crashes as they would be completing the task and be awarded a new vehicle. Do, after Ti left told us that the Next Level had brought to the Earth vicinity individuals from a number of different planetary systems. (that’s why there are so many reported race variations of space aliens). Ti also said standing all around those with bodies were what I thought she implied were many without physical bodies. These would be “souls” who were worthy of saving in seasons before, presumably from whatever planet they wished to bring them from.

So yes, we are all from elsewhere but that really applies to everything living on earth as earth is by far not the first “experimental garden”.

So we are all degrees of what we have paid attention to and what we have accepted and facilitated the growth of,.a combonation of what They provide each season with what the human kingdom members in spirit provide that is also from the previous provision from the space aliens. Enoch’s writing really evidence this.

They said the planet was set up to provide all the options we could have access to, so we then become what we choose from that which we make our own in beliefs, behaviors and ways and the ones that demonstrate wanting a relationship with Them, the highest beings in the universe whom we can access by projecting our asking as far from the planet as we can imagine, “beyond the stars”, Ti and Do said. This safeguards having any entity not from that kingdom answering our prayers or providing us with satisfaction – thinking we are connected in some way. And we may be connected in some way, of course if we all came from them anyway, but it’s only those that press into their ultimate potential pathway, willing to let go of all ideas and concepts that had got them to that point (so they were good because they helped you come to see what’s most real, that only the creators of it all can provide, even though pieces are provided by all others.

Only the real deal, these from the Next Level incarnate, so to not be confused with spirits/space aliens and human kingdom concerns, will only talk the same talk advanced with each season further away from spiritualism and in to “plain talk” with eventually all mysteries being answered in understandable and more apparent contextual application.

Ti and Do fulfill all the prophecies with a few yet to come before this generation passes

March 13, 2014

The Beast is defined as a “venomous animal”. Venom to the Kingdom of Gods from the literal heavens is that which turns a soul’s eyes away from God, because that’s what causes that soul to choose to serve a false God and all those are recycled at the end of the age (coming shortly), before this generation is over, the generation of his return. People may want to give careful consideration to those Heaven’s Gate people who layed down their lives in 1997 and how alike hey were with Jesus and his disciples. Jesus preached leaving all behind, family, children, lands, for He and his Father. Jesus preached “giving you life” to he and his Father’s service. He told his disciples they must also give their lives (drink the cup of his blood shed) so they were all on a suicide mission except their souls would not be killed and that’s what God  values most. Jesus said the physical body was worth sacrificing for the Kingdom of Heaven’s sake, even castration, “making self a eunuch” like some of those heaven’s gaters did.  Also Jesus was not talking about a spiritual kingdom. After all, he said he could call a legion of “angels (crewmembers)” to save him. He proved he was still physical after being physically killed. He ate food, was touched, spoke with them for 40 days thereafter yet he also had a different body, one that didn’t look exactly the same and could cloak itself so they didn’t see him enter the room with them. He said He as a “son of man” would return. That’s a “Offspring human” ,with a new name and with white hair like snow and a white head like lambs wool and snow riding a white horse and the leaders name was “applewhite”, was Caucasian and had white hair in his 40’s and had purified (whitened) his body when he woke up to his task. He said Ti was his “Father”, a woman – See Rev 12 woman gives birth to male. This birth is to the throne, the position she had but was waking him up to and preparing him for and it says she leaves her incarnation before him by the earth opening up, a phrase for going to the grave. In rev 11 they aren’t killed. apokteino – means, “exit, taken away, offed by death”. The apo part is “off” or “away”. Killed is a different Greek word.  They were “sudued” not “overcome” by the media/authorities in 1975 and they felt “shot down”. They were not following prophecy so didn’t know know the correct translation of  greek nikao, in this case “to subdue” where in other context it is overcome or prevail. If they had been overcome then why would they still need to be killed. Both were mistranslated and additional verses were doctored to go along with kill as there was no “dead body” in the manuscript. It was “ruin”. Their bodies were ruined, which did take place in the public square, the only square where all the worlds people as it describes could see them, the media.

3528 nikaw
nikao
nik-ah’-o
from nikh – nike 3529; to subdue (literally or figuratively):–conquer, overcome, prevail, get the victory.

And “fall on their faces” in rev 11 is also an expression like falling on one’s sword, depending on the context. There were 42 who ended up laying down their lives. 38 then 4 later. Rev 11 says there are 42 affirmations (saints) who travel about the “holy city” for 42 months. Greek “mane” has two meanings. One is as an affirmation and the other is the time frame of a month. There were 24 who joined ti and Do when they were Bo and Peep so were the elders. They said a UFO was to the kingdom of God a cloud of light, etc. They said all the space aliens were the fallen angels (their offspring) while they are all in the discarnate world manipulating them and many humans to try to get off the planet before it recycles again. The produced 7 major public offerings of their information that had global reach, the 7 thunders of rev 10. The space aliens came out of the bottomless pit in rev 9:1-2 which took place in the  1940’s – 50’s. They came by crashing the spacecrafts of the space aliens that wanted to engage the “overcoming program” to become members of the Next Evolutionary Level (no more spiritual mysterious terms or stories). Evolution was NOT Darwinian. It simply meant that there was a mineral, then plant then animal then human kingdom and that human was a stepping stone to the Next Level Above Human where they had physical bodies that were made not propagated by human mammalian methods. They had all overcome over 22 years for most and 3 years for a few and they really did prove that they were joyous to be leaving and it was NOT shown by anyone to be manipulated. In fact Ti and Do sent many away from their group over that time frame. They even paid some to leave because they didn’t seem to be working hard enough to grow to be ready to leave. They turned away people. I could go on and on and on with personal memories and many prophecies fulfilled by them and to come shortly. Do was the rider of the white horse. Bush was the red horse who brought endless war. Obama the black horse who began with a huge job of balancing the two huge “oxen” – Democrats and republicans with financial crisis as it says in Rev 6 is all about commodities – the stock market – how much money for wheat compared to barley, etc. The next horse is the green or pale/green horse. This may be the tea party and or the environmentalists but it will be a major turning point. Hale bopp comet did prove to have a companion. It was photographed by the Japanese and Hawaii though the Hawaii pic was doctored to cover it up. The 40th anniversary of Ti and Do’s first stage of awakening in Bourne, Texas was 2013 with meteor over Russia, asteroid near miss, lots of fireballs everywhere and finally with Pan Starrs comet that also had a companion object photographed with it (though later denied and called debris from a breakup to cover it up) and all that happened from Feb 15 – march 22nd or so. Then this year again with a meteor in Argentina that caused earthquakes in mid February, then 3 near miss asteroids in early march and comet linear and Lovejoy coming to perihelion by march 22 or so as it’s not sure as NASA is totally confused in predicting these things and is covering up a huge amount of what’s happening with the sun, the moon and these comets, asteroids, and meteor, and intelligently driven fireballs. ti and Do will return one more time for those that come to recognize they as the incarnate return. Applewhites face will become something many in not all will see and hate to see of course as he is hated for no reason just like Jesus was hated for no reason except by the religious who feared losing their prominence and following because of him. It’s not any different now which is why I am often banned from christian blogs, etc.

Space Aliens=Nephilim=Antichrist re-appears after Obama riding Rev 6:7 Green human

March 12, 2014

A letter to L.A. Marzulli, one of the more open minded popular Christian broadcaster/bloggers:

I don’t care if you post this as I know you don’t like what I say, but I did want to comment on your Nephilim post (link posted  below) but comments were turned off, so I’ll state what I wanted to offer here. Like Bpearthwatch and others the “Antichrist” is expected to return BEFORE Jesus returns. I don’t disagree with that, though I believe your missing that Jesus return was in two phases, incarnate as a “son of man” (offspring human) for the first fruit, his small group of disciples his Father gave him and the second not incarnate but to be witnessed in the sky/atmosphere/near space and potentially on the surface  (but not incarnate) for the second fruit, those perhaps as many as 144 to 144,000  “saved” for future lesson time after recycling.

So then where is the Antichrist depicted.? Ti and Do said that the ALL the space aliens were the fallen angels. Now that doesn’t mean they still have the physical bodies they had that Enoch and Moses in Genesis 6 talked about, but that would explain how the Nephilim as the offspring of the hybridization program of the fallen angels (once sons (offspring from Their seeding of souls into human vehicles) of God) who grew into service as “watchers” working for the kingdom of God in an elementary fashion because they hadn’t yet proved themselves incorruptible so they were never provided with incorruptible physical bodies).are among us now as the space aliens the fallen angel descendants. Now yes, we know that there are many humans in places in power that are also of their seed. Like the space aliens they are all spiritual atheists regardless of religious affiliations that are meaningless anymore as it’s really coming down to recognition of the One true many membered kingdom of God(s) whose abodes are wherever they are working and are not limited to any one place in the universe who are above human in every way biologically and technically and mentally, etc. and the “human kingdom” which includes the space aliens as they are all mammals and are limited to trying to survive by increasing their numbers by mammalian methods of reproduction and having to eat and have technologies to try to get off the planet before it’s recycled again and some of them are forced to flee underground to try to survive as they did during the flood so that they were able to start over after the flood. Their spacecrafts can work underwater as well as out of water, though their time is coming when all “souls” who live in the sea will be spaded (killed) by the Next Level. Now for the Antichrist reappearing in a physical body again. I believe this is depicted in some detail in:

Rev 6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

Pale is only a remote translation for the Greek “chloros” which is green. Pale it seems came from the idea of a plant that is a yellowish new shoot which can also be the case as a descriptor of the physical body(s) these two take, I suspect there will be many ways “green” describes these two. Remember green was the original way in which we thought of space aliens – green Martians, the moon was made of green cheese. Then there is “green” in terms of the “greens” politically, even the tea party, where tea is a plant and plants are “green” or yellow at first and then green once matured. Then there is green as from the emerald isle so there may be some Irish linkage. And green also has a military connotation as the camouflage of marines, thus some military aspect can be engaged, even martial law as some fear is down the road. And finally green in perhaps the biggest way that is a result of what many of the space aliens have said through contactees and channelers that is becoming the battle cry all over the world and congress is meeting about as we speak, the environmental green movement that is claiming humans are bringing about the global warming trend. It’s no mystery that when they had the Nobel peace prize given to Obama in Oslo a number of years ago it was at the same time as a big environmental conference. Those conferences never get anywhere because that’s not what they are really for but it is a way for countries to come together to talk about the NWO and at some of the deepest levels interchange data on the space aliens involvements. Yes, the space aliens are who are “riding” the Red, Black and Pale/Green horses (humans) via both their discarnate presence as all the original fallen angels I believe are dead so are in the discarnate world manipulating whatever humans can bring them the biggest bang for their agenda, while are also running the show of the space aliens, their immediate descendants by whatever reproductive methods..When I was researching Romney with his LDS leadership and space alien affiliations in their more secretive beliefs, he really seemed to fit for a number of reasons but I know there are many who can fit that role.

So of course we won’t have more of a handle on this thinking being true until about 2017 which I suspect will being the 4th stage in the birthing of Souls into Next Level membership because those that by then begin to wake up to the fact that Ti and Do were the incarnate return will be targeted and those who are public about their faith and spreading Ti and Do’s information will be apprehended and probably killed because of how such threatens so many in places of comfort and power in their beliefs.

There is a lot more on this and I have been given the keys to opening up all the scriptures eventually though I can only do so a little at a time. I actually don’t want you to post this as I’m realizing that for most of your followers it’s too much too fast to consider what I have to share. You know well how hard it was for you to grasp the reality to the way scriptures and space aliens intermingle. Most people can’t fathom much about space alien realities let alone thinking that the Kingdom of God/Heaven physical bodies they wear also look like what some space aliens have been programmed by the lower forces to look like. For instance the grays of Whitley Strieber are horrendous looking as with other contactee and abductee depictions. I’m not saying there are not space aliens that look like that but I believe they are suits to disguise what they really look like as they are probably reptilian looking and are influenced in their suit design to resemble Next Level vehicles as the Luciferians know what those vehicles look like. Ti had one drawn and I put it on my broadcasts that I put on my YouTube channel 3spm if you want to see it. They look kind and loving and gentle and have slightly larger than human heads and slightly larger eyes but other than that are very pleasant-looking and are humanoid like the Lord said they created humans in their likeness which was a visual likeness in the Hebrew.

Link to L.A.’s post about the Nephilim:

http://lamarzulli.wordpress.com/2014/03/10/nephilim/