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Critique of Huffington Post article “dying to go to heaven” that insinuates Heaven’s gate compares to suicide bombers of 9/11 etc. and how they should be stopped

March 28, 2017

To follow is my critique of this Huff Post article that is about the latest wild eyed pack of lies as almost could be. Here is the link to the article with my comments side by side to the text:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dying-to-go-to-heaven-what-the-heavens-gate-suicides_us_58d56e6ce4b06c3d3d3e6d71

Dying To Go To Heaven: What The Heaven’s Gate Suicides Teach Us About Islamic Martyrdom

Michael Shermer, Contributor Publisher Skeptic magazine (skeptic.com), columnist Scientific American, Presidential Fellow Chapman University
@MichaelShermer.

It was 20 years ago this week, March 20-26, 1997, that 39 members of the Heaven’s Gate cult “graduated” from this life to ascend to the UFO mothership that they believed would take them to an extraterrestrial paradise. I’ll never forget it. I was on book tour for Why People Believe Weird Things, and neither I nor any of my peers who study belief systems had ever heard of the cult. It was hard to fathom. Now, as I look back 20 years later, I believe the mass suicide has a deeper lesson that goes far beyond the confines of New Age fringe cults, and has relevance to understanding the motivations of today’s suicide terrorists.

**** Sawyer’s comment:

First off, this is like comparing doctors who work for Doctors without borders to those who design biological weapons. There is zero comparison and that’s a distant comparison. It would be like comparing Ghandi or Martin Luther King Jr. to the leader of the KKK, even for motivation. Maybe it seems like a fair comparison for someone who has no concept of what is beyond the limited scientific view of where we as a human species came from and when and how.

It’s no secret that the motivation of suicide terrorists is most often vengence for others crimes against their people tied into hating their lives and the misery around them perpetrated largely by the west and mixed in with distorted belief systems that vary and no longer even resemble their founders teachings. Take Christians today. What do they DO and SAY that has much of anything to do with what Jesus taught and what they do get right, they assume applies to them, for the benefits though they ignore the requirements. Or they mystify everything so it can apply to whatever they want it to. Christians today are really disciples of Paul who hated and condemned Jesus followers and the disciples of Jesus were quite “wary” of, yet became the foundation of Catholicism commercialized and politcized and spiritualized ad infinitum.

I’m no expert on Islam but know enough that the same kind of distortion and dilution exists today and has for centuries just as the same kind of distortion is quite apparant in Judaism, today’s Rabbinic Judaism, separate from Orthodox that is even far afield from it’s core provided by Jehovah through Moses. And of course the same can be said of Hinduism and Buddhism with some sects more atuned to the anceit Veda’s and Upanishads than others who had secularized and/or religisized.

To try to make this case using Marshall and Bonnie as your guinea pigs is as shallow a low blow as one can make, even worse than using cutsey words to describe their so called “insanity” which today is the going rage in the internet mainstream journalism, which I can show lots of examples of.

Of couse there isn’t much guts left in most of the media that I have found so it’s par for the course of what has become a paid off enterprise to allow and even support this kind of journalism.

May little examples will follow:
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But first, let’s revisit the story. Heaven’s Gate was founded in 1975 by Marshall Applewhite and Bonnie Nettles after they met in a psychiatric hospital. They fell in love and believed their pairing had been foretold by extraterrestrials.

*** Sawyers’s comment:
The article reports: “But first, let’s revisit the story. Heaven’s Gate was founded in 1975 [1] by Marshall Applewhite and Bonnie Nettles after they met in a psychiatric hospital [2]. They fell in love [3] and believed their pairing had been foretold by extraterrestrials.

(By the way Wikepedia is also full of innaccuracies that I have tried to offer to correct some of in years past but they don’t consider me authorized, though perhaps since I have published now they will hear me out a tiny bit more. My web site for my book is at: http://wwww.TIandDOTheFatherandJesusHeavensGateUFOTwoWitnesses.com )

For a number of corrections I refer to the document “’88 Update – The UFO Two and Their Crew”, http://heavensgate.com/book/3-3.htm which was written by DO in October of 1988 that I witnessed him write from a farmhouse north of Dallas, Texas where we all lived then. I also witnessed him talking about a lot of it’s content before then with TI present at meetings that some of are recorded, which was before Ti’s vehicle died thus up to 1985) and if I had to I could find other former members to collaborate what I heard even includeing the current webmasters of their web site.

According to Wikepedia they do count, or at least give the appearance of value to this document without actually listing it in their references but listing other’s writings where they must say what DO said but often get wrong. I have actually helped one of the most, go to professors – Robert Balch on more than one occasion with accuracy to his writings. In fact Do even sent me to sit with him in 1997 on one such book project he was involved. I was also consulted by Benjamin Zeller on his book but as it goes with academics if they have an idea in their mind they are writing to play out, they will ignore anything that doesn’t substantiate that opinion so most, if not all of what I wrote to him was ignored.

So why have so many writers stay as far away from the 88 update as they could, to instead use conjecture based on rumors that grew to be treated as “facts”, or should I call them “alternative facts” – pure lies and misinformation? I believe I understand why but that’s not for this brief report. Here are three points in this first sentence and there are many more as this article could be used in journalism school to show what journalism can become – a purveyor of anything but the truth and even a stimulant of myth.

1) “Heaven’s Gate was founded in 1975…”, the name was founded in 1996. One can search the Heaven’s Gate web site for that name and won’t find it used in the documents that were written before then.

2) “after they met in a psychiatric hospital”

3) “they fell in love”

Here’s what Do wrote in 88update that I witnessed he and Ti referring to several times:

“In the early 1970’s, two members of the Kingdom of Heaven (or what some might call two aliens from space) incarnated into two unsuspecting humans in Houston, a registered nurse and a college music professor who were in their forties. The nurse and the professor hadn’t previously known each other and had completely separate lives. The registered nurse was happily married with four children, worked in the nursery of a local hospital [2 – what kind of psychiatric hospital has a “nursery?”], and enjoyed a small astrology practice. The music professor, a divorcee who had lived with a male friend for some years, was contentedly involved in cultural and academic activities.

For about a year before they met, their lives seemed to encounter severe upheaval and personal confusion, later recognized as the human body’s response to the entry of the minds from what “the two” referred to as the “Next Level,” or the physical level above human. About nine months after they first met, they left Houston because their lives, which were crumbling around them, made it impossible to concentrate on what was actually happening to them.

Most of their friends and associates thought the two of them had lost their minds or were being duped into a relationship by the other. The only relationship they shared, certainly having no physical attraction toward each other, was the compulsion to discover what had brought them together and what might be their purpose. They had little in common other than strong personal relationships with their Heavenly Father.” [3 – fell in love”?]

So where did the “psychiatric hospital” idea come in and where was it that they “fell in love” and no mention of “extraterrestrials” though I would give that last point some liberty. Here is yet another view as said by DO live on the video series he started in 1992. By the way I am introduced as Sawyer in the video and my face is shown as with Jwn his two “helpers” in the video:

Beyond Human — The Last Call – Session 1
http://heavensgate.com/book/4-4.htm

10th paragraph:

In the early 70’s, for unknown reasons (and this is just my attempt to explain to you what occurred), for unknown reasons – things we could not understand – my life began to suddenly fall apart.  It had been a very stable life, an acceptable life, certainly one that was considered legitimate and had respect to it in the community, as did Ti’s life. And her life separately began to fall apart.  We did not know each other.  We’d never seen one another that we were aware of – had never met.  Then in the early 70’s, I think around ’72, we met just perchance while I was visiting a sick friend in a hospital where Ti was a nurse.[2 – met in hospital where Ti was a nurse that had a nursery] From that moment, my life changed – changed very significantly. I rebelled.  I didn’t want it to change, and yet I knew it had to change.  And the conflict that was in me was very great.

The same thing was happening with Ti.  She knew she had something to do with me.  I tried to reject that idea. Ti was confused for awhile and wondered, “Well, why do I recognize you, and you don’t recognize me”?  And even though I might have thought I didn’t recognize Ti, I knew that I couldn’t cut it off. And yet here we had separate lives, separate careers, families, involvements in the world, and all of a sudden, just because we met, something was causing us to have to become more involved in spite of our desire not to.  Not involved in a human way.  There was never a coming together in that we were bed partners or involved in a physical relationship. [3 – “fell in love?”] But there was something that compelled us to spend time together and listen to each other, and search together.”

I know reporters went to Houston to talk to people that knew them and no doubt one or more could have said they thought they were having an affair. I know that DO told us that they got a court order against Ti’s vehicles husband (as I don’t know if they had divorced yet by then) because he threated DO. So it was fertile ground for conjecture but that doesn’t mean they are facts.

What not believe what Do wrote in several documents at different times years apart and that I heard Ti talk about a decade or so earlier, to confirm as the most accurate account? They would still be considered evil cult leaders even then. What did they have to gain by making up that story. Especially in 1994, why would Do hide the truth from his dedicated 24+ students when they were going to go out on the road again after 17 years in seclusion to “recruit”, (that actually never was as other groups did so, which I provide evidence for)? We held meetings in Dallas, Houston, Addison and Austin that year and DO wasn’t traveling with any of the groups while they went out among the people to put up posters advertising the meetings and looking for free press coverage. I was even part of a multi group effort that did a big story for the Dallas Morning News then in which Ollody’s many paints were shown on television. We visited most every health food store and book store and campus to advertise our meetings. How unlikely would have it been to run into someone that knew of the story about Applewhite and Nettles from 1975. I don’t know if that happened. However in 1975 at Christmas time, having joined 3 months before then, I with my partner who Ti and Do had assigned me several months before then, were out on our own with no connection to a larger group or to Bo and Peep (the names they still used then), hitchhiked (because our car broke down) to Houston where Dandy actually knew some people who we stayed with for a night or two. While there, they had some people over and it just so happens one was a women who told us she knew Applewhite and that he had wandering hands, I think she said. I thought that was a sexual insinuation. I didn’t think she was making it up but nor did it disuade me or have me question what I was doing. I had been a rogue hippy vagabond musician for years before then, exploring a number of spiritual forms, to which I could never really feel one with, that is until I met Ti and Do and knew I had to give up my instruments and girlfriend and the house I was building in a startup commune in Oregon to follow them. My point is, how did they know what any of us heard about them, even when groups did meetings in 1975-6 in Austin, Brownsville, El Paso, Houston, Nashville, Lubbock and San Marcos? They could have started to tell their stories of how they met, which I only recall in the early 1980’s while living in houses and could have said things that could give a student a hard time believing because of what they heard. Why would they have risked making up a story when they were already hated by people all over the country even without that story and how would their story make it better for them anyway?

Common sense says that their story as told by Do is the most dependable one but seems to be the one most all the media outlets I’ve seen and that’s been many dozens since 1975 avoid like the plague. I can offer an explanation for this but most will have a hard time with it, but it doesn’t matter, the facts stand on their own.

Here is where so many reporters get their “facts”:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven%27s_Gate_%28religious_group%29
According to Applewhite’s writings, the two met in the psychiatric hospital where she worked during his stay there.[5] The two quickly became close friends.[6] He later recalled that he felt like he had known her for a long time and concluded that they had met in a past life.[7] She told him their meeting had been foretold to her by extraterrestrials, persuading him that he had a divine assignment.[8][9]

(7) Lalich 2004, pp. 44, 48.
(8) Balch & Taylor 2002, p. 210.
(9) Lalich 2004, p. 43.

Do only wrote about this in 88 update and spoke about it in Beyond Human – The Last Call video tape session 1 so perhaps these references refer to one of these documents as the video tapes were transcribed so are available in print.
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In the 1980s and 1990s, they recruited several hundred followers, many of whom sold their possessions and lived in isolation, disconnected from their family and friends. They practiced living in dark rooms to simulate space travel and considered sex sinful, with six male members voluntarily undergoing castration.

*** Sawyer’s comment:
Wrong. There was zero “recruiting” as a lay person might see it during any of the 1980’s. I was there the entire time so I know this for a fact and can prove it. For 9 months in 1994 one could say they (we) recruited, though I assure you I can prove it wasn’t recuritment like in any other group. I was an “overseer” and I actually turned away two who were interested after the University of Chicago meeting.

Everyone who joined turned over any remaining possessions they had, not counting the clothing and toiletries and such. No one was searched and some did join with their marijuna and used it and when Ti and Do found out about it dismissed them from the group if they didn’t show signs of willing to drop those habits as with sex.

We never practiced living in Dark rooms. I’d really like to know who said these things. If it was an x-classmate I can prove they were wrong  as I know some former members who are actually not believers anymore but who I am good friends with none the same and who were in the group almost as long as I was.

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In early 1997, the appearance of Comet Hale-Bopp foretold to them that the coming of the UFO mothership, said to be hiding behind the comet, that would take them to what they called The Evolutionary Level Above Human (TELAH), where they would live forever in unadulterated ecstasy. This story was reinforced by Art Bell, on his popular late-night radio show Coast to Coast AM, a purveyor of conspiratorial “alternative facts” (before they were known as such). Compared to eternal bliss in this extraterrestrial heaven, life on Earth was but a temporary stage in evolution. The transition was made in three waves that week, as members drank a deadly cocktail of phenobarbital, applesauce, and vodka; also pulling plastic bags over their heads for self-asphyxiation. Authorities found them all dead in a San Diego home on March 26. The event became a media circus.

All 39 deceased cult members were dressed in identical black shirts and sweat pants, wearing brand new black-and-white Nike Decades athletic shoes, and armband patches reading ‘Heaven’s Gate Away Team’.

Twenty years later, the beliefs of the Heaven’s Gate cult members do seem absurdly ridiculous to most of us, grounded as they were in the New Age science fiction pop-culture. But at their core, how different are the motivations of the Heaven’s Gate members from those today who believe that a heavenly paradise awaits them through a dramatic suicide?

*** Sawyer’s comment:
Suicide as humans define it, different than how Jesus would define it and not the way Do and Crew defined it in their document, “Our Position Against Suicide”.

I’m not sure who this author is referring to by “…motivations of the Heaven’s Gate members from those today…” But Do actually left the “gate open” to exiting the say way they did. I’m actually talked several out of taking that kind of measure as that can also be used by the Lower Forces to further smear the truth, because DO and Crew also spoke about how humans NEED their human vehicles to learn lessons through as the only way to grow towards graduation. Thus the primary ones that option to exit in that way would have most applied to are those that had been in the classroom before, like myself. However the webmasters of the Heavensgate.com web site, were so freaked out from all the negative publicity they got when the group exited, and that they didn’t have a clue was in the works because they weren’t in the class since 1987 or they would have heard lots of talk about it, as I did in 1994, did tell people “the gate is closed” which was the start of mutating the truth into misinformation. The truth is always hard to bear and especially for those who never sought it out much and who become entrenched in this or that “path” as their mission. Those paths are not wrong but they at best can lead to the top of the human mountain while to get off that mountain, as Ti and Do put it requires adhering to the teachings/direction and example from Members of the Level Above Human who exist off that human mountain.

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Perhaps the closest example in the minds of most Americans is Islamic suicide terrorism, a cult-like belief system with far deadlier implications than Heaven’s Gate. Ever since 19 Muslim men chose to end their life in the 9/11 terrorist attacks, Westerners have wondered aloud how a belief in heavenly paradise can drive such extreme actions.

The suicide attackers involved in 9/11 attack on the World Trade Center believed they were entering a heavenly afterlife.

*** Sawyer’s comment:
There are millions even billions who think when they die they go to some heavenly afterlife. The word heaven also means sky and the existence in spirit form can seem like LIFE but it’s nothing of the sort which can be shown by Jesus teachings.

Dying doesn’t necessarily get anyone anywhere no matter what they believe, though Ti and Do taught that they get some semblence of what they believed they would get upon death, but it doesn’t mean it is what they think it is, because one must know what it is before they die and that can only be understood when Older Members are incarnate to lift the veil and shoot down the distortions. That is actually allowed to happen so it’s only those who press to understand that truth that find it as the Next Level doesn’t need any new members. They don’t die and have plenty of work setting up gardens for future opportunities that they then “seed” and nurture to a harvest (graduation) of souls while saving others for future opportunities which is where the idea of reincarnation comes from, except that too was distorted into some automatic process, etc.
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Indeed, the emergence of Islamic martyrdom through suicide bombings seems to have remarkably cult-like traits. It was Muhammad himself (as cited in the Qur’an) who ruled that as a general principle any Muslim soldier who died while attacking an infidel would go straight to paradise. But only in recent times has this statement has been used as a motivator for the style of suicide bombings practiced by the leaders of al Qaeda and ISIS.

Most Muslim scholars agree that the Qur’an forbids suicide, yet according to the Chicago Project on Security and Terrorism, 224 of 300 suicide terror attacks from 1980 to 2003 involved Islamist groups. Statistics suggest the frequency of terror-based suicide has increased dramatically, from less than one incident per month in the decades prior to 9/11, to more than one per day in 2015.
Mohamed Atta served as the hijacker-pilot of American Airlines Flight 11, crashing the plane into the North Tower of the World Trade Center as part of the coordinated 9/11 attacks.

Consider the final words of the 9/11 hijacker Mohammed Atta (above), penned in a suicide note found in his luggage that he left in his rental car before flying into the World Trade Center building: “Know that the gardens of paradise are waiting for you in all their beauty, and the women of paradise are waiting, calling out, ‘Come hither, friend of God.’”

*** Sawyer’s comment:

So full of distortions. According to Ti and Do the only ones that came from the Next Level incarnate were Adam, Enoch, Moses, Elijah and Jesus, before their arrival. However they weren’t counting student tasks like perhaps portrayed as Old Testament prophets. DO liked that some in the Islamic countries still made pleasing God part of their everyday attitude. And he liked that they were at least trying to be more modest in dress.

That’s all I know about what they said about Islam, but the general viewpoint of who was teaching things from the Next Level Mind had to do with primarily who was teachings “separating from the human kingdom” – breaking ties and roots to their genetic heritage, not being satisfied with human competitions and building of self even when they have the opportunity. One example was with the Buddhist premise of “renunciation of the world” that DO thought was a sign that at least one Buddha had been part of a Next Level task in that culture.

The true kingdom of God, Kingdom in the literal Heavens has no “women” nor men, as they have outgrown male and female mammalianism. Their physical bodies are grown on a vine to adulthood when they are assigned one for whatever their tasks are that vehicle might have been best suited to perform.

There are no “gardens” in the Next Level. The term “garden” had to do with the way the earth was the Next Level’s experimental hothouse to grow both human vehicles on and to grow spirit and souls within those human vehicles so they could one day after generations graduate out of the human evolutionary kingdom. There is actually nothing spiritual about it except in how the process is one of “mind” over “matter” and it’s swapping out the Luciferian space alien fallen angel “misinformation mind” that saturates all humans with “Next Level (Holy) true, real Mind – Mind that is as a program that by adhering to and applying leads to Next Level Membership.
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Perhaps out of a desire to not criticize other religions, many Western commentators and politicians blame Islamic terrorism on economic or political pressures. These factors may certainly come into play – yet we cannot escape the fact that suicide bombers often believe they are going to heaven for their deadly actions.

Perhaps it is time for anti-terror groups to cease thinking of Islamic suicide bombings as a legitimate act of war, and instead see the similarities with suicides cults like Heaven’s Gate. Consider the 2016 article, “Why We Hate You, Why We Fight You”, in the ISIS publication Dabiq. The unnamed author drills home the point that beyond any secondary political motives is the fact that, “What’s equally if not more important to understand is that we fight you, not simply to punish and deter you, but to bring you true freedom in this life and salvation in the Hereafter.”

*** Sawyer’s comment:
Except for the HUGE fact that is a MAJOR difference and is like 180 degrees apart – in that the Heaven’s Gate cult members did not harm anyone else but their own human vehicles. The idea that humans don’t have the right to end their own human lives is not found in any of the Judaic or Christian core teachings from Moses and Jesus. And perhaps it’s not really found in the Quran either as otherwise why the debate. Of course that’s part of the disinformation to disguise the truth, the facts to bring question to them, slant them in some way for whowevers agenda and there is a lot to say about why that happens that I won’t go into here.
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The Hereafter. Would the leaders of al Qaeda and ISIS be able to recruit as many people into their cult of death without the promise of a glorious afterlife? Surely not.

The Heaven’s Gate cult relied heavily on references to New Age science fiction.

*** Sawyers comment:
To the contrary, how many in the military of most every country feel they are honored by dying for their country and thought to be countrymen. All it took to enlist many of them was the idea and the guaranteed pay check and benefits and whatever programming they had that it was honorable. Thousands killed and murdered others in Vietnam, Iraq and Afganistan on that basis or in the case of Vietnam because othewise they would have been imprisoned as a traitor, though if your family had the money could get their offspring out of going to the fronts. Not to justify the violence of any of these, but when one is rebelling from a foreign invader who stands on the higher moral ground really, though of course the highest moral grounds would be those like Martin Luther King and Ghandi would like Jesus were willing to take the violence against them without delivering it back.
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Whatever other motives Islamic terrorists may have for their actions, beneath them all is the same supernatural belief held by the Heaven’s Gate cult members: that they’re not really committing suicide, but simply transitioning to a better place where they will be rewarded for their actions. And just like most of us would intervene with friends or family who joined a suicide cult like Heaven’s Gate, Muslim moderates and reformers, along with religious people of all faiths, must debunk the false fact that heaven awaits those who kill themselves, especially if they take the lives of others.

*** Sawyer’s comment:

The only way I can further comment to this view is to say something Do said and that is – in all depends on whose “heaven” one is aiming for. Lots of people talk about heaven as if it’s one location while those that know their scriptures will know that there was one level of heaven that was thought of as “Abrahams Bosom” and that when Jesus said to the thief on the cross that this day (for his belief) he would be with him in “paradise” that he meant that level of heaven where his spirit or soul would be saved to for future opportunities. To others being outside the body means one is in heaven and yet that is possible but that heaven is referred to as “death” or the “spirit world” that is not automatically arriving any anything better unless the Next Level chooses to take that spirit or soul to someplace better from there.

For instance Lucifers “heaven” is called “hell” because the true meaning of hell is separation from God permenantly – no option to change because of one’s own choices not to take advanage of many option when they were provided to where one loses the perspective that there is anyplace else to go.  But the Luciferian fallen angel space aliens are desperate at this time to get off the planet as they have it from rumors and past experience that if they don’t get off the planet they will be forced underground again and even totally annialated, body and soul in hell – “lake of fire” when the Next Level is finished offering humanity this last chance to recognize their Representatives who last used the names Ti and Do.
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Michael Shermer is the Publisher of Skeptic magazine, a monthly columnist for Scientific American, and a Presidential Fellow at Chapman University. His next book is Heavens on Earth: The Scientific Quest for Immortality, the Afterlife, and Utopia. Follow him on Twitter @MichaelShermer.
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What Ti and Do (“Jesus”) might say about Trump wanting to keep Muslims out of America

December 12, 2015

Here is my response to a post that asks the question of whether Republican presidential candidate Donald J. Trump was right about a law banning Muslims from America. I tried to give what I hope might be what Ti and Do might say. The link to the article is below for those that want to see what others say. I left a comment but I didn’t actually read the article. I just went by the title to respond:

From what Ti and Do taught; I believe the Luciferian space alien perspective of maintaining law and order that Lucifer and his fellow “fallen angels” seek to maintain on earth, it’s “just” (right). But from the perspective of the Evolutionary Level Above Human who created the earth and all it’s life forms, as their “hothouse”, to grow minds/souls upon towards new membership in their society of Beings, it’s not right (just) because it imposes limitations to how the souls and human evolutionary level minds/spirits in their “garden” can migrate away from their human root systems and war torn environments to seek a better life. (As Jesus said about the “son of man” (offspring man-faced (human)):

Mat 8:19 And a certain scribe came, and said unto him, Master, I will follow thee whithersoever thou goest.
Mat 8:20 And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.

A Member of the Next Level who is incarnate in a human vehicle would not be comfortable staying put and outgrow relating to their human root system – family as they know they are related to a different family of Above Human Beings like themselves as their Family, not the relations to the vehicle they borrow for their task. Thus the Next Level working with Souls and the human vehicles the souls are planted within foster events that break up human families and disrupt normalcy to stimulate further growth towards some becoming graduates out of the human evolutionary kingdom.

In other words, the object in the garden is to raise minds/spirits through human flesh by subjecting them to adversity that stimulates their quest for something better that if they continue to thirst for, as Jesus taught, which, that adversity is the salt in the garden, will draw more of what is real to them which must be continued throughout that mind/spirits experience in the human kingdom over many lifetimes (each leaf on the genetic tree is one of those lifetimes – the leaf dies each season but the tree retains all the leaf experienced in it’s genetic database it produces new leaves from to continue the growth pattern of that branch).  All the space aliens are like “fallen trees” – from whatever planet or earth civilization past, souls (planting into the human or equivilent tree) who sprouted and were given a partially evolved Next Level vehicle before they chose to go against the Older Member’s instructions and began to cohabitate and/or use humans for their hybridization of human experiments to foster their own “kingdom” on earth. They had many chances to change/recover from that fall but did not, so the Next Level decided to use what they wanted to do, to put other souls in their equivilent schooling stage towards adult membership in the Next Level to the test, to gain strength of Next Level (holy) Mind/Spirit by dealing with and conquering, prevailing against, sort of like the Star Trek Holodeck as a training program that if they succeeded could be awarding a Next Level Adult vehicle (body) grown on a vine (no longer from mammalian reproduction) that they would have outgrown desire for.

That’s what was meant by an Israeli, (he who “prevails as Jehovah”) a human seeded by the Next Level (receives a soul deposit, a container like a seed with programs in it to provide interface and the sense of Beings who are Above  the Human Kingdom in every way) that by receiving continued nourishment from incarnate Older Members – adhering to each lesson plan, that are like trimesters toward their spirit/mind birth – the Moses classroom and possibly Gautama Buddha’s classroom (because of how it taught renunciation of the (human) world’s norms) and then Jesus classroom (that taught how discipleship involved severing of genetic roots in behavior and ways) and to date Ti and Do’s third trimester classroom, that those souls already graduated from but that we are still potentially engaged in, to degrees or not, yields growth of each soul to be ready for the next re-incarnation (re- taking over of a human vehicle – aka to “stand up again” (re-generate) of that Older Member (that is not scheduled before the civilization undergoes a spading under that includes a dissolving of the “sprirt world” and a re-jailing of the Luciferians, which is what humans now are preparing for without much knowledge of who is coming to perform the recycling procedures. The space aliens try to win souls to their camp by pitting souls against the Next Level by referring to them as the Reptilians and/or Orion’s (greys) who have no ability to alter the earth’s usefulness to the Next Level until the Next Level allows it to happen for the sake of the difficult lesson plan they help their “seed” through because overcoming the Luciferian influence on humans would be impossible without that help.

So the Luciferians, who are the space races who themselves are in competition with one another over the spoils of the planet, those souls who have decided not to be in a Next Level program, because they can’t create a soul pocket/container/seed but have no other way to add to their ranks – as souls can be taught to move in and out of vehicles and to see as they see, though to be in their camp means they have disconnected from the Next Level camp. These space races pit humans against humans because of how it drives the increase in technologies they need to try to get off the planet to find another life habitat and/or certain elements they have in very limited supply to date that powers their spacecrafts (that are primitive crafts to the Next Level, though have things they can do that human’s are still trying to duplicate, and may to some degree accomplish before recycling is underway that will set them back in further development) and/or build safe harbor from recycling they know is pending underground and/or under the seas or on a near space base as they can’t travel very far away from earth anymore for lack of a life sustaining/promoting atmosphere.

Thus the warring is used by the Next Level because those who seek to escape it are those who put the value of their lives above fighting for their root system – security, homelike, status quo humanness, genetic family, lands, livelihood which is to the Next Level a good step for them to take as they can then become the spirits and genetic strains that the Next Level uses to re-populate the civilization from, like Jesus referred to the “meek who shall inherit the earth”. The graduates leave the earth and after the waste reduction of the humans who became the fodder of the space alien race wars – even assisting the Next Level’s spading (pulling up of the Tares the look alike wheat planted by the Luciferian space aliens in the garden – their seed). By leave the earth it’s referring to being “saved”, Do called being “put on ice” (not literally) but kept safe from the recycling and garbage (weed) disposal. (by the way we in human vehicles don’t have the ability to know who is a weed or not so it’s no appropriate for us to judge who should die – that became distorted in the records, though the Next Level can save any spirit or soul who has lost their vehicle like by accident or as a victim of war and crime. The vehicle is designed to be disposable. Only the Next Level can destroy a soul though a Luciferian space alien can turn a soul away from the Next Level but the Next Level doesn’t let that happen easily without giving each soul many, many opportunities to come back to their allegiance. The Next Level does not need new members. It’s their joy to provide what they know they have – real genuine physical and mental life in a perpetual growth and service society that show their love for one another by their common Next Level Mind (holy spirit) connection to their Older Members, the Ones who parented them into their membership in the Next Level.

http://www.starshipearththebigpicture.com/2015/12/11/is-trump-right-about-a-law-banning-muslims-from-america-video/

Gov’t Conspiracy or Alien/Discarnate reason for Swats near Terrorist Attacks

December 12, 2015

A blogger I follow reported on a list of so-called coincidences between many of the Terrorist attacks and mass killing gun violence as in Paris, France and in America at San Bernardino and in NYC with 9/11 and the London train bombing on 7/2007 with the presence of Swat teams nearby on the same day. There were swat team trainings going on at the very  moment of the San Bernardino, 9/11 and London subway bombings that make them look like the attacks were planned by the governments involved. (which I don’t tend to believe) but feel there is more to it to consider. I do believe the govt has all kinds of deceitful dealings but I doubt this is one of them. I suspect the big claims that many of these are “false flags” is a way to sow more seeds of confusion with what is or isn’t really happening. The link to the article follows at the end of this post but here is my input:

I can think of two related explanations for these so called coincidences based on what Ti and Do taught:

1) Ti and Do taught that humans/spirits before they die, (in this context though applies for all human activity) if they were hateful or vengeful or jealous and angry and/or self righteous and believe themselves justified to any behavior to include even killing other humans for all their reasons, when they die – drop the vehicle, they continue to “be who they were” even if who they were was in mind alone. In other words, if while living the extent of their demonstration of these hateful vibrations was kept inside their head they still died with that programming and thus would vibrate that way to influence any human with their programming in what they would then justify as helpful and a projection of their “belief”. So if they are a soldier or intelligence officer or general or the like when they die, they don’t cease being that but they have to go to others in living vehicles to get their fix of expressing their program by stimulating them to enact their behaviors to satisfy themselves. In the old days these were called “evil spirits” but that becomes a relative condition. Thus, they can be aware of plots and can also alert other humans to those plots but they have to interface with the living humans who are not conscious of all that’s going on behind the scenes so they would say to a commander, “start a drill in Paris” or NYC for this day knowing well that there is a plot to attack that day. If they told the human there was a plot the human wouldn’t know what to do with that unless they had names and faces and locations and timing to start an investigation, which also takes place to give humans hunches or intuition. For this reason there are also humans who decide not to go to places where an impending attack is about to happen. They can be distracted and think, Oh, I’m going to skip that concert or whatever or leave early or get there late or go to the bathroom at the time of the attack or in some way have a sense to keep them out of harms way. Those would be considered “guardian angels” – spirits that may or may not be working for the Next Level but could be assigned to watch over certain ones the Next Level wants to  protect which an also be the case for humans space aliens want to protect which brings us to the second example I can think of.

2) The Space Aliens are not really much different from humans in their desires and beliefs and ideas. Ti and Do said they were all “human equivalents”. They have agenda’s and they allow for collateral damage in forwarding their agenda’s so can be peace loving and promoting and also be promoting warring (just like we see in humans who are primarily at the controls of any human department of life – like American’s or French justifying killing while saying they want peace – the reason for their killing). Therefore they can be behind the stimulus that includes alerting certain humans to schedule drills at the time they knew the attacks  were planned in order to implicate the governments because it’s a facsimile way of targeting souls who are already suspicious of governmental conspiracies, but it then looks human instigated that gives rise to a bigger and bigger security state to keep more and more rebels under their thumb and keep people from seeing who is really behind the misdeeds that humans then participate in.

Do (of Ti and Do) indicated that the space aliens have ways of transmitting their thoughts and ideas to humans in a bulk kind of way and know how to teach discarnate (dead humans) to facilitate.

Each human is a type of computer system. The discarnates naturally seek to use living humans to “live through”, the only way they can experience life and it’s energy buzz. These spirits are like software that desires to run on an operating system and they seek out the humans that can best serve the program they were created from, when they were the emanation from their own human body.

The space aliens know well how this works and use it all the time to herd humans and discarnates to their causes. If they can keep humans confused and certainly not assigning any of this to them then they have captured those humans and can manipulate them like robots, so when they have a human who can attract other humans, they can use them in the way we saw the U.S. public motivated to go to war in Iraq or to bomb Syria, etc.

This also influences humans away from showing Next Level allegiance – the One True Evolutionary Level Above Human that created everything who they oppose and resent because of how they are actually in prison on earth, can no longer venture very far into space, though they are trying to use humans for.

The Next Level has turned up the “heat” by also having a program to stimulate humans and space aliens to “be who they are” – show allegiance to them and their ways or to the space aliens and their human ways. It’s like putting a strong  light/heat source on a bee hive or ant hill. Too much will fry them all but just a gradual increase stimulates them and that stimulus for humans in increased passion (fire) that can be expelled/used in all sensory ways or directed to a stronger connection to the Next Level Older Members who oversee their garden’s soul growth. When they left their incarnations in 1997 that started the increased “heat” and light that began to reveal more truth surrounding everything and there have been further increases and then leveling off periods with the latest increase this year starting with the “light sources on dwarf planet Ceres” the physical observable example of increased awareness of what’s not normally in our scope or reality reference.

http://www.starshipearththebigpicture.com/2015/12/11/look-at-all-the-bizarre-coincidences-surrounding-77-911-newtown-paris-norway-batman-theatre-san-bernardino-terrrorist-attacks/