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TI and DO Classroom Meeting Transcript Links

December 4, 2019
The Heaven’s Gate Book contains the transcripts of the Beyond Human Video tape series
Here is what I have that’s been posted on my blog:
TI and DO Audio Transcript 005 – Program for Perfect Health by Meditation to Eliminate Stress
https://sawyerhg.wordpress.com/2019/04/13/ti-and-do-audio-transcript-005-program-for-perfect-health-by-meditation-to-eliminate-stress/
TI and DO transcript #53 – Lessons on Following Instructions as a Member of the Next Level Would
https://sawyerhg.wordpress.com/2019/05/12/ti-and-do-transcript-53-lessons-on-following-instructions-as-a-member-of-the-next-level-would/
TI and DO transcript #215 – Re-Establishing The Committal
https://sawyerhg.wordpress.com/2019/05/06/ti-and-do-audio-transcript-215-re-establishing-the-committal-05-09-85/
TI and DO audio transcripts – Mt. Cross CA – 5-22-94 parts 1 and 2
https://sawyerhg.wordpress.com/2019/04/24/do-audio-transcript-combo-mt-cross-ca-parts-1-and-2-5-22-94/
Last Chance to Evacuate Earth Before It’s Recycled – transcript from Do’s videotape
https://sawyerhg.wordpress.com/2015/09/17/last-chance-to-evacuate-earth-before-its-recycled-transcript-from-dos-videotape/
TI and DO – #95 – Listing Our Task – 02-14-1984 (audio transcription)
https://sawyerhg.wordpress.com/2019/04/29/ti-and-do-listing-our-task-02-14-1984-audio-transcription/

Upvoted.com interview with heavensgate.com webmasters and sawyers claims of misinformation

October 30, 2015

Here is a link to an interview the Heavensgate.com webmasters I’m calling M and S gave to upvoted.com. Following the link I included my responses. Those responses should be on the web site as well. In my responses I say certain things M and S said or didn’t say were misleading. I am not implying they intended to mislead, but that sort of thing can I believe begin to slip in, so I hope if they read this they can take it as what might hopefully be helpful criticism and I am open to hearing any criticisms of what I say from them or anyone for that matter and I will see if the “shoe fits”.

An Interview With the Heaven’s Gate Webmaster: Meet Telah, 61

Part One of three of response to M and S interview:

Thank you to the writer and editor for sticking to the facts that have been increasingly distorted as we speak. However, as to the answers to your questions I would like to provide you with my version as I joined Ti and Do from the same meeting in Waldport, Oregon as the ones you interviewed in September of 1975 and was in Ti and Do’s classroom with them until they were told to leave the classroom in 1987 and can be seen in my youth in 3 of the “Beyond Human – The Last Call” video tapes Do had us make in 1992 and was aware of some of the communications with these two in 1993-4 that included offering them a return to the class option if they were willing to abide by the lesson step entitled, “I could be wrong” that they didn’t want to abide by and became the reason they were told to leave. Then I was assigned to be an overseer with my partner of one of the four groups we broke into to bring Ti and Do’s information to the public in a face to face way, for the second time in 19 years throughout the U.S. that began on 01/01/94 and ended in September of that same year which is when all those who were still committed members to include new members were informed by Do that “we might have to exit our vehicle by our own hand”.

We got back to California from where we ended up in Massachusetts and Do told us about the plan to drink a drug mixture to exit our vehicles and went one by one around the room of about 40 something students asking each if they had any reservations. Some did and left the next day or two after that, still in September of 1994. I had no reservations but I was not the person I had been for 18 years before that. It’s a long story that I have made public on my blog http://www.sawyerhg.wordpress.com and my youtube channel: 3spm and other places, but the way I fell was by starting to masturbate, not having even thought about it before that, which was a response to having the ego to ask Ti who was outside her vehicle, but who Do told us we could talk to directly, for a more difficult task like Do had. In other words, she took me for what I asked for and sent me a “booger” (we called our assigned advasaries (satans meaning)) a bigger one than I had been assigned, one that perhaps Do dealt with that I seemed to have no power to resist or even want to resist or even to ask help to resist. Here I had been an overseer in many assignments over the years and then of a group and I was a primary speaker at the 1994 meetings in about a dozen big cities in the U.S., did radio, TV and print media interviews at that time while breaking the biggest rules in the group that were grounds to be asked or told to leave – that of giving into sensuality and then the second biggest reason to be asked or told to leave the group – that of hiding it – being deceitful by not surfacing my “major slippage” (what in the archaic terms would be a sin). Some of my fellow students looked upon me as a good example of Next Level behaviors and ways.

I was often assigned by Do to be a helper to others who were having various difficulties in their conquering of the influences that they needed to gain strength of mind by working against giving into. Do saw my separateness a week or so after I began to fall and asked me what was going on and I spilled my gut to him and he asked me what I wanted to do and I said, I need to expose it to the group which I did and Do said sometimes failure is the hardest lesson to rise above. So I was taken off of the overseer task but then a week or two later Do asked me to perform another overseer task and I told him I couldn’t as I’d be a hypocrite, so he asked me what I wanted to do and I said, “I guess I have to leave”. He replied, “you want to get more objective.” He had me pass the phone to another student and he told her I was leaving and told her to tell the others not to try to talk me out of it because I knew what I was doing. Later Do asked me where I wanted to go and I said I was thinking of taking a bicycle and riding it east. He suggested going to stay with these two in this interview and had the pursers give me $600.00 cash and bought me a plane ticket to Arizona. I was actually relieved to leave, not because there was any abuses or things I wanted to do that I couldn’t do in the group. I had no desires to do anything else. I just wasn’t face with my own hypocrisy.

It took me ten years to know why I left as I’ve stated and in retrospect I see so many signs of how I though of myself as special, stemming from being a youngster and seeing all those Jesus movies that depicted him as a hero. I wanted to be that hero yet I didn’t have a clue what that kind of hero would encounter and how they would never think of themselves in that way. It was a human egotistical way of seeking to be an elevated being others would look up to. I still see that influence with me at times but his characteristics are quite apparent though it’s easy for that Luciferian space alien fallen angel mind to creep in and especially when one has begun a relationship with the same living beings who are the chief administrators of garden earth and who I can offer proof of to anyone who dares to look into, but that is not important to me for anyone else to see value in because I was given another chance after they left to conquer my boogers.

Now I can pick apart a lot of what these two said but three points stand out in addition to not talking about why they were left behind. One is calling oneself by the name of Telah, when it’s clear that abbreviation means, “The Evolutionary Level Above Human”. That would be equivilent to taking the name, “Kingdom of God” or Kingdom of Heaven”, which really more accurately would be translated to “Kingdom of Deities” at the least and “Kingdom in the literal heavens (sky to outerspace elevated areas)”. How can one or two people have one name that represents a Kingdom of Older Members that includes the Chief of Chiefs, the Oldest Member of the Next Level? When I saw that it blew me away, not because it’s a name but because that seems to me to be the same booger who overcame me and my vehicle with myself, the reason he fell away and after being given many opportunities to change went more and more against his Older Members to where he became imprisoned on earth, though useful as a catalyst to challenge upcoming graduates.

Obscurity can have it’s place to try to protect us from those that might do us harm when we have done nothing wrong against the Creators of our world, the Next Level Older Members. But why not be straight forward and say, “my name is “M” and my partners name is “S” for instance or whatever names they choose. Both of them are 61 and one is male and the other is female. When someone like us is doing anything public taking names we weren’t born with is a good thing that Ti and Do taught us, because we don’t want to be interfered with and we don’t want our vehicles families to be adversely affected by our choices when we know there will be some who will hate us.

Then to say “There is no heaven or hell, only an endless cycle of reincarnation” is totally against what Ti and Do taught and anyone can easily prove it by many things Ti and Do and Crew said that you can find posted on heavensgate.com. This is the slant that booger or the equivilent booger puts on the truth to present a facsimile, because Luci for instance, according to Ti and Do resents the Next Level for imprisoning him on earth and will do anything he can do to strike back at the Next Level and plus he needs “souls” and compatible vehicles to his thinking to be his associates.

Part Two of three of response to M and S interview:

Do said the earth is going to be spaded, recycled. He said the earth itself is still a good planet but that the current civilization have become infested by the weeds, what Jesus called “tares” that are actually taking one another out as we speak, the reason we will see more and more corruption and killing in the U.S. from within, because the Heaven’s Gate graduates have exited, so the environment is no longer protected for their sakes and they also turn up the heat, the truth that forces each of us to become exactly what we are. If we thought nasty thoughts – thoughts about doing harm to others, now they can hardly contain themselves to act those thoughts out. And the alchemist meds many are addicted to compound the issues.

No heaven? That sounds like John Lennon, “imagine there’s no heaven, easy if you try” – well I know a friend of a channeler of John Lennon and she says he says the same things now. That’s because the mindset we die with we continue to act out and bring as an influence to others. Now of course we should be civilized enough to not kill one another, to have peace in the way we treat one another. That is the way of the Next Level members to be kind and considerate but that is a toddler lesson step – “thou shall not kill”. Jesus updated that to “turn the other cheek” so that was great that Mahatma Ghandi did and Martin Luther King did and others. But the overall task was to “love the lord god with all your heart all your mind, all your soul and all your strength” that these other lesson steps would lead up to. Saying there is no heaven is like saying, “imagine there’s no planets, no sun above us, above us only nothingness”. The reason turning the other cheek is a lesson step because when one loses their vehicle adhering to a Next Level lesson step as that, means They take that Mind/Spirit into one of their spacecrafts and give it a new task and even a new vehicle because it is the “Mind/Spirit” that is what the garden produces for the Next Level. They don’t need us but it’s their joy to offer what they know they have that is very, very real but it’s a place of work that’s a hoot to be a part of.

No Hell? Hell as it’s used in Revelations 6:8, a huge verse to understand among current events comes from the greek “hades” which is also seen as the equivilent to Pluto. Hell in it’s figurative definition is a place of no return having no longer the potential to become a member of the Next Level. Hades is the Greek god of the under world – It was interesting when the New Horizons spacecraft flew by Pluto this past July and took pictures that showed Pluto to be very much like earth minus the oceans. It has a blue atmosphere, geysers, red ice mountains, deep caverns, a huge white smooth spot and 4 rectangular shaped 200 mile wide black spots that are equidistantly spaced from one another so they look like 4 black piano keys. This is most intersting in light of the movie script Ti and Do directed in 1982 that they said was “fiction based on the truth” where Pluto was a spacecraft that inside it had a scale living model of the earth with observatins decks and stationary spacecrafts at each of four corners. (The four winds?) And they said on it’s north pole that by the way would face away from us as Pluto is on it’s side, there was a huge circular louvered door that would open and close to allow spacecrafts to come and go from. I don’t know if the implication comes across.

And speaking of that Rev 6:8 verse where there is a “green horse” depicted, green actually comes from the greek chloros like chlorine the green powder that kills bacteria (weeds) and represents “harvest green” and the Dawn spacecraft is actually as we speak I believe still orbiting dwarf planet Ceres, named after the roman goddess of the harvest who is the same greek goddess Demeter. I say Do was the Rev 6:2 one sitting on his white horse, the vehicle he made pure but also is seen as white skinned while that was followed by G.W. Bush as red horse a Luciferian space alien is sitting on that brings endless war and that was followed by the black horse Obama a Luciferian was sitting on whose task was to try to ride herd the two beasts (the U.S. and the E.U.) involving the financial crisis that involved the stock market’s commodities prices of “wheat and barley” with lots to say about all this leading up to the next US beast president who will in many ways be GREEN.

I’ve got no beef with M and S actually. We learned to deal with criticism – to wear the shoe if we examine it and it fits. If it doesn’t fit, don’t wear it.

There is no group anymore, like M and S said and suicide never was a solution. In fact one of the classmembers wrote a paper saying that killing one’s vehicle to escape difficult lessons is the real waste as we need our vehicles to learn our lessons. The human kingdom was created as a stepping stone into the Next Level. Suicide is separating ourselves from the Next Level creators of it all because then we won’t be given further opportunities to live both in a human vehicle at the next classroom with an incarnate Older Member which will not then become the opportunity to graduate into the Level Above Human where real life really begins because we are then no longer temporary plant lifeforms. But the formula to please the Older Member which is like pleasing one’s professor, is to “give our life”. How, when and where is up to us but a huge step in that direction in this life is to choose to put yourself in the Next Levels hands, asking to become one of their upcoming students and trusting they will help us separate from our humanness in a way we can handle. There is no pie in the sky. We need to show them we mean business by working for them. That work at this time is to “stand for Ti and Do”, study and believe in all they said and did. We are not going to necessarily understand everything but it will come in time. Events will be helping us towards this kind of choice of who to make our master. We are all going to lose our vehicles eventually. It’s a matter of whose service we are in when we lose our vehicle. Since you all have heard about Ti and Do you are on the spot but each is judged according to what they were given whether they heard about Ti and Do or not.

May Ti and Do’s force be with you all, but you’ve got to ask them for it if you want it.

Part Three of three of response to M and S interview:

This is also a misleading thing to say, “In the mid-’90s, we served as their communication center, which we still do today.” Maybe it’s the way I read it as implying they receive current communication from Ti and Do and Crew and then distribute that to others, which is not the case. They have the task to maintain the web site and respond to queries but anyone who distributes Ti and Do’s information is also then a communication “center”. One should ask them if they are the communication center how come after all these years they don’t provide the hundreds of audio meeting tapes Ti and Do made for the student body from 1982 to 1997. We actually do have about 218 of these but it was against their will that we have them, a long story I don’t care to get into. I have most of the communications they received a short time before the group left because they didn’t want the task at first so turned it over to another dropout believer named rkkody who later layed down his life but not before he made digital copies of 200 or so of the tapes and sent them to people, me included.

Saying 8 were “left behind” is misleading too. All who didn’t leave were dropouts. We left the group. They didn’t leave us until it was clear we didn’t want to be with them. There were zero left behind to carry out tasks but it’s the Next Level way to take advantage of those that still want to serve, even if they can’t make the grade of being in the classroom. We are seeing how the truth becomes distorted in seemingly little ways to where even those who are doing the distortion don’t recognize it necessarily or ignore or think it’s not important to be real wordy about.

I don’t know where the number 8 and 4 came from. But where does the number start and stop. There were about 100 who were students in 1976 when meetings were called to a hault by Ti saying “the harvest is closed”. Ti and Do sent 19 of those out of the group saying they weren’t ready telling the remaining group they “made the first cut”. By 1978 there were no more than 60 original “odys”. That name extension represented those who Ti and Do said were “adopted”. By 1993 that number was down to 24, I suspect mostly representing the prophecy of the 24 elders. Then some who had left were given the option to return and it rose to around 32 that didn’t include M and S. A few more rejoined in 1994 and maybe a dozen new members joined in 1994 but then I fell away as did a few other rejoiners and some of the new ones left to end up with the 38. So I would guess at about 70 total who took a stab at graduating which is interesting in the fact that Jesus had 70 to 82 to 90 something students, counting some of the female disciples we know about.

When M and So were asked, “Where are your directives coming from? Were they left behind for you by leadership prior to their journey?” and they said, “From the Next Level. They left very specific instructions.” that to me is also misleading. Why not say, most of the communications were from Do’s “helpers” that included Lvvody, Jnnody, Lggody and Jwnody and perhaps others like Sngody and Evnody or to keep it short by “Do’s crew of students”. That’s like a politician being asked who voted on the bill and they say, “congress”. I know M told me Do also talked to them but I know the letters that were their primary communication were signed by “helpers” or “pursers” if I recall correctly.

When M and So were asked, “What’s the next step for you? For Heaven’s Gate?” and they answered, “We are to take care of this task. We don’t know when we will rejoin them.” may be assuming a lot. I don’t know if any of the dropouts have it made. Do spoke about “three types of people who would go with them” when the rest are recycled. Primary that included those who had sufficiently completed their metamorphosis (overcoming of humanness) as he referred to the 38 as qualifying. The second type were those who began their metamorphosis but didn’t have the strength to sufficiently complete it to receive significant Next Level service so would have to return to the human kingdom after the recycling to finish. The third group are those who never hear about Ti and Do but are separating from the world in their own way. It seems apparent that we who dropped out who still believe would have to be included in the second type but whether we are satisfactorily “separating from our humanness” and making “significant changes” as Do said as well and “standing for Ti and Do and accepting the consequences” another description of all the types relative to what they were given as Jesus also said was the criteria is frankly not for us to know. After all just like we see in Christianity and Jesus talked about, many will say, “Lord Lord, we prophecy in your name….” but he said he doesn’t know them. Saying the words is a small part and can even morph to “taking the name of the lord in vain”.

When M and S said, “They periodically come down to this planet to check in on this civilizations development.” – Sure that’s true but “check development” is one heck of a lackadaisical image. They are consciously working like crazy doing all things that it takes to bring a group of souls to graduation. Nothing happens by itself when it comes to some souls choosing to grow towards graduation. They are intricately involved with “tagging” human vehicles they plan to “take over” for their task. Before that they work on the human kingdom to produce vehicles that can be a “match” for returning Souls to take over. They work with all levels of life. Ti and Do said it was move up time for all levels of life.

On the question; “I found the statement against suicide on the website fascinating. Why did Heaven’s Gate decide to put this statement out there?”

They knew suicide was what many or even most humans would call what they did, but they knew that really wasn’t accurate in their case but it goes to understanding what LIFE really is – all from the perspective of the Creators in the Level Above Human, which is apparent in the way Jesus also defined life as being (existing) in his Older Members Kingdom, in that record contextually, with and in service to his “Father (Older Member) in the literal heavens (outer space dwelling places)”. Thus death is the opposite – not being in the literal Kingdom in the heavens with one’s Older Members.

Of course if one doesn’t believe in any of this then none of this makes sense. But Ti and Do and Crew of students believed in it 100% and most of the students had been with Ti and Do since 1975 when they were ready to give their life then because they felt like they recognized the truth of what Ti and Do said.

Ti and Do considered every way they might return and every way their students might go to the Next Level, thinking of it in a number of ways, at first thinking they and their students would go back with their human physical bodies.

Even in their last days in those bodies they tried to be prepared for Ti (who was already outside her human body since 1985) to take them with their physical bodies if that was her choice. That’s why they packed a small travel bag with a change of clothes and had their passports and a little money – $5.75 – the amount that came from what Samuel Clemmons writing as Mark Twain said was the fare to ride the tail of Halley’s comet to heaven. He wrote that and produced a short movie that Edison actually filmed called “Captain Stormfields trip to heaven”. We also always had a procedure when leaving our “craft” (what we called the house we lived in) to take $5.00 in case of emergency for a phone call for instance. That’s what I told some reporters the $5.75 probably was which I later learned was wrong.

The companion that was filmed by the Hawaii and a Japanese observatory proven to not be a star in the background of the pic of Hale Bopp wasn’t the reason they chose to exit at that time as I believe your article stated. They even said this on the heaven’s gate web site. They said that the comet was the sign or marker they had been waiting for that told them when to exit.

By that time they had determined that humans against them were not going to do them in the way humans did to Jesus and his disciples.  They also had examined buying a boat and going into the sea to see if the Next Level would pick them up following seeing the cocoon movie and at that time considered exiting by sinking the boat if we weren’t picked up but Do nixed that idea though he did buy a boat we had docked in the Houston area for a while.

In 1989 or so Do instigated a fast on air. We were living outdoors at that time again in the Arizona desert just west of Phoenix. We had a bunch of trailers and two rows of tents that were all connected to one another to make two corridors. We had generators for lights and had two large satellite dishes and were watching all the news we could get from feeds and the evangelicals as we had been considering going public again as “who we are” as the return of the Father, Jesus and his students as promised. But Do wasn’t sure about doing another public mission so off into the desert we went and after one day on air Do changed the fast to add water. 12 days later Do stopped the fast.  I had been ready to curl up in bed and die then, though I learned that some weren’t thinking that was part of what we might do.

So we moved closer to Yuma with our camp and Do felt like we were to wait for a pickup, which was the second time we’d scheduled a specific day for pickup the first scheduled by Ti in about 1980. At that time, the pickup didn’t happen and Ti told Do she felt like she had “egg on her face”, but it didn’t change anything and interestingly some left after that as it had been 5 years since the group formed. In 1975 some students pressured Ti and Do for how long before they would leave. They always thought in terms of “months”. Reluctantly Ti said, “no more than 5 years” which she later regretted saying. But it didn’t phase their core students that there was no pickup and there was no pickup when Do scheduled it either and that didn’t phase the core students either.

Do also paid people to leave the class if they were only staying because it was more comfortable than trying to survive in what Ti called the “real world”. They knew they were creating a type of experimental world for us.

Before that there were two times that Ti and Do encouraged all of us to pay a visit to anyone in the world who had anxiety about us still as we had learned about a network of parents and siblings of our vehicles looking for us to include private investigators.

Most all of us flew somewhere in the U.S. for a weekend with our vehicle’s family. From that, one decided he wanted to leave the group. He returned and spoke with Do about it and I was assigned to partner with him and I don’t recall having much to report to Do. It wasn’t like I was a spy but if something occurred to me to talk about Do wanted to know about it.

So when we had no problems from humans who heard and saw us in our 1994 public meeting/media schedule all over the U.S. no matter how boldly we made the posters to say, it was the same one who was in the vehicle Jesus returned, Do felt like the only option remaining was to self exit as he couldn’t imagine waiting for each member to grow old and die to exit that way.

At one point in about 1990 Do contracted rocky mountain spotted fever and told some of us who visited him he knew that he could leave his vehicle then and that he asked Ti (who was outside her vehicle then) but Do knew was at times very close to him and at other times not so close, (however she might have accomplished that). He said, Ti said he could exit if he wanted to. But Do felt like he couldn’t abandon his task with the students.

A couple years before that he said to the students, “what if I’m not from the Next Level but am a well intended human? Would you all still want to be with me?”. I couldn’t imagine it. Some of the other students were quick to say it didn’t matter to them. I don’t think I knew what to think about it but it didn’t phase me to entertain the question.

In 1993 when the 90 men women and children of the Branch Davidians were murdered by the ATF/FBI I was sitting in Do’s craft with lvvody and jnnody and srrody (my partner at the time) and watching the story live on television. Do and all of us were shocked by it. Do later wondered aloud whether his students would be so dedicated to die for what they believed in, though he didn’t agree with David Koresh at all. It also made him consider if we might exit by provoking the government by having a gun. That was a test to hear but it made me wonder how dedicated was I. I put it on the back burner until it became a reality. I didn’t have a problem with it as I knew we wouldn’t actually try to harm anyone.

In 1996 they were building an earthship house (out of tires) on a property they bought southeast of Albuquerque and they had at least one rifle that strody (then a grey haired woman in her 60’s) did some target shooting of as they were still wondering if they might exit in that way.

They left that gun in storage.

Then in 1995 Rio reported that they were near Tucson and one night 3 students saw two small 4 ft tall looking white beings in the craft. They each saw these two from a different angle. Three other students including Rio felt they dreamed about these two beings in the craft. One report was they were standing by one students bunk where they were sleeping and felt they were helping her. That next morning Do and the overseers were all really smiling a lot and Do felt it was the visit he was hoping the students would raise their vibrations to be able to see.

I equate that with Jesus being visited by two beings of that similar description where three students saw them. That was called the “transfiguration”. Ti and Do felt that was when Jesus had completed changing over his body into a next level body inside.

Ti said early on that you don’t have to die to go to the Next Level. In that context “die” referred to exiting one’s human vehicle, but one does have to “change over” into a Member of the Next Level to go without dropping the vehicle as evidenced in the records by Enoch, Moses and Elijah and in a different context Jesus as his vehicle was healed from it’s dead condition and then he demonstrated taking that same body that was still physical but had new functions into the spacecraft cloaked by the clouds. He said, “I am not a spirit… a spirit doesn’t have flesh and bones”. He ate with them. He let them touch his body and see the remnant of the wounds. And yet he could change his vibrations so that he was invisible to them which one can imagine being like a chameleon against the invisible but very real atmosphere of our  human environment.

Ti and Do initially taught and this never changed, that the human condition was like a caterpillar world and how a caterpillar had the capacity in it to build itself a cocoon to then put all it’s energy into the chrysalis condition which is equivilent to a human being separated from their human world as Jesus and Ti and Do’s students were required to do to be students which meant leaving all that constituted their life at that time – their family, house, career goals, even likes and dislikes to put all their energy into the “process” that was actually the “christing” process as a Christ was someone who “overcame the human world”. If you actually break it down it is an “anointed one” where anointing was the process of “pressing” the oil from the olive. Thus the olive is the human vehicle and the press is putting pressure to extract Next Level Mind through it’s usage. Mind is synonymous with “spirit”. The Next Level literally starts this process by giving select humans (many of them) what is actually a seed called a soul. Do called it a “pocket” or a “container” that wasn’t just a container. It was a smart container in that in had with it a set of programs that provided an interface to other Next Level Members. There are different forms of this container, aka a “chip” as in computer chip. Do said to envision this “soul” one would see the human body as a glass vase that had one balloon extending out of it from the top of the vase that was the container for human mind. When a human is given a “soul container” the vase has a second balloon extending out of it. The second container can only contain Next Level quality Mind. I am only remembering now how Ti used to often say about mixing Next Level and human behaviors and ways as “Oil and water don’t mix”. That is interesting because Jesus compared Water with the human being saying to his students they needed to be “born again of water” in order to be born of spirit/mind that we also know was related to oil.

I suspect Do took seeing those two beings in the craft as confirmation that his plan of exit was approved. I don’t know that and have nothing more to go on so could be wrong about that.

Do told the class he felt those who dreamed it had woke up and were told to go back to sleep.

Interestingly even seeing/dreaming that as the six did, didn’t stop a couple of the new students from the 1994 meetings from choosing to leave the class and one was Rio. He was the one who they sent the fedx that led to his going to their craft to discover their deceased vehicles and who was on the cover of people magazine after that.  Last I heard from him he said he was done with disseminating Ti and Do’s info following the book he published entitled “Beyond Human Mind”.

All this thinking was combined with knowing how Jesus had spoken about laying down one’s life as the greatest way to show love, also saying, “no man takes it (my life) from me – I have the power to lay it down and the power to take it back up again”.

So did Jesus commit suicide even though the high priests and government were the instruments. He chose to turn himself into those who he knew from many evidences wanted to kill him because he was causing their followers to think differently.

Ti and Do were not against euthanasia. They felt if someone was too sick to take advantage of life – to make choices to learn lessons and grow from them then they should be allowed to end their own life.

This idea that suicide is a mortal sin is a fabrication. The law to not kill another human was just that for a human to not kill another human. It had nothing to do with oneself though they were not in favor of suicide to escape dealing with difficult lessons, which is really a big part of the real meaning of suicide. I someone choose to run in front of another to take a bullet they are considered a hero, but if one chooses to self stimulate exit for their idea of God’s it’s fanaticism.

Ti’s exit by dying as Revelations 12 says of her (the woman) – “the earth opened up it’s mouth” to take her, which was a way people had spoke about going to the grave, I believe did introduce Do to considering how they might all exit.

Even in 1992 I was in Do’s quarters in his craft as I was helping move things into a truck as we were moving to another craft, I saw the book by the Hemlock society that is all about ways to kill oneself. Soon after that it became part of the student library though I don’t recall ever talking about it.

As they said, it was the timing of the hale bopp comet with the spring solstice, and ascension time that was their sign to go home by exiting their vehicles. The ascension did occur. It was a spirit birth, that’s unseen by human eyes except by understanding it which remains our choice.

Thus after all they went through, they felt called home by Ti regardless of whether the reported companion was there or not. Had then experienced all that and then chose not to follow through would be like saying “no” to Ti because at that point for them it was time to go so they could get on with the next part of the program.

That’s why I insist it was voluntary for them.

I  have been approached by at least 3 people who told me they believed in Ti and Do and wanted to exit because they were miserable in this corrupt world. I told them they could be making a huge mistake. They were trying to escape learning their lessons. We need these vehicles to learn our lessons through. Do left the option open but said anyone who feels to do that should go to the desert southwest and scream to their heavenly Father to know whether that is right for them.

As I was re-awakening, that included many dreams with Ti and Do and certain classmates helping me with, because I must have needed that help, I got up the courage to ask Do if I should prepare my vehicle to lay down my vehicle as they did. He came to me as clear as a bell the same night and said, “you need to give your life”. So that’s what I am attempting to do and am looking to them for help in each step.

M and S were asked, “Why do you choose to keep the Heaven’s Gate website up and running?” M and S response: “The information must be available to mankind, in preparation for their return.”

Yes, available, but NOT in preparation for their return, though there is a vague truth to that. It’s for NOW – for people now who come to their information and want to know more because the Next Level isn’t done. To not talk about this is denying Ti and Do’s intention all along. For instance why put out a statement, “Last Chance to Evacuate Earth Before It’s Recycled”, a video Do made in September of 1996 that talks about “3 types of individuals” who can go with them, if it didn’t apply immediately, where he also talked about those in type 3 never having heard about Ti and Do? That means even if someone doesn’t ever see the heavensgate.com web site or anything about Ti and Do, they can still qualify to “go with them”.

Now where it is correct to say, “when they return” relates to the records that Ti and Do said “In the seventh closeness… (they said they as the Two Witnesses were the sixth closeness) would be the “completion of the final prophecies in John’s Book of Revelation” adding, “The one who was Jesus will come in at close range (as soon as those who have chosen to change over do it) and receive the elect into his company, for they have been those he has nurtured since the beginning of this civilization.” This was in “A Statement Prepared by The Two” in the book by Hayden Hewes and Brad Steiger entitled, “UFO Missionaries Extraordinary” that was exclusively about Ti and Do and that Ti and Do gave them interviews for. Now this Statement seems to have been written before their first public meetings that began in North Hollywood (Isaiahs “valley of vision” he referred to as Jerusalem) and thus some aspects seem to have had updates, though can also be seen in different ways and especially when one examines the Revelations in this light as it does seem that Do is returning in the vehicle he changed over that was named Jesus 2000 years ago, after the Next Level is “done” with providing hints and clues of their reality to the human kingdom.

When they had their first private meeting in North Hollywood in the home of a leader of a spiritual meditation group in early April 1975 to a packed house there were “several dozen” that wanted to know more so came to another meeting the next night and wanted to leave all behind to follow them which Do reported in “’88 Update – The UFO Two and their Crew” they realized was “… adding up to “followers” – a big surprise and an idea not too welcome as far as Ti and Do were concerned!”. This is further evidence that Ti and Do at that stage in their awakening (a continuous planned but gradual process), before then didn’t think they were to have followers. They thought they would just share the information they were both receiving (separately) until they were “bumped off” as is one translation of the fate of the Two Witnesses in Revelations chapter 11, but turned out they were “shot down by the national press” – another valid interpretation I’ve written a great deal about on my blog.

I’m saying this because in Revelations 14 primarily there are two harvest periods depicted and in a number of places evidence that the first one was 42 students (38+4 later) and that they exited by “falling on their faces in service to deities” (Rev 11:16 and other places) while the second harvest was through the “winepress” that produces bloodshed. – in other words those who tell the truth and meet up with some who hate what they say and seek to kill them to stop them.

(now that hasn’t happened yet because that more or less begins starting with the 5th seal of revelations chapter 6 and we are just coming into the fourth seal with the next presidential election in the US.)

So it is true what M and S said about not knowing when that next return happens, but what was not said that needs to be said is that the criteria for who benefits from the content of the heaven’s gate web site and all the other ways in which people are coming to learn about Ti and Do IS preparation for their return but that prep starts now and will be seen the conclusion of during our normal lifetimes – (said in yet other places) which is getting close to that point, perhaps in the next decade or two even, where M and S made it sound (to me) like it was to become another religion that people would have time to study and make into careers and build cathedrals about – all Luciferian ways to dilute the truth though that the Next Level can make a positive out of.

New Media Lies about Heaven’s Gate debunked and Revelation 16:2 shows why increased violence in U.S.

October 29, 2015

There are two parts to this post. The first is in response to an article I provide the link to at the end of the first part that is one of most inaccurate stories I’ve seen in a real long time about Ti and Do’s Heaven’s Gate group, saying they deprived people of sleep to control them. The article by Alternet.org listed 5 cults. I don’t know about the other 4 cults but they started off with the Heaven’s Gate group that I do know about. It’s almost as if this article went out of their way to not get much of anything right. Even Wikipedia has more accuracy with the basics of the story of Ti and Do. I suspect the author has a beef with anyone who believes in anything outside what they can see with eyes or with a microscope or telescope and that’s fine and I could be wrong about that but the only other explanation for this story I can think of, is that it’s in response, perhaps subconsciously, (on the part of the author or whoever might be behind the author’s task to write it), to the fact that there are more people willing to take a look at what Ti and Do taught. In any case it provided another opportunity to point out how unreliable and biased some in the media can often be and also showed me by the comments to the article how many others are becoming increasingly aware of as well.

The second part of this post addresses the increases of violence in the U.S. in particular and some ideas of why that I doubt one will hear in many other places in this specific way, though I’m not claiming it’s a perfect explanation but it involves Rev 16:2.

Regarding the first part on alleged sleep deprivation: The truth is there was a very short period of time around 1980, some five years after most of us joined with Ti and Do not long after we moved into houses from living outdoors in the wild for years in Wyoming in summer and Texas in the winter, when Ti and Do (the teachers) did experiment with us (the students that chose to follow them) by changing sleep and eating patterns among many things. The primary sleep experiment was to be up for 4 hours and then down to sleep for 2 hours, all day long so we still got 8 hours sleep. I don’t think that lasted more than a week or two before Ti and Do changed the pattern back to a strict 8 hours that we was required during the time we lived outdoors. We also had regular hour long naps when we had the 8 hour sleep schedule and we were instructed to stay in our bunks for the entire time unless we needed to use the “bath chamber” (rest room). (They also changed lots of our terminology). Then a few years after that, they changed it to a mandatory 6 hours sleep a night and a maximum 8 hours. One could get up earlier but all had to go down at the same time.

In both the outdoor and indoor living Ti and Do would often instruct everyone to take a nap. They said during the experiment with the 4 hours up and 2 hours down they saw that peoples brains didn’t work as well and they didn’t like that, contrary to what the article implies. There is so much inaccuracy in that article I’d have to re-write it entirely but it goes to show how easy it’s become to program people to believe the misinformation as we see throughout the governments, religions, spiritual and atheistic, now main stream “cults of mistruth”.

For another example of the article’s mistruth that is probably what is still on Wikipedia, among many other so called “facts” (that they wouldn’t let me change because I have credentials), Do wasn’t at the hospital where he met Ti for his own benefit – (for a heart condition or as a mental patient). He was there visiting a “male friend” the way he put it which we learned from him that he said “male” in “88update” to expose that he had been gay before he met Ti (and by the way became completely non-sexual, though before that he said he was frustrated with not finding a partner who wanted a committed relationship, as he told us on several occasions).

I’m not going to bother saying much more about the article, though I’ll copy this comment to the comment section and send it to Alternet.org corrections email address. If they would issue a total re-write I would help them with it but since there was no sleep deprivation perhaps they’ll do nothing so some will just believe the lies from this so called alternative media group that has become just another form of propaganda, at least in this case.

However, it was refreshing to see among the 20 or so comments that several people, even most, just don’t buy all this hype about cults anymore. Maybe that’s because we don’t see any more big events like this AND more and more see how the media, and governments and traditional religions and new age spirituality and corporations and the military and scientists and entire agencies pull off massive deceptions that often involve direct murder, abuses, neglect, considering the displacements and disease and death of people collateral damage that end up being far nastier than even the worst of the off-track cults. (Note, with every cult you will find leaders that abused and misused people and their power with many examples that have come to light, while Ti and Do the founders of what became known as the Heaven’s Gate cult, though having many dropouts were never even legitimately accused of any such abuses or human conduct.)

The brainwashing is so prevalent and apparent anymore that many see the hype in this article as more propaganda. In fact, more and more many see almost everything as propaganda and even to the other extreme to where many don’t believe the truth when it’s told either as seen by the flurry of reported “false flag” scenarios. That’s another form of illusion that seems to have started with the 9/11 event. On that event as with the JFK story and Martin Luther King story and no doubt many others, it becomes very obvious that the governments story is not at all trustworthy – go figure right – our government is not trustworthy, nor is the media “free”, while all the other freedoms, if we ever really had them, because the history books were written by the Misinformation Cult are disappearing.

I believe I can prove to anyone who wants to really know, that Ti and Do stand apart from all as the only “cult of truth” that looked so bizarre because of the saturation of the Misinformation Cults all through history. Yes, they chose to lay down their lives for what they believed and that is a very serious step to take that was anything but taken without consideration of all the ramifications and that no one was forced into. In fact some were filtered out. I was one of them actually. I can prove that from the 19 years I spent with them, though I dropped out, not because of anything they did or didn’t do, a long story I do tell to those who ask. I then  started a new life but realized after 9/11 (curiously that I have a lot to say about) that I still believed in them so have since re-started my service to the truth which is another long story I’m willing to tell to anyone who asks. But that scenario of having someone who was ready to lay down his life with them, as we began to talk about it directly in the way they ended up exiting their vehicles in August of 1994, who worked with them and had accepted their teachings seemingly as much as anyone, to decide on my own to leave and not show any significant problems re-adjusting to life in the world, getting married and fathering a child and holding down a good job to support the family while re-associating with old family and friends and making new friendships, is baffling to psychologists to consider as I was supposed to be brainwashed and in need of de-programming to fit back into the accepted “cults”. Like I said, it’s because of who Ti and Do really were/are and the fact that they didn’t have an evil manipulating bone in their bodies but to the contrary were no doubt the return of the Father and the One who was called Jesus 2000 years ago that was made into a saccharine religious figure that many bought into.

Here is the article:

http://www.alternet.org/belief/here-are-five-infamous-religious-cults-used-sleep-deprivation-control-their-followers

I received a comment seemingly sarcastic saying that I missed out on the sleep deprivation but did I miss out on the castration and to count my blessings, I guess assuming I had, to which I responded:

No I didn’t miss out on the castration option that some took. In fact I was among the first two who petitioned Do to allow us to be castrated. After a year of petitioning, another classmate and I were given the go ahead. One of the other students was an oncology nurse (Lvvody) so knew the procedure and created a surgically clean room and Do felt to invite me and the other student Srrody to have the procedure there. Do was there and the nurse student and her partner (Jnnody). At one point Do asked me if I had any reservations. I said to him “no, but my vehicle isn’t looking forward to it, but I’m overriding my vehicle”. Lvvody needed to know who was going first to start the preparation. Since we both wanted to go first as we commonly did when we had to choose and the answer didn’t matter, we flipped a coin and the winner of the coin toss got to choose. I lost the flip and Suri chose to go first so I became a witness to his removal of his testicles. There more to this story.

Years later after I left them in September of 1994 when I went public with my experience, following their laying down their lives in March of 1997, where I was on 60 minutes and Larry King Live and Good Morning America and in stories in most all the national media centered in the NYC area, I was laughed at, probably by most in the nation because I was quoted in Time or Newsweek magazine as saying “I lost the toss and didn’t get castrated”. Most people couldn’t imagine legitimately wanting to not be sexual anymore. Little do they know that our giving away of our “life-force” is perhaps the biggest form of reducing our common sense about what is true and what is misinformation regarding what is above and beyond the human evolutionary kingdom and where we all came from initially, the genetic code, big bangs, etc. and how it’s common sense that it’s all the result of direction by Above Human Beings whose environments are not terrestrial unless they have a planet size base or use a planet as a base as seems to be the case on the dwarf planet Ceres that NASA’s Dawn spacecraft just revealed by the apparent abundance of what looks like a cityscape of lights.

Graduation into “heaven” is nothing like the religious teach. Religion is the distortion of the truth actually and is a killer of souls, as well as spirituality, though as all things in the human kingdom can be stepping stones into the Level Above Human IF we grow past them when we are given the chance as is now. This idea of not wasting our force is where the entire idea of moving the kundalini force to one’s pineal gland chakra for greater enlightenment came from, though was distorted to heighten ones SELF like the Luciferian fallen angels instead of moving that “force” towards a stronger relationship with one’s Older Member (aka Heavenly Father) from the Evolutionary Level Above Human, that in the old less accurate terminology was called the Kingdom of God or Kingdom in the literal heaven’s (outer space).

Members of that higher than human level don’t have gender and don’t reproduce. They don’t even have the “plumbing” because they are no longer mammals so part of the lesson to graduate their school is to voluntarily cease stimulating one’s procreative functions of the physical body they inhabit because doing so in mind and body actually builds a type of mind muscle so when willfully born into the Next Level, (what Jesus called a “spirit birth” (a spirit or soul being unseen by others) and they issue you a new physical body that doesn’t have those functions one’s Mind (aka spirit-like software we write by choice of behaviors and ways) would be a match for it and would have the will power to drive it, as to a Member of the Next Level the physical bodies they grow on vines to adulthood are “worn” like the way a human would put on a suit to function in outer space or underwater. They have different bodies for different tasks though they don’t have a closet of bodies to choose from, though their Mind can grow in the Next Level to literally operate more than one vehicle at a time, which Do said his Older Member Ti had the capacity to do so didn’t need to bring all her mind with her to do her part of the incarnate task to “get Do started”.

I know this all sounds like sci-fi but that is because of the dumbing down of the population, largely by promoting constant giving away of their force and ridiculing anyone who chooses not to. Human reproduction was not a necessity and we are seeing that more and more by the hybridization programs the space aliens have been performing for decades or even millennium (See Genesis chapter 6) on and off when they are let out of their underground prison cells to become catalysts for a new Next Level classroom that is actually an astronaut training program, that used to be called, “overcoming the human world”.

Ti and Do knew all this like the back of their hands and then when I began to study certain things Jesus said, the real Jesus not the myth Jesus that most Christians have been programmed to believe or disbelieve in, I saw that Jesus actually spoke favorably as a choice to “make oneself a eunuch for the Kingdom of Heaven’s sake”. He also talked about cutting off one’s own hand or plucking out one’s own eye to enter into life with only one hand or one eye RATHER than miss out on the opportunity to evolve beyond the human kingdom, the only future that can exist for any human, that won’t seem like reality if one is not willing to at the very least consider it and go after further thinking in that vein. Of course the misinformation promoters will say Jesus didn’t really mean that but if one really looks into it, it is quite apparent that he did. It had nothing to do with being religious. It was a choice that had a practical application as the seeds we sow now are building blocks of our new Mind that if it meets the graduation requirements during the time when an Older Member was once again in the flesh “wearing a human vehicle” as was the case with Ti and Do, who are also waiting to hear from some now if they want to apply to be really saved for the next “overcoming classroom” program instead of being recycled in the upcoming spading of the garden (to include the spirit world and the Luciferians) as the weeds have all but taken over the Next Level’s garden and made it almost impossible to see the truth through their smoke screens.

I do count my blessings. Having another opportunity is the blessing as I flunked out of my first opportunity. We each have that same opportunity and is the reason the world is becoming more apparently corrupt and polluted and inhospitable to anyone with consciousness, that is for those that don’t bury their heads in the sand looking to be soothed by religion and spirituality or by keeping focused on building a career or with entertainment or with procreation and raising a family and/or taking care of their own.

A tiny few will hear what I am saying and it will turn on a little light, but then they must reach up to get more of that light or lose it. The way to reach up for that light is to learn everything you can about the real story about Ti and Do instead of the mindless belief that they were the same as all the other cults and if they do that and have the guts to even ask Ti and Do if they can become their student, though in one’s privacy since they are no longer in physical human bodies, but have excellent technology to hear the thoughts when directed to them especially, then they will let you know in some subtle unobtrusive way that they heard you and will give you further opportunities to grow. The formula is the same as it was spoken of by Moses and by Jesus – to love the Lord with all your heart, all your mind, all your soul and all your strength – which means as Jesus said, to “deny yourSELF”, “pick up your cross (burden)” – because when one tells others the formula they will hate you as they hated our Older Members when they were incarnate saying the same things and “follow” the Older Member’s behaviors and ways and if one is incarnate literally go with him, leaving all behind to do so to begin to learn what it means to “give all your love”. It’s not accomplished by joining a monastery or going to find a cave in the Himalaya’s. How fast one chooses to move in that direction is up to each of us but the process begins by putting ourselves in the hands of the Older Member from the Next Level. They will help us separate from our human worldliness in a way we can handle if we don’t fight the process but will not be easy either as it’s actually the hardest thing a human can do but in a step wise way looking to the Older Members for every step it is Do-able.

I’m not talking suicide. It wasn’t really suicide for those 38 that laid down their bodies. They are actually against suicide, but they would define it as choosing not to be with their Older Members when they are called though not all necessarily grasp that perspective at the same time, so there are multiple opportunities to rise up to conquering whatever there is that separates us from our Older Members. Thus for those 38 who all had a previous human life experience with an incarnate Older Member when they passed those grades in school, they were ready. For those it was actually natural because they had grown to know they were not the vehicle they were wearing and that they could trust their Older Member who was incarnate with them, so they didn’t have to guess at what he would say.

We who remain have a different task that also entails “giving our life in their service”, which is to believe everything they taught and “stand for Ti and Do” and look for help to make significant changes. Taking those steps is a huge step and does begin one’s separation from their human kingdom roots. There is no pie in the sky. We have to earn their Mind coming to us as they don’t need us. It’s their joy to offer what they know is actually more real than what we experience in the human kingdom. But we each must be brought through the eye of the needle so to speak and we need a strong relationship to them to do so.

There is no new cult nor leaders nor things you must buy. All the information Ti and Do brought which is a huge amount is free for the taking for now at least. It will never be popular unless it’s once again twisted beyond recognition of what it was meant to represent though at this time that’s unlikely to occur and that’s especially clear with the city like lights seen by NASA up close on the dwarf planet Ceres and the earth like geology of Pluto that in 1982 Ti and Do directed in a movie script a story they said was “fiction based on the truth” that included the idea that Pluto was a Next Level base that had within it, seemingly coincidentally, a working model of the Earth they called the “earth lab” and had a huge door that would open and close in a louvered fashion to let space crafts large and small in and out. Note, in the first pictures from NASA’s New Horizon spacecraft on flyby of Pluto this last July of 2015 was pictured four approx. 200 mile wide rectangular black looking openings equidistant from one another looking like 4 black keys of a piano keyboard. There is a lot more to report on this.

As it turns out both Ceres and Pluto are part of the translation options of “green” (Demeter/Ceres – goddess of the harvest) and “hell” (hades/Pluto) in the projected plan for the conclusion of the current civilizational garden on earth referred to as the Book of Revelations the Next Level Crews are in the process of seeing to total fulfillment that shows all the direct relationships of Ti and Do’s teachings to all the teachings of the Father and Jesus and of Jehovah and Moses, because Ti and Do are those same Older Members from the Next Level returned as promised in the role of the Revelations chapter 11 Two Witnesses who were shot down by the press in 1975 as the UFO Two, UFO Cult, as they said the bible’s “cloud of light” was a physical spacecraft today we would see as unidentifiable. There is a great deal more to this as well.

Space aliens that have been reported in the bible and in many other cultural records, cave drawings, ancient astronauts, etc. are human and human equivilent descendants from the original “fallen angels” and are all referred to as Luciferians as they share the same Mind that is misinformation. They are really not “space” aliens anymore because they are all grounded to earth. Earth is their prison and their prison cell for a great deal of the time in between being let out to provide a catalyst for growth to upcoming members to the Next Level is literally under the ground and/or under the sea. They are the Revelations “beast” in combination with all the humans in the governments their apparent presence has become the motivation for the entire space program, though does so in all ways human – quest to explore, search for certain elements, like G.W. Bush said that we might find that will “boggle the mind” (because he already was privy to the existence of elements that could be used to drive a zero gravity engine).

Ti and Do said that all the prophecies of Revelations would be fulfilled and they spoke about the return of Jesus as the 7th closeness where they were the 6th closeness which is seen in Revelations chapter 19 as the rider of the white horse (in this context a spacecraft) with a pure clean white body “dipped in blood” which seems to be a reference to the vehicle the Older Member changed over into a Next Level vehicle 2000 years ago and levitated into the spacecraft hidden behind cloud cover, just as was demonstrated in the Moses camp by Jehovah when he would physically come and go to his tent dwelling. There is a lot more to say about this.

PUTTING THIS ARTICLE ASIDE, I WANT TO BRING UP SOME OBSERVATIONS OF HOW THE FURTHER DETERIORATION OF SOCIETY BY VIOLENCE, ESPECIALLY IN THE UNITED STATES IS DRAMATICALLY ESCALATING AT THIS TIME.

I heard on NPR today a talk about why the murder rates have gone up considerably in many big cities where they had been down for a while. I wanted to call in and tell them why I think it’s happening but they would probably never buy it, publically at least, but I’ll start with a reason they could be, at least willing to consider, which happens to be related to Ti and Do and Crew’s exit in 1997. In so many words, Ti and Do said the Next Level was holding back the human ugliness and resulting security state from rearing it’s head to allow their “overcoming of humanness classroom” to have all the time they needed, to avoid potential disruption of what they needed to have time to accomplish. In other words which is according to Jesus prophecy, time and opportunity to have the “dead in Christ”, those who “gave their lives” in service to Jesus, who all returned to complete their overcoming of their remaining humanness, to “rise first” meaning “resurrect” – “stand up again”, having two meanings of 1) FIRST to rise in the taking and standing in a new human vehicle and 2) first to take it over and overcome it to include their clinging to their life in that vehicle, both of which only works for good when it’s for and under the direction of the Older Members, Ti and Do. Humans can accomplish the same things and even give their lives for a variety of causes but it’s not necessarily seen favorably by the Next Level for doing so. For instance giving your life by taking up arms against someone may not be something the Next Level looks favorably upon though I do believe if one seeks forgiveness they can get it but they will have to show the Next Level they mean it, as do we all without whatever ways we “miss the mark” (sin). I say this because Jesus said the only unforgiveable sin was railing against the Kingdom of God and the truth.

I can see two more immediately applicable reasons for the increased violence.

1) More and more people are rebelling in every which way because whether they can address the cause or not, they have been so inundated with lies and prejudices and bigotries and aware that there is no “justice” in the so called just American society really, (except in very isolated cases that are highlighted to give the semblance of justice) together with a tiny fuse on all their built up anger against the system and against anyone who tries to hold them down, together with disrespect for so called law and order, hopelessness and awareness that violence seems to be an acceptable way to solve problems and even appear to be a demonstration of bravery and purpose, even if it’s to fulfill the devil’s role as the latest Oregon school shooting said.

2) The alchemist (true sorcerers) chemicalization of the mind and body in the forms of all kinds of drug addiction – not even primarily to heroin, or meth or crack or coke as much as to the legal drugs prescribed by the boatload that all have side effects and combination problems that can easily render the user into a zombie like hallucinogenic state, combined with having little self discipline and less and less regard for life and more and more resentment of anyone who seems to have money, power, popularity, success, happiness that can all contribute to a powder keg most anything can trigger that sets off a violent response to as we have seen in the many school and other public mass shootings and especially in the latest event with a woman who just lost her job, had just gone off her meds for some mental condition and drove her car into a parade in Oklahoma killing at least 4 and injuring 40 or more and some are in critical condition from. It is a fact that all the school shootings were by individuals who were on meds.

This is the first test period (calamity/plague) that the Next Level planned (forecasted) recorded as their first angel pouring out a vial/bowl on the earth inhabitants. I equate that word vial to a vial of medicine, which is a term Ti and Do used for a lesson step. In this case the events that transpire as a result of what the Next Level crew does or doesn’t do shows those who witness the events and hear the truth about how it is showing up as being fulfilled, correlates exactly with the timing, events and teachings (their prophecy (speaking the truth)) in the return of the Revelations Two Witnesses as Ti and Do, that can help them wake up to the whole truth about what’s really happening. (Meanwhile the view that most Christian interpreters of scripture will say provides another viewpoint that many will gravitate to as it doesn’t really challenge anyone to seeing anything really new as they often have pat ideas of how all the Revelations prophecy are to be interpreted that range from having already been fulfilled even as early as 70 AD to being so symbolic there is no chance of ever seeing anything in a literal application, except in a highly general way of showing the arrival of “birth pangs” in the “end times”. Everyone is so saturated with end time apocalyptic talk, it’s a joke for many while it’s illusion for many while it’s happening but without knowing how they fit into it or not and how many prophecies tie in to all the others that are repeated from different vantage points throughout the Revelations writings and correlation with what Jesus and Old Testament prophets said. So in a sense the Christian interpreters say many of the same things I’m saying, even interpreting events literally, as in seeing wars and rumors of wars and earthquakes and hail and fires, etc. but with no overview of timing that shows all the prophecies’ literal application. This is because few others have the “key” though many even say we don’t get the key until Jesus returns but if they never know how to identify him then they will never see the key that works to unlock the doors that are then left as a mystery of what’s behind it.

The key is that Ti and Do are the return of the Father and Jesus together as the two witnesses in new names in new bodies to speak (prophecy) directly “plainly” (without parables this time) which can not be done from the clouds though they try to make sense out of that even though the same sense was provided when looking for the Moses return when he said, “like me” would be the return – “from among you” in other words in the flesh again, which they were looking for but had in mind it would be from among the Jewish priestly class because they had become so full of themselves and their religiosity that they couldn’t imagine his coming as a peasant working class carpenter. So Ti and Do come and don’t primarily talk religious Christian jargon that is actually the distortion of what was meant, so they miss him during the incarnate stage and become the ones Jesus referred to as the “last”. The ones who think themselves to be first to see his return then become the last to see his return, that is if they see his return at all. But they are at least given the chance to see but many are tricked by the lower forces to expect something entirely different.

Now regarding at least this first “plague/calamity”, it seems that Ti and Do and crew are not making people act the way they are, nor are they the cause for people’s depression and irritability and hatreds, except in how their closer presence and attention while in their Next Level bodies and spacecrafts that emit the truth/light stimulates people to “become exactly what they are”. In other words where someone may have had thoughts wishing they could kill someone before, now at this time they will be more prone to acting it out because it’s like putting a very strong light/heat source closer to a bee hive or ant hill. The increased frequency and even literal electromagnetic energy it stimulates that is even literally stimulated by things the Next Level can do with the Sun, forces us to act out the content of our soul or spirit.

The truth is that human beings are literally a type of plant, a valuable one to the Next Level in how they can become the stepping stone/footstool a soul/spirit/mind from the Next Level can overcome and take over to yield the Next Level fruit instead of morphing to a weed that can serve yet another purpose as a catalyst like fertilizer that in controlled doses can help that upcoming fruit flourish by growing stronger to combat.

Thus many people have been manipulated and in most cases didn’t know any better but found themselves trapped into a dead end agenda that, though people hate to hear this is literally a result of the failed leadership from the Luciferian fallen angel space aliens and their minions both through their direct descendants in the flesh that are also thought of and seen as space aliens (though they can’t actually get very far away from earth anymore, the reason why they are pushing humans to develop the ways to do so, the reason for continued nuclear energy, even though it’s against the health of the populations) and humans who they have motivated and enslaved in all ways that we define as either SECULAR and/or SPIRITUAL in prophetic terms, the BEAST and/or it’s IMAGE. (See Revelations references galore but note that some translations to “BEAST” is misinformational as there are two Greek words both largely translated as Beast when one should be “Living Being” and refers to student worker members of the Next Level). However, these last seven calamities are designed in such a way that all have yet another chance to see through their manipulations but if they have no desire to pay attention and search for meaning and give identity to the Creators then they will by their own choices miss that opportunity and will succumb to the directions from the BEAST and/or false prophets of religion and spirituality (the Beasts Image) that translates to remaining engulfed in human behaviors and ways, thinking and self centeredness. And they will meet their end as all do, except their spirits will be recycled where those that do seek out the truth and push to “change their mind” the true meaning of repentance and don’t accept the programming from the BEAST and it’s Image in the form of accepting the various markings that are being instigated more and more as various security measures.

With that said, here is the first angels pouring out of their vial, with double parentheses ((…)) showing the Greek word translation options from Strongs and/or Thayers Hebrew and Greek dictionaries that help me to broaden the view to consider. Some Christians will say this is devilish to consider different words. Others have said to me, you have to take the first translation option listed which is just as illogical as if that occurs in any language translation to another language. For instance take the word “heaven”. It has application as “sky, elevated areas, the firmament – the area where the Sun and Moon are and/or the Stars and even the Abode of God and a location where spirits go”. The context means a great deal and where all the meanings came from interplay, their etymology and then of course what the person doing the translation thinks about that word and it’s literal verses figurative possible applications. Also I use square brackets […] within double parentheses to show my thoughts and interpretation:

Rev 16:2 And the first went, and poured out his vial ((bowl)) upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore ((1668 helkos probably from helkuo 1670= an ulcer (as if drawn together))) upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image ((1504 eikon from eiko 1503= faintness as a copy, likeness, (literally) statue, profile, or figuratively a representation, resemblance)).

The sores are actually translated as “ulcers” which is the exact terminology used to describe the lesions Dr. Wakefield and his eleven associate doctors documented among the 10 autistic children that became his patients. These lesions were throughout their intestines and in some measles virus that was injected into them was found in the lesions. This was most interesting to learn and as he also concluded and I’ve seen a great deal of research on there is no mistaking the “gut to brain” connection because it’s through the gut that the body absorbs substances into the blood that then travels throughout the body. If the particles are small enough to pass through the blood brain barrier, which heavy metals are and they lodge in places that change the electromagnetic balances, as heavy metals still in many vaccines and pharmaceuticals definitely do, then depending on the dosage and the frequency and the diet to cleanse it out or not, that has to do with the quality of the food, water and air supply and according to what the mother did in her life and her ancestors and what both parents were subject to and extend in thought, words, behaviors and ways all contribute to degrees of disease that can surface in all ways at any time throughout everyone’s lifetime.

Those that fall in line with everything they are taught and told by the government and institutions of so called higher learning and don’t question things and look for other points of view but accept what’s easiest to come by and that gives satisfaction to be a part of for prestige or profit or self assurance and come to trust and believe in, most often become the people that are the biggest programmed product of the BEAST who are all those who tow the line for those governments, their institutions and corporations. They are also those who are most accepting of the MARKS of this BEAST, of course for practical concerns and reasons but as Jesus said would be showing themselves as the “tares”, the facsimile of the wheat/corn the Next Level plants that the Luciferian fallen angel space aliens and all in league with them know it or not planted. That’s not to say any of us can judge who fits into this category or not as even if someone does accept most everything the authorities say, whether secular or religious or humanist, and they justify certain BEASTly ways or solutions to problems that could even involve killing other humans, they might still change before they die. Death does solidify their minds allegiance.

So how do we escape these ill effects. Well, one can think they can go to a cleansing diet, eat organically despite the cost hoping the quality is better, eat and drink less concoctions and reduce the ingestion of stimulants, use “super foods”, fast and those things can certainly help. They can try to use mediation and yoga for mind/body balance and healing and get plenty of exercise, move to the mountains and away from the densely populated and polluted areas and that can help. They can filter their water and limit electromagnetic exposures, use herbs and acupressure and acupuncture and chiropractic and other naturopathic and homeopathic remedies and those can all help. And one can choose which allopathic treatments and drugs and therapies to use and that can help as it’s not about all or nothing. We can meditate on peace and love to reduce stress and try to choose employment that is less stressful and solely money related and that can help. We can adhere to a religion – take one’s pick or take the best from them all and that may help in some ways to have community with like minded people but in the end those things could all fall into the category of the “image” in that Revelations 16:2 verse.

The biggest key word I can think of to describe what the use of the word “Image” represents is what today is called “spirituality” and includes all belief systems to include Christianity because they are all a facsimile, appearance, representation, resemblance, imagination and illusion (all synonyms of the greek word “eikon and eiko” translated to Image) of what is “true” and “real”.

What else is there then, one might ask? Well for those reading this the answer is very simple though it’s the hardest thinking to consider and believe in. It’s to project one’s desires for the truth and choose to put themselves in the hands of the highest beings they can imagine exist who created the universe and all it’s life forms, who exist in deep outer space and who most recently came “in the flesh” aka incarnate (and have since exited those flesh bodies by dying) and used those bodies they chose to call Ti and Do, to speak to us directly about; WHERE THEY ARE FROM (the literal heavens – all of outer space is their home which can be inside a spacecraft as big as Pluto or Ceres for example or as small as a piper cub, depending on their task assignments), WHO THEY REPRESENT (the Chief of Chiefs – the Oldest Member of the Next Level, who we aren’t designed to understand where he came from), WHY THEY ARE HERE (to give us the opportunity to apply for membership in the only evolutionary step beyond the human condition, which requires an evolution (growth) of Mind to accept their Mind (information) and replace the misinformation mind of the renegades to their world that they allow to exist on earth to provide us the choice to remain part of the human family they are also a part of or to become a Member of their Next Level Above Human family) and WHEN THEY WILL LEAVE (when they have offered what they know they have that’s beyond human to all who want it). For those who don’t read this, they are judged by the Older Members in the Next Level according to what they are exposed to and are capable of understanding and what they think, say and do, how they behave towards others and thus how they SHOW their allegiance to the Next Level regardless of what terms they use to describe the Next Level. When they pray if they are praying for truth then that request goes to the place where Ti and Do are.

In their Next Level Above Human society they use physical bodies that they grow on a vine to maturity that their Mind (a Soul that graduated the human evolutionary condition by overcoming all their humanness while in a Next Level “classroom” designed for them by the current Older Member who comes incarnate) wears like we would put on a space suit or diving suit that allows them to function in the physical realm their Older Members created and they have different vehicles (bodies) for different tasks. They work in crews on spacecrafts that are laboratories of all sorts. They are not mammalian though look humanoid but have no gender, nor plumbing (no reproductive organs or digestive organs), don’t eat though can receive nutrition from a light source, but is the reason they designed us to appear like them. We look like them, they don’t look like us. They don’t look anything like the monsters portrayed in the alien movies except for having a slightly larger head and eyes, small frame and white true lack of coloration (a Caucasian is not really white just like a person called black is not actually black, but are all a shade or shadow (hue) of “man” (Hebrew, adom). No humans is any closer or further away from related to the Older Members in the Evolutionary Level Above Human because of what their vehicle (body) looks like. It’s their behaviors and ways and recognition of the fact that we are all part of the creation that was directed to come about through ion’s of experience and experiments. Even automatic looking evolutionary processes came about through the direction of intelligent Above Human beings and the space aliens are also human equivalents.

It’s not pleasant to watch all that’s happening but we all have to be faced with the truth. Life will not be returning to some other form of normalcy though this period too shall pass but not until the entire “garden like” civilization as we know it is spaded and recycled so the Next Level can start over because the current “garden” is infested with “weeds” rending the planted fruit more and more incapable of growth (to see/understand the truth and respond positively to it).

Are Luciferian space aliens and the BEASTs (US and EU, etc.) generating holograms – REV. 13 IMAGES

October 24, 2015

I’ve been ignoring this report for the last week but then took a look and saw that the report made mention of NASA’s alleged Project Blue Beam which is said to be Hologram technological development that can show images in the sky as if the atmosphere and clouds become a screen.

(The report link is below – but essentially it shows what looks like a city scape among the clouds reportedly seen by many on several occasions in China).

The use of the project would be to rally support or sow seeds of further confusion and illusion regarding space aliens and the Christian and other religious ideas about the end of the world and the show of the messiah, the Madhi or the Maitreya and/or returned Jesus “face” in the clouds that many expect that is suggested in prophecy as “miracles and wonders” produced by the BEASTS that are the U.S. and the E.U. and by the “false prophets” embodied in all the religious and spiritual teachers and their staunch allies, to include secular humanists and space alien “brother” followers.

And in the prophecy in Rev 13 is shown the “miracles and wonders” and “fire from the sky” the Beast does before the eyes of humans to trick them into seeing that as evidence of a space alien invasion they are also tying into the cityscape like lights on Ceres that really can not be denied. And then also in Rev 13 there is talk of the “image” that becomes worshipped along with the BEASTs and the False Prophets that has several facets but includes these hologram projections. I suspect NASA as part of the DOD got their technology among other things from the space aliens which was first demonstrated in the Fatima sightings that would have been space alien generated then.

Ti and Do said that Fatima sightings were “tricks” by the lower forces among many such seeming “miracles” that today we wouldn’t really see as a miracle but many can still be fooled by.

It’s possible CERN is also involved in some of this as they now have a huge device that they say is receiving energy from the sun but who knows if it is also capable of projecting its energy generated by it’s particle collusions as there have been some very, very unusual cloud and energy movements/formations above that little town closest to CERN.

In case this is too much to consider, if anyone recalls that huge type of hologram that was shown during the time when Obama was given the Nobel peace prize in Oslo, Norway simultaneous to a big so called environmental conference that I believe is not really concerned with global warming but is a front for nations to rally together against the alien threat they KNOW exists.

I believe it’s either the space aliens and/or humans with that hologram technology that produced the Norway spiral “blue beam” event. It’s amazing how this is all in the revelations prophecy without a stretch and most of it really came into focus with the sighting of the “temple” (dwelling of Members of the evolutionary Level Above Human) in the heavens (outer space) on Ceres and Pluto and how that all ties into the “green horse” of the upcoming next US beast’s presidential election where green is related to Demeter, the goddess of the harvest, the time we are in for the second phase of harvest following Ti and Do and Crew’s exit by 1997 when all these events and more really went into full swing that are not by far over yet. We are each faced with showing our allegiance to these BEASTs or to Ti and Do (since any who read this will be exposed to Ti and Do).

There is no other choice and those who choose to align with the BEASTs, etc. and the war against the so called “bad aliens” on CERES (who are really the Creators of ALL of everything, even the option to be against them) are going to be subject to meeting their end by that alignment as we see by people “living by the sword then dying by the sword” and other such alignments. Like Jesus said, the “tares” will be removed from the garden”.

The tares are those who were seeded by the Luciferian fallen angel space aliens. They are a facsimile of the “wheat” the Next Level above human kingdom of God, kingdom in the literal heaven’s plant which reminds me of how these GMO crops are a facsimile of the real food the Next Level provided seed for.

Nothing happens without direction and the aliens are always trying to get humans to mimic the way the Next Level has directed all that exists and they fail at it horribly but appear to be competitive. This is all the war in the heaven’s in progress. The war is for souls and the choice is ours whose side to be on. I suggest we each choose carefully.

http://www.adelhi.com/ufo-or-mirage-floating-city-in-china-observed-above-the-clouds/

Talking about Ti and Do (Jesus) in the Christian tongue is the focus of the 7th Angel’s Trumpet sounding

September 3, 2015

I happened upon a YouTube video of a play about Jesus called something like “Heaven’s gate and Hell’s flames” and saw that it was probably one of these mega church presentations and at first thought it was going to be a spoof on religion but then saw it was serious and was hard to watch knowing what I know about the truth of where what they were saying came from and how it’s such a distorted picture anymore. However, I have to feel for them as like Do said, they “hardly stood a chance”. So I left a comment exactly as below that is my attempt at interface as without this type of interface I don’t think they do have much chance of waking up to reality. I know that makes it sound like I’m a big shot so I expect to get flack even from Ti and Do believers who think I’m just trying to build myself up thinking we have a task to talk to Christians in their tongue at least in part so they can have a chance to recognize the truth that otherwise they have already classified as new age Luciferian mysticism, etc. The older folks may not be able to wake up much anymore. I don’t know of course but I have already seen how some of the younger folks may have an ear for the truth.

This is not designed. I can’t seem to design one way to say it. I also think at this time it’s crucial to helping some come to Ti and Do’s truth to bring the fact of the city on Ceres to the fore in every communication – and even showing how it’s in the Revelations prophecy for this time period we’re in, in the verse about the Green horse (mistranslated as pale horse) though it may be like “greenish” or pale green, the color of a new shoot.

So here’s the comment I left:

I just happened upon this video and I’d bet you are decent Christians but I have to give you and others a chance to see the real Jesus. I can prove that he already came and left in his phase one incarnate return as one of the Two Witnesses.

To consider this will be a huge step to take, but I know without a doubt it’s true and can support it by using EVERYTHING Jesus, Elijah and Moses and Daniel said and experienced and can bring up to date in the Book of Revelations, while you will have all the opportunity you want to deny it. The true test is whether you will ask Your Heavenly Father if it’s the truth and to help you accept it.

The other of the Two Witnesses was Jesus Father as depicted in Revelations 12 who came incarnate in a female body and went back to his station after helping her “son” become born to the throne task. They took the names Ti and Do and you could easily dismiss them for a variety of reasons you have been taught but it’s the truth and like I said, ask “Our Father” who we were taught by Jesus to pray to.

If you ask your friends and family or pastors or priests, they will not help you know of the truth I am revealing. You will be confronted with many tests but there is help through talking to your Heavenly Father to get through each one. They Ti and Do serving as the Two Witnesses were subdued (overcome) in 1975 by the national media (the mouthpiece of the beast) and then they did “exit by dying” the real meaning of the Greek apokteino in Rev 11:7 that was mistranslated to “kill” and then additional verses were translated as if they were killed adding words to round out that understanding. I don’t blame them as they didn’t know better and it took Ti and Do coming to  show the truth not by telling us how to interpret the bible, because they didn’t justify what they said and did over 24 years with the bible as they were where the bible came from so they spoke “plainly” of the kingdom and of the Father and this time the returned Jesus “showed us the Father” as he said he would do upon return with his new name also telling us the fathers name.

Do was the Rev 6 One who sat on the white horse and took his first fruit returned saints with him back into He and His Father’s Kingdom. The earthquake that followed their “spirit birth” ascension (never was meant by Jesus to think was an ascension of physical bodies) was the 9/11 attack the first fall of the new city of Babylon, New York City through the direction of the “red horse” where the horse was the human body the dragon was sitting on called G.W. Bush. The second fall was the financial crisis started by the Bush regime but put into Barak Obama’s hands, his being the “black horse” trying to balance the two camps of the republican conservatives and the democratic liberals amidst the changes in the economy still rippling through society though recovered as said in Rev 13.

We are about to see the Green horse that brings death and hell (hades=Pluto (Demeter=Ceres) and the lights on the dwarf planet Ceres NASA just has been photographing that Hubble first saw in 2004. Yes, lights and even a city or base. The people on Ceres are not space aliens.

The space aliens are the fallen angels first depicted in Rev 9:1 being let out of their underground prison cells. Those are the Luciferians – dragon, serpent – hissers – deceivers capturing the new age community and the religious and the spiritual and the atheists and the pagans all. They were grounded to earth so they are not on Ceres. Remember how Paul said that in heaven one would have a “celestial body”, the reason Jesus proved he was still physical upon coming out of the grave yet showing that he could change his vibrations of his body to appear to be invisible and could defy gravity by hovering over the sea and then rising up to his physical transportation behind the clouds at his departure sticking to the way Jehovah came and went. And remember Jehovah was also physical and proved it to Moses, letting him touch him. Members of the Kingdom of God in the Kingdom of the literal heavens are not mammals, the reason Jesus said we would have to decide who we serve (worship) between “God and Mammon”, where mammon is treasure/wealth in all it’s human facets, monetary, humanitarian, environmental, family, intelligence, artistry – all things of the human mammalian kingdom level.

They created the human kingdom as a stepping stone to membership in their kingdom but one had to overcome all their humanness to graduate and that could only be done when the Older Member from that kingdom came in carnal (flesh) to show us the way. He is the way but what that meant is doing all he said to do which included “denying self”, “taking up your cross” and “following him literally” by in the present context learning everything he (Ti and Do) said and “taking a stand for them”. Prayers to one’s Heavenly Father go to Ti and Do and their crew of graduates who are working to finish up the harvest that entails our having to go through the tribulation. When that is done He (Do, who was Jesus) comes back again but not incarnal this time but very apparent (in his glory – brightness as the sun)  but the world will see him and his armada as space aliens or die from heart failure or be hiding from HIM in the underground cities that are being constructed more and more as  we speak, that is if they haven’t begun to recognize that he came in the new name of Do. The names  Ti and Do being from the musical notes (song) came from the sound of music they felt the Kingdom of God used to help them awaken to their task.

I’ve got a huge amount of proof of all I am saying. It’s not a story I or they made up. I failed to graduate with my class but have a second chance and am providing the understanding of how to see the truth in all the prophecy and Jesus teachings speaking to you all in the tongue you most identify with though you must rise to see how it’s not as accurate a depiction of reality as the tongue Ti and Do spoke in that said the Kingdom of God was actually, The physical Evolutionary Kingdom Level Above Human. That’s not Darwinian evolution which is not accurate though has some merit. I hope for your sake you can hear what’s being said here. Test it but for your sake give it your best and you will awaken more to reality. But most of all ask help from your Father who is in the literal heavens throughout deep space.

Creationism verses Evolution – ignorance on both sides of the equasion when the truth is apparant.

June 27, 2015

The following is my first introductory stab at a debate of creationism verses evolution I was requested to engage. I find this to be largely archaic to consider debatable in this day in age but it’s been so masked it’s good to try to lay out some of the key points that cut through that masking IF one wants to cut through it or even thinks there is something to cut through. I wrote this on the fly so like most of my blog posts it’s far from perfect and was geared to someone I knew had a certain amount of history with some of the subject matter while being of an atheistic leaning. I didn’t intend on introducing Ti and Do to him at first but then I thought, what’s the point if I don’t as without Ti and Do in it, it just becomes another opinion amidst many, which of course even with Ti and Do in it, it also is but at least presents the bottom line for this self judgment time.:

The way I see it there is really no difference between what is termed creationism and evolutionism as both acknowledge a “process of development and changeability” and as we know from mounds of experience as humans, no development occurs without developers. No one can give any example of anything of value coming about without developers, at least on little ole planet earth. So sure a big bang could have started it all off for this planet, solar SYSTEM, galaxy of systems within systems within systems…. And why would we not think the earth could have been terraformed by Beings just like humans right now are looking for planets or moons or dwarf planets of whatever label one wants to put on objects in outer space with some idea of doing the same with. That’s just logic 101 to at least consider it. It’s those that reject even considering such a thing that are doing so out of ignorance regardless of how many degrees they have and many of those will privately talk differently than publically for all the obvious reasons.

Now as to the point of view that this planet came about in 7 earth days isn’t actually accurate to the records that came from in Genesis, regardless of whether one believes those writings were “records” or not. They are ancient relative to our tiny history that isn’t disputed by anyone without an axe to grind. The Hebrew used for days there is not talking about earth days as to these Beings that allegedly did the terraforming who don’t live on earth, that time frame is meaningless. They are out of earth time but in those records it was said that to them 1 day is like 1000 years. So lets say the terraforming project happened over 7000 earth years. Is that possible. Well some would say not, yet we are observing how fast certain things can happen with islands growing in the sea as we watch and glaciers melting and knowing what kind of nuke winter can be created from an asteroid or comet strike as is thought probably occurred to vanquish the dinosaurs. And to the archeological evidence of humans going back hundreds of thousands of years I can think of two things to say (at least). In that same record in Genesis 1 BEFORE ADAM is genetically engineered, (as he had no mom or dad as the records say, which of course wasn’t’ even considered before artificial insemination techniques and cloning, etc. except by those who have examined the multi cultured stories of virgin births that today can seem to have possibilities that are extended a long ways by considering that aliens are performing hybridization projects so why couldn’t the terraformers do the same. Maybe aliens are of the same group), there were “male and female’s developed/created/engineered by whatever means right after the mammals were developed which then appears to show the 4 basic evolutionary kingdoms on earth that even scientists called kingdoms at one point because in each there seems to be a hierarchal structure that does show a lot to do with survival of the fittest in who survives, which gene streams and which do not.

So there were humanoids before Adam and Eve and who knows if some of them comingled with Eve or some of their offspring to further develop and/or dilute the adamic gene pool. Why not, unless we have that axe to grind of course. Now how far back were there humans on earth and where did they first come from is anybody’s guess. Certainly recent science has shown very strange skeletons recently discovered and ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics that correlate with humanoids with larger heads than we have now and other glyphs that seem to show helicopters and tanks and stories of technological battles that lend credence to Plato’s Atlantis treatise that has been hotly debated over whether it was genuine history or an attempt at sci-fi.

So then, it comes down to who these Beings are exactly. Humanoids from other planets that got here by wormhole express and/or through a dimensional abrasion which to me can be the same kind of thing and especially when we now know about what’s possible in terms of what can be seen from what is real. Before microscopes and telescopes in space and space alien reports, UFO’s, all this was supernatural and/or superstition but it’s interesting that what was superstitious before the technology is now common place – like the idea of remote viewing, and yet we have spacecraft that remotely view Ceres – no wires in between us makes it remote right. And with that how much of a stretch is it really to think that our physical bodies are also the containers that in building the “mind” that we have gobs of evidence electromagnetically extends beyond the body and can influence others or even do a certain amount of manipulation of matter where matter is as dense or etheric as one is willing to consider. Einstein and Boehm were hot in pursuit of answers to this paradym as shown in the “Holographic Universe” that with their holographic experiments thinking that matter behaved differently when viewed which begins to give credence to our eyes or consciousness being more than just reflectors of light as in that reflection it’s actually transmitting that light, even picking up in the process the content of the mind behind those eyes.  Hence one can become mesmerized by another’s eyes or repelled. The idea of this mind surviving in some fashion after death of the denser physicality becomes yet another logical progression and again it shows roots in the records of most every culture to where some claim to have seen or had interface with these entities. (I am one of those on a number of occasions).

This all becomes the “science of mind” that some phd’s have spoken about rather convincingly like Bruce Lipton in his book “The Biology of Belief” that some scientists I’ve met say is a quack scientist even before reading his book which is again telling of how we can so become our biggest limit setter.  I mean how much of a stretch is it really when we see the same ideas manifest in the computer hardware – software/firmware realities. I spent 20+ years programming and it dawned on me one day that nothing was happening in software unless I made it happen or opened up the possibility. I already had that sense but it just hit home in a more obvious way. And of course look at genetic code, the unseen software/circuitry in every cell with it’s histones that look and act like little cpu’s and/or watch batteries and those banks of hair like molecules like antenna we see all over the body in various forms and the many organs involved. How a scientist can look at that intricate network of very complex interrelationships and think that all stumbled into existence by random mutations simply because of happenstance environmental changes looks to me like ignorance though I couldn’t begin to talk about all they otherwise know. It’s like they can’t see the forest because they are so into the trees. It would be like an ant thinking there are no beings besides the other bugs and that it’s “nature” that destroys their mound when the human gardener wants to get rid of them yet among other ants they may have huge praise steeped upon them. (I actually think a better example is found with dogs and other domesticated animals or one’s in the wild). But the point is that we now know that it’s not “what you see is what you get” the computer acronym WYSIWYG. In fact we now know that most of reality is hidden from our eyes and brains, so why not consider that there is much more and that the ancients weren’t actually ignorant of this even without the kind of science we have now.

Finally, if that is possible, which actually I think it is not as there is always plenty more to become aware of – if we can conceive of Beings (thought forms, physical body (hardware) offloads (mind aka spirits, discarnates) for some it also goes hand in hand with the entire idea of extraterrestrial biological entities or EBE’s. And we see new religions cropping up since the 1950’s around contactees and some of them claim directly or indirectly to be the creators of Jesus or from the spiritual hierarchy as in the ascended masters, etc. or have led the humans they have contacted or abducted to think they are the return of Jesus, etc. (Alex Collier, David Icke, Rael, etc.). It’s always interesting that these three and many others talk like that but like the Pope don’t talk Jesus’ actual mind/spirit.

Jesus was telling his students they had to forsake their human families to graft to his Family. He taught that the physical body wasn’t what we really were and that there was another physical component given to some humans that they were developing by joining his program to outgrow human behaviors and ways. He described this “container” as a new wineskin needed for new wine (mind=spirit) that survives the death of the human vehicle that was actually used as a stepping stone (footstool) into membership in this “kingdom” that is above (superior to) human (mammalian). He taught that a student would have to grow to “give their all” to his allegiance to include the life of their physical human body IN SERVICE to him and his “Father”, the individual who parented him into that same kingdom that is among the stars (the literal heavens). He’s not talking human yet all the religions (and this can extend to Buddhist and Hindu and Judaism and Islam, etc.) only embrace the human aspects of his teachings at best and then even pick and choose of those so what does that tell us? Well can you imagine explaining to a dog what they can look forward to if they live by all the rules the master gives? Example is the best teacher so Jesus demonstrated what each of his students would also have to be willing to endure to meet the qualifications of what was really like an Astronaut Training program for the beings that design planetary bodies as their hothouses to grow souls upon that grow from physical containers. Again this isn’t what the religious teach except in esoteric mystical ways rather than part of a practical and scientific reality. In this way one could see the reality Jesus was saying he was from as an Evolutionary Step Above Human not far different than the kingdom levels below human; animal, plant, mineral.

So then where did this idea of Jesus come from that we see talked about by Christians and other religionists and new age spiritualists, etc. Well if one goes to the records that by in large were not included in the compilation called the Bible except in small smatterings, the book of Enoch, 7th from Adam, that Jesus seems to have spoken about but we have little record of, except circumstantially, we see lots of details that describe these beings that had certain responsibilities working for these “Above Human Beings” as “watchers” which was an “observer” task. When I went to catholic school they tried to brainwash me into thinking “God is everywhere. God sees all things”. If I didn’t say those things I was punished or reprimanded as rebellious. I dropped out of that kind of schooling early on as they were clearly not teachers of truth and reality as I saw it so that began my exploration into what the truth was though I always thought there was something extra special about this guy called Jesus. I would be at parties with my Navy high school buddies in my early 20’s drinking up a storm and I’d be sitting there reading what Jesus was quoted to have said and no one put me up to it and I knew I wasn’t making sense of it.

Anyway putting my history aside, today’s popular Jesus is as that alleged “yellow book”, Bob Lazar got a hold of said is the creation of the space aliens who are the descendants of those “fallen watchers” but who when they died their “software package” (soul container) went into the so called unseen by human eyes world where they could influence the ones they spawned with their hybridization programs to influence humans to go against the Above Human Beings they used to work for. It would be no different from employees deciding to start their own company that would then compete with their former employer that included trying to steal the former employers potential new employees which takes the shape of a religion that acts as if they believe in the founder but doesn’t adhere to much of what they teach unless it’s easy as pie to embrace so everyone can be tricked into serving them instead.

So these Above Human Beings decided to take advantage of what these renegades wanted to do and let them remain on Earth where they became restricted by the lack of technology and energy supplies as they retreated underground to hide from previous periods of geographic upheaval which is like the spading of their garden for the Above Human Beings. Instead of eradicating their influence they decided to permit it while sending some of their equivalent level of employees to earth to be subject to their influence thinking that with Their help if they could survive the onslaught of dis-mis-information (overcome, the meaning of a true Israeli – an overcomer of the human evolutionary kingdom) they would become stable employees and would be rewarded with exclusive never ended membership in their Above Human Evolutionary Level of both physical and mental life. They don’t reproduce like mammals as their bodies don’t die unless they have reason for them to die or they accidentally die (which is highly unlikely but possible). They get new members which they don’t need thus don’t need to lie to obtain from those that go through their program on the human level and conquer any desire to remain human. Those to be in this program came by sacrificing their existing physical bodies because upon completion they would be awarded a new physical body that is grown for them. They were among the so called victims of the UFO crashes that occurred in the late 1940’s and early 1950’s though some were fabrications. Once outside their physical containers (vehicles) they located human vehicles they could use as their footstool and these would be vehicles that were prepared to receive them from birth. Simultaneously Two Older Members from this Next Evolutionary Level came in the same way as their students and took human vehicles to use to gather the human vehicles these new upcoming students were taking to begin the final lesson step in detaching from the human kingdom. These two were called Bo and Peep and in the press “The UFO Two” in 1975 and later took new names as Ti and Do who were those behind the Heavens Gate “cult” that National Geographic’s channel suggested could have been the “Second Coming of Jesus” to the dismay of millions of Christians and new agers and I suppose atheists. They have and continue to fulfill all the prophecies as they gave those forecasts because they were going to see to it that they came true as a help for remaining humans to have one last ditch chance to see through the lies and deceit of the renegade, termed Luciferians who are not beings with pointy chins and red coats and pitchforks and goatees.  They are more highly evolved beings than human because they WERE in the Next Level program they dropped out of that are in competition with the Next Level Above Human Older Members who administered that program.

There is a great deal to all this and it’s all hard to really digest without lots of breaks in between and a desire to understand it. It’s fearful to see the truth. I’ve had 40+ years of prep time. If there is a base on Ceres I know it’s not space aliens but the governments don’t differentiate space aliens from Members of the Next Level Above Human who some in the know about all the space alien reality believe to be the enemy the primary reason Reagan tried to build the star wars program to counter as he express in part on the floor of the United Nations in 1987.

I suspect that the shooting of the comet Temple1 by the Deep Impact spacecraft was a test to see if they could affect it’s course or blow it apart as they are very concerned that the space aliens can direct objects to earth that they want to be able to shoot down or throw off course. Some are under the impression that these are the “bad aliens” that are threatening life on earth as they know it. In the sense of being the “weeds” in the garden the gardeners are the enemy but they are not reptilian. The Luciferians are the reptilians among other species of mammalian human equivalents. I  could go on about this in many ways shapes and forms but if you want to debate anything I’ve said, of course feel free and I’ll try to address your points. I don’t expect anyone to think the way I do about this and don’t really care if they do or not though will help anyone that asks for more info on any aspect and am always open to seeing where I have certain things wrong or need of adjustment of thinking.

One more point regarding whether life forms can mutate and develop and adapt to the degree of new species, I guess anything is possible if it’s put in the code as possible just like in software. Ti and Do said that the Next Level removed certain stages in that step wise evolutionary development so it would be a puzzle while saying there is truth to an evolution from “a spec of dirt” into what we see now as an abundance of life forms. However they said, it wasn’t exactly a “spec of dirt” though. These two were clearly not from this world but it would take a desire to see that to know that. They were the same souls who performed the tasks of Elohim with Adam and later with Enoch, Jehovah and Moses, Jehovah and Elijah, Father and Jesus. And believe it or not they will respond to those that ask for the truth to help us see the truth of it all by asking for their specific help using the names they last used of Ti and Do. They have the technology to know when we think about them. A little more about them;  Ti took a female vehicle to help get Do (her son) started. They were the fulfillment of the records called the Book of Revelations throughout but detailed in most every chapter but with a focus on chapters 6, 11 and 12. I knew them personally as their student for 19 years of my life but I dropped out in 1994 and through a series of dreams and premonitions, sightings of ufo’s and spirits and many other kinds of proves re-engaged my desire to serve them by telling of my experiences with them and how it all relates to the records about their past activity on earth as the garden is being brought to a close and thus is a time for each of us to decide to whom to show our allegiance between them and humanism. That’s a personal decision that’s ongoing. It’s not for me to know about unless someone wants to express it to me. I don’t get anything from seeing new believers in them (though it feels good). It’s simply part of my training program to tell the truth as I see it and accept the mostly negative consequences to my remaining humanness.