New Media Lies about Heaven’s Gate debunked and Revelation 16:2 shows why increased violence in U.S.

There are two parts to this post. The first is in response to an article I provide the link to at the end of the first part that is one of most inaccurate stories I’ve seen in a real long time about Ti and Do’s Heaven’s Gate group, saying they deprived people of sleep to control them. The article by Alternet.org listed 5 cults. I don’t know about the other 4 cults but they started off with the Heaven’s Gate group that I do know about. It’s almost as if this article went out of their way to not get much of anything right. Even Wikipedia has more accuracy with the basics of the story of Ti and Do. I suspect the author has a beef with anyone who believes in anything outside what they can see with eyes or with a microscope or telescope and that’s fine and I could be wrong about that but the only other explanation for this story I can think of, is that it’s in response, perhaps subconsciously, (on the part of the author or whoever might be behind the author’s task to write it), to the fact that there are more people willing to take a look at what Ti and Do taught. In any case it provided another opportunity to point out how unreliable and biased some in the media can often be and also showed me by the comments to the article how many others are becoming increasingly aware of as well.

The second part of this post addresses the increases of violence in the U.S. in particular and some ideas of why that I doubt one will hear in many other places in this specific way, though I’m not claiming it’s a perfect explanation but it involves Rev 16:2.

Regarding the first part on alleged sleep deprivation: The truth is there was a very short period of time around 1980, some five years after most of us joined with Ti and Do not long after we moved into houses from living outdoors in the wild for years in Wyoming in summer and Texas in the winter, when Ti and Do (the teachers) did experiment with us (the students that chose to follow them) by changing sleep and eating patterns among many things. The primary sleep experiment was to be up for 4 hours and then down to sleep for 2 hours, all day long so we still got 8 hours sleep. I don’t think that lasted more than a week or two before Ti and Do changed the pattern back to a strict 8 hours that we was required during the time we lived outdoors. We also had regular hour long naps when we had the 8 hour sleep schedule and we were instructed to stay in our bunks for the entire time unless we needed to use the “bath chamber” (rest room). (They also changed lots of our terminology). Then a few years after that, they changed it to a mandatory 6 hours sleep a night and a maximum 8 hours. One could get up earlier but all had to go down at the same time.

In both the outdoor and indoor living Ti and Do would often instruct everyone to take a nap. They said during the experiment with the 4 hours up and 2 hours down they saw that peoples brains didn’t work as well and they didn’t like that, contrary to what the article implies. There is so much inaccuracy in that article I’d have to re-write it entirely but it goes to show how easy it’s become to program people to believe the misinformation as we see throughout the governments, religions, spiritual and atheistic, now main stream “cults of mistruth”.

For another example of the article’s mistruth that is probably what is still on Wikipedia, among many other so called “facts” (that they wouldn’t let me change because I have credentials), Do wasn’t at the hospital where he met Ti for his own benefit – (for a heart condition or as a mental patient). He was there visiting a “male friend” the way he put it which we learned from him that he said “male” in “88update” to expose that he had been gay before he met Ti (and by the way became completely non-sexual, though before that he said he was frustrated with not finding a partner who wanted a committed relationship, as he told us on several occasions).

I’m not going to bother saying much more about the article, though I’ll copy this comment to the comment section and send it to Alternet.org corrections email address. If they would issue a total re-write I would help them with it but since there was no sleep deprivation perhaps they’ll do nothing so some will just believe the lies from this so called alternative media group that has become just another form of propaganda, at least in this case.

However, it was refreshing to see among the 20 or so comments that several people, even most, just don’t buy all this hype about cults anymore. Maybe that’s because we don’t see any more big events like this AND more and more see how the media, and governments and traditional religions and new age spirituality and corporations and the military and scientists and entire agencies pull off massive deceptions that often involve direct murder, abuses, neglect, considering the displacements and disease and death of people collateral damage that end up being far nastier than even the worst of the off-track cults. (Note, with every cult you will find leaders that abused and misused people and their power with many examples that have come to light, while Ti and Do the founders of what became known as the Heaven’s Gate cult, though having many dropouts were never even legitimately accused of any such abuses or human conduct.)

The brainwashing is so prevalent and apparent anymore that many see the hype in this article as more propaganda. In fact, more and more many see almost everything as propaganda and even to the other extreme to where many don’t believe the truth when it’s told either as seen by the flurry of reported “false flag” scenarios. That’s another form of illusion that seems to have started with the 9/11 event. On that event as with the JFK story and Martin Luther King story and no doubt many others, it becomes very obvious that the governments story is not at all trustworthy – go figure right – our government is not trustworthy, nor is the media “free”, while all the other freedoms, if we ever really had them, because the history books were written by the Misinformation Cult are disappearing.

I believe I can prove to anyone who wants to really know, that Ti and Do stand apart from all as the only “cult of truth” that looked so bizarre because of the saturation of the Misinformation Cults all through history. Yes, they chose to lay down their lives for what they believed and that is a very serious step to take that was anything but taken without consideration of all the ramifications and that no one was forced into. In fact some were filtered out. I was one of them actually. I can prove that from the 19 years I spent with them, though I dropped out, not because of anything they did or didn’t do, a long story I do tell to those who ask. I then  started a new life but realized after 9/11 (curiously that I have a lot to say about) that I still believed in them so have since re-started my service to the truth which is another long story I’m willing to tell to anyone who asks. But that scenario of having someone who was ready to lay down his life with them, as we began to talk about it directly in the way they ended up exiting their vehicles in August of 1994, who worked with them and had accepted their teachings seemingly as much as anyone, to decide on my own to leave and not show any significant problems re-adjusting to life in the world, getting married and fathering a child and holding down a good job to support the family while re-associating with old family and friends and making new friendships, is baffling to psychologists to consider as I was supposed to be brainwashed and in need of de-programming to fit back into the accepted “cults”. Like I said, it’s because of who Ti and Do really were/are and the fact that they didn’t have an evil manipulating bone in their bodies but to the contrary were no doubt the return of the Father and the One who was called Jesus 2000 years ago that was made into a saccharine religious figure that many bought into.

Here is the article:

http://www.alternet.org/belief/here-are-five-infamous-religious-cults-used-sleep-deprivation-control-their-followers

I received a comment seemingly sarcastic saying that I missed out on the sleep deprivation but did I miss out on the castration and to count my blessings, I guess assuming I had, to which I responded:

No I didn’t miss out on the castration option that some took. In fact I was among the first two who petitioned Do to allow us to be castrated. After a year of petitioning, another classmate and I were given the go ahead. One of the other students was an oncology nurse (Lvvody) so knew the procedure and created a surgically clean room and Do felt to invite me and the other student Srrody to have the procedure there. Do was there and the nurse student and her partner (Jnnody). At one point Do asked me if I had any reservations. I said to him “no, but my vehicle isn’t looking forward to it, but I’m overriding my vehicle”. Lvvody needed to know who was going first to start the preparation. Since we both wanted to go first as we commonly did when we had to choose and the answer didn’t matter, we flipped a coin and the winner of the coin toss got to choose. I lost the flip and Suri chose to go first so I became a witness to his removal of his testicles. There more to this story.

Years later after I left them in September of 1994 when I went public with my experience, following their laying down their lives in March of 1997, where I was on 60 minutes and Larry King Live and Good Morning America and in stories in most all the national media centered in the NYC area, I was laughed at, probably by most in the nation because I was quoted in Time or Newsweek magazine as saying “I lost the toss and didn’t get castrated”. Most people couldn’t imagine legitimately wanting to not be sexual anymore. Little do they know that our giving away of our “life-force” is perhaps the biggest form of reducing our common sense about what is true and what is misinformation regarding what is above and beyond the human evolutionary kingdom and where we all came from initially, the genetic code, big bangs, etc. and how it’s common sense that it’s all the result of direction by Above Human Beings whose environments are not terrestrial unless they have a planet size base or use a planet as a base as seems to be the case on the dwarf planet Ceres that NASA’s Dawn spacecraft just revealed by the apparent abundance of what looks like a cityscape of lights.

Graduation into “heaven” is nothing like the religious teach. Religion is the distortion of the truth actually and is a killer of souls, as well as spirituality, though as all things in the human kingdom can be stepping stones into the Level Above Human IF we grow past them when we are given the chance as is now. This idea of not wasting our force is where the entire idea of moving the kundalini force to one’s pineal gland chakra for greater enlightenment came from, though was distorted to heighten ones SELF like the Luciferian fallen angels instead of moving that “force” towards a stronger relationship with one’s Older Member (aka Heavenly Father) from the Evolutionary Level Above Human, that in the old less accurate terminology was called the Kingdom of God or Kingdom in the literal heaven’s (outer space).

Members of that higher than human level don’t have gender and don’t reproduce. They don’t even have the “plumbing” because they are no longer mammals so part of the lesson to graduate their school is to voluntarily cease stimulating one’s procreative functions of the physical body they inhabit because doing so in mind and body actually builds a type of mind muscle so when willfully born into the Next Level, (what Jesus called a “spirit birth” (a spirit or soul being unseen by others) and they issue you a new physical body that doesn’t have those functions one’s Mind (aka spirit-like software we write by choice of behaviors and ways) would be a match for it and would have the will power to drive it, as to a Member of the Next Level the physical bodies they grow on vines to adulthood are “worn” like the way a human would put on a suit to function in outer space or underwater. They have different bodies for different tasks though they don’t have a closet of bodies to choose from, though their Mind can grow in the Next Level to literally operate more than one vehicle at a time, which Do said his Older Member Ti had the capacity to do so didn’t need to bring all her mind with her to do her part of the incarnate task to “get Do started”.

I know this all sounds like sci-fi but that is because of the dumbing down of the population, largely by promoting constant giving away of their force and ridiculing anyone who chooses not to. Human reproduction was not a necessity and we are seeing that more and more by the hybridization programs the space aliens have been performing for decades or even millennium (See Genesis chapter 6) on and off when they are let out of their underground prison cells to become catalysts for a new Next Level classroom that is actually an astronaut training program, that used to be called, “overcoming the human world”.

Ti and Do knew all this like the back of their hands and then when I began to study certain things Jesus said, the real Jesus not the myth Jesus that most Christians have been programmed to believe or disbelieve in, I saw that Jesus actually spoke favorably as a choice to “make oneself a eunuch for the Kingdom of Heaven’s sake”. He also talked about cutting off one’s own hand or plucking out one’s own eye to enter into life with only one hand or one eye RATHER than miss out on the opportunity to evolve beyond the human kingdom, the only future that can exist for any human, that won’t seem like reality if one is not willing to at the very least consider it and go after further thinking in that vein. Of course the misinformation promoters will say Jesus didn’t really mean that but if one really looks into it, it is quite apparent that he did. It had nothing to do with being religious. It was a choice that had a practical application as the seeds we sow now are building blocks of our new Mind that if it meets the graduation requirements during the time when an Older Member was once again in the flesh “wearing a human vehicle” as was the case with Ti and Do, who are also waiting to hear from some now if they want to apply to be really saved for the next “overcoming classroom” program instead of being recycled in the upcoming spading of the garden (to include the spirit world and the Luciferians) as the weeds have all but taken over the Next Level’s garden and made it almost impossible to see the truth through their smoke screens.

I do count my blessings. Having another opportunity is the blessing as I flunked out of my first opportunity. We each have that same opportunity and is the reason the world is becoming more apparently corrupt and polluted and inhospitable to anyone with consciousness, that is for those that don’t bury their heads in the sand looking to be soothed by religion and spirituality or by keeping focused on building a career or with entertainment or with procreation and raising a family and/or taking care of their own.

A tiny few will hear what I am saying and it will turn on a little light, but then they must reach up to get more of that light or lose it. The way to reach up for that light is to learn everything you can about the real story about Ti and Do instead of the mindless belief that they were the same as all the other cults and if they do that and have the guts to even ask Ti and Do if they can become their student, though in one’s privacy since they are no longer in physical human bodies, but have excellent technology to hear the thoughts when directed to them especially, then they will let you know in some subtle unobtrusive way that they heard you and will give you further opportunities to grow. The formula is the same as it was spoken of by Moses and by Jesus – to love the Lord with all your heart, all your mind, all your soul and all your strength – which means as Jesus said, to “deny yourSELF”, “pick up your cross (burden)” – because when one tells others the formula they will hate you as they hated our Older Members when they were incarnate saying the same things and “follow” the Older Member’s behaviors and ways and if one is incarnate literally go with him, leaving all behind to do so to begin to learn what it means to “give all your love”. It’s not accomplished by joining a monastery or going to find a cave in the Himalaya’s. How fast one chooses to move in that direction is up to each of us but the process begins by putting ourselves in the hands of the Older Member from the Next Level. They will help us separate from our human worldliness in a way we can handle if we don’t fight the process but will not be easy either as it’s actually the hardest thing a human can do but in a step wise way looking to the Older Members for every step it is Do-able.

I’m not talking suicide. It wasn’t really suicide for those 38 that laid down their bodies. They are actually against suicide, but they would define it as choosing not to be with their Older Members when they are called though not all necessarily grasp that perspective at the same time, so there are multiple opportunities to rise up to conquering whatever there is that separates us from our Older Members. Thus for those 38 who all had a previous human life experience with an incarnate Older Member when they passed those grades in school, they were ready. For those it was actually natural because they had grown to know they were not the vehicle they were wearing and that they could trust their Older Member who was incarnate with them, so they didn’t have to guess at what he would say.

We who remain have a different task that also entails “giving our life in their service”, which is to believe everything they taught and “stand for Ti and Do” and look for help to make significant changes. Taking those steps is a huge step and does begin one’s separation from their human kingdom roots. There is no pie in the sky. We have to earn their Mind coming to us as they don’t need us. It’s their joy to offer what they know is actually more real than what we experience in the human kingdom. But we each must be brought through the eye of the needle so to speak and we need a strong relationship to them to do so.

There is no new cult nor leaders nor things you must buy. All the information Ti and Do brought which is a huge amount is free for the taking for now at least. It will never be popular unless it’s once again twisted beyond recognition of what it was meant to represent though at this time that’s unlikely to occur and that’s especially clear with the city like lights seen by NASA up close on the dwarf planet Ceres and the earth like geology of Pluto that in 1982 Ti and Do directed in a movie script a story they said was “fiction based on the truth” that included the idea that Pluto was a Next Level base that had within it, seemingly coincidentally, a working model of the Earth they called the “earth lab” and had a huge door that would open and close in a louvered fashion to let space crafts large and small in and out. Note, in the first pictures from NASA’s New Horizon spacecraft on flyby of Pluto this last July of 2015 was pictured four approx. 200 mile wide rectangular black looking openings equidistant from one another looking like 4 black keys of a piano keyboard. There is a lot more to report on this.

As it turns out both Ceres and Pluto are part of the translation options of “green” (Demeter/Ceres – goddess of the harvest) and “hell” (hades/Pluto) in the projected plan for the conclusion of the current civilizational garden on earth referred to as the Book of Revelations the Next Level Crews are in the process of seeing to total fulfillment that shows all the direct relationships of Ti and Do’s teachings to all the teachings of the Father and Jesus and of Jehovah and Moses, because Ti and Do are those same Older Members from the Next Level returned as promised in the role of the Revelations chapter 11 Two Witnesses who were shot down by the press in 1975 as the UFO Two, UFO Cult, as they said the bible’s “cloud of light” was a physical spacecraft today we would see as unidentifiable. There is a great deal more to this as well.

Space aliens that have been reported in the bible and in many other cultural records, cave drawings, ancient astronauts, etc. are human and human equivilent descendants from the original “fallen angels” and are all referred to as Luciferians as they share the same Mind that is misinformation. They are really not “space” aliens anymore because they are all grounded to earth. Earth is their prison and their prison cell for a great deal of the time in between being let out to provide a catalyst for growth to upcoming members to the Next Level is literally under the ground and/or under the sea. They are the Revelations “beast” in combination with all the humans in the governments their apparent presence has become the motivation for the entire space program, though does so in all ways human – quest to explore, search for certain elements, like G.W. Bush said that we might find that will “boggle the mind” (because he already was privy to the existence of elements that could be used to drive a zero gravity engine).

Ti and Do said that all the prophecies of Revelations would be fulfilled and they spoke about the return of Jesus as the 7th closeness where they were the 6th closeness which is seen in Revelations chapter 19 as the rider of the white horse (in this context a spacecraft) with a pure clean white body “dipped in blood” which seems to be a reference to the vehicle the Older Member changed over into a Next Level vehicle 2000 years ago and levitated into the spacecraft hidden behind cloud cover, just as was demonstrated in the Moses camp by Jehovah when he would physically come and go to his tent dwelling. There is a lot more to say about this.

PUTTING THIS ARTICLE ASIDE, I WANT TO BRING UP SOME OBSERVATIONS OF HOW THE FURTHER DETERIORATION OF SOCIETY BY VIOLENCE, ESPECIALLY IN THE UNITED STATES IS DRAMATICALLY ESCALATING AT THIS TIME.

I heard on NPR today a talk about why the murder rates have gone up considerably in many big cities where they had been down for a while. I wanted to call in and tell them why I think it’s happening but they would probably never buy it, publically at least, but I’ll start with a reason they could be, at least willing to consider, which happens to be related to Ti and Do and Crew’s exit in 1997. In so many words, Ti and Do said the Next Level was holding back the human ugliness and resulting security state from rearing it’s head to allow their “overcoming of humanness classroom” to have all the time they needed, to avoid potential disruption of what they needed to have time to accomplish. In other words which is according to Jesus prophecy, time and opportunity to have the “dead in Christ”, those who “gave their lives” in service to Jesus, who all returned to complete their overcoming of their remaining humanness, to “rise first” meaning “resurrect” – “stand up again”, having two meanings of 1) FIRST to rise in the taking and standing in a new human vehicle and 2) first to take it over and overcome it to include their clinging to their life in that vehicle, both of which only works for good when it’s for and under the direction of the Older Members, Ti and Do. Humans can accomplish the same things and even give their lives for a variety of causes but it’s not necessarily seen favorably by the Next Level for doing so. For instance giving your life by taking up arms against someone may not be something the Next Level looks favorably upon though I do believe if one seeks forgiveness they can get it but they will have to show the Next Level they mean it, as do we all without whatever ways we “miss the mark” (sin). I say this because Jesus said the only unforgiveable sin was railing against the Kingdom of God and the truth.

I can see two more immediately applicable reasons for the increased violence.

1) More and more people are rebelling in every which way because whether they can address the cause or not, they have been so inundated with lies and prejudices and bigotries and aware that there is no “justice” in the so called just American society really, (except in very isolated cases that are highlighted to give the semblance of justice) together with a tiny fuse on all their built up anger against the system and against anyone who tries to hold them down, together with disrespect for so called law and order, hopelessness and awareness that violence seems to be an acceptable way to solve problems and even appear to be a demonstration of bravery and purpose, even if it’s to fulfill the devil’s role as the latest Oregon school shooting said.

2) The alchemist (true sorcerers) chemicalization of the mind and body in the forms of all kinds of drug addiction – not even primarily to heroin, or meth or crack or coke as much as to the legal drugs prescribed by the boatload that all have side effects and combination problems that can easily render the user into a zombie like hallucinogenic state, combined with having little self discipline and less and less regard for life and more and more resentment of anyone who seems to have money, power, popularity, success, happiness that can all contribute to a powder keg most anything can trigger that sets off a violent response to as we have seen in the many school and other public mass shootings and especially in the latest event with a woman who just lost her job, had just gone off her meds for some mental condition and drove her car into a parade in Oklahoma killing at least 4 and injuring 40 or more and some are in critical condition from. It is a fact that all the school shootings were by individuals who were on meds.

This is the first test period (calamity/plague) that the Next Level planned (forecasted) recorded as their first angel pouring out a vial/bowl on the earth inhabitants. I equate that word vial to a vial of medicine, which is a term Ti and Do used for a lesson step. In this case the events that transpire as a result of what the Next Level crew does or doesn’t do shows those who witness the events and hear the truth about how it is showing up as being fulfilled, correlates exactly with the timing, events and teachings (their prophecy (speaking the truth)) in the return of the Revelations Two Witnesses as Ti and Do, that can help them wake up to the whole truth about what’s really happening. (Meanwhile the view that most Christian interpreters of scripture will say provides another viewpoint that many will gravitate to as it doesn’t really challenge anyone to seeing anything really new as they often have pat ideas of how all the Revelations prophecy are to be interpreted that range from having already been fulfilled even as early as 70 AD to being so symbolic there is no chance of ever seeing anything in a literal application, except in a highly general way of showing the arrival of “birth pangs” in the “end times”. Everyone is so saturated with end time apocalyptic talk, it’s a joke for many while it’s illusion for many while it’s happening but without knowing how they fit into it or not and how many prophecies tie in to all the others that are repeated from different vantage points throughout the Revelations writings and correlation with what Jesus and Old Testament prophets said. So in a sense the Christian interpreters say many of the same things I’m saying, even interpreting events literally, as in seeing wars and rumors of wars and earthquakes and hail and fires, etc. but with no overview of timing that shows all the prophecies’ literal application. This is because few others have the “key” though many even say we don’t get the key until Jesus returns but if they never know how to identify him then they will never see the key that works to unlock the doors that are then left as a mystery of what’s behind it.

The key is that Ti and Do are the return of the Father and Jesus together as the two witnesses in new names in new bodies to speak (prophecy) directly “plainly” (without parables this time) which can not be done from the clouds though they try to make sense out of that even though the same sense was provided when looking for the Moses return when he said, “like me” would be the return – “from among you” in other words in the flesh again, which they were looking for but had in mind it would be from among the Jewish priestly class because they had become so full of themselves and their religiosity that they couldn’t imagine his coming as a peasant working class carpenter. So Ti and Do come and don’t primarily talk religious Christian jargon that is actually the distortion of what was meant, so they miss him during the incarnate stage and become the ones Jesus referred to as the “last”. The ones who think themselves to be first to see his return then become the last to see his return, that is if they see his return at all. But they are at least given the chance to see but many are tricked by the lower forces to expect something entirely different.

Now regarding at least this first “plague/calamity”, it seems that Ti and Do and crew are not making people act the way they are, nor are they the cause for people’s depression and irritability and hatreds, except in how their closer presence and attention while in their Next Level bodies and spacecrafts that emit the truth/light stimulates people to “become exactly what they are”. In other words where someone may have had thoughts wishing they could kill someone before, now at this time they will be more prone to acting it out because it’s like putting a very strong light/heat source closer to a bee hive or ant hill. The increased frequency and even literal electromagnetic energy it stimulates that is even literally stimulated by things the Next Level can do with the Sun, forces us to act out the content of our soul or spirit.

The truth is that human beings are literally a type of plant, a valuable one to the Next Level in how they can become the stepping stone/footstool a soul/spirit/mind from the Next Level can overcome and take over to yield the Next Level fruit instead of morphing to a weed that can serve yet another purpose as a catalyst like fertilizer that in controlled doses can help that upcoming fruit flourish by growing stronger to combat.

Thus many people have been manipulated and in most cases didn’t know any better but found themselves trapped into a dead end agenda that, though people hate to hear this is literally a result of the failed leadership from the Luciferian fallen angel space aliens and their minions both through their direct descendants in the flesh that are also thought of and seen as space aliens (though they can’t actually get very far away from earth anymore, the reason why they are pushing humans to develop the ways to do so, the reason for continued nuclear energy, even though it’s against the health of the populations) and humans who they have motivated and enslaved in all ways that we define as either SECULAR and/or SPIRITUAL in prophetic terms, the BEAST and/or it’s IMAGE. (See Revelations references galore but note that some translations to “BEAST” is misinformational as there are two Greek words both largely translated as Beast when one should be “Living Being” and refers to student worker members of the Next Level). However, these last seven calamities are designed in such a way that all have yet another chance to see through their manipulations but if they have no desire to pay attention and search for meaning and give identity to the Creators then they will by their own choices miss that opportunity and will succumb to the directions from the BEAST and/or false prophets of religion and spirituality (the Beasts Image) that translates to remaining engulfed in human behaviors and ways, thinking and self centeredness. And they will meet their end as all do, except their spirits will be recycled where those that do seek out the truth and push to “change their mind” the true meaning of repentance and don’t accept the programming from the BEAST and it’s Image in the form of accepting the various markings that are being instigated more and more as various security measures.

With that said, here is the first angels pouring out of their vial, with double parentheses ((…)) showing the Greek word translation options from Strongs and/or Thayers Hebrew and Greek dictionaries that help me to broaden the view to consider. Some Christians will say this is devilish to consider different words. Others have said to me, you have to take the first translation option listed which is just as illogical as if that occurs in any language translation to another language. For instance take the word “heaven”. It has application as “sky, elevated areas, the firmament – the area where the Sun and Moon are and/or the Stars and even the Abode of God and a location where spirits go”. The context means a great deal and where all the meanings came from interplay, their etymology and then of course what the person doing the translation thinks about that word and it’s literal verses figurative possible applications. Also I use square brackets […] within double parentheses to show my thoughts and interpretation:

Rev 16:2 And the first went, and poured out his vial ((bowl)) upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore ((1668 helkos probably from helkuo 1670= an ulcer (as if drawn together))) upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image ((1504 eikon from eiko 1503= faintness as a copy, likeness, (literally) statue, profile, or figuratively a representation, resemblance)).

The sores are actually translated as “ulcers” which is the exact terminology used to describe the lesions Dr. Wakefield and his eleven associate doctors documented among the 10 autistic children that became his patients. These lesions were throughout their intestines and in some measles virus that was injected into them was found in the lesions. This was most interesting to learn and as he also concluded and I’ve seen a great deal of research on there is no mistaking the “gut to brain” connection because it’s through the gut that the body absorbs substances into the blood that then travels throughout the body. If the particles are small enough to pass through the blood brain barrier, which heavy metals are and they lodge in places that change the electromagnetic balances, as heavy metals still in many vaccines and pharmaceuticals definitely do, then depending on the dosage and the frequency and the diet to cleanse it out or not, that has to do with the quality of the food, water and air supply and according to what the mother did in her life and her ancestors and what both parents were subject to and extend in thought, words, behaviors and ways all contribute to degrees of disease that can surface in all ways at any time throughout everyone’s lifetime.

Those that fall in line with everything they are taught and told by the government and institutions of so called higher learning and don’t question things and look for other points of view but accept what’s easiest to come by and that gives satisfaction to be a part of for prestige or profit or self assurance and come to trust and believe in, most often become the people that are the biggest programmed product of the BEAST who are all those who tow the line for those governments, their institutions and corporations. They are also those who are most accepting of the MARKS of this BEAST, of course for practical concerns and reasons but as Jesus said would be showing themselves as the “tares”, the facsimile of the wheat/corn the Next Level plants that the Luciferian fallen angel space aliens and all in league with them know it or not planted. That’s not to say any of us can judge who fits into this category or not as even if someone does accept most everything the authorities say, whether secular or religious or humanist, and they justify certain BEASTly ways or solutions to problems that could even involve killing other humans, they might still change before they die. Death does solidify their minds allegiance.

So how do we escape these ill effects. Well, one can think they can go to a cleansing diet, eat organically despite the cost hoping the quality is better, eat and drink less concoctions and reduce the ingestion of stimulants, use “super foods”, fast and those things can certainly help. They can try to use mediation and yoga for mind/body balance and healing and get plenty of exercise, move to the mountains and away from the densely populated and polluted areas and that can help. They can filter their water and limit electromagnetic exposures, use herbs and acupressure and acupuncture and chiropractic and other naturopathic and homeopathic remedies and those can all help. And one can choose which allopathic treatments and drugs and therapies to use and that can help as it’s not about all or nothing. We can meditate on peace and love to reduce stress and try to choose employment that is less stressful and solely money related and that can help. We can adhere to a religion – take one’s pick or take the best from them all and that may help in some ways to have community with like minded people but in the end those things could all fall into the category of the “image” in that Revelations 16:2 verse.

The biggest key word I can think of to describe what the use of the word “Image” represents is what today is called “spirituality” and includes all belief systems to include Christianity because they are all a facsimile, appearance, representation, resemblance, imagination and illusion (all synonyms of the greek word “eikon and eiko” translated to Image) of what is “true” and “real”.

What else is there then, one might ask? Well for those reading this the answer is very simple though it’s the hardest thinking to consider and believe in. It’s to project one’s desires for the truth and choose to put themselves in the hands of the highest beings they can imagine exist who created the universe and all it’s life forms, who exist in deep outer space and who most recently came “in the flesh” aka incarnate (and have since exited those flesh bodies by dying) and used those bodies they chose to call Ti and Do, to speak to us directly about; WHERE THEY ARE FROM (the literal heavens – all of outer space is their home which can be inside a spacecraft as big as Pluto or Ceres for example or as small as a piper cub, depending on their task assignments), WHO THEY REPRESENT (the Chief of Chiefs – the Oldest Member of the Next Level, who we aren’t designed to understand where he came from), WHY THEY ARE HERE (to give us the opportunity to apply for membership in the only evolutionary step beyond the human condition, which requires an evolution (growth) of Mind to accept their Mind (information) and replace the misinformation mind of the renegades to their world that they allow to exist on earth to provide us the choice to remain part of the human family they are also a part of or to become a Member of their Next Level Above Human family) and WHEN THEY WILL LEAVE (when they have offered what they know they have that’s beyond human to all who want it). For those who don’t read this, they are judged by the Older Members in the Next Level according to what they are exposed to and are capable of understanding and what they think, say and do, how they behave towards others and thus how they SHOW their allegiance to the Next Level regardless of what terms they use to describe the Next Level. When they pray if they are praying for truth then that request goes to the place where Ti and Do are.

In their Next Level Above Human society they use physical bodies that they grow on a vine to maturity that their Mind (a Soul that graduated the human evolutionary condition by overcoming all their humanness while in a Next Level “classroom” designed for them by the current Older Member who comes incarnate) wears like we would put on a space suit or diving suit that allows them to function in the physical realm their Older Members created and they have different vehicles (bodies) for different tasks. They work in crews on spacecrafts that are laboratories of all sorts. They are not mammalian though look humanoid but have no gender, nor plumbing (no reproductive organs or digestive organs), don’t eat though can receive nutrition from a light source, but is the reason they designed us to appear like them. We look like them, they don’t look like us. They don’t look anything like the monsters portrayed in the alien movies except for having a slightly larger head and eyes, small frame and white true lack of coloration (a Caucasian is not really white just like a person called black is not actually black, but are all a shade or shadow (hue) of “man” (Hebrew, adom). No humans is any closer or further away from related to the Older Members in the Evolutionary Level Above Human because of what their vehicle (body) looks like. It’s their behaviors and ways and recognition of the fact that we are all part of the creation that was directed to come about through ion’s of experience and experiments. Even automatic looking evolutionary processes came about through the direction of intelligent Above Human beings and the space aliens are also human equivalents.

It’s not pleasant to watch all that’s happening but we all have to be faced with the truth. Life will not be returning to some other form of normalcy though this period too shall pass but not until the entire “garden like” civilization as we know it is spaded and recycled so the Next Level can start over because the current “garden” is infested with “weeds” rending the planted fruit more and more incapable of growth (to see/understand the truth and respond positively to it).

‘UNDERCOVER “JESUS” SURFACES BEFORE DEPARTURE’ (posted by Do and Crew in 1995 – The Sixth Thunder

Statement posted to the World  Wide Web and to 95 specific  newsgroups on the Internet  (edited/updated) January 1997:

UNDERCOVER “JESUS” SURFACES BEFORE DEPARTURE

A member of the Kingdom of God — the Evolutionary Level Above Human —  I, who am called Do, acknowledge that:

1. I am about to return to my Father’s Kingdom.

A. This “return” requires that I prepare to lay down my borrowed
human body in order to take up, or reenter, my body
(biological) belonging to the Kingdom of God (as I did approx-
imately 2000 years ago, as Jesus, when I laid down the human
body that was about 33 years old in order to reenter my body
belonging to the Kingdom of Heaven).

B. The Evolutionary Level Above Human is a physical Kingdom
Level in the physical Heavens or space, though individuals in
that Kingdom identify with their soul – and its mind or spirit –
and not the “flesh” or physical body they “wear.”

2. This time, my Heavenly Father – my “Older Member” – came with
me.  In the early 1970’s, we incarnated into adult human bodies
which were in their forties.  Approximately 2000 years ago, I
incarnated into a body that was in its late 20’s/early 30’s
(not at the birth of that body, but just prior to – during –
and following my baptism with John the Baptist).

3. It seems that each time we, or others from the Level Above Human,
come to Earth or leave, it is via a spacecraft belonging to that
Next Level.

4. My Father is an Older Member in the Kingdom of Heaven – the
Kingdom of God – the Evolutionary Level Above Human.

A. He actually gave me “birth” into that Kingdom – took me
through the overcoming of a mammalian civilization – long
before this present human civilization had its beginning.

B. I have served as His student and apprentice during His
relationship with this civilization.

C. His relationship to this planet is as Chief Administrator,
and is the One referred to as the “True God” in the early stages
of this civilization.

5. This time He came with me “undercover,” so to speak, in order to
assist me in my task (picking up where this process left off
approximately 2000 years ago) of the further birthing – “fathering” –
experience with the ones who will be the next new “sons” or
children in the Level Above Human.  To allow me to gain more
experience in the birthing process, my Older Member returned
to that Kingdom in 1985, and continues to assist and
communicate with me from a more advanced perspective.

A. As part of the undercover program, my Father incarnated in a
female body for His 15-year stay.

B. Being “undercover,” which included lack of acknowledgment of
who we were historically, was required for most of our task
this time in order that we might, with as little recognition
and interference as possible, round up the souls who were our
students from the past.  Even so, we were identified as a
small, radical cult, just as we were 2000 years ago.  And as
was the case 2000 years ago, these prospective members left
their families and relationships in order to follow or be a
student.  Now that I am surfacing again, I will again be hated
for my “blasphemy” (of who I say I am) and hated by those
families and others that are affected by all who aspire to
leave with us, because this mission requires that they
forsake all ties and binds to this world (family ties,
responsibilities, and human-mammalian indulgences).

6. These prospective new “sons” (speaking of soul identities, for
they occupy both male and female bodies) were gathered at two
different time periods – one, in 1975-76, under the guidance of
both my Older Member and myself, and the second, in 1994, after
my Older Member had returned (these were all souls that had had
a previous relationship with me before this incarnation).

7. These “students” of the Next Level/The Level Above Human were
offered the opportunity to bond with me and my Father, as a
bride would bond with her husband, though –

A. Since the Evolutionary Level Above Human has no mammalian or
human members, they had to become “new creatures” who bonded
in mind, spirit, and behavior – void of human sexuality,
human binds, and addictions of this world and this
civilization.  Some in the class have chosen on their own to
have their vehicles neutered in order to sustain a more
genderless and objective consciousness.

B. The students/disciples who successfully bond to the Level
Above Human through me and my Father must also prepare to lay
down their human bodies as we go to the Kingdom of Heaven, in
order to take up bodies appropriate to and belonging to that
more advanced Kingdom Level.

8. As we prepare to “lay down” our human bodies, while declaring
that entry into the Kingdom Above Human is available, there may
be many humans who have been recipients of “souls” in “deposits”
who may exercise their free will and separate from everything of
their world in order to go with us.

A. They will attempt to rid themselves of their old minds, and
identities, in exchange for the mind that flows through me,
as they attempt to be accepted as one of my “children.”  It
will “cost” them everything of this world – which they will
desperately desire to quickly be rid of.

B. If they expect to go with me, and I’m leaving very soon, they
must look to us (me and my students/disciples) for all their
needs to the best of their ability – align themselves with us
– break their human bonds – and if their declaration that our
presence is from the Kingdom of God leads to the “laying down”
of their bodies in pursuit of the Next Kingdom as well, then
they, too, will find themselves in the safekeeping of that
Kingdom, and in line to be recipients of further nourishment
from that Next Level toward membership in that Kingdom.

C. If my Father does not require this “disposition” of us – He
will take us up into His “cloud of light” (spacecraft) before
such “laying down of bodies” need occur.

9. Humans with deposits containing souls can likely be
identified at this time as some of those who are rapidly losing
respect for this world or its “system.”  They are, from the
establishment’s point of view, being irresponsible or anti-
social – and will be seen by the world as duped, crazy, a cult
member, a drifter, a loner, a drop-out, a separatist, etc.

10. In essence, it ultimately matters little what your
LIFESTYLE, BELIEF SYSTEM, or MORAL VALUES are BETWEEN
“visitations” from the Level Above Human (the last two being
2000 years ago and now).  The important issue is – the Kingdom
of Heaven is here NOW in ME and these students of the Next
Level.

11. Evidence that we speak the truth is:

A. That our information and our actions match recorded accounts
of the presence, conduct, mission, and departure of our
previous visitations from the Level Above Human offering
membership in that Kingdom.

B. Any soul of this civilization who has known us in previous
visitations or has had any genuine (physical or personal)
relationship with anyone from the True Kingdom of God, is
present now, and is potentially capable of knowing or
recognizing us and this information again.

C. It appears that even the staging of some of the crashed
spacecrafts (which we suspect some of us arrived in) was in
order to help the skeptics realize that they have “visitors
from another world.”

12. As true today as it was 2000 years ago, no one (of this
civilization) gets to my Father or enters the Kingdom of
Heaven except through Me.  There is no other Son of His,
or Representative from His Kingdom, incarnate.  Connecting
with that Kingdom occurs only while a Member is incarnate, as
I am today.

13. There are space aliens (humanoid remnants from other
civilizations) who travel in the nearby heavens.  They are
dependent upon Earth’s atmosphere for harvesting hybrid
bodies to “wear” and they recruit the “souls” who fail to
become children in the Kingdom of God.  We call them
Luciferians because of their lineage.

14. These Luciferians (space aliens) “jump in” immediately after
Representatives from the Level Above Human leave.  They fill the
“patriarch(s)” of the resulting new religion with mixed truths
and misinformation, which reinforces the fact that accurate knowledge
concerning that Kingdom seems to be available only while
Representatives are incarnate.

15. The Kingdom of God sends crews to “tag” or make “deposits”
in human bodies and their minds/spirits just prior to and
during the time Representatives from their Kingdom are
incarnate “offering” birth.  These deposits offer their
recipients “recognition” of the Representatives and, to some
degree, recognition of the “information” from the Kingdom of God.
They also act as “homing devices” to lead the recipients to those
Representatives and that information.  Without these “deposits” of
“recognition,” no choice of becoming a student is within the
will of a human.

16. It is our understanding that all souls of this civilization who
ever received deposits from the Level Above Human have returned
at this time, the close of this Age.  As part of our task, the
Level Above Human is using us to test them.  How they/you respond
to me, my students, and our information will, in fact, judge you
as to whether you will or will not have a further relationship
with the Kingdom of Heaven.  In other words, coming in contact
with this information will force a decision, and with the stand
you take, you judge yourself.  Some, by their choice at this time,
could be redeemed.  Those who accept us and endure until we leave
will go with us, and not need to experience the “spading under”
or recycling of this planet – and will in the future become beginners
in the real Kingdom of Heaven.

Believe it or not – Your choice – Your judgment.

I hope this will assist you in whatever you might be seeking.
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Blood Moon – Harvest (Ceres lights/Pluto related) Moon & Pope Francis anti-Jesus message

On this harvest blood moon eclipse immediately following the huge revelations of Lights on Ceres, which was named after the Goddess of the Harvest, I was seeing some posts about the Pope and saw some questioning how he can be talking about helping the poor and all – teaching that and sort of reprimanding in his gentle way those who don’t, while he sits as the leader of the Holy See that is a sovereign state that is over the state of Vatican City that includes what is referred to as the Vatican Bank and it’s huge assets. I’ve seen so many talking about this where I live and part of my vehicle’s family and friends enjoying the Pope even though they aren’t necessarily Catholic or Christian or even believers in a Kingdom of creators. So when I saw some talking about this wondering about the truth, I had to chime in:

The differences between what Jesus taught and what the Popes, the Catholic hierarchy and most of the Christian organizations teach is enormous and practically all inclusive. In other words Jesus, the real Jesus is not in their behavior and ways except for that stupid crucifix and an occasional reference to a miracle, parable or distortion of what he said. This is easy to prove. I’ll start with a few:

1) Jesus said to call no man your “Father” (Abba) in the context of they way he was using “Father” as he never spoke about his human father that we have no evidence existed. Yet all these priests go by Father this and Father that.

2) Jesus said when you pray go into your closet to pray in secret so your Heavenly Father could answer you in secret – and what do we see – all these group prayers and priests and pastors leading their congregations in prayer. The way they got around  this was to close your eyes and bow your head.  Jesus also said to NOT use vain repetitions and what have those prayers they teach but worthless words. (That’s not to say some who use them don’t feel what they are saying. It’s personal but the point is that it instills a mindset that is less than real and in relationship to one’s Heavenly Father.  Ti and Do did give their students a few “mantra’s” and “meditations” but they were relative to the current lesson step and could be depended upon to mean what the words said which also was the way it was for Jesus disciples and those that became students who Jesus “delegates” (apostles) shared what Jesus taught them to think, say and do. But after those students lost their vehicles the accuracy of what Jesus taught began to disappear even faster than after he exited because the eye witnesses to the truth were gone. Then when it became meshed with the government in Rome that imposed further distortions to where those words in the Lords Prayer still can mean a lot to some while a big part of their meaning has been smothered by all else that was added in dogma and misinformation.

3) confession: When you trespass against someone, for instance say you are “angry with your brother [sister]” “without cause”, which would then be a sin, Jesus said to go to that person and apologize, but what do they have you do – go to confessional where you may or may not be told to go make amends and then they mislead you to  think they have the authority to forgive your sin against another.

4) Jesus said when you give, don’t let your left hand know what your right hand is doing – in other words, it’s not a planned giving and nor was it meant to be a percentage of your income as they instruct.

5) Jesus said not to try to look holy nor when you are fasting smear ashes on your face, yet the Catholics still have that ash Wednesday ritual.

6) we were not to bow down to graven images and yet they have all those statues and people all over the world hang them on their car mirrors or have bobble heads and many pray to those statues and the dead body of the student of Jesus who Jesus didn’t say to pray to either of. It was really simple. Pray to your Father in Heaven.

7) Then there is all this Mary stuff – praying to Mary – the same deal – a student of Jesus at best. Now  those are some of the obvious distortions. The bigger ones surround teaching these things to others. That according to Jesus is an unforgivable sin because it is influencing someone to think they are relating to their Heavenly Father by participating in a religious ceremony and giving them money and seeking their advise and doing the things they came up with to do.

The truth is that Francis is ushering in the One World Religion whether he thinks of it that way or not. The Holy See is a sovereign state that the Vatican city state is under. Technically the Holy See doesn’t own all the assets in the Vatican Bank but the Holy See and the Cardinals are all the top dogs in the organization that manages those holdings. Yes he is saying things that hardly anyone can not find pleasing to hear and thus giving hope they say – having lunch with a few homeless. It’s a show. I’m not saying he’s not genuine – it’s just that what he is genuine about is not demonstrating anything Jesus was genuine about which means he is literally anti-Jesus and anti the Christing (overcoming process).

Now it’s not for me to judge him personally but it is for me and anyone else who sees through these distortions to reveal them when it seems someone wants to know. All this is allowed by the Evolutionary Level Above Human, the Older Members of which were called Heavenly Fathers, (called that because they dwell among the literal heavens) because it provides us with choices of what to believe and to whom to show our allegiance – to humans or to the Next Level Older members, whom many think of as their Heavenly Father.

These are actual real people being referred to by that identification to help us see them as our parents. There were actually two among us, the One called the Father and the one called the Son who was in the vehicle named Jesus ~2000 years ago, but this time the Father came in a female vehicle and took the name Ti and came to get her Son going who took a male vehicle and took the name Do.

The Pope said the Family was all important. Jesus was not a proponent of the human family as he wanted us to be able to outgrow our humanness to become a new Being with a NEW FAMILY OF THESE OLDER MEMBES AND OUR FELLOW STUDENT GRADUATES. Those graduates are the only genuine “saints”, to include anyone who gives their all to their Heavenly Father now trusting they will get the help to detach from their human roots, something all must do anyway when we die so this way it’s accepting that ahead of time and trusting Them to help us through.

Giving 100% doesn’t look like joining some religious order or talking all holy all the time or not having any fun. It simply means one wants to become putty in the Older Members hands and let them provide us with what we do and what is fun knowing that it’s a process to overcome our humanness and it’s no one else’s business but it includes “working for the Older Members” which at this time for those that know about them means working for Ti and Do even though they are no longer incarnate. That is done by studying all they said which is all freely available and applying as much as we choose as fast as we choose while talking to them and “taking a stand” for our belief in them and what they taught.

Ti and Do will let you know they have heard you if you ask them. There are no leaders, nor group, no membership in some cult or society, no rituals, no one to give money to and thus no corruption. Some things will be hard to believe but if you connect to Ti and Do and ask for help you will begin to trust in everything they said and did but that of course won’t be easy.  It’s actually making application to join their team and they don’t need new team members. It’s simply why they design “gardens” – to offer their real next evolutionary kingdom to humans who know this is right for them to pursue. They know what they have is worth it so it’s their joy to offer it to us.

To add to the idea of this being the prophetic harvest moon turned into blood red:

I could be wrong but I at this time believe tonight’s blood moon is not just another, but considering all else that’s been happening as signs in the Sun, Moon and Stars as Jesus said would accompany this time, this may be the prophetic one. Here are the three prophecies about this:

Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day ((age, time period)) of the LORD come.

Acts 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day ((age, time period)) of the Lord come:

The Acts are not Jesus words necessarily but “terrible” also means “revered” and “awful” as in demonstrating things to be full of awe about.

Revelation 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

This next application of a moon becoming blood may happen for another reason from the eclipse but it’s possible it could be the next one like happened tonight on 9/27/2015 which is said to not occur again for 33 years.

That is very interesting actually as the evidence I’ve seen for the last 7th angels trumpet sounding was in the National Geographic’s special, “Final Report: Heaven’s Gate” – They even named it “final” to go with the last of 7 trumpets sounding – perhaps a coincidence or perhaps part of the Next Level crews legwork that I know they do. That was aired on October 17, 2008, a little less than 7 years ago. If that marked the start of the next “hour”, with an “hour” Next Level time equal to approximately 40 earth years then that would put the next blood moon at the time of this sixth seal’s opening in Rev 6:12 where we are currently about to enter the 4th seals opening following the Black horse Obama’s 3rd seal opening and the (red and blue led) global financial crisis as indicated related to wall street that followed the 2nd seals opening with G.W. Bush’s Red (Masonic color/Republican led Ruddy endless global war on terror that followed the Rev 11 “great shaking” as the 9/11 attacks that followed Do and crews first seal opening when they conquered their humanness by laying down their human vehicles to graduate the human kingdom (for some graduate to their next station towards graduation from the human kingdom as Do indicated some may have to return for further lessons incarnate (after the recycling)).

The Rev 19 White Horse may be Do returning in the “glorified body” he took into the cloud of light (ufo) spacecraft as Jesus

I am NOT suggesting he walks around on the planet in this body and this is not a thorough addressing of the idea yet, as I just came upon a Christian who suggested it was his glorified body which I hadn’t considered til then and it made a lot of sense in that this body is described as being “dipped in blood”, so it would not be that body he last occupied as Do. And it also indicates he is returning in his spacecraft with his armada (my word) being the graduate student body who also have “clean white fine linen” bodies and this is part of the battle of Armageddon which is in progress as it’s a battle for souls but what we don’t see much evidence of is how that has it’s physical manifestation in the way governments are preparing to do battle against what they believe to be the space aliens that space aliens have called the bad aliens which are in reality not the reptilians but are Do (in the Jesus glorified body) and Crew as prophesied by Jesus in the parable of the tares. They are returning to oversee the spading of those humans who have become weeds (which I remind we have no capacity to decide who they are specifically, except to know they exist and are running the affairs of the planet and of course don’t consider themselves weeds and these are also assisting Do and Crew by doing some of the spading themselves). I believe that any innocents that lose their lives during this process, may or may not have their spirits  saved by Do and Crew. That’s for the Crew to decide who they have a relationship with.

For any that think this is all over just because there are quite times or the recycling isn’t obviously in full swing yet, if they are alive in the next years they will see more and more to help them change their minds and those that work for Ti and Do by disseminating their information will be put to greater tests that could result in the loss of their physical bodies in the process which will simply be an acceleration of their own progress toward overcoming their humanness and graduating into Next Level membership. Ti and Do didn’t leave all their information behind just for the heck of it and it wasn’t left behind to start a new church/religion with. It was to provide the truth to those that can still embrace it and choose to. It’s our job to make it available continuously in all ways we can until it’s time for our exit. Those who try to preserve their lives in this world, by keeping their belief to themselves risk losing their life in the next world as Jesus said. I don’t know the criteria exactly for others but for me, I’ve got to tell the truth as much as possible for my remaining time in this vehicle.

With this explanation of the title of this post, here is what brought me to this title and post:

I found this site that provides some good bible study for those that want to examine to see what many Christians are saying about various subjects so one can talk their language better and be able to also address where they may be putting a less accurate meaning to scripture.

So I have included a scripture that I didn’t agree with and why: Here is the text followed by the site where I got it and then my comment I left for the publisher that was a quick rebuttal that included the revealing of Ti and Do as the Father and Jesus returned as the Two Witnesses and some clues as to how they fulfilled prophecy in that regard but is far from all the evidence, but at least this gives some a chance to look into the possibility for their own stakes in their relationship with the Next Level.

Thus the bible teacher I found said regarding the two mentions of a “white horse”, which I actually believe he is correct that the second mention in Rev 19 is referring to a “glorified” return, in other words, in his body from 2000 years ago. He provides the two verses below:

*** Start of Bible Teachers Interpretations:

Revelation discusses two prophetic horses, which are both the same color and seem to represent truth and righteousness. This is the conclusion drawn from several Bible Commentaries (Adam Clarke’s Commentary, JFB Bible Commentary, etc.). The truth is, only ONE of the horses is of God!

2. And I looked, and behold, there was a white horse; and the one who was sitting on it had a bow, and a crown was given to him; and he went out conquering, and to conquer. (Revelation 6:2, HBFV)

11. And I saw heaven open; and behold, a white horse; and He Who sat on it is called Faithful and True and in righteousness He does judge and make war . . . 13. And He was clothed with a garment dipped in blood; and His name is The Word of God. (Revelation 19:11, 13)

Clearly, the horse of Revelation 19 represents righteousness and is rode by a glorified Jesus. The rider is clothed in a garment ‘dipped in blood,’ which is Christ’s own blood shed for our sins, and his name is the ‘word of God,’ which is precisely what the apostle John calls Jesus (John 1:1).

What is the meaning of the first horse? For starters, Jesus does not need to receive a crown, which means GIVEN the power (sometime in the future) to conquer or take control. Christ has ALREADY received the ‘crown’ of dominion over the entire universe (Matthew 28:18, Mark 14:62, Colossians 2:10, etc.). Second, Jesus does not need to conquer anything, as conquering implies a struggle where either side has a chance (however small) of gaining victory. Satan has ALWAYS lost against God and has a ZERO chance of ever winning even the tiniest of battles! He utterly and totally FAILED to get Jesus to sin just one time! In fact, the devil did not have the power to unilaterally lay a single finger against just ONE person (Job 1 – 2), but instead had to ask God for permission! At his Second Coming, Jesus will assert his right to rule over mankind with a display of power the goal of which is to get people to repent (see Revelation 9:20 – 21, 16:9).

The horse of Revelation 6 represents the ability of Satan to deceive and SEEM like he represents God. According to the apostle Paul, one of Satan’s primary tactics is to lead people astray by appearing to be “an angel of light” who represents the truth (2Corinthians 11:13 – 14). He is, however, the father of deception and lies, and a master counterfeiter. In the end time, God permits him (Revelation 11:2, etc.) to deceive all mankind into thinking he is their ‘savior.’ The devil’s goals, however, are to kill ALL true Christians, have humanity worship and obey HIM, and gather an army to FIGHT the return of Jesus Christ (see Revelation 13:4 – 7, 14:11, 16:12 – 16, 17:14 – 18, 19:17 – 21, 12:9)! Paul also tells us that if the devil can appear to be righteous or ‘white’ so can the angels who follow him (2Corinthians 11:13).

The meaning of the two white horses of Revelation are not the same but rather represent two completely different things!

*** End of Bible Teachers interpretation and his website address:

http://www.biblestudy.org/bible-study-by-topic/meaning-of-colors-in-the-bible/meaning-of-color-white.html

Sawyer’s question/comment to him: (which is unusual that he provides this avenue as many don’t want questions anymore):

Excellent work, but I have one objection that is a question, re: your interpretation of the Rev 6:2 white horse being Satan. I believe you are mistaken that Jesus doesn’t need to conquer anything. He is simply doing it for his disciples, showing them how. When he said, “I have overcome the world” that implies that he had something to overcome and it’s the same word used for “conquer and prevail”. In fact an Israelite is one who prevails as Jehovah – is an overcomer/conqueror. I say the “bow” is both the “covenant” and thereby those who have been covenanted, thus the bride of
christ in the end times. Also, this was the opening of the first seal. The seal is on the book of Rev 5 that the “lion of juda” opens. So Jesus is opening the seal which is the revealing of the truth like you said, which is the word that comes across as a thunderous roar related to the seven thunderous roars of rev 10 during the sixth trumpet when the two witnesses prophesy. So they are delivering the 7 thunders/roars and one of them is Jesus returned in a new “flesh body” (son of man=offspring of mankind(human). The other is the Father. He has a crown because he is birthed to the throne by the rev 12 woman who depicts the Father as Jesus said he and his Father would return and his disciples the returned saints/angels will be able to sit with the father and speak to him directly at that time but the father will leave by the earth swallowing the body he takes meaning his body dies. Also in rev 11:7 the two witnesses are not killed. Apokteino is “separation” (apo) by/from death (kteino) and it’s stated that they are first subdued (overcome) and then separated by death before the nations, tongues which means they are in the media shot down. Dead body meant subduing of their physical bodies in front of the world who would see them as frauds in their claim to be the two witnesses. I believe these were Ti and Do of the heaven’s gate group, so my question is whether or not you might reconsider at least the interpretation of the white horse who is the returned Soul who served as Jesus in a new physical body what is made pure (white), while Do’s body was also named “applewhite”. Satan does come looking white too. That’s what a sheep in wolves clothing is and a false Christ. A Christ is someone who had overcome the human world through the pressing of oil from their abiding by the commandments of God to be worthy of harvest. Each who is of the first fruit harvest must also conquer/overcome as it says in Rev 2-3 to get their own crown and is why the white horse rider conquers and then goes a conquering. Firsts he overcomes his humanness (the body he takes) and then he takes his student body through overcoming the bodies they take to complete their overcoming having conquered 2000 years ago by giving their lives to his service though they had a little more to do as they were not quite ready to graduate yet then. They were the same souls who were with Moses and they were 42 first fruits with Do when they voluntarily laid down their lives as Jesus had said was the greatest love, for him. It was not suicide for them because they were NOT those physical bodies except that they needed to change those physical bodies into vehicles that would serve the Kingdom of God, Kingdom in the literal heavens.

Ti and Do’s names, communications from them now – study their information to know their Minds

I was asked if Ti and Do were their Next Level names and about communication with Ti and Do now:

No they are not their Next Level names. The physical bodies they have in the Next Level have their own names and they (ti and do) were not privy to those names. All I know about their choice is that t they are based on a scale to where Ti being Do’s Older Member brought Do to his next octave. I think this was illustrated by Revelations chapter 12 which was about Ti and how she “birthed” Do to “fatherhood”, which is why she just came to get him started and thus exited before him and the graduate student body.

By the way, Do said initially that he thought he put his physical body of the Next Level in a “closet” to come here, while he said that Ti didn’t need to do that as her mind had grown to operate more than one vehicle at a time. She didn’t need to bring all her Mind with her to do this task.

I also know that Ti and Do found the musical, The Sound of Music, as part of their awakening to their task, feeling their Next Level helpers stimulated it’s design to serve that function as that’s how the awakening stages are planned.

Do actually said, the Older Member of the Next Level who took vehicle named Bonnie Nettles that became known as Ti was the same individual who had designed the task and even served them while incarnate, as Their Older Member.

They never got into analyzing every scene of the movie or anything like that though we did watch it 3-4 times in the 19 years I was with them. I think we did have a meeting to where students brought up parallels they saw, which is something often done after seeing certain movies.

I only have clues to how Ti and Do receive communication from the one serving as their Older member, combined with my own experience. Do or a student will come to me in a dream to tell me something. It’s either in response to something I asked about or to offer me correction. Sometimes I am offered correction by actions alone. One time I awoke and got dressed and made my bed and felt like Do was sitting at my dining room table though I didn’t see anyone. I knew why he was there. He didn’t have to say anything in that case. (now I have asked for correction and to be on Their team in any way large or small requires receipt of correction.

When I’m doing my radio broadcasts or even writing like now, my antenna are certainly up to not say anything that’s misleading or inaccurate as to the intent, though it’s part of my job I feel to look for ways to say things that convey what to many are very difficult ideas to register and digest and even embrace. I have felt often “stopped in my tracks” getting into talking about things that are so far removed from what’s needed to accomplish the task that it’s a distraction and may even be misinformation. That’s using my old human mind as opposed to drawing only from my Older members Mind. Any time I have a thought I think they stimulated it’s always appears as a subtle tiny thought, but has their signature all over it.

However, all these communications are not to be trusted 100%. I’ve also had entities masquerade as Do and stimulate the image of Applewhite in a dream. But when I looked close at the content of the dream, I knew it wasn’t Do. Before I left I had grafted to his Mind to some degree that it held enough after I left that I didn’t totally throw away everything they gave me or use it to mount at attack against them as some dropouts in ways have.

 

There are lots of masqueraders so for anyone coming into a stronger belief in who Ti and Do are should put their trust on only the words they have provided. What I say can help in the interface and with things that are at best in one of the 300 or so audio tapes they had us make of meetings, about half of which have not been provided, which is not in my control as some other believers for whatever reason have not released them.

Most communications come by people and events saying something or doing something. something on the news or in some media that when we hear it, a little sense pops up like a popup window that says something to the affect of,  “I wonder if that was Ti and Do’s answer” in which case one could cautiously take a step in the direction it suggested. Ti and Do always said, “if in doubt don’t” and yet at the same time, “take a chance on a positive”. That’s what faith is – taking a chance on a positive. And while taking that positive chance step see how it feels. They won’t give anyone more than they know they can handle and they won’t have us break the laws of the land though they said we could go 3-4  miles over the speed limit. These are not Next Level laws – it’s just to not be interfered with in our task for the Next Level. Jesus spoke to that also as he did to many things Ti and Do said and did but rarely referred to scripture about and never quoted chapter and verse and on only one occasion did Do give a bible lesson. It was on Rev 12 – and Ti didn’t come to that meeting but it was when Do told us that the Woman in Rev 12 was Ti. He hardly got more than a couple verses into the chapter but I have since seen many correlations with what Ti and Do did with those verses as well as nearly all Jesus was quoted to have said.

I suspect some of those dropouts from Ti and Do’s classroom that went against Ti and Do, not by my judgement to see but by Ti and Do’s judgement to see, may become part of the next crop of Luciferians. The last crop of Luciferians will be recycled this go around.

Several new believers told me of dreams they had with Do in them and when I heard them, it “sounded” to me like something I could see Ti and Do saying and/or doing.

By the way, I can assume nothing and I can fail my task and I know they don’t need me. They could get someone else to do the task I’m doing if they felt it necessary. I did not drop out thinking I had another task to do. I dropped out because I failed to make the grade necessary to graduate now. Since I have chose to return to their service, they are giving me some service.

 

Space Aliens=Nephilim=Antichrist re-appears after Obama riding Rev 6:7 Green human

A letter to L.A. Marzulli, one of the more open minded popular Christian broadcaster/bloggers:

I don’t care if you post this as I know you don’t like what I say, but I did want to comment on your Nephilim post (link posted  below) but comments were turned off, so I’ll state what I wanted to offer here. Like Bpearthwatch and others the “Antichrist” is expected to return BEFORE Jesus returns. I don’t disagree with that, though I believe your missing that Jesus return was in two phases, incarnate as a “son of man” (offspring human) for the first fruit, his small group of disciples his Father gave him and the second not incarnate but to be witnessed in the sky/atmosphere/near space and potentially on the surface  (but not incarnate) for the second fruit, those perhaps as many as 144 to 144,000  “saved” for future lesson time after recycling.

So then where is the Antichrist depicted.? Ti and Do said that the ALL the space aliens were the fallen angels. Now that doesn’t mean they still have the physical bodies they had that Enoch and Moses in Genesis 6 talked about, but that would explain how the Nephilim as the offspring of the hybridization program of the fallen angels (once sons (offspring from Their seeding of souls into human vehicles) of God) who grew into service as “watchers” working for the kingdom of God in an elementary fashion because they hadn’t yet proved themselves incorruptible so they were never provided with incorruptible physical bodies).are among us now as the space aliens the fallen angel descendants. Now yes, we know that there are many humans in places in power that are also of their seed. Like the space aliens they are all spiritual atheists regardless of religious affiliations that are meaningless anymore as it’s really coming down to recognition of the One true many membered kingdom of God(s) whose abodes are wherever they are working and are not limited to any one place in the universe who are above human in every way biologically and technically and mentally, etc. and the “human kingdom” which includes the space aliens as they are all mammals and are limited to trying to survive by increasing their numbers by mammalian methods of reproduction and having to eat and have technologies to try to get off the planet before it’s recycled again and some of them are forced to flee underground to try to survive as they did during the flood so that they were able to start over after the flood. Their spacecrafts can work underwater as well as out of water, though their time is coming when all “souls” who live in the sea will be spaded (killed) by the Next Level. Now for the Antichrist reappearing in a physical body again. I believe this is depicted in some detail in:

Rev 6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

Pale is only a remote translation for the Greek “chloros” which is green. Pale it seems came from the idea of a plant that is a yellowish new shoot which can also be the case as a descriptor of the physical body(s) these two take, I suspect there will be many ways “green” describes these two. Remember green was the original way in which we thought of space aliens – green Martians, the moon was made of green cheese. Then there is “green” in terms of the “greens” politically, even the tea party, where tea is a plant and plants are “green” or yellow at first and then green once matured. Then there is green as from the emerald isle so there may be some Irish linkage. And green also has a military connotation as the camouflage of marines, thus some military aspect can be engaged, even martial law as some fear is down the road. And finally green in perhaps the biggest way that is a result of what many of the space aliens have said through contactees and channelers that is becoming the battle cry all over the world and congress is meeting about as we speak, the environmental green movement that is claiming humans are bringing about the global warming trend. It’s no mystery that when they had the Nobel peace prize given to Obama in Oslo a number of years ago it was at the same time as a big environmental conference. Those conferences never get anywhere because that’s not what they are really for but it is a way for countries to come together to talk about the NWO and at some of the deepest levels interchange data on the space aliens involvements. Yes, the space aliens are who are “riding” the Red, Black and Pale/Green horses (humans) via both their discarnate presence as all the original fallen angels I believe are dead so are in the discarnate world manipulating whatever humans can bring them the biggest bang for their agenda, while are also running the show of the space aliens, their immediate descendants by whatever reproductive methods..When I was researching Romney with his LDS leadership and space alien affiliations in their more secretive beliefs, he really seemed to fit for a number of reasons but I know there are many who can fit that role.

So of course we won’t have more of a handle on this thinking being true until about 2017 which I suspect will being the 4th stage in the birthing of Souls into Next Level membership because those that by then begin to wake up to the fact that Ti and Do were the incarnate return will be targeted and those who are public about their faith and spreading Ti and Do’s information will be apprehended and probably killed because of how such threatens so many in places of comfort and power in their beliefs.

There is a lot more on this and I have been given the keys to opening up all the scriptures eventually though I can only do so a little at a time. I actually don’t want you to post this as I’m realizing that for most of your followers it’s too much too fast to consider what I have to share. You know well how hard it was for you to grasp the reality to the way scriptures and space aliens intermingle. Most people can’t fathom much about space alien realities let alone thinking that the Kingdom of God/Heaven physical bodies they wear also look like what some space aliens have been programmed by the lower forces to look like. For instance the grays of Whitley Strieber are horrendous looking as with other contactee and abductee depictions. I’m not saying there are not space aliens that look like that but I believe they are suits to disguise what they really look like as they are probably reptilian looking and are influenced in their suit design to resemble Next Level vehicles as the Luciferians know what those vehicles look like. Ti had one drawn and I put it on my broadcasts that I put on my YouTube channel 3spm if you want to see it. They look kind and loving and gentle and have slightly larger than human heads and slightly larger eyes but other than that are very pleasant-looking and are humanoid like the Lord said they created humans in their likeness which was a visual likeness in the Hebrew.

Link to L.A.’s post about the Nephilim:

http://lamarzulli.wordpress.com/2014/03/10/nephilim/

 

Ti’s letters to her vehicles daughter were to help the daughter disconnect

Ti’s letters to her vehicles daughter were to help the daughter disconnect

In 1984, Ti tells her vehicle’s daughter in a letter that she is not coming back but does so as gentley as she could.

Some people take this letter as an indication Ti wanted to “get out” of what she and Do began upon meeting in 1972. Others think that Do was the driving force between them and she was under his spell. Most investigators fall into believing what Balch and Taylor publish about it, rather than take what Do wrote about his time meeting Ti until Ti’s exit of her physcial body. They quote Do when it’s to their advantage to build their case against him. In some cases there is conflicting evidence. For instance it was reported that Terrie said they met when Ti was sending her son to a music class Do was providing. What Terrie perhaps never heard or believed was that Ti and Do were both present a number of times when they went over their beginning and it was exactly as Do later wrote about it in the book, “88 Update – The UFO Two and their Crew”, saying how he met Ti at the hospital where he was visiting a sick male friend and Ti was substituting for another nurse in that ward and they started to have conversation about astrological signs that interested Do as Ti had been an amateur astrolger.

But pertaining to the the letters Terrie received from Ti in 1982, 1984 and 1985, here is an excerpt from the article:

IMPRISONED BY HIS OWN PASSIONS: Marshall Herff Applewhite
By Howard Chua-Eoan;PATRICK E. COLE/RANCHO SANTA MARGARITA, DEBORAH FOWLER/HOUSTON, JEANNE MCDOWELL/LOS ANGELES AND RICHARD WOODBURY/DENVER Monday, Apr. 07, 1997
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,986142-1,00.html#ixzz0gksBScOB

…”In 1982 Nettles had written to her daughter, informing her that she had had her eye removed because of a melanoma. The cancer, however, did not go into remission. Terrie Nettles said her mother contacted her again in 1984, saying she was so deep into the movement she didn’t know how to get out, that “there wasn’t a graceful way to leave.” In 1985 her mother said she was sending Terrie a “couple of hundred bucks” because “the time was coming close and coming to a point where they were leaving…that she would be transported by a UFO. Maybe she knew she was dying.” Nettles died that year. It would be months before her daughter found out.”

Here is my, Sawyer’s explanation of Ti’s mindset behind some of the content of the letters reported. I have not seen the full letters so can’t speak to the full context but give the little that was shared, I do feel some perspective:

Do told the student body that Ti had always told him in the beginning (~1972-1973), “I’m here to get you started. Then I’m going back”. Do said he always wondered what that meant. He couldn’t imagine that she was meaning she was going back to her human family.

After she left her body, that I believe was depicted in prophecy in:

Rev 12:16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

…as the “earth opened her mouth” depicting an earth based disease that broke down the vehicle, like Do said was from her “burning her vehicle out”, that I later saw in this verse, since Do nor Ti seldom taught out of the Bible, as the “flood” of Luciferian thoughts against her, started it’s first manifiestation in her eye close to three years before, Do knew what she was saying was that she would return to the Next Level before him.

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Ti hadn’t said the same kind of think to her daughter, Terrie, that she would be returning, at the time not fully awakened to who she and Do were, because they only significantly awakened after leaving Houston. They left on 1/1/1973 and spent the next “less than 6 weeks” in a rented farmhouse in Bourne, Texas, an hour or so southwest of Houston, just a bit north of Austin, Texas. It was there that they realized in no uncertain terms that they were both “from outer space” and were here to “bring updates to the bible” and “to fulfill prophecy”, though they had no idea what that prophecy was until a number of months later when at Gold Beach, Oregon.

So for Ti to say, if these were her words, as they wern’t put in quotes that she was, “so deep into the movement she didn’t know how to get out” when she was the greater part of how the entire movement got started seems more about saying something true but that Terrie could hopefully handle better. I know Terrie reported how it devasted her for quite a while. But frankly, had Ti wanted to, she could have left the same as anyone in the group, even for a brief visit, but then I would say that would have been actually a less thoughtful thing to do to Terrie, prolonging what Ti knew was the inevitability of her permenant end of their mother daughter relationship.

It seems Ti was doing exactly what she and Do were instructing their student body to do regarding the families they left behind – consoling them. In fact it was in around April of 1985 that Ti and Do suggested every student who had someone in their vehicle’s family that might still be sufferring anxiety at their absense, unknown whereabouts and/or infrequent to no contact, should pay them a brief visit. They said other family members could choose to meet at this one location.

We were living in Dallas at the time, actually in the same house near White Rock Lake where Ti exited her body from. I flew to New York City’s JFK international airport and was met by my vehicle’s dad. The plan was to stay with them for the weekend, just two nights and then fly back. We were instructed to not inform them of our actual arrival airline or departure to still afford our location in Dallas some protection as Ti and Do knew there could be some that would try to locate us.

Most of my vehicle’s relatives were at my folks house and we had a great visit. My vehicle’s mother had at one point wanted to hire an investigator to find me, to see if I was alive, especially after the 1978 Jim Jones people’s temple/suicide/murders. Most every member of the group flew somewhere for that weekend. It would have been easy to not return to Dallas, but no one chose to leave the group at that time.

After Ti exited her vehicle, nearly two years after the first visit, Do scheduled another visit. This time I went with a classmate, the woman I had joined with from the infamous Waldport, Oregon meeting that brought the story to the press in 1975 who I lived with near both our families homes in the early 70’s. I visited with her family during this second visit and she visited with my family. I also visited with Jwnody’s mother as she was also from Long Island and Jwnody and Ollody, who was visting with his family in Connecticut visited with my family as well. Do thought it would be good for the family to meet other members of the “cult” to see that we were with great people and my family did notice that. They also could see that given what I was before joining – a hippie musician living on the west coast and having next to nothing to do with my family in New York, I was now a clean cut person who had been a pastry chef and was beginning a computer career who had all these ideas about nutrition, etc. When my dad took me to the airport, he said to thank Ti and Do. At the time I wondered for what but realized it was for allowing me to visit but I doubt it was for his sake but for my mother’s that he was thankful for as he was the one who when my mother wanted to find me and pull me out of the cult he convinced her that I was doing what I wanted to do. After all I had written a very long letter when I joined and had been living on my own since graduating high school and had been quite the rebellious independant minded youth. My dad knew there was no changing my mind. For reasons I can only say were planned by the Next Level, I hitchhiked back to NY from Oregon weeks before going to the Waldport meeting. Looking back, I was saying goodbye to my brother, sister, mom, dad and grandparents.

On this second visit, I did have the opportunity to hook up with an old girlfriend who seemed to be hitting on me. I wasn’t at all interested in her nor leaving Ti and Do’s classroom. It wasn’t even a temptation. However on return from this second visit that most of the student body took advantage of, one student soon thereafter wanted to leave the class and a few months later was given a plane ticket and was sent to be with his brother in the San Francisco Bay area where he had visited. He then became the biggest public critic of Ti and Do even though he had nothing to say of any significance against them. He critisized them for having so many rules – like in what direction to shave I believe was one of his beefs. Of course that was taken out of context. It’s not like Ti and Do spent all this time coming up with rules. The rules came about because of problems or to provide conformity. Conformity was important for crew mindedness. Usually a rule like that would come up when a classmate would simply ask how Ti and Do would do something. Since taking in their mind was synonymous with thinking, talking and acting in the same ways they thought, spoke and acted, even though they didn’t tell us to mimic them, the more a student recognized the value in doing so, the more they sought to so the more questions of this sort. I believe this razor direction came up as a question on how to avoid a rash from shaving in which Do shared what he did. At that point it became a procedure but if someone was following that procedure and had a problem from it, it was procedure to write a note stating the problem to which there might be a new solution or an exception in their case. Can anyone imagine this being brought up in a public national news show interview as an example of how “controlling” they felt Ti and Do were, when he could have left at any time and didn’t even have to follow the instruction as no one watched anyone shaving.

Ti and Do were never following a script except one line at a time as lines were fed to them. They always said they were only “one step ahead of the students” so to still relate to them and what they had to go through in their overcoming/changeover to new above human beings. A huge part of that is to fully bond with our Older Member’s Mind who literally becomes our new family as Jesus also taught. As Ti and Do always said of the families left behind, they would be given a special opportunity to grow closer to their Heavenly Father because of your choices to become closer to your Heavenly Father. They knew it would still be painful to detach but that is what is required to sever one’s roots to a former evolutionary kingdom level just as it is with a plant that is pulled up from the earth by the Kingdom (Member) Above that plant. Those of our families in their pain can seek help from their Heavenly Father to deal with that pain and in so doing receive solice and recognition that they are fine and in good hands and that our acceptance of their adult decision, even if not understood fully, will become understood in time with continued faith and desire to understand.

In Ti and Do’s classroom there were many occasions where Do would, upon receiving reports of certain anxieties felt by certain classmembers about their vehicle’s families they left behind, suggest letters or phone calls to some. It would happen all on one day so students could free themselves from feeling that tug on their root system that would be a distraction for the task at hand in the separation from that root system. It takes time to separate from that root system. It’s not that those going through it enjoy disconnecting and nor do they not feel their families pain and sufferring at their absense from their lives. It’s that it can not go back to the previous relationship so to keep a family member hanging on would be cruel.

Of course for a society that doesn’t have this real sense of the reality of the Kingdom of God/Heaven, and what it takes to become a member, thinking it’s accomplished by going to church/temple and tithing and abiding by the ten commandments and studying and certain practices and techniques and assisting the poor or sick while believing that Jesus was their savior or in God the Father or Jehovah or Allah or Vishnu or Buddha or Ra or other associated names, it’s going to seem like an extreme or fanactic that would leave their family behind and be willing to even die for our Older Member and as a bond to their family. In some nations and cultures this kind of dedication to one’s creators is honorable but in these same cultures and especially in the western world, it’s only to some degree honorable if one does so by entering a traditional avenue thought to be a pathway to Godliness.

The Members of the Level Above Human thereby provide all some avenue to learn the hightest truths and let them judge themselves by their choice of what to seek and what not to seek in their continued relationship with the truth about the Level Above Human. This judgement time is in progress in an accellerate way as we speak. Of course it’s not accellerated by our standards necessarily unless we become aware of all there is to be aware of in how Crews from the Next Level are seeking out each seeker from among the human population on the planet and steering them by their thirst to awareness about Ti and Do. For those that never hear about Ti and Do nothing is lost. They will be judged by what they have had the chance to know and they will be given an earlier grade in school to continue with upon return to the next human kingdom environment on Earth following the recycling period of perhaps 1000 Earth years soon to start.

 

Q and A about whether Do’s vehicle had cancer or talked about it – plus their choices to be castrated

Questions:

I’ve read some of your articles.. do u really belive in aliens , ufos? Also wanted to ask, did Bo tell anyone that he had cancer?

Sawyer’s response:

1) Aliens, UFO’s

Yes I really believe space aliens exist and have circulated around this planet from way before the current civilization and were depicted by Enoch as the fallen angels and by Moses in Genesis as they WERE “sons of God(above human Beings), having been seeded at some point in the past on Earth and/or on another planet. UFO’s are simply transporation and these days are within the capacity of human governments to manufacture (within limits, as there is no natural source for antigravity found yet on our planet, so they are trying to create the energy needed from nuclear power while also trying to create the elements they know exist from the recovery of crashed “saucers”. G.W. Bush talked about this desire to find an “energy source that would boggle the mind” on the Moon and/or Mars the primary reason for the announcements of those expeditions. In the Moses encampment there was a “pillar of cloud” and a “pillar of light” that led them through the desert day and/or at night. Also the object termed “arc of the covenant” was more than a box to hold the stone tablets. It actually led the encampment when they traveled and in mouth to mouth handed down stories say that it literally killed snakes and scorpions from their pathway with some type of beam. If one looks at all the records biblical and from that period and before there is considerable evidence of flying objects. There is nothing in human imagination that arrives there without having originated in some way with something real provided by the Next Level (Kingdom of God/Heaven) though through the use of space aliens and discarnates. Therefore all things are provided humans by design by these Older Members from the Evolutionary Level Above Human. Even what looks automatic was designed in such a way to have that automation but even that is in a process of change. The Next Level, however are not the ones driving today’s “UFO’s” as they don’t want humans to be too confused by the space aliens who do operate space crafts that are metallic and can be seen at times. The Next Level do not abduct humans and have no hybridization programs and don’t try to teach humans to take care of their environment or create “contactees” among the humans to be their mouthpieces by appearing to them in spacecrafts or taking them onto spacecrafts to talk to them. That’s all space alien activity and all space aliens to date are the remnant of those who fell from their elementary positions for the Next Level long ago. The way in which we see Next Level activity is by “signs” as in Comets, asteroids, meteors, weather events, etc. This way it requires faith to perceive their existence where the space aliens seek to steal away someone’s loyalty from Next Level studentship as they did with Paul of Tarsus.

(2) Cancer?

No, I never heard Bo(Do) in person or in anything he wrote suggest he had cancer. After I left in September of 1994, I would not be surprised if he spoke of such a possability for his exit given that was the diagnosis for Ti’s exit from her vehicle. I know of the rumor that seems to be rooted in something Balch and Taylor published which may have come from a real source though could have easily been taken out of context as so many things are. However, by and large that was one of the many handy explanations for his decision to exit by laying down his life, that his student body was permitted to choose with him or seen as a way to entice his students to lay down their lives, by indicating he only had 6 months to live as was reported on CNN that initially came from Balch and Taylor.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Applewhite :

“From June to October 1995, the group lived in a rural part of New Mexico.[155] They purchased 40 acres (0.16 km2) and built a compound—which they referred to as the “Earth ship”—using tires and lumber;[156] Applewhite hoped to establish a monastery.[148] This proved to be a difficult endeavor, particularly for the aging Applewhite:[154] he was in poor health and, at one point, feared that he had cancer.[Balch & Taylor 2002, p. 221.] Lifton notes that Applewhite’s active leadership of the group probably led to severe fatigue in his last years.[158] The winter was very cold, and they abandoned the plan.[148] Afterwards, they lived in several houses in the San Diego area.[79]

Medical examiners determined that his fears of cancer had been unfounded, but that he suffered from coronary atherosclerosis.”

One can tell from this quote above how reporters and book writers tend to fill in the gaps with their opinions as they feel compelled to explain all this to others so no one thinks it could have been exactly what it represented itself as. According to Rio, Neody’s book, “Beyond Human Mind”, Do (Applewhite) worked on stuffing the tires with dirt, plus Do was strong enough to later go through a castration that did not go well but which he recovered from. That doesn’t sound like someone in “poor health” though at that time he was 64 and had been through various health problems. I tried to actually provide certain insights to this wiki article but because I’m not an academic or published am not counted as a source. For instance according to Rio, they left Manzano New Mexico by November saying it was because of the upcoming winter and they hadn’t abandoned the plan yet as they moved to Paradise Valley, AZ from there until it began to get hot. By then they did abandon the plan and sold the property and moved to Rancho Sante Fe to exit. But Do, even if he was fatigued wouldn’t have given into it, until it took him out. They didn’t know him so they were guessing.

Here is another article that probably pulled from the same sources, sumising that saying he had cancer was like a tactic, something Ti and Do never demonstrated nor had a need for, but then again this is the way humans would act so they can’t imagine anything else, so they become pervayors of misinformation:

From an article by Herman de Tollenaere who sites his Sources: Rob Nanninga (1997), Jezus in een UFO; De Groene Amsterdammer, 16 April, p. 8-9 (longer version in Skepter)
Various documents on the Internet, by Heaven’s Gate and others, originally published, in slightly different form, in the Indian Skeptic, 15 August 1997:

“Applewhite had told them that he would soon die of cancer (according to the coroner’s post-mortem, he did not have cancer at all). If his devotees would follow him into death, a UFO, supposed to accompany the Hale-Bopp comet, would come and take them”

In this article there are many things said that are sound byte-ish and because of that are misunderstood by those who don’t seek out the full truth of the matter – a choice to make. With that said, here is a little background on some of the health related things Do went through and his thinking about them that I witnessed first hand and can actually find a few former members to back up if I had to:

From Rio’s book, Do did undergo a complication from his castration surgery but recovered. Well before that while I was in the group he contracted Rocky Mountain spotted tick fever and told us he felt Ti okayed (Ti had exited by then) his leaving his vehicle then, but he chose to stay. I remember how weak he was then. Before that, in the year after Ti left her incarnation he had a hernia operation but recovered from that as well. Whenever we moved, and we moved a lot and we had a lot of stuff to fill three big homes with appropriate furnishings so the home would look normal to the owners and workmen that would occasionally come through, Do would try to help carry stuff and we would stop him and tell him we needed him to lead us, not to help us carry stuff. This was after he had recovered from his hernia operation but we didn’t want to see anything else to happen to him. I can honestly say that many of the students loved him more than I knew how.

A couple years before I left, Do was concerned that we might each die off from “natural” means and hated having to experience that as we were certainly a family. Ti and Do both always spoke of preferring to be “accellerated out of their vehicles” by a human. They always joked that they hoped if it came to that, the human would “shoot straight” so that their vehicle would not be left a vegetable. Both of them had this mindset which is one of the many reasons I know Do didn’t change anything in that thinking after Ti left. If anything he was more cautious not to do something he was in the least bit in question of whether or not it was from Ti’s mind. They both had a rule; “if in doubt don’t” and especially applicable to things that could not be reversed.

But even if he had been diagnosed with Cancer, that would have had nothing to do with his desire to exit and would have had nothing to do with being sure each of the students was choosing to exit for the only ultimate “right” reason a human can have – doing so for another as Jesus taught was the greatest show of love as talk of love is moreorless worthless as love really is all about “giving” though when on the receiving end that “love” can also be experienced (received). However niether Ti or Do ever based their actions on what Jesus said though knew what Jesus had said. That’s not to say they didn’t take the record of what Jesus said and did as substantiation to what they felt instructed to say and do. Do would at times instruct myself or a few others who gravitated to scriptures to look certain things up.

I do know that Do had a doctor do the castration and understood that he went to Mexico to have it done though that was not the case for some of the students who went to Boulder, Colorado to have the operation. But I’m not sure where the Mexico idea came from on his castration. It may have been assumed from a report I gave of the first castation of Srrody in which I was to also experience the operation. We put up a sign in the sterile room where Lvvody performed the operation on Srrody that said “Mexico” but it was actually performed in San Clemente. Lvvody was a registered nurse and had recently been the assistant to surgery for an Orchectomist so knew the procedure. Even though as there was a slight complication Do decided to cancel my operation. But using the sign Mexico was a way to be able to tell a little white lie about where the operation was performed as at that point we knew that this could be seen as a major crime by authorities and they couldn’t find a doctor that would perform the operation. One could find a doctor to perform sex change surgury but to eliminate sexuality was considered insane, though srrody and I as others had been celebate in body and mind (though I did not always control my eyes 100%) for some 16 years by then.

For those who are still trying to disprove that Ti and Do were who they said they were, saying Do had cancer or harping on it as evidence of what they think motivated he and the student body is one more easy out, (which I remind, the Next Level Older Members want to provide as that’s the basis of providing the luciferian space alien fallen angels mindset in the first place as it provides free will to choose what to believe and what not to believe) because if he knew he was dying it would look easier for him to choose the time/place/method of his exit and then that of course paints him as evil to lead others in that same direction when they didn’t have a life threatening illness called cancer. But as I can document extensively and do but few care to consider, there never was any misleading.

But among the many things few will look at is why would he have had a castration in 1996 right after they moved away from the “compound” they were building near Manzano, New Mexico, the Earthship they had spent 6 months building diligently, if he knew he was going to die of cancer in 6 months and was considering laying down their lives as they did, cancer or not, which was part of the plan before I left that I was witness to in September of 1994. In other words, since laying down their lives was discussed in public meetings in September of 1994 that prompted several to leave who had joined from the 1994 9 months of the second face to face public offering of the information, why bother with castrations? According to Rio, two students left their Paradise Valley location with the instruction that if they wanted to be castrated they would have to move away from their location to be on their own and would have to get jobs to pay for it on their own. Alxody and Vrnody did accomplish that. Upon return more wanted to do the same and that’s when Do decided he needed to experience it before letting others proceed. So he did buy moving away and it’s not clear but there is some indication he moved to a different location and got a job as a janitor but had a complication as said. Rio reports that Do said it’s better to know the worst of it too. After that a few more males opted for the operation. I have reported that this procedure had been years in consideration before Srrody and I were approved by Do to go ahead with it. I had even told Do at one time, I wanted to leave the class to go to Mexico to have it done. That was my zealot side and as it turned out, not exactly for the right reasons. I was trying to beat Srrody to demonstration of my loyalty by going to that length. But I never told that to Do as it only became clear to me after I left in 1994. But then in about 1991, Do told me to wait and it would be over a year later when Do after continuiung to get petitioning from Srrody and myself independantly that he said he had received instruction to provide us with the procedure.

Of course investigators just say…something to the affect that he was “crazy”, etc. and from a strictly human perspective they all were as I am and as each of us recognize is very far afield from otherwise so called normal human thinking. Of course if you are changing your body for vanity, that’s considered within the norms today. But I am thankful for being “crazy” because the behavior and ways of many humans in this world is hideous to me and not just because of all the profiteering, manipulations, deceit, predatory judgmentalism, self centeredness, arrogance, intellectual and/or spiritual and/or religious so called superiority that is seen as normal. Manipulation is the rule in our society. It’s called politics and/or advertising/sales and business savy/marketing and it’s as dishonest as the day is long. I’m not 100% free of all these vibes entirely either and do not have the capacity to judge anyone except by their behaviors that are anti life choices and for those that don’t know any better, they are not held accountable but for those that do know better the best thing that can happen on the planet, though not at all enjoyable to witness is a spading that actually is being engaged by one another against one another, while giving some the choice of who to give their allegiance to between the Level Above Human and the Human kingdom. For those that have heard of Ti and Do, it’s between Ti and Do and the Human Kingdom. As Jesus said, to those that much is given to, much is required.

 

New Revelations Mysteries Unsealed Video Series

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NEW Revelations Mysteries Unsealed – The Two Witnesses of Revelations 11 and 12

This 2 hour broadcast covers Rev 11 Two Witnesses, bringing brand NEW translation/interpretations to most of the chapters verses that show how we are currently in the period of the 7th Angel’s sounding (trumpet). Also talk of Comets as Signs from Kingdom of Gods from the literal heavens with comet ISON’s proposed trajectory over the Ohio valley in line with the large array of fireball sightings in March of 2013. February of 2013 was 40 years (one hour Next Level time) from when Ti and Do were in Bourne, Texas. This was the “3rd woe” I believe that consisted of the Feb 15 meteor over Russia that did a lot of damage. See Wikipedia – search on Russian meteor for lots of good data. That was followed by fireballs and/or meteors over japan, Indonesia, Australia, New Zealand, England and California. That was followed by the near miss asteroid like a shot over the bow of the earth that prompted U.S. congressional talks about how to deal with asteroids. That was followed by March 10-20 by the Pan Starrs comet that I saw a photograph posted by NASA to have a companion object in it’s coma. That was in front of it’s path close to it’s head. Hardly a piece breaking off. And this was the anniversary of Hale Bopp’s with it’s photographed pic of the companion object. That was followed all done by April 2013 by fireball and/or meteors sightings from Vermont to Florida with the biggest density along the Ohio basin down to the Virginias – the belly of the beast which is the area where bpearthwatch claims ISON will fly over with it’s huge trail of largish objects which seems to be defying the calculated timing.

Also talk about UFO’s crashes and release of the Luciferian space alien fallen angels in Rev 9:1 from their underground prisons in the 1940’s – 1950’s.

On vimeo:

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NEW Revelations Mysteries Unsealed – The Four Horses (humans) of the Apocolypse

This broadcast mostly covered Revelations chapter 6, what has been referred to as the four horses of the Apocalypse. Scripture indicates in this context these 4 horses are actually depicting humans, as to the Next Level a human is like a horse. This context is explained in Zechariah. Marshall Applewhite was the name of the White Horse, having as prophesied: Rev 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; This “vehicle” (body) was “sit upon” – taken over for His task by the same Soul who last had a physical vehicle named “Jesus”. Jesus said the eye is the lamp of the eye. An lamp gives off light, thus through his eyes others can come to see. G.W. Bush was the “horse”. A discarnate luciferian space alien inhabited him and used him as a figurehead to stimulate “endless war”. Then Obama, as the black horse is also influenced by a discarnate Luciferian space alien to help steer the two beasts of the republicans and democrats with his focus while in office being financial. He inherited financial crisis and wall street people became his closest advisers.

Tags: Jesus,revelations,prophecy,apocalypse,two witnesses,horse,ti and do,bo and peep,Heaven’s gate,end times,judgement day,Moses,Jehovah,second coming,rapture,heaven

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New Revelations Mysteries Unsealed – The Rev 12 Woman is Ti incarnate

Talk about the astronomical references to Rev 12:1 where the “woman clothed Sun” where sun = a ray of light and Sun representing the Father is saying that this individual is that “light ray” that chooses to wrap around her “light body”, the actual Soul that came from the Next Level by discarding their existing physical body in a “ufo crash”, the body of a human woman (as there are no male or female members of the Next Level, and all these revelations have literal application to the end times we are certainly engaged within). The use of “clothing” is rooted in what we wrap around our body and there are many references to “making our clothing pure, related to light and related to white (though as a race are certainly not pure but are actually anything but as purity is not based on skin pigment but IS based on behavior and ways). For instance “cleaning our robe”, putting on white raiment, etc. as to the Next Level a physical body is LIKE clothing in that if it’s removed They are NOT dead, while in the human kingdom they are dead – (discarnate) and still exist as a spirit to eventually be recycled at the garden’s recycling time, while if that human bonded with a Next Level incarnate representative while they were incarnate or soon afterwards then when they die their “soul body” however tiny and even seed like in it’s development is “saved” so is literally taken to a Next Level “heaven” a literal location in a Next Level dwelling (one of the levels in enoch’s described seven heavens). And the moon, in the next few words is the “body” that absorbs and reflects that “ray of light” to the Earth that serves as this Womans footstool, the way students can reach “her” (the Father) through as Jesus served and as Do served as.

Also spoke some on the next few verses in Rev 12 pertaining to the mistaken translation of “crown” from two distinctly different greek words and contexts, one referring to the dropout dragon’s fallen angels versus those who were slated to receive their royalty as kings having conquered the human kingdom which was depicted to be on this “woman’s” mind (head) for the task on earth.

Also talk about the adam and eve story with some new perspectives of how and why that took place.

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Debunked Christian saying Ti and Do were hybrids from fallen angels – plus Revelations 11

Covered lots of info about Ti and Do not covered before, but with some repetition and towards the end spoke about the debunking of the vague video inference to Ti and Do being hybrids from fallen angels. In the last 15 minutes re-translated and re-interpreted Rev 11:7-9 talking about how They are “overcome” is not the best descriptor. To subdue was more what happened and that is a completely viable translation option. And they later “separate from/by (earthy) death” as in “exit their human containers” when they have completed all they had to say with is not necessarily when their 1260 days of prophecy was completed as there are two words used. “Prophecy” and “witness”, where witness is also “record” or reporting to the judge. Then spoke of how their “dead bodies” was greek ptoma = “ruin or failed” not dead or body at all so that it matches with “subdued” and get rid of the extra words translators added, “shall lie” as they did have to lie at all. Street is a wide plate more like a public square but if it’s for people of kindreds and nations and tongues and nations that has to be a “melting pot” area that is covered by the media to accomplish which fits what happend in the US to Ti and Do. This area is likened to “spiritual” (non-physical) Sodom, and/also Egypt and Jerusalem so is NOT those places where this occurs. The public sees their ruin for a small period of time and it seems to indicate 7 years as there was 7 years from 1975 for the first media to 1982 with the TV Movie “Mysterious Two” though I may still have that wrong.

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DEBUNKED claim that Ti and Do are hybrids created by the “fallen angels”

The following is my DEBUNKING the claim that Ti and Do are hybrids created by the “fallen angels”. This person below, Daisy was simply mirroring another’s youtube video that she thought made this claim. It’s not a direct claim but see for yourselves as the video link does have some interesting things but is geared to attack the new agers which I don’t really find much fault with except for how she is preaching Ti and Do are a part which couldn’t be further from the truth for those brave enough to see for themselves by studying the information Ti and Do left behind.

Daisy says:

Ti and Do are two hybrid humans that are the result of fallen angels minipulating the dna of abductees and creating clones and hybrid offspring. I have a video on my channel, http://youtu.be/cnLmrhrOcTI this video and this woman calls Ti and Do her hybrid children?

Sawyer responds:

I will look at the video but I happen to know it’s based on more Luciferian space alien fallen angel mis/dis-information that there will be no proof of. For you to believe this is your choice and I’m glad you have that choice – choosing sides is very important to the One True Kingdom of Above Human Beings aka God from the literal heavens. We each become our own judge in this regard though when each of us die, They then based on our choices sort our souls/spirits into the appropriate locations for future opportunities for a new “overcoming program” or to provide “fertilizer” for the new overcoming program OR to be recycled the fate of the existing ones who are referred to as Luciferian space aliens. (I don’t know if all space aliens fall into this last category). I will respond to the video later.?

I watched the video and actually don’t have much to disagree about though see only tiny, tiny references that can be even remotely tied to Ti and Do. The abducted woman said she met her hyridized children and drew pictures of them and said their names were: Neo, and then two named Tia and Tio who were girl and boy and were holding hands and another Geo. If this was the reference, wow what a stretch that is. They have one name with the same first two letters, “Ti” and the other with the same last letter “o”. Also, when did this woman get implanted with the alien related seed. She looked young when she was videod. The human vehicles Ti and Do took (born again into flesh – latin carne where carnal comes from and thus an incarnation just like how Jesus was born into flesh) only ended up being named “Ti and Do” in 1977 having awakened in three stages that were completed by late 1973 when they were in Gold Beach, Oregon. (though they continued to receive instruction from Their “heavenly Father” – Ti’s Older Member not incarnate thereafter). By the way Jesus also evidenced two or three stages to his awakening. First as a young boy when he said he was “about his Father’s work” and next that propelled him to leave his life behind to go into the desert to fast and commune with his heavenly Father and deal with the Luciferian (probably discarnate) fallen angel space aliens, and then when it was witnessed as a “body lighting down like a dove upon his physical body when he came out of the water following John the Baptist’s administration of the representative “cleansing (overcoming) of his human body (world)”. Also, Do’s vehicle was 41 years old, and Ti 44 years old in 1973 so again an impossibility unless that woman’s testimony was shot at the latest in the 1940’s.

Then there was a reference in the end to these light children bringing an accelerated evolution to earth. The author may have taken that idea from Ti and Do but if so it is totally misapplied as evolution in Ti and Do’s mind was related to a Soul being “born of spirit” as Jesus said required of his disciples that they are “born again of flesh”, not this silly idea of “born again” by claiming it as a title that many Christians have been brainwashed to believe because of the real misinformation campaign that has been going on since Paul of Tarsus was shot with a laser by ET’s, not anything the Kingdom of God would want to do or showed ANY evidence of doing to anyone else. All that stuff about Souls being implanted in humans that are pregnant is another juxtaposition of the way the Kingdom of God/Heaven was compared by Jesus to be like seed planters. However they don’t do that on spacecrafts. Earth is their working laboratory. They have no use for humans on board their “clouds of light” (cloaked craft) and “heaven” as the dwelling environment for Members of the Kingdom of God (angels, archangels, Older Members (Fathers (Father and Jesus)). It’s very telling that next to zero people are willing to actually understand what Ti and Do taught. They are much happier and secure to avoid them like the plague or make general or misleading statements so people can have an out from paying any attention to them. However it’s all in the Kingdom of God/Heaven’s plan to allow us all to CHOOSE. I know Ti and Do were considered New Age but that is a Luciferian space alien fallen angel plot to tie them to what is todays anti Kingdom of God/Heaven agenda as was also done with the stimulation of so called suicides of jim jones group and solar temple which were wrought with murder and manipulation and children and human behaviors unlike Ti and Do’s behavior and ways that were the complete opposite in hundreds of ways?

This video actually is a good overview of a great deal of the kinds of things the space aliens have been engaged. What Christians don’t often have a clue about is that just like the New Agers have largely been comondeered into the space alien camp whether they know it or not, so have all religionists and agnostics atheists and actually all of us to degrees according to our behavior, ways, beliefs and non-beliefs that are not directly related to Next Level behaviors and ways and truth about Their physical non-spiritual realities.

Now I can understand how the maker of this video you referenced lumps Ti and Do into the same space alien mix. To the uninformed eye they look similar. Both bodies of information speak of living physical beings from outer space, both speak of their having physical spacecrafts for transportation and both have a program that involves genetic development of the human species (except with the space aliens the Kingdom of God/Heaven would not consider “development” accept as it develops the illusion that they are “god” simply because the originators of the space alien agenda, the “fallen angels” had very elementary jobs for the Kingdom of God/Heaven which is what qualified them as the Genesis chapter 6 “sons of god”. (Being a “son” simply means they had grown to some degree of service to the Kingdom of God/Heaven. A watcher task is an elementary task for the Kingdom of God/Heaven given to some who are coming up to test their resolve and to see if they can be trusted before assigning them a Kingdom of God/Heaven “incorruptible body”. Thus this latest earth civilization starting with Adam and Eve and the presence of the “luciferian fallen angel space aliens” was subjecting some of those to the test of dealing with the influnence from the Luciferians to see if they too would fall as the Luciferians and the third of that classroom body did. Additionally, the fact that a Kingdom of God/Heaven physical body that Ti and Do described is a white body with an ever so slightly larger cranium but without big bug like eyes nor claw hands nor grotesque or insect like appendages. Humans were created in Their image – that’ s primarily that they look the same – humanoid that jesus demonstrated after the tomb and were the way the beings outside the tomb looked and when Jesus ascended into that cloaked (clouded) spacecraft. They were mistaken for humans just like in the Lot experience as well. The Luciferian space alien fallen angels know how the Kingdom of God/Heaven grows the garden so they set up facsimile events and teachings that they actually believe themselves as they had the Mind they had once received from their “heavenly Father” removed from their consciousness because of their fall and subsequent war against the Kingdom of God/Heaven.