Posts Tagged ‘hell’

Evil Spirits = discarnates = Influences on Us and how to abort their influence on us

April 15, 2014

I was given the example of how Jesus got rid of evil spirits thus indicating we could do the same.  Here is my response to what Ti and Do taught in this regard:

It is absolutely possible to inhibit the discarnate influences. People do it all the time unknowingly when they refuse to entertain certain thoughts. It doesn’t matter the origin of the thoughts whether they are actually a discarnate spirit on the spot or a residual programming we were exposed to from a movie or some other source. The method to get rid of them was described by Ti and Do as putting up a “blank card” in one’s brain. I believe that came from the idea of “cue cards” so a blank one is what you are giving that influences voice. You can also just order it away from you which Ti compared to swatting a mosquito. Ti and Do also said to put a “label” on an influence. Jesus did this by saying, “get behind me Satan (adversary)”. And these weren’t the only ways. It’s up to you to find what works. You won’t be able to negotiate with them. They are more or less just programs that can’t change any longer so are just parrots now. I don’t know if some are different in that regard. However, swatting them away doesn’t mean they won’t continue to come back. Some will come back every so often and with a different tactic. Others will always be around. Ti and Do said that we are not responsible for what attacks us (enters our brain) but we are responsible for how long we allow it to remain in our brain and even entertaining it’s influence. So it is up to us to build the “amour” and we can build it so strong that we can as Ti said, “smell” an influence coming and cut it off before even one word of their argument registers in the brain. Getting to that point might take some time and effort as it’s really what Ti called “building a muscle” and in so doing raising our vibration that will take us out of the firing line of certain influences that only vibrate on certain things and with certain strength, though you will then run into stronger influences and especially if you are bucking the status quo and especially if you are a believer in Ti and Do who buck all the human influences.

If humans were taught these techniques we might not have as many crimes that seem to have been uncharacteristic of the person committing the crime – like the knife attacking student or the shooting of the Amish girl’s or the many other seemingly senseless violent acts. People think their thoughts are all theirs and to suggest they were acting out a discarnate’s influence over them, for many is like making an excuse for one’s bad actions. But in truth the responsibility is not being taken away from the human being who is subject of the attack. They still need to learn to recognize the “evil thoughts” and not entertain them which tends to justify them that they then can be stimulated to act out suddenly. But many humans hate to think of themselves as computers that are providing a time share to discarnates as they want to take credit for what they have become that they like. And it’s not that they still don’t take credit for what they have become, because even though the discarnates are a large part of what each of us becomes, it was our choice what to accept and what to reject in our life.

Ti and Do said, all we really are is the “decider” of what to make ours and what not to make ours in thoughts, behaviors and ways.

The document Ti wrote named the “Power of Goodness” speaks to each of us being the “central sun in our own solar system”.  This document is included in the link below:

https://sawyerhg.wordpress.com/2014/04/15/the-power-of-goodness-meditations-and-affirmations-ti-and-do-gave-their-students-to-prepare-for-service/

Revelation 13-Daniel 7-Beast/Nephilim=Forth Kingdom=U.S.-Little Horn=NWO Dragon=space aliens

March 15, 2014

Below is a comment I made on a Christian youtube channel (where I go by 3spm) where we have ongoing discussion of the NWO, and the Beast, Nephilim, etc. I often get help with the direction of my own study on these subjects by what others have examined and surfaced in scriptures. I feel this is the primary way the Next Level, Ti and Do and Crew help those that are asking to understand all these things are helped. We must learn to follow the links. We have to dig and interface with others as the Next Level is not just working with those who believe in Ti and Do and remember that as Jesus said, that not everyone who says, “Lord, Lord…” (this or that) is considered by the Next Level to be approaching or in their allegiance. We have to continuously try to put into action what we are given to change about our behavior and ways to stay connected though when we fail from what we know are our goals (thus sin) if we let that become an excuse to not pick up and seek Their help for a new effort to approach behavior and ways that challenge us then we will be gradually disconnecting from whatever connection we have until the entire subject seems preposterous and we have interest in it any longer. That too can change and that’s largely what we all are being put to with increased mental and physical stresses by the activities of the Next Level on the environment and the human responses to their close physical presence, that stimulates all to “become exactly what we have each become” – in other words, if we have become someone who in our beliefs as shown by the content of our thinking and of course expressions in word and deed who judges others or is willing to sacrifice others to their or their governments will or is able to justify manipulations of others or perform abuses of others or entertains thoughts of vengeance and anger, then at this time we begin to be unable to restrain ourselves from acting out those negative to life behavior and ways so there is an increase in events that show that disharmony. And this also applies to the other extremes to where we can put ourselves into a la la land of everything is wonderful and all we need to do is stay in that frame of mind and the problems will go away and if everyone could do that we would all live in peace, etc. That’s the other side of not taking advantage of the “medicine” being presented to us that can help us “grow” in terms relative to what the Next Level considers growth which is not seeking self awareness, enlightenment as that has been taught to many of us, but awareness of what is outside of SELF and enlightenment in the realities in which we exist that provide challenges that spur us on to  SEEK answers by asking the highest beings we can reach in our private moments who are very existent and are accessed by projecting our asking as far out into the heavens as we can reach, to learn how we can each serve Their agenda for our growth. Of course for those who recognize Ti and Do as the last incarnate Older Members then just use those names in your asking (prayers).

So with that introduction here is my latest making sense of prophesies in regards to the Beast, the Nephilim, the fallen angel space aliens and the New World order which I believe is Daniel’s and Revelations “little horn” – organized mechanism to run the affairs of the humans on Earth that is a combination of direction from the space aliens and attempting to combat the space aliens and of course the global changes that are becoming very apparent with the well coordinated displays from the literal “heaven’s” in terms of comets, asteroids, meteor’s  anomalies galore that hardly make it to the news or stay in the news very long but that there are always evident links to recognizing.

Here’s the comment:

I neglected to examine Dan 7 recently so thank you for the reference. The United States is clearly that “forth kingdom” and I will shortly be analyzing every word of both Rev 13 and Dan 7 to form a more comprehensive analysis to prove that. Remember Jesus said the kingdom of God would be taken away from the middle east and Jerusalem would be left desolate and the Israel people WILL NOT SEE him upon He, His Father and student’s (saints) return. I agree with Daisy in that the Vatican is certainly a huge part of the Antichrist, but remember there was to be a New Jerusalem just like Jesus would have a new name and would have a white as snow/lambs wool head and hair and said he would give us his Father’s name also as his Father would be with him on the throne until he is passed the “throne” task to actually bring the student body through their individual birth canal (born of (holy) spirit/Holy Mind). Also the U.S. is what became the biggest melting pot – which was because the “crew” – the saints before they had come incarnate with Jesus and his Father had “gathered the elect from the four winds”. No other empire satisfies this and the little horn is the NWO that comes out of the forth kingdom/empire – beast (united nations and NATO and the various G configurations). They are called the beast because they are all under the spell and thus direction of the dragon, the serpent (hisser, mightily stalker and manipulator with lies and deceits and mis-dis-information to cause mountainous CONFUSION (Babylon), the current mental state of most in the world in degrees, the devil, Satan as the adversary of the Father and Son, the representation of the fallen angel Luciferian space aliens. They control the beasts, all of them as they have bred humans as Nephilim – giants NOT in physical stature, that’s a distraction, but in their motivation to use any means to obtain power over the human race using great cunning and in league consciously or semi-consciously or unconsciously with the space aliens who are also Nephilim as descendants of the original 200 who are called the “watchers” by Enoch and spoken of in Gen 6 by Moses. The fallen angels and physical hybridized offspring were not wiped out by the Noah flood otherwise there would be none to be allowed to exit their underground prison cells spoken of as the bottomless pit where they were shut up for thousands of years. While shut up the discarnate fallen angels and spirits of the Nephilim were still active all over the world while the hybridization programs continued in the underground/undersea base operations where they had spacecrafts, etc. and may be related to the “inner earth” accounts of Admiral Byrd that is linked with Hitler and the Antarctica “paradise” found and where many Nazi’s fled after the war was seen as lost, though only made it to Argentina – though no doubt went in all directions – Russia, U.S. – scientists, etc. Most of these are all Nephilim descendants playing out the will of the fallen angels who wanted to spur humans into building technologies to provide them with they needed hybrid physical bodies to inhabit and control and to build spacecrafts that could take them off the planet before the next recycling (heat related recycling)  and the need for energy systems (nukes) to power their spacecrafts while in space (though the Kingdom of God/Heaven what is actually physical beings that are Above Human so are not mammalian who have been depicted erroneously as bug headed looking grays, but who are actually humanoid looking with a slightly larger head and slightly larger eyes but all have a very pleasing, gentle quality that Ti and Do spoke about and had a resident artist airbrush that is on my most current videos on YouTube. They never manipulate or lie or deceive nor abuse humans or space aliens and they have no interest in anything human, not dna, not nuke energy, not elements like gold, silver that all have their properties that can be used in practical fashions. The entire planet is theirs so they don’t need to exploit humans to get access to anything on/in the planet. And they don’t die so have no need for humans. They simply provide humans the opportunity to join their ranks as they don’t reproduce as humans either. They are not mammals so sexuality is a primitive abhor-ant activity because of the way the Luciferian space aliens and their offspring have got humans addicted to getting rid of their “force” and thinking they are creating life because of. Lot’s more to all this.

Thought origins, discarnate influences, dead humans, spirits, satans/Luciferians

March 3, 2014

According to Ti and Do there are only two sources of thoughts (aka Mind, aka Spirit) 1) human to include what has been programmed by the Luciferians via discarnates who seek to interface with us to time share our brain/body. That’s actually the norm in the human kingdom and is a mix mash of thoughts that had their origin from and became distorted from 2) The Next Level Older Members Thoughts/Mind/Spirit.

Ti and Do said that “we are not responsible for the thoughts that occur to us but we are responsible for the thoughts we allow to continue in our consciousness” which then become amplified and end up defining us to become our “beliefs” acted out or not in thought, word and deed.

Now the human gnome brings a new baby into the world with a preprogrammed set of thoughts, behaviors and ways according to what all their ancestors contributed to them.

The only way I’m aware that a human can identify the source of a thought to someone else, is if they have learned how someone else thought. For instance we hear a thought or words and we think, “wow that sounds like my dad – he used to say that” and that can happen and even potentially be accurate whether he is deceased or not if he has influenced someone else to say that or should it be something that is common to many to have said.

To think we recognize someone specific, by a thought we have, who we never had a personal eye to eye, face to face relationship with is not trustworthy. People die all the time that when they die think they represent someone else, they have become an expert on someone else’s life, quoting them over and over, teaching other about them so that they so embraced whatever body of information they had access to and understood to degrees that when they influence us by being in our close proximity, even inhabiting our same space, we can believe that person they feel they are representing to us, is present. Think of how many people died thinking they were other’s link to God, intercessor to Jesus, teacher of the bible, expert on spirituality or any field.

It seems that discarnate Souls – humans who receive a soul deposit from the Next Level and then are in a Next Level classroom, led by an Older Member who is incarnate and then drop out and usually go against that Older Member’s teachings to justify their dropping out and to be able to resume their human life, have acquired more power to influence living humans. These then become “satans” (advasaries) to anyone who has the potential to gravitate to growing closer to membership in the Next Level. Depending on how much about the Next Level they understood when they died, determines what advantage they have over humans that only had whatever was recorded about the Next Level from their ancestral branch of the human tree.

For those that do want to grow closer to their Older Members from the Next Level, whether still incarnate or not, the Next Level crew will regulate how much one of these “satans” can influence those they have an eye on, though the final choice always remains with each individual. We can choose not to look to the Next Level Older Members and over time of lack of use will even lose whatever Next Level Mind we once had. Pretty soon it seems an impossibility that there is a Next Level, or some sort of interpretation that justifies to them going against what they once knew about them. At that point they have cast judgement on themselves and unless the Next Level wants to save their soul to be brought back as a new Luciferian crop, to fertilize, provide a type of sparring partner to an upcoming student, they will be recycled in what was referred to in Revelations prophecy as the “lake of fire” and the “second death”, the death of the soul itself.

Now if we have come to know what Ti and Do said from reading and/or listening to tapes, if we hear a thought that “sounds like something they might say”, it may be their presence you are feeling but it’s still not trustworthy and not a trick to get you to pay attention to what they say down the road as you get accustomed to that vibration.

In other words, we can’t trust any thoughts. Even the satans will quote scripture and can try to impress us by telling the future and then seeing to it that it takes place to impress you.

This is why Jesus said,

Mat 18:19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

And this is also part of what Ti and Do were representing by both coming incarnate as the Two Witnesses. They always demonstrated everything they taught. And they had a system of checks and balances to confirm to one another what they felt like they were receiving because they knew how they too could be knocked off track.

So the only thing we can trust is what Ti and Do said, which will “sound like” what was written about what Jesus said and did, which will “sound like” what Moses wrote as an introduction to our graduation from the Human Kingdom.

I have asked to be of service to Do, so his telling me that I was “tredding water” was in response to what I wanted, which is Ti and Do’s way. I’d say it’s rare that they will come to someone, except as a first time confirmation that they are hearing us, to come to us in a dream to pat us on the back. It may be even more rare if it happens at all that they will come to us in a dream with new information they didn’t provide while incarnate. That happened to some degree with John in the book of revelations but that was also after the 2nd of three trimesters in the program so they were preparing for the next step.

The preparation for our next step is to take to heart all Ti and Do taught.

Ingredients of a Deposit-Becoming a New Creature By Lvvody w/Sawyer intro

December 20, 2013

Before Lvvody’s paper, I, sawyer just wanted to explain that this Next Level graduate who incarnated into a female human vehicle, was on one of the “exit video’s” and was mostly in tears. Some thought her tears were suspect of her not being fully in favor of what they were about to do in laying down those physical human containers they had incarnated into and overcome the human ways of. I knew otherwise having known her from the same meeting I attended and have a similar story to tell as do most all of those who joined with Ti and Do then and in 1994. None of these were naïve individuals or easily led or looking for a ride on a UFO or even on a religio-spiritual self elevating martyrdom trip, though I have to admit my vehicle did have that weakness of wanting to be special in that way – the hero on the cross, so to speak as I gathered from being brought up by those Catholic ideas and Jesus movies in the 1950’s – 1960’s I saw over and over again.

I too wanted to be a priest when 13 but couldn’t imagine why and knew early on that was not any direction I wanted anything to do with. I too felt pulled to Oregon after being deported from British Columbia where my girlfriend and I tried to build a homestead that previous winter having while still on Long Island studying British Columbia for a land purchase and studying log cabin building and hunting for food the year before to the dismay of our Catholic and Jewish parents.

At 19 years old, having been drawn to Canada, where I used to hitchhike to from NYC I became attracted to Vancouver so when I hooked up with my first serious girlfriend, lacking money for a motorcycle decided to hitchhike to Canada then to Vancouver then to Mexico and back the same way over a summer, that in so doing convinced us to try to move to British Columbia after getting jobs and an apartment and saving money over the next 9 months.

I was born in NYC and raised on Long Island and was driven to leave after I flunked out of my first year in college in Beckley, West Virginia, amid hating the Vietnam war knowing that I would go to Canada before being drafted. During that college year as out of my parents control I grew my hair and beard and because of was often threatened by southern red necks, while drugging as much as possible (but felt to stay clear of heroin and downers and speed, but used acid and mescaline, pot and hashish galore) and putting nude women pictures all over my walls around my bunk while having zero interest in studying anything. Yet years later when I used to hitchhike through very dangerous areas of Connecticut to go to Rhode Island to party with my high school buddies at their apartment where they lived when they weren’t on their Navy station on the U.S. Nimitz docked at Newport, RI, they’d all be drinking and drugging while for bizarre reasons related to some paranormal experiences with my psychic girlfriend I had quit by then, I’d be studying what Jesus said but never could figure out what he was talking about. I never sought to find out what he was talking about until after I met up with Ti and Do and after the meeting told all my friends throughout Newport, Oregon, the hippies I’d circulated with and my musical band mates that “I felt like I sat in front of the equivalent of Jesus”. Years before meeting with Ti and Do I’d hung out and by chance, not desire, lived with Jesus freaks in Washington state. I had been arrested in Canada, probably turned in as it was clear I was a New Yorker living there illegally and working as much as I could find, probably thought to be a draft dodger as were a number of my friends there. So my girlfriend was allowed to gather our belongings from our very remote no facility mountain cabin where we had lived for the very harsh winter and she met me at the U.S. border. The old 1949 GMC pickup we bought in Canada for $350.00 broke down in Yakima, WA and a Jesus freak in town offered us a place to stay and while there with his family and friends I’d debate with Christians what I saw as major flaws in the gospel ideas that seemed hypocritical. They still liked us and we them as we’d attend all their regular services where I mostly played drums and harmonica. Over two weeks time they fixed my truck without charge and we had $50, just enough to get to the Oregon coast where I thought I could get some fishing work, having come from a family of commercial fishers on Long Island so I imagined I could do that having no formal education or skillset. (Before that I worked as a handyman, a warehouse worker, in factories, sold pot, as a hospital janitor, short order cook, pharmacy delivery driver, newspaper sorter, etc.).

So that’s a little snapshot of my life from high school to when I lived on the Oregon Coast dancing with the Sufi’s, attending meditations, meditating on Sri Chin Moy pictures, transcendental meditation examination, study of yogananda the bhagvad gita all of which and more didn’t appeal to me while most of my friends were diving in. My girlfriend was always reporting seeing crazy stuff – spirits and balls of light in the meditations that I stopped attending as I was bored and would only fall asleep anyway so I’d hang out with folk outside. I remember thinking I wanted to become “enlightened” like Yogananda but I guess I didn’t know how to meditate right as I could never meditate on a guru’s picture or blank my mind.

(However with the few meditations Ti and Do taught, some 10 years into being in the group I did learn to not fall asleep and to blank my mind which was a technique that comes from practice of putting up a blank card against any thoughts we don’t want to have in our heads and also from learning how to listen without having any other conversations in our heads, something that Ti and Do taught us to do as well. But with Ti and Do we never meditated on them or pictures of them or anyone else. And the meditations were given and for a short time, maybe three months it was part of the program but then became optional. Curiously one who listens to Ti and Do’s audio meeting tapes can easily be bored by their often mundane content, yet each meeting was an exercise in controlling our own minds to which their was never any test of, but because of how much someone strengthened their ability to focus and on what to focus some were right with the Ti and Do lesson steps while others fell behind and eventually left and didn’t have the same understanding of things Ti and Do spoke about because they hadn’t learned to or wanted to learn to listen well enough. I saw examples of this with x-members I visited with after I left who had a completely different understanding of the ramifications to our air and then water fast in the near Phoenix desert in around 1992 that Do ended after two weeks. I had thought we were mentally willing to exit our physical bodies then but this x-classmate didn’t think that at all. As it turned out, what I had understood was how Do was prepared to think. He felt instructions to let Ti know we were willing to do whatever it took to be ready for exit which would include picking us up or leaving our bodies as a result of the fast).

Back to my little story:

We were not happy wherever we were. We’d constantly drive or hitchhike down to California looking for a new place to live and we’d visit with friends in Berkley and San Diego. One friend was a lawyer living in Berkley heights who had a bustling drug business, but I was still very straight then so it didn’t attract me. We’d drop in on the Fillmore West as we were dead heads before they were called dead heads, so we ended up sleeping in the Ken Kesey warehouse and on the roof of the free clinic in Bezerkly. Finally in 1974 after my girlfriend had a brief affair that devastated me and I recovered and then he dumped her and I took her back, we decided to settle down and were part of a startup little commune with two other couples on a couple acres of land in Waldport, OR. I began to build a house – a teepee shape of my own haphazard design. I fell the trees that were pole size, stripped the bark and treated with creosote then gathered building materials mostly from donations and got about half way with it, while also having a nice big garden and I decided I wanted to go back to NY to visit having been gone for 5 years by then. So we hitchhiked there and a relative bought us bus tickets for the return and I visited with both our families. A month later I came out of an all nighter type of band practice party at the guitarist’s ocean view apartment and saw the same poster, Lvvody speaks about and knew I had to attend that meeting and it had nothing to do with seeing the UFO on the poster. I remember saying to my girlfriend, I want to see what these two people who claim to be from outer space will look like. I didn’t believe it was possible or impossible. And I was intrigued that the poster said that some were “giving their all to this endeavor” having to do with going to this evolutionary level above human.

At the meeting by the time Do stopped talking, that was perhaps 30 minutes, and the room had seemed to fill up with a haze that seemed to be prevalent around the stage and these Two, that I only later thought about and wondered about when I saw it again at the next meeting I attended where they spoke in Colorado maybe a month later, I knew I wanted to join and so did my girlfriend and we knew it meant our break up, but perhaps because of her affair, though I had attached to her as much as anyone one could, though not officially married I didn’t have a second thought and it had nothing to do with what she wanted to do.

And so we let our desires be known to some who were followers from the meetings they had given in Los Angeles and San Francisco months before and they gave us a phone number to call and said to put our lives in order knowing that we needed to more or less leave all behind but to keep camping equipment as they lived on the road and once again we had $50.00 to our name even after selling my drums and stuff and giving away the then broken down truck.

But before we left town, my girl fiends sister had become very upset at what her sister said we were going to do and called her dad in NY and he and her uncle and grandmother flew out the next day and met with us and tried to talk us out of it but our minds were made up. I’m sorry to say, we probably didn’t handle that well with the younger sister who had come out to Oregon to be with us having just turned 18 and she for the last year was living with a guy at a different location from us so seemed somewhat independent of us. Yet of course she wasn’t and so not able to dissuade her sister went to the police to report that our two best friends who also were going to join were “abandoning their two children”. Actually they were not the guy’s children and they were very young, I think like a 1-2 yr old boy and a 5 yr old girl. The mother who was probably in her early 20’s had contacted their real dad who lived near Portland, so about a hour away from Newport and he was going to take the kids so it wasn’t an illegal abandonment (and as it turned out she, the mother only stayed in the group for maybe 6 months). But the police showed up at this couples apartment while me and my girlfriend were leaving and I was asked by the police about the report of abandoning of children to which I denied there was any such thing happening and they seemed satisfied with that which infuriated my girlfriends sister and she threatened to kill herself.

At that point we knew we needed to get out of town fast so we called the number and were told to meet at a park in Eugene, OR a hour away and like Lvvody reports it was a confusing scene with people milling all around and then there was a table with two people sitting at it in the middle of an open area so we approached and two followers greeted us and after a few questions told us to meet them ASAP in the Colorado National Monument near Fruita, CO., which we with 4 of our friends drove to and met up with Bo and Peep to begin what for me would be 19 years a dedicated student and my girlfriend 12 years before she left in 1987, a year after she and I were sent by Ti and Do together to visit both our families, over a weekend having only written once when we left as was recommended, though we also were sent for a visit in 1985 before Ti left her vehicle. My girlfriends sister didn’t try to kill herself and I apologized to her after I left the group and got in touch with her. I didn’t apologize for joining. What I was sorry about was that she suffered because of our choices. She and her sister as of a few years ago weren’t really on talking terms and she has had no interest in talking with me further.

Anyway, I don’t know what Lvvody was exactly feeling while being recorded but one might notice that Do didn’t try to hide that and I’m sure it crossed his mind that some would see that and come up with their own conclusions and would be wrong but he felt like it still needed to be included as one of the “exit videos” so those seeing it could believe what they wanted to believe, the same reason they allow the Luciferian space aliens to keep on presenting their ideas and agenda’s to humans, which is where this entire environmental push to “save the planet and mankind” is coming from, along with the space race and the nuke energy push for weapons and power supplies.

But if I were to guess at what Lvvody might have been feeling it would be “love” and a hope that some watching what they were about to do, could recognize what she knew was and is the “greatest story ever told”, in the arrival of the Two Older Members, the Older One having given the name Jehovah (I Am or Existing One), then Father from/in the literal Heavens/sky/outer space, then Ti with the One who was Adam, Enoch, Moses, Elijah, Jesus and then Do as The Representatives from the Kingdom of physical Evolutionarly Above Human Beings who literally were part of the detailed design and development team of the Earth and the entire Universe, with their student litter, the true Saints being “born of spirit/soul” before our eyes.

So take a look at what she wrote and judge for yourself but I caution you against hasty decisions as we are all held accountable to the Kingdom of God/Heaven according to what we are provided and what we do with what we are provided. She wrote:

Ingredients of a Deposit — Becoming a New Creature By Lvvody

As the world becomes more aware of our presence and the information we are leaving behind, we know we have to anticipate being confronted with the typical “anti-cult” accusations and condemnations that will be made about us – particularly those aimed at our Teachers, Ti and Do.  The majority of the media (whose degree of commentary and biased judgment has gotten completely corrupted and out of control), plus the righteous religious, the government/law-enforcement agencies, and cult-awareness groups, will most likely quickly jump to defend the “accepted (Luciferian) norm” by trying to convince the masses to believe that the students of Ti and Do must be “weak-minded” individuals who had nothing going for them in this world, or that they were duped or brainwashed by two mesmerizing, charismatic cult leaders.  For, surely, no one in their right mind would willingly join a “cult” in the first place, let alone stay in one for over twenty years – throwing away the precious opportunity for participating in family, career, and all the other “normal” pursuits in the human kingdom.

     Nothing could be further from the truth.  I know, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that Ti and Do are two Older Members, two Representatives from the Next Level – the Evolutionary Kingdom Level Above Human, the Kingdom of God.  I know that all the ways and behavior, all the procedures and instructions, and all the knowledge and wisdom taught to us by Ti and Do are not available or taught anywhere else on the planet.  It is clearly beyond human.  I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that I have had a previous relationship with them before – that I (the soul that has taken over and now occupies this human body I am wearing) have had previous nurturing by Ti and Do during prior visitations to this “garden,” including the Next Level’s presence in this civilization approximately 2000 years ago (just two days ago Next Level time).

     How do I know this?  It’s not only because Ti and Do have told me so.  It’s also because of proof from personal experience.  I recognize this information.  It’s as though I was already familiar with it.  For example, part of Ti and Do’s task during this mission was to restore the truth of how a soul may literally make the transition from the human kingdom into the true Heavenly Kingdom, after having overcome humanness – and how this metamorphic process can only be done under the direct supervision of Representatives of the Kingdom of Heaven and only while these Reps or Teachers are incarnate in a human “vehicle” or body.  They alone possess the hidden knowledge of “how Members of the Next Level are born,” and that it requires breaking all ties with the human kingdom, and shedding all human-mammalian behavior and thinking.

     This is the same formula taught by the Representative who was here approximately 2000 years ago, the one religions refer to as Jesus.  He told His disciples to go and preach, saying, “The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand.”  “I am the way and the truth and the life.  No one comes to the Father except by me.”  What this meant was, “I’m here.  I am the one who was sent by my Father to offer you the way out of the human kingdom.  Only I have the formula of how to get to heaven – how you have to leave everything behind, including your own life in this world, and come and follow me and be my disciple.”  He made it very clear that separating from the world and having a “personal relationship” with Him, while He was incarnate in a human body, was a requirement and the only way to prepare for entering the next Kingdom. “My sheep know my voice and they follow me.”

     Before His departure, He knew that His disciples hadn’t overcome the world sufficiently to go with Him, so He told them that He would come back for them again at the end of the Age.  That time is now.  It is the end of the Age.  The same mind, the same knowledge of the Next Level that was present 2000 years ago is here again, as was promised – in the Two Older Members of the Next Level who were sent – Ti and Do. And many of those students/disciples who were present with the Representative 2000 years ago are back now, with Ti and Do, to pick up where they left off during their last mission to this civilization.           How does this Recognition work?  Where does it come from?  In Do’s most recent written statements, Undercover Jesus Surfaces Before Departure and ’95 Statement by an ET Presently Incarnate, he goes into a lot of detail describing deposits.  What is a deposit?  It is potentially the “gift” of life into the real physical Evolutionary Level Above Human.  A deposit can be described as an “implant,” or a “chip,” or a tiny fragment or “seed” of Next Level mind that is deposited into a human plant by members of the Next Level.  The nature of any deposit – the “program” it contains – will vary depending on who the recipient is.

     A first-time deposit contains the beginning of a “soul” – which is the new “container” or receptacle for Next Level mind, and is the beginning of a new creature.   In other words, if the Next Level determines that an individual has a potential for goodness and deserves the opportunity to be given a chance to be nourished by them, and if they choose to offer it the choice to become a future member of the Next Evolutionary Level, they make a “deposit” that contains a soul with a very small amount of Next Level information – it’s like a tiny Next Level fetus.  The program in that deposit contains a “chip” of recognition of a Rep who is presently incarnate, and the capacity to believe that what that Rep or Teacher says is true.  If that new soul chooses to believe that Rep and to bond to him, is thirsty, and exerts all his effort to take in the mind that is being offered to him, then at the end of that visitation, that soul will be “saved” or “put on ice” for a future time, when it can be brought back into a garden such as Earth when a Rep will be incarnate again, and continue where it left off in its previous time of growth or nourishment until it is sufficiently weaned or separated from the human kingdom.

     When a soul is a “returnee,” that is, it is brought back (to continue in its overcoming and nurturing that it had begun previously) at a time when Reps will be present again, the program in the deposit it receives will be more advanced.  The deposit will be a match for the degree of advancement of that soul as well as a match for the handicaps of the particular human vehicle (body) it will be occupying – for these handicaps offer it the opportunity for the additional lessons it needs.  This deposit would most likely contain: *    a “chip” of recognition of the Reps of the Level Above Human that      would be sent, *    the capability to recognize the information regarding the      existence of the true Kingdom of God, *    a fragment of Next Level mind that finds its recipient wanting to      break ties with the world and seek out the Teachers or Representatives      that are presently incarnate, *    the wisdom to discern what isn’t true as the recipient is lead      through experiences prior to connecting with the Rep, *    the early stages of loss of respect for the world and its systems      – family, government, religion, money, etc., *    a feeling like, “I don’t fit here,” “I hate this corrupt world,”      or “I just want to go home to God.”

[Jesus was referring to the deposit when He said,  “No one comes to Me unless the Father Who sent Me attracts and draws him and gives him the desire to come to Me, and I will raise him up at the last day.”  John 6:44.]

     If  “I” – the identity – am the soul – containing Next Level mind, then this borrowed human body I am wearing is not me.  It was “tagged” with a deposit by Members of the Next Level and set aside for my use for this task, and “I” probably had a very off-and-on relationship with the body, according to the instructions given to me and my invisible Next Level helpers – at a briefing aboard a spacecraft prior to coming into this atmosphere.  Most of the soul (containing Next Level mind), was outside the vehicle, and the deposit wasn’t really activated until the time-capsule program was set in motion – to make contact with the two incarnate Representatives from the Kingdom of Heaven, Ti and Do.

     Humans, for the most part, identify as being the body they are wearing.  Most of their entire life is preoccupied with the physical body – because they assume that is who they are (out of ignorance – due to the distorted truths and misinformation imposed on them by society – unknowingly under the guidance of the “Luciferian” space aliens).  They dwell on the appearance of the body, its physical condition, its consuming, its relationships, its ties and responsibilities to others, and many get their greatest satisfaction from the end results of reproduction.  But we are not the body we are wearing.  It is simply a plant, a “container” for our spirit (or mind).  If you think of the body as the hardware, the spirit is like the software.  The spirit in the human plant is made up of a combination of: a) the genetic emanations of the vehicle, resulting from the many experiences of that genetic strain; b) the summation of its experiences and effects from its environment during the present lifetime; c) and the influence of discarnates (out of body spirits) that like to time-share the use of our body with us.  Most humans in this civilization are simply a plant containing a spirit that really has no “life” in it, for without any Next Level mind there is no life information.  Only a “soul” contains pure Next Level mind – knowledge of the true Kingdom of God and the potential of having a future, and no human has a “soul” which contains life unless it has been deposited in them by Members of the Next Level.  Only the Next Level can deposit “souls” in the human kingdom, and this only occurs during the “seasons” that the Next Level comes in close – around the time of their visitations.

     Thus, when the Next Level picks the human bodies (containing spirits) that we (Ti, Do, and crew) must enter into as we begin this task of “incarnating,” the body that we will be borrowing (and eventually taking over) has in a sense a mind of its own – made up of all the desires and awarenesses of its genetic background.  It has its own likes and dislikes, its desires to indulge in addictions and pleasures, lots of misinformation concepts, strong ties and responsibilities to other human plants it’s related to, and even seemingly positive desires, like wanting to be a good humanitarian or “be a good human.”  When the Next Level “tags” a human vehicle for a returning soul to use – which means the deposit is “implanted” – then confusion and conflict set in between the desires of the vehicle (and the spirits that associate with it) and the desires of the Next Level mind contained in the deposit, that says (mostly in the subconscious), “It’s time to sever all those ties, it’s time to stop indulging in that human-mammalian behavior, wake up, there’s a task you have to do, the truth is simple, you’ve got to find your teachers”!

     To illustrate how real this deposit is, I’d like to briefly illustrate how it worked for me.  The vehicle that I was about to take over began showing obvious symptoms of having a “deposit” in the early to mid-70’s.  First it was mainly feeling a “presence” and having strong thoughts of wondering, “What am I supposed to do?  What do you want me to do”? while feeling very close to and wanting to talk to God in my silence.  Usually, without warning, the vehicle would suddenly have thoughts like, “I’m not one of these. Who are these primitive people”?  For a few years it went through wanting to become a nun (assuming religion was where the truth should be found), to later giving up traditional religion and searching out other religions and philosophies – but nothing seemed right.  The vehicle hitch-hiked through other nations to explore other cultures, and across the U.S., losing interest in the traditional medical career and investigating alternative health care, new-age, and on and on.  Still wondering, “What on Earth am I doing here”? and begging God to “Please show me, what am I supposed to do”?  Sometimes the vehicle’s impulses were very strong in regard to all the typical indulgences of the 70’s, and at times another voice would speak up and it would seem so clear that celibacy was the right thing, drugs had to go, and the idea of marriage and kids seemed totally out of the question.  There was an increasing sense of urgency to leave the East coast and get to Oregon. Every deposit has a different program, but looking back, I can see clearly how this vehicle was so carefully led through a series of experiences that eventually led it to show up at a meeting by the Two in Waldport, Oregon on September 14, 1975.

     The day before the Waldport meeting was when I had my first contact with anything connected to Ti and Do.  A friend and I thought we were going to a musical event a few hours away in Eugene, but it was canceled.  Instead we ended up walking around town and went into a bookstore.  That moment changed my life.  I was looking at a poster announcing a public meeting.  It was titled “UFO’s,” which hadn’t really meant that much to me previously.  But then I read on: “Two individuals say they are about to leave the human level and literally (physically) enter the next evolutionary level.  Followers of ‘The Two’ will discuss how the transition from the human level to the Next Level is accomplished and when this may be done.”  Wow!  It felt like a bolt of electricity went right through me.  An alarm went off in my head – like a sudden unconscious recognition of something very familiar, and it was already seeming clear that I’d found what I was looking for.  It was as though that combination of words used on the poster was a key that unlocked something inside me.  When that mind deposit is activated, the little program in there that is identifying as “you” – that was started some time ago – starts identifying as “you” again – because it is you.  We drove toward Waldport that night.

     A statement written by Ti and Do was passed out to everyone as we arrived at the meeting in Waldport.  As I read it, and as I listened to Ti and Do speak, I (the deposit – containing my soul made up of Next Level mind) immediately recognized the information and my Teachers.  Something inside me knew, “This is it!  This is what I’m here for.  The truth is simple.”  The Two had it all summed up on one typed page – the whole truth.  I couldn’t believe it.  All the pieces of the puzzle fit together.  A part of that one page statement read:                …a human who seeks only to become a member of his      next evolutionary kingdom may become a member of that      kingdom if he completely overcomes all the aspects and      influences of the human level providing he has found favor      with a member of that next level who will direct him through      his metamorphosis…the human can complete this changeover      only before his death as a human…                …There are two individuals here now who have also      come from that kingdom, incarnate as humans, awakened…They      are sent from the same kingdom by the “Father” to bear the      same truth that was Jesus’…restore its accurate      meaning…Those who believe this process and do it will be      “lifted up” individually and “saved” from death –      literally…        There was quite a crowd at a follow-up meeting in Eugene a day or two later, and amidst an atmosphere of chaos, fear, and confusion – I looked up to the heavens and said to whoever was guiding and watching over me – “I’m incapable of judging this – I’m in your hands – Please show me what to do – If this is right, you make it happen.”  Within a few minutes, a couple of followers of the Two motioned to me to come over to them and asked some questions.  I guess they could sense my sincerity, because they gave me a piece of paper with a destination written on it of where to meet them next.

     Several hundred miles away, and a few days later, after having “walked out the door of the vehicle’s life,” I rendezvoused with the group and spoke to Ti and Do for the first time.  I remember the moment as clear as a bell.  We were at a campground on a high mesa in Colorado, and Ti and Do were sitting in a couple of lawn chairs, meeting individually with the new prospective students who came out of the Waldport meeting.  As I approached them, Ti asked, “How can we help you”?  This vehicle was speechless at first, and I remember so clearly that the impulse I had was to want to drop to my knees and cover my eyes.  The only way I can describe it is the way it interpreted through this vehicle’s computer, colored by its old religious programming – because it felt like I was standing before my Lord, my God.  They seemed so familiar, but the thought I had was, “It seems so strange to see you in these human bodies.”  (Like normally, where we come from, where they occupy heavenly bodies, I wouldn’t be able to gaze upon them.)  All this was going through my head while I was trying to think of something to say.  We talked a few moments. The point is, it was pretty clear that I had known them previously, but not in these human bodies or “suits of clothes,” and that their minds were much older and wiser than I could even begin to comprehend. That night we all camped together and I slept outside watching the stars.  I was so thankful, so elated, so relieved, that I was home, with my true family – my soul family.  Now that I was connected with my Teachers, I knew I was safe – in their hands and the Next Level’s safe-keeping.  There was no more fear.  The best way I know to describe how I felt was, “My joy no man can take away.”

     For those who may be quick to judge that Ti and Do are two con- artists who deceived these innocent students into following them, whether for personal ego or for monetary gain, or any other reason you might conjure up, you’re gravely mistaken.  I am not an innocent victim.  It is beyond any doubt to me that we students and our Teachers are not from this world, but from the Level Above Human.  We had a task to come to this garden and incarnate into these borrowed adult human bodies that were “tagged” with a deposit and set aside for us, and abort all human mind, while replacing it by filling the soul with the mind of the Next Level as taught to us by our Teachers.  Then as the Next Level mind increases – and the soul begins to grow larger – the soul becomes a new “physical body” (invisible to humans because it’s of a higher vibration) – a newborn – in a new species.  This is being “born again” in the truest sense.  If the soul has grown sufficiently that the mind it contains is a match for the conduct and ways of that Next Kingdom, the true Kingdom of God, then that soul – new creature – will be issued a new “outer shell” or more advanced suit of clothes (“glorified body”) upon physically entering the Next Level, when we shed this human container at the conclusion of our task here.  The Level Above Human is a genderless Kingdom, and it is through this “metamorphic process” that it “reproduces” or adds to its Kingdom membership.  To complete this metamorphosis usually requires more than one period of visitation from the Level Above Human.  For example, we feel that probably all the students of Ti and Do were given their initial deposit some time ago, during prior visitations from Next Level Representatives.  As long as those souls continued to look to their source of nourishment and remain loyal and faithful, then they were “put on ice,” so to speak, in the keeping of the Next Level, between visitations, to be re-deposited and again connect with and seek the nurturing from a Rep during the next visitation.

     Now, at the close of the Age, all souls who have ever been given a deposit by the Next Level during any part of this present civilization, are back – incarnate again.  Even those who may have “fallen away” at one time, have a new opportunity to be restored. Those human plants who do not have a deposit will not even be capable of comprehending what we say, but there may be many human plants out there who have been given a deposit by Members of the Next Level for the first time, and will be able to recognize that what we are saying is true and the only thing that makes any sense to them.  How an individual responds to us and our information will determine whether they will have a future, and a further relationship with the Next Level.  In other words, coming in contact with this information will force a decision for all with souls (whether new deposits or returnees) and the stand they individually take will judge or determine their future.

     For several months in late ’75 and early ’76 while still holding meetings, searching for the rest of the crew who came with Ti and Do from the Next Level, many of us only saw Ti and Do a couple of times. Quite a few new followers dropped out during that time, and we now understand why.  It was because some were simply curiosity seekers, some were humans (without a deposit) just looking for an adventure, and some were part of the crew who came to be with Ti and Do on this mission and had a deposit, but found the disciplines to be too difficult – because they weren’t successful in overriding the desires of the vehicle they were wearing.  However, many followers did survive this early weeding-out process.  These are those who had deposits – who had a strong sense of knowing that they were sent here at this time to do a task, and had a strong recognition of Ti and Do and the information they brought.

     It was in late June/early July of 1976 that Ti and Do gathered all their surviving new students/disciples together in Medicine Bow National Forest in Wyoming.  Here is where the intensive “classroom” for learning Next Level ways and behavior began.  This is when Ti and Do really began taking us through the process of “incarnating” – what Ti and Do must have told us a million times before we finally began to grasp it – how to “get your mind into your vehicle.”

                                                        March 16, 1996

                        Appendix A  –  Page 5

Incarnating and Discarnating

December 20, 2013

Incarnating and Discarnating       By Jnnody

        When a man asked Jesus, “What shall I do that I may inherit eternal life”?  Jesus said, “You know the commandments,” and named several.  The man said he had observed them from youth.  Jesus then told him he lacked one thing:  “Sell what you have, give to the poor, and you shall have treasure in Heaven, and come take up the cross and follow me.”  The man didn’t feel that he could do that.  The point is that Jesus, as a Representative of the Kingdom of God, did not say, “After you die, you will go to Heaven, if you believe on Me.”  Jesus knew that wasn’t true because He brought the formula for getting into the Kingdom of Heaven, which He told this man.  Jesus also knew of the presence of discarnate spirits, for He cast out many.  So, if a human does not go to Heaven after death, and there are discarnate spirits that circulate on the planet, then what is the missing piece to the puzzle?  Perhaps this discussion will help fill in the gap.         We feel that planet Earth is a garden.  The Kingdom of God designed and created it, and planted it with a variety of life forms, including human, and tends it as the Gardeners.  The only harvest that is of any significance to that Kingdom is the harvest of souls.  Human bodies are just containers designed for those souls.  Those containers also serve as the lesson ground for those souls.  We also feel that the human condition was intended only as a transitional training ground – a proving ground for potential new members of the Kingdom of Heaven.  The creatures (the bodies and their spirits) on the planet were created with all the free-will options of:  a) going awry, separating from God, amounting to nothing, and being recycled;  b) overcoming the human condition and leaving it by becoming members in God’s Kingdom; or  c) becoming part of the opposition and fulfilling that part of the design.           The “Kingdom of God,” the “Evolutionary Level Above Human,” the “Next Level,” and the “Kingdom of Heaven” are all synonymous terms for the same advanced level of existence above the human kingdom.  This Next Level – the Kingdom of God – is a many-membered Kingdom, a physical level of existence in deepest space (outside of man’s concept of time) beyond this human level – advanced physically, technologically, behaviorally, ethically, genetically, and in the wisdom and knowledge of service in the Creator’s world.  When we refer to the “opposition,” we speak of groups of space aliens (historically referred to as Satan and his angels, whom we call “Luciferians” – slightly advanced, human-equivalent races).  They reside in the near heavens, and use and abuse Earth and its inhabitants for their own ends (biological and mineral resources, genetic manipulation, and winning souls to their side).  One major difference between the Next Level members and the Luciferians is that members of the Evolutionary Level Above Human are genderless.           Entry into the Kingdom of God or the Next Level does not automatically occur at death of the body (vehicle), regardless of the seeming “goodness” of that individual’s life.  The Next Level increases their membership (in the Kingdom of Heaven) through a metamorphic process, by periodically offering to humans who “catch their eye,” an opportunity to become containers – be the “wombs” – for new creatures of the Next Level (potential new members in their world).  A soul must enter that Kingdom consciously, only after a classroom period of learning the ways and behavior of the Level Above Human, and dropping human ways and behavior, while in the physical presence and tutorship of a Representative(s) sent from that Kingdom. The point is that souls who can make that transition have to consciously know the truth (the facts) about where they are going, what they had to leave behind, and who they are following (that Representative) through the transition into that Kingdom.  This is the only “future” (life) that is available to humans, for periodically, the garden is “spaded under” in preparation for another “cycle” of a human civilization.  At that time all those who have not been “set aside” by the Kingdom of God will be part of the recycling or “spading under.”         What is LIFE and what is DEATH?  Who gives life and who takes it? The inhabitants of this garden, including humans, are considered “plants” in the eyes of the Kingdom of God.  The human body (which we often refer to as the “plant”) is a perennial offshoot of a living strain, a “container,” and is really of no consequence to the Next Level as far as life or death is concerned.  The Representative who came 2000 years ago said, “And do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul; but rather be afraid of Him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.”           We define life and death as it relates to the body, the spirit, the soul, and the mind in somewhat different terms than are commonly used.  One premise is that every human creature (“plant”) has a body, and that body has its own spirit/mind.    The Body

     The body (the flesh and bones) is the temporary “suit of clothes,” a container, a “vehicle” for the “spirit.”  If we make the analogy to a computer, then the body is the hard drive or hardware, and the spirit is the software – the informational mind.  Another good analogy is to see the body/vehicle as a car and the spirit as the driver.  The car’s design and capabilities are specific to the kind of car it is.  But it still takes the “mind” behind the wheel to make the car function as it was designed.  Most humans identify with the physical vehicle (body), while members of Our Father’s Kingdom identify with or as the soul.  What you see in the mirror (the body) – is not “you.”  The spirit is the real “you” and continues to live in the spirit world after the body dies, with your memories, programming, habits, and addictions.           There is a very real, physical, genetic, ancestral strain that is like a vine, with each vehicle (body) like the leaves.  When a body “dies,” the family “vine” is not seriously affected, any more than a botanical plant is that affected when one of its leaves falls.  Like the perennial cycle of the plant, which in its season grows, blossoms, goes to seed, then withers and dies, the human cycle is much the same. Being perennial, the rootstock is not affected by the “death” of an individual plant, or more accurately, a part of the plant, at the end of its season.           Each human vehicle has in its genes what amounts to the sum of the genetic information that has accumulated and been passed down from its ancestors since the beginning of that strain – all their positive and negative characteristics, weaknesses, potential diseases, strengths, addictions, talents, ways of thinking, as well as physical traits of appearance, coloring, etc.  The genes are like computer chips that store information.  This genetic programming amounts to the body’s programming – giving it “a mind of its own.”  It has its own desires – kind of like a living computer that doesn’t ever quite shut down, even when it’s in a sleep state.  It has desires that manifest in ways of wanting certain foods, certain experiences, or certain habits or pleasures that it has been subjected to by its own inherited genetic programming, the environment around it or time-share spirits (which will be discussed next).  Inherited genetic characteristics or programming unfold in a time-capsule progression as the body matures from infant to old age.  What any individual does, affects their  genetic strain, and is physically passed on if they have offspring or if they influence another’s actions or thinking.  Repetitive behavior is stamped or recorded on the genes and that preference is passed down to offspring.  The saving grace is that also through repetition the genes can be “reprogrammed” and addictive behavior and negative characteristics can be turned around – that is, can be licked and thereby not passed down, or is passed on as “controlled.”           One additional point:  A child does not “belong” to the parent(s), any more than the apple belongs to the tree.  A parent cannot say, “You are my child – you have to take care of me when I get old,” any more than the tree can say to the farmer, “That is  my apple,” when the farmer comes along to pick it.

The Spirit

     It could be said that a spirit is born each time a vehicle (body) is born, and progresses in its development, knowledge, programming, and identity along with the vehicle (body).  In other words, the spirit grows in exact parallel to the vehicle’s growth, and as the vehicle’s consciousness is affected by genetic characteristics and its environment, the spirit takes on that information, that “software.” The spirit normally leaves the vehicle at its termination and continues to live in the spirit world.  The only exception to this is when a soul leaves the human environment and goes to the real world of the Next Level, with a Representative of that Level.  If a young child- body dies, a young child-spirit is born into the “discarnate world” – a spirit is nothing more, nothing less than the intelligent programming sum content of the mind (both conscious and subconscious) of the biological container (body) before its demise.  So, where the individual’s consciousness is – where his trust and beliefs are – at the termination of his body, that is where his consciousness will be when he enters the spirit world.         As spirits from the discarnate world move into a vehicle, they are “incarnating,” – an “invading” spirit moves in of its own accord, either to time-share or in an attempt to take over and claim the vehicle as its own.  When these spirits move out of a body they are “discarnating.”  The spirit finds itself without or outside of a body as a result of death or incapacitation of the body (such as a coma), or when, as a “time-share” discarnate, it moves out of a body. Discarnates do not incarnate or move into a host body at the birth of the body.  They only come in when what they are interested in can be accomplished by the functional capabilities of the plant.  Therefore, reincarnation at birth, in the sense that many religions believe, is a completely inaccurate concept.  A spirit is born with the body – any reincarnation or incarnation would be done by “invading” spirits who would attempt to use the body for their own satisfaction or purposes.         Without a vehicle, the spirit is not able to experience sensation – a vehicle (with its sense of taste, touch, feeling, pleasure, smell, etc.) is required.  Because the spirit is left with the same consciousness it had while in a vehicle, then the addictions it had are also still active.  In order to satisfy those desires, the spirit finds it must enter a vehicle and talk the body into, or con the body into, carrying out its wishes.  Since it appears that each time a vehicle is born, a new spirit is born, and when the vehicle is terminated, a new spirit enters the discarnate, this means that for every vehicle (body) that has been born since the beginning of this civilization, that same number of spirits are presently in the discarnate or spirit world.  At this point in the civilization, most humans tolerate, if not depend on, several unseen occupants, in a “time-share” arrangement, in addition to their own rightful spirit – the mind emanation of the body.  Many of these discarnates are deceased family members who remain close to the family strain.  Some spirits become bitter after losing their vehicle, because the spirit world is not up to their expectations.  Others, who expect to “go to Heaven” see the spirit world as “heaven,” and other spirits as angels. These spirits will sometimes act in a guardian-angel role.         For the most part, these time-share discarnates could be seen as helpful – some assisting with career, others with romance, or sports, or homemaking, and so on.  “Inspiration” (in-spirit-ation) is nothing more than ideas given by discarnates.  The more prominent a person is, the greater the number of discarnates and the stronger their presence is.  In that sense, the “plant” or the host body becomes more of a “medium” for discarnates with ambitious agendas.  What, in general, is accepted as the “personality” of an individual is made up of the combined characteristics of the participating discarnates along with the host’s own spirit/software.  Most, if not all, humans host multiple time-share discarnates, but it is when these discarnates are inharmonious or dissimilar that they are more easily recognized and seen as problematic. When this occurs, the individuals are often spoken of as having “multiple personalities” or “schizophrenia,” in human clinical circles.  “Past-life readings” might reveal the story- telling of time-share discarnates, but in reality, the concept of “past lives” is not at all reliable.  If past-life readings were accurate, how do you explain the thousands of people who have claimed to be “King Tut,” Cleopatra, Jesus, John the Baptist, etc.?  One of the dangers we see with past-life readings is that the questions posed by the past-life reader open the door to old discarnates who you might have previously risen above or run away.  Opening those doors pulls those discarnates back, and the possibility exists that you might have to deal with those serious problems or hurdles again.         If the vehicle/spirit is permissive and it adopts the behavior of the “time-share” spirit as something it wants to continue with and chooses to repeat, that behavior becomes a part of its own programming or “software package.”  In other words, the behavior and desires of the time-share spirit are added to the program/consciousness of the spirit that belongs to the vehicle.  The invading human-level spirit cannot learn lessons from its influence on, or use of a vehicle, though the vehicle/spirit can learn and change.  An “invading” spirit(s), because of its strength, can dominate the behavior of the vehicle.  However, any vehicle/spirit that is strong enough can choose to resist the “influence” of any potential time-share spirit.         An interesting observation is that as an individual’s body grows older and becomes less exciting to the invading or time-share spirits, those spirits leave and move into other younger vehicles, taking with them the influence of their interests and talents.  The personality of the aging individual then appears to wane and lose incentive.  In a similar way, if someone has been imprisoned (for a violent act, for example), the pleasures most spirits would enjoy would not be available in prison, but the animal, more base situation of the prison would invite other spirits to cohabit in that vehicle.  The irony is that for death-row inmates, for example, you can kill the body of the person who committed the crime, but you’re doing nothing but shoving those violent, time-share spirits that influenced that human to commit the crime, into a condition of taking over another plant (body).  In other words, you haven’t solved the problem at all – the spirit has made a fool of you.  You may have only hastened the spirit’s activities by freeing it from its imprisoned body, enabling it to go outside the prison and find a free, willing body in order to murder again.  Killing the bodies only frees the spirits.         How many life forms move into the discarnate?  It is very possible that every living creature on the planet has a spirit.  A spirit is as physical as the wind or as breath – when it is still you don’t notice it, but when it begins to move you notice it.  For example, the spirits of the herds of buffalo or dinosaurs that roamed the land continue to roam, with the consciousness of the mass (weight) of the vehicle they wore.  They can come together, en masse, and stampede as a strong wind.  The winds that roar through at times could likely be those spirits acting according to their “programming” to migrate.  On the other hand, the spirits of insects can still be pesky to humans, and lower life form spirits (plant and insect) may have varying degrees of negative, destructive influence on humans, as parasitic spirits causing diseases.    The Mind

     We define mind as “collective information.”  Many humans define mind as the brain, which is confusing and inaccurate.  All “mind,” or information, comes from two sources (though it certainly would not be recognized as such):  a) the Next Level – the Kingdom of God, or  b) the opposition – the Lower Forces – Lucifer, Satan, or the Luciferians and their naive servants.  Hence, the concept of truth vs. falsehood, genuine vs. counterfeit.  That “collective information,” or mind, is what fills the “container” and eventually determines whose side you are on or which “world” or evolutionary level you are a part of – one leads to a real Heaven, the other leads nowhere or to eventual annihilation.  Only Next Level mind has life-giving nourishment (potentially everlasting).  All information other than that which comes from the Kingdom of God has no life or life-giving qualities (has no opportunity for an actual future).  You can build on Next Level “mind” in like manner to building on computer software.         When speaking of the Trinity – the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit – the “Holy Spirit,” or “Holy Ghost,” refers to the mind, the information, the Truth or facts from the Next Level (which includes instructions and procedures appropriate to the Kingdom of Heaven). The word “Holy” designates the Next Level quality of information that is in that mind.  Another term indicating the source as being from the Level Above Human is “Divine.”  These are appropriate usages by humans when referring to the Next Level.  However, when today’s so-called Christians say they are “filled with the Holy Ghost,” it is almost blasphemous, from our point of view – it usually means nothing more than a visit from disembodied Earth-bound spirits (showmen, at that).    The Soul

     What is Life?  Life is something that is sustainable, has a future, can go on.  If you have life that is sustainable, you therefore potentially have eternal life.  But, if you have information that leads to your end – if from your perspective you can see the end, then you have “bought” a “death software package.”  All software packages other than that of the Kingdom of God – the Next Level – leads to your end.  There is no “sustainable future” to be found in this world, it is found only in the Next Level.  The human vehicle/spirit is a plant – a very temporal plant.  Just because the human plant has movement, noise, and activity does not mean it has sustainable life; any more than a robot, just because it has energy – whether solar or electric – and temporary activity, has life.  Life is an ingredient that is missing in a garden, except when an individual of the Next Level brings it in, plants it, and nourishes it.  And that ingredient always has potential sustainability – even unlimited.         The Kingdom of God, being a genderless Kingdom, “reproduces” or adds to its Kingdom membership through the use of a metamorphic process.  The metamorphic “birth” into the Level Above Human occurs as follows:  In any given civilization on a fertile planet such as Earth (and Earth has had many periodic/cyclical civilizations), the Level Above Human plants new life forms (including humans) for that civilization in a neutral condition so that they have a limited option to choose the direction of their growth.  (Though at times the Next Level permits some space-alien groups to do some planting as well.) The Level Above Human directly (hands on) relates significantly to the civilization at its beginning stage, and subsequently (with few exceptions) at approximately 2000-year intervals (approximately 48 hours from a Next Level perspective) until that civilization’s final “Age” or “harvest.”         Each time the Next Level relates directly to any portion of that civilization, “deposits” containing “souls” (the “seed” or “chip” with a program of metamorphic possibilities) are placed in many human plants.  This deposit is potentially the “gift of life” into the physical and real Evolutionary Level Above Human.  These deposits are given or deposited only when members of the Next Level are assigned to directly relate to (be incarnate in) the civilization.  Only these Representatives can “nurture” those soul deposits with Next Level thinking, behavior, and all the information required to effectively “fluff off” all human/mammalian ways.  If a “seed” (deposit) has not been planted in the vehicle/spirit, then the vehicle/spirit is simply a temporary container.  A human being is significant for the first time, from the Kingdom of God’s point of view, when a new creature of the Next Level begins – when germination has begun – the “deposit” being the seed and the information (mind) from the Next Level being what germinates the seed.         As we mentioned earlier, the human vehicle/spirit, for the most part, is connected to the family vine of its ancestors (that vine is its root system) and draws a significant amount of its sustenance from that vine.  When a human vehicle/spirit is given a soul deposit, an actual new creature has its beginning.  In order to survive, this new creature must draw its sustenance (nourishment) from the Next Level – meaning it must break its ties to the vehicular family vine and literally “graft” to the family vine of the Next Level.  That new creature has to desire to learn and willfully has to “draw” or “feed” (be nourished with information) from the Next Level in order to sustain its life.         This “soul program” has the potential to become an “encasement” for Next Level mind or information that can develop into a physical body more “subtle” or less dense (from a human physics perspective) than the human body.  The more Next Level mind the soul brings in, while it simultaneously aborts from the vehicle all mind that is not of the Next Level, the stronger, the larger, the less subtle that body, or membrane encasement, becomes.  When it starts to grow, it becomes physical (though not easily discernible by human analysis) – a new inner body.  If the individual continues in his growth, becoming viable and a match for a vehicle (body) of that Next Kingdom, then when the human flesh body is “dropped,” that soul or “inner body” will have a chance to move into a Next Level body (vehicle or suit of clothes) that has been prepared specifically for it.  It might be possible that when the soul is “ripe” or “viable” with sufficient Next Level mind, it has become what could be called a Next Level body without its outer shell or suit of clothes.  (A spirit that has not been given a “soul deposit” or the potential for this encasement is of a different quality altogether and has not begun to grow a Next Level body.)  If a soul finds favor with the Kingdom of Heaven, it is put “on ice” to be replanted in a garden like Earth at a specific future time in the civilization’s development.  At that time, a vehicle would be given a deposit and set aside for that soul’s use.  That chip or deposit would be different for the “returnee” – a different program and different capacity – than was given as a “first time” deposit.  (See also point number 10 in the “’95 Statement by an E.T. Presently Incarnate”, Section 1, Page 4.)         That “soul program” makes advancement beyond the human kingdom possible, and includes a “separate-from-the-world” program.  It also allows the soul to go places, survive in certain extensions of the “corral” (nearby space) that spirits without souls are not allowed to go.  So, the space aliens seek out souls with deposits, particularly those who have been in this classroom.  If a soul turns the other way when it comes in contact with Next Level information or the Representative, then the germination of the Next Level body does not occur, and the soul, for all intents and purposes, is of no worth to the Next Level, and is “dead.”  It has made its choice not to be of service (usually because of the reluctance or slowness to relinquish human characteristics and ties), and the Next Level has no use or place for it.  But to the space aliens, it’s a good product – it is a “wise” product because it is not interested in the Next Level’s information and is advanced beyond the naive human world.  This means that every space alien had once received a deposit and was once a student or potential student of the Next Level, but chose to go against them, or away from them at the least.         So, the only proper application of the term “death” is the termination of the soul, and only the Kingdom of God can kill the soul.  Therefore, the human body does not experience “death” – it can be terminated or “dropped.”  Dying gets you nowhere (in terms of a Heaven).  The Next Level even controls the time a vehicle spends on the planet, and when that end time comes, something in the vehicle breaks down which is labeled “heart disease,” “cancer,” etc.  It is out of ignorance that humans would say someone “died” instead of “they dropped their vehicle.”  The concepts of the spirit world and dropping the body are not well accepted in the Christian U.S., though many so- called “less-civilized” cultures know it as fact.         Recently, Dr. Kevorkian stood trial for helping terminally ill individuals “drop their vehicles.”  At the trial it was never brought up that the individual – the spirit – cannot be killed by other humans (or even space aliens).  Those terminally ill individuals, whom Kevorkian helped, had faith that they would continue on, with relief from the pain and breakdown of the vehicle they were wearing.  It certainly is their right to do so.  It seems obvious that no one really believes that they are the spirit/soul, or euthanasia wouldn’t be an issue.  We stand for a liberal euthanasia program – if someone wants to drop their vehicle, they should have a right to do so.  Why is it honorable to die for your country, serving whatever regime is in power, but not for other or higher reasons?  And why should governments have the power to sentence humans to “death” as if their authority is equal to or above God’s?  Or, why is it right to “kill” a “plant” in the womb?  There is “plant” life in the male and in the female, and when they come together it is still “plant” life.  There was “life” before the womb – it does not just begin at conception or birth.         Jesus was not a religious man.  He was a man from the only real potential future – in another world, an evolutionarily advanced level of existence – the Next Level.  He incarnated into a human vehicle (down an evolutionary notch – the equivalent of a human soul incarnating into a dog’s vehicle).  He had overcome the human level at a distantly previous time.  “Jesus” did not incarnate into the body of a newborn babe.  The vehicle was simply tagged for His use at a later time when it had grown and developed enough for His advanced mind to be able to use it.  He left his vehicle in the Level Above Human and incarnated into the vehicle that was named “Jesus” around the time of his baptism by John the Baptist (depicted as when the spirit fell upon him as a dove from Heaven).  Likewise, Ti and Do incarnated into vehicles that had been picked and prepped for them, when those vehicles were in their 40’s.  These vehicles had been set aside for them since their birth.         The Bible says, “There is nothing new under the sun.”  The most advanced achievements of humans to date in space exploration, genetics, computer science (artificial intelligence), medicine, music, arts, entertainment, weaponry, etc. are grade-school level in comparison to what the Next Level has to offer, and there is evidence that this level of advancement had been reached by other previous civilizations on the planet.  The Next Level created this garden and everything on it.  Humans can do nothing more than “reverse engineer” what “God has wrought.”  And humans will be allowed to advance only so far.  This advancement has occurred, in particular since Ti and Do came into this atmosphere.  When we go, that Next Level presence will leave also.         Christians hope for a “personal relationship” with Jesus, but that can be accomplished only when there is a physical presence of those Representatives from the Kingdom of Heaven on the planet.  The members of this class have a personal relationship with the present incarnate Representatives, Ti and Do.  Unfortunately, outside of this class, all one has is the illusion of that relationship.  Our anger is with the space aliens and with the humans who have been their best puppets – including Paul and today’s religious leaders.  These space aliens have insulted and belittled the Next Level, their Creators, from day one when the serpent (Luciferians) convinced Adam and Eve that by eating the fruit from the forbidden “tree of life” they “would not die…but would be as gods knowing good and evil.”  Understand that these space aliens are in jail, they have been confined to this garden and its nearby space “neighborhood” because of past “crimes” against the Kingdom of God.  Some of  the space aliens are not cognizant of their misdeeds; they believe they are doing the right thing and are being helpful to humans.  Others know exactly what they are doing.  They will be recycled along with the rest of the life forms on the planet, though possibly on a different time table.  They know their death is approaching, so they are doing all they can to work against the Next Level.  The Bible says, ” a wicked and adulterous generation looks for miraculous things, but none will be given it except the sign of Jonah.”  We have seen that sign, because we have done it, we have been through that “hourglass” in the transition from human to the Kingdom of God.  If you had done what I have done then you would know what I know.  I have been with Ti and Do, I have been their child, I have served the Next Level through them and with them.  I am witness to who they are.  I am extremely thankful to have been given the opportunity to be a part of this classroom, and their student, a potential new member of the Evolutionary Level Above Human.                                                               May 6, 1996

                    Appendix A  –  Page 48

 

Deposits By Snnody – 3 Kinds: 1=Chip (seed) grows into a soul 2=returning soul 3=Jesus/Ti and Do type

December 20, 2013

Deposits By Snnody

For thousands of years, humanity thought of itself as the creation of either a supreme being, or a group of superior beings. Then, suddenly, there emerged the idea that humanity was the latest update in what had begun as a mindless, but enormous cosmic accident. Almost overnight, the cult of Science catapulted an unruly, adolescent public, eager to be free of unreasonable constraints, out “into the streets” to wander aimlessly. What, one is forced to wonder, could have been the basis of such a monumental shift in consciousness? Seemingly, according to some versions given in the history books, it was nothing more than professorial observations and deliberations upon the fact that some lizards which, having been isolated on the Galapagos Islands for thousands of years, developed certain traits which differed slightly from those of lizards existing on the mainland.

Although Darwin’s Theory of Evolution quickly gained widespread acceptance throughout Western civilization, we can’t help but continue to wonder – if a person examined thoroughly, from a truly unbiased point of view, all the facts available at this time, might it become apparent that the real impetus behind mankind’s “evolving” psyche has actually come from space aliens (technologically advanced human- equivalents) who, desiring total control over humanity, have been subliminally programming their unknowing servants here on Earth (an intellectual and financial “elite”) this theory of evolution along with most other religions, philosophies, and scientific breakthroughs – all as “next steps” in their programming agenda?

We are aware that this will strike many as sounding even more far- fetched than the first possible explanation, but if this theory of evolution were actually correct, and if the reasoning were accurate, why then such constant and pervasive pronouncements from “prestigious” members of the scientific community (not to mention professional UFO debunkers) that, despite the ease (and speed) with which the evolution of species occurred here on Earth, there existed no chance for similar organic compounds to have happened to clump, accidentally, together in intelligent-life-producing fashion somewhere “out there”?

Mankind is at best only a “child” – the creation of a Kingdom Level of existence far more evolved, advanced, mature, and complete than anything humans are capable of imagining. The human kingdom was set in motion, as were the kingdom levels beneath human, according to a specific and carefully crafted design – and with a specific purpose in mind. In the beginning of a civilization, the Level Above Human plants all the life forms (including humans) in a neutral condition so that they have the chance to choose the direction of their growth. Every person is constantly faced with circumstances which present options, and thus, they constantly make choices according to desires that are more often subliminal than conscious. No matter what the circumstances might be, everyone has the free will to choose how to respond – and those responses will lead that person either in the direction of being less of a slave, or to become more enmeshed in those circumstances.

Whatever choices human beings make as individuals, or as societies, ultimately do not interfere with the Next Level’s design or purpose. The space aliens (remnants of civilizations created long ago by the Evolutionary Kingdom Level Above Human, but who got off track) do their best to promote their own agenda, but whatever they do, they only serve the grand design (unknowingly) by providing further options. They provide the negative; the necessary catalyst for the growth of souls which are introduced into this “womb-like” environment. Souls are “placed in the balance” by the Next Level to choose, under the guidance of incarnate Members of that Kingdom Level Above Human, either the ways of the Level Above Human, which lead to selflessness, humility, reality, and life – or the self-serving ways of the Luciferian Space Aliens who oppose it, which are based upon misinformation and lead to greater illusion and death.

Thus, the purpose of this creation is to produce new members for the Level Above Human. Though members of that Level have physical bodies, the bodies have no gender. (Replication based on gender was designed for the plant and animal kingdoms.) New members of the Kingdom of Heaven are born through a metamorphic process which begins when the Level Above Human, or Next Level, “plants seeds,” – places deposits or “chips” of Next Level mind (mind that comes from the Creator, the Chief of Chiefs, or Most High God – the term you use is not important) into human “plants” during times when they relate very closely to the garden-planet, and during “follow-up” visits that occur at roughly 2000-year intervals after the initial planting. A deposit is potentially the gift of life for it contains the programming necessary to begin the metamorphic process which can lead to entry into the real Evolutionary Level Above Human, where there is no death.

When the Next Level checks out the human population and finds individuals that seem to have potential, they know it’s time to “plant” seeds or give them deposits. Whatever criteria the Next Level has for planting the “seeds” where they do, would probably not be obvious to human perception. The person may or may not appear to be religious. An atheist may have a greater desire for the facts than a preacher who believes he is serving God. Humans cannot judge, only the Level Above Human can judge. The person with this new deposit cannot even judge. The first reaction to the deposit may be, “What is happening? Goodness, none of this has any meaning for me anymore. Is there something, somewhere that has some meaning? I’ve got to find something, I don’t even know what, but there must be something that can take me farther than where I am.”

These seed-like deposits can also be compared to tiny computer chips programmed with a sort of “homing device” to seek nourishment which can come only from a member of the Level Above Human who visits Earth and incarnates into a human body. For a soul to be “fertilized” and begin to grow, the deposit must make contact with that Representative of the Level Above Human. This germination can happen even through just hearing about the Representative, or coming into contact with some of the information brought by the Representative, because information and mind are the same thing.

Mind is invisible to the human eye. When the deposit makes contact with the Representative, it is an actual physical contact between the mind of the deposit and the mind or information brought by that member of the Next Level – called by humans “the Kingdom of Heaven.” While Jesus was able to perform His task, 2000 years ago, with His Father in a spacecraft in the nearby Heavens, His followers needed Him to be in a human vehicle (body) at close range so they could pull in the nourishment/information/mind they needed to graft to the “vine” of His Mind (which was – and is – grafted to the mind of His Father, and on up the vine to the mind of the Chief). Also, it is always necessary for a Member of the Next Level to physically leave the Kingdom of Heaven, come to Earth, and incarnate into a human body because Next Level Mind must be “stepped down” significantly for the “fertilization or germination” of new souls and the nourishment of young souls to be possible. For a young soul to be able to bond or graft to the vine of mind of the Next Level, there must be a point at which the frequency of each can connect.

A human being is a spirit contained within a physical body during a lifetime and released into the spirit world when that physical body becomes too damaged or worn out to be usable. A soul, on the other hand, grows from a deposit of Next Level Mind, as described above, and becomes a container for more and more Next Level Mind. It can continue to grow wiser and stronger (larger and more dense), so long as it seeks the nourishment provided by its Father (or Older Member) – that Member of the Level Above Human who has been assigned the task of visiting the garden to “midwife” candidates for new membership. If the soul continues to choose to look to and draw nourishment from the Older Member, then at the end of its “lifetime” (at the time of death of the body it has been using), it is taken into the keeping of the Level Above Human, “placed on ice” in the sense that it is removed from the human environment (does not go into the spirit world), though it may not yet be able to participate in Next Level activities. It is set aside, so to speak, until the next cyclical visit of a Next Level Representative to the garden.

Metamorphosis is not ordinarily accomplishable or completed during only one period of visitation from the Level Above Human. Therefore, at the cyclical visitations, a second type of deposit (or one with different ingredients) is placed in human vehicles for the ones returning, in addition to any new deposits being made for new souls. This type of deposit contains a program that will set aside or “tag” a vehicle until the appropriate time for a young soul to incarnate into it. Again, the programming still includes the desire to seek nourishment from the Older Member, but it also contains information to help the young soul pick up where it left off; work on the lessons it still needs to learn and benefit from areas where it has grown strong. At this stage, as at any other, the soul can choose to drop its program of Next Level study. It has free will and can always choose to become interested in the misinformation that is aggressively preached by the Luciferian Space Aliens. If it should make that choice, it may later attempt to get back on track after seeing through the illusion of the misinformation, or it may become too attached to the feeling of pride and ego and taking credit for things, and ultimately find itself growing in the direction of the space aliens – though ones in this situation would not likely recognize this to be the case themselves.

There is still another type of deposit. Whenever a Member of the Kingdom Level Above Human visits a garden such as Earth, a human vehicle (body) must be “tagged” and set aside for that Representative’s use. The programming in such a deposit would differ greatly from the programs meant for either a beginning soul or a young soul returning to continue its growth.

Not all humans have souls. On this garden there are human “plants” who have not received deposits, those with deposits/souls who are receiving nourishment from the present Representatives toward completing their metamorphosis, and those with deposits/souls who are not in a direct relationship with Representatives due to either not yet having come in contact with the Representatives, or having lost their choice to pursue the nourishment of the Level Above Human. Humans with deposits containing souls can likely be identified at this time as some of those who are rapidly losing respect for this world or its “system.” From the system’s point of view, they are often irresponsible citizens, whether their symptoms take the form of being “homeless,” prisoners, other social dropouts (doing drugs, alcohol, losing respect for the family and career norms), or religious or political radicals. At this point in time – the end of this civilization – all the souls who were deposited since the beginning of the civilization (about 6000 years ago), whether they have been faithfully trying to do their best to learn Next Level ways or have “fallen away,” have been brought back. The Next Level is more than fair, and before closing the door of the Kingdom of Heaven to any soul, gives more than ample time for each to make a decision and either stick with it or lose it.

Religions have attempted to describe man’s relationship to his Creator, but they have all been tools of the space aliens. Although all religions contain seeds of truth which were planted by the Evolutionary Level Above Human, space aliens have twisted those truths so that souls might be blinded to the intended meaning and more easily influenced to do the opposite of what would be in their own best interest.

Life, truth, the facts, reality, Next Level Mind – all are synonymous, and that which they refer to doesn’t “stand still.” It comes from the Chief of Chiefs. It cannot be contained in dogma or ritual. If you are one who wants ultimately to become something of value, you have to grow with it, change constantly, seek and accept higher understandings each day – drop old concepts. What comprises reality or “the facts” for one soul cannot be exactly the same as reality for any other soul. The facts for one soul one day, cannot remain the facts, or the soul will begin to go retrograde. Eternal life comes from eternally choosing to seek nourishment from your Older Member, drawing Next Level Mind into your soul – putting into practice the behavior and thinking (information) that make up that mind, and “fluffing off” out-dated mind – letting go of old concepts, forgetting the past.

Humanity is not the apex of evolution. The Chief of Chiefs is, and He is continually growing and improving. A state of perfection can never be reached, for that would be Death. The Evolutionary Level Above Human, the Kingdom of Heaven, where the Chief resides, is a level of existence wherein the many members do not experience death or decay. They are able to circulate throughout the Heavens, they know themselves to be souls (containers for mind), and they are able to “wear” different bodies, as different tasks are assigned them, as easily as humans (who have come to think of themselves as nothing more than bodies) wear different suits of clothes.

The human kingdom was created to be the starting point of a wondrous adventure which can lead to Eternal Life for those who have received a deposit and continue to have unquenchable thirst for the truth. It is through the metamorphosis of such souls that newborns of the Kingdom of Heaven come into being if they continue to receive Next Level nourishment and continue to accept and overcome every challenge placed in their way by the aggressive influence of the opposing forces – the Luciferian space aliens. Still, every individual has free will – and may always choose from a variety of other options that were all provided by the Next Level; for The Next Level wants only those individuals who have proven their mettle.

A young soul may be confused at first by the allure of the “holographic creation” we call Earth or humanity, and although the deposit provides the ability to see through the illusion, the person must still exert serious effort in order to find, connect with, and bond or graft to the Representative who was sent to be the “midwife.” The Representative might seem anti-human or blasphemous from the point of view of the space aliens’ programming, but the deposit gives the ability to recognize the simple honesty and goodness which is characteristic of all Members of the Next Level. The deposit can help make it very clear how Next Level information contrasts greatly from the options that space aliens aggressively preach from the pulpits, expound from the universities, and enforce from the halls of so-called justice – and which lead to a complete dead end.

In the design of the garden, the Luciferians unknowingly serve the Level Above Human by being the catalyst for growth. They labor to keep humans with soul deposits programmed to continue to function at the animal level so they will not be able to recognize the Next Level when it comes. They preach that God wants us to remain on Earth as humans indulging in the sensuality of a gender-based society in a vain attempt to secure their continued existence. They are for the most part aware that with the cyclical spading-under of the garden, which is imminent as this is the end of the Age, their ranks are scheduled to be recycled as well.

This gift of life, this deposit, the Next Level gives freely, for They have no need of new or additional members. It is simply Their pleasure to offer Life to human plants who otherwise have no future. Thank God for sending Representatives and for depositing souls so that some may become a part of Their Kingdom.

May 2, 1996

Appendix A – Page 43

 

By their fruit ye shall know them

September 27, 2011

Below is a Christian Blog I’ve been commenting on run by a man named Henry. Two of his regular blog readers, named Marianne and Hopeful_watcher have been adament in saying, believing that Ti and Do can’t possably be who They said they were/are as the Two Witnesses in Revelations and all the many, many other scriptural and prophetic evidences.

As a result of our converstation that began with some of Henry’s posts but had been continued from my frequent commenting on yet another Christian Blog run by L.A. Marzulli – see his site address at the end, Henry made a post linked below. I’m providing my latest response to Henry  here for the sake of some of  what I feel might be the clearest example I have realized of what Jesus meant by, “you will know them by their Fruit”.

There is a great example to me demonstated here. I can’t tell you how many times I read all this talk about “fruit” and in the last few weeks with the lengthy back and forth with these Christians, I struggled to try to offer them more concrete proof in Biblical scriptures. I’d look at these about “fruit” and wonder, what is the fruit? How do I best point the term “fruit” to something literal and tangible? That was just yesterday or the day before I asked that. Then today as I responded to Henry’s last post, it dawned on me and now I feel exceedingly silly to not  have seen this so clearly as I feel I do now.

Fruit is doing in thought/word and deed all the Kingdom of God has given us to do, as best we can. Even if we fail and fall short in this or that area, as long as we keep on trying which means asking for Ti and Do’s help, they will help us. If we don’t ask we don’t receive. So if there is anything that Ti and Do did brainwash us into doing (hopefully), It was asking help from the Evolutionary Level Above Human, in religoius terms the Kingdom of God, and as Jesus said, asking “Our Father in the literal heavens” and as Ti said, to make our committment with Do, her “son”, our Heavenly Father.

Ti always said to us: “Get your mind into your vehicle”. We even taught a parrot Ti and Do got for us when we were living near White Rock Lake in Dallas, the last Craft we saw Ti in as she left her body from there in 1985, I think it was May or June 19th (I’m mixed up about it now – It may be in the Purple book and/or on heavengate.com).

So first I will list Henry’s latest comment, but you can click the link to his blog post entitled, “the heracy of heaven’s gate” at the end of this post to see what he initially said and some of the back and forth.

Then after Henry’s latest comment, my response:

On that note, re: “by their fruit you shall know them”…

Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Mat 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Mat 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. Mat 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither cana corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Mat 7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Mat 7:24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: Mat 7:25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. Mat 7:26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: Mat 7:27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

Henry said:

Sawyer,

I am open to discuss scripture with you on any topic. However the mistake you make is rather than examine what you have been taught against scripture you instead examine scripture against what you have been taught. You reject the teachings of Paul for example based on what you heard someone else teach instead of examining Paul’s teachings against the rest of scripture. I have looked at Paul’s teachings agains Christ’s own and I see no fault in it. When Paul went preaching the Gospel in Berea those that received him received the word with all readiness of heart but they did not accept the teaching at face value. They instead studied the scriptures daily to see if what Paul was teaching was true. As a result Paul called them more noble than those of Thessolonica. This is what you should have done.

The mistake you have made is the same thing you are asking me to do. You are asking me to take your word for it on what you say because someone was teaching you this thing for over 20 years – but the length of time something is being taught does not in itself substantiate the truth of it. Hence I have examined those things you have claimed against scriptures and found it wanting. To decry me and argue that I do not no anything about the group is neither here nor there. I do not need to know the history of a group to know whether or not certain claims they make are true or not. I have to examine what you claim against scripture and if it doesn’t tie in with scripture then it has to be rejected.

I have seen though that you have not addressed the things I have said to you on a scriptural basis but you have instead resorted to taking “pop shots” at me and then call my analysis of your doctrine petty. I think it is you who are being petty, not me. Instead of keep going back to what Ti and Do said you should be examining what Ti and Do said agains Holy Writ.

Sawyer’s reply:

Henry, Let me just say, I apologize if I’ve said disrespectful things to you. I’m not sure what they were at this time but you said “pot shots” so I no doubt have become somewhat defensive at times and aggressive as well. However, I do feel, the retorick from you and Marieanne and hopeful_watcher is often just as confrontational, which I don’t enjoy, but I’m not in this for enjoyment and it’s actually fine as we each have strong feelings about what we believe.

Nevertheless, what I feel happens a great deal in my opinion, which may in part be due to the nature of comments on the internet, lots of assumptions seem to be made. I know marianne said I assumed she was a Catholic, but if you go back to what I said, I simply said she “sounded like a catholic” regarding her talking about the “trinity” (not a word in the bible record I can find in any language).

Now I can see how looking at those words I used, she would think I was saying she was a Catholic, but in my mind I knew that I didn’t know. I don’t pretend to be psychic and neither were Ti and Do by the way. They said those techniques were actually “tricks” used by the “lower forces”, part of the things done to fool the elect.

I do agree with you that the length of time with anything is not proof of understanding even what we were apart of for that duration and especially applicable with things Biblical because it’s so, so easy and often the case that we are dumbfounded by what we read or think we understand it, but then some time later come back to it, or read someone else’s understanding or interpretation and we can often realize we didn’t understand it as well as we still might.

 The only reason I say I had 19 years of first hand experience with Ti and Do is so it’s clear this is not a second hand witness, thus one might give a little more credence to the experiences I relay about Them, not that one still doesn’t need to test it and challenge it and debate parts. I expect that. I really wouldnt’ not want someone to take my word for it. I’m not trying to persuade though I do feel the evidence I’m mounting is quite persuasive to anyone who is willing to give each piece a genuine consideration. Frankly, I take people’s outright rejection of Ti and Do, as you three have done from day one of my conversations about Ti and Do, which has extended itself from other blogs where I met you three, I believe as some evidence that it’s fearful to be willing to “consider” as you know that if you considered who Ti and Do might well be, then you’d be beginning to get sucked into it further and how upsetting that would be accross the board, in each of your lives and in you own personal skin.

 Maybe “fears” not the correct word, but we have no record in the Bible I’m aware of where Jesus or Moses commanded, “thou shall not examine what someone’s fruits are”, fruit being a huge point to discern, as we’d have to know what Jesus meant by it. Now perhaps you are thinking now, that you have examined the fruit of Ti and Do. Presumably you’ve read all my posts and examined some articles or whatnot somewhere that prompted this latest post claiming it as heracy and you have stated why, having to do with the 7th Angel/trumphet sounding, which I will address shortly following a few more days of study. I’ve been so occupied with so many other parts of revelations and the new and old testement over the last x years, in which no one has ever expressed what you have, so I have not had reason to dig into those depictions of the Kingdom of God’s manefestation of prophecy. So the time is right now I guess but as you know that’s a big topic that like most everything biblical is wrought with contraversy among Christians.

Now, perhaps I have not been clear about my position on Paul, which I believe in part was/is Do’s position though that’s not to say everything I might think/say about Paul can be assumed to be Do’s position as my experience with Do tells me I’d have to bring up to him each position I was taking independently as Do did quote one Paul quote once as his being supportive of it’s coming from the Kingdom of God’s representatives.

Our time with Ti and Do for 10 years and then with Do for the next 9 (for me) seldom had in debth talk about particular scriptures and when there was, it was 99% from the red letters – what Jesus was quoted to have said. Now it was from Do that I got the idea that Saul was entrapped by Lucifer. Do didn’t say why that I recall. Like I said, we had little Bible talk in detail. Now, if that makes you think He is automatically disqualified from being from the Kingdom of God, that’s your choice but if you see how many times Jesus quoted the OT, it didn’t seem to dominate the conversations the disciples noted or repeated that became inscripted.

It was after I had left Do and the group in 1994 and then after they “layed down their physical containers(bodies) that I gradually over years, beginning to come back to talking to Do in my head again and moving into wanting to be in their service again that I began to dig into scripture again.

While with Do, He at times did assign students to dig into scriptures and I was one of those and presented a report to the group on my study of the terms Resurrection, regeneration, raised up once. And while we were on the road, myself with a partner Ti and Do assigned me to spreak their message with, which was in 1975-6 I did a great deal of red letter study and the lost books of the bible and so forth and had many debates with many dozens of church members across the US, which was my biggest burst of bible study at that point in my life.

So when I examined Saul/Paul it wasn’t too hard to see the inconsistancies with Jesus, but that’s because I believed in Do so believed Saul was used by the lower forces to dilute and bring the antichrist (Lucifer and his fallen angels) hatred of the teachings of Jesus to light, by making this hater of Jesus and his disciples into a populist preacher, though any talk of jesus was then unpopular and resulted in Pauls martyrdom, today Paul is I’d say more popular than Jesus in terms of who is quoted more.

Now this being said, doesn’t mean in any shape or form that Paul didn’t become a genuine believer in Jesus and nor does it mean that everything that Paul said was unreferencable to what Jesus said. What so many do which is encouraged by the lower forces is to find one or two reasons to disqualify something to otherwise consider and thereby block all data related to whatever the subject of the data is.

Athesists who hate some of the aspects of religions often deny the planet had to have been created by highly intelligent supreme beings that were called in history the Kingdom of God. Many would rather believe Jesus never existed than consider that what many hate about religion and christianity in particular is those in such religions that demonstrate an absolute certainty that they understand reality, past, present and future, so claim the earth is just 6000 to 7000 years old, when there is lots of scientific evidence it is much older. And then as you know, all the hypocriciies of the organized church in the burning of so called witches and killings in the crusades, etc. which to me were not doing anything close to what Jesus said to think, say and do. It’s what the Luciferians do to try to get humans to see anything but the truth and the Kingdom of God sets this up as part of the formula that helps us “plants” grow. We have this “advasary”(satan) to spar agaisnt to build our armour through, what Ti called a “muscle” and a process like churning the cream to make butter or using great fire to purify the iron ore into steel or to get Gold from the ore.

Now I believe there is lots of evidence that many christians hold to the “word”, the bible in such a way that actually blinds them to the newness that Jesus would represent in any next coming which there is much scriptural evidence of. After all what are the characteristics, according to Jesus of would be false prophets: In summary, some will say they are actually Jesus the Christ. They will appear to be sheep but inwardly will be ravening wolves (after the genuine sheep to trick them to follow them rather than the genuine shepherd). And how do they portray being sheep? They wear sheeps clothing. In other words they appear to us as sheep. No where is that more obvious in many of the religious leaders of any and all faiths, but their fruit gives them away. Their fruit is not just what they say, but what they DO. If they talk about going after Osama Bin Laden because he is a devil to kill him and they call themselves christians then their fruit is certainly not from the “good” tree that came from our Father’s kingdom as we had that old lesson, Thou shall not kill. If they set up a huge institution, a mega church and they trade in real estate and don’t pay taxes and accumulate riches they stash away in banks, are they at all demonstrating the fruit Jesus would say was fruit? No, No, No and that is pretty clear. But if they give humanitarian help to whoever asks then in that way they are demonstrating some of what Jesus said to do in “love your neighbor as yourself”, the term love here must be with action as saying it and not walking the talk is against Jesus who said, “you praise me with your words but your heart is far from me” and many other scriptures. If we lend to someone and charge them interest, we are not demonstrating having Kingdom of God tree fruit.

So if we look at the behavior and ways over 24 years of Ti and Do what will we see? I’m almost willing to bet you and Marianne and hopefull_watcher have never gone to heavensgate.com to see what Ti and Do and students actually said and did over 24 years to determine if it resembled the Kingdom of God’s fruit or does it resemble the kingdom of Human as largly morphed into the kingdom of the luciferians thorns.?

The luciferians try to stick very close to what the Kingdom of God last did on Earth, so they create facsimili leaders. They often talk about Jesus and do humanitarian things and such and if there are some that want to give their all to God, they see to it that an organization exists to give some a way to make their giving their all into an acceptible and even highly esteemed effort. They have schools that teach scripture, (though they stay locked in a very particular opinion/translation about scripture and select primarily the scriptures they can most easily justify for the masses, so the monks,nuns, priests, ministers, bible teachers will be respected and listened to). This way, when the real deal comes again, most will have accepted programming that it could only be real if it happens just this one way.

So what does the kingdom of God do. They come in almost an opposite way as most think and for those that know that the kigndom of god most always comes by taking a human physical body to have a face to face relatinship with it’s students, they see to it that so many come wearing holy garb and lofty soft talk, peaceful demeanor , etc. that there’s hardly a chance to really see the truth, EXCEPT there is always a more than fair and equal chance to see the truth through all the disguises but it won’t be done by the Lord hitting us with a laser light to blind us so that we can know who is boss. That would be a major manipulation. That’s like shining a bright light at a deer and then when they are shocked by it, shooting them down. Jesus said himself he had kept all his Father gave him, the 11. So what did he do, after he ascended into that spacecraft, decide that he needed this one that was seeking to murder those who believed in him?  What was Jesus doing testing his disciples who were trusting him with their very physical and soul lives, to then have Paul come to Jerusalem claiming to be an appointed teacher of Jesus news, when he never sat with jesus,never cried with him or ate with him nor witnesses any of the things he said and did over some 3 1/2 years? No wonder those who were with Jesus were as it says in acts, “afraid” of him. No wonder they didn’t want to appoint him as a teacher(apostle). And then he goes and tells some who he had made into his flock he is an apostle as much as any of the others. And he then tells some to “look to me” as an elder in christ, etc. or for whether to stay married or to be celebate or not like him (putting himself on a pedestal, as we see throughout all the religions and that jesus nailed, which is the reason they often sought to kill him, though he wasn’t ready. He knew His father would let him know when it was exit time.

 He said in John’s gospel, regarding “laying down his life” that “NO MAN TAKES IT FROM ME”. He said HE WAS LAYING DOWN HIS LIFE BECAUSE HIS FATHER ASKED HIM TO. If paul was such an example of an apostle then why in hell didn’t he quote Jesus? Well, one could say, because he didnt’ hear anything Jesus said. But he was with Peter wasnt’ he, assuming that was the same peter that was with Jesus. I believe it was. In fact, I’d bet the few things he did say that sound like signature jesus, as they would be things that he didnt’ get from his study of OT scripture must have come from Peter or one of the other close students which could have been any of the 70+ Jesus sent out.

Paul primarily teaches Pharisee Judism using the name of Jesus, in recognition that he is the messiah and that he really did rise from the dead. He was convinced he was serving jesus. That’s exactly what the Luciferians want to do. In revelations you know who I think is represented by the phrase, “false prophet”? It’s not one person as so many say, just like antichrist doesn’t have one embodyment. It’s the catch all term for all who are religious and spiritual who claim to be a mouthpiece for God or the cosmic christ consciousness whose FRUIT doesn’t match the fruit of the true members from the Kingdom of God.

Now does that mean that all those who call for peace are demonstrating the fruit Jesus was referring to. After all he blesses the peacemakers and said to treat one another peacefullly but he actaully said he didn’t come to bring peace but a sword that sets at varience members in the same family. Why? How could that be the real jesus? Because he was providing a bonding to a new branch, a new family, that was a many membered family, except his relatives were only those that also believed and trusted and sought to become full time servants of the Kingodm of God according to the qualifications of membership laid down and demonstrated since Adam’s “missing of the mark”(sin).

At this point especially Paul’s letters are a major distraction as is much of the OT. Lucifer has christians so confused while they insist they have it all together. Lucifer is the one that made what jesus came to do look like a country club. Many go to the club every sunday and mingle with fellow believers who all feel so good about themselves and being saved so they can count on going to heaven to be with this guy Jesus who loved them so much he let them mutilate and murder him while hardly paying any attention to anythng he actually said to do to be his disciple. But it’s hard to consider what Jesus said. We, our vehicle’s don’t want to look at those things. they are too hard, they are fed by lucifer subconsciously by this idea that “he did it for us” so it’s even an ego that thinks one must EARN their seat in Heaven OR for those that know they must show “works” , we’ll tithe so our missionaries can go to africa to “save” their souls. jesus spoke to those doing that then and said they also would be “standing up again”(ressurecting, one this words primarny meanings), but this time they don’t wear the yamaka and celbrate with a shofar and menora. Now they have added any number of props and for those that knew the props were from Lucifer, like those who left the Catholic fold, they are still potentially trapped by being glued to 2000 yr old terminology that has come through multiple translations but that the Kigndom of God saw to it still held the core teachings of the Kingdom of God but most trustworthy in what’s been termed the red letters of the 4 gospels and anything else that has direct cross references to the same exact thinking and acting, the Fruit.

Revelation 2:2 I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:

Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Henry’s blog post:

http://spiritofdiscernment.wordpress.com/2011/09/21/the-heresy-of-the-heaven%e2%80%99s-gate-cult

L.A. Marzulli’s blog where I have included lots of commenting, but some months ago I decided to give it a rest:

http://lamarzulli.wordpress.com

 

Spirituality, Religion, lessons in Ti and Do’s classroom, Comet Elenin & Red Planet

June 24, 2011

The following comment exchange came about in several ways but I ended up talking a little about Abraham Hicks, and then got into other things pertinent to this person’s messages to me that I believe may be of some interest to you all.

2 Comments I responded to on youtube.com/3spm:

Subject: Re: abraham hicks and the red planet Date: 06/23/11 Re: abraham hicks and the red planet Thank you Sawyer, for the spending of great energy, in order that I remeber (Ti, and Do) purpose, and I do cherish this; your effort’s in writing me this great message, even though I know that you will not give yourself praise, for that, because you are humble, and unusual soul. Yet I want to share with you something that is of great inportance. On September 27 2011, and Octoner 17 2011; there will be a huge Planetary body comming very close to Earth, which will cause devestation to this Planet beyond our imagination, and for those of us who have next level information, to make great use of it, and if we have not completed our human overcoming; then it’s time to do so now. China pointed out in a paper just about a year ago; that there is a huge object intelligently controlled; and following the so called Elenin Comet; only this time there is a Giant Planet which heading this way, also surrounded by what appears to be intelligently controlled object’s. Please remember; the video footage you see in my -Youtube Channel, are genuine footage of two year’s of research I did with a telescope, and a camera; in other word’s these images presented are of a Large Planetary Body, already in our solar system, and causing havoc while on it’s eleiptical orbit. Suppose this is the new marker, or even the marker Do was speaking of?

Subject: Great to know That You Are Still There… Date: 06/23/11 I am very pleased to know that you are still there, since I often wonder, where the memeber are at this point in our lives, and wishing that we would gather as (Do, and Ti’s) crew did; to prepare ourselves for what is comming, but we can not do this on our own, we have to do the best we can as crew member’s by checking on one another, to make sure the we are keeking up with our transitioning phase, as we were taught by our teacher’s, and the only way we to do that is if there is, or make another gathering possible, so that we could keep one another in-check,

Sawyer’s response:

I don’t have any instruction from Ti and Do nor anything they said in their exit statements/video’s or through the many dreams I have had that included Them and/or Classmates(fellow students) where they came to tell me other things, that any gathering of would be students is in their plan.

 I’m not saying that such will not ever happen as it probably will, with or without Ti and Do’s direct instigation. I and others know of the areas Ti and Do most frequented with the class and in their own travels and they said they didn’t feel the Next Level’s closeness when they ventured out of a certain area that was mostly the western US from the mississippi river westward, including Los Angeles (but never spent much time due North of L.A.).

I do expect to be mobile more and more and to spend more time west of Vermont where I am mostly located these days. In the future for however long I’m in this vehicle I may travel by foot, bicycle or auto but not to be with other believers, though if we happen to meet then that’s grand and may be the way Ti and Do bring people together, rather than telling them to go here or there, which Jesus even warned about, though that seemed to apply most to his expected return, that it doesn’t happen in a way we can observe directly or in a way that is proof to our physical vehicles. When the two who told Jesus diciples after he rose into the cloud with his physical body that, “this was the way they always come and go”(paraphrased), it’s pretty clear to me that essentially that was referring to his being PHYSICAL because that always become a major distintion between the lower forces promotion of spirits as significant. However that doesn’t mean all peoples physically SEE with their eyes and furthermore understand what they are seeing in case they do see a falling/crashing spacecraft for instance.

re: the object or objects that I too have seen reported some, and the association with Comet Elenin, due to arrive to Earth as a close pass by (but could easily be guided to strike Earth by the Next Level and may well be such an option if The Next Level feels humans have been given enough time to make up their minds about Ti and Do vs all else to give allegience to. But if they want to give humans more time, there will be another and another and another that can serve the same function. It will happen eventually so people can come up with dates as they see the objects and attempt to shoot at them to destroy or divert them but it will be to no avail, though Russia and China are gearing the people up for the prospect of the last great war, the war in the heaven’s which has it’s literal application but stems from the more important war for souls allegience.

And anyone who wishes to demonstrate their allegience to Ti and Do should do so, not by talk alone but by asking them for service and then doing their best to perform it and then ask again that includes asking detailed help to perform that service as it’s never an easy task. Sure if we assume we are connected and are living by “holy” standards we can easily begin to think we are “in” but whether or not we are, if we don’t continue to recognize how we can still improve, then we simply have low standards. We can always ask for greater challenges, more lessons, tasks to be of more service and we will get them, and we can also ask to have a relaxing of difficulties at times too and we will get that. But over all we must “press” (take by action, what was translated as violence in the New Testement) into Ti and Do’s crew membership. At this time I don’t believe there is any “transition” you speak of but perhaps I don’t know to what you refer. Certainly for those that are still alive in phsyical bodies when that “event” occurs to where all of the coastal cities will be in shambles, though we won’t know about it unless we are in one.,…what we will know is that we need to ask Ti and Do where to go, what to do and for help to do it which will no doubt include helping others and telling others about Ti and Do still. We may be fasting by necessity then. But that’s the primary task now of anyone who wants to be in Ti and Do’s service. Do has already indicated that dissemenation of the information they left behind is the task for those who remained after their exit. I have attempted to offer Christians the opportunity but I have not found a way to speak to the new agers who were most in line to receive Ti and Do’s awareness/mind and the reason the Lower forces have focused so much attention to them with facsimilis of every which way except the most real way. For most either the spirit world(though many are careful not to think of their “working” the spirit world (though that’s the mechanism of any manifestation of one’s vision/focus to get what they want in life as portrayed in video’s like “The Secret”, or looking to the space aliens have become the new agers “god” which is human and self based, who are led to capitalize and misapply a few Jesus quotes.

 The Lower forces will say and do anything to get people to disregard the bulk of what Jesus taught in it’s most literal interpretation (except they like to treat the dreams of John as literal which being dreams are in design metaphores that have literal interpreations that few are willing to look at as they would cease having followers if they taught. So religions are to date clubs and by religion I am speaking of any “belief system” that entails, doing this, and saying that at this time in this way with this intention to this imaginary higher power and you will be among those chosen and awake to then guide others in the same path, while the world around them collapses and they fail to even lift a finger to seek the creators mind convinced they are their own creators or that nothing new can be revealed that’s not in the exact same working/terms as the book to which they subcribe, (Bible, Koran, Gita, etc.) and that our reality came about because of …oneness or some such non-sense (though has it’s overly general accurate application) rather than by the hard tenatious work (worship/service) of organized crews of people that had outgrown all their animal ways, including the one that just likes to sit and watch the grass grow and feel contented. (This is not to say a member of the Next Level doesn’t enjoy their environment, the colors and sounds during space travel, Ti and Do said were fantastic. Nothing becomes less fantastic).

But overall contentment is stagnation for as long as one is content. (One is still content even if they are busy as bees to make more of themselves humanly speaking. Millions of religionists are just that, content thus are not looking for more and thus don’t see it. But someone with a seed of the Next Level is never content really. They are not necessarily stressed out or worried over everything either. They are simply driven to perform, to add to the crews function to be a cog in the wheel and not care about being the lead cog. Every cog is a lead cog and each one remains an individual (actually more an individual than any humans since humans are all time sharing their headspace and activity with the discarnates that influence them most and Next Level members don’t have any discarnates).

In Ti and Do’s group we did ask our partners to help us stay on track which meant to tell us if they see us breaking a procedure or “way” (behavior) of the Next Level. If we all got together, I would automatically fall into a leadership position as people would naturally ask, “how did Ti and Do treat this and that” and I would have something to say for many things from scrambling eggs to washing cars to writing an essay to dealing with sensuality, etc.” Our lessons all came from daily activity.

In many cases a problem would arrise and Ti and Do would give a response and a classmate might suggest another way that’s more efficient to which Ti and Do at times went along with, but then would come back with saying, “we are not trying to do things in the most efficient manner – we seek to give you what our Older Members would have us do/answer.” (sometimes they would say one thing and then come back to us later or the next day and correct what they said) and often for some Ti and Do’s instruction didn’t make sense and may have been been a straw to break the camels back, in other words the decision point to leaving their group.

It would probably make no difference whether we scrambled eggs the way Ti instructed us yet that would become a rule and sure it might work for a bit but then when my vehicle died people would continue to teach those ways and would mimic them and think by doing so they were doing Ti and Do’s will, and in a sense they would be. ( I know I’m back talking myself into a corner here as it is possible that some “active students” who had personal experience with the Older Members incarnate could be of service to Ti and Do in this way, even in the near future.

I actually in my naivity and ego silently asked Ti for such a task (like Do’s), the reason Ti showed me I was not cut out for the job yet, the reason I flunked out, to be here talking to you about it instead of staying with the program that I was being given. I wanted the “important, high prestige task”). I think I have grown some since then but I have not overcome my humanness nearly to the degree needed to perform such a task in a way the Next Level would feel was reflective of giving the best to any new students.

They don’t use people as guinea pigs, to try out a would be teacher on. Not at all. What Older Member would assign a 11th or 12th grader to teach even 6th graders? If the 12th grader hadn’t graduated the Human kingdom yet then they would be far too capable of falling off the wagon and leading that classroom astray and their newly planted soul seeds that are very tender can be lost by such carelessness and I beleive an Older Member would replace that would be teacher before letting that happen but replacing such a teacher is not necessarily an easy thing to do.

Whether or not it could be done and still come out well is besides the point. These are all very, very important tasks the Older Members plan and stragize upon and all have a time frame in which it’s just like a garden – it needs to be tended when the need arrises, not exactly by any clock and there is definitely a point where the fruit can become overripe for harvest. There are many, many factors being weighed that determine an Older Member’s choices thus they seek to get it right the first time and if I were Do I wouldn’t choose Sawyer for that kind of task until he demonstrated a great deal more depenability and abilty to weather the many storms an Older Member incurs that I can say I have received a taste of since leaving my active studentship with Ti and Do (though I think I am at this time attempting to regain some lost ground and have had some indication Do can make use of my service). We are often given tasks and if we didn’t do a good job we lost the task, sometimes indefinitely. A case in point. Ti brought in some crystal goblets that we used for water at dinner time. Everyone had a chance to learn how to treat them gently so not to break any in the washing and drying process. Tllody broke a glass a few times and was taken off the task. He didn’t have sufficient control over his vehicle to be able to do the task well. Was Tllody bad? No! Was he punished? Well, no not really unless losing the task was punishment which to Tllody who liked to serve would have been a dissappointment. Would he get another chance? Probably but maybe not that soon. It depended upon whether Ti and Do got instructions and/or saw changes in Tllody’s ways in other areas that would suggest he had learned to be more careful or not. Tllody’s vehicle was 6’5″ and he was a little clumsy and he had difficulty keeping his brain from rambling to itself. You could often see his lips moving, talking to himself, so he would simply go off of the focus he needed (which was more than others needed due to the characteristics of his vehicle/brain). For Tllody,this was a major feat to overcome/control his vehicle in that way. For me it was sensuality. For another it was anger(alxody). For another it was worring(lvvody). For another competitiveness. For another it was being hype critical or intollerant(nrrody) or having a brain that could run circles around others in conversation and wit or in analysis(srrody) or another sluggishness on and on and with most there were multiple things to work on.

For some when Ti brought in those crystal goblets, they thought, “why is she doing that…why do we need such fancy drinking glasses that are so impractical and costly to boot?” Ti did not explain to us her reasons. She may not have even thought about all the reasons as Ti and Do said they often just knew what to do,what to buy and didn’t question that sense and it was after the fact that they saw why. Other times they knew what they would do would test some in different ways.

In Moses day it was trimming the beard or how to perform the sacrifice or the exact size of the holy of holies and the color of the curtains, etc. on and on. This is not implying Ti and Do had random responses to things that then became prodedures students had to follow. The procedures they instigated were practical solutions though to some not practical enough.

One of the biggest lessons is learning to follow an Older Members lead without question. In the human world that can be a big mistake but even in the human world it has it’s beneift when the leader proves themselves trustworthy. Even an Older Member is a follower. They want to follow their Older Member. Wanting to be a leader is not a Next Level characteristic though an Older Member at times gives such a task to one they believe is ready to do it in a way they can count on being done well, a big part of which is knowing at each step that we can get our Older Member’s intention wrong (which can easily occur when they are operating through a human vehicle, as in Moses, Jesus and Ti and Do), and it’s that sense that creates a type of honing in on the Older Members mind, which is demonstrated/applied by asking and then listening/watching for the clues that have their Older Members signature on them, which they learn over again, though the new human vehicle they take over for each incarnate task they do.

Ti and Do said that this world at this time has become so infested with influences that are contrary to anything Next Level that for anyone to see what’s real through them takes a major effort and by and large that is why Ti came with Do this time. The Luciferian Space Aliens who oppose all things about the Next Level have sought to twist up every possible way anyone could derive the whole truth from the records and that applies to all the records though the Jesus record is the most viable because as Ti and Do said, the Next Level worked very, very hard to insure that the core of the Next Level’s teachings of the formula for qualification for graduation from the Human Kingdom were still in tact to serve to help them awaken to their task and to provide the show of consistancy to help the students.

Yes, many people get pieces and some get many pieces while some develop a following based on those pieces while then becoming glued to their piece and assuming they are also then great seers thereafter, when all they did was get one nibble of truth.

The other day I feel like I got a better glimpse(nibble) of the mindset of a Luciferian space alien; If you ever start talking about Ti and Do as the Father and Jesus returned as the Two Witnesses via spacecraft, for instance, on a Christian or atheist blog, for example, it’s likley that you will get some people do everything they can do to show you how much they hate you and think lowly of you or think you are possessed by a devil and some will think you are dangerous to others (admittedly most who act this way are young and for whatever reason just hate because they were raised in a culture of hate, often in the name or god or antigod, both really boil down to the same thing now). They will often throw you out of their blog just like they would do if you walked through the doors of their place of worship saying the same things and they will say/think they are getting rid of you as a service to their God, (destroying evil(trouble to their continuence)) or if it’s an atheist gathering that you are dangerous because you are a genetic mutation that could believe we were created (and both have in their genes a history of getting rid of those that threaten their status quo).

Now the other side of the same coin of hate is despondency aka ignoring hearing or investigating or considering what you have to say, where eyes glaze over as sometimes it is too much to process but is also a defense mechanism to hiding behind wanting to maintain one’s place of peace in a world they see as so corrupt it’s unbearable to exist within, which is certainly a sign of a soul’s ripeness but if it gets so ripe that they cling so to their make and model of “belief” that keeps them in their happy place, then they have become overripened while the others are either underripe or not even on the same branch (as the Luciferian fallen space aliens have created their own genetic mutation/strain that has had any Kingdom of God mind bred out of them or mutated to look similar but be actually miles apart as in the difference between the tares and the wheat. On the outside they look like sheep – they act kind, they believe in peace and value loving relationships and are largely tolerant of others diverse choices, all characteristics of someone nearing readiness to graduate. They are gentle and have compassion for others sufferring and may be very non-violent. They may stand on a stage and cry about their love for Jesus or God but should you try to offer them a new glimpse, at times you will see that countenence change on the fly into no less than a wolf looking to attack.

It was the religious leaders who stood to lose their followers who supported them, who primarily tried to kill Jesus many times and when Jesus was ready got their wish.

My personality has been such that I’m very likable which makes it difficult to tell the truth because of how the truth as I see it through what Ti and Do have provided me/us might find someone disliking me as a result. This is not a problem at this time in these conversations though I am affected when someone curses me out but the idea of getting up before a group and talking about the very unpopular Ti and Do story (by myself) though I have some history doing with classmate support and all it’s ramifications that no human vehicles really want to hear puts me on the firing line of dislike.

So for me to do that at this time is a challenge to undertake. I tried at one point to set up meetings, like at a library, as we did during the two periods fo time we were sharing info and accepting new members, but for one reason or another nothing panned out as today even libraries charge for rooms, but I need to re-evalulate doing this again though I have found a way to do this when I play music on the street and sometimes talk during the music. But wow do I feel darts coming at me when I do that, even if there are no people in sight as the discarnates hate hearing about Ti and Do, I guess because I’m saying they were the Father and Jesus returned and those who died thinking that impossible and bent on religious programming then see me as their advasary.

I’m learning to ask Ti and Do to help clear the area of discarnates because I know many times when I’m playing the flute for instance people are just walking by and discarnates are holding their ears in case they may pay attention to me and like it and inquire as to whomever is producing it and perhaps learn about Ti and Do in the process.

Other times I know people are just preoccupied with their own thoughts and activities and don’t like what I’m doing in particular. I’m getting off topic here but what seems to work best is to not talk so much as then the influences don’t have ammo against me and don’t try to distract someone from paying attention to me and my music as if they pay attention they will either tip me or stop to say something and even seek to buy a cd (that has a mix of music and story telling songs related to the Next Level on it, that I often give away if the person either likes the music or seeks new info), in which case I often talk about Ti and Do in response to something they ask me. It’s the old Jesus quote of ask and you shall receive, etc. If someone isn’t looking, searching, thirsty to know more, have more experiences, learn more, give more…then during that time period they have blocked their potential future to have a concrete relationship with the Next Level.

Christians whom many would assume to be the first in line are at this time most often last in line, if even on the line. Of course it’s a case by case basis and I’m not the judge of anyone else’s status with the Next Level except if they are lying about Ti and Do or what the Jesus record states.

Q&A re how fallen angels walk among us now & ti and do=second coming two witnesses father and jesus

May 11, 2011

from L.A. Marzulli’s Blog

Tee said
May 7, 2011 at 4:16 pm
ok, can anyone explain to me this? i understand that the fallen ones used to walk with us but how would a spirit aka fallen angels be able to walk with us openly? would our eyes be opened to a spiritual realm or would they somehow create a hybrid body that they could take over and use? thanks

to which sawyer responded:

All beings on earth are like leaves on a tree. Those that fell also. When we die the spirit of that leaf continues – is referred to as a spirit. They never walk with us as they did while having a physical body, but the tree produces new leaves and those new leaves are from the same vine, one that is constantly accumulating new data from each leaf that lives so each new leaf becomes an extension of all the data that has passed through that vine/branch. Also, the ones who fell impregnated women right – see genesis 6. When a male passes it’s seed to any female egg, they are passing ALL of what they had become physically and mentally up until that point of conception. Thus having fallen from God’s grace, they pass that on to their young along with why. Those children were thereby programmed to be rebellious against the Kingdom of God and even to hate or be in competition with the KIngdom of God, even thinking they were equal to the Kingdom of God and are thus God’s themselves. Hence the new age movement spoken of as “ye are gods” which was popularized in the early 70’s, a height in spiritual/new age thinking and practice in the US but common in eastern countries. There is a reason that occurred in the US as it was the forerunner to the arrival and trumphet blowing by those known as Ti and Do who did so officially and received global recognition in October of 1975.

Now a mistake many christians make is thinking that because of this “new age” trap of thinking of ourselves as gods, or children of God or God is within us,thus we are gods, christians think ALL things and all terminology that doesn’t conform to exact biblical terminology is new age and is also related to the fallen ones origin.

The fact is all things are subject to the fallen ones influnece over us but that is where it is absolutely necessary to seek, ask God with our mouth/brain, in private for help and that asking shouldn’t stop at our private prayer to God because God often uses our fellow human beings to bring us answers BUT nor should we just believe everything that comes to us as we should forever test it. Now testing it is also a continuous process. We don’t often know how to “test” something carefully. For instance if someone talks about reincarnation, we can think – oh, that’s hindu and buddhist and since it’s not a word we see in the christian or jewish bible and is new agey it must be from the fallen ones and thus is evil to my ears.

But there are many references to a “re-gen(us)-eration and when Jesus said before Abraham, He was, indicates he lived before and Jesus said to his disciples they would be back so they could be where he was going and Jesus spoke about John the Baptist being the prophesized coming of the Isiah messenger yet John the Baptist according to Jesus was not a member of the Kingdom of God as Jesus said he was the greatest human but that even the least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than john, and Jesus also said the evil and the just would be resurrected. He wasn’t saying the evil would be lifted up to the kingdom of heaven right, so resurrected must have meant something else and as we see in strongs it really meant “to stand up again” literally as from a laying down state. So Jesus was saying all would stand up again and be judged, so did he mean stand up in spirit form. Well that’s what some want us to believe which is why he said it in different ways. Back to the leaves. Every leaf “stands up for” what it has become.

So now in this “last day” (~1000 yr period) we have both a physical and a mental/spiritual/figurative “literal standing up of the leaves who stand up for what they believe and in doing so are deciding who their master is, God or Mammon. Mammon is everything human – wealth of things, body and mind(intellect)/ego) – a humans treasure while God’s people for one reason or another will not find themselves so engulfed in such human status as having all that status makes it near impossible to get out of it. The rich man could not enter the kingdom of God – why – because he would never, ever, ever change his mind about what gives him satisfaction and purpose and future and value in his and others’ mind in order to be willing to literally hook up with the soul that was Jesus (who said not to trust anyone who comes in his name(jesus), which is why pauls words are so often contrary to what Jesus said/did, because Paul was largely influenced by a fallen angel – kingdom of God never mesmerizes and gives that kind of proof to a prospective member(student) to Their family/kingdom as those who are mesmerized into service often become robots, though they will mouth some “truth” though it will be mixed with distortions, even subtle ones that today is the biggest criteria that defines most christian groups – paul’s teachings which are largly his judaic interpretation while accepting Jesus as messiah which got him persecuted and thus looked like the equivilent of the real disciples.

The fallen ones and their seed do walk among us all the time and they are on pulpits and in synagogues and mosques and churches of all the religions and they are atheistic and are spiritual teachers and gurus of the himilayan religious sects using the term god this or allah this or krishna this or buddha that or jehovah this and you know it all – just like jesus said would be the case at this time – people saying words but not understanding or seeking to understand what those words “plainly mean” as Jesus said when he came back he would no longer speak in parables but would speak plainly of the FAther (what the FAther gives him to say about the Kingdom they are from) and this has been done IF you can receive it, but don’t take my word for it – test it but test it thoroughly and test it against everything you know of the Kingdom of God’s record in the bible but if you stop at assuming the translators did it all right, then you will find things that they will say (and all the book writers that say what this and that means) negates these two witnesses from rev 11.

But this is why I’ve constructed a 12 part video series that just touches the surface of these two members (christs) from the kingdom of God who came in 1973 and left in 1997 but who maintain a presense to date, and for a short time longer. Some christians are examinging ti and do and some have got down on their hands and knees and asked God what the truth is and have been shown some things 99% probably will never accept as it’s certainly a huge step to begin to accept. Scrutinize Ti and Do’s every word and action. Compare what they said/did against all Jesus said and did and all moses said and did (which is hard to find that much detail but since I was with them for 19 years if you ask I’ll try to give you what might answer your question) but if you don’t try and open up to considering because of beign brainwashed into thinking jesus couldn’t/wouldnt’ come and be called a dangerous cult again then look at jesus again and again and again to see that he must be seen as a dangerous cult. NO one of the heaven’s gate group who laid down their lives for the one called jesus then, but Do now were tricked or led astray and I can prove it. The question is who will be brave enough and trusting enough of God to put it to a thorough test BEFORE deciding one way or the other.

That will be your judgement, your decision and God allows everyone the free will to choose but this is not to be taken lightly or frivilously.

The space aliens are looking to keep even the elect from seeing the true nature of the kingdom of god and they create facsimili’s of what they have experience knowing is a general way of the kingdom of god, thus all kinds of luciferian influneces cults came to the fore in the 60’s and 70’s, again right before ti and do came public in the common square of the public media and were shot down as frauds and thieves but who “stood up” again on their feet and continued their task of eventually ascending into the heaven when the hale bopp comet showed the timing for them to exit their physical containers to allow their souls to be born, a real spirit/soul birth, not a christain make believe born again and anybody and their broher think is as easy as mouthing some words and trying to be a better person.  Ovecoming is tough work and works are needed as the kingdom of God doesn’t need people to sit around and bow to them all day. That’s part of the luciferan disinformation.

It’s not anyone’s fault for believing any of this UNTIL they’ve had a chance to see through it which is NOW! Give it your best.

Ti Do and students blowing of the trumphet of Father/Son Arrival

March 30, 2011

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Questions about Ti and Do’s Heaven’s Gate early days:
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1) This is really good information. I’d like to know a little more about that book TI and DO wrote while in Boerne, before they hit the road in 1973. Did this book have characters, a story, a plot, settings? Did anything happen in the story?

2) The details you’ve given here on the meetings and groups splitting up is good. I’m wondering about the timeline. I’m sorry, but it’s a little confusing to follow.

3) Did Bo and Peep take their names and give the Class names at the same time? When was that?

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Sawyer’s response:
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1) The book was not in story form at all. It was like a lecture on the times mostly from Ti’s perspective, a Theosophical perspective that brought in both Hindu Vedic examples and Jesus examples. The setting was their both awakening but that wasn’t laid out in it. It wasn’t like an autobiography. It was a revelation but without all the figures/stories representations – just plain no nonsense talk which was Ti’s Motis Operandi.

2) The timeline for splitting up was pretty well documented. It was mid October when the news broke nationally saying the mysterious two were the two thieves applwhite and nettles. I recall that because there was a hoax meeting of the group announced at a book store in San Francisco or perhaps it was Berkley to be held on October 31st, Halloween that I went to. I don’t recall how I found out about it as the group I was in by then had broken up, though most of us agreed to meet at that book store. So there were a bunch of us milling around the book store that night and there learned a meeting had been organized at the park in Berkley a few days later which I attended as did others from my group but was organized by a group headed by Jwnody and her partner who never became an ody. Jwnody was actually pregnant at that time though didn’t seem to show much yet. A bunch of people joined from that Berkley meeting including Rkkody and rthody whose house I stayed at for a few days before heading to a Mt. Diablo camping area where new members and some slightly lesser new members were camping. There wern’t many members there who actually were with Ti and Do as I recall around the campfire telling people everything They had said and did up until we split up in Chicago. My partner was dndody then who came into the group from waldport meeting as well, as did her partner prkody who was partnered at first in Colorado with my partner in the world later named srfody (sarah). Dndody left while still in Texas in the early 80’s I’d guess. Prkody left in around 1992 and has since died.

The meeting Dndody and I and our group and another group who had traveled out there that included jnnody, gave at Worchester Public Library that was full and held about 200 people was I say, in late November of 75 as I recall heading up to Montpelier, VT from Worchester to try to organize a meeting that we never pulled off for various reasons and I recall there were 6 of us in a van eating cold canned veggies and sleeping under the stars upon which one morning I awoke covered with snow. That was a difficult time and some of the newer members who had never met Ti and Do from the berkley area, one named Lightborn and the other called himself John the Baptist, but mostly Lightborn was very disruptive, and insisted on his way. At one point I told him to leave the group as every decision was an argument.

Funny that from Montpelier, we, Dndody and I, as the last car we had broke down in Vermont actually which caused us some grief when the police picked us up and took us to the station and were going to file charges of abandoning a vehicle, ended up riding with Lightborne and the John the Baptist fellow. (by the way, many chose biblical names but he was the only one I’d heard of who took john the baptist as a name.  I was phillip for long while but often changed it. Dndody was Dandy then.

All four of us were headed south and it wasn’t long to where the car broke down and we were in a sense relieved as we hitchhiked away from the other two. Dandy and I didn’t stop until we got to Brownsville, Texas and we were still cold sleepign in our sleeping bags. It was when we passed through Corpus Christi that I had a significant (to me) “ufo” sighting over the gulf when we were bedding down (seperatly of course) on the beach just south of the city limits. It was a huge bright light bigger than any star, like 4 large stars in size that steaked as fast as a meteor parrellel to the water starting at about a 45 degree angle from the north headed due south and when it was moreorless adjacent to me but like at a 60 degree angle upwards it did a seemingly exact 90 degree turn thus appeared to head directly into the water but it didn’t go that far. It went maybe 20 degrees downwards and did a second 90 degree sharp turn so it was headed south again until it was out of sight. I heard nothing and dandy missed it as it was start to finish over in approx. 3 seconds max as it went out of sight to the south. I remember thinking, “I wonder if there was anybody in that craft” as I felt it was. (by the way, I had not joined to get a ride on a ufo as some did, who did not stay very long, when it didn’t happen soon enough). I believed in UFO’s but didn’t know what I was believing in. It was like my belief at that time in a reality to spirits aka ghosts. I’d never encountered one exactly yet it seemed obvious to me that they existed. It was only a few year ago, around 2004 that I had two so called ghost sightings I could not deny and lots of lessor sightings that may be my eyes playing tricks on me though I tend to think not.

We held a small meeting in Brownsville and then headed north again and then visited with Dnody’s friends in Houston for a few days. Dndody was missing parker and was having a hard time of it by then but stayed with me though I was like a bull in a china shop filled with evengelical zeal so we headed towards florida along the gulf and when we got to panama city we stayed at a shelter and saw a poster on the telephone pole outside the shelter advertisign a meeting that looked like the same info we were a part of so we attended and listened to these two young men talk about Bo and Peep having never met them.

Some people in the audience asked about the people in waldport that dissappeared to join a ufo that last september to which these two didn’t know about as they had joined from somewhere else from a student held meeting. So hearing that Dandy and I stood up and announced we were two from the waldport meeting and the other two then invited us to join them in giving the meeting. They had a little sports car so we couldn’t ride with them so we agreed to head back to texas to do more meetings together and we did meet near austin and they decided to go it alone and I then got it into my head that we shouldn’t limit our “ministry” to texas due to the winter, so reluctantly dandy agreed as we headed north until we got to madison, WI where we organized a small meeting and had many talks and a few small meetings on the way.

From madison we began criss crossing from west to east and then east to west moreorless following highways and going further south each time we got to the mississippi, we’d take another road north or south and head back as far as denver. We would check churches for open doors and knocked on many doors, slept in the bushes around the Austin capital ground, stayed in shelters, stayed with people who picked us up and offerred their homes, were given a motel occasionally and sometimes money and other times food vouchers and all along we talked about bo and peep and jesus and the next Level if someone seemed curious enough and at times were told to leave a church or two as they said we were possessed by the devil.

We gave a meeting in Liberal, Kansas where we went to the newpaper and they wrongly published an article saying we, phillip and dandy were the two witnesses that included advertisign our meeting. I remember thinking, what if someone wants to kill the two, are they going to try to do so to us so at that start of the meeting, though I felt ready to die for the cause, I announced that the paper got it wrong. I don’t think anybody cared though most everyone knew from the news who we were apart of.

I remember it was spring and we were sleeping outdoors in Misourri or maybe it was arkansas at night I began to plead to the god in the heavens to be shown where to go and what to do. (At that point Ti and Do didn’t instuct us to look to them exclusively. They said to tell others and to think ourselves as speaking to members of the next level who are as far away into the heaven’s as we can imagine, in order to have less a chance for a discarnate to intercept our plea/prayer).

The next day or certainly within a couple we were going to the library in Oklahoma city and saw a poster adversitign a meeting so we attended and it was Bo and Peep with 6 classmates, some of whom we had met giving the meeting. So we got to meet with Ti and Do who seemed happy to see that we were still at it.

From that point on we were assigned a group. Apparantly by then there were about 6 groups still giving meetings town to town. We were sent to join one and it was headed by a partnership of Mark (mrcody and Jwnody(who by then was very pregnant)). In fact it was maybe a few weeks later that they, Mark who also went by Phillip then and june left the group to go to a small commune who wanted the baby to deliver the baby, which they did and I didnt’ see them til a month later.

This is when Ti cancelled the “harvest”. It was April 19th 1976 at a meetign that she made the announcement. Attendance was way off by then. We didnt’ immedieatly learn of the harvest closing so did several more meetings and then we had instruction to each spend concentrated time (nearly a week) pulling silently on what’s next for us and seeking to prepare to cleanse/focus our minds on our personal overcoming. We were in ST. Louis outskirts then and got word to all gather in Wyomign at veedavou campground in the Medicine Bow National forest.

This was the official beginning of the classroom. We gathered on July 4th 1976 at Veedavou.

3) I can’t actually say for sure which names came first, the change from Bo/Peep to Do/Ti (originally spelt Te) or our first ody names but my guess is Theirs came first but nearly at the same time for sure thus, I want to say 1977 as I believe it was after we’d spent the winter of 76 in Texas and had traveled back north to Wyoming where they leased some land from a big rancher.

Mark and Sarah both have or did have excellent memories so could probably pinpoint this time near exactly. This is the kind of thing that my memory can easily get confused about whereas concepts and instructions and verbal communications and their intent have always seemed to remain fairly strong in my memory.