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Astronomers say they’ve spotted lonesome planet without a sun

October 12, 2013

A friend sent this article and I had just posted some thoughts on how the Next Level could drag/bring a planet to a specific location to set it in motion as a part of a solar system the way humans put satellites in orbit. I’m not saying this is what this is but it is a curiosity for sure.

Astronomers say they’ve spotted lonesome planet without a sun
Alan Boyle, Science Editor NBC News
Oct. 9, 2013 at 8:39 PM ET
Image: PSO J318.5-22.
V. Ch. Quetz / MPIA
An artist’s conception shows the planetary-mass object PSO J318.5-22.
Eighty light-years from Earth, there’s a world that’s just six times more massive than Jupiter, floating all alone without a sun to keep it warm, astronomers reported Wednesday.
Such free-floaters have been reported before, but in the past, it hasn’t always been clear whether these were orphaned planets or failed stars. This time, the scientists say they’re sure it’s a planet.
“We have never before seen an object free-floating in space that that looks like this,” team leader Michael Liu of the Institute for Astronomy at the University of Hawaii at Manoa said in a news release. “It has all the characteristics of young planets found around other stars, but it is drifting out there all alone. I had often wondered if such solitary objects exist, and now we know they do.”
The heat signature of the world, known as PSO J318.5-22, was identified by the Pan-STARRS 1 wide-field survey telescope on Haleakala, on the Hawaiian island of Maui. The light coming from the object is about 100 billion times fainter in optical wavelengths than the planet Venus. Most of its energy is emitted in infrared wavelengths.
In a report being published in Astrophysical Journal Letters, Liu and his colleagues said the object has properties similar to those of gas-giant planets found orbiting young stars.
Past reports of “rogue planets” have been murky, due to the fact that it can be hard to discriminate between large planets and a class of failed stars known as brown dwarfs. Some astronomers insist on a definition of planets that would apply only to objects that form around stars. They’d prefer to call objects like PSO J318.5-22 “planetary-mass objects,” or planemos for short.
PSO J318.5-22 was discovered while the researchers was combing through data from Pan-STARRS 1 for readings from brown dwarfs. Brown dwarfs are typically faint and red, but Liu and his colleagues said PSO J318.5-22 stood out because it was redder than the reddest known brown dwarfs.
Image: PSO J318.5-22
N. Metcalfe & Pan-STARRS 1 Science Consortium
A multicolor image from the Pan-STARRS 1 telescope shows the free-floating planet PSO J318.5-22, in the constellation of Capricornus.
They followed up with observations using the Gemini North Telescope and the NASA Infrared Telescope Facility telescopes on the summit of Hawaii’s Mauna Kea, and concluded that its infrared signature was more consistent with a young planetary-mass object. The science team also monitored the object for two years using the Canada-France-Hawaii Telescope, to determine its direction of motion and its distance from Earth. That’s how they figured out it was 80 light-years away.
The team concluded that PSO J318.5-22 is associated with a collection of young stars called the Beta Pictoris moving group, which formed about 12 million years ago. The best-known star in that group, Beta Pictoris, is known to harbor a gas-giant planet that’s about eight times as massive as Jupiter.
Gravitational perturbations may have kicked PSO J318.5-22 out of its planetary cradle soon after it was born, or it may have been formed by a different method. Either way, Niall Deacon of the Max Planck Institute for Astronomy in Germany, a co-author of the study, said PSO J318.5-22 should help scientists get a better understanding of other planets that aren’t quite as lonely.
“Planets found by direct imaging are incredibly hard to study, since they are right next to their much brighter host stars,” Deacon said in the news release. “PSO J318.5-22 is not orbiting a star, so it will be much easier for us to study. It is going to provide a wonderful view into the inner workings of gas-giant planets like Jupiter shortly after their birth.”
More about free-floating planets:
‘Orphan’ planet found near Earth
Billions of stars capture rogue planets
Was giant planet kicked out of our solar system?
In addition to Liu and Deacon, authors of “The Extremely Red, Young L Dwarf PSO J318-22: A Free-Floating Planetary-Mass Analog to Directly Imaged Young Gas-Giant Planets” include Eugene Magnier, Katelyn Allers, Trent Dupuy, Michael Kotson, Kimberly Aller, W.S. Burgett, K.C. Chambers, P.W. Draper, K.W. Hodapp, R. Jedicke, R.-P. Kudritzki, N. Metcalfe, J.S. Morgan, N. Kaiser, P.A. Price, J.L. Tonry and R.J. Wainscoat.
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Did Romans make up the entire New Testament to steal the people’s loyalty

October 12, 2013

Did Romans make up the entire New Testament to steal the people’s loyalty?

I just saw an article about a book that is saying the Romans made up the entire New Testament to, like you suggested control the people to get them to behave, which is not the first time I’ve seen that thinking of course but it will continue to be broadcast by the major media, even NPR (who would have guessed NPR…lol) as an affront to Christians and here’s the thing about that idea… not that I disagree with the premise, because that’s exactly what took place officially under Constantine…he captured what was a new cult movement and made it into a Hollywood cult movement – interesting how that term cult is used in one way to be a put down, scary evil, ugly premise of a “subversive culture” and on the other hand is looked up to as indicative of popularity. More evidence of how the truth is bastardized in every way shape and form in the name of …whatever one wants it to be in the name of, but anything but the facts, the truth of what really was said or done to stimulate it’s start, which brings me back to my point about this book…

So a group of Romans made up the entire new testament, he says to control people? Then why in hell don’t the people adhere to what the main presumed “teachings” put forth by jesus in that written record, fact or fiction, if that was going to capture their loyalty and keep them from rebelling against the government because they are unhappy with what the government is doing…keep them placated?

Why is it that Pauls writings became the doctrine of Christianity? Isn’t that interesting the Paul was a proclaimed Roman and was in league with a “group” of …high priests who had it in for Jesus and his followers as the story goes. So why did this author suggest that Romans conspired to create the story when in the story it says the high priests led the whole episode against Jesus and his followers, with Paul as their intelligence guy led to believe he was now one of them, as the story goes, by the blinding light and voice of jesus, he was told. Another author suggests that paul was a conspirator who made up the story about being blinded by the light that forces his awakening to stop his persecution, but that’s beside the point here.

Wouldn’t one expect to see Jesus talking about all the things Christians believe today or that they came to believe whenever it was that the first manuscripts or papyrus were created? Were they that shrewd to think the people would be fooled better if they said in Jesus the very opposite of what they would come to believe and do?

For instance, Jesus was totally against (for his students that is) any loyalty to their human family and Paul doesn’t really touch that either, except where Paul says if you can’t keep it in your pants stay married to one – the rule before Jesus suggested even lust in thought was repeating the diversion of one’s total love from the Lord, that the adultery rules were geared to instigate as giving one’s loyalty to one.

If the people had followed that Jesus storyline, they would have given no loyalty to the roman government nor the jewish government. If anything they would have given more loyalty to the roman government under Jesus teachings as he said if you were going to uses ceasars money pay the taxes he demands of you and if you find yourself in a problem with the government seek to get along with them or else you’ll find yourself locked up. And in the story, the gov’t was trying to wash their hands of murdering the guy, though on that front of course the romans would want to paint themselves as not going along entirely with the jewish leaders as they did want to keep the peace with the religious because the religious did have control over many of the people that were anti-government prone, at least in theory while in bed with the government at the same time, the way it is now with the religious in more or less all nations.

And if this roman group made it all up, when did they do it, I wonder and did it include the manufacture of documents in the old testament as well as so much of what they alleged made up was directly linked to the Old Testament, but then I guess one could say they tailored their Jesus figure from the Moses figure, but then if so, why select certain things Moses allegedly recorded and have Jesus giving them a different slant that is frankly anti the previous religion to Christianity (their creation) – Judism as it had become, just as distorted as Christianity which is just as distorted as Hindu is today from it’s Vedic records, etc. But I guess the Egyptians or Indians each had their conspiracies to create religious stories to steal the people and not cause them to revolt against the governments, which is another nutty way of looking at it in light of the way religiosity has been one of the primary motivations to war on others, controlling not only the poor who generally trust the institutions whether secular or religious as seen in the crusades, and to date with the G.W. Bush “crusade” against Islam (while in bed with the Saudi Arabians).

The bottom line is that it’s easy to control the masses but the most effective way is not through religions, at least from the human perspective is with economics and propaganda and staged sting operations – like the Trojan horse, the gulf of Tonkin “attack”, the blowing up of the Reichstag, stimulating and then looking the other way to allow the pearl harbor attack, assassinations of kings as in supposedly the reason WWI started or manipulating any event to sway public opinion, in combo with the promoted media and Hollywood help, for examples many.

But making up a story to brainwash the people into conformity by promoting disconformity on the one hand (jesus teachings) and juxtaposing a conformity of the disconformity (Pauls teachings) that ends up going world wide and lasting for millennium to where the later conformity of the original disconformity becomes the rule when the original disconformity was frankly unpopular with most everyone to begin with would be the ultimate kind of deceptivity (if that’s a word).

I guess one could say, it was and that humans can be very shrewd and that it had unexpected results but if one is making up an unbelievable story (all Jesus taught) that goes against everything of human nature, where does such an idea come from…?

Maybe it’s like the amoeba crawling out of the sea on it’s fins that by the strength of it’s desire to survive, not finding survival in it’s primordial soup adequate, wills the mutation of it’s dna to morph those little cilia – into fins, into legs so it can crawl around to find food. It’s a premise some attach to, as the alternative they think is to think some bearded fellow who sits on clouds waved his magic wand to create, each extreme of which has it’s points as there is evidence of adaptation of creatures to new environments (though hardly seen in drastic environmental changes, like an ocean coming to be in an area previous a desert…those land creatures just die off if there is that kind of flood. If it happens gradually, they move on rather then morph back to fins from legs and on the other hand there is all this folk law about things in the sky, powerful beings over humans, with cave drawings of tanks and helicopters and ancient paintings of people riding inside comets, etc. in various cultures so why not consider that that is a feasible explanation for a great deal of stuff that has no better explanation as humans kind of hate not having the security of thinking they understand and thereby have a certain control of at least their mental world.

But finally, I suggest that, this premise is actually largely correct but only able to hold more weight if one brings into it yet another wild idea few care to consider, that the religions to include Christianity were largely the creation of the Luciferian fallen angel space aliens seeking to turn humans away from the facts, the truth about their reality to keep them anestisized and functioning as humans so they would have their usage to provide their dna needs and to stimulate increasing technology advancement for all their needs; energy elements and systems, facility to travel in space (to escape the rumored end of the current civilization, that some of them experienced before on Earth and/or other near planets or relatively near solar systems of their or their ancestral origin. In other words they NEED human slaves. Any true creators of all we term nature don’t NEED any of it for their survival. If they know how to terraform a planet to become an environment for multiple species of life within evolutionary framework, they hardly NEED humans help as evidenced by what the many space alien abductee/contactee accounts have suggested over the last 70 years since the space alien premise was making itself more evident, though as with all forms of thought, equally available to deny so it all becomes a need to know basis.

If any of us show a “need to know” the evidence is plentiful that provides us with the choices that we can then build a discernment of which most often will show us what’s NOT likely the closest view of what’s true and real about any circumstance and thinking.

Like even the likes of Christopher Hitchens in his put down of those that are willing to believe the Earth was created in 7 “god” days, or periods of time as opposed to the 3.5 billion year theory based on this or that carbon and/or spectrographic dating etc. doesn’t seem to take account of what actually constituted that “creation”. Why couldn’t the big bang happened at a faster pace than humans can currently imagine and evidence? Do humans know everything about time and space and terraforming and big bangs? And what’s the value of measuring that in terms of years anyway. That entire frame of measurement is based on the amount of time carbon or it’s electromagnetic signature degrades. But isn’t that based on the Earth’s current atmosphere, current being over the last 1000 years even and in some relationship with the other electromagnetic bodies in the solar system seen or not? How do we know the sun can not be like a computer system to put out electromagnetic particles together with comets and meteors and asteroids, etc. to introduce major changes to Earth’s atmosphere that might make things have a signature that is older than it is.

And what if the Earth was literally moved into orbit of the sun. Humans now know how to put a body in orbit of another. If that was the case would that constitute having “made” the Earth if it was actually constructed or grown in some other location and moved to this one when it came time to start a new “garden”, thus explaining how it could be x in age while the start of the experiment x in age?

What’s that saying about people in glass houses and their stones?

Planet About To Be Recycled – Your Only Chance To Survive

October 9, 2013

Planet About To Be Recycled – Your Only Chance To Survive
– Leave With Us
Edited Transcript of Videotape – October 5, 1996:
This is a very exciting time for us. Who is us? I’m “Do”
(pronounced “Doe”) for starters, and I have in front of me a
number of students, or my classroom, or in old language of a
couple of thousand years ago, my disciples – those who are trying
to prepare themselves for entry into the Evolutionary Level Above
Human, synonymous with the Kingdom of God, the Kingdom of
Heaven. We’re going to talk to you about the most urgent thing
that is on our mind, and what we suspect is the most urgent thing
on the minds of those who will connect with us.
We’ll title this tape, “Planet Earth About to be Recycled –
Your Only Chance to Evacuate is to Leave With Us.” Planet
Earth about to be recycled – Your only chance to survive or
evacuate is to leave with us. Now, that’s a pretty drastic statement
– pretty bold – in terms of religion, inn terms of anybody’s
intelligent thinking. To most people who would consider
themselves intelligent beings, they’d say, “Well, that’s absurd.
What’s all this doomsday stuff? What’s all this prophetic,
apocalyptic talk?” You know, intelligent human beings should
realize that all things have their own cycle. They have their
season. They have their beginning, they have their end. We’re
not saying that planet Earth is coming to an end. We’re saying
that planet Earth is about to be refurbished, spaded under, and
have another chance to serve as a garden for a future human
Now, the reason this is such an interesting time is not
only because we’re on the threshold of the end of this civilization
(because it’s about to be recycled), but because of where that finds
us, and where that finds you – where that finds those who would
judge us – how we would speak of them, and how they would
speak of us. Now, you might say, “You keep saying `us’? Who
do you think you are?” Well, I, in all honesty, to address that must
first acknowledge who my Father is. My Father is not a human
father. My Father is a member of the Evolutionary Level
Above Human – the Kingdom of God – the Kingdom of
Heaven. My Father – long before this civilization began – gave
me birth into that Kingdom Level Above Human, that Kingdom of
Heaven, that Kingdom of God.
Now, you can say, “I can’t believe that!” Well, it’s up to
you whether you believe that or not. That’s not important to me,
even though I wish that you could believe it for your sake. For
those who do believe it stand a possibility of having a future
beyond this recycling time. Now, you say, “According to religious
literature, I thought there was someone else who was going to
come and be our “Savior” here at these last days – that that was
going to be Christ’s return?” Well, the name “Christ” or the name
“Jesus” might be a little confusing. Because the name “Jesus,” of
course, was merely the name given to the body that that mind (that
was indeed from the Kingdom of Heaven) incarnated into. That
mind was here 2000 years ago, and that mind came for the express
purpose of teaching humans how they could be “saved”- how they
would not be plowed under at the End of the Age. Well, we’re
now at the End of the Age. So that mind that was in Jesus –
What? That mind, that spirit, that soul is me, and in this body
called “Do” that you’re looking at? You’ll have to decide that
for yourself. I must admit that I am here again. That I’m here
saying exactly the same thing that I said then, trying to say it in
today’s language, trying to hope that, for your sakes, you can
see what we have to offer you. For the Next Level, through my
Father and through me, is offering you LIFE for the first time
– and we’re not talking about human lifee.
Now, the planet is about to be recycled, and we say we
see the planet as a steppingstone – planet Earth as a steppingstone.
Just as with a civilization, that civilization can evolve upwards –
each segment within that civilization has the option to become
more civilized, less barbaric. It would be better for them if they
took more civilized options. Not that they necessarily do.
Sometimes they seem to appear to be more civilized when, in fact,
they have become more barbaric, more quick to condemn the rest
of the world, more quick to kill the rest of the world that does not
think as they think.
Well, I know what I said a few moments ago. I said that
I am the return of the Son of my Father. I’ll tell you something
that’s even more remarkable: my Father came with me this
time. He came in the early `70’s, took on a human form – an adult
female human form. He helped me “get into” an adult human
form, in the early `70’s. And we together helped those who came
with us (our students, who were also here 2000 years ago as
disciples) get in the bodies that they are presently wearing – so that
they could rid themselves of human behavior, human activity,
human thinking – so that they could be ready at this time to move
into the Kingdom of Heaven or the Evolutionary Level Above
These that are sitting before me have been students of Ti
and Do – Ti, my Father – and they are still students of Ti and Do,
even though Ti returned to the Heavens in 1985. Ti is my
Heavenly Father and is the One who gave me birth into that
Kingdom before this civilization began. Now, I’m not here to sell
you on that, or who I am or who these are. I’m here to offer you,
as these are, an opportunity to know the Truth, so that if you can
connect with it, at any level, then you might survive the re-spading
or the recycling that is about to occur.
We made a tape just shortly ago, and in that tape we said
that there are three types of individuals who will survive the
recycling. One type is those individuals who have overcome their
humanness enough that when the End of this Age is complete,
when the war is over (the spading complete, there is nothing left
here except for recycling), when the end of that occurs, that first
type will have reached a condition of having overcome human
behavior, human thinking, human desires – desiring only to be in
the Kingdom of Heaven, in the Evolutionary Level Above Human,
being of service in that Kingdom. When they have done that
overcoming to that degree, at that point they are a match for a
physical body belonging to that Kingdom.
Humans think that this is a flesh body world, and it is.
But, more importantly, it is a human flesh body world. The
Kingdom of God, the Kingdom of Heaven, the Evolutionary Level
Above Human also has bodies. I wouldn’t say flesh bodies
because they have different characteristics. But it is a physical
body, a biological body, and in a sense, it is equivalent to a human
body for that next Evolutionary Level. It doesn’t need the kind of
fuel that humans need, for it’s not a mammalian body. It doesn’t
reproduce. It’s not male nor female. It probably would look like
what you might consider a very attractive “extraterrestrial.” Most
of the illustrations of extraterrestrials these days have been
grotesque – looked like giant insects, or slimy reptilians, or have
eyes so big that you could fall into them. An extraterrestrial that
we would consider a genuine extraterrestrial is not a “fallen
angel,” is not a “space alien.”
We see fallen angels and space aliens as synonymous –
fallen angels and space aliens are synonymous. And the Next
Level – the only real extraterrestrials – have a body similar to the
human body. The human body was made from the same basic
design, the same general form, except the human body is more
animal than that Next Level form. The human body has hair,
needs teeth, has physical characteristics that are appropriate to this
environment. When you go into an environment that does not
require eating things that you have to pull off the bone, or crack
the shells off the nut, then certainly teeth are not needed. A Next
Level body in a non-earthly environment also needs no hair. That
Next Level body is a creature that looks very attractive, has two
eyes, some remnant of a nose, some remnant of ears – what you
would call remnants – even though they function very well as
nose, as ears. They have a voice box, but don’t really need to use
it, for they can communicate by thought – communicate with their
minds. And that’s an extraterrestrial – that is the “body”
belonging to a member of the Evolutionary Level Above Human,
the Kingdom of Heaven, the Kingdom of God. It’s true, they
could seem unattractive to you if you’re really “into” human flesh
bodies and see them as beautiful.
You know, there are sayings that there is seed of flesh, or
there are things that are born of flesh, and there are things that are
born of spirit. Also, born of water is synonymous with being born
of flesh. If people really understood the more accurate of the
religious literature, and could read it as it was intended to be read,
they would know it clarifies that seed of flesh (human) was and is,
literally, seed of the negative, the opposition, the space aliens, the
fallen angels. Therefore, to the Next Level, human flesh has
become a product of the lower forces, and is of the kingdom
level beneath the Kingdom of God – that kingdom level that
rightfully should be only a steppingstone leading to the Kingdom
of Heaven.
Now, this understanding isn’t meant to put you down or
to say that an individual is necessarily “evil” just because they’re
wearing a human vehicle. I’m wearing a human vehicle, because I
have to wear one for this task. I don’t like it. It doesn’t match me.
And those who sit in front of me don’t like their human vehicles
that they have to wear for this task. But they have to wear them,
because the task of overcoming the human kingdom requires that
they overcome human flesh – the genetic vibrations, the lust of the
flesh, the desire to reproduce, the desire to cling to offspring, or
spouse, or parents, or house, or money, or fame, or job, or, or –
that could go on and on – overcoming the human flesh and its
desires – even its religious desires. There is not a religion on the
face of the globe that is of God, as it is today. All of those
ideologies that are called religions use corrupted records and
corrupted interpretations of man’s relationship with someone from
the Kingdom of God, the Evolutionary Level Above Human.
In other words, it’s like the religious literature (the Bible,
the Torah, the Koran, etc.) are written as time manuals. So that
ancient religious literature, with its laws and rules, was appropriate
to the time that it was written in and to that phase of civilization.
Less ancient literature, with its laws, was appropriate to its own
particular age. What did the “Lord” God – the one who was here
long before the Messiah came – say to His people? Through His
prophets, He said, `I will send a Savior, a Messiah to help you get
out of the human kingdom,’ knowing that some humans should
certainly reach a condition where they would be ready to move up
into His Kingdom by that period in time when His Representative
– the Messiah – would be sent. When thee One He sent came as the
“Messiah,” truly some in the civilization at that time were prepared
for the information – the steps, the requirements – that that
Messiah had to offer to those who would seek His Father’s
Well, that Savior came, that Messiah came. And after a
brief teaching period with those He picked – those who were His
disciples/students – He said, `I will come again.’ And His Father
sent Him again. And for me to say that I was and am He, is to
most, utter blasphemy. In other words, what I say to you now is a
direct, present, current transmission – information from the
Kingdom Level of My Father, the Level Above Human, the
Kingdom of God, the Kingdom of Heaven.
Today’s Christians say they are Christians and think they
are Christians. And yet they seldom quote the most important
things that Jesus said. Jesus said, `If you want to know My Father,
if you want to move into My Father’s Kingdom, then shed
everything of this world – leave everything behind – and come and
follow Me. And unless you hate everything of this world, your
sister, your mother, your brother – everything of this world – you
will not know the Kingdom of Heaven. You have to graft to Me,
you have to cling to Me, if I am to literally take you into My
Father’s house.’ Most Christians, world over, mostly frequently
quote Paul – who never sat with that Representative (Jesus), nor
was Paul ever a student of that Representative. Christians say,
“Oh, I love Jesus. He’s in my heart. I’m filled with Jesus. Jesus
wants me to live an abundant human life. He wants me to have
riches. He wants me to have more children so that I can bring
them up with Christian family values.” I don’t remember Jesus
ever saying that, “What I want you to do is to go get married, have
families, have children, and together bring all of them and I will
take them into the Kingdom of Heaven.” He only spoke to
individuals – and said, `The only way out of here is for you to
know that as an individual this human world is not for you – that
tie that binds you to the human kingdom is not for you. If you
know it is not for you, then come to Me – and My Father will feed
Me information that can nourish you – and help you overcome this
world – and we’ll leave this world, and we’ll go to My Father’s
Remember, we’re not talking about a spiritual kingdom –
no clouds, no harps – even though we are talking about in the
heavens. But the Heavens are no more spiritual than when you go
out at night and look at the Heavenly bodies and see them. They
are literally there. They are physical. My Father’s Kingdom also
moves or travels in spacecrafts (some of which are even organic).
You could say, “Oh, my goodness, that’s outrageous.” Well, you
don’t like the illustrations of chariots of fire or wheel within a
wheel? You don’t like the illustrations that are in your religious
literature that tell of spacecrafts of my Father’s Kingdom?
“Clouds of light” – at that time they didn’t know what else to call
them. Even when they saw angels that they said had wings – how
else could they have described that they fly? That didn’t
necessarily mean they had feathers on their backs (though that
possibility exists as well). Certainly some of these illustrations
mean that they came to Earth in a flying object and they left
aboard that flying object. And when they saw Jesus ascend, they
said, “He went up into that cloud of light.”
Now, I’m not trying to make a big deal over the means of
transportation issue. For a spacecraft – belonging to the Level
Above Human – is much more than a piece of transportation. It is
a very valuable work station. It is commonly a place of service to
the Level Above Human. These students that are leaving this
kingdom level to go with me to my Father’s Kingdom, to my
Father’s house, these will not go into houses on some planet like
Earth, and reproduce, and have families and sit and watch
television and make scrambled eggs. They’re going to be
genderless individuals, in service – full time – for whatever need
the Level Above Human, the Kingdom of Heaven has for them.
And the tools they use, the workstations that they use are
spacecrafts – all sizes. Spacecrafts that are so small that a very
small crew could fit into them because that small spacecraft is best
suited for that given task. Spacecrafts that are so large you can’t
even see the outer extremities of them. They could look like
something larger than a planet to the observers, because that size
craft is best suited for whatever laboratory work or
experimentation is going on. All sizes are used for a variety of
How can these students be effective servants in that
Kingdom if they’re worried about their children, or their dogs, or
their horses, or their cats, or how much time they have to put in at
the Rotary, or such things as that. As individuals they serve one or
two individuals – older Representatives of that Next Kingdom –
who are their instructors for their assigned tasks. Just as in the task
that we’re in now with this classroom – these look to me as their
Older Member, their instructor, for everything. I look to my Older
Member for everything – to fill me in on what these students’
needs are and how I might be used to instruct them. I’m not just
talking about their physical needs, but their mental/spirit/soul
needs – how they can most effectively make their change from
human into the Kingdom Level Above Human.
Now, this is not to say that we know that there is a
guarantee that we will all go on board a craft together, in order to
leave before this spading under occurs. We will definitely go on
board a craft to leave before the “spading under” occurs. You
could say, “Well, what’s the difference?” Well, the difference is
that we don’t yet know if we are going to take these flesh bodies
on board that craft or if we will leave these flesh bodies behind
before we board. We don’t believe that Our Father’s Kingdom has
much need for these flesh bodies. But, it’s possible that a
spacecraft will come down, and we’ll walk on board that craft, and
they’ll take these bodies from us, and issue us the ones that belong
to that Level so that we might begin our service. It is also possible
that part of our test of faith is our hating this world, even our flesh
body, to the extent to be willing to leave it without any proof of the
Next Level’s existence, other than what we have come to know:
that we have nothing to fear; that we are in Good keeping; that
we can leave the body that we’re in and Be that soul, that identity,
which totally survives that separation – whether it is by
martyrdom, because someone went crazy over our “righteous
blasphemy,” or whatever event that might separate us from that
human body that we are wearing. Our faith is primarily based
upon our trust in our Older Members. We do know one thing –
we don’t care to cling to the life of this body until it naturally
“gives up.” We don’t care to be aborted by the body that we’re
wearing. We care more to abort it in proof to our Heavenly Father
that we trust Him and are ready to leave this place. We’re ready to
go into His Kingdom. And they, these students, have to say to my
Father, “We trust your Son. We trust the One You sent for our
sakes. Even so much that we have no hesitation to leave this place
– to leave the body that we are wearing.. We know that whatever
happens to us after we leave this body is a step forward from what
we were, and that we don’t care to be here any longer.”
Earlier in this tape I spoke to you of three types of
individuals who can be salvaged from this re-spading. One type
that I mentioned was those who have overcome enough that they
will get an issue of a physical body belonging to the Next Level,
and go into service, as a crew member, working for the Next
Level. A second type of individual that can be salvaged from this
planet at this time are those who don’t quite reach that point of
overcoming by the time it is time to leave. But they are still
faithful to the best of their ability in their effort of breaking away,
leaving their humanity, and looking to us – looking to me, looking
to my Father, looking to the Next Level – to give them the strength
and the understanding of how they can break away more quickly.
So wherever they are, to the best of their capability, at the time of
our exit, even if they are not ready for issue of a Next Level body
– they may have to experience a time in a civilization that is yet to
come and do more overcoming of the human kingdom. But they
will be in the keeping of the Kingdom Level Above Human, just as
these have been in the keeping of the Kingdom Level Above
Human – not just here at this time, in this generation, with me and
with Ti.
“Ti” isn’t Ti’s name, by the way. “Do” isn’t Do’s name.
I’m not even given to tell you what my name or Ti’s name is. The
Next Level wouldn’t have humans know what our real names are.
I had to put that in for the record, so that you would understand.
Back to the previous subject, the second type of
individual who can go into the Kingdom of Heaven is one who, at
the time we leave, has not completed their human overcoming to
the satisfaction of the Next Level, and therefore the Next Level
will bring them back when a civilization is at its development
point to be a “match” – at the point where those individuals might
pick up where they left off. Then they will reach “issue time” for a
Next Level body by or before the end of the next civilization.
The third type of soul or individual who can go to the
Kingdom of Heaven now, with us, and be in the keeping of that
Kingdom, are those who either hear our voice right at the end of
our task, or have received this information and don’t know where
it’s coming from. In other words, some might hear our voice and
might know where it is coming from, might know that I exist in
physical form here, about to leave. Others might not make
contact, but something tells them, “I’ve got to break away, I can’t
stand to stay here. I’ve got to put my life on the line for the
Kingdom of Heaven.”
The lower forces’ whole effort is to have potential
members of the Next Level not succeed in remaining faithful to the
end so that they might prevent them from coming into the keeping
of the Kingdom of God, the Kingdom of Heaven.
So, here we are. We’re going public with this
information once again, right before we leave. This is like putting
ourselves right out on the chopping block where the lower forces
will have a chance to try to demean us, have the world turn against
us, and try to do us in. It will challenge all those who are religious
minded to look at us and say, “Hmmm, how could that possibly be
the Truth, is this not the Anti-Christ or the spurious Messiah?”
“Spurious Messiah” is the term that some prominent
television/satellite ministries use in describing the Anti-Christ,
who, they say, is to arrive on the scene before Christ returns. So,
in their eyes, since the Anti-Christ has not yet arrived, then
Christ’s return must be at a later time. Well, I hate to tell you, but
the Anti-Christ – the spurious Messiah – has been on the scene
ever since my Father and I left 2000 years ago. And he and his
helpers have worked as hard as they could through religions,
through governments, through “acceptable” morality, through
“responsibility as a human,” to brainwash humans to expect
“Heaven on Earth.” Those lower forces have “programmed”
humans, especially Christians, to see our arrival “on the scene” as
the Anti-Christ. Those fallen angels – those humanoid space
aliens – would have humans not look to or expect to go to a
Kingdom of Heaven, but to look for a Heaven on Earth – where
they might reign as your Christ – to work toward the future – to be
preoccupied with replicating or reproducing children – and laying
aside enough money to take care of those children so that they will
have a future, and they will have a future, and they will have a
future. A future in what? – the human kingdom? What an
abomination! To the Next Level the human kingdom is, at its
best, nothing more than a potential steppingstone. It’s clear
that anyone who wants to stay in the human kingdom – and
make it some sort of divinity – is looking to some “spurious
Messiah,” an anti-Christ indeed.
Now, I know that those who are expecting the arrival of
the “spurious Messiah” – “the anti-Christ” – if they become aware
of this tape and of Do sitting here saying what I’m saying now,
they’ll say, “That’s the one. Because I warned you that the
spurious Messiah would say, `I’ll take you out of here. I’ll rapture
you into my father’s kingdom.’ ” And that’s what I’m saying. I’m
saying that, “If you can believe my Father’s information, if you
can believe the Truth that we share with you, and if you believe it
enough that you can put your trust in me – and that could be a “big
dose” for some – you will soon find yourself in the safekeeping of
the Kingdom of Heaven.” These students in front of me know me
well. If you have some of my Father’s mind in you, you can have
recognition as well, even with only this brief viewing, though I’ll
remind you that the lower forces will do everything they can to
have you lose or doubt that recognition.
We have a website now, you know, it’s the popular thing
– everybody has to have a website. Our website on the Internet is
called Heavensgate. Heavensgate – oh, of course, .com.
Everything is .com. We’re not .org, we’re .com. So if you want
to, you can learn more about who we are, what we have to say,
what I have to say, what my Older Member can share with you
through what we have said, and know of our history. We have
nothing to hide. Even though to some, we might be a dangerous
cult. We understand that. Why dangerous? Because we threaten
the family, we threaten the established norm of family values. If
you knew Jesus 2000 years ago, you would know that exactly the
same thing occurred. And that the reason for getting rid of Him
was because if people really began to follow Him to any
significant degree, it would threaten the political, and certainly the
religious norm. His teachings were clearly against what the
mainstream was teaching, what the norm was in the governments
or the family, and certainly against the religion of that time.
Religion today is an interesting thing. Remember how we
said a moment ago that the religious literature like the Bible, the
Koran, the Torah, are time manuals. In the time that something
was written, as the Lord or as God related to man, it was
appropriate for them at that time. And yet we have the bulk (if not
the vast majority) of humans on the planet today who are very
religious living exactly as they were trying to live some 5000 years
ago, or some 4000 years ago. They never made it to 2000 years
ago. But 2000 years ago, a chance to get out of here, was available
to those who listened to what the Next Level’s Representative had
to say. A chance to get out of here – out of the human kingdom
– whenever it is offered, requires everyything of you – that you, as
an individual, go join some cult – that you leave everything behind
– that you ignore the members of your faamily – that you ignore the
responsibility to your community – that you ignore your career –
and that hearts will be broken.
I don’t mean to make light of that, “that hearts will be
broken.” I know that hearts are broken. I also know that anyone
who leaves to go to my Father’s Kingdom, that any heart that is
broken in the process of that transition, can easily be more than
healed, if that heart looks to my Father for healing, and looks to
my Father for understanding. That soul does not need to see this
as a terrible experience. Many times, the worst things in the
human kingdom that can happen to us, end up being the best
things that could happen to us. Because we learn “in depth”
lessons as a result of those difficult times. Every life that was
touched by these who are sitting in front of me – every life that
was hurt or experienced pain by their leaving and becoming
students of mine and of my Father’s – was hurt, severely hurt.
Some of them still hurt. They could actually say, “Thank you,
God, for the lesson that is mine to learn in this experience. And as
far as that individual that I used to call my son or daughter, or my
husband or wife, I put them in Your trust. I cannot tell them what
they must do with their life. That is their decision.”
We cannot judge each other. I cannot judge you. I don’t
care to judge you. You will judge yourselves by how you respond
to what we have to say, by what you can accept and what you
can’t. In some cases, it’s almost better that you never see me, or
hear what we say, for that will put you to the test of whether or not
you will condemn me, whether or not you will judge me. You
cannot hurt me. You cannot hurt these. We can only be hurt if we
displease our Heavenly Father.
It’s funny that the world – the mainstream human world –
is so quick to condemn and judge (those who are not like them) as
if they were God Almighty. They would also judge those who
would follow us, determining the worthlessness of any that would
join some cult, assuming that that is the worst thing that anyone
could possibly do, for they are being brainwashed and led down
the wrong track into some occult camp, and they’re going to the
devil. What is the devil like? Know your literature. What do the
fallen angels like? They like the pleasures of the human flesh –
the aspirations of this world.
What is told to you in all religious literature – that you
will find if you ever reach the Kingdom of Heaven? There, there
will be no males, no females, no children, no families other than
your relationship with God – your Lord. Your Lord is whichever
Member of His Kingdom He has given to you, assigned to you as
your Helper, your Instructor, your Teacher. This is so simple that
it sounds unreal-unspiritual. This information would be easier to
accept if it were more spiritual, if it were more complicated, if it
had more ritual with it, or more trappings of religion. In my
Father’s house, no incense is required, no flowing robes, no
tinkling bells, no genuflecting, no sitting in the lotus position, no
things of “spirituality,” even though our Father’s Kingdom
requires cleansing of the spirit/the mind. It requires ridding
ourselves of the mind of the human kingdom – ridding ourselves
of the lusts of the human world, and of the binds to the human
“Being filled with spirit” is an interesting thing for you to
think about. What happened when the illustration was made that
Jesus was with John the Baptist, and was being baptized, and a
dove descended and He was “filled with the Holy Spirit”? “Filled
with the Holy Spirit” meant that the major portion of Jesus’ mind,
His Next Level identity, was entering the body that He was
wearing to the degree that the vehicle’s human mind was no longer
affecting Him – He had aborted that mind of the human kingdom.
He was “filled” with the mind of His Father. The mind of His
Father is “Holy Spirit.” Any mind of the Level Above Human
is pure Spirit – is Holy Spirit. To think of “being filled with the
Holy Spirit” as something that comes-and-knocks-you-down-and-
your-broken-knee, is an abomination. It is anything but the
“Holy Spirit” that you’re being “filled with.” Likewise, to
“babble” in some indiscernible “mumbo-jumbo” and call it
“speaking in tongues” or “being filled with the Holy Spirit” is also
an outrage. It might be an experience of being “filled with the
spirit,” but it certainly is not the Holy Spirit.
You know, a soul is another very interesting thing,
because my Father’s Kingdom plants souls. And souls become the
great separator as they are planted. My Father’s Kingdom plants
souls in many humans each time a Representative of the Kingdom
Level Above Human is to be incarnate on planet Earth – plants
many souls in many human plants. Now, even though they’re
planted in the flesh, because the flesh is what has to be overcome,
they are really planted in the spirit of that flesh. The spirit being
the mind or the intelligence of that flesh. And you can say, “Well,
does that mean that everybody doesn’t have a soul?” Yes, that’s
exactly what it means. But it also means that anybody can have a
soul that can believe in my Father – the reality of my Father, the
reality of His Son, and the reality of His Kingdom.
In other words, those who are given the responsibility and
the task of planting those souls, plant them in all of the human
plants who have a potential of making that step – using that
steppingstone – and getting out of the human kingdom and into
that Next Kingdom Level. That soul, as the separator, helps the
individual, in their mind (in their spirit), abort human thinking,
human evaluation, human behavior, and replace it with the mind
that they get from the Representatives – the mind of the Next
Level – fill it up, fill it up, fill it up. When it is so filled and
enough aborting of human mind has occurred – then that
individual has come into viability – has come into bloom enough
that that individual is ready to go to “quartermaster” when they
leave this planet, and be issued a body, of service, belonging to the
Kingdom of my Father.
Now, let me say this: all human plants – even in their
genetic structure – have a little bit of Heavenly mind, or mind of
the Kingdom of God, mind of the Evolutionary Level Above
Human (I have to say all of those each time I say it, just to remind
you I’m talking about the same thing). Each human plant has a
little bit of that Next Level mind in it. So theoretically, and this is
true, that if there is a human listening to me who, in fact, may not
at this moment have a soul, but that plant listens to me, and says,
“Could it be true, what Do is saying? It sounds crazy, but I
wonder if that’s true?” Even that degree of curiosity would attract
the attention of the Next Level crew which is assigned to planting
souls. That crew will be sure that a separator (a soul) is
immediately made available to that individual. So that deposit of a
soul could happen very, very quickly. They’re not going to let it
happen, that any potential recipients of their Kingdom not have the
needed receptacle of Next Level spirit coming into full blossom as
pure spirit, pure mind, of the Kingdom of Heaven.
Now, let’s go back to the topic of urgency. I don’t know
if you are aware that a great deal of literature used by many
scholars today, says that the calendar that humans use is off by 4
years. And that Jesus was born in 4 B.C. Now, if Jesus was born
in 4 B.C., and this is ’96 A.D., could this be the year 2000 – the
millenium, the beginning of the end? That’s why we’re talking.
For us to surface with who we are and the information that we are
surfacing with, we know, could challenge you to want to squelch
us. It’s interesting that we see the world – we see the world – as
the anti-Truth, the anti-Christ, the spurious Messiah. The world –
those who want to stay in the world – will see us as anti-Truth,
anti-Christ, spurious Messiah. We’re prepared for that. We know
that that is inevitable at this time. That was inevitable 2000 years
ago – that is what found Jesus sentenced to die on a cross.
Remember, we said that the third type of person who can
actually be salvaged at the end, can be taken into the keeping of
the Next Level, simply because they believe in what we say. That
simple belief is what occurred in the mind of the thief who was on
the cross next to Jesus. When Jesus recognized his belief, He told
him that, `this day he would, upon their departure, be with Him in
paradise.’ He knew that he seriously believed. And He knew that
is all that it took – is for him to believe who He was. Even
believing Him in a condition when He was being killed as a heretic
– against the Church, against the systemm. The Church today
certainly will see us as against the Church. The Church of today is
not of God. Though once the true followers – the Church – were
of God. The only true Church of today are those who are
connected with the present existence of the Next Level, the
Kingdom of God, the Kingdom of Heaven – and the
Representative from that Kingdom.
This time is so exciting to us, even though we know that
it is close to our end, and that is why it is exciting to us. We don’t
expect to or want to build a Church on this planet. We don’t want
any gothic Cathedral. We don’t want any membership roll. We
don’t want to help you reproduce so that we have more children to
put on the Sunday school roll in our Church. We are a group of
believers in the Kingdom Level Above Human, who want to leave
and enter that Kingdom, and become of significant service to that
This does not mean that when in the human kingdom, that
a strong humanitarian drive is not a healthy thing. Because really
a strong humanitarian drive is motivated to improve. But if you
could only see that a human condition is a temporary condition, a
steppingstone, an opportunity to get out of this kingdom, then you
could accept this Truth. This is as scientific – this is as true as true
could be – but you have to know me, you have to trust me, you
have to believe me. Some can know me now. Some can even
know me for the first time when they see this tape and say, “I don’t
know what there is, but there’s something in my head that makes
me know that fellow, and makes me know that what he’s saying is
true. And I may be wrong, but I’m going to try to find more out
and see if that’s what I need to be a part of. Because I know that
this Earth has become something that is not where I belong.”
It’s funny – not funny – it’s really sad that a segment of
my Father’s Kingdom, in particular my personal Heavenly Father,
related to a community that is today considered the early Jewish
community, and worked with them preparing them for my
presence here 2000 years ago and now. And yet, the Jewish
community of then and now, would certainly see me as anything
but a Representative of God. The Muslims, who are considered by
some to be the enemy of the Judeo-Christians, many of them have
sustained a more real connection with God – with some higher
standards of behavior, and with more restraint. You know, one of
my students reminded me just today that they came in contact with
a Muslim who said, “Look, you know you people of the West have
a wrong idea of what we are. We don’t praise Mohammed. We
don’t worship Mohammed. We consider Mohammed a prophet of
many prophets. Many of the books of our literature are about
Jesus. And I say, `Great is God’ more than 50 times a day,
because God means so much to me.” God means so much to many
of them that they are more modest in the clothing that they wear.
Many are more on guard against sensuality and “worldly” things.
God means so much to many of them that they are willing to die
for God and justify that frame of mind more quickly than they
would a willingness to die for nation, or die for world. I’m not
saying that Muslims are the ones who are going to inherit God’s
Kingdom any more than anyone else. In the eyes of the Kingdom
of Heaven, there’s no such thing as race or color or religious
background. It doesn’t matter – none of it matters. If the extent of
your religious background was Star Trek – that in itself could be
the best background you could have, if you could accept this as
Truth, if you could accept this as reality.
This is a test time. You could easily say, “Here’s a little
bitty classroom, with some old fellow with a prune face sitting
here, calling himself Do, saying, `I’m a Representative of the
Kingdom of God.’ How can I believe that?” If you have some of
my Father’s mind in you, you will have some recognition of us
and this information. Even though once you recognize me, the
forces of this world will dive in with all their might to have you
lose that recognition, to have you not trust me, to have you come
to your senses, and come back into the service of this world.
I hope this tape session with you will be the beginning of
our relationship. If this tape session is used to validate your seeing
us as anti-God, the Anti-Christ, so be it. That’s part of what we
expect. That’s part of the necessity of what comes at this time.
It’s the common thing for us to see each other as opposites of what
we believe we are.
I’m so happy, because my time is short here. If you come
with us, your time here can be shortened. When Jesus left 2000
years ago – or the one who was in Jesus, or when I left 2000 years
ago – only a very short time after that, Truth was significantly
corrupted. So that no matter who tried to use the name of “Jesus,”
or of “Christ,” or His information – seeing it as true, seeing it as
real, referring to what had been said of what it takes to come into
my Kingdom – that fell apart, that deteriorated, that became
unimportant. It’s a miracle that His Teachings can still be found in
the gospels – they’re still there – you’d be amazed, you should
read them again. Likewise this time, after I’m gone, when we
leave, when we enter into my Father’s spacecraft in order to go
into service in His Kingdom, the Truth will deteriorate as fast as
we depart. It will leave this atmosphere within a very short time.
I hope for your sake that you will, at least, ponder this –
don’t ask your neighbors, your friends, what they think of this.
Instead, go into the privacy of your “closet” and see if you can
connect with the purest, highest source that you might consider
“God,” and ask: “What about this? Is this information for real? Is
this for me? If it is, then please give me the strength I need to
pursue it.” As soon as you tell anyone else, they will likely be
used by the lower forces as their instruments to have you not
believe, to have you stay in this world and wait for the “Heaven on
We hope to be of some service to you in this short time
before our departure. We believe it to be a very short time. So our
thoughts will be of you. We hope that your thoughts will be of our
Father’s Kingdom.

Last Chance to Evacuate Earth Before It’s Recycled

October 9, 2013

Last Chance to Evacuate Earth Before It’s Recycled

Edited Transcript of Videotape:

This is the 29th of September, 1996. I’m “Do.” “Do”
probably doesn’t mean anything to many of you. To those who
have heard of “Do,” I might relate “Do” to “Ti and Do,” of the
“UFO Two,” or of what the media dubbed the “UFO cult” that
made some splash in the news in 1975 and disappeared from the
scene shortly after that. And some of you might have heard of
some efforts that we have made to try to share a little bit of what
we have learned with the public, periodically, between 1975 and
now. We put out a statement called `88 Update, and we did a
videotape series a little while after that, I think it was 1992, 1991-
1992, called “Beyond Human.” Now, today we have quite a
different urgency. It’s urgent to me, and it’s urgent to the students
that sit before me. Our reason for speaking to you is because we
feel to warn you of what is just around the corner.
I’ll try to just put it as briefly as I can and as clearly as I
can. This planet is about to be recycled, refurbished, started over.
That doesn’t mean it’s going to be destroyed, it doesn’t mean it’s
the end of the world. But it does mean that it is going to be spaded
under. Now, you can say, “Well, who are you to say that?” And
I’ll tell you who I am. As to whether or not you believe who I am
is up to you. And whether or not you believe that this civilization
is going to be recycled or refurbished is up to you. Now, the
purpose of this tape is to warn you that this is about to happen,
and that it’s going to happen very soon.
If I would title this tape, it would be “Last Chance to
Evacuate Planet Earth Before It Is Recycled” – last chance to
evacuate Earth before it is recycled. If you’ve read any of our
teachings – the information that we have – you know that our
discipline is strict, that we teach “overcoming human ways,”
overcoming human addictions. The purpose of that is not for
religious reasons, or for morality, or in order to become
“righteous.” The purpose of that is to go to the heavens. Humans
have some idea, because of what the negative forces have let them
believe, or have led them to believe – humans have the idea that
through religion, if I live a good life, then I get to go to Heaven
when I die. And they don’t know what Heaven is, but they think
that Heaven is where God is, and Heaven is where whoever the
leader of their religion is, and they’ll get to go be with them if
they’ve lived a good life by whatever standard their religion
The fact is, that there is only one Kingdom Level – a
Kingdom Level, just like there’s a human kingdom – there’s only
one Kingdom Level above the human kingdom, and that Kingdom
Level made the human kingdom, and designed the planet,
designed all of its resources, designed all of its life forms, designed
humans, and even designed humans with the potential of leaving
the human kingdom in order to go to the Kingdom Level Above
Now, the startling thing to many is that the Kingdom
Level Above Human is physical. There’s some idea that the
Kingdom Above Human is spiritual, as if it is limited to being
spiritual. It is spiritual in the sense that, if you think of “mind” as
synonymous with “spirit,” and you become something that
identifies with your mind instead of the “suit of clothes” you wear,
then it is spiritual, because that mind/spirit becomes your identity.
Even in the human world – if humans identify with the mind that
they have, or the spirit that they have (remember, those two are
synonymous) – if they identify with that mind, then they don’t
think that they die when the body they are wearing drops. They
think that they move into another world. When they move out of
the body, whether they do, in fact, move into another world
depends upon whether they’re connected or not, or what their
information is, or what they are capable of knowing or doing, what
they’ve been willing to learn.
You know, the Next Level, or the Evolutionary Level
Above Human – oops, I said that bad word: Evolutionary Level.
Because religious people think, “Oh, `evolution’, does this mean
that you don’t believe in creation?” That’s the most ridiculous
thing that someone could think – that evolution is not a part of
creation. That Kingdom Level created everything that is, or made
everything that is, and among those things it made, it made a
number of things that advance in an evolutionary progression. So
to speak of that Level Above Human, we shouldn’t be afraid to
use the word “Evolutionary” Level Above. It’s not really an
Evolutionary Level Above Human, in that creatures here can, on
their own, advance into that Kingdom Level, because they can’t.
That sounds strange. Well, they can advance, but they can’t do it –
on their own.
The same Evolutionary Level that created the human
kingdom has to physically incarnate into the human kingdom to
offer life to them – to offer information to them – while incarnate
in a human body. If a recipient is thirsty enough for that mind,
that recipient recognizes that he has literally connected with a
source from that Next Level (that incarnate Representative) who
is in their physical presence. Don’t forget, the Next Level is not a
spiritual Kingdom. Its members identify as the mind or spirit/soul,
but wear physical bodies. Do you look at the heavens at night?
Why do you see physical bodies in the heavens? If it was a
spiritual heaven, you wouldn’t see any of those bodies. They
would all be etheric. But you see those Heavenly bodies. You see
only a tiny, tiny fraction of those physical bodies in the Kingdom
of Heaven. There are also many physical Heavenly bodies that
cannot be seen by the human eye.
That doesn’t mean that our Heavenly Father’s Kingdom,
or the Kingdom of God, or the Evolutionary Level Above Human,
is anything less because it has physical characteristics. It has all
characteristics – everything that you can talk about came from
them – including “evil” – including the design of everything that
can lead you to go astray if you listen to the wrong sources. You
could say, “That couldn’t possibly be true.” There is nothing that
is that was not created by the Kingdom Level Above Human. And
the reason they created everything that there is, including negative
options, is so that you could become exactly what you choose to
become when you have the opportunity to become it.
Now, the only time we have an opportunity to leave the
human kingdom and go to the Kingdom Level Above Human, is
when there is a Member from that Kingdom Level, incarnate in
human form, saying to you, “I’ll tell you about a Kingdom Level
beyond here, and if you want to go there then you have to follow
me, because I am the guy who’s got the key at the moment.”
Whatever Representative is sent from that Kingdom Level and
comes into the human kingdom, then that’s the Representative
who has that key to that Kingdom, for that period of time. And it
requires, if you move into that Evolutionary Kingdom, that you
leave behind everything of human ways – human behavior,
human ignorance, human misinformation.
A long time ago, long before this civilization began (and I
don’t know how many subsequent times this occurred), that
Kingdom Level had a Representative in a human civilization, and
members of a classroom who were in the process of overcoming
their human characteristics. Some of those members who began to
serve in elementary ways for that Kingdom Level Above Human
decided that they didn’t want to listen to that Representative any
more, that they could do the things they wanted to do, and they
weren’t sure they wanted to get rid of human ways. And so they
began to find fault in the Representative who was offering them a
way out of the human kingdom. Well, you know the story from
there – fallen angels, Lucifer, Satan, a third of the Heavens
following a renegade who decided, “This world is not for me. I
can be my own `god.’ I don’t need that Kingdom Level. I resent
that I cannot be my own individual – that I can’t lead my own
Well, that Kingdom Level Above Human let that
individual and his following lead their flock – let them do what
they wanted to do – and used it for means that could serve a
purpose in the design of the Next Level progression. And that
very evil presence is thick on this planet because it’s the End of an
Age. It’s so thick that it would have you not believe a word I say,
and have you not accept anything that I tell you so that you will
not be a recipient of the Kingdom they left (that they got booted
out of and want no one else to go there). They are resentful – and
are in opposition to the real Kingdom Level Above Human.don’t
forget, the Kingdom of God, the Kingdom of Heaven.
Now, the End of the Age, the End of the civilization, is
the worst time for presences of that renegade level (those who
were students of that Level and went renegade). When you read in
historical data that there was also a Hell (and there is a Hell) and
the Hell is where those evil forces are – you can imagine that part
of that Hell is planet Earth. When those “evil” individuals (those
followers of Lucifer, of Satan) chose to go awry, they were then
booted out of the Kingdom Level Above Human. They were
confined to not only planet Earth, but any other planet with this
type of gravity or environment that could serve as a natural
environment for a human level. They need a human civilization.
They use bodies from human civilizations. They make hybrid
bodies because they have to continue to live.
Don’t forget, they had learned what “spirit” was. They
had learned to separate their mind – their spirit – from a human
body, and knew that their identity was not lost if they lost a body.
They learned to move out of that body without losing their
consciousness, and even invade and take over another body that
was “prepared” for them. They could sustain the life of it. For the
most part, they are taking advantage of the human “plants” – the
creatures of this civilization – using them for their own means.
Those aliens – I call them aliens because one way you could speak
of them is as “space aliens,” evil space aliens – but they aren’t
really “space aliens” because they can only circulate in a very
limited part of space. They are confined to environments (such as
this Earth civilization) where there are mammalian human-
equivalent or human civilizations existing. So they are not really
“broad” space aliens. But the common term is “space alien.” And
I don’t mind calling them space aliens.
When the Kingdom of God, the Kingdom of Heaven, the
Evolutionary Level Above Human, is in close, assisting us,
because of our presence here, they certainly wouldn’t be called
“aliens” because this is their garden. They made it. We are their
experiments, we are their creatures, we are their cre-ations. They
made us – everything that we are.
Now, I’ve got to go back to the beginning of this tape,
because I don’t want you to listen to my philosophy, my ideology,
the knowledge that I have. I want you to be aware that the focus is
on the fact that this is the End of the Age. At the End of the Age
the planet is wiped clean – refurbished – rejuvenated. The mess
that the humans have made of it during this civilization is cleaned
up. It is healed. It is probably done on “fast forward.” It probably
wouldn’t take very long to do it by standards of human time. But
even if it took a thousand years to do it, that’s a very brief time
according to Next Level time. We don’t know how long it’s going
to take to do it. We can’t estimate that because we’re talking two
different times anyhow. I mean, I’m trying to relate to you in
human time and yet I am more at home in relating to the time of
the Next Level.
If this planet is about to be recycled – spaded under –
refurbished – the only ones that get to leave it are the ones who
want to leave. The only ones who survive the recycling are the
ones who want to leave – have found a teacher, someone who can
give them the information they need to leave, or give them the
information that will eventually lead them to leaving. Now, what I
mean by that is that information is available only during the
time that we’re here. And here I am, I’m Do, Do of Ti and Do,
of the little religious “UFO cult,” (because that’s what the media
dubbed us). And yet Ti, who is my Father, who is my “Older
Member,” who gave me birth in the Kingdom of Heaven long
before this civilization began, Ti was here with me on this
particular mission.
Now, let me describe this mission for a moment. Ti left,
in Earth time, 1985, because Ti had assisted enough that it was
time to turn responsibility over to Do, and for me then to begin a
more serious communication with my Older Member, and to be
dependent upon it and reliant upon it. When Ti and I were
awakening, we entered this environment (to any significant
degree) in the early `70’s. You’re looking at the body I’m
wearing, and you’re saying, “You entered in the early `70’s?
You’re certainly more than 20 something years old.” The body
I’m wearing is, wow!, 65 years old. “I” (the mind/soul of the Next
Level) entered at the same time my Older Member entered, which
was in the early `70’s. You could think, “Well, that doesn’t make
any sense.” If you’re “new age” – or whatever your belief is
regarding reincarnation – you could think, “Well, I don’t
understand, I thought reincarnation occurs at the beginning of an
infant’s life.” No, I’m sorry to say, that’s not accurate. A mind
begins when that infant is born, and that infant’s genetic package
begins to express itself as that mind develops. And it is a mind, it
is a spirit. But then a spirit or a mind that had previously occupied
another human plant, but has gone into the spirit world (or is
outside of a body because it lost its body from death or whatever,
but is still in the environment), can move in and take over that
vehicle and be stronger than the mind that is the mind of that
vehicle. In other words, it can invade that vehicle. It can take it
over. It can pretty much keep the mind of that vehicle quiet and
do what it wants to do with that vehicle.
Now, the lower forces know this. They teach spirits to do
this after they leave their bodies. They let them know that they’re
capable of doing that. You can say, “You mean that you and Ti
came into bodies in `72, so you’re `body snatchers,’ in a sense.”
Well, the Level Above Human made this garden and its design,
made the human plants for their purposes, and my Grandfather
(Ti’s Father) sent us into this environment with a crew that had
work to do. Now, we did come in and prep the “vehicles.” We
actually set aside this “plant” that I’m wearing (this “vehicle” that
I’m wearing) and the plants of the crew (the classroom), and the
plant that Ti chose to wear. A “deposit” of a little bit of
information was put in those plants that set them aside for the time
when the mind was to significantly come in. And therefore, the
mind that is now in my vehicle (body) cannot relate to that plant’s
history, prior to the time that my mind came in significantly. So,
who the plant was that I’m now wearing, prior to the early `70’s is
just a fuzzy, dismal memory, because it is just like putting on a suit
of clothes that had a history to it. And if I tried, I could invade
some of that history and dredge it up, but it is so unattractive to me
and it’s such a low vibration to me (if I can use that word without
sounding “new age” to some) – it’s repulsive to me because it’s
certainly very human. This vehicle certainly indulged in human
behavior, human addictions, human ways, as every other human
When Ti and I were brought into this environment in the
early `70’s, a spacecraft brought us in – remember, it’s a physical
world. And actually we came in earlier and made deposits, or little
“information deposits,” in our vehicles when they were infants.
So, that means we had to come in during the late `20’s and early
`30’s. We also had to come in and make deposits in the vehicles
of all the classroom that are sitting here in front of me at the
various times when those vehicles were infants.
Now, it’s difficult to accept the information that I am
telling you. If you knew how to interpret some of the religious
documents that have been left for you, you would interpret them
exactly as I am telling you. But it’s not popular to do that – the
lower forces would have you interpret that information, those
documents, entirely differently. Because the lower forces (Satan,
Lucifer, the fallen angels – all of those who are against the real
Kingdom of God) would have you not reach that Kingdom. They
are delighted to serve as your “god.” They will give you the things
that will make you happy in this world. If you want to, you can
praise their name and ask for riches, or ask for anything that you
want. They will give you the things that you want and make you
feel good about it. It’s even so popular today in religions to preach
that, “God wants you to live an abundant life, so ask Him for what
your needs are. He doesn’t want you to be raggedy and poor.”
And of course, that’s true, He doesn’t. But that doesn’t justify
seeking a kingdom here, instead of seeking His Kingdom. You
don’t seek His Kingdom unless you seek to get out of this
kingdom. You can’t have both. His Kingdom is never going to
coexist with the human kingdom. That’s impossible. That would
be like the humans getting down on their all-fours and existing
with the dog kingdom, staying restricted to dog houses, and
restricted to dog food, and restricted to dog behavior. It doesn’t
make any sense. Why would the Kingdom that made the human
kingdom find fulfillment in the human kingdom?
Now, a remarkable thing exists – the most remarkable
thing that you can possibly imagine, and that is – their design
enabled them to make small “mental deposits” in human plants.
We’ll call those “deposits,” for sake of understanding, the “soul.”
And those deposits are really like a small bit of Next Level
“hardware” with capacity for Next Level information. That
deposit/soul is not only a storehouse but a separator for
information. And that deposit/soul comes with an initial bit of
Next Level mind. And wherever the Next Level makes those
deposits of souls in human plants, they contain a little bit of
information that permits the recipient to actually recognize the
kind of information that I am passing on to you. It even has the
capacity to recognize the bearer (the Representative) of Next Level
mind or information.
Even as you listen to me you might recognize me and that
information, but the lower forces and your genetic programming
says, “Oh, don’t listen to that. Don’t listen to that. That’s horrible.
That’s the Anti-Christ. That’s not God as I know it. That’s
something altogether different.” I’m afraid that what you have
been listening to – I’m not blaming you for listening to it, you
hardly stood a chance – are the lower forces. These lower forces
are so strong, that they have brainwashed and kept humans totally
intoxicated at every level around the globe, so much so that they
are totally preoccupied with: make money, put it in the bank, have
more children, have more grandchildren, send them to college,
leave plenty of “security” so that they can have a future, and their
children can have a future. What does that yield? – extending the
human kingdom, and extending the human kingdom, and
extending the human kingdom, with no idea of the possibilities that
exist beyond that. You say, “Oh yes, we go to church once in a
while and we talk about Heaven, talk about the Kingdom of
Heaven.” But most people don’t even want to touch the topic of
the Kingdom of Heaven, because they don’t really know what it is.
They just have to have the faith that, “that’s what I go to if I’ve
been good, and I just have to trust that that’s where I go.” That
doesn’t make any sense. Well, you can say, “Why are you telling
me it doesn’t make any sense? That’s where my trust is. That’s
where my faith is.” I know that it is. It’s not your fault. I know
that’s where your trust is, I know that’s where your faith is. And I
am desperate to give you help so that you can leave this place.
Now, three kinds of individuals can have a possible future
with the Kingdom of God, the Kingdom of Heaven. Oh, a few
minutes ago I started to tell you about this remarkable design, and
I’ve got to go back to it. This remarkable design is what a soul
can become, and how a soul can be deposited in a human vehicle.
Those deposits are made just prior to a Representative of the
Kingdom Level Above Human coming into the human kingdom,
taking a human body, and telling the truth about what the human
kingdom really is, what the Kingdom Level Above Human really
is, and giving that information a chance to build in those souls.
Now, if a human plant has a soul, then that human plant has to
find and connect with someone who is from that Kingdom Level.
And since that Representative is here to try to help those get the
information that can lead them out of the human kingdom, that
individual is going to say, “I’m from the Kingdom of Heaven.”
Oh my goodness, how blasphemous can someone be to say, “I am
from the Kingdom of Heaven.” How else can a Representative
offer anything if He doesn’t identify who He is? He’s saying, “Do
you want to go to Heaven? I’m here! I was sent here for the
express purpose of helping you get to the Kingdom of Heaven.”
Now, the remarkable little process that happens – if an
individual who has that little deposit of soul hears that voice that
says, “I’m from the Kingdom of Heaven, I can help you go to the
Kingdom of Heaven,” – then that individual experiences severe
pain, and begins to break away from the world, and begins to go
to, physically go to and be with that Representative from that
Kingdom of Heaven. Knowing quite well that they are
questioning all the time, “Is this really someone from the Kingdom
of Heaven or from the Level Above Human? Because if it isn’t,
you know, I don’t want to get caught up in some `cult.’ I don’t
want to listen to somebody who could lead me astray. But if it is
somebody from the Kingdom of Heaven, and if I’ve got that little
bit of information in my head, then I’m going to have some
awareness that there could be some truth in what that individual is
saying, who says He is from the Kingdom of Heaven.”
Don’t forget, a couple of thousand years ago, there was a
Representative from the Kingdom of Heaven or the Evolutionary
Level Above Human, present, and He said, `I am from the
Kingdom of Heaven. Go and tell the Good News.’ He told His
followers, `Go tell the Good News that the Kingdom of Heaven is
here.’ Meaning, `This is your chance, I’m here. I can take you out
of here. I can lead you into that Kingdom Level Above Human.’
But He also said, `That can’t happen unless you leave the human
world that you are in and come and follow Me. Come and follow
Me.’ That didn’t mean on Sundays, it didn’t mean part-time. It
meant totally – `Leave everything and come and follow Me.’
And you can say, “Well, my information says that’s terrible.”
Well, check it out. Go read your New Testament. Go read the red
letters in the New Testament. See what that Representative
actually said, `Unless you leave everything and follow Me,
unless you hate everything of this world and come and follow
Me, you will not know My Father nor His Kingdom.’ Go read
it. It’s long. It’s thorough. It’s remarkable that it’s still there. I’m
sure that the Level Above Human had to intercede because I’m
sure that the lower forces would have, long ago, had that
eliminated from documents that people would call religious
documents or religious literature.
Every religion is less than the “Truth.” It becomes a
religion when it is less than the Truth. Now, every religion can
prepare an individual to be more prepared for the time when a
Representative from the Level Above Human comes in. So it’s not
like the Level Above Human is available only to whites, or blacks,
or Jews, or Christians, or Muslims, or whatever the case might be.
It’s open to anyone who, when a Representative is present,
chooses to leave all behind, follow that Representative, and
“graft” to that Representative; and that graft grows as they take
in more mind. Now, they’re not really taking in the mind of the
Representative, because the mind that is in the Representative is
not His mind. The mind that comes through me is not my mind, it
is the mind of my Older Member – we’re in bad shape if it’s my
mind. It is mine because it was given to me by my Older Member,
and by the Kingdom Level Above me – but it is not of me. I do
not care for glory. I know that is the last thing that anyone would
give to me on this planet, and I do not care for it. But I do care to
glorify the Level Above Human. I care to glorify my Father who
gave me life. It is hard for me to speak of that without weakening,
as you can observe.
Okay, here’s an individual who says, “I will break away
from the world.” Now breaking away from the world is not easy.
It’s difficult. It’s tough. And breaking away doesn’t mean that,
I’m going to go live in some place with this little cult, and I’ll
spend time on weekends or at least on holidays with the family that
I left, because they’re my family. No, it means that you leave that
world behind. You even become another individual. It means that
even the “mind” that you had as a human is “aborted,” and the soul
that was given to you is filled with Next Level information – Next
Level mind – and a new creature is born, one that is not human.
Now, the mind that is filling that soul came from the Kingdom
Level Above Human – the Kingdom of God. So that means that
even what fills that soul came from that Kingdom. And therefore
that new creature becomes something that is of, or even from, that
Kingdom. It’s the most interesting way that a creature comes into
being. It’s like how babies are made in the Kingdom Level Above
Human – certainly not in mammalian ways, certainly not in acts
that are abhorrent to them.
Now, that doesn’t mean that it’s “evil” to have an act of
reproduction in the human kingdom – it’s “evil” if I’m leaving the
human kingdom, certainly. It is “evil” because it’s barbaric, it’s
primitive, it’s beneath me. The members in the Kingdom Level
Above Human are not mammals – there are no males, there are no
females. They don’t need to consume things that require fangs or
teeth. They can receive nourishment from a pill or a simple wave
or vibration that they would walk through. The environment that
they are in determines what the vehicle (or “suit of clothes”) they
are wearing for that task requires. Now don’t forget, they identify
as the mind – synonymous with spirit – they are not the “suit of
clothes.” But they wear physical “suits of clothes,” and those
physical suits of clothes look very much like – well I started to say
like “extraterrestrials.” However, most renditions by human artists
of extraterrestrials are the most grotesque things that you can
possibly imagine. They make them look like some praying mantis
or some insect that has some crazy shape or form. And that’s
ridiculous. Next Level bodies are perfectly beautiful “suits of
clothes.” They are perfectly beautiful bodies – neither male nor
female. They don’t have hair that needs to be cut, they don’t need
to have curlers. They don’t need to use makeup. It’s a body that
exists for the most part, in a non-destructive environment, except
when it has to go to a place like planet Earth. So, it’s potentially
an eternal body – an everlasting body.
Now, I don’t like to use terms like “everlasting,” because,
bingo, it sounds like I’m talking spiritual talk, or religious talk.
Don’t forget, religion is less than Truth. Spiritual talk is less than
Truth. It is an abuse of Truth – it is a replacement for Truth
that the lower forces have brought in. The more religious you
are, the more you become dependent upon artificial
information that would lead you away from the Truth. It’s just
like the rituals, and the prayers, and the trappings that go with
religion – they can be so addictive, they can be so soothing, they
can be so calming that they feel so wonderful. And to drop those
things for a reality that is a Kingdom Level Above Human, that
does not need those things, is a difficult thing to do. It is as
difficult to drop religious trappings as it is to drop attachments that
the plant that you are wearing had – those attachments to offspring
or to spouse or to the parents of those plants.
The funny thing is, that in reality, those human parents do
not possess the offspring they have. It is a very “evil” thing for
them to think that their offspring are theirs, that they are products
of theirs, property of theirs. Rather than wanting for that spirit,
that mind (that is in that body that they supplied for that mind or
spirit) to become what it wants to become, the humans are
programmed by the alien forces, or the space aliens, or the
negative creatures, to have you believe that children owe their
parents or that parents possess their children. That is not true. It is
cruel to even think that way. The more Next Level way of
thinking is to want that individual to have their life, and not to be
selfish and say, “Well, I brought you into this world. I want to
cling to you. You owe me.” That doesn’t hold up. They didn’t
ask you to bring them in to the world. Is there some document that
says that child owes its parent? Now the parent is responsible for
the child, because the parent made the choice of creating
(reproducing or replicating) another plant. And since they made
that choice, or they took an action – oh, yes, we get down to that
don’t we – reproduction, human reproduction.
Boy, the worst thing you can imagine is for humans to be
taught by these space aliens – even using their religions and their
government morality to teach them – that the act of reproduction is
a God-given, wonderful thing. It’s God-given in the sense that
dogs and horses came from God. Everything came from the
Kingdom of Heaven, including humans and human reproductive
systems. But what the Kingdom Above Human, the Kingdom of
God, the Kingdom of Heaven wants is to offer you their Kingdom,
which they very systematically do, periodically. But it requires
that when they do, you listen to them, and that you do what they
require if you want to get out of the human kingdom. And to get
out of the human kingdom requires that you leave the human
kingdom, and go and follow someone who can lead you to the
Kingdom Level Above Human.
Now, I told you a little while ago, that there are pretty
much three types of individuals that can avoid the spading under at
the end of an Age. One would, of course, be those souls that were
deposited, and those souls were awakened, and those souls
received nourishment, and left everything behind, and became
attached to – grafted to – a Representative from the Level Above
Human, and separated from everything. Now, I’ve got a bunch of
these individuals sitting in front of me who, I may be mistaken, but
I don’t believe that any of them had the beginning of their Next
Level life in this time period – in this generation. I know that
every one of them were in the keeping of the Kingdom Level
Above Human before they came into this time period. This time
period was a chance for them to learn a lot of things that they
didn’t learn very well, or didn’t get a chance to complete, or
needed to work on more, as far as separating from the human
kingdom. They are having an opportunity to develop that more, so
that they don’t have to be planted back in a human garden in
another time – so that they can move into the Kingdom Level
Above Human, take on costumes, or suits of clothes, or bodies that
belong to that Kingdom, and serve and do their work in that
Kingdom Level Above Human.
You know, I can hear some of those humans who are
watching this tape now saying, “Oh my goodness, if I did what
you would do, I would not even be a humanitarian. I would be
forsaking my responsibility to the human kingdom.” You have to
forsake the human kingdom if you expect to ever know service in
the Kingdom Level Above Human. You can’t do both. You can’t
say, you know, “12 hours a day I’ll work for the human kingdom,
and the other 12 hours I’ll work for the Kingdom Level Above
Human.” No, to leave the human kingdom requires everything you
A second type is one who recognizes the Representative,
recognizes the information of the Next Level that is coming
through the Representative, knows it is true, and has not yet had
the strength to complete it. This type still trusts the Next Level,
still believes that that is the only Truth, and whatever faith they
have and trust they have, that’s where it is. And they will be kept
in the keeping of the Kingdom Level Above Human, and
replanted at another time, and given another chance.
However, even though that Kingdom Level is fair, just
because someone with a deposit of soul comes to them, is no
guarantee they will get to the Kingdom Level Above Human.
When they come, they can apply their effort toward change to the
best of their (big question mark on this next word) ability or
capability. It takes a lot of effort. And even your effort cannot get
you there. You have to please your Older Member. I also had to,
and have to, please my Older Member. When I first took my
birth into that Kingdom Level, it was because I pleased my
Teacher – my Older Member – the one who gave me birth into that
Kingdom. No matter how hard I work, that work is of no value if
it doesn’t please my Older Member, the one who took me into that
Kingdom. That is still true. In other words, this classroom here
not only has to please me, they have to please my Older Member.
So, just because they’re sitting here, having left their world behind,
does not mean that they will receive a body or suit of clothes
belonging to that Next Level.
Okay, let’s say they try to the best of their ability, and
according to the Next Level’s judgment they’re not quite ready for
a body of service, belonging to that Kingdom Level. If they did
the best that they could, and they still pleased their teacher and
pleased their teacher’s Teacher, then they will have a future.
They’ll be replanted, have another time for a Representative to
come into the human kingdom, and have that nourishment. Now
that’s the second type. So one is the type of soul that becomes a
new creature, is ready to go into the Kingdom Level Above
Human, receive a body, begin service. Two, is one who is in the
process of that but doesn’t quite make “quartermaster” – not quite
ready to have a body because of more work that needs to happen
as far as separating from human. We’ll talk later about some of
the work that is required in separating.
There is a side issue to the Next Level’s presence that is a
very interesting phenomena. During the time that the Next Level
is close to a planet because they have a Representative there, and
they are communicating continually with that Representative, then
there is mind of the Next Level present that even the lower forces
can tap and take advantage of, and increase a broad scope of their
knowledge and their technical advancement, etc. Now, how long
has the Next Level been here with me and my Older Member?
Since the early `20’s. Well, think of the advancement that has
taken place on the planet, as far as technical advancement and
scientific development since the early `20’s, because that presence
was here that all creatures could draw upon and use, including
lower creatures who are here who don’t believe that they want to
go to my Father’s Kingdom at all. They want to remain human.
Okay, back to the three types: One, those ready for
quartermaster; two, those not quite ready, and the third type: those
who recognize the information of the Next Level and are
attempting, even without knowing of the Representative’s presence,
to break away in their own way. Now, when they attempt to break
away in their own way, not even aware that I’m here or that my
Older Member has been here at this particular time, they somehow
or another find themselves drawn to others who are breaking away.
They are also finding themselves surrounded with an opposite type
of people who say, “What’s wrong with you guys? Are you crazy?
You’re leaving your career? You’re not paying attention to your
children?” This is happening a lot. Many people are going into
what the mainstream likes to call “cults” – they are breaking
away. People who love their God so, in their own way, that they
end up like what happened with Randy Weaver at Ruby Ridge,
what happened at Waco, what happens in nations that, even in
their government, want to honor God – listen to God – entirely,
instead of taking man’s laws, man’s requirements, man’s rules.
They are breaking away. They are conscious that there is some
presence of God here and are saying, “I want to go in that
direction. I’ll even put my life on the line in order to get closer to
God at this time.”
I am not qualified to specifically tell you who all these
various types are. But I’ve given you some illustrations. It’s like
even in patriot movements, or in militia movements, or in “cults,”
or in this type of religious radical or another who know that this
world is rotten, they are saying, “I would rather die in service to
my interpretation of what God is than stay here.” Those young
souls, those young spirits, those minds will be saved. They will be
set aside – “put on ice,” so to speak – and have a future, have
another planting in the next civilization for further nourishment.
What does this add up to? This adds up to that the ones
who love this world and love the human kingdom, say to me and
all those like me (or all those I just discussed – all those various
categories) that, “They’re nuts, they’re crazy. They’re radicals.
They’re against the world. They are not human – they’re
inhumane. They’re tyrannical or their terrorists.” Now, don’t
misunderstand me. I’m not advocating violence. I’m not
advocating going out and trying to create some war. The war that
is a natural phenomenon that comes with the End of an Age, is
forced upon those who want to leave this place. It’s not anything
that we have to do or we have to create. And some, aware that that
will happen – even some who want to get to the Kingdom Level
Above Human – mistakenly feel responsible for creating those
wars. They don’t have all the pieces right. But if they are doing it
for the right reasons, not me, but my Father and my Father’s
Father, and the Kingdom Level Above Human says, “They love
me more than they love the world. And they love me more than
they love the world during the time that I have a Representative
present. And I will honor that. I will extract them. I will put them
aside. I will give them a planting at another time.”
Well, you know, one of the things that disturbs me the
most is that those who are very religious, by whatever name, are
usually those who had been recipients of souls, recipients of a
little bit of Next Level information, a little deposit from the
Kingdom Level Above Human. And the lower forces were aware
of that. And so the lower forces do everything they can to keep
those individuals from ever knowing the Kingdom of God. So
they come in and offer those recipients their version of the
“Kingdom of God” through their religion, but it’s totally
counterfeit. It’s totally false. It’s concerned with healing your
cancer, healing this that’s wrong, fixing your pocketbook, or
making your business right, or doing all the things to extend your
life here – and above all, tend to that family, tend to that “future,”
tend to all the things that will leave a future for our children. If
that’s your preoccupation, you cannot know the Kingdom of
Heaven and you will have no future. If you love the Kingdom of
Heaven, or the Kingdom of God, or the Level Above Human, by
whatever terms are in your head, and you hate this world and want
to leave it, you will have a future with and in the very Kingdom
Level that created you.
Don’t forget we are at a very unusual time – we’re at the
End of an Age. You can say, “Boy, you’re really trying to fill me
with fear, aren’t you?” If it would work, I would. I would do
anything that I could to wake you up, if you have that potential to
know that Kingdom, to be saved from this spading under, from
this recycling. I mean, I don’t care for any of the fame or glory of
the human world. It’s absolutely worthless to me. I can’t wait to
get out of here. There’s nothing this planet, or this civilization, or
this kingdom level has to offer me. I am away from my Father to
be here. Anything that I could sacrifice in this world is no
sacrifice at all compared to what I sacrificed in leaving there to
come here, to try to help those who were given to me as a task. I
apologize for being so emotional but that happens to be the Truth.
I want to leave here. Now, I’m in a vehicle that is already falling
apart on me, and I’m desperate to try to help you have a last
chance to go.
Let’s go back to title of tape. Title of tape is “Last
Chance to Evacuate Planet Earth”- to get out of the human
kingdom, get off of the planet, leave it literally. Now, “leave it
literally” means – well, what is literal – that leaving requires that
you start identifying with the mind that can connect with this
information, and not identify with the body that you are wearing.
And that you take advantage of everything that you can to learn
more of this information, become more connected with it, and to
follow it like sheep would follow a shepherd, in an attempt to
leave this place.
So, I hate the lower forces who have taken the very
Truths that were initially the Truths, and have reduced them to
“religion,” and they made the religions more attractive and more
human, so that those who had deposits and were seeking the
presence of a Representative of the Kingdom Level Above
Human, would, when He came, be looking for the wrong one – the
one who would bring “peace on Earth.” Here we are at the End of
the Age, and you’ve got a whole world full of many, many types
who say, “We’re coming to the End of an Age, we’re coming to
the Second Coming, we’re coming to the time that Jesus is coming
back, or that the Kingdom of Heaven is coming – and His Son is
going to set up His Kingdom here on Earth, and Earth will then be
Heaven.” This will never happen. You wouldn’t have it even if it
happened. Once you knew what it was, you couldn’t stand it. You
cannot cling to being a mammal, connected with other mammals,
and expect to get into a level of life that is beyond mammal. Now,
you can search the documents of your religions right now and they
clearly tell you that in Heaven there are – there will be – no males
and no females (it is genderless). It is not a mammalian existence,
it is not a human existence. And those documents also clearly tell
you that you have to leave everything of the human world in order
to know that Next World or ever see that Kingdom of Heaven.
Well, once more, the awful thing that happens, from your
perspective, when the Level Above Human comes into the human
kingdom and incarnates into a human body, is that the
Representative whom they send has to say – in order to find
followers – “I’m here. I’m from the Kingdom Level Above
Human.” What does that yield? That yields, immediately, that the
vast majority say, “cult, some religious radical, some blasphemous
individual that wants to take advantage of people – you know, has
some big bank account somewhere that they’re taking whatever
possessions that followers might bring with them or have access
to.” I wish you’d show me where that bank account is so that we
could use it to get this information out.
I don’t mean to make fun of this. I am desperate – for
your sakes. Within the past 24 hours I have been clearly informed
by my Older Member of how short the remaining time is; how
clearly we cannot concentrate on anything except the perspective
that says: the end of this civilization is very close. The end of a
civilization is accompanied by spading under, refurbishing the
planet in preparation for another civilization. And the only ones
who can survive that experience have to be those who are taken
into the keeping of the Evolutionary Level Above Human.
Now, there are some strange possibilities that could
happen that I have not touched upon. How is this end of
civilization going to occur? Well, I don’t know all the particulars.
Talk to the people who talk about earthquakes, and talk about
weather phenomena, and talk about ozone layers. And talk to
environmental people and they’ll say, “Well, the planet is in
trouble in that area.” Talk about the way that people no longer are
restrained nor do they have respect for their neighbors. They’re so
unrestrained that if you just say something that makes them
unhappy, they start throwing rocks at you, and the next thing you
know you’ve got a neighborhood war, you’ve got a little ethnic
war in this nation or that. And there’s so little restraint that these
little groups, these little ethnic groups, these little religious groups,
these little governments that are in conflict – they seem to be doing
a significant amount of the spading under themselves. They seem
to, by choice, be so quick to condemn others. Well, what is it
that’s in the history books about the Truth? It says: be careful not
to condemn someone else or you will be condemned. That doesn’t
mean anything anymore – everyone is quick to condemn. I mean
they don’t even “look-see” anymore. They just see a tiny little
aspect of someone else and they quickly determine that they are so
brilliant that they can judge it as being not what they are looking
for – worthless, some radical movement, some movement that
certainly is beneath them. Well, that is making hasty judgments –
that kind of quick-to-condemn-others attitude, that kind of
violence that wants to destroy others.
You know, the world and its majority have created laws
that try to keep individuals like us non-existent, because we
threaten the system that the major systems exist on. You could
say, “What if everybody in the world left their families and came
and followed Do?” Well, you don’t have to worry about that –
that’s not going to happen. You know, only a tiny, tiny little
fraction of the plants that are on the planet would ever be able to
make that transition from the human kingdom to the Kingdom of
Heaven. It’s the same in regard to giving up human ways. You
could say, “Well, what if everyone gave up their human and
mammalian reproductive activity – there wouldn’t be any humans
left.” Oh, then you don’t believe that the Kingdom Level Above
Human is capable of producing individuals? That they can’t
create or make them? That they are dependent upon the human
reproductive activity? You sure don’t give them credit for much.
They made the very first ones here. They even designed them with
a capacity to reproduce. If humans didn’t reproduce, the Next
Level could make as many as they want to. They always have
been able to do that. They’re not dependent upon humans for
Well, I know this could sound strange, but I wish you
could believe me. Why do I wish that you could believe me?
Because if you really believed me, you would look at what we
have to say. You know, this little classroom of students who are
about to move into the Level Above Human, following me out of
here – and we’re going to leave quickly – are doing everything
they can do to be non-human. That doesn’t mean that they are
uncaring. They are more sensitive than you can imagine. They
are more caring than you can imagine. The qualities that they have
exceed anything of your imagination – because they have listened
to and taken in information of the Next Level enough that they
believe it and it has become a part of them. And it means
everything to them. They know that by separating from the
world that the vehicles that they are wearing – the plants that they
are wearing – caused grief for individuals. There’s another aspect
to that: the Kingdom Level Above Human also sees to it that none
of those lives that were touched by that separation were damaged.
They may be temporarily hurt. That doesn’t mean they are
damaged. A lot of times – or all of the time – that kind of hurt can
lead to a greater positive for the individual who experiences the
pain of that separation.
Well, I started to tell you a minute or two ago, that we
created recently a website on Internet – one called “Heavensgate.”
We have put into Heavensgate just about everything we have to
say, as far as we are capable. The time I’m sitting with you is a
tiny little fragment of time. I couldn’t tell you all the things I
know if we sat for days and days and days. But if you want to
know more about us, if you can believe what I am telling you and
you want to know more about it, you can go to Heavensgate on the
Internet. You can pull down all kinds of stuff that we have
written, things that we have done, things about our history. We
even have a book that is available to you – I’m not going to spend
time now trying to sell you some book. But there is a book
available that you can find on the Heavensgate website.
I don’t want to take away from the seriousness of the
moment, because I am concerned that time is short. Again, the
topic of this tape is: Last chance to evacuate the human kingdom –
planet Earth – to get out of this space so that this garden can be
recycled. I hope for your sake that you have a degree of curiosity
about what I have said on this tape, so that you will look a little
deeper. If you condemn me thoroughly and call me the Anti-
Christ or whatever you want to call me, it’s not going to hurt me.
It’s going to hurt you. If you condemn us, you will be condemned.
Nothing can hurt us. The thing that we could experience here that
would be the most horrible thing, from your point of view, would
serve to help us get back to the Kingdom Level Above Human
more quickly, and that’s what we desire to do.
I know that the presentation of this little tape is not what I
would call skilled or polished. It doesn’t have the things that
humans like to see in their presentations. But I know that it has the
Truth. And that any of you who have a fragment of Truth in you
can connect with that Truth. And if you pursue that Truth, you
don’t have to worry about what is going to happen, for you will
have a future. You will be in the keeping of the Kingdom Level
Above Human. This I desperately, for your sake, hope you take
advantage of. And what happens to those who respond to us – one
way or the other – is all a part of the spading under, even what
may happen to us as a result of this little tape, or whatever
subsequent things that we do in relationship to you between now
and our departure.
I hope that you take advantage of this. I hope that I have
been a servant of the Next Level, and that you might somehow
come to know the Next Level through this meager effort.

letter to Nathaniel a fellow Ti and Do believer abroad asking how I am doing

September 26, 2013

Hi Nathaniel,

All is well in some ways but in turmoil in others as, though I sit in some comfort at my computer daily in my mountain hideaway and write the prophecy book and have occasional fun playing music and a little socializing, I feel there is much more I need to do and know it entails leaving this comfort zone without having that strong impetus that came when Ti and Do came to my town in Waldport to “catch us away” from our human lives, as most of us then wanted and were unattached enough to do, at least for me fairly easily compared to those that had families, kids, careers, and many of the human trappings. I always wondered why Do would say it was hard to break away and yet it didn’t seem that hard for me. I know it perhaps wasn’t equally hard for all, depending on what lessons they still needed coming into this environment as souls from the lesson time with Jesus, but for me and the Soul taking over my vehicle it’s tough to recon with leaving without a push. Perhaps the push will come and I don’t look forward to it, but then again at time do look forward to it. However the Next Level is gentle though know we students need prodding now and again as evidenced by 19 years with Them where mostly when Ti was still using her human vehicle was filled with that gentle prodding.

It is very mentally depleting to decipher prophecy and not settling on this or that meaning without giving it my best shot to learn what Ti and Do really intended that got recorded by disciple john in the revelations as to timing of events and stages and to whom and where they most apply, all of which are not generally static as it’s all a road map but like human road maps, having many turns that can result in the same destination whether in thought or in action with only two ultimate destinations between working for Ti and and Do or for all things human.

So the reasons I am here is very clear because for whatever reason I flunked out but flunking out does not mean not going back to school as many times as it takes to learn the lessons that resulted in the flunk out, but the longer one stays in a human lifestyle the harder to break away from it, one of the challenges, while also defining “breaking away” as one can break away while appearing to still be engaged, they just do so without too much change of their physical situation. This is my condition – feeling less and less able to related to things thought normal and yet really not able to say much about it without alienating people when they don’t feel the same way while also not judging that they should feel the same way. There are no should. It’s all a matter of what we want and who we look to and how bad we want to show our allegiance to our sense of the highest source in those I know to be Ti and Do but others have their own way of considering. Thus the way we live becomes a potential example of who we are attaching to even if we often stumble, part of being attached to Ti and Do is to admit stumbling to those we have involved in our stumble to seek their forgiveness and tolerance of us, even though they may or may not be stumbling just as much according to their lesson plan that can be at a different grade in school, yet not really able to be determined by us as for those that are given much, much more is required, so if we havn’t have the chance to SEE our stumbles are not the same as for those that have had the chance to SEE.

We are all judged and rewarded by our performance not by our experience.

I have lots of specifics I can go into, but they are not important. What is important is, not giving up and even if with a tiny bit of desire asking for help to take our next best step.

I am fairly certain that events will continue to intensify in the world and in space and the environment to where to deny that these are all fulfillments of prophecy will be absurd but certainly a choice, but for some will be their awakening to their next best step.

With these events will also come challenges as we who serve Ti and Do to whatever degree we seek to are targeted, right now in mental ways but soon to also be in physical ways as we do have to “live for Ti and Do’s service” that will result in giving our lives in all ways to show our graft is in place enough to be counted on their crew, for future lesson steps. I don’t count that as motivation consciously – “to be saved” – yet at the same time don’t want to die and I know that sense is not exclusively in reference to my vehicle as sometimes it feels more desirous to leave my vehicle, which is where my soul is speaking louder knowing what I (the soul) knows exists outside the vehicle in the Next Level environment that can’t be had unless we are outside our human vehicle.


New comment Predestination and Election: Who will hear the gospel and believe?

September 24, 2013

Below is my response to a users comment on the spirit of discernment blog to the subject of Predestination and election. The comment is listed after my response. If anyone wants to help with getting some of my responses to the blogs that many Christians visit, since a number of their site managers list me as a heratic, then I suggest you follow the blog and try to answer questions, moreorless sticking to what they ask as if they still have a mind to, they might see the MIND of Ti and Do in the response and could be drawn to look into things you post, which can be taken from what I post, if you like or of course from your own research of what Jesus said to address their questions. If one goes to these blogs and just tells them about Ti and Do, the blogger will likely not post your comment so it will be a wasted effort. So yes, I am suggesting a type of clandestine delivery of Ti and Do’s mind in the language (tongue) of Christianspeak. With that said, here is my comment response:

I know what I say is shunned, but that’s the choice of this blogger to allow my voice to be included or not. It’s the same way with the Kingdom of God. They keep on sending communication but if the “plants” in the garden, ignore or discount what’s being communicated, what are they to do to help with their questions. It’s always been a struggle to discern the Lord’s intention from certain scriptures, while for what Jesus said it’s very clear, so I’d recommend sticking with the “red letters” and you can be sure the rug won’t be pulled out from under another part of his words, except when we don’t really understand the full breath of his words, which is an ongoing challenge that we must encounter as that’s what growth towards grafting to HIM requires – we must rise to his full intention and it will always be both tasty to the mouth but difficult to digest as one will see that the ramifications mean we have to change and change is always tough, until we’ve changed and then it remains tough but we know it was worth the discomfort.
Jesus spoke about this idea that some would be “saved” and some would not. There really was never in his words an in between though there are degrees of “saved” as in first fruits as depicted in the two harvest periods of Rev 14, where the term “elect” is really only applicable to what we could think of as the second fruits, those that must experience the time of great trouble that we are in the midst of as we speak that there are many proves of. It’s where Jesus spoke of the tares, the seed planted by the enemy, the Luciferians that look like the wheat but are not. At harvest time, which is a period of time and like said, in two phases, the tares are pulled up first by the angels who I believe are the first fruits harvested first. This is also depicted throughout many scriptures and these are “burned”, and yes that is the lake of fire depiction and is also the second death being it’s the death of spirits and/or souls that chose to not pay attention to God’s many expressions over years time by his incarnate representatives that must always be seen as in opposition to all who have become entrenched in religion and spirituality and atheism, all really parts of the same mindset that chooses not to look at the real deal when they are making themselves known, not that those within these groups are doing anything wrong by seeking the truth through these avenues, as they all can be passed through when someone wants to know what is most real and true about the Kingdom of God/Heaven but become a negative when we cling to them, again fearing the changes that are a must when we choose to look at God’s new presentation, as was the case with all God’s servants and especially with Jesus and absolutely is the case with the Two Witnesses that are the depiction of the return of Father and Son together.
We all need to constantly rise to the awareness that this Earth is a garden. It’s not “heaven” though many of the plants (tares) are saying it can be a heaven. In a garden there are only plants that are yielding fruit and those that are not. Is it cruel to toss those that are not into the compost heap? To leave them can choke off nutrients from the fruit and the fruit is the objective. God’s love is such that even the tares get the opportunity though they don’t want it, but I suppose there might be exceptions as even the tares have in their core a type of remembrance of the source of their existence before they became tares because “evil” was also created by the Lord to provide his garden plants with the choice, the free will to become whatever they wanted to become, while offering His Kingdom.

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September 17, 2013

The following was written by Do, I am simply reprinting:

(original posted to the World Wide Web) October 11, 1995
(slightly edited) January 1997


1. In the early 1970’s, two individuals (my task partner and myself)
from the Evolutionary Level Above Human (the Kingdom of Heaven)
incarnated into (moved into and took over) two human bodies that
were in their forties. I moved into a male body, and my partner,
who is an Older Member in the Level Above Human, took a female body.
(We called these bodies “vehicles,” for they simply served as physical
vehicular tools for us to wear while on a task among humans. They
had been tagged and set aside for our use since their birth.)
2. We brought to Earth with us a crew of students whom we had worked
with (nurtured) on Earth in previous missions. They were in varying
stages of metamorphic transition from membership in the human kingdom
to membership in the physical Evolutionary Level Above Human (what
your history refers to as the Kingdom of God or Kingdom of Heaven).

3. It seems that we arrived in Earth’s atmosphere between Earth’s 1940’s
and early 1990’s. We suspect that many of us arrived in staged
spacecraft (UFO) crashes and many of our discarded bodies (genderless,
not belonging to the human species), were retrieved by human
authorities (government and military).

4. Other crews from the Level Above Human preceded our arrival and
“tagged” – placed a deposit “chip” – in each of the vehicles (bodies)
that we would individually incarnate into, when that instruction would
be given. These “chips” set aside those bodies for us.
5. We feel that while we were “out of body” between arrival and
incarnation, we were thoroughly briefed and were taken through an
extensive preview of places and events that would assist our individual
incarnation process of bringing our mind our consciousness – into the
vehicle (body) and overriding the mind of the human “plant” (or
container) that each of us was to use. This incarnation process is
very difficult and cannot be done without the help of Older Members of
the Evolutionary Level Above Human who have not only gone through the
metamorphic transition to completion themselves, but who have also
assisted others through this transition before (acting as “midwives”
for some in the shedding of their human-creature characteristics while
preparing to be born as new creatures into the Next Evolutionary
6. The true Kingdom of God – the real physical Kingdom of Heaven – the
Evolutionary Level Above Human – are completely synonymous. As a
genderless Kingdom, it “reproduces” or adds to its Kingdom membership
through the use of this metamorphic process. This Next Level Kingdom
created all that is – including all the paths that lead to decay and
destruction, for the creatures it creates are created with free will –
an ever-present option to choose the direction to take at any juncture
or moment of decision.
7. The metamorphic “birth” into the Level Above Human occurs as follows:
In any given civilization on a fertile planet such as Earth (and Earth
has had many periodic/cyclical civilizations), the Level Above Human
plants all the new life forms (including humans) for that civilization
in a neutral condition so that they have a chance to choose the
direction of their growth. The Level Above Human – or Next Level –
directly (hands on) relates significantly to the civilization at its
beginning stage, and subsequently (with few exceptions) at approximately
2000-year intervals (48-hour intervals from a Next Level perspective)
until that civilization’s final “Age.”
8. Each time the Next Level relates directly to any portion of that
civilization, “deposits” containing “souls” (the “seed” or “chip” with
a program of metamorphic possibilities) are placed in many human plants.
This deposit is potentially the “gift of life” into the physical and
real Evolutionary Level Above Human. These deposits are given or made
only when members of the Level Above Human are assigned to directly
relate to (be incarnate in) the civilization. Only these Represent-
atives can “nurture” those deposited souls with Next Level thinking,
behavior, and all the information required to effectively “fluff off”
all human/mammalian characteristics of the old creature. (A potential
creature of the Next Level cannot cling to human ways any more than a
butterfly can cling to caterpillar ways.) So, when a Representative
from that Kingdom is present – that “Rep’s” nurturing (teaching) is a
“window” for exiting the human kingdom for all who have been given
deposits/souls. These deposits are made only in vehicles (bodies)
that are “old enough” – having grown or matured enough – for self-
determination or responsibility.

9. Humans with deposits containing souls can likely be identified at this
time as some of those who are rapidly losing respect for this world or
its “system.” They are, from the establishment’s point of view,
being irresponsible or anti-social – and will be seen by the world
as duped, crazy, a cult member, a drifter, a loner, a drop-out, a
separatist, etc.
10. Not only is the body, in a sense, the temporary container for the
soul, but even more importantly – the soul is the housing or container
of the new creature. The soul has its own “brain” or “hard drive”
that accumulates only information of the Next Level – mundane as well
as theoretical or philosophical. The soul also becomes part of the new
physical body of the new creature, though it is seldom seen by human
eyes. Therefore, when a soul is a part of a new deposit, it has very
little information and is as a very small Next Level “fetus.” As it
develops or grows in size, it necessitates the abortion of the human
mind, which is in a container beside it. If you think of a glass vase
that has two balloons in it, one balloon is the human mind, the other
is the Next Level mind. When the Next Level makes a “soul deposit,”
it is like placing the second balloon in the glass vase. So, when
metamorphosis begins, the human mind (balloon) is all but filling the
container, and the Next Level mind or soul is all but empty. As the
Next Level mind increases – and the soul begins to grow larger –
the human-mind container or balloon decreases until, if the Next
Level mind successfully makes it to “term,” the human deflated balloon
is discarded and the Next Level balloon (with Next Level mind) is all
that fills the container, or glass vase. That soul with its Next
Level mind has by then become a physical body in a new species (the
Level Above Human), needing only a new physical outer shell, which
it receives as a “quartermaster issue” upon physically entering the
Next Level.
The final act of metamorphosis or separation from the human kingdom is
the “disconnect” or separation from the human physical container or
body in order to be released from the human environment and enter the
“next” world or physical environment of the Next Level. This will be
done under the supervision of Members of the Next Level in a clinical
procedure. We will rendezvous in the “clouds” (a giant mothership)
for our briefing and journey to the Kingdom of the Literal Heavens.

11. Metamorphosis is not ordinarily accomplishable during only one period
of visitation from the Level Above Human. Therefore, the deposit task
at each visitation includes deposits with “programs” for returnees who
are still in “forward motion.”
12. At the end of the Age or civilization (where we are now), it seems that
all souls that were deposited in any part of the present civilization
are brought back. Between visitations, “faithful” souls are “put on
ice,” so to speak – in the keeping of the Level Above Human, to be
re-deposited and again incarnated during the next visitation. So, at
this time we have both “faithful” souls who might be in the third
“trimester” of their metamorphosis preparing for the final test before
“emerging” in their new physical body belonging to the Next Level, and
we also have all those souls who have “fallen away” during this
civilization’s visitations. Even they now have a chance at
13. The requirement is the same for all who might expect to find themselves
in the safekeeping of the Level Above Human – each must proceed in the
forsaking of all human ways, ties, addictions, thinking, gender behavior
(sexuality), and be in the forward motion of becoming this new creature
(literally and physically belonging to the Kingdom Level Above Human).
(Some in the class have chosen on their own to have their vehicles
neutered in order to sustain a more genderless and objective
consciousness.) The overcoming process can only be accomplished in the
care, keeping, and tutorship of the present (incarnate) Representative(s)
of that Next Kingdom.
14. Humans in any given time seem to fall in one of three categories:
i) Humans without deposits – those who are simply “plants” )a part of
the various levels of human “plant” life) containing the mind or
program of their genetic information combined with their brain’s
interpretation of the information of their current body’s
ii) those with deposits/souls who are receiving nourishment from the
present Rep(s) toward metamorphic completion, and
iii) those with deposits/souls who are not in a classroom nor in a
direct relationship with the Representative(s) from the Level
Beyond Human, having:
a) not been confronted with the information and the Rep(s), or
b) been confronted but have chosen not to “pursue.”

15. Now that we are here again, how an individual responds to us and our
information will, in fact, judge that individual as to whether he or
she will or will not have a further relationship with the Next Level.
In other words, coming in contact with this information will force a
decision for all with souls, and the stand they individually take will
judge or determine their future. Remember, even those who have fallen
away are being given an opportunity at this time to be reconciled or
16. Those with souls — who fall away — become a part of the opposition
to the Next Level. Once, in a prior civilization, records suggest that
a third of the class fell and the strongest, and thereby leader of those
fallen, was called “Lucifer” (or Satan). Even today they occupy the
near heavens as what humans refer to as “space aliens.” They also
burrow in bases underground and participate in genetic manipulation
and hybridization with humans, and attempt to recruit (while remaining
among the “unseen”) those humans with souls who are unstable or weak
in their pursuit of the true Kingdom of Heaven. These “Luciferians”
(for the most part from the “unseen” world) started all religions and
masquerade as “gods” to humans. They offer to humans (who are
unknowingly praying to them) whatever material gains they desire.
These “Luciferians” and their devotees preach “Heaven on Earth,”
“Peace among men,” and a long and healthy life in the human condition,
and are determined to take the steps to make the inhabitants of the
planet subservient to their “ideal” mammalian ethic – destructive to
the natural evolutionary processes, and abhorrent to the Kingdom Level
Above Human. These “fallen angels” unknowingly also SERVE the Next
Level — for as the aspirants to the Level Above Human apply the
necessary effort to rise above “this world” — they gain the strength
to enter the “Next World.”
17. Where the space aliens have a major stronghold in playing “God” is
through those humans with the most power. The power is the strongest
among the very rich and the very righteous (their self-styled religion)
who accept that it is their (“God-given”) responsibility to maintain the
world’s stability – judged, of course, by whatever actions are necessary
to maintain and increase that power. These powerful individuals have a
loose-knit world-wide “club” that for the most part dictates who their
primary “monopoly” players are – those leaders in the “significant” or
strong societies or cultures. Government leaders, the very rich, and the
world’s righteous or “moral” leaders need each other to accomplish their
desired ends. They together really determine what is “right” and “wrong”
for the populace as a whole, for they trust their overview (and needless
to say, it is motivated, for it makes the rich richer, the political more
powerful, while offering sufficient “moral consciousness” to nurture a
guiltless society). This “morality call” translates down to every level
of society’s structure, i.e., its laws, its permissiveness, and its
intolerance. The governments’ law enforcers see to it that nothing is
permitted to significantly threaten the rules of the “big bedfellows'”
morality – which is no morality at all, but the long list of do’s and
don’ts which protect the money flow, secure the power players, and
sustain the acceptable morality code. Any little group that isn’t
naively, totally submissive to their social rules, or begins to see
through this “control mechanism,” or questions its rightness, is seen as
subversive, radical, anti-social, a cult, or even treasonous – or
potentially “terrorists.”

18. It is a fact of record that a number of space alien groups or “races”
have related to humans as recently as the past few decades for various
reasons. These ranged from “deals” of mutual benefit – trading
spacecraft technology for uninterrupted genetic experimentation – to
missions of “spiritual enlightenment.” All of these activities are far
beneath Next Level interests or activity and are, in fact, diversionary
efforts of the space aliens to have humans look to them at a time that
our return presence was imminent.
19. The space aliens have very successfully, through their religions,
totally confused the humans’ concept of “God” or “Deity.”
(These religions were begun as major distortions immediately
following any visitation of the Next Level.) The Next Level
abhors religions, for they bind humans more thoroughly to the
human kingdom, using strong misinformation mixed with cosmic or
universal consciousness of Creation, about which, in truth,
they know nothing. Some of their Christians say that God was
incarnate as Jesus – though He knew that His Father was clearly
a separate entity, even when His Father’s mind was in Him.
Luciferians now answer the Christians’ (as well as all other
religions’) prayers or requests as they promote enriching their
human lives and having them seek a “Heaven on Earth” and a type of
Second Coming that would clearly be abominable to the Next Level.
Only the Luciferians could have Christians believing that Jesus
promoted family values, becoming better humans, establishing
professional religious institutions, and looking for the Second
Coming of some flowing-robed, peace-and-love manifestation of
their artists’ conceptions.
Most religious think of a Kingdom of God, though it doesn’t
register to them that that Kingdom has many members. They feel
that if you acknowledge “many members” in the Kingdom of God,
then you would be acknowledging a pantheism. Any time any member
of the Next Level is assigned a task to relate to humans directly,
since he is of the Kingdom of God, he is rightfully “God” to them,
for he is the member of the Evolutionary Level Above Human
(“Kingdom of God”) who is relating to them. This is not to say
that there is not in the Next Level a “Chief of Chiefs” or one who
is Supreme. Luciferians have had humans spiritualize and elevate
that spiritual feeling for the word “God” so that no member of the
Next Level would want to identify as one of those members of the
Kingdom of God. The irony is that humans pray to the masquerading
“gods” – space aliens – who have many “superior” beings in their
different races and subraces. So, humans are unknowingly praying
to different “gods” of many “gods.” Of course, none of these are,
in fact, “Gods” – other than self-appointed. (They are simply
humanoid remnants from previous civilizations that are allowed to
exist as a part of the balance of positive and negative presences,
and allowing a full range of free-will options.)

The Next Level is not into rituals, or spiritual inflation of
stature, though it’s true that younger members learn to be
respectful and acknowledge the wisdom and serviceability of Older
Members in the Next Level. Where one can fall from progressing
in the Next Level is to slip into believing that he can grow on
his own. The only way an individual can grow in the Next Level
is to learn to be dependent on his Older Member as that source
of unlimited growth and knowledge. So, any younger member in
good standing, forever remains totally dependent upon (and
looks to) his Older Member for all things.

20. Since this is the close of the Age, the battle in the Heavens
with their servants on Earth will be the means of that closing
and the spading under of the plants (including the humans) of
this civilization. “Weeds” are now getting rid of weeds – from
gang wars to nations involved in ethnic cleansing. This is
simply a part of the natural recycling process which precedes a
restoration period of the planet in preparation for another
civilization’s beginning.

21. If you connect with this information – if you attempt to connect
with us in your desire to leave your humanness behind and link
with the Evolutionary Level Above Human – you may encounter what
seems to be insurmountable tests. You can imagine the “fallout”
of your separation. You may even be faced with the possibility
of losing the body you are “wearing” in the demonstration of your
faithfulness. We can take you through all of these trials – they
are designed to offer you strength and resolve.
22. If you expect to go with us in our spacecrafts headed for our
“world” and the only true Kingdom Level Above Human, you will
likely have to physically engage in preparedness and readiness
for that departure. That readiness should not be interfered with
by the servants of this world.
I find it all but impossible to present these truths to you in a way that
might stand a chance to survive the avalanche of thoughts from the
opposition that would do anything in their power to prevent your
separation from their world and your physical life in it. I hope that
my Older Member’s mercy will give you strength. If you care to speak to
me in your thoughts, I answer to “Do” (pronounced Doe). The name
itself means nothing, but I connect with it for it was agreed upon for
my usage by my Older Member “Ti” (pronounced Tee). Ti stayed with me,
setting an example and preparing me for this present responsibility
until 1985, and then separated from her borrowed human container and
returned to the Next Level. (If we’re not mistaken, our entire classroom
task here from 1975 until the present has only been about 30 minutes by
Next Level reckoning.)

If you have grown to hate your life in this world and would lose it for
the sake of the Next Level, you will find true life with us – potentially
forever. If you cling to this life —- will you not lose it?

Section 1 – Page 4

Who are the “ELECT” and is there predestination

September 13, 2013

Below is a comment I posted to a blog, entitled “spirit of discernment” that is maintained by a person I only know of as Henry, who has been a popular Christian blogger who in times past banned me from commenting but I arrived at through another blogger that has enjoyed my posts even though doesn’t hold my beliefs about Ti and Do. So I’ve posted my comment here for those that follow my blog and in case Henry doesn’t permit my comment. It’s on the subject of “Election, as in the Elect and Predestination” so may be helpful for others that talk with Christians to consider though I didn’t document everything scripturally yet. In the post I’m commenting on very little was said but referred to Paul of Tarsus letter to “Romans” that I’m sure you can find by searching scripture using the key word “elect”. For those that do want to serve Ti and Do by providing Christians with ways of looking at the New Testament, I suggest following Henry’s blog, as well as another called, Historicist and another by a popular avant garde blogger named Marzulli, all three of which I have been banned from. I don’t care to change these bloggers minds but often there are thirsty Christians that visit their sites so is a way of simply making Ti and Do’s mind available. What they do with it is then in their hands though one needs to be prepared to do some research into what they say to talk their language (tongue) to give them a chance to hear more truthful talk that Ti and Do brought. If nothing more it can serve as a seed as we don’t know for how long Ti and Do will continue to provide avenues to learn about them and decide who to give our allegiance to, the Next Level through Ti and Do or to Mammon (what are the treasures of human mammalianism).

Sawyer’s comment:

First off, Paul of Tarsus, alleged author of the letter to those called the Romans is among the least of the authors of anything attributed to what Jesus said and did, while among most Christians is by in large the most quoted and studied. I have as many examples of how distant he was from what Jesus taught as the words he used in all his letters. However the evidence suggests he had a relationship with Peter, an assigned delegate (assigned task to disseminate what Jesus said/taught because he had the firsthand experience necessary for the task) of Jesus, thus no doubt what he did gleen about Jesus was likely his main source. With that said the idea of “election” has to do with those who “elected” to seek out what Jesus taught, which in so doing become elected by the Kingdom of God/Heaven to receive the help to further advance what they have asked for in their seeking.

Thus there is no predestination in this way as we each have the free will to choose what we seek and in so doing receive or don’t what the Kingdom of God/Heaven is eager to provide us. Thus it’s our choice to elect ourselves and this is a day by day mindset. There is no tenure in this election. We are elected as long as we seek to be and seeking to be isn’t just about “belief” and talking about the Kingdom of God/Heaven – it’s about continuing to seek and ask for ways to grow “belief” into offering ourselves in service to the Lord, the one assigned as our Heavenly Father by the “big daddy”, the Oldest Member of the Kingdom of God/Heaven, by our “in secret” petitioning (prayers) that cease to be genuine if what we say becomes meaningless repetition as we see used in the religions.
The only predestination among humans is that their physical bodies will die, though along the way there are many characteristics of our genetic makeup and environment that are as programs that we become influenced by and create habits of thought and action around. These can then seem like pre-destination but can be reversed by choice by seeking the help from the Kingdom of God/Heaven that includes what was taught by the incarnate representatives throughout history. Seeking the help from the Lord in this respect may or may not be conscious. For instance for some ailments fasting is a solution which people may or may not recognize came initially from the Kingdom of God/Heaven as well as all the elements on the planet, though in the records it will seem that this or that human discovered the solution. Of course, we do get things via fellow humans but humans are never the ultimate source. In the Book of Enoch it’s said that the “fallen angel (watchers)” taught humans healing arts, etc., but they were not the original source either. Everything must eventually lead to the Above Human beings in the Creators’ many membered Physical Kingdom – the organization from which these aspiring and apprenticing (angels) fell away from seeking their continued “election” to remain grafted to.

Now where the idea of “elect” also refers: When the members of the Kingdom of God/Heaven, actually in more accurate terminology a Physical Evolutionary Level Above Human, observe a human being seeking to learn more about them and their reality in whatever terms they think of; Lord, Creator, God, Allah, Vishnu, Heavenly Father, etc., when the soul growing garden schedule is set to provide one of their Older Members to incarnate (take a flesh body) as in the parable of the seed planter Jesus illustrated, those on the Next Level crew assigned that task literally go to each specific individual who had been asking/seeking or knocking in their way that doesn’t have to include religio-spiritual terminology to give them a “seed”. The seed is a literal physical (but far less dense physicality than can not be seen or disturbed by denser physical structures) container that has with it a set of programs that provide more facility for greater interface with one’s Heavenly Father, to receive more of their “holy” Mind/Spirit. The provision of this seed is like a tag, even a “chip” as in computer chip and has come down in history as a “soul” in the English language. It is that seed that then can be grown into a new physical and even more dense “body” that at harvest time is harvested by the death of the human physical body it was attached to, and taken into the keeping of a Next Level crew.

However that seed is given when it can be grown, which only takes place when the incarnate Older member provides their teachings by Their words and demonstration of the behavior and ways of their Above Human Family, the Kingdom of God/Heaven, the next step for a human as the Earth and human kingdom are but stepping stones to that next evolutionary level. It’s an evolution both of Mind and Body because upon graduation (harvest) if one’s soul has become viable, they are provided a new dense physical body MADE for them that is appropriate to their new environment on spacecrafts and in laboratories throughout the literal “heaven’s” (outer space).
Those humans that don’t reject this seed by rejecting the information and teachings of the incarnate Older Member who came incarnate are provided ample opportunities to proceed to that graduation which will entail severing all their roots to the human kingdom. In other words, the incarnate Older Member will require students to leave all their humanness behind to be their student and literally go with them, “follow the lamb wherever he goes”. They will also be required to cease functioning in human mammalian ways, thus no reproductive activity, no sexuality or any forms of sensuality and giving of their energy to fellow humans as it’s time for them to graft to their Older Member’s family, though that Older Member will assign them tasks to serve future members to the Next Level, mostly by the provision of the same information that incarnate Older Member provides.

The task of disseminating the Older Member’s teachings continues after that Older Member has exited their incarnation, at which time many seeds are still able to be planted by the invisible crew assigned that task, when humans come in contact with the truths provided by the spreading of the Older Member’s Mind/Words, teachings that will be identical to the intentions of previous incarnate Older Members, Jesus being the last one before the Two Witnesses depicted in Revelations, His successors, in Their case being both the Father and Son coming incarnate together.

All the souls that were grown during previous incarnate Older Member periods are saved in soul form and brought back to have their next appropriate growth experience as a human being provided with that soul seed as a soul can not be brought to harvest in one season, which is where the idea or reincarnation came from but was spoken of as resurrection in the religious records but has become distorted into various opinions of what it represents that would require a lengthy discussion to distinguish.

Thus, all humans who elect to be in service to the Kingdom of God/Heaven become recipients of not only their own soul seed, but become hosts to a returning Soul who is being advanced to harvest during that time of the Older Member’s incarnation. This is what was meant by Jesus talk about a disciple becoming a producer of fruit as they are themselves (the human with the new soul seed) fruit but are also in so doing providing the avenue of growth of overcoming humanness to the more elder soul and by their dissemination of information opening up the avenues for non-seeded humans to be seeded with a soul (fruit).

Much of this has become twisted by the lower forces who serve the Next Level Older Members unwittingly but is being clarified at this time because of the fact that the Two Witnesses came incarnate, known by the names Ti and Do, who have exited their incarnation with their firstfruit harvest while leaving behind their records that some have chose to disseminate in preparation for the second scheduled harvest period that will resemble the harvest period following Jesus exit when Jesus disciples were largely hated by establishment religionists but who had grown and elected to serve him by spreading his information that Jesus knew would also result in their loss of their physical human life over as they too would be hated for disturbing what had become a faith in name only.

The data that Ti and Do brought is still being retained on the web site though there is no new group nor leaders nor duplication of their means of exit. It’s up to each individual to seek/elect themselves to be elected to receive and/or grow their already received soul seed by learning all they brought and seeking our then more real interface with Ti and Do that will lead to the willingness to share Their information with others as it feels appropriate to do so even though it will often not be received and thus will be a means to our own disconnect from our human roots to maintain.

Response to x-Ti Do believers website against Heaven’s Gate

September 4, 2013

At the end of this post there is a web site link to an x-Ti and Do believers now anti Ti and Do Heaven’s Gate web site who says he was in the class for 5 years. He is saying that Do lost his way and was taken over by demons after Ti left, a common attitute that Rob Balch and others have adopted that frankly isn’t evidenced when people consider all I can bring to the table of the time before Ti exited and when Do and Crew exited. So I have begun to respond to this x-student of theirs about this:

Before giving the link I am providing text from the website and my responses and questions for this individual:

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About the Heaven’s Gate Cult

About Co-Founder Bonnie Nettles

Bonnie Nettles (also known as Peep), was a co-founder for the cult Heaven’s Gate. We had something in common: we were both astrologers. Peep was always asking me when the stars were going to line up for our departure in the UFO. Peep knew that I made predictions using astrology. My first prediction was in May of 1980 when Mount St. Helens erupted, I was off by two days. In 1989, on October 19, the Loma Prieta earthquake in California happened. I saw it coming four years before it happened, but I was 20 days off.

After Bonnie Nettles died in the mid-1980s at 43 years old, co-founder Applewhite (also known as Bo) was their teacher. He had lost his ability as a teacher and was tricked by a demon, which caused him to lose his contact with God. From that time on, his lessons were from the dark side and they all lost their Light from God.

A Message from Peep

Peep (Bonnie Nettles) contacted me when she passed away to tell me something evil entered Applewhite, a demon. A demon is 10 times stronger than a person. Their power is deception, wickedness, evil, and trickery.

Applewhite was tricked into thinking that he was in contact with the Overseers in the UFO from the Kingdom of God. Peep could no longer talk to Applewhite from beyond the grave. She tried many times to tell Applewhite the truth, but the demon was too powerful.

When Peep passed away, she did not go into the light. She is now a free spirit. She wants everyone to know she had nothing to do with getting the students to take their own lives. She cannot go
into the light until her name is cleared.

UFOs, God, & Heaven’s Gate:

UFOs & Heaven’s Gate

Some UFOs come from God. They are there to protect, shield, and defend mankind and our planet. The Overseers did an experiment with the Heaven’s Gate class. They wanted to see if we were able to become completely free of all unclean thoughts and spirits. In order to carry out this experiment, they made Heaven’s Gate into a classroom.

Since Bonnie was telepathic, she was in contact with the Overseers and would give us lessons on how to be free of unclean spirits. Every 12 minutes, we would talk to God for one full minute to ask Him to help us overcome and to free us from unclean spirits. After Bonnie died in 1985, a demon tricked Applewhite, the co-founder of Heaven’s Gate. From then on, the lessons were all dark and everyone lost their Light.

The Right Path

While I was with them for about five years, Bo and Peep were on the right path. Had they stayed on the same path, they would have made it to the Kingdom of God.

We would have all been accepted when God came because we were free of all unclean spirits, un-pure thoughts, and our vibrations were very high. Since Bo took his own life, he was taken “downstairs”, where all things evil stay forever. This story needs to be told so that my classmate’s experience was not in vain.

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The Overseer’s Message

When I was 39 years old, a year after I left the Heaven’s Gate cult, the Overseers made contact with me because I lost my way and connection with God. For three hours, they communicated with me telepathically, and eventually the dark cloud was lifted from me. The Lord found me when I was lost.

After this, the Overseers told me to warn the world of what is to come. They said starting in the year 2000, a holy war will begin between good and evil. Because of all the unclean forces and spirits, the evil ones will feed on all the raw, negative energy. The energy is 10 times more negative than it has been for the past thousand years. Every year, the negative energy will get worse until God comes. Mankind is now on trial. If you have negative thoughts, you also have unclean spirits inside of you.

Get Rid of Unclean Spirits

In order to get rid of them, take one minute to ask God for his help. If they won’t go away, praise God loudly from all your heart and when the Holy Ghost enters you, the unclean spirits will leave you. In order to keep bad spirits out, you must have positive thoughts.

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The Truth About Heaven’s Gate

Learn all about the secrets of religious cults with help from Heaven’s Gate Cult – The Truth. My name is Robert. When I was 55 years old, all 39 of my ex-classmates took their own lives on a promise from Applewhite, the cult leader. Applewhite told them there was a UFO hiding behind the Hale-Bopp comet, waiting to give them a new body so they could become members of the Kingdom of God.

Applewhite promised them God would take good care of their families after they were gone. My dead classmates came to me and my wife because we can talk to spirits and angels. I promised them I would share the real story of what happened to them.

UFOs & The Kingdom of God

Cleanse Yourself

Find out how God’s Overseers protect us with my help. I share information about how UFOs and the Kingdom of God are related.

Protect yourself from the tricks of demons and unclean spirits. With my advice, you’re sure to cleanse your body of all negative energy.

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About Me

Discover the truth about religious cults and send generous donations to those in need with help from Heaven’s Gate Cult – The Truth in Novato, California. My name is Robert. For more than 20 years, I’ve been sharing the untold story of what really happened to the students of the Heaven’s Gate cult and how all 39 of these classmates were tricked into taking their own lives. I am trying to get the message out to everyone so that donations can be made to the families of the deceased.

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My first comment to this person, apparantly assumes wrongly that this is the work of someone named Joan. I don’t know who it is yet but have asked him, not for a human name but for his “ody” name among other questions and comments.

** Sawyer’s comments **

Hello – I assume, perhaps incorrectly that Joan is behind this. For what it’s worth since their exit Ti has contacted me three times. The first time was after 9/11/2001 as I took that as an “apocalyptic” event and in that contact she approved of my beginning to “write” about my 19 years experience their dedicated student. The 2nd time both in very vivid dreams, I don’t recall the message unfortunately but awoke and clearly saw a Luciferian glide through my room, followed by many other spirit sightings while fully awake. The third was recently and felt supportive of my work for them now. If as you say, and others like to believe that Do departed from his course with Ti, how do you explain Ti’s telling the class in 1978 that the students “needed to give their will” to them? Wouldn’t that have been a departure from the previous motis operandi you experienced? Wouldn’t that be seen as a step to leading them to lay down their lives. And considering they were claiming to be the fulfillments of what The Father and Jesus taught, why would laying down their lives seem like a departure from what They taught through Jesus? Also, did you experience how Ti trusted Do? She trusted him so much that she instructed all the students to make their commitments to him. She told us that Do was uncomfortable asking us for our commitment to him, though he knew it was something we needed to learn. I have also had a number of contacts from Do and from a handful of students over the years, each time answering my questions. Plus they have given me premonitions that came true that I documented but I could care less about using as proof of our relationship. You are right, Ti did not go to the “light” as that is perhaps where spirits are dissolved. She went on their spacecraft. I’m sorry that your stand is being made for the wrong side of goodness, but I am willing to help you see it if you want to. I understand that the Luciferian fallen angel space aliens are very powerful, as they put me to the test that I actually asked for arrogantly and failed to handle because my ego was in the way. They like to hold onto any they can have a hold on to keep them away from Ti and Do’s crew and service. It’s easy to hate them or pretend that Do’s at fault as there are many that will support you in that thinking so you can make a name for yourself in that regard, if that is what you seek or perhaps think you are saving others from what… themselves, as each of those students, of which I can speak to knowing well most and knowing a little all but one, were by far no pushovers in any way and I am an example of them. For all intents and purposes I couldn’t have left them if they had the hold on me most say they had. And I can say the same for all of the elder student dropouts, whom for those who are still alive I know and am in contact with at times. I could say a great deal more but will save it in case you don’t care to hear more. I feel like I know you somehow and I don’t think poorly of you at all but it’s clear you are following very evil minded voices to say you represent Heaven’s gate truth while spreading lies and innuendo of deceit about both Ti and Do. It’s not too late to reverse your decisions in this regard. I suggest you talk to Ti about it and not accept a phony “Ti” however you perceive Ti to be. I hope their peace can come upon you.

My next comments were more thought out:

You said, “Every 12 minutes, we would talk to God for one full minute to ask Him to help us overcome and to free us from unclean spirits. After Bonnie died in 1985, a demon tricked Applewhite, the co-founder of Heaven’s Gate. From then on, the lessons were all dark and everyone lost their Light.”

1) What are your examples of the lessons that were dark and how everyone lost their light?

2) Were you in the class when we moved into houses in Colorado?

3) Why did you leave, and from where if you don’t mind saying?

4) Do you know relatives of those who laid down their lives?

5) By the time of 12 minute “checks”, which were put into place so we would get in the habit of asking for service. And by then, we were literally instructed to talk to Ti and Do. Remember in Mississippi campground where they had us out loud say something to the affect of, “Ti and Do, isn’t there some way I can grow faster…”. Sure they never told us not to talk to “God” but not at all just during that minute. In terms of keeping influences at bay (evil spirits) that was something to constantly work against not at all just during 12 minute checks.

I can understand your not understanding and/or remembering much of this as that was the beginning and many students even there years longer than you misunderstood a great deal of what Ti and Do taught over the years. After I left the class, it took me 10 years to come to terms with the real reasons I had to leave as I never disbelieved in them, except to the degree I failed to maintain some of my overcoming disciplines because I was not aware that I had a egotistical influence that wanted to shine. Then in 97′ when they exited I had to come public with what I knew though I had no sense of wanting to return to their service or studentship by then, nor thereafter until I began having them in dreams, lots of them, very specific and very clear and not at all symbolic or abstract.

So I gradually allowed myself to feel connected again and when I would read certain things they said, it would hit me that at the time, when I was there hearing these things, I was only absorbing a tiny percentage of what they were saying and/or assuming I understood when I didn’t.

Not too long ago I spoke with Andody about his understanding of our intention when we fasted in the desert, on water and I learned that he had a totally different understanding. In fact he didn’t seem to have heard what I heard about it. If we were in a meeting, many were hearing other thoughts while they spoke and then would get a partial message.

Anyway, I’m not finding fault with what I believe are misunderstandings and I know we all have influences to work against and we tend to accept certain ones and some of them can even twist their way into a juxtaposed sense of service to the One true Lord when it’s the wrong Lord, that is, if we want to serve the highest Lord, the overseers as you seem to call them. Well, the “watchers” were “overseers” – the same kind of terminology actually, so whoever it is that gave you your sense of higher consciousness was probably one of those who fell as we in the class were a prize for them to take over.

But it is part of my job to tell the truth about my recollections of all that happened in the 19 years I was their student and how that applies now that I have re-committed to Ti and Do’s service and they have informed me of my acceptance on the crew, as long as I continue to look to Them and do the work they have asked me to do now – spreading their information.

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And here is the link to the site: