‘UNDERCOVER “JESUS” SURFACES BEFORE DEPARTURE’ (posted by Do and Crew in 1995 – The Sixth Thunder

August 24, 2016

Sawyer at Heaven's Gate

Statement posted to the World  Wide Web and to 95 specific  newsgroups on the Internet  (edited/updated) January 1997:

UNDERCOVER “JESUS” SURFACES BEFORE DEPARTURE

A member of the Kingdom of God — the Evolutionary Level Above Human —  I, who am called Do, acknowledge that:

1. I am about to return to my Father’s Kingdom.

A. This “return” requires that I prepare to lay down my borrowed
human body in order to take up, or reenter, my body
(biological) belonging to the Kingdom of God (as I did approx-
imately 2000 years ago, as Jesus, when I laid down the human
body that was about 33 years old in order to reenter my body
belonging to the Kingdom of Heaven).

B. The Evolutionary Level Above Human is a physical Kingdom
Level in the physical Heavens or space, though individuals in
that Kingdom identify with their soul – and its mind or spirit…

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Critique of “thenextweb” 2015 article on Heaven’s Gate

August 5, 2016

Below the link is my critique of an article about Heaven’s Gate that included comments from the current Heavensgate.com webmasters I call M & S:

(Before I start…there is an ongoing theme I keep hearing from even would be believers in Ti and Do that says – there is no classroom anymore so nothing to join and thereby nothing to do as we will just have to wait to reincarnate when a REP is incarnate again. This is a HUGE programming against the Next Level that is a Luciferian Space Alien agenda to promote and instill in even those who are most in line to become new prospective Members of the Next Level. People are blinded in many ways and this is just one more that M (and I presume S) are promoting in most every interview I hear that they gave, (along with other things that are against what Ti and Do taught, like saying there is no Heaven and no Hell for instance). It is so abundantly clear to me that all of us must “stand in defense of and for Ti and Do and maintain that stand until our exit of our vehicle” as the overall minimum requirement to be included in the group of Souls who are taken off the earth when the rest are recycled. The maximum giving will be to seperate from all our humanness, adopt all the behaviors and ways Ti and Do taught and stand for Ti and Do despite the consequences. Those when they are taken off the planet it seems from prophecy get awarded with what I think would be a student level Next Level made physical vehicle and service for continued lessons until they are given the chance to graduate to an adult Next Level vehicle.

Yes, every indication is that, this will be in affect for even 1000 earth years after it’s DONE – which may be only a decade or two away, so it would seem some Souls may be given some lessons in new human vehicles during that 1000 years as part of their service/lessons and may have some interaction with Next Level Older Membes Ti and/or Do. I say this because of the Revelations Prophecies and from everything Do and Ti and Jesus and Moses said and did. For every point mentioned here there are at least three direct depictions in the Book of Revelations that Ti and Do said in 1974-6, via the document they wrote and had published as part the book UFO Missionaries Extraordinary, though have also been given by Do (and Ti) in little clues throughout their years incarnate.

Anyone who indicates there is nothing to do going forward, but perhaps make Ti and Do’s records into a study is participating knowingly or not in a Luciferian space alien misinformation campaign intending to even agree with most everything except seeking to connect with Ti and Do to ask to make application to be in their service and to hit the deck running to start our own forward motion in that service.)

The curious online afterlife of a 20th century suicide cult

1) It was reported that M and S (current names I use for the webmasters of heavensgate.com) said in this article:
“A recent book on this subject, ‘Heaven’s Gate – America’s UFO Religion’ by Benjamin Zeller has been the best work we have seen so far.”

-Sawyer’s comment:
I don’t know why zellers book is the best work they have seen. He sent me an early draft looking for my input and I gave him a great deal and I’ve read parts of the new book and it’s too hard to wade through and is pretty much a carbon copy of Robert Balch’s hypothesis which is far afield and full of misinformation, insults and the like from a so called academic. Even calling Heavens Gate a “ufo religion” I suspect would make Ti and Do and crew gag considering they said that “religions are the number one killers of souls”.

2) It was reported that Jacques Vallee in Messengers of Deception said,
In November it was discovered that the two people who claimed to be the leaders of that outer-space organization were in fact quite ordinary humans: M.H. Applewhite, 43, born in Spur, Texas, a musician and opera singer, the son of Presbyterian minister; and Bonnie Nettles, age 48, a nurse who met him in Houston in the early ‘70s while he was recovering from a mental breakdown. They had first created meditation centres, then about 1973 they began recruiting for H.I.M.

-Sawyers comment:
There is no evidence I have heard of or seen that their first meeting was in a hospital Do was a patient in. Do had every reason to tell the truth about this and told us many times how He and Ti (Bonnie met), which Ti was present for and agreed was in the hospital where Ti worked as a premie baby nurse but on that time of meeting had agreed to substitute for another nurse in a different ward (that was not stated by Do or Ti). Do was with a friend and wrote in the document “88 Update, the UFO TWO and Their Crew”, available on heavensgate.com and on my blog at: https://sawyerhg.wordpress.com/2010/03/02/88-update-the-ufocloud-of-light-two-tifather-and-dojesus-and-their-crew-not-space-aliens-or-discarnate-spirits-or-luciferians/ that he was at the hospital visting a “male friend”. This is when Do first told us, the student body that he had been living a homosexual lifestyle before he awakened. He also told us at that time that he was unhappy with the fact that he wasn’t finding a partner who wanted a committed relationship. Ti told is before this time that Do’s task differed from Jesus task in that he needed to take a vehicle that would get into most all things the vehicles the students would take might get into so he could relate to them what it takes to overcome those human characteristics, such as sexuality. Do said that Ti started a conversation about astrology asking what sign Do was. Do had been interested in astrology so showed interest.

One could research whether or not the ward with the “sick friend” was a mental ward like perhaps due to someone who tried to commit suicide for instance or for someone who had a mental breakdown. I don’t know if that is how that story got started. I’m not saying Do never checked himself into a facility or if he ever had a mental breakdown in his past. It’s possible. I know he indicated he was an alchohol user but I don’t know to what degree. I know he and Ti were quite straight laced and said they did no recreational drugs. And I know he did mingle in Houston high society and was divorced. But Terrie Nettles (Ti’s vehicle’s daughter) didn’t seem to know of this hospital meeting so thought they first met at a voice lesson Do was giving that Ti brought one of her daughters to that may have been Terrie.

Note that Vallee didn’t seem to know that they never wanted followers or students. Do wrote in 88update that when they learned that about a dozen wanted to follow them it was an “unwelcomed surprise” as they thought they would just share their message and move on. Vallee might not know about those they turned away as was reported in Brad Steiger’s book, “UFO Missionaries Extraordinary” and in 1976 how they sent 19 of their followers away from the larger group and Ti then told us who remained, “you made the first cut” as they didn’t think the 19 were ready though a number of years later after this other groups reincorporated back into the world, one in particular had been looking for the group and just so happened to walk into a hospital where a student was working in Amarillo, Texas and recognized her. That was the student named Drrody – Durable + “ody”. Nrrody was working in the Amarillo hospital at that time. By the way I took a lot of time and answered all of Zellers questions for his book and he used next to nothing and nothing changed much of his opinions that sided 100% with Robert Balch whom I also met with and edited a chapter for his book while I was in the group and we had started the second period of public meetings after 17 years of no meetings.

There are many stories of how Ti and Do said and did things that student found challenging so because of chose to leave the group. Do even offerred $2000.00 to any student who wasn’t leaving because they were afraid of the challenge of getting re-started in the world. Do only wanted students who wanted to give their all towards overcoming all of their human characteristics and to serve the Next Level through he and Ti’s instructions.

Thus their recruitment efforts were very successful, except it wasn’t about gaining great numbers. They came to know they would only have a small group of students and it ended up being 24 at one point before the second public meetings but ended at 38+4 which being 42 is in line with Rev 11:2 where “months” is equally translated to “affirmations from that 3 1/2 years time of their Prophecy period a way to make two statements in one.

3) It was reported that Zeller explained:
“The basic theology of Heaven’s Gate was that life on earth was relatively unimportant compared to life in the heavens, which should be our ultimate goal. Put that way, that’s what most Christians believe, particularly evangelical protestants who are a major force in America”.

-Sawyers comment:
To the contrary, Life on Earth was very important to having Life in the heavens as the human evolutionary kingdom was created to be a stepping stone into the Evolutionary Level Above Human. Nor “should it be” the ultimate goal of every human, becaues the Next Level doesn’t give all humans the chance at the same time and in the same ways if at all to make application to membership in the Kingdom in the literal heavens (outer space). That’s why it was compared to a “garden” where there are certain plantings in certain areas at different times and nutured in different ways pertaining to how the plants are growing. So the Moses classroom then became the “plants” with “seeded deposits (souls)” the Next Level chose to work with. But the product is not the physical vehicles. The product is the Soul that becomes filled with degrees of Mind/Spirit that if brought to “spirit birth” as Jesus said would reward them with a New “made” Next Level body that is no longer mammalian and service on board spacecrafts as big as planets, seen or not to cultivate new “gardens” as the way they gain new members. They don’t need new members. It’s simply their joy to offer what they know they have that is so “Beyond Human”.

4) It was reported re: Rob Balch’s forward to Zeller’s book claiming they were disorganized in 1975 when Balch and Taylor infiltrated the group:
“One potential reason for the group’s disorganized state at that time was that Do ended up in prison. In August 1974, he was arrested for failing to return a rental car and jailed for six months. It was during his period that he began to shift his theological thinking towards extraterrestrial life.”

-Sawyers comment:
There is little truth to this. Yes he spent 6 months in prison that stemmed from his keeping a rental car too long. The rental car company dropped the charges as soon as they got the car back but the St. Louis prosecutor, Do reported in 88Update was trying to make points and knew Do was an easy target because of his wild story of being from outer space and Do gave him a strange Tibetan name Nor Bu Young had just given he and Ti as this was in 1974 over a year before Rob Balch infiltrated so how can the two be linked. Ti and Do began to awaken to both being from “outer space” while in Boerne, Texas for less than 6 weeks where they also then realized they, their Minds/souls had been sent to “bring updates to the bible” and “fulfill prophecy”.

5) It was reported that:
“Throughout 1975, Do and Ti began to gather followers. During this time they were using the “Bo” and “Peep” monikers and arranged at least two public events to wait for the arrival of UFOs. When a spaceship failed to land at a gathering in Waldport, Oregon, the group still gained 30 new followers.”

-Sawyers comment:
There were a total of two times we planned for a pickup event. The first was in 1980 when we were camped at “The Cave without a Name” tourist site in Boerne, Texas and yes there was no pickup and Ti told Do from that, that Do told us about after Ti left her vehicle in 1985 (since she scheduled it) that she felt like she had “egg on her face” but it didn’t change her direction and knowing who she was. And it didn’t phase their fully dedicated students either, as I was one it didn’t phase, but for those on the fence it was the reason at least one left the group thereafter. Her name was Jssody. The second event was in 1992 while camping on the BLM lands west of Phoenix that Do being without Ti’s physical presence felt he had instruction from Ti to instigate (though instructions were not that easy to know were instructions so in a sense it was  a trial and error situation. This was not at all the way the schedule to lay down their lives occurred. That took years of examination of every detail and every student that I was present for and was an Overseer so was privey to things others weren’t always privey to (though not much really, but just some insights perhaps of how Do’s mind worked, though still did not make me able to second guess him). Thus since Waldport happened in September of 1975 these are totally unrelated. The 30 new followers came as a result mostly of the 1994 public meetings and many of those ended up leaving as well.

6) It was reported that:
“They then settled on a nomadic lifestyle moving across the United States. In April 1976, Ti announced that the group would no longer hold public meetings and its membership dropped dramatically – from more than 100 to around two dozen.”

-Sawyers comment:
Ti did annouce on April 21, 1976 that the “harvest is closed” and had us just finish up the existing meeting schedule by mid June and there were “about 100” students at that time but it took the next 17 years for the numbers to drop to “around two dozen”. (Note the 24 Elders in the Book of Revelations).

7) It was reported that:
“In 1985, the mass suicide was still 12 years away, but death touched the group significantly. After two years suffering with cancer, Ti died. Do told his followers that she had gone to ‘the Next Level’ because she contained too much energy to remain on Earth, and had abandoned her Earthly vessel for the journey.”

-Sawyers comment:
Do simply said Ti “burnt out her vehicle” dealing with the negativity she was the biggest recipient of as she was the Older Member of Do, so like the grandfather to the student body and when students were having doubts those thoughts went to both she and Do and when members of the human families of students felt anxiety and condemnation of the students teachers the discarnates would attack her (and Do). Ti was depicted in Revelations Chapter 12 as the “woman” and this is shown by the Dragon (the Luciferian space alien souls, even Lucifer in particular as one of those souls) sending out a flood against her. She is saved from it by the “earth opening it’s mouth” to swallow the flood. That’s an expression of someone going into the grave even found in a Crosby Stills Nash and Young song. So her early exit was planned ahead.

8) It was reported that:
“Following the loss of his companion – the pair were not lovers – Do began to adjust and evolve the theology of what would come to be renamed Heaven’s Gate. He decided that Ti’s consciousness had been conveyed to a spaceship when it had left her body. Previously the group’s teachings had focused on actual physical ascension, but Ti’s passing had made that belief untenable.”

-Sawyers comment:
The Heaven’s Gate name came about after I left which was after September of 1994. Ti left in 1985. We had a number of names as we explored different public approaches, Do feeling there was to be another public offerring of the infomation that was more straight forward that Do was the return of the same Soul who had been incarnate in the vehicle named “jesus”. See Do’s article, “Undercover “Jesus” Surfaces Before Final Departure” written in 1995 and posted to 90 somthing usenet groups. (I say this was the 6th of 7 “thunders” (roars) listed in Revelations chapter 10.

That belief that they could all be taken with their physical bodies was never “untenable” though I admit Ti’s exit did reveal their exit would not necessarily be with their physical bodies. This is shown in the document I’ve already noted, “Undercover “Jesus”…” showing that in 1995 they still thought it possible they could be taken without “laying down their bodies” in the way they did by their own hands.

9) It was reported that:
“Do believed once the group had reached ‘Evolutionary Level Above Human – the Next Level’ they would be able to leave their physical ‘vessels’ and be transported to heaven – a literal planet – on a spaceship controlled by extraterrestrials. One of those beings was Jesus. In Do’s doctrine, Jesus was a gateway to heaven, but on his first visit to Earth found humanity to be unready for ascension.”

-Sawyers comment:
This is very convoluted to say the least. To put it simply, Do believed if they exited by leaving their human vehicles behind their Soul bodies which are invisible to humans that would not have died would be met by Next Level members who were invisible to humans and they would board an invisible space craft sent to receive them. Yes one could call that spacecraft “heaven” because at that point one is in the keeping of the Kingdom of Heaven, but where they would go from there was never spelled out while I was there nor in any of the information they left behind that I have found. However, Ti and Do did say they were from “headquarters” and that some might be assigned to work in headquarters and there was some implication that headquarters was locally inside the planet Pluto. Ti and Do instigated a movie script that they said was “science fiction based on the truth” in which Pluto as a huge spacecraft that housed a “earth lab” with a scaled replica of the earth through which Next Level crewmembers could observe and perhaps communicate with any part of earth or earthling.

Yes Members of the Next Level were “extraterrestrial” but didn’t look like the aliens we see mostly in hollywood movies – that look grotesque or like insects, etc. They have very delicate shapes and features that they designed humans to resemble in likeness though have a slightly larger head, small lips if they even have lips, depending on the type of vehicle designed for each members as members keep on graduating to new model vehicles or vehicles for differnet tasks.

Ti said Do was the same soul who started in the task of Adam, then Enoch, then Moses, then Elijah and then Jesus. But yes Jesus was the gateway 2000 years ago, both him as a person in that vehicle he took over and related to his student body through and by his teachings of the requirements of seperating from our human roots and human mammalian behaviors and ways, such as sexuality. But to date, Do then became the “currently present” Representative. If we don’t please Do and Ti then they are not going to want to have us on their crew on board a spacecraft doing tasks for them. Ti assigned Do the task of birthing the student body completly though she came to help get him started, thus He is this civilizations current and only GATE into Heaven which is 100% consistant with everything Jesus represented.

10) It was reported that Zeller said re: Hale Bopps reported “companion object”:
“…claims about a mysterious object, a ‘companion’, following the comet that seemed to move unnaturally and even influence the movements of the comet became the focus of the group. While these claims would later be debunked, and the members of Heaven’s Gate ultimately indicated that the nature of the mysterious object was in fact irrelevant, the interest in the companion and the comet among members of the fringe and conspiracy-orientated alternative media attracted the attention and interest of the group’s adherents.”

-Sawyers comment:
There is a great deal to say about what Zeller so easily just says were “debunked” that even scientists who are still engaged in trying to understand would not be so blatently challenging. For instance in one NASA forum on Hale Bopp, the concensus is that what we are calling Hale Bopp was actually two object in orbit around one another – spoken of as having a double nucleus that is not understood how is possible. Since that time there have been so many events in the heavens that have put current science on it’s ear, so to speak that to say with any certainty what is not possible is ignorance.

11) It was reported that:
“If it happened today, the mass suicide of Heaven’s Gate members who be the stuff of memes in the darkest corners of the internet. The details were precise – black uniforms with matching “Away Team” patches, new white Nikes, purple shrouds. Each member with rolls of quarters and five dollar bills in their pockets, and duffle bags beside them”.

-Sawyers comment:
It was “three quarters” not rolls and that added up to $5.75 which is what Mark Twain said was the cost to ride the tail of a comet to heaven.
I didn’t know this when I was first interviewed by Zeller and others before him, though I did update him I believe before his book went to print. I don’t recall whether he mentions the Mark Twain “coincidence”.

12) It was reported that:
Though they are the only ex-Heaven’s Gate members in control of the group’s legacy and archives, there are other former adherents.
One, Rio DiAngelo wrote a book about his experience. Another, Sawyer, has a frequently updated blog, and often appears in the comments of articles and YouTube videos about the group.

The response from the Heaven Gate’s website admins gives a hint at the underlying tension between them and other ex-members. When I asked them about Sawyer, they replied:

“ There is one other person who was in the group who writes a blog but the group did not give him any instructions when they left and he hasn’t been in the loop of what is currently going on with their information. Simply said, he is doing his own thing.

Zeller told me:

“ There’s a lot of discussion about whether people should add to and explain the group or just let it be over. There’s a lot of debate over who owns the copyrights.

-Sawyers response:
The webmasters who I refer to as M and S, are wrong about who received instructions when they left, though I know it requires looking at all Do and crew said to M & S AND in their general and specific teachings of how to align with them, in this case “after” their exit. In the letters that M & S received, which I have there was a statement that was talking about the money they left behind, or that came from the sale of certain items and how they hoped it would be split up between “anyone who wants to participate in this project” (of disseminating their information and giving people who want to know the ability to know more about them – in depth, which was the reason they left the 484 or so audio tapes behind. Here are two actual quotes from one of the 5 letters sent to M & S in their FedX packet:

-“We put into storage items that we would prefer the authorities not have access to. You can do with those items whatever feels right to you. The only exception to this is some exercise equipment which belongs to our landlord, Sam, and we suspect he will want at some point.”

Still talking about the content of the storage that included a truck they suggested be used to load up the contents of one of the storage rooms:

-“Pursers have included an additional document as part of this packet that further covers the disposition of our cars and this truck. So we ask that you refer to that document for details. It is out desire that any items of value that are retrievable by you be divided among those who feel inclined to disseminate our information.  Any of the funds you retrieve can be used towards that end and for the living expenses of those involving themselves in this project.”

The items of value that are retrievable is referring to the content of the storage room that included stacked up in the very front of the storage room the cases of about 484 audio tapes. To not consider them the most valuble items in storage is blatently ignoring what was important to Ti and Do and crew but that is a choice to recognize but there are a number of other things said in these letters to give that impression.

However, one might wonder, why Do and Crew went to such a meticulous effort to cover their bases with providing their information to multiple former classmembers, backup webmasters and providers (Rkkody and Romania and an Atlanta couple) and sent the Beyond Human master video tapes to Jhnody in Venezuala (not to M & S) and sent Rkkody master exit video’s and CNN exit videos and other master materials to Rio and Flxody/Ablody but didn’t treat the 484 audio tapes with that same kind of planning.

From a human perspective it doesn’t make any sense or looks like an oversight. They could have easily bundled them up to spread them out among these believers who had dropped out of the class for their own reasons. Actually I was still in the class when we began transcribing these audio tapes but that effort was put on a back burner by 1994. The non-human explanation that I believe to be the most likley reason(s) for the way Do and Crew handled those tapes, was that this was the instruction Do got from Ti (who was outside her vehicle by then). The way he received instructions was often by asking specific questions and then seeing what ideas he got after that. I witnessed a great deal of how this worked. I never heard Do say Ti visited him in a physical way after her exit of her vehicle. (though Rio reported in his book that when they were in the Tucson, AZ area (around 1996 I think it was), 6 members of the class had an experience one night (3 in a dream, one of which was Rio and 3 reported the same thing but not in a dream) where they were visited by what Rio described as “six year old, hairless, little boys. Glowing like white phosphorescence with a blue tint and wore one piece, form fitting outfits, like Olympic speed skaters.”

However, when idea’s came they were like if someone told you something your mother or father or someone close to you had said, you knowing them might have a sense of whether or not that was something they would have said. I know this because while in the class, Do told the student body they could talk directly to Ti. (Ti had instructed us while incarnate to direct our committment to Do, though while incarnate when we had questions we treated them as a team). And he said with that we could report to him if we feel we get a response. I did talk to Ti and asked her a question and heard in my head a subtle idea/voice with a specific answer. I don’t actually remember what I asked and what the response was, but I reported it to Do and Do said to me, “sounds like something Ti might say”. Recognizing their Mind, though we shouldn’t get overconfident in non-physical forms of communication, like in Dreams, for instance is part of bonding with them and is as much a bond, even moreso potentially as between any humans who grow to know others and how they think/feel about things.

So, sometimes it’s that simple but the ramifications are enormous as in this case, Do not spelling out exactly what was to be done with the tapes ended up setting up a huge test criteria for all who came after, by informing what their intention was and then allowing the recipients, in this case M & S to choose to abide by their intention and to what degree or not.

Therefore my point is that there is a huge amount of evidence that ANYONE WHO WANTED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROJECT OF DISSEMINATING THEIR INFORMATION WAS CONSIDERED TO BE EQUAL TO ANY OTHERS REGARDLESS OF WHO RECEIVED WHAT INSTRUCTIONS. We all dropped out because of our own weaknesses to overcome aspects of our humanness, but if we choose to still make application to be in Ti and Do’s service the opportunity is still available by our asking and showing by our actions.

In regard to the second part of M & S’s statement about me: “and he hasn’t been in the loop of what is currently going on with their information”.

What loop is that exactly? If they determine they are the sole guardians of the information, they are being deceitful as even in these few quotes I provided from the letters it’s clear they wanted ANYONE who desired to help with the project to receive help in funds, automobile etc. How does that mean one has to be in M & S’s loop on what’s going on with Ti and Do and Crews Information?

In the human way of looking at it all it makes perfect sense. To be in their loop would be to work with and for M & S in the ways they have organized that was given to them as a task to get started on but since have tried to take over all dissemination and even surpress dissemination by going after anyone who distributed information on their own as there is a great deal of evidence of. Remember, Do and Crew didn’t actually give them the masters of the Beyond Human video tapes and gave no instructions to have them copyrighted but they it seems convinced Jhnody to give them those masters that they have since copyrighted I believe. So they have been hard at trying to be the holders of all the information which by the way is the same way the Vatican Holy See in all it’s corruption did the same with the manuscripts of writings about Jesus and the Dead Sea scrolls, etc. limiting access to their inner circle and deciding which materials could be seen by the public.

M & S for years would not even provide myself and Crlody with the audio tapes. However, Rkkody did send me a cd with about half of the tapes he digitized and Carlan posted them on a sharing site and we both send them to anyone who wants them for free while M & S have finally put them up for sale on Heavensgate.com.

They are the webmasters and they got the instructions to make some choices but in Do’s mind like I’ve proven by the letter segments above, it’s up to each individual who is “in the loop” and has nothing at all to do with adhering to what M & S say and do. They are not Older Members from the Next Level with that authority. In the human world they have some authority for the time being.

But I do agree with M & S’s statement that sawyer is “doing his own thing”, at least from their perspective but what they don’t know is how much of “that own thing” is something Ti and Do approve of or even have tasked me to do, because if one believes in Ti and Do and who they were/are – the return of the Father and the one who was incarnate in the vehicle named, “Jesus”, with the hundreds of scriptural evidence of that, that I have ammassed, then their “project” is not at all done though it will quickly be done, but when it’s done we won’t be able to talk about it anymore in this way so there won’t be much question that it’s done. I can espound on that a great deal if anyone wants me to.

By the way, the gate is Do and Do did not close the gate. He said it would be open for a short time but remember to the Next Level 1000 years in human time is like 1 day so a short time is relative to what Ti and Do determine in the timing of when the gate is closed.

Q and A – Did Ti and Do (Heaven’s Gate founders) feel emotions?

May 27, 2016

Here are some questions I was asked on this blog, followed by my reply that has mainly to do with Ti and Do’s show of emotion:

Questions:

“Hello, I know you don’t know me and I’m a random stranger but If im not mistaken you were part of the heavens gate group for a long time and I have a few questions about Do(Marshall Applewhite) and the group. Some people believe that Marshall didn’t feel any emotions, and he didn’t care about his classroom or his students. During the time you with him, did he ever show any degree of emotion? And this may be personal but when Ti(Bonnie Nettles) from cancer, was Marshall devastated, did you see him cry? Or emotionally distraught? Second, I’ve studied and researched about the heavens gate group for a good while and I’ve come to notice that Marshall seemed to dislike the world, hated it. Why? Was it because people were cruel to one another and such? And lastly, during the time you were in the group, how were the other members like? From what I’ve heard they seemed pretty nice and good honest people looking for a meaning to life. Oh and one last question, Was Doh, controlling of you guys or was he laid back type of person? Thank you for your time”

Sawyer’s response:

Yes, we all showed emotion. However, we were to control our emotions – self-control, whether anger or happiness but it’s not like it was laid out in a measured way. For instance an angry outburst would have certainly been a slippage but there was no prescribed punishment except for acknowledging our slippage before the group of other students in a “slippage meeting” (that was a little embarrassing) and including a “remedy” to have better control in the future. If we watched something on television or went to a movie and something was funny we laughed but if our laughter was bursting at the seams, rolling on the floor that probably would have been brought up at a meeting as out of control. It certainly would not be wrong for someone not trying to overcome their humanness in Ti and Do’s program to roll on the floor. After all this was voluntary and not coerced and no one was lured or manipulated (though of course there are those who would say it was manipulation to think Ti and Do were from the Kingdom of Heaven in outer space, their souls that is) but for all practical vantage points day-to-day participation was completely voluntary which shows in the amount of people who said they believed but over the years drifted off or were coaxed to leave by Do or were instructed to leave by Do or were sent to a half way house type of arrangement to get better control or sent to be with their human families again that turned into a type of lure back into the world. However, they made no bones about leaving the classroom as being a failure to complete one’s “task” to get control over one’s vehicle to graduate the human kingdom. It just wasn’t drilled into us or used as leverage to guilt us into staying. We did have to measure up to stay.

Yes, I saw Do shed tears on a number of occasions. I also saw Ti shed tears on a couple of occasions. One of those occasions was related to Ti’s exit of her vehicle. Do certainly was distraught. He certainly depended on Ti and loved her, though it was never anything physical or human – He loved her Mind. He told us he gave Ti a hard time for the first year or so as it took being together day and night traveling around the country trying to figure out what their task was exactly – what were the updates to the bible they knew their Minds were sent to bring and what were the prophecies they were sent to fulfill. Ti never told Do she was his “Older Member” (heavenly Father). He came to know it because of how Ti thought and the choices she made that summed up the options more quickly and more accurately, where Do felt he needed to try things Ti knew would not pan out to their task needs.

Crying as in sobbing was considered to be giving into that form of sensuality. Even jumping up and down at that sight of a beautiful sunset would have been giving into that form of sensuality. All pleasure was not prohibited. It simply needed to be a “pleasure” They provided, such as a nice dessert or some type of sport exercise – we had a track to run on at one of our “crafts” in south Austin and had an indoor racquetball court in another in Paradise Valley and an indoor pool in texas and others with outdoor pools, though in each there were “procedures” on how to use them and how often and became lesson opportunities on how to enjoy them “in the way a member of the Next Level would do”.

I can’t speak to exactly how Do thought about the “world” before he was awakened by and with Ti, except that he, his vehicle (that was prepared for his incarnation (taking over for his Next Level task) dropped out of seminary because they were too restrictive of what to study and consider. At another time he said when he would go to the hollywood styled parties in Houston, as he was a popular lead role opera singer in the Houston opera and a teacher of music and voice at St. Thomas University, when they would serve shrimp cocktail, the first time he had it, he went to the bathroom and threw up but then forced himself to eat it because it was expected. Just a tiny example.

He was unhappy with relationships, in the last year before awakening was turning anti-sexual, though had been in relationship with men (I don’t know how many) but that he wanted a “committed relationship” he was not finding in his high society involvements.

I know the rumors that he was so distraught over his sexuality that he allegedly checked into a mental facility as well as the rumors Ti wanted a physical relationship with him and that he went off the deep end when Ti left which then became the consideration of “suicide” which there is considerable evidence is all mis/dis-information. Do set that record straight in his booklet entitled, “’88 update – The UFO Two and Crew”. Ti never made any advances to him and he said though he wondered at first if she was trying to pick him up, he said he had no physical attraction to Ti’s vehicle and “wouldn’t dirty his mouth on Ti’s mouth” – or anyone’s mouth for that matter.

Do did kiss his students on the forehead or cheek a time or two, one time publicly in a type of marriage ceremony where students went up to him one by one and he was weepy during. He kissed me in this way on a couple of times when he was meeting with the student body individually in private that included his touching my head/face and speaking affectionately with zero touching or kissing or hugging any more than that.

Of course critics would guess he did more than that with some but there is zero evidence of that and there have been many dropouts who were drilled by media over the years before their exit and since their exit of their incarnations.

It was Ti that told the class we needed to give Them our will. And it was Ti that instructed us to make our “committal” to Do – doing so in writing though Do knew he needed to accept that position of being the focus of every students total love as Jesus said was the “first commandment” – to love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, soul and strength – the reason Jesus students needed to “deny self” (give their will over to their Older Member’s will for them), “take up their cross” (give their lives up in service) and “follow me” – (literally leave one’s human attachments behind to be with Jesus and abide by all his teachings during and after his exit).

There was always plenty of laughter and lightheartedness and even a time or two of outright silliness while times also of knowing that we missed the mark, got off track, disappointed them, needed to work harder on our lessons. We were certainly prodded in that way. They were not permissive of human behavior. There was no gossip or chit chatting or “familiarity” with fellow students or with Ti and Do though over the years some of what would have been called chit chat relaxed some as the student body had matured so had a sense of where to draw the lines. No chummyness. though partners were to commit themselves to helping their partners with their overcoming.

We even once had a type of marriage ceremony between assigned “partners” where we each vowed to the other our committment to help them in their overcoming of humanness and service to Ti and Do. My partner was Chkody (check-ody) a soul who had a female vehicle that actually challenged me because of my vehicle having an attraction to her vehicle (though I never permitted any kind of fantasy of being with her). However, it was difficult for me to deal with and I did tend to treat her differently because of the vehicles attraction, which was part of what I needed to overcome.

Neither Ti and Do were “laid back”, though there were certainly many times when we enjoyed a meal together or went on an outing together or watched television together. Part of our lessons were to maintain a “pleasant countenance” and not give into tiredness, maintain good posture, cleanliness, soft spoken, whispering or silent times, gentle actions whether walking or in the closing of doors – like one would imagine in a monastery without getting into a spiritual or religious dogma or holiness self grandizing, or artificial “worshipping” vibration. (That’s really very controlled as is in the many does and don’ts in society, business and politics.

We had music at times and did choral singing of christmas carols several years in a row before Ti exited. By the way, Do said Ti “burnt out her vehicle” dealing with the negativity from the many “influences” (discarnates) who attacked her especially since she was the Oldest Member incarnate. Ti and Do both took on the students influences and at times ran them off so we could have a better chance of seeing clearly.

Do did indicate he used alcohol while in the world. One time during the christmas before Ti exited we had a christmas tree and a party and we each had about a half ounce of wine in a shot glass. Do said afterwards that he didn’t like the way it affected his consciousness so would not be doing that again.

That year we were each given some money and went shopping to buy gifts for the “craft” not for one another, though some students organized the purchase of some gifts for Ti and Do. Even though it wasn’t procedure to do that, it was “taking a chance on a positive” and Ti and Do were never without consideration of the moment and the good intentions of the students as opposed to sticking to the letter of the “law”, though that could certainly have a breaking point. For instance any hint of sexuality would have been against their lessons to be permissive of.

When we were sent to visit with vehicle’s families the first time while Ti was still in her vehicle and we returned, it was approved that each student could give the returning student a hug but other than that time we generally did not hug one another and there was never any kissing between students – though on a couple of occasions a couple of students did slip and it was surfaced had been feeling one another up in a closet and in one case in 1976 in Wyoming campground two students had sex.

On one occasion when Ross Perot was running for president, Ti and Do indicated his being a businessman might be good for the country. They considered having us vote that year but we didn’t and never did in the 19 years I was with them.

It was not a solemn environment but nor was it happy-go-lucky. I would not call Ti and Do controlling at all but it was a fact that if we didn’t want to follow their teachings their classroom wasn’t the place for us. Do even offered students $2000 at one point to leave if the money would help them make that choice as he didn’t want people staying in the classroom because of how easy life became – having that infrastructure to depend upon. Ti used to call the world outside the classroom, “the real world” which always puzzled me but I grew to understand that the classroom consisted of a very “controlled environment” to where one didn’t have to worry about bills and children and social engagements and business and if one lost their job there were others with jobs to depend upon.

The control was in the design of procedures to follow which arose as needed but it was self-control yet partners were committed to pointing out to their partners when they were breaking procedure and there were other overseers with the task of providing correction to fellow students most of which was done in private and when Ti and Do corrected specific students most of the time that too was done in private or addressed in general in a meeting though there were a few exceptions.

“Third Eye” way Luciferian Space Aliens Steal Souls

March 12, 2016

Below I have listed a youtube channel post that is entitled: “Symptoms and Side Effects of Opening You Third Eye Chakra”. The introductury text follows and the link is at the end. My comment to one of the commenters follows this introduction. Note the person who made this video says they have an ebook with “17 steps” in the title, another way the Luciferian space aliens sew seeds of confusion to try to commondeer the Next Level’s efforts. This is yet another area in which those standing for Ti and Do can get familiar to provide help to some who are being trapped by the Luciferian space aliens and their supporters (whether they know it or not):

YOUTUBE VIDEO INTRODUCTION:

Symptoms and Side Effects of Opening You Third Eye Chakra – What will happen After Third Eye Awakening and what are the signs of an open third eye? The third eye chakra, or Ajna Chakra in Sanskrit, is our connection to our spirituality and is located between your eyebrows. Third eye meditation can helps you open and activate this chakra. But before you start your third eye awakening, you should take some time to learn more about this chakra and what you can expect from opening it and what you need to be aware of. So here are a couple of things many people have reported experiencing after opening their third eye, and the signs you can look for is you have already opened your third eye, both good and bad.

What Will Happen After Opening The Third Eye Chakra
Many people have experienced hearing a loud popping sound from inside the middle of their head when they first open their third eye chakra. This is believed to be the opening and activation of the pineal gland. The pineal gland is a small hormone-producing gland that is connected to the third eye and is what regulates our sleep rhythm and releases melatonin.
A very normal side effect of opening the third eye is an intense pressure on your forehead and you may feel a consistent tingling or vibrating sensation on the third eye that can stay for days after opening the third eye chakra. This is only a sign that the meditation has worked and your third eye is awakening. This will go away within days, so don’t worry.
People often times experience symptoms directed to their vision and they begin seeing unexplainable things not from this world. This is what you need to be prepared for, as it will be a frightening experience if you are not properly informed and did not prepare yourself for this. One of the things you may see are paranormal entities or what we call spirits of those who have passed. You can develop clairvoyance and the ability to communicate with spirits. Some people see other beings not of this world, and could be creatures of other dimensions or what religion might refer to as demons. No matter what type of entity you may encounter, it will be a very overwhelming experience, and for some people it starts to feel like insanity and something they have a difficult time shutting out.
This is why opening the third eye is something you should prepare yourself for, so that you know what you are dealing with and what you can expect. This means that you have to be patient and take some time learning about the third eye before you actually try opening it… it will greatly benefit you in the end.
So to some of the more positive sides of opening the third eye is your increased ability to develop your psychic abilities and many people have reported experiencing astral travel, seeing auras and a greatly improved intuition.
Other symptoms of an open third eye chakra is more subtle. You will for instance improve your awareness and notice more things around you that were only background elements to you before. You step out of the state of autopilot, where you just go through your day not noticing or paying attention to anything.
Some describe a state of objectiveness where you are not blinded by your eyesight and the illusions and lies your eyes fall a victim to, but you will be able to see things more clearly and sense the truth and reality that is difficult to put into words. This could be a sign that your intuition or sixth sense is improving.
A lot of people say they see lights or colors while meditating, and this is just a sign that your chakra is activating. At some point they may even start to see pictures in their minds eye when they meditate, which in the beginning are very unclear and like a blurry image. Over time with third eye practice, the images will become clearer. Some will see an eye with the indigo or purple color of the third eye chakra in their minds eye.

Get my eBook “The Third Eye – A 17 Step Activation Plan”
video link: https://youtu.be/K1pxp6sE15g

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COMMENTS BY A YOUTUBER AND MY COMMENT TO THE COMMENTER:

America Anuchiracheeva asks:

If there is any technical advise to avoid any dark entities scary stuff? thanyou for your advise.

My comment to America Anuchiracheeva as 3spm:

There are no entities that are not scary who will be attracted to you by continuing playing with these tricks. The lower forces of the planet love to have “vehicles”  they can work through. These include space aliens that are actually no longer “space” aliens because they can no longer travel very far from earth – the reason they are trying to get humans to do so, because they wish to escape the earth where they have been in prison for thousands of earth years.

Several years ago, I believe I was given a sample of a third eye opening, I suspect to show me what people were doing and seeing and experiencing as a result. After a few weeks of seeing things it was removed. This third eye opening is a fake enlightenment. What someone is doing with this meditation might be compared to adding a device to your “brain” (computer) that provides a more powerful interface with whatever spirits and actually space aliens that want to use your vehicle. Sure they can assist you in many human things but true enlightenment means you have risen above the human evolutionary kingdom. I don’t think there are any truely enlightened being on the planet right now. I say that because I was the student of TWO enlightened beings, who incarnated into the body of a human woman and a human man in the 1970’s who took the names Ti and Do. They proved to me over 19 years with them that they were from the One True/Real Many Membered Physical Evolutionary Level Above Human – the organization of Beings who have evolved by choice above the human evolutionary condition. They don’t circulate on earth any more than a human would be comfortable living in a wild dog pack or worse yet a snake pit. We can’t actually rise to their state of enlightening without them because what that means is actually filling a “deposit container/pocket” (soul) they install in certain human vehicles, with Their Mind, (spirit) which is living information that if adhered to can grow within that deposit and eventually can be harvested from our vehicle, usually when it dies IF we qualify as they don’t need us and they don’t want just anyone to fill space on their spacecrafts where they live and work, so they make it very hard to join their ranks, but not so hard that anyone who keeps seeking their help can’t accomplish it.

Each person who wants to verify that I am telling the truth about this can project their asking beyond the nearest stars to Them – especially in the names Ti and Do. It’s your choice but to chose these other entites that are space aliens and/or discarnate human spirits is a dead end for your soul. They love having souls as they don’t know how to make a soul and nor can they kill a soul. Only the Next Level who designed everyting and all the life forms can make or destroy a soul. This is one of a number of ways the Luciferian space alien (fallen angels) capture souls that have been planted into humans becaue of the lure of power one gets to see things others don’t see and to have an advantage in the receipt of future help with the intention to capture others. They also want the DNA from those they capture as then they can propogate hybrids they and your soul can prepare for when each physical body being used now dies. They can have you believe when you die you will then be “free” and have that be a welcomed condition theoretically – not encumbered by physicality but it’s an illusion of freedom as once discarnate one can not FEEL sensations in the same way so there is a “wanting” that can not be satiated but they get some satisfaction by influencing living humans to be their tools. This is the norm for the entire human society. All our vehicles are time shared computer systems. The only part that is “us” is the “decider” of what to think, and do.

Now that it’s nearing recycle time it’s especially crutial to those that can still make some sense out of what I’m saying as there is yet another even higher level we need our physical body to make application for and has to be done entirely by choice that involves many steps to progress to and they must be the steps received from an Older Member of the Evolutionary Kingdom Level Above Human that they provided when they came incarnate as they have done a number of times since the start of their latest “garden” like experiment designed to grow souls into new members of their Kingdom. All these things taught by the Luciferian space aliens is permitted by the Next Level Older Members because it serves to provide us with a total choice of what to become in their “garden”. We can become as rotten as the Luciferians chose to become, that they don’t think they are and even have many disbelieving they even exist.

The Next Level will recycle those and it’s very soon without a middle aged person’s human lifetime that that will be completed which will include dissolving the “spirit world” and leveling and spading the entire planet, what some are mis-thinking will “heaven” on earth while it will be a time period to where the planet will have a rest and restoration of the harm the Luciferian space aliens and human sheeple have caused on it, mostly in destroying having any chance to choose to recognized these Creator Beings. Ti is the Chief Administrator of this garden. She, though is not a gendered being, took a female vehicle with Do and fulfilled the Revelations Two Witnesses prophecy and all the prophecies, though some have yet to play out. She was the One who planted a deposit soul into the vehicle they made (not by human mammalian reproduction) to start the recent experiment.

Do was serving by taking over the Adam vehicle and he fell to the influence of the Luciferian space aliens who were allowed to be present to set up the testing criteria. That same soul last known as Do (and to date) recovered over 7 generations later and took over the vehicle named Enoch who then came incarnate as Moses and then Jesus and possibly guatama Buddha and who knows who in previous civilizations on Earth and/or on another planet. This is NOT christian talk nor spiritual. It’s the real deal – the only real deal on earth and in the heavens – literally outer space. There is a great deal to say about all this but it’s up to you to seek it out. I’m simply providing an avenue but I am not a “teacher” from the Next Level. I am a student of Ti and Do, so I have zero desire for followers of me or to start an organization or new religion as religions at this time are all killers of souls because of how they draw people to become satisfied with the human condition and even satisfied to die thinking they get some “heaven” without the huge investment needed of showing the Next Level we want to serve Them on Their Crews on board spacecrafts large and small all over the universe.

You can contact Ti and Do by projecting your asking beyond the stars to them or if that’s too strange to use their names to the highest Living Being you can imagine exists and if you are sincere they will show you that I speak Their truth. They never lure or manipulate anyone though the have a very certain “rule” for their “”God” Astronaut Training Program” which they first called a “Human Individual Metamorphosis”.

Conclusion:

This person asking if there is a way to avoid the dark forces sounds to me like a ripe soul in that vehicle where many are overrippened and are already sold themselves to the Luciferians. As usual it’s not our job to save souls as religionists often do. It’s our job if we choose to take it to show the choices by introducing people to Ti and Do and their Next Level Above Human so they can judge for themselves who to give their allegience to.

I’m not saying everything I said in this post is exactly as Ti and Do would have said it. In fact I am confident I didn’t. I would welcome anyone’s help to improve my post and make it their own or start from scrach to make their own using quotes from Ti and Do and Crew and references to documents they left behind. If you leave those quotes in comments on this blog post I’ll include them to make this post better.

“Global Warming” Caused by Humans is Propoganda

March 10, 2016

I say, “Global Warming” Caused by Humans is Propoganda. Here’s why:

On friday night I was responding to a facebook friend in a comment to his article showing Barak Obama talking about what he said was the commonality between Trump and the other presidential contenders for the nomination – referring to their all being anti-immigration, anti-muslim and finally in that talk saying they all lack the common sense about the proven reality of “climate change”, which to me on this last issue (but on all of them) is complete doublespeak, the term purported at first in the book “1984” that seems to be an increasing norm to use by many human kingdom organizations ,both on the left and right.

The list is very long with the facts that show how polices have not changed under Barack Obama and if anything the policy he has taken to center stage along with Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton and others has been, “climate change” – again noting how they put out propoganda to talk about using that phrase succintley, because, of course there is climate change, as there has been for every day of everyone’s life throughout the world for as long as we have records. So I am a literalist in saying that but not being literal is often how mis/dis-information works.

The greatest misinformation proponents are those that say something they can see misunderstood and/or watch be slanted in any way the hearer wants to for whatever they want to believe or whatever agenda they wish to support. Ti and Do and crew said the Luciferian space aliens are masters of this and some even believe their own misinformation and then transmit that to human leaders they know have significant influence on humans to transmit to us. Because of how saturated the human kingdom has become with the Luciferian misinformation that even promotes their not existing, we would hardly stand a chance to see what is or isn’t misinformation, except in how Ti and Do and Crew came public to reveal by telling the truth.

A little background on what’s been going on to push ahead the Luciferian agenda unbeknown to most humans:

No where was this misinformation propoganda more pronounced and directly in front of the public than in what I believe happened in the coup d’etat in the 2000 presidential election when candidate Al Gore threw in the towel when he said on national television, that I watched, “every vote would be counted” referring to the many Florida voting irregularities. At that point the Florida supreme court actually ordered a complete recount but within hours the U.S. Supreme court ruled to override the Florida Supreme court order which was illegal as states are soverign in their policies regarding elections. But this was a coup and the media was integral to it’s success so we were all tricked into having G.W. Bush as president as it has been shown afterwards that if a recount had been done Gore would have won Florida and become president.

Gore and his party could have easily insisted on a court battle with the U.S. Supreme Court, but no chance of that as I’m certain he was instructed to cave to the “law” as they stated, so the BEAST-like humans who wear the uniforms and suits and white robes and the like and run the country and increasingly the world could play out the agenda they outlined in their think tank formed in 1997 called, “Progress for a New American Century” though their document, “Rebuilding America’s Defenses” that called for a New “Pearl Harbor” event to motivate the people to increase military spending and activity to fight a “two front war” which they got with Afganistan and Iraq soon thereafter.

Ti and Do had said a number of times that the Next Level was holding back the forces that would descend on the U.S. after their exit to give Their  classroom the freedom to operate for as long as was needed to complete their lesson plan of “conquering/overcoming the human kingdom” enough to exit and move to each students next station in Next Level membership. This is directly shown by:

Rev 6:1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
Rev 6:2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

The Lamb task was fulfilled by Do in his new human vehicle he took that was a fulfillment of prophecy in itself, describing him as:

Rev 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
Rev 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
Rev 1:15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

The Candlesticks were the way the 7 groups of student souls were described. Son of Man was a term used for a number of Members of the Next Level who were incarnate, mostly applied to Adam, Ezekiel and Daniel and how Jesus mostly referred to himself and said would be returning with a new name because he would take a new human vehicle so is only “like” the ones before. His vehicle is the “garment” and upon awakening was completly covered – ceased sexuality and restrained (girt) any human seed bearing, procreative, reproductive programming (paps). It puzzled me for a while, why he was compared to the function of a woman but there is other supporting evidence of this in Rev 12 referring to his Father’s “footstool” as the “moon” – the mother that the Father was also depicted as by taking a “woman” – “generator” of life, vehicle. But one can even see that as an indication that he had the female side in his vehicle that he was also restraining, because before awakening he was attracted more to vehicles of his same gender – he was in a male vehicle that was expressing itself effeminately, said as “gay” or “homosexual” which is also more passionately enflamed and even “fire” to engage because to continue in those sexual passions meant to remain human and thus never evolve beyond to escape the recycling.

Do’s vehicle had whiteish hair when he took the stage in 1975 but even moreso in his second public interfacing in the Beyond Human Tapes and his head was “white” skinned. His vehicle was very passionate – said to have a great deal of charism as a stage presence serving as the lead in many performances in the Houston Opera – fire representing that passion. Feet is a way of describing his taking a “stand” in his human vehicle that was “a refined metal” in it’s strength and brilliance and his “voice” – disclosure is related to the Lions roar (waves of water) but as is always contined in prophecy even extends to his literal affection for music, producing sound from his vocal instrument. And he even chose a vehicle from the strain with the name, “applewhite” which is like saying, he had taken his failure as Adam and converted it into the purity of white light.

Also all these descriptions was directly shown by Ezekiel when he was approached by the “4 Living Creatures” who had one in between sitting on the
Throne and described in the same kinds of ways. (See Ezekiel chapters 1 and 2).

That’s just some of the evidence of how prophecy was fulfilled by Do in taking over the vehicle named Marshall Herff Applewhite. By the way, “marshall” is a rule enforcer and Herff seems to come from “sheriff” (but I’m not sure about that for Herff).

This is one of the many tasks Next Level members do that they even have fun with – setting up all these prophecies with each arrival of an incarnate member and then seeing to it that the prophecies are fulfilled when they are most needed – which is now to give a chance for all who are still open to seeing them fulfilled to accept the interpretations or not – so they are actually judging themselves.

So Do and graduate Crew fulfilled the Rev 6:1-2 “white horse” prophecy, where “bow” refers to his “litter” who he had “covenant” (rainbow) with to  conquer their humanness through Do’s “midwifing” that was the “spirit birth” Jesus said would occur upon his return with his “disciples” that required of them to be “born of water” (flesh birth) to complete – the metamorphosis of the Soul deposit’s growth inside the selected human vehicle by making their eye “single” with their Older Member’s will/instructions and example of doing the same which is the “christing” process.

Their exit in 1997 ushered in the next stage of allowing the Luciferian space aliens to wield their influence via their “radio wave like” transmissions to selected humans, described also as “horses” because the vehicles become those they “sit on” just as the Next Level does with human vehicles, except with the Next Level the vehicle itself needs to agree to every step. With the Luciferians the vehicle doesn’t even know how it’s being manuvered.

Thus this prophecy fulfillment of the “red/ruddy horse” is allowed to play out where it was held back before then, which is shown as this horse being “given a great sword” which means the Next Level was permitting the humans to do what they wanted with their military might:

Rev 6:3 And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.
Rev 6:4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.

So the Democratic party seemed to cave by siding with the Supreme court decision and let the Neocons – the “new conservatives” whose plan for a “New American Century” was in the works by none other than Rumsfeld, Cheney, Wolfowitz and others who had been deeply involved in the Reagen administration, to let their Christian appearing “skull and bones” frontman take the presidency at the turn of the millenium which was also a type of continuation of the Bush/Clinton axis of power. Some researchers show they were both genetically linked to English and Spanish kings and queens and to Charlemagne, the Frankish (Germanic) emperor brought into power by pope Leo III whose authority was on the skids, to form what was to become the loose knit Holy Roman Empire that eventually gave rise to the Protestant Reformation, a further bastardization of what Jesus actually stood for while appearing to be returning to what he stood for by negating what had become Constantine’s Christiandom in the Catholic Church.

It can also be shown that Bush’s early ancestors seemed to be related back to the Kingdom of Israel. After Kingdom David’s succeeding son, Soloman  died there was a division when the Kingdom of Judah and soon thereafter the Kingdom of Benjamin moved north to Jerusalem and vicinity. However shortly thereafter that split they were attacked by the Syrians and many were scattered further north into Russia, east into India and west into Europe. Many of those in the two tribes migrated to the area around the Caspian sea and well into Russia and Siberia, the primary areas spoken of in the prophecy of Ezekiel as Magog which seems to be where a final battle is fought before Lucifer in particular is recycled, which seems to be scheduled for about a 1000 years after the judgement and recycling of the BEASTS (The U.S. and the E.U (little beast/horn of Daniel 7) and their land areas and judgement of those who most embody the False Prophets, the Christian and related Spiritual leaders/teachers and their supporters, those who side with them, who accept their “marks” and/or work for (worship) their “Image”  (illusionary “gods”) – false idols – the Universal Mind and Cosmic Consciousness proponents that are reported by contactees and channelers (Rael, Alex Collier, David Icke, Billy Meier, etc.) kin to the Luciferian Space Aliens ways of thinking that are also kin to overall Buddhist thought who like the Christians have their “christ” facsimili equivilent, referred to as the Maitreya, most popularily advanced by Benjimen Creme and others in the New Age movement). During that 1000 years Lucifer and his associates are once again somehow locked underground probably because they, like many humans will be hiding from the Next Level underground by then and the Next Level will somehow seal them there with the hybridized vehicles they propogated/engineered while they were allowed to surface in the U.S. since the 1940’s.

This link of the Bush strain to the Israelites then qualifys Bush as a “red” man, where the Adamic race begun by Adam’s failure resulted in propogation of what became the Israelites. The Hebrew adom means “ruddy”, or “blood (and man) faced” and one can play that out in the lineage of the English that becames the “Red Coats” in the Revolutionary war in the Americas and then to the Red republicans.

So the New World Order we have heard so much about was then emerging further to the fore, led by the U.S. and E.U., having had it’s start in 1945 with the formation of the United Nations headquartered in the new “great city of Babylon” – New York City, which is actually with Washington D.C. – the District of Columbia (where Lady Columbia was the forerunner for Lady Liberty) and is described to a tee in Rev 17 and 18 as the “seat of the BEAST” and how NYC was actually the first capital of the U.S. when it was called, New Amsterdam, which is most interesting in how the E.U. also has a juxtaposed relationship with it’s “seat of the (little) Beast as the E.U. in Switzerland’s Geneva, the location of the second U.N. Headquarters with the Scandanavian countries and especially Norway with it’s capital in Oslo showing history with the Eurpopean based “space aliens” that Hitler seemed to have begun relationships with who seemed to have an underground facility under Antartica, reported by the Russians that Hitler created a base in an underground lake they could enter via their Uboats.

NYC being the New “great city of Babylon” in prophecy is moreorless run by the descendents of those migrating Israeli tribes. Many of those who fled Germany having arrived in Germany in great numbers before World War I often having fled from their failed coup attempt to topple the Russian Czar Stalin often mixed with the non-Jews and all points west but who Hitler was even more permissive of leaving Germany because of so ended up as the last major migration of Jews from western Europe – all arriving in the New York harbor greeted by Lady Liberty (Columbia), the personification of the Woman who rides the U.S. BEAST that it would appear by several prophecies may further manifest with Hillary Clinton as the next president of the U.S. and New World Order that Barak Obama has done a great deal to foster and that Bernie Sanders can be shown to play significant roles in as a fulfillment of the Pale/Green horse for the opening of the 4th Seal that turns into the One World Government – despite having the continued appearance of individual country soverignty.

Perhaps the biggest descriptive term for this New World Order is “green” most propogandised as the need to save the planet and humanity from Global Warming which began in earnest with Democratic presidential opponent to G.W. Bush in 2000, Al Gore’s documentary, “An Invonvenient Truth” he made in 2006 that has turned into quite the “convenient” cover for the truth. How quickly it caught on winning an award in the Sundance film festival and earning some 25 million in the box offices around the U.S. and given private screenings in the British parliment to gain their support.

Regardless of whether they believe their own “science” or not, it’s a boon for whatever they want to put into motion to make money from and foster  new alliances from, while appearing to be saving mankind from itself. No need for messy talk of aliens taking over the world or of a God destroying the world with heat and yet a way to blame the many evidences of progress of the fulfillments of prophecy in earth changes and human responses on our fossil fuel usage – drought, cancer from ozone depletion, earthquakes from drilling or fracing, bigger storms because of fresh water from the melting glaciers mixing with warmer salty water, food shortages, water shortages – all reasons for disease outbreaks, etc. Meanwhile the economy is gutted, infastructures are crumbling, surfacing dirty deeds by govn’t officials to redirect monies or save their own salaries, increased technogies in space to monitor the global warming and of course the need for a bigger security state and military might and survailence state to thwart the reactions to all the mistrust of gov’t and outright rebellion.

In Gore’s ending message in the movie it makes the case that each person who is responsible for the global warming catastrophe can be a part of the solution by recycling their glass and metal and paper, buying hybrid cars and changing the way they heat their homes, etc. all a boon for corporations and providing more openings for investment into businesses that can steer away from fossil fuel dependance. It is even humanitarian because if the planet is about to experience cataclysm those humans who don’t depend on fossil fuels will stand the best chance of surviving while the rich fortify their underground city facilities all over the nation, near to all the major cities or a short airflight to where they can generate power by the solar electric generating facilities, rather than try to store billions of gallons of oil and ways to refine it. So it works for all involved and even shows an effort to have less pollution while also giving a boost to nuclear energy generation.

In the movie Gore says it’s not a political issue but a moral one, describing, “the possibility of the collapse of a major ice sheet in Greenland or in West Antarctica, either of which could raise global sea levels by approximately 20 feet, flooding coastal areas and producing 100 million refugees. Melt water from Greenland, because of its lower salinity, could then halt the currents that keep northern Europe warm and quickly trigger dramatic local cooling there”.

Sounds like a doomsday prediction that he doesn’t need to assign to God’s wrath, employing fear and guilt and even a way to think we can do something about it, almost like the “indulgences” the Catholics began selling to pretend paid for one’s sins. People could hop on the “save the earth” bandwagon and claim that anyone who doesn’t see as they see are in “climate denial” or are ignorant conservatives who probably believe in god.  All of a sudden I recall seeing ads by people like Hannah Montana, the Disney star creation talking about “saving the planet”. It’s really a new religion and the Luciferians are delighted because it distracts from their many agenda’s the govn’t is in bed with, whether they know it or not.

So as I was responding to this post of Obama’s talk that included his “climate change” preaching and looking down his nose on anyone who questions his/their “science”, I was asking Ti and Do for help to have something to refer to, to help show some that it’s not a given that human activity heads the primary responsability. Note I am saying “primary responsability” as of course one can see that burning all fossil fuels delivers certain gases into the atmosphere. For years I figured the Sun was the biggest factor to consider as primarily responsible for “climate warming” of late but I had ideas noting the facts that there have been ice ages and warming times said to be throughout the earth’s history when there is no evidence of a global wide scale of industrialization at those times. (However, I knew there were past civilizations on earth as Ti and Do indicated there were that I also saw evidence of and thought made sense.)

So I saw this volcano eruption story and it felt like a response from Ti and Do and Crew, though I know I could be wrong. Here is the story:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/ecuador-volcano-sends-up-towering-cloud-of-ash/ar-BBqpviq?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp

But when I went to the comment section of the article I saw two comments that spoke about the many volcano’s currently in stages of eruption and it occurred to me a question as to why when a volcano puts out tons of CO2 – Carbon di-oxide and H2O (water vapour) (and SO2 – Sulfur dioxide and other gases) and ash particulate it causes GLOBAL COOLING but when human activity in the burning of fossil fuels puts out CO2 it is said to do the opposite and promote global warming.

The global cooling from volcanic eruptions has been frequently documented even before thermometers and satelitte data and ocean temperture monitors but is explained by some scientists is supposed to be from the carbon in the atmosphere that doesn’t let the sunlight in to do it’s warming – common sense right. You stand in the shade you are cooler. Yet the human developed CO2 and particulate is said to let the suns rays through and even trap them close to the surface creating the warming trends and other changes. Are the volcano’s CO2 particles less reflective than what comes from the oil we burn. Anyone that’s lived near or in a big city like Los Angeles, New York or Phoenix knows what smog looks like. Why is that particulate reflective while volcanic fog isn’t?

I was in L.A. in 1971 staying with friends when helicopters would come overhead with a loudspeaker and tell people to go inside because the smog level was dangerous for their health. I was in Phoenix to often see some of the worst smog of anywhere and it’s common in NYC as well and probably  most cities, but it’s limited to the area around where it’s most produced and it does disipate and is blown away and doesn’t block out that much sunlight but I suppose it can get worse. But if it’s not happening over the oceans and not happening in the mountains and not happening over big swarths of land where there are no cities, what keeps the heat from escaping to the upper atmosphere and/or out into space except I guess in the area the smog is thickest. But heat doesn’t work that way. As anybody that has worked with insulating houses. The cooler air sinks which creates a current that draws the warmer lighter air. If you have one opening in your house in the winter it will create a draft that will draw the heat out of the entire house. If the earth was like a house why wouldn’t the same thing occur where the hot air is drawn away from where it’s humanly created. I know, I’m not a scientest which is why I don’t see it but that’s not at all my only questioning of what we are told. Of course I tend to question many things I’m told and always have.

When my mother had my vehicle’s baby sister I was 5 years old and I asked where babies came from. My parents didn’t know how to answer that. They were afraid to say, “out of the mothers vagina” and could give more info if the kid wanted it. I guess that was considered to be immoral to talk about for many then. Anyway when they had no answer, I shrugged my shoulders and put up my hands and said, “well things don’t just happen!”.

But yes I am influenced by my beliefs in Ti and Do, though I can’t recall their talking about global warming or the prophecies of calamity from increased heat. But the timing of my coming upon the eruption story in Ecuador seemed like another one of those coincidences of a response to my question so I began to dig more into the history of climate changes, not because I need that evidence but for those that might need a little help or impetus to think outside this human caused global warming box and/or to talk it better to others to give them a chance to do the same as to go along with anything the gov’t tells me is frankly suspect.

The evidence of climate change can be seen as a part of several historic warming and cooling patterns that are not from millions of years ago that don’t require NASA or geologists to take core samples of ice caps to document. After all it was after the event known as the “Medieval Warm Period” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Warm_Period) some now call the “Medieval Climate Optimum”, a suspicious way of not saying it was a “warm period”, that came a period from about 1300 to 1850 that’s referred to as the “little ice age”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age.

That period seems to have ended in the beginning of the 1800’s that evidenced at least 4 volcanic eruptions in Indonesia, Japan the Phillippines and Caribbean, the biggest of which was after these that occurred from April 5-15th of 1815 on Mount Tambora in Indonesia that brought about a global-wide “year without a summer” in the spring and summer and fall of 1816 that is well documented in diaries to the bringing about of record cold to Southeast asia, China, India, Europe and North America among the most documented. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Without_a_Summer . Some of the reports were of a “persistant fog”, called the “dry fog” because rain didn’t wash it away and wind didn’t blow it away yet it reddened and dimmed the sunlight. The picture of a location covered in black smoke from a volcano wasn’t what was evidenced in New England. On June 6th there was snow in Albany, NY and in Maine. Every day in May was below freezing in upstate NY. July 7th some said everything stopped growing. August 23rd saw frost in the Massechusetts Berkshire hills. Cape May, NJ had front 5 nights in a row in late June. July and August showed lake and river ice in Northwest Pennsylvania. Frost in Virginia on August 20 and 21st. Tempertures went from 95 degrees to near freezing in hours. East Winds prevailed for 3 months. The sun was obscured by sky overcast and clouds.

There was famine in Great Britian due to crop failures of wheat, oats, potatoe. In Germany there were riots and arson and looting and in many European cities. Cholera broke out in India. Cold in China killed trees, rice crops and water buffalo.

A recent report from the Berkley Earth Surface Temperture group said the temperture dropped 1 degree celsious. And during that time occurred the “Dalton Minimum” solar cycle 6 they said caused the temperture drop. That is a report of a sun spot minimum that took place from Dec 1810 – May 1823. May of 1816 was the lowest sunspot number listed as .1

It’s interesting that people can think the lack of sunspots can produce cooling affects but often don’t want to consider that more sunspots could produce warming affects as I have been saying was probably the biggest cause of global warming – not rocket science to observe as we know that when sun spots are very active and produce CME’s – coronal mass ejections that sends waves of increased electromagnetic energy/heat – literal fire that depending on where on the sun it occurs can directly hit the earth.

Perhaps that’s why since 1975 scientists say there has been the greatest surge in temperture, especially in the U.S. west. Is it coincidence that Ti and Do considered the western U.S. from the Mississippi River to the Pacific the vicinity where they felt their best connection to their Older Member. (They both spoke about Ti’s Older Member as their Older Member even though Do knew Ti was his Older Member).

I could go on and on and on with evidence that this “given” by the so called scientific community, that says humans are responsible for the global warming trend is not at all a given and has many common sense and scientific and historic evident reasons to question.

Isn’t it interesting that it’s the largely Republican religious that most question these science claims. That’s not to say I side with the Republican religious on any other issue. Actually to be engaged in politics to try to hold office doesn’t seem to me to be a way of “seperating from one’s humanness” – the formula for upcoming prospective members of the Next Level to choose to gravitate to, as Ti and Do taught was required to graduate though was accomplished in stages in several incarnations.

But perhaps the reason many of the religious Christians don’t necessarily go along with the science of human caused global warming is because, despite the many areas where many Christians have participated in or embraced a misinformed distortion and/or dilution of the teachings of Jesus, (that are the same exact teachings of Ti and Do with up to date more accurate terms and thinking about), many are aware that it was said by Old Testament prophets that Jesus also quoted and in the Book of Revelations, (that evidence suggests Ti and Do and helpers (prophets past) stimulated in previous incarnations) that the current civilization would be both purged and eventually destroyed by fire this time, not by water, thus heat in several forms are made manifest increasingly until the option to show one’s allegience to Ti and Do and/or the Next Level is “done” and the civilization is fully spaded and recycled to rest and start a new experiment within.

Another characteristics of fire as used in Jesus and Ti and Do’s teachings relates to the way the pressure on human kingdom is increased when they arrive and again after their exit, which is the reason this LAST harvest period is referred to as the “Winepress” because we, our vehicles are like grapes and our vehicle is under pressure to yeild it’s fruit, which is the Next Level Mind we receive as we absorb and adopt more and more of  everything provided by the Older Members in their thinking, behaviors and ways. We can choose how to respond to their provided increase of pressure ultimately by either becoming with them or against them. Those against them end up siding with humans in any number of ways while those with them side with them. Those against them then are taken out of circulation because of their being more subject to the human stimulated diseases because they don’t ask for help to avoid or treat those problems as they arrise. However, where those who grow to be for Ti and Do do meet their exit of their vehicles, for those that choose to “stand for Ti and Do” in the face of ever increasing opposition to doing so that could result in their loss of their vehicles because of. In that case those souls would be “saved” for a future planting while the others are not because they won’t have the potential to grow to become members of the Next Level.

That pressure is also equivilent to the force needed to purge out impurities from gold ore to arrive at pure gold. It’s a “trial by fire” process that is stimulated by the close proximity of the Older and Younger Next Level Members Mind coming into close proximity to the earth and walking among us and taking human vehicles to communicate with us and show us how to change over and make our vehicle pure from. How much we do to move towards that purity is up to us. The Next Level doesn’t hold anyone back from giving their all, while continue to work with those who don’t yet feel they have the strength to give their all but seek the Next Level’s help to grow further towards.

Here are the indications of some of that and this fourth angels pouring out of his vial has not yet fully transpired.

These “angels soundings” seem to have begun in 1900 to where each “sounding” had with it a stage of what was described in the prophecy so the fourth sounding seems to have encompassed the 1930’s to 1940’s, the time of the Dust Bowl (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_Bowl) caused by massive drought that is reported in this Wikipedia article, saying, “the causal mechanism for the droughts can be linked to ocean temperature anomalies. Specifically, Atlantic Ocean sea surface temperatures appear to have had an indirect effect on the general atmospheric circulation, while Pacific sea surface temperatures seem to have had the most direct influence.”

I add this as additional evidence that thinking drought is caused by human activity isn’t nearly the given it’s being made out to be of late.

I suspect this “dust bowl” was what was prophesied here:

Rev 8:12 And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.

However this doesn’t seem to be the only time and way in which this prophecy would play out as there seems to be a direct correlation with every one of the seven Angel’s sounding of the described characteristics of each sounding to two primary periods of time. The first as shown in the 1930’s – 1940’s just prior to the arrival time of the Next Level Older Members and crew via intentional crashing of some of their primitive spacecraft in the late 1940’s to early 1950’s which seems to have been the prep time for the FIRST of the two harvest stages. And as a matter of fact the baseline some environmental scientists use to measure against for their “global warming” prostications is from 1951 to 1980 with 1975 showing the greatest jump in tempertures thereafter. (I can’t help but equate that with Ti and Do’s having fully awakened to their task and first public meetings in 1975 as one of the things they said was that they were bringing the “light” from the distant heavens and that terminology went hand in hand with prophecy of how that “light” from the Next Level amounts to a stimulus and pressure to grow by or be burned up by to where the burning up by translates to the waste of that force via the passions when it can be used to boost one’s consciousness above human. It’s also interesting how the Luciferians created the facsimili of that process as a tantric (sexual) meditation of moving one’s creative force up the chakra’s to awaken the kundelini force, they say yields one’s enlightenment, except what it does is enlightens one to a bonding with Luciferian misinformation mind that is a dead end because the Next Level Older Members aren’t involved in the redirection of that “force” used instead to purify the vehicle ALL IMPORTANTLY FOR USE IN SERVICE TO THE OLDER MEMBERS, rather than for self service.

So the second major time period in which the events initiated by the sounding of the seven trumpets by those messengers from the Next Level is seen by the corresponding Seven Angels pouring out their vials, with the fourth listed as:

Rev 16:8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.
Rev 16:9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.

This shows what is upcoming as though these characteristics continued from their first introduction to the U.S. apparantly it’s about to get much hotter, at least in the U.S. west and southwest which we certainly have seen with the Texas to California drought and the huge amount of increases in forest fires each year in the entire west.

Note that these don’t change the minds of who is responsible as many of the scientists have no Next Level mind in them anymore so can’t take these prophecies seriously nor the idea that the Creators are running the earth, while those who do take the prophecies seriously will mostly say they are the signs of what was supposed to happen ahead of Jesus return which is true but that they won’t necessarily recognize before they lose their physical vehicle if they don’t open up to how Ti and Do were their incarnate return in the task of the Two Witnesses and literally start a relationship with them by learning everything about they said and beginning to take a stand for them. (Do did indicate that even those that never heard of Ti and Do could be “saved on ice”, but for those that do hear about Ti and Do, the requirements are higher because they received more help to wake up to Their reality as what Ti and Do taught can never become just a body of information to study without application.

That application minimum was laid out well by Jwnody in “Away Team from Deep Space Surfaces Before Departure” as:

“In order to get saved for further planting, the overriding requirement is to recognize that this is true (these are the facts).  You must believe that we represent the Kingdom that created this planet and all of its inhabitants.  And you must be willing to take a stand in defense of that belief, and sustain that stand until the end – your departure – regardless of the consequences.”

Now that’s not to say we are held back to necessarily just being saved. Do always thought about helping us rise to our best potential not the least as he can be seen saying in the Beyond Human Series of “why do you just want to be saved”. Do also spoke about the three types of people who would go with them. Two of those types had started to engage their metamorphosis that entails seperating from one’s humanness and connecting with a present member or an active student of a present member as Jwnody also described:

“The formula is the same now as it always has been.  To begin a metamorphosis in order to be born into the Next World, you must abandon everything of this world (just as the caterpillar about to become a butterfly must do).  You must separate and begin to wean yourself of all mammalian ways – ties and addictions – replacing them with the ways and behavior of a more advanced and refined level of life.  You cannot do it by yourself.  You must seek, to the best of your ability, the guidance of a Representative who is a member of that kingdom, who has been through the metamorphic process at a previous time, and who has been sent with the specific task of midwifing newborns.  Or, at very least, you attempt to connect with an active “student” of a present Representative.  This is an extremely rare opportunity, as we approach the End of the Age.  There is a tiny remnant left of a window for catching the eye of the “caretakers of this world.”
(From https://sawyerhg.wordpress.com/2013/12/20/away-team-from-deep-space-surfaces-before-departure/)

Prophecy seems to indicate some could still graduate to receive what I suspect would be a student model Next Level grown vehicle. Jwnody wrote about this possability, referring to some who were with them at the time which serves as a type of verification of the prophecy during the opening of the fifth seal. These verses describe some who are slain for the word of God and for the testimony they held:

Rev 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

“Taking a stand” in what Jwnody described is kin to “standing up by giving one’s testimony” in the prophecy. In this prophecy “slain” is the Greek “sphazo= meaning in this context being put to death or mortally wounded by violence, unlike the way the Two and Crew “exited/seperated by dying themselves” in Rev 11:7 which was mistranslated to “kill” from greek apokteino.

I take it that’s one “consequence” some will meet for standing up for Ti and Do’s truth in days to come. Prophecy indicates that’s more to come – the “conquences” that could even result in one’s death during the upcoming time of the opening of the 4th seal because it’s during the 3rd seal opening (as we speak) when Obama the black horse is at the helm of the BEAST that those described as the “Oil and Wine” are not harmed. I suspect the Oil are those who are attempting to totally seperate from their human worldliness and standing for Ti and Do while the wine would be those who are not necessarily totally seperating from their humanness but are at least willing to stand for Ti and Do.

Rev 6:10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

Thus if I have that right, those that do lose their life standing for Ti and Do are granted “white robes” – that’s a Next Level grown vehicle I believe, said as “robe” distinguishing it from the “linen” priests wore in the Moses camp:

Rev 6:11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

Those who receive “linen” Next Level vehicles are depicted as returning with Do who is using his Next Level vehicle (that may be the same one he took with him that was named Jesus) returning as an “armada” of bright lights in the heavens as Do expressed the possability of in the Beyond Human tapes and Ti and Do made reference to as the 7th closeness being Jesus return in the statement published in, “UFO Missionaries Extraordinary”, which is described in Rev 19 that other prophecy seems to describe as consisting of the Lamb (the one who was incarnate as Jesus) with the “Four Living Beings” (mistranslated to Beasts) who each have a crew of 6 members so add up to the 24 elders with them – the ones who among the 38 + 4 who seem to most likely receive adult Next Level vehicles:

Rev 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
Rev 19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
Rev 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

I’m not giving all the detail that’s available to further support these interpretations as they are all tied into other parts of the Revelations prophecies and things Jesus said and to things Moses and Old Testament prophets said/wrote about and of course other things Ti and Do and Crew said/wrote about.

In addition to these prophecies that indicate scorching heat to come that will test everyone even more that follows the further outbreak of disease – sores of the body and mind as described in the first angel’s pouring out of vial (that by the way is indicated as affecting those that are showing their allegience to the BEAST, thus patriotism as one form) which is human generated because of what the Next Level is doing to increase the pressure on the physical earth and the humans, that we are seeing just the beginning of, and following the destruction of sea that we are seeing by the fukashima reactors dumping of tons of radioactive waste that seems to be indicated will escalate by volcanic activity polluting the seas as the second angel’s vial pouring out and followed by the further contamination of drinking water that brings with it increased bloodshed as the third angels pouring out of a vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters, which again can be the byproduct of the way human bad behaviors in terms of caring for infastructes are stressed by Next Level adjustments, additions, each of which mount the tests on humans that are all opportunities for people to recognize the Next Level as bringing “Their” garden to a close, so prompting them to shift their allegience to the  Next Level. Otherwise without these last ditch efforts to help them wake up, many would never stand a chance of waking up.

Here is some further data that brings into serious question the alleged claim that humans are the primary cause of global warming:

Apparantly there was a “Medieval Warm Period” from about 950 to 1250 AD followed by a “little ice age” generally thought to span from about 1300 to 1850.

Below are excerpts from wikipedia and Britanica articles. It’s interesting to note that these are regularily updated and in the wikipedia articles I know that those doing the updates are most always university professors of various science departments. So their bias is often included sometimes in subtle ways like suggesting human aersols have a global affect on cooling or that human population decreases like from the Black Death could have had a global affect on cooling because there are less people to burn trees to clear land to grow food so doesn’t offset the production of greenhouse gases. Or some will call volcanic gases “aeresols” instead of showing they are made up of mostly SO2 (Sulfur Dioxide) and CO2 (carbon dioxide – green house gas) and H2O vapors. I take notice because some will say the CO2 from human generation holds in the heat of the planet which they admit comes from the sun mostly while the CO2 from volcano’s reflects the heat back into space causing cooling. When I questioned one environmental science university student as to this varience in the way CO2 is considered, he indicated it had to do with amounts of CO2 saying the CO2 from volcano’s was .6% where from humans was 82% over a years time frame.

So I would ask, what year they were measuring and does it matter how many volcano’s are in the measure and how active they are putting out the gases and for what duration and whether each volcano’s has the same percentages of the type of gas emitted and over how many years do those numbers pertain. The more one gets into this the shakier their “science” seems to be just like with the vaccination science or other chemical accumulations in our environment. For instance some will say, the amount of “fomaldahyde” in vaccines is less than what we get from nature. Then one will come upon a warning that a volcanic gas can be fomaldahyde and how there is no safe amount to have in the body. These scientists really need a big database so they can cross check what one another says.

Here’s another excerpt – and note the spin calling it the “Medieval Climate Optimum, or Medieval Climatic Anomaly”. What is an “optimum” and why is it an “anomaly” – Is it because there is no significant human activity changes can be attributed to so one has to conceed it’s “naturally occurring” something we don’t even have to believe in God to consider, but then it can’t be used to generate monies from:

The Medieval Warm Period (MWP), Medieval Climate Optimum, or Medieval Climatic Anomaly was a time of warm climate in the North Atlantic region that may also have been related to other climate events around the world during that time, including China and other areas, lasting from about 950 to 1250. It was followed by a cooler period in the North Atlantic termed the Little Ice Age. Some refer to the event as the Medieval Climatic Anomaly as this term emphasizes that effects other than temperature were important. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Warm_Period

Possible causes of MWP from Britanica:

Many scientists arguing for the existence of the MWP have noted that the interval was characterized by an increase in incoming solar radiation paired with a relative absence of volcanic activity. (Aerosols expelled from volcanic eruptions have been shown to block a portion of incoming sunlight.) The combination of both phenomena would contribute to an increase in air temperatures. Some scientists have also attributed warmer air temperatures in the North Atlantic region to the delivery of warmer seawater (heated by solar radiation unimpeded by volcanic aerosols) by the Gulf Stream and other currents.
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and…

The Little Ice Age (LIA) was a period of cooling that occurred after the Medieval Warm Period (Medieval Climate Optimum). While it was not a true ice age, the term was introduced into the scientific literature by François E. Matthes in 1939. It has been conventionally defined as a period extending from the sixteenth to the nineteenth centuries, or alternatively, from about 1300 to about 1850, although climatologists and historians working with local records no longer expect to agree on either the start or end dates of this period, which varied according to local conditions.

The NASA Earth Observatory notes three particularly cold intervals: one beginning about 1650, another about 1770, and the last in 1850, each separated by intervals of slight warming. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Third Assessment Report considered the timing and areas affected by the LIA suggested largely independent regional climate changes, rather than a globally synchronous increased glaciation. At most there was modest cooling of the Northern Hemisphere during the period.

Several causes have been proposed: cyclical lows in solar radiation, heightened volcanic activity, changes in the ocean circulation, an inherent variability in global climate, or decreases in the human population.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age

The leveling off between the 1940s and 1970s may be explained by natural variability and possibly by cooling effects of aerosols generated by the rapid economic growth after World War II.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_dimming

Evidence from mountain glaciers does suggest increased glaciation in a number of widely spread regions outside Europe prior to the twentieth century, including Alaska, New Zealand and Patagonia.

There is still a very poor understanding of the correlation between low sunspot activity and cooling temperatures. During the period 1645–1715, in the middle of the Little Ice Age, there was a period of low solar activity known as the Maunder Minimum. The Spörer Minimum has also been identified with a significant cooling period between 1460 and 1550. Other indicators of low solar activity during this period are levels of the isotopes carbon-14 and beryllium-10.
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Note also how they do indicate lows in solar radiation as a cause for cooling yet they will nearly never suggest highs in solar radiation for the warming trends that preceded this little ice age and came after it.

Then there is this notion to fix human caused global warming as they see it with what I see as bizarre actions but are typical of technologiest gone wild:

“Some scientists have suggested using aerosols to stave off the effects of global warming as an emergency geoengineering measure. In 1974, Mikhail Budyko suggested that if global warming became a problem, the planet could be cooled by burning sulfur in the stratosphere, which would create a haze. An increase in planetary albedo of just 0.5 percent is sufficient to halve the effect of a CO2 doubling.

The simplest solution would be to simply emit more sulfates, which would end up in troposphere – the lowest part of the atmosphere. If this were done, Earth would still face many problems, such as:
Using sulfates causes environmental problems such as acid rain
Using carbon black causes human health problems
Dimming causes ecological problems such as changes in evaporation and rainfall patterns
Droughts and/or increased rainfall cause problems for agriculture
Aerosol has a relatively short lifetime

The solution advocated is transporting sulfates into the next higher layer of the atmosphere – stratosphere. Aerosols in the stratosphere last years instead of weeks – so only a relatively smaller (though still large) amount of sulfate emissions would be necessary, and side effects would be less. This would require developing an efficient way to transport large amounts of gases into stratosphere, many of which have been proposed though none are known to be effective or economically viable.

In a blog post, Gavin Schmidt stated that “Ideas that we should increase aerosol emissions to counteract global warming have been described as a ‘Faustian bargain’ because that would imply an ever increasing amount of emissions in order to match the accumulated greenhouse gas in the atmosphere, with ever increasing monetary and health costs.”
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One can see clearly how left to these science “religionists” where their laboratories are their churches and their men and white coats with degrees their priests make witch doctors look tame.

I know they can do many things and can solve some problems, especially when problems are running wild like cancer for instance that mostly comes from environmental degredation caused by humans. So if one get’s it if they survive their hugely invasive means to solve the problem they appear to be miricle workers.

Ti & Do= Jesus Return of “The Way Truth & Life

February 29, 2016

Comment on Youtube channel to my request for proof that I was following false prophets as Ti and Do:

John 14:6  This is Jesus speaking to his disciples, ” I am the way, the truth and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me.”
Anyone who claims differently, insisting they also have access, are false, they are serpents. Who will be dealt with.
Matthew 28:18 Jesus came and told his disciples,” I have been given all authority in heaven and on earth.”

My reply:

I agree 100% that Jesus by his example in every way provided everything needed to come to the Father and that there was no other way to come to the Father.

That is why HE gave us the Lords Prayer – showing them and us how to communicate with the Father.

It was by his example of everything he said and did and gave instructions for his disciples to think, say and do that by adopting become that only truthful “way” that can result in obtaining “Life” as Jesus meant it, which wasn’t life in the human kingdom which Jesus said was not his “world” (environment).

Did Jesus exist before he was in that body named Jesus? The answer is yes.
Joh 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

 

Did he use the name Jesus then? No. It can be shown that he was operating as the Archangel (captain of angels) called Michael, verified in Rev 12:7 but study how Michael is described as “anointed”, thus a “christ” – (part of the meaning of being anointed by God) in the Book of Daniel for more evidence.
And did not Jesus say he as the “son of man” would be returning warning us that if someone comes “in my name” saying they are christ, not to believe or follow them as they are false prophets.
If we were warned to watch out for humans claiming to be Jesus the Christ, what name would he then come incarnate with?
If he wasn’t coming incarnate in a human body again, why warn us what to watch out for among humans?
And why would he tell us when he came back he would have a “new name” and would tell us the “name of my God”. Jesus consider The Father his God?:
Rev 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
So he is going to “mark” (write) on those that seek to conquer/overcome, prevail – three names, but more accurately translated as a revealing of three new identities and the label each has for our communication – one for “God” (his and our Father) the “walled or bordered geographical area” (city of his God) and His own NEW name.
The New Jerusalem is described as about 1360 miles square in size. (Rev 21:16). And it contains those who are the “bride” – the twelve apostles. It is seen “descending” from the sky/heaven and is constructed of pure gold – a metallic element not a spiritual construct though it’s so pure it’s “like unto clear glass” which we know pure gold is transparant.
It’s a physical object.
Who did Jesus say was coming back?
Joh 14:22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
Joh 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Abode is used most often as equivilent to “living with” – “dwelling with” literally. If he was hovering among the clouds he wouldn’t be dwelling with us and notice it says “WE…will make our abode with him.

Where else does Jesus indicate He and his Father come back incarnate (in the flesh) – what a “son of man” is – a human offspring?

Rev 12:1 And there appeared (show) a great wonder in (for sake of, because of)  heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
Rev 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

Most Christian writers/speakers say this “woman” is the church but that’s false because the church is the body of believers. How can the believers give birth to someone who was to take the “throne” task. Only the Father could promote her son to the throne task she occupied.

Are there any clues to the One who was incarnate in the vehicle named Jesus – new name and the name of His “God”?

Rev 14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount (elevated rise) Sion (dry desert area), and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father’s name written in their foreheads (amid or accompanying the face).

Again, an indication the Father has a name that’s not “Father” anymore and is not said to be in Heaven either and is among the Lamb (who was incarnate as Jesus) and the 144 and myriad of thousands “standing” on a elevated rise of dry desert. One of the primary meanings to “resurrect” is to “stand up again” meaning to take over a human vehicle. Thus this is depicting the return of the ones who became the Saints because they gave their lives 100% to Jesus service and died for him as he said they MUST – drink the same cup of his blood he was drinking. That was part of the WAY Jesus was showing the WAY in truth to LIFE eternal.

That was showing him they loved him by keeping his commandment to them just as he was demonstrating by keeping his Father’s commandment to “lay down his life” for his sheep. Remember Jesus said, “no man takes it (his human life) from me”. He chose to die and did not try to save his life in the human world which he easily could have done by not coming back to jerusalem where he knew the jewish priests were wanting to kill him. In that real sense he committed what was actually a suicide (to his humanness) mission and led his disciples to do the same by telling the truth knowing they too would be hated and killed for doing so.

Rev 14 goes on to describe that each of those on the dry desert rise in their human vehicles they were instructed to take over for their task to complete their overcoming through which is the real definition of a “spirit birth” by being “born again of water (flesh)” as jesus said they would be. And they each had “harps”:

Rev 14:2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:
A “harper” is one who plays their harp and accompanies it with their voice (sound from their mouth) – a lyre-singer.
Rev 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before (in the presence of) the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

The throne at this point is both the One who was called the Father and the one who was birthed by the Father to his new position on the throne who was incarnate as Jesus.

They learn a NEW song to sing. The new song is actually taught by the Father and Lamb. It wasn’t an accident that Do, took a human vehicles named AppleWhite who became an opera singer and choral director and star in the Houston Opera for a time that he gave up to perform his task when his Father woke him up.

They were all in the “wilderness” high chapparel desert plateau living outdoors in “Medicine Bow” (as in covenant) National Forest in the no facility rustic camping area called Veedavou which means “earth born” when they changed their names from Bo and Peep to Ti and Do, named after the Song in the Sound of Music they felt was the Kingdom of God, Kingdom in the Heavens way of helping them get an idea of what their task entailed to have Hollywood produced as they did.

Hollywood is Isaiah’s definition of Jerusalem as the “valley of vision” – as in motion picture industry and the “valley” also a parched desert area and is where the Two Witnesses are both “subued” and “seperate, exit, go away from/by dying themselves. (Greek apokteino auto), though Ti left her vehicle ahead of them as shown in:

Rev 12:16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

“earth opened up her mouth” is a way of saying her body was swallowed by the earth into the grave. “She” always said, she came to get “Do” going and then would return.

Finally in this brief bit of evidence, the New Jerusalem, the new name of the new Jerusalem, that is as why tell us it will have a new name and then tell us what it is except to describe it’s resemblance in history.

When the Two Witnesses are subdued (said as overcome):

Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

First off, the greek “ptoma” is from the alternate “pipto” which means, “a ruin” so it’s not necessarily a “dead body”. However their human bodies were “dead bodies” as all human bodies that don’t change over into glorified bodies are. Jesus verified this by saying to someone who said they wouldn’t join with him until they buried their father, “let the dead bury the dead”.

What was ruined though was their human reputations that was broadcast all over the nation calling them dangerous cult leaders of the UFO cult because they said a “cloud of light” was a Kingdom of God spacecraft.

In any case, you will note in Rev 11:8 they are ruined while in the “spiritual” which is greek, “pneumatikos” meaning “non-physical” Sodom, Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified, thus the new represenative equivilent of Jerusalem as Los Angeles – the City of Angels which is a straight (street) shot west from the equivilent of Sodom in Las vegas where Ti and Do just so happened to be in a hotel when the CBS evening news broke the story that they felt ruined their mission – they were “shot down by the media” as far as they were concerned and told their students that knowing the students who were about 70 then would be in their rights to leave them because they suspected they might not be demonstrating rising from the grave the way Jesus did.

There is a mountain of evidence that this is the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Please for your sake, talk to your Heavenly father about this before discounting out of hand but ask all the questions to challenge it and I’ll be glad to show you that it’s the truth.

Zika Emergency Manufactured by the Revelations’ BEASTS

February 8, 2016
A link to the evidence follows at the end of this post.
But here’s my interpretation, hopefully what Ti and Do might say:
Excellent research on what’s most likley behind the WHO’s declaration of the global emergency allegedly caused by the Zika virus. The French were among those who didn’t buy it right off the bat and it was obvious to many of us as reported on Alternet.com. What this article clearly points to are several vaccinations administered to pregnant women in Brazil and who is behind the funding of those vaccination programs but the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. It can even look like an effort to contain bad reactions to vaccinations and as a reduction effort to reduce the populations by people fearing sex and pregnancy – stimulating more illegal abortions in Brazil as they have no legal abortions – and the evidence suggests Zika present in a single diget amount of mircroencypheline cases.
As reported before, it seems these vaccination programs pushed on people and unsuspecting pregnant women is directly applicable to the Rev 16:2 prophecy that will affect ALL who give their trust and allegience to the BEASTS (U.S. and E.U. – the heads of the New World Order that is shown by the WHO to be quite effectively a control mechanism of the “sheeple” as some like to refer to the religious but is by no means limited to religious.
I would also not be surprised to hear about other mutations being covered up as I have little doubt genetic engineering experimentations with human embryos is in progress as was reported in the alleged Dulce, NM underground base that was also alleged to be jointly operated by some human equivalent space alien race(s) with humans in the 1970’s and recently I’ve seen some reports of someone who blew the whistle saying he saw animals with mixed breeding evidenced like I think he said a rabbit with a cat head or a toad with a long snake neck and head, as was in part reported about Dulce. To think this is sci-fi can be another form of brainwashing to think amidst these deformed babies from the so called Zika virus. How do we know these engineering programs aren’t being performed in countries with less ramifications when the populus shows signs of their experimentation as they extend their testing to human populations or a virus the use often in the genetic engineering escapes their control mechanisms.
Frankenstein, and Nazi experimentation is not just a story or something of the past and limited to dictatorial regimes past but right in our midst that is becoming the “karma” for all who trust governments and their institutions (though not saying to not take advantage of the helps the medical establishment can provide when we KNOW WE NEED that HELP but not for using their concoctions as preventative while seeking to find more naturally occurring solutions to problems.
The idea of finding natural solutions to problems was part of Ti and Do’s efforts. They weren’t against using pharmaceutical medications by prescription and over the counter such as for headache relief or to dry up a runny nose, etc. But it was interesting that I just read how it was reported from some people who knew classmates when they were building their earthship near Manzano, and renting office space that among their plans for the earthship “fortress” was what they called a “pharmacy” along with a bakery and nutri-lab and mess hall, etc. When I say that I knew it wasn’t going to be a pharmacy like at Rite Aid or Walgreens, etc. Before Ti left her vehicle we did have what they called the “dispensary”. At the time we were experimenting with consuming liquid diets that were nutritious – part of weaning us from sensual stimulus from food consumption. (They weren’t trying to give us things that tasted terrible. It wasn’t about being deprived of all pleasure in that regard. It was designed that They (Ti and Do would decide what pleasures were appropriate). This way any pleasure the vehicle received was according to instruction and that’s what bonding with the Older Members is about – grafting to their Mind in every respect in the ways they were led to provide us with.) So I suspect that’s what they meant by “pharmacy” – a department that used herbs and tinctures, homoeopathic and other nutritional substances for health sustainability – at that time not knowing how much longer they would be on earth.
Here is the link:

Phoenix Lights=alien attempt to upstage Heavens Gate HaleBopp Comet Encounter

February 7, 2016

Below is my comment to a blogger who reports new airforce footage of a jet following a triangle shaped black, so called UFO, that allegedly occurred during the famous March 13th 1997 Phoenix Lights sightings. The link to her blog and the link to the video of the jet in pursuit of the triangle UFO is at the end of this post. (It shows the cockpit view from the jet and the craft it is in pursuit of that is black and triangle shaped and is very clearly some type of manufactured craft dipping and rolling about).  I wanted to express some of what I thought could have been behind the Phoenix lights event, whether this triangle craft was space alien generated or U.S. govn’t instigated or a joint human and human equivilent program development – perhaps the least likley scenerio, at least in any kind of direct fashion.

Sawyer’s comment:

You could be right about some or all of what was called the Phoenix Lights being staged one way or the other, either by humans and/or by space aliens. If it was staged by humans or space aliens, I say it was because of ideas given to humans to have a reason to do so and at that specific time and location, because that’s how both the space aliens and humans work. Ti and Do taught that all humans to include human equivilent space aliens are influenced by discarnates and/or thought projections and it’s the ones known as Lucifer and his associates, who wield the biggest influence and who teach mortal discarnates to do the same which can be as simple as giving certain humans who have authority direction as ideas they would have.

The space aliens are not one group either. Their made up of multiple races, literally brought to the earth vicinity without their knowledge by the provisons of highways in the heavens they were given a one way pass on. Othewise there was no way for them to traverse the distances within even a number of human lifetimes, though some do have extended liftimes that Do indicated to about 1000 years (which shows in the records of the current early part of the civilization).

So the space alien races don’t have one organization though may have alliances with one another that extend to human governmental organizations, I believe Ti and Do also indicated. Ti and Do spent little time on all this. It’s little tiny one sentence tidbits that when looking back and combining with what we learn about from reports shape a picture that makes reality look far stranger than any fiction, though The Next Level is the source of even that fiction indirectly and directly, though some of which comes from the ideas the Luciferian space aliens provide humans in thought as ideas and motivations to play out their agendas.

So the aliens have competitions among one another for the spoils of the planet” whcih is also spelled out in non-religious historically recorded word of mouth/written Jesus forcasting of this time, referred to as prophecy. However, in general, which always works it’s way down to the same specifics the aliens have the same agenda to steal “souls” and/or to advance human’s in technological development they can benefit from and/or advance their hybridization programs to develop new bodies from, they can program for their use (that the bodies don’t know is happening because of the mind control over them from their bith as we also see throughout human populations) or to develop longevity and survivalist technologies and sustainable energy system development – to power their spacecrafts and environments on craft and provide sustenence that also carrys over to their hiding in their underground bases where they have been forced to retreat during previous civilizational recycling times.

I know from reports that particular triangle shaped black craft that look like the one later shown to be among the first “stealth” aircraft designs were seen by people I’ve read in reports over the years and had conversation with one who is a Hopi descendent in Arizona who did quite a bit of investigation into the Phoenix lights and the triangle shaped craft who went to Virginia and got a hold of some footage of the same kind of craft in that  airspace. Virgina seems to definitely be a hub and is even where Virginia Tech hosted a mirror Heaven’s Gate “cult of truth” site and it’s interesting that it’s been “marked” it seems by the Next Level in these latest “fireball” sightings at the end of January of this year of 2016 that also marked Arizona with a sighting, Maine (kennebunkport?) to North Carolina and Kentucky, this time around.

By the way, those “fireballs” as I reported seem to be arriving in the same pattern as they did first in 2013 that started with the Russian Cherblynsk “meteor” that flew over that city and did result in some minor injuries from thousands of broken windows but no fatalities or serious injuries reported. In fact, each year starting in 2013 the Fireballs were followed by a near miss asteroid and a couple comet that in several cases came out of nowhere that came to perihelion within days of the March 22nd Hale Bopp’s perihelion, when the Heaven’s Gate “cult of truth” members layed down their lives, believing doing so was TIMED by the comet’s arrival as they had been anticipating since 1975 to come to pick them up. For those that know some of that history, one would know that at that time Ti and Do thought we’d be picked up with our vehicles, while they also thought each student that was fully embracing what they taught was literally growing something inside of our human bodies. They didn’t get any more specific than that at that time but only said we were going to experience “body changes”. It was many years later that Do spoke about how the “deposit” provided each who is “called” to the opportunity is a physical container that houses Next Level Mind (holy spirit). They knew that was what would be born but they didn’t know when the Next Level would move that “body” out of the human body and into the Next Level body that was to be “grown” for that student according to what they had risen to in their metamorphic changeover.  Therefore when it happened by their own hands that was the method to exit their human bodies and since those soul bodies are invisible to humans it was the “spririt/mind (soul) birth” Jesus spoke about happening upon his return. Therefore Ti and Do were 100% correct in thinking we would be picked up with our bodies – it just was the only body the Next Level harvests as they have no need for human bodies – they can grow them by the billions easily.

But why wouldn’t Ti and Do have said that it was our “soul body” that would be harvested in the first place. As they always said, they were only informed about what was going to happen and with certain understandings a little ahead of the student body. That is strategy becaues the Next Level knows the Luciferians will be looking for every way to create facsimili events and understandings and doubts and side issues to try to thwart the Next Level’s harvest of souls as they want souls for themselves, to add to their ranks and also resent the Next Levels authority over them so if nothing more want to try to prove them wrong at every turn.

And yet the Next Level knowing that uses it for several purposes. When something they say is later seen differently by them it’s uncanny to see how it resulted in a filtering of those who were not ready to go the distance of overcoming their humanness. Plus it provides another filter, giving people who might be on the fence an easy out as if someone wants an easy out, they too will not at that time go the distance, though for all it doesn’t mean once one has left a classroom or never even joined, that they can’t at any time switch gears and say to the Next Level, for those hearing this, to Ti and Do, they want to give it all they got, so want the help to do so. And by the way, if the “bombardment” from the lower forces we all must experience that trys to turn our eyes away from further growth towards Next Level Membership seems too hard to handle, then Ti and Do said we could ask the Next Level (Them) to ease up some.

Coming back to the Phoenix Lights, from the reports of that event, that triangle craft doesn’t seem to explain the famous “7 lights” that don’t look like one craft in their configuration, (but I don’t recall if they moved around, so could have been one craft or a combo of crafts forming a formation.) I don’t think drone technology was that well in place then).

What many in the know about space alien activity and in governments who have knowledge of space alien activity, that becomes divided into “good and bad aliens”, may not be open to considering, and that even some Christians who believe UFO’s are evidence of the fallen angels often don’t want to consider is that none of these are representative of the physical Living Above Human Beings who evolutionarily created everything. Some of these Christians will say, for instance that the UFO’s are satan yet will say space aliens don’t exist a typical way the Luciferians twist anyone’s thinking away from further reality. Where the non-christian based scientists and such, if they have recognized and dealt with the entire ufo and space aliens among us evidence will often say, there are both good and bad aliens – another Luciferian viewpoint that allows them to continue to enslave humans who were waking up more. As Jesus said “tricks” both in physical (ufo sightings and strange abduction accounts) and mental to miss the greater reality in front of us, to even sway those of the “elect” or “remainder”, another reason we won’t see the Next Level staging a sighting like the phoenix lights UNTIL the chance to be harvested in some fashion is passed as said in:

Rev 16:17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

and then Do in his Next Level vehicle with graduates in their Next Level vehicles come with their armada of spacecraft “white horses” to be seen by EVERY EYE ON EARTH. I’d bet even the blind will have a minds picture of that, though that verse that says that also  refers to all manner of people seeing and some seeing because they have eyes to see.

NEXT LEVEL STRATEGY?

One thing that seems to be apparant is how Do and Crew of the 38 students had been building an “earthship” near Manzano, New Mexico until November of 1995 and suddenly got instructions from Ti (from His spacecraft) for Do and crew to move to Scottsdale,  and Paradise Valley, AZ. They had been hauling supplies to build their compound near Manzano “all summer long” (certain residents reported) and were regularily in touch with the people they rented office space from, that saw them everyday and knew of their earthship project and some of their far out thinking that wasn’t really out of place in that area.

The group bought that 40 acre plot, where they had intended to potentially stage or hope for an exit of their vehicles at the hands of the government, thinking along the lines of staging what happened at Waco with David Koresh and the Branch Davidian group. (Do was constantly seeking Ti’s will for them to conclude their nearly 25 years incarnate and was willing to provoke the government to accellerating their exit IF he felt Ti was behind their doing so. There is a great deal to talk about regarding Do’s thinking in this regard that can easily be ignored but I’ll just say that the human vehicle was never thought of as being harvested so how the souls would exit was always something  to try to stay in tune to as they also never knew when, though at one point they took a stab at it and the spacecraft didn’t come take us away so Ti told Do that he told us later after she left that she felt like she had “egg on her face” and then some students left the classroom shortly thereafter, presumably related to that forcast of “not more than 5 years” not being accurate. Ti and Do regretted saying that. Before saying that when asked how long before the craft comes, they would say “months”. That was their instruction to say and one can easily see why – because this wasn’t going to be a start of a new religion and they wern’t interested in lots of members, and they knew that it was possible to be months and they knew that one had to have a fire under them to hit the deck running or they would never make the grade. Ti and Do always kept an urgency about changing. It was a training program afterall.

It was in mid 1994 that we first believed we might have to “self exit” our vehicles as we put that suggestion into a poster used during the last meeting we gave in 1994 after 9 months of such meetings across the U.S. That was followed by a sense that no matter what we said publically, our exit and end of the task was probably not going to occur by another’s hand.

I was with them until September of 1994 when we had a meeting with even the new members of the group that had been gathered during that 2nd public meeting offering (after 17 years living in seclusion – “overcoming our human behaviors and ways”, which was after the first public meeting spree that also lasted for 9 months) where Do described in detail a plan to self exit by drinking a barbituate mixture that would essentially put our vehicles to permenant sleep, as it says in:

Rev 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome ((to subdue)) them, and kill ((apokteino= seperate by dying) them ((auto= themselves)).

These double parens above are  the most accurate translation of those Greek words in this context. Ti and Do were subdued by the BEASTS (US) media in the public space (airwaves) and they weren’t put in graves yet their “fallen bodies” (reputations as they were called thieves) was in that public square for the “first third trimester half” as their story was in the media moreorless close to when Ti left her vehicle as we learned periodically.

At that meeting with Do in San Clemente warehouse in september of 1994 He asked each student, one by one, older and newer if they had any reservations as the first posters we used for the meetings said nothing about that kind of exit and there never was anything snuck up on anyone in my 19 years in the group. As it turned out a few did have reservations so Do asked what they wanted to do and they then wanted to leave the group and Do had “pursers” give them money and a train, bus or airplane ticket to wherever they wanted to go.

But that still didn’t leave Do with knowing that irreversilble action was to be their method of exit so he continued to explore alternatives as he had explored for most of the time I was a student, that actually started while Ti was still incarnate as they had that book by the Hemlock Society on all the ways one could self-exit. It’s really not suicide because suicide always includes some sort of negativity against self or others – for revenge or to escape difficult lessons on earth, lessons that we absolutely need to have our physical bodies to learn as once outside the physical body we are “set” in whatever we believed before we died.

I’ve already reported how some of us considered exiting by space craft pickup and/or by “fasting” our way out that was aborted after 14 days of a water only fast. And there was the time after the cocoon movie Do wondered about getting a boat to exit that way. He even bought a boat we had docked in Houston for as much as a year in case he felt instrucdton from Ti to all get on it and head out to sea.

If we believed in a Jesus that did it all (overcoming) for us, so that we didn’t have to do our own overcoming, then the “heaven” we get is just as fictitious when we die. If we die believing nothing is going to happen then that’s what we get – nothing. If we die thinking we will then be free, it is true but free only of the vehicle which is then also free to “change our mind” to grow, to have anything more than the freedom of floating around (though even that is limited though we won’t know we are limited as we won’t know that even in the first “heaven” – the spirit world there are “gates” and chambers, what Ti and Do called “buckets” or “boxes” which is a type of sorting the Next Level Above Human does with their school of spirits and souls as some who did the best they could with what they received will be “saved” for a future opportunity to be incarnate to learn more lessons at a time when an Older Member from the Evolutionary Level Above Human comes incarnate again to nurture towards an eventual chance to graduate their human condition to enter the Next physical Evolutionary Kingdom.

None of the space aliens have graduated. The fallen angels dropped out of a previous program before fully graduating though they did advance enough to have some service in the Next Level in elementary tasks as “watchers” (observers).

But back to the Phoenix lights:

So in the late fall Do got instructions to stop building the earthship though they told those in town, like I said, it was because of the upcoming winter. I’m not saying that didn’t have somthing to do with it, but as with all things associated with the Next Level there are all sorts of overviews but they don’t tell their servants on the ground incarnate more than they need to know as there is a strategy in it. They need strategy because the Luciferian space aliens have strategy as they try to second guess what the Next Level is going to do as they knew well who Ti and Do were and were seeking to steal away souls that were their students and also just resent how they have been restricted to the earth and a short distance into near space so want to do anything against them they can do.

The Next Level lets the lower forces do this against them because it provides all souls with the full free will to choose who to give allegience to, as Jesus said between the Kingdom of God and Mammon (all things that are wealth and treasure to humans). We build our strength of mind/spirit by rejecting human mammalian ways when we know there is something else to aspire to, which is why Older Members from the Next Level come incarnate to share with us in a way that’s direct to understand so not to be left with the archaic and distorted and diluted records (though the truth is still very apparant in all Jesus said, which is because the Next Level saw to it that record remained accurate enough to be used to help awaken future students to their reality and the overcoming process that Ti and Do equated to a metamorphosis).

They stayed in Scottsdale “until it started to get hot” and moved to Rancho Sante Fe from Paradise Valley, Arizona in the spring to summer of 1996.

So the strategy as I suspect was to give the Luciferians the idea they (Do and crew)  would be living and exiting from the Phoenix area and somehow blocking them from knowing when they moved to Rancho Sante Fe to exit.

But the Luciferians I suspect wanted to make their show to relate Ti and Do and crew to themselves, to the space aliens, especially for Christians to see as they had already begun to do though various sources like MUFON who had a staff member who specialized in UFO’s in religion and in the report of the Yellow Book Bob Lazar was shown where he read that the same ones who provided the 5 spacecrafts to the U.S. to back engineer their operation were the ones who also said, “we created Jesus” and said they had video footage of Jesus on the cross from that time period as proof. And I guess it’s possible they do have such footage.

That would indicate that there were some of the space aliens who did seek to commondeer who Jesus represented to turn people to themselves which is also a big part of what the Urantia Book also accomplished and then makes further sense out of the Paul of Tarsus contactee experience or at the least the idea for it, if Paul was directly working as like a double agent even unknowingly.

But the Next Level steers completly away from showing themselves to humans in such an obvious way as seven lights spread across the sky or as a triangular or wing shaped craft or as actually any of the sightings. The Next Level does things in ways humans see as “nature” – meteors, asteroids, fireballs, comets, signs in the sun, moon, stars, planets, signs in earthquakes, volcanos, storms, tornado’s, etc. weather events as then people still have no proof except the proof they get from a “deposit” that they must grow or lose that too.

After all Jesus said it would be the false christs (ians) and false speakers/teachers (prophets), that includes the space aliens directly an directly by teaching humans certain things that show “great signs and wonders” to even persuade those who are “called” (deposited with the soul container) to see the truth (which comes from the incarnate Two Witnesses who are the Father and the one called Jesus returned incarnate in the names Ti and Do.

In other words the Luciferians want to further muddy the water and this is also what is behind the “war in the heavens” – armageddon which is in progress and is a war for souls. Souls are literal deposits of the equivilent of a larva (seed, embyro) that has the potential to become a new child in the Next Level that can become an adult in the Next Level eventually.

I suspect Ti, knowing of the Luciferian plan afoot threw them a curve ball by appearing to locate in Scottsdale to exit. I suspect the Luciferians knew the exit was very near, maybe even expected it at spring solstice, passover time – the time the Israeli tribes exited from their bondage and the significance of comets.

Even if I am wrong about some of this, it’s occurred to me as I ask and dig to see more so may be accurate enough that it might help others come out of “spiritual” thinking a little more to see some of the potentials in strategy. We can think Lucifer is a myth – certainly one of the ploys he likes to spin in his web of lies along with the rest so perhaps this can be of value to someone.

That staging event doesn’t make sense to me otherwise as the Space Aliens have no reason to woo the general public though since saying that the idea popped into my head that this was staged to steal souls – an agenda they definitely have and what better time to do that but when the Next Level are drawing that huge attention. The Next Level may have blocked them from doing so at other times as if we can be wooed by the Luciferians as our choice then the Next Level gives us opportunities to be wooed though at the same time they give opportunity to ignore that wooing and keep our eyes on Them.

Here is the link that stimulated this but I am also aware that a movie is coming out in March about the Phoenix lights, perhaps with that new footage which will make it into another science fictional perspective for many.

http://www.starshipearththebigpicture.com/2016/02/03/air-force-aviator-leaks-dramatic-phoenix-lights-cockpit-footage/

Fireballs/Booms – CERES (green) Lights=hour of judegment begins

February 2, 2016

Sawyers comment to post below regarding the bunch of fireballs reported this january 2016 in Arizona, maine to kentucky to michigan, Finland, over the medeterrainian and the New Jersey booms and more, that I see at this time as the “loud voice” of:

Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

Rev 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

This doesn’t seem to refer to the time when Ti and Do and Crew went public with their information because though that’s the criteria for judgements of whether souls are saved with them or recycled, the period of Judgement hadn’t yet begun while they were here. It was a different “hour” – 40 year period. The hour of their work seems to have started in 1/1/1973 and ended on 1/1/2013 as evidenced below that then also began the judgement hour of 40 years (though that doesn’t mean we have 40 years before recycling is fully underway as shown during the 6th seals opening, as we approach the 4th seals opening now. I don’t know how fast things could happen. It may depend on our responses, something Ti and Do often said and prophecy said the “days would be shortened” for the elect so I think that means those who elect to give their all to Ti and Do will exit their vehicles before that time their vehicle might otherwise see it’s last days in the human kingdom.

So if it doesn’t refer to the Ti and Do and Crew delivery of their 7 thunders and the front of the Rev 5:1 “book” that was written from within the Throne (Ti and Do) and yet says it’s the time to “preach” the “everlasting gospel”, it sounds to me like the time of the delivery of prophecy slated for after the 6th trumpet sounds during the time of the seventh trumpets sounding that I suspect started with the 2008 National geographics final report Heavens Gate where it was suggested Heaven’s Gate could have been the “second coming” and extended sounding to the Ceres Lights revealing and the Pluto like an earth revealing (as Ti and Do talked about it being).

I believe this is preaching of the everlasting gospel is also shown in Rev 10 as the “little book” that “John” is assigned to “speak about” (prophecy), where “john” is whoever the Next Level gives the task to, which is by far not limited to any one person but anyone who wants to serve to deliver that little books content to others:

Rev 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

Rev 10:8 And the voice which I heard from heaven spake unto me again, and said, Go and take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel which standeth upon the sea and upon the earth.

Rev 10:9 And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey.

Rev 10:10 And I took the little book out of the angel’s hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.

Rev 10:11 And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.

That content of this Little Book/Backside (history of prophecy and coming AFTER the Main body of the Book) is the detailed compiling of all the evidence of how all of Jesus prophecy and teachings and the entire book of Revelations are all fulfilled by Ti and Do and Crew’s incarnate time to date and to come.

So as said it seems this was laid out in:

Rev 5:1 And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.

Said as the “backside” of the Book, and time period after their exit of their incarnate two “waves” (raptures in 1975 and 1994).

There are many evidences in prophecy to another “wave” of “sounding” and “voices” (disclosures) after the Two have exited but here is one I just found:

Jwnody reported in her document, “Overview of Present Mission” that the posting to the usenet groups of Do’s document: “Undercover ‘Jesus’ Surfaces Before Departure,” posted on September 25-26, 1995 was “premature” to post, though I’m sure nonetheless was Do’s instruction to do as the 6th Thunder (roar) as described in Rev 10’s Seven Thunders that all sound as a part of the 6th Angels trumpet sounding that ended soon after they exited their incarnations. Mature simply means that full maturity of what that position was saying will be forthcoming, though the document Do wrote is the entire basis for it. Do, as Ti simply didn’t spend much time on prophecy or much about the time after their exit.

With that said, here is a comment I left for the blogger who posted a report of many of the fireballs and other events. I follow this woman’s blog as she brings interesting things I might otherwise miss, though some of it seems off track but I provide a link to her blog entry at the end that has a bunch of links in it to these report. (Again, please forgive my bad grammer, and all else that’s wrong with this comment. I don’t have the time to polish these.  I just blurt them out at times as there is so much that I just hope someone who has a deposit of Ti and Do’s mind can become stimulated by seeing, which I do all day long when I’m not trying to finish this little book (that I believe is just a couple months from the shelves).

Sawyer commented:

Excellent reporting – Here’s my take so far.

re: the indian shootdown of a ufo – and metal balls of different reports falling from sky – I’m fairly sure that would not be Evolutionary Level Above Human in any respect. First off they would not let humans or space aliens even come close to shooting at them. They can’t even see them with any of their technology. The Space aliens are all human equivilents. Members of the Next Level are Above Human – they have no mammalian characteristics anymore but designed humans to appear like them as humanoid shapes, though that’s only one type of physical vehicle they grow for their members who have graduated from a human kingdom equivilent elsewhere in their universe.

re: the fireballs – you will note that this just started as of the start of our year which as 2016 is the year of the harvest judgement beginning in earnest with the green horse of Rev 6:8 being elected by the great Babylonian Empire (Beast) the U.S. and includes the lessor second Beast the E.U.

Remember the forerunner to these events was The Ceres “cityscape” of lights that were not space aliens nor salt – that’s balony. It’s a Next Level base they wanted to be seen at that time exactly as then it would be reported in time for it’s prophecy fulfillment in Rev 6:8 because “green” is from greek “chloros” that is related to our english word “chlorine”  that makes white/pure out of bacteria, which by the way was wrongly translated to pale by the anti-jesus christians led unknowingly by the Luciferian fallen angels now space aliens, the vehicles that they spawned as told in Genesis 6 and the Book of Enoch. So Chloros is from the same greek word “chloe” which is described as related to Demeter the goddess of the harvest and fertility whose roman counterpart is Ceres and we are really an extention of Rome in the U.S., who largely became christians starting with Constantine that helped make it popular after Paul of Tarsus either knowingly infiltrated the Jesus followers or was influenced by tricks from the Luciferian space aliens masquerading to him as Jesus. In either case, he totally diluted and brought distortion into the records that the now populist governmentalists began to cling to, so because a mechanism to control the people and have them think they get this big reward when they die, called heaven by just saying they believe in Jesus but don’t believe or do anything he said and in fact do the opposites of what he taught so that their jesus is their anti-christ – they are their own dreaded anti-christ.

One comment I saw about the fireball from Virginia said it looked “greenish”.

Now the “green horse” follows Do (of Ti and Do) on the white horse where horse desribes the human vehicle he prepared to be his vehicle to perform his task on/through as he demonstrated the metamorphosic changeover needed to gradute the human evolutionary kingdom to become a member of their Above Human family. The next horse was Red but this horse was prepared by the Lucuferian space aliens because of their agendas to try to get off the planet as they have rumors among them that the earth is going to be changing again and if they don’t escape it entirely they’ll end up having to try to survice underground for at least 1000 years. They are aware of the prophecy in that regard. So they got the humans to bring about the reasons to have endless war for the great amount of money they could funnel to black budget programs so they didn’t have to get congressional approval for much. So they got the humans to move NASA into the DOD. Anyway there is a lot to this all in my very lenghty book about to be pubished this year even soon.

Obama is/was the black horse as the prophecy goes having to do with balancing the two beasts – US and EU to create the mechanisms of the new world order – hence the WHO just showed how they can declare zika virus a global emergency which who knows what that will become. it could be fabricated entirely as an excuse for whatever purpose or it could be a way of hiding all the bad choices they  have made re: their vaccine programs that stimulate many birth defects along with gmo’s and chemicalizationj of our bodies, etc. while funneling money again for whatever usage said for an emergency vaccine as money is not only needed for the space programs that are also looking for the element bob lazar documented that provides power for the space alien spacerafts, which they are also hard at work trying to manufacture at CERN, etc. And they need money for the underground bases they continue to construct so when they see they have to, all those on their lists who have bought their “shelter” can escape what’s going to  happen on the surface.

(it’s possible that’s what the “booms” are under New Jersey but then they reported they were not seismic so that doesn’t make sense as underround explosions from fracing and/or tunneling and undgerground base making do produce seismic waves, so they could be lying about that, but why would they as they could always say it was a mini earthquake whoses pressure cause the sounds waves and all who are involved with agencies are not in the know about all this so to respond in a cover up way can be tricky, though possible of course)

But to me with all things considered, though I could be wrong about, the booms are the “thunder” in prophecy that comes at the start of the Judgement HOUR which is a 40 year period that I believe started around 2013 that I have a number or reasons for saying so.

Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
Rev 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

This crew from the Next Evolutionary Level, under Ti and Do’s instructions, being the return of the one called the Father and the one who was incarnate in the vehicle named Jesus, are flying in the middle heaven. There were three heavens according to Jewish talmud which corresponds with things Ti and Do said and that work with this prophecy as well. The Lucifer and associates only got to the middle heaven which is why they still could revert back to human mammalian behavior as they did to propogate with humans as they and their descendents continue to do now (except they don’t have their original physical bodies) but they are in “spirit” manipulating the offspring from when they were able to create hybrids with humans and their seed which is what they continue to do with humans now in abductions. They also want humans who did receive souls from the Next Level to become their servants, co-workers – “brothers/sisters” because they have no other way to get new members because all those who are space aliens were humans who were given souls because they were alive at a time when the Next Level was planting souls which they do whenever they are preparing for one of their Older Members and student crew’s incarnation into those vehicle they prepare.

Anyway, off track again as there is so much to tie together and it’s one puzzle that makes all else pale in comparison – in my opinion that is.

The reason I picked 2013, though the same kind of show occurred in 2014 and 2015 with each year starting with lots of fireballs mostly in the west third of the US and the eastern seaboard from the great lakes region to florida even.

if you recall back then it started with the cherblynsk meteor that really caused a bunch of damage but no fatalities in sibera. (Russia is the Magog area mostly and has a role to play later in prophecy I suspect after the 1000 years after the US and EU are completly fallen and annialiated in the “lake of fire”. That may happen fairly soon like I would guess at most by 20 years from now but I could be wrong about that.

Then after that meteor with booms galore there were many fireball sightings in california and montana and utah and then a huge amount of sightings from the ohio valley to northern florida with reports from maine and vermont as well. Those were in february and march. Then in march of 2013 there was a near miss asteroid and two comets that came out of nowhere. One of those coments named Panstarrs showed an object traveling immedieatly ahead of it yet still very much in the comet’s coma so it couldn’t be debris as deprise would not project ahead of the comet as this black object did.

I suspect that was to show us the same kind of thing that was photographed by the japanese to be  with hale bopp comet that the U.S. airbrushed out of their hawaii photos and covered up when it was surfaced on art bell’s show at the time fearing more people would commit suicide becuse of the Heaven’s gate groups “laying down of their human bodies” not because of the companion object but in the timing of the comet in combonation wtih their 22+ years preparation that started essentially on 1/1/1973 – 40 years before this 2013 anniversary which is when Ti and Do first got a chunk of awakening. The Next Level doesn’t have “time”. But they do have schdules but they are in “events” they schedule using the planetary bodies they design to function they way they do as the earth is their hothouse to grow souls on using human vehicles as their “footstool” to “deposit” their type of “seed” into, called a soul to grow it to become a Next Level member if it chooses to follow the program which is actually like a God Astronaut training program in a new society of beings that thrive on being apart of these projects forever while humans and earth’s come and go along with the human spirits that they don’t salvage from an earth that’s in need of recycling which is about to happen in the next couple decades to degrees but will not annialate all the humans and the earth will repair itself from all the damage humans have done to it.

I could list the comets and near miss asteroids  that came out of nowhere last year and the year before that but I’ve already dumped more than most can stand so I’ll restrain myself. I don’t know if the Next Level will repeat this coming march (their exit anniveary with a near miss asteroid and comet or not) as all they do can be under the heading of that “angel flying in the midheaven – midst of heaven”.

I guess my vote is that they were not ordinary so called meteors and that’s why they are being called fireballs a relatively new term becaus they don’t behave like meteors really.

http://www.starshipearththebigpicture.com/2016/02/01/more-spacecraft-shoot-downs-fireballs-january-2016-videos

Sawyer comments on Article about Cddody’s (Fred’s) vehicle’s death

January 28, 2016

The link to this article is at the end of this post but I’ve included the text of that article so I could make inline comments to correct or show more light on some of what is reported because I was in touch with Cddody, who is in this article, Dale “Fred” Mackey.  My comments are in brackets that start with Sawyer.

Article starts here:

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Former member of UFO suicide cult buried in ABQ

By Joline Gutierrez Krueger / Journal

Published: Tuesday, January 26th, 2016 at 10:45pm
Updated: Tuesday, January 26th, 2016 at 11:07pm

Former member of UFO suicide cult buried in ABQ

[picture inserted here of Rancho Sante Fe mansion with the caption below:]
Bodies of some of the 39 members of the Heaven’s Gate cult are loaded into a truck outside the mansion in Rancho Santa Fe, Calif., where the members committed mass suicide in March 1997. One of the members, Dale Fredrick Mackey of Albuquerque, was supposed to film the suicides but had fallen sick and was not present. (The Associated Press)

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. — Dale Fredrick Mackey seemed to fall off the planet.

Few had known what had become of the Albuquerque man over the past six decades until his obituary appeared in the Journal last week. He had died in Dallas at age 81, they learned, but in November, though no explanation was given as to why it had taken until last Friday for him to be returned to his hometown to be interred near his parents at Fairview Memorial Park.

The obituary listed the usual accomplishments – Mackey graduated from Albuquerque High School in 1952, the University of New Mexico in 1956 and a master’s program at the University of Southern California in 1959. He had served in the Army Reserve. He had “served the Lord Jesus.”

It also listed some not-so-typical accomplishments, including his work as a film editor and director at MGM Studios.

[picture inserted with caption]
MACKEY: Former Heaven’s Gate cult member comes home

And this: Mackey at one time had been a member of Heaven’s Gate, the UFO-worshipping cult whose 39 members, including founder Marshall Applewhite, committed suicide en masse sometime before March 26, 1997, at a Rancho Santa Fe, Calif., mansion, in a bizarre plan to leave their bodies – “vehicles,” as they called them – to board a spaceship tailing the Comet Hale-Bopp as it passed close to Earth.

[Sawyers correction – They did not worship UFO’s. First off to worship Do said meant “to work for” but even in the religious misinterpretation of worship of honoring or looking up to or respecting or bowing to, it’s misinformation to say because a UFO is an unidentified flying object, so they’d be worshipping something they don’t know what it is. To Ti and Do the groups founders/leaders and teachers a UFO was a populist abbreviation they didn’t actually approve of using in the first posters advertising meetings but since the students designed that poster and it became part of their identity nationally because of the story hitting the press in October of 1975, they used it, but Ti and Do would have said “spacecraft” and described that it was in the Bible what was, for instance, described as a “cloud of light”, which they did not worship as to them it would be like worshpping the Air Force One instead of the President who uses that transportation device.]

[Sawyers correction – They said it didn’t matter to them whether there was a spacecraft tailing the Hale-Bopp Comet. It was made clear to them that the comets arrival was their “sign” in the timing of their exit of the human vehicles they borrowed to perform their tasks through.]

I did not make that up.

Had Mackey not fallen ill and into a more earthly religion, the obituary said, he might have offed himself, too.

Which is to say, he had almost fallen off the planet.

[Sawyers comment – This almost sounds like a freudian slip in several ways though in the way they meant it, his getting ill had nothing to do with whether he would have otherwise “offed  himself”. In actuality he wasn’t permitted to stay in the group. He was sent to the half way situation because he was causing trouble in the group. He got into a pushing match with Alxody once. I don’t know who pushed who, but I do know at the time that Fred was acting like he didn’t want to be in the group anymore, where Alxody if he did any pushing was losing control for the moment as Alxody did have a short fuse at times – nothing major but I can certainly imagine that Fred pushed his “buttons”, which is not an excuse if he ended up pushing Fred. Alxody also went to a half way situation at that time as I mention in a later comment. Now for the freudian slip part because one could say from a Next Level perspective that Cddody (Fred) fell ill in terms of staying on the straight and narrow (as did I and all dropouts) and as a result “fell to earth” from that path into the “kingdom in the heavens”. Had he not become ill in that way, then presumably he would have conquered his influences enough to stay the course of giving his all to the Next Level through Do, so would have been among the 38 other students that “offed themselves” the populist way of describing their exit of their vehicles.]

 

 

“We left town the morning that obituary ran,” said Mackey’s cousin Barbara Schafer of Albuquerque. “I picked up the paper, read it later, and, my gosh, I couldn’t believe it.” Schafer and another cousin, Ann Greenwood, are the only known Mackey relatives left.

Schafer thought he had died years ago.

So had Greenwood.

“Dale dropped out of existence,” said Greenwood, who lives in San Jose, Calif. “I assumed he must have died somewhere along the way.”

Both cousins say they had heard the cult rumors.

“I remember hearing Dale had given away all his worldly possessions,” Shafer said.

But both say nothing about their cousin suggested that he was cult material. He wasn’t on the fringe or off-the-wall, they said. Just nice, talented.

[insert of a picture of the Manzano “earthship” with the caption]
A wall made of tires filled with dirt fortified the 40-acre compound inhabited by the Heaven’s Gate cult in 1995-96. The compound was in the Manzano Mountains near the small community of Manzano, about 55 miles southeast of Albuquerque. The wall has since been dismantled, and 39 members of the cult committed suicide in March 1997 in Rancho Santa Fe, Calif. (Adele T. Chavez/The Albuquerque Tribune)

Longtime Albuquerque attorney Michael Keleher agrees. Keleher, who knew Mackey as a Sigma Chi fraternity brother, recalled that Mackey was the only child of parents who ran a clothing store Downtown and that he had an interest in art.

“But we never really had a conversation about what he was going to do after we graduated,” Keleher said.

Mackey likely had numerous chances to encounter Heaven’s Gate, both in Southern California and in New Mexico, hot spots for cult recruiting in the 1970s. At its height, the cult had about 200 members.

[Sawyers addition: He was among the couple dozen that joined following the talk Ti and Do gave to a New Age meditation group at one of the group members house in North Hollywood, in early April of 1975. He later received the name “Cddody”]

Mackey may have been one of the recruiters. In the summer of 1975, Mackey had visited John “Mickey” Craig, a former UNM classmate, according to an Albuquerque Tribune article. Both men would have been about 41.

A week later, Craig disappeared, abandoning his wife, children and their Colorado dude ranch, resurfacing 22 years later as Brother Logan, one of the 39 who committed suicide in 1997.

Logan had also been among the 40 or so pale, short-haired cult members who in June 1995 settled briefly on a 40-acre compound in the Manzano Mountains, where they began erecting an earthship, a 3,700-square-foot maze of rooms and hallways constructed of fortified dirt-filled tires.

By the spring of 1996, the cult had abandoned the earthship and headed to California.

A year later, the members dressed in matching Nike shoes and black attire adorned with a Heaven’s Gate “Away Team” patch. They each carried $5.75 in their pockets. In three shifts, each drank a fatal barbiturate-and-vodka cocktail, wrapped plastic bags around their heads, covered themselves in purple shrouds and waited for the spaceship to whisk them away.

Mackey was supposed to be among them.

[Sawyers correction: There was no “supposed to be…” anything. The reason he wasn’t with them was because in 1988 when the group lived on a ranch  about 20 miles north of Dallas, Texas, Do felt cddody (Fred) needed some time outside the “classroom”, what Ti and Do called their groups effort to overcome the human evolutionary condition. Do also felt three others needed that experience. They were Alxody, Sngody and Anyody. At the time Brnody, the  member of the group who has osteoporosis was living in an apartment in north Dallas, because Do had previously thought she needed to be on her own so Do set her up with the apartment and the handicapp equiptment, scooter and the mechanism to load the scooter onto a car and a way for her to drive the car using hand brakes, etc. I was one who helped set her up with some of that at the time. I would estimate that apartment for Brnody was started in late 1987 or early 1988. Anyody was actually sent to live with Brnody before Alxody, Sngody and Cddody. When these three were sent there they actually were set up with another apartment nearby. All of these except for Cddody later rejoined the larger body of students. Cddody was given the option to return as well but chose not to rejoin the group. When I left the group in 1994, I moved back to New York where I had been from and I was in touch with Alxody’s vehicle’s mother Nancy who I started communicating with as she had formed a network of parents and loves ones of the group members, trying to learn of their whereabouts over the years. Nancy knew where Fred was, still actually in Dallas in that same apartment. I decided to travel out west with my new partner as she wanted to buy land somewhere out west so I said I knew a lot of people I had been in the group with that had dropped out before I did so we could visit them and have places to stay at the same time along the way. I contacted Fred and he was open to a visit so we took the trip in the spring of 1995 and one of our first stops was Dallas where we met up with Fred and had dinner. Then after the group layed down their lives I had another occasion to be in Texas, actually around 2005 or so and we visited with him in Dallas again. He was a little unhappy at that time and was thinking about moving to Albuquerque as there was a woman inviting him to live together. I got a Christmas card from him some years ago saying he had moved to Albuquerque.]

And here we turn to Pastor Paul Kerr of the Mill Valley Fellowship in suburban Dallas. It was Kerr who had placed the obituary in the Journal and brought Mackey’s cremains home.

Kerr knew Mackey as Fred.

“He was very friendly, outgoing, helpful as a great volunteer,” he said. “He helped edit videos for the church. Then he got sick and I and my wife ended up being the only persons who would go see him.”

Mackey, he said, was supposed to film the suicidal end of the cult but fell ill beforehand.

[Sawyers comment: I guess it’s possible Do and Crew contacted Fred before they exited their human vehicles, what people called suicide, (not knowing better because how their actions did not resemble anyone else’s choice to die that are always because of depression or anger, vengence or other mental distresses, that these 39 showed no evidence of. But what Kerr may be referring to is how Fred, being the film major, while with the group in 1975 was given a video camera by, perhaps Hayden Hewes or Brad Steiger with the agreement that he would film their pickup by a spacecraft as at that time Ti and Do thought that would be the way they would leave earth, with their human flesh bodies. We carried that camera around for years. I know because I was always involved with packing the trucks and remember the camera being in a closet, reserved for that occasion should it happen that way. Ti and Do didn’t actually ever claim to know exactly how that exit would happen. But I suspect a mix up of understanding in this statement from Kerr because the group exit was 1997 and I visited with Fred Mackey in 1995 and he was not ill that I could tell and then I visited with him after the group left and he wasn’t ill then either. I was aware that he was editing video for that church group that I believe he said was on Forest lane, in Dallas. I knew of that church as we actually while in the group had a house off of Forest lane.]

“He was really sick, critically ill,” Kerr said. “He told me a minister came to pray for him, and he literally got out of his bed and walked out of that hospital. He turned his back on the cult, turned his life to the Lord and never looked back.”

[Sawyers note: In 2005 or so when I said I visited with Fred for the second time since 1995, we did talk about Ti and Do. He was curious about a number of individuals who had also dropped out that I was still in touch with. By then Dick Joslyn known in the group as Dncody (Dance) had died related to HIV, who I had also visited with in 1995 in Sodona, Arizona where he was living then. He was a good friend of Fred’s and both joined with Ti and Do in 1975 from that N. Hollywood meeting. Dick left the group for the last time, I believe in 1989. Anyway, during my meeting with Fred in 2005 it was clear to me he no longer believed Ti and Do were from the Kingdom of God, Kingdom of Heaven, what they called the Evolutionary Level Above Human. I believe he told me at that time that he thought Do had changed from what he and Ti had intially thought – that Do got off track, which was one of the opinions that came initially from Professor Robert Balch of the University of Montana in Missoula, MT who became the go to, for academics on Heaven’s Gate. (Do actually sent me to help Rob at his office in Missoula to provide answers to his questions for a book he was adding a chapter for, that was about the group. This was in 1994). So yes he did turn his back on the cult and I knew became a little religious with that church group but the way this was worded made it look related to his walking out of the hospital. Anyway, had by 2005 become an active believers in Ti and Do again, not that I ever really lost belief. I actually flunked out of their program and I did express some of that to Fred in 2005. It didn’t matter to me what he did or didn’t believe. I wasn’t recruting. There was no new group and still isn’t.]

At anything.

A few people showed up at the graveside service in Albuquerque last Friday, among them Schafer’s daughter, Lisa Chavez, as a favor to her vacationing mother; and Keleher. Whatever they might have hoped to learn about the long-lost Mackey, why he had fallen away so far so long so strangely, stayed unknown.

“That cult was a curious thing,” Keleher said. “Kind of weird.”

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