Critique of Rolling Stone article “Heaven’s Gate 20 Years Later: 10 Things You Didn’t Know”

March 29, 2017

To follow is my critique of the Rolling Stone 20 year anniversary of Heaven’s Gate “suicides” starting with the link to the article and the text that I commented to as needed:

Rolling Stone article:

Heaven’s Gate 20 Years Later: 10 Things You Didn’t Know

From cult members’ eating habits to the sneakers the group wore during its infamous 1997 mass suicide
Heaven’s Gate 20 Years Later: 10 Things You Didn’t Know
By Michael Hafford

Twenty years after their mass suicide made headlines across the world, Heaven’s Gate is still one of the most notorious cults of the 20th century – not to mention one of the most recognizable. In March 1997, America was shook by the strange story that included mass suicide, wild public-access-style videos, an obsession with U.F.O.s and, in true late-Nineties fashion, tracksuits and matching Nikes. They also had a new recruitment tool: the Internet.

*** Sawyer’s comment:

Evidence reveals the distortion in this statement about the Internet as a new “recruitment tool”. Even though they never “recruited” as has been seen but most, if not all religious and spiritual and secular organizations, there were only two short periods of time when they held public meetings to see if there were any who identified with their information.

1) From April of 1975 which ceased by June of 1976 and
2) January of 1994 (with two test meetings in November of 1993) and lasted until August of 1994.
3) In 1996 they put up their web site, and from it two people joined and one soon left.

If recruitment was ever their interest why limit it so and why choose to exit their vehicles after only one “recruit” from the Internet. It was only their interest for two short periods of time primarily and then towards the time of their exit in 1996.

However, since then the Internet has been the primary way for people to learn the truth about Ti and Do and the group since the media has largely not dealt with the truth as their primary interest. This is evidenced by the way Wikipedia pays no attention to what Do wrote unless it was published by someone else who was writing about the group and they were not pro telling the truth about what they said and did.


Heaven’s Gate has the distinction of being the first well-known American cult of the Internet era, using the new technology to share their beliefs with a wider audience and also to make a living. They derived a large portion of their income from designing web pages. Formed in the Seventies, they had become reclusive by the start of the 1990s and started attempting to recruit members online using the organizational name “Higher Source” for the website.

*** Sawyer’s comment:
They had a number of members of the group who were working in high tech management positions for years that probably made a lot more money than that little business. For instance Nrrody had been the head Technical Writing department manager for Texas Instruments. Mllody had been a Senior level programmer analyst for large banks included Mtech and Hewlet Packard. Others like Stlody was a Certified Network Engineer. I worked with all three of these at one company in California. One of the individuals who worked at their web design company was named Glnody. He got his start when I formed a company with Srrody – a very sharp low level programmer and secured a contract for a consultant in Dallas that maintained Anheiser Busch’s Bakery subsidiary as subcontractors. I gave him and others like Chkody their first programming lessons. Alxody was also a certified Network Engineer.

Though the web would eventually become central in the organization, the group’s origins were much more grassroots. In the early 1970s, founders Marshall Applewhite and Bonnie Nettles – a Texas music teacher and nurse that he met during a stay in a psychiatric institution – renamed themselves Bo and Peep and took a six-month-long road trip across the United States. Around 1974, they assembled a group called “the crew.” For the next two decades, they lived all around Southern California. Thought Nettles died in 1985, Applewhite kept the group together, and when the Internet was introduced to consumers in the early 1990s, they began using the new technology to share their beliefs with a wider audience. The reclusive group also used it to make a living, deriving a large portion of their income from designing web pages.

*** Sawyer’s Comments:
They at first traveled together from 1/1/73 to early April of 1975 when they to their surprise had students so became called Bo and Peep. we as a group were never called “the crew”. We did refer to ourselves as a crew but not as a title. We lived all over the western U.S. but mostly in the southwest from Texas to California and Colorado and Wyoming mostly not all that much time relatively speaking in southern California. There was no Internet we were aware of in the “early 1990’s”. We did upload our Beyond Human tapes to Satellite through Hughs Broadcasting uplink service. Other that we used traditional media when we went public for the second time in the early 1990’s.

re: the big psychiatric hospital misinformation:

I pulled this comment from the Huffington Post article that claimed this psychiatric hospital meeting [2] and also said they “fell in love,” [3] so I included the sections that show how both were not based on any facts but now have become “alternative facts,” even unconsciously creating myth from reality.

Here’s what Do wrote in 88update that I witnessed he and Ti referring to several times:

“In the early 1970’s, two members of the Kingdom of Heaven (or what some might call two aliens from space) incarnated into two unsuspecting humans in Houston, a registered nurse and a college music professor who were in their forties. The nurse and the professor hadn’t previously known each other and had completely separate lives. The registered nurse was happily married with four children, worked in the nursery of a local hospital [2 – what kind of psychiatric hospital has a “nursery?”], and enjoyed a small astrology practice. The music professor, a divorcee who had lived with a male friend for some years, was contentedly involved in cultural and academic activities.

For about a year before they met, their lives seemed to encounter severe upheaval and personal confusion, later recognized as the human body’s response to the entry of the minds from what “the two” referred to as the “Next Level,” or the physical level above human. About nine months after they first met, they left Houston because their lives, which were crumbling around them, made it impossible to concentrate on what was actually happening to them.

Most of their friends and associates thought the two of them had lost their minds or were being duped into a relationship by the other. The only relationship they shared, certainly having no physical attraction toward each other, was the compulsion to discover what had brought them together and what might be their purpose. They had little in common other than strong personal relationships with their Heavenly Father.” [3 – fell in love”?]

So where did the “psychiatric hospital” idea come in and where was it that they “fell in love” and no mention of “extraterrestrials” though I would give that last point some liberty. Here is yet another view as said by DO live on the video series he started in 1992. By the way I am introduced as Sawyer in the video and my face is shown as with Jwn his two “helpers” in the video:

Beyond Human — The Last Call – Session 1

10th paragraph:

In the early 70’s, for unknown reasons (and this is just my attempt to explain to you what occurred), for unknown reasons – things we could not understand – my life began to suddenly fall apart.  It had been a very stable life, an acceptable life, certainly one that was considered legitimate and had respect to it in the community, as did Ti’s life. And her life separately began to fall apart.  We did not know each other.  We’d never seen one another that we were aware of – had never met.  Then in the early 70’s, I think around ’72, we met just perchance while I was visiting a sick friend in a hospital where Ti was a nurse.[2 – met in hospital where Ti was a nurse that had a nursery] From that moment, my life changed – changed very significantly. I rebelled.  I didn’t want it to change, and yet I knew it had to change.  And the conflict that was in me was very great.

The same thing was happening with Ti.  She knew she had something to do with me.  I tried to reject that idea. Ti was confused for awhile and wondered, “Well, why do I recognize you, and you don’t recognize me”?  And even though I might have thought I didn’t recognize Ti, I knew that I couldn’t cut it off. And yet here we had separate lives, separate careers, families, involvements in the world, and all of a sudden, just because we met, something was causing us to have to become more involved in spite of our desire not to.  Not involved in a human way.  There was never a coming together in that we were bed partners or involved in a physical relationship. [3 – “fell in love?”] But there was something that compelled us to spend time together and listen to each other, and search together.”

I know reporters went to Houston to talk to people that knew them and no doubt one or more could have said they thought they were having an affair. I know that DO told us that they got a court order against Ti’s vehicles husband (as I don’t know if they had divorced yet by then) because he threatens DO. So it was fertile ground for conjecture but that doesn’t mean they are facts.

Why not believe what Do wrote in several documents at different times years apart and that I heard Ti talk about a decade or so earlier, to confirm as the most accurate account? They would still be considered evil cult leaders even then. What did they have to gain by making up that story. Especially in 1994, why would Do hide the truth from his dedicated 24+ students when they were going to go out on the road again after 17 years in seclusion to “recruit”, (that actually never was as other groups did so, which I provide evidence for)? We held meetings in Dallas, Houston, Addison and Austin that year and DO wasn’t traveling with any of the groups while they went out among the people to put up posters advertising the meetings and looking for free press coverage. I was even part of a multi group effort that did a big story for the Dallas Morning News then in which Ollody’s many paints were shown on television. We visited most every health food store and book store and campus to advertise our meetings. How unlikely would have it been to run into someone that knew of the story about Applewhite and Nettles from 1975. I don’t know if that happened. However in 1975 at Christmas time, having joined 3 months before then, I with my partner who Ti and Do had assigned me several months before then, were out on our own with no connection to a larger group or to Bo and Peep (the names they still used then), hitchhiked (because our car broke down) to Houston where Dandy actually knew some people who we stayed with for a night or two. While there, they had some people over and it just so happens one was a women who told us she knew Applewhite and that he had wandering hands, I think she said. I thought that was a sexual insinuation. I didn’t think she was making it up but nor did it dissuade me or have me question what I was doing. I had been a rogue hippy vagabond musician for years before then, exploring a number of spiritual forms, to which I could never really feel one with, that is until I met Ti and Do and knew I had to give up my instruments and girlfriend and the house I was building in a startup commune in Oregon to follow them. My point is, how did they know what any of us heard about them, even when groups did meetings in 1975-6 in Austin, Brownsville, El Paso, Houston, Nashville, Lubbock and San Marcos? They could have started to tell their stories of how they met, which I only recall in the early 1980’s while living in houses and could have said things that could give a student a hard time believing because of what they heard. Why would they have risked making up a story when they were already hated by people all over the country even without that story and how would their story make it better for them anyway?

Common sense says that their story as told by Do is the most dependable one but seems to be the one most all the media outlets I’ve seen and that’s been many dozens since 1975 avoid like the plague. I can offer an explanation for this but most will have a hard time with it, but it doesn’t matter, the facts stand on their own.

Here is where so many reporters get their “facts”:
According to Applewhite’s writings, the two met in the psychiatric hospital where she worked during his stay there.[5] The two quickly became close friends.[6] He later recalled that he felt like he had known her for a long time and concluded that they had met in a past life.[7] She told him their meeting had been foretold to her by extraterrestrials, persuading him that he had a divine assignment.[8][9]

(7) Lalich 2004, pp. 44, 48.
(8) Balch & Taylor 2002, p. 210.
(9) Lalich 2004, p. 43.

Do only wrote about this in 88 update and spoke about it in Beyond Human – The Last Call video tape session 1 so perhaps these references refer to one of these documents as the video tapes were transcribed so are available in print.


The cult’s philosophy took its roots from Applewhite’s Presbyterian upbringing – his father was a minister – and essentially grafted belief in extraterrestrials onto Christian theology. Applewhite told his acolytes that he was the second coming of Jesus Christ, that God was an alien, and that they were living in the end times. They read the Bible, especially, Revelation Chapter 11 in the New Testament, a section about two witnesses that would prophecy. At the end of their prophecy, they would have to battle demons, which Applewhite and Nettles called “the Luciferians.”

**** Sawyer’s comment:
There is no evidence in Ti and Do’s teachings of “Applewhite Presbyterian upbringing” unless you count belief that Jesus and his Father were was from the Kingdom of God. If anything they were contrary to most all the standard Christian belief variances. Their book found at and my book at http://www.TIandDOTheFatherandJesusHeavensGateUFOTwoWitnesses are good references for this.

Do never told us he was Jesus Christ. Here’s why. Jesus was the name of the physical body an Older member from the Next Level took to perform his task through. That same body was never scheduled to come back in an incarnate way. Ti and Do said this clearly in 1973, 1975 and thereafter. Lots more evidence available. They did say they were fulfilling what Christians called the Second Coming. Ti nor Do ever said God was an alien. Do did write that some humans might see members of the Next Level as aliens.

The Bible was never a source of lesson material for the classrooms Overcoming process. In the 1990’s it was referenced more because that was when Do felt we needed to be “who we are” (1987) which meant say we were the return of the same Souls who were in Jesus and his disciples, (which Jesus actually taught would be returning and completing their “spirit birth” by having a “water birth” where spirit was compared to the invisible but physical wind and “water” was compared to the human kingdom’s flesh basis. Ti and Do said this was not reincarnation the way it’s described by most eastern religions.

We never as a classroom from 1975 to 1994 ever sat down to read Revelations chapter 11 about the Two Witnesses. Do writes about when He and Ti recognized that was the prophecy they were fulfilling not liking the idea.

Here is what Do wrote about that in 88Update:

“Their real or more in-depth awakening occurred over several months
while camping on the Rogue River near Gold Beach, Oregon.  While there
they came to believe that they were the Two Witnesses mentioned in the
Book of Revelations.  This was extremely difficult for them to accept,
for they were both the type who were “turned off” by people who
thought they were reincarnations of Cleopatra, or some Egyptian king
or Biblical character.  To have to believe that they were assuming a
role that would have caused them to “run the other way” had they seen
someone else assume it, was more than hard to digest.

In spite of that difficulty, they felt that they really had no
choice but to tell the world what the real Kingdom of Heaven was – a
physical evolutionary level, instead of some mystical cloud-and-harp,
spiritual existence as Lucifer has popularly twisted the scripture
quoters to misinterpret.  The term “evolutionary” here does not refer
to the theories presented by Darwin, but to a level of life that can
be entered only after overcoming or rising above the ways of the human
world, and only with the assistance of a Member of the Heavenly

I never heard Ti use the term Luciferians but they did acknowledge Lucifer and his associates were working against all but that it was part of the design to have students get stronger to conquer their influence.

Ti and Do didn’t derive what they came to know from the Bible. It only added verification to what they both knew and received individually. It was an uncanny experience watching them work together. Some audio tapes are available.


But then, in late March 1997, 39 members including Applewhite wearing black track suits and sneakers, ate apple sauce laced with barbiturates and washed it down with vodka. They then put bags over their heads, purple shrouds over their bodies, and laid down to leave their earthly vehicles behind. They weren’t killing themselves, they thought, but freeing their souls from their so they could ascend to a spacecraft flying in the wake of the Hale-Bopp comet – which at that point was passing by Earth – and were going to be taken to their new home in space. Instead, police found their bodies on March 26th, and the images of the white and black Nikes poking out from under a purple cloth would be burned into the eyes of a generation.

*** Sawyer’s comment:
They said it was “irrelevant” whether there was a spacecraft in the wake of the Hale Bopp Comet. They said the Comet served as their “marker” for the timing of their exit.

Here, 10 things you might not know about the Heaven’s Gate cult and its infamous mass suicide

The cult borrowed a lot of imagery from science fiction
Applewhite and Nettles were huge fans of Star Wars and Close Encounters of the Third Kind, and they brought some sci-fi to the group – resulting in theories like that Mary had been taken aboard a spaceship and impregnated with Jesus. It also led to the members that would eventually kill themselves to wear patches that said “Heaven’s Gate Away Team,” which you can see in the group’s farewell video, a reference the specialized crew that went on missions to alien planets in Star Trek.

*** Sawyer’s comments:
They were not “fans” of Star Wars or Close encounters though they had us see them when they came out and had a little to say about each. They did think Mary was artificially inseminated by the Next Level on a craft to prepare the vehicle named Jesus for his task. I don’t know where that idea first came to them.


The group also believed that God was an advanced alien traveling in the spaceship in the trail of the Hale-Bopp comet, and that he planned to soon “recycle” the Earth. The group committed suicide so that they could ascend to “The Evolutionary Level Above Human.”

*** Sawyer’s comment:
What humans called Suicide was simply the method to exit their vehicles. Ti and Do always said and even hoped they would leave with their bodies but were prepared for all options. This is part of why it seems they packed travel bags.

God was a term that any adult member of the Next Level would earn by graduating into the Next Level from the human kingdom. They spoke in terms of Older Members and Younger Members of the Next Level and always said it was a “many membered Kingdom” and they used/wore physical bodies they MADE so were not reproduced by mammalian reproduction they had outgrown.

They did say there was a “chief of chiefs” the oldest most experienced member of the Next Level who humans could not understand but if they graduated into the Next Level would begin to understand more about where He came from.

They made headlines early on
In September 1975, the group visited the small town of Waldport, Oregon, to give a lecture about how U.F.O.s were soon going to make contact with the human race. According to an article in the New York Times, roughly 150 people packed into a motel hall to hear Applewhite’s lecture. At first the town thought it was a joke, but soon, 20 people – or about one in 30 residents of the town – packed up, told their loved ones goodbye, and drove off.

“A score of persons… have disappeared,” Walter Cronkite said on the CBS Evening News. “It’s a mystery whether they’ve been taken on a so-called trip to eternity — or simply been taken.”

They had gone to a meeting of about 400 people in Grand Junction, Colorado, who believed they would be visited by alien beings. The rendezvous never happened, but the congregation did escape with their lives. According to the Times, none of these Oregon residents were among those found in 1997.

*** Sawyer’s comment:
I joined from the Waldport meeting. Do said there were 34 new members from that meeting. Most were not from Waldport where I lived actually.

I  think something got very mixed up with talk of some congregation escaping with their lives. I met them in at the Colorado National Monument after tying up the loose ends of my life in Waldport and we soon left for a Boulder Campround and then up to Poudre River. I didn’t join for a ufo ride. Nor did most of those who became core believers in Ti and Do. They simply recognized Ti and Do somehow and knew this was what they wanted to do. The Student Exit tapes verify this.

Lvvody, Jnnody, Ollody came from the Waldport meeting and I think Ollody was going to school in Eugene.


Members were devotees of the Master Cleanse.

Aside from abandoning your family and turning over all your money, cult members were asked to cleanse their bodies of the impure influence of things like fast food and impure sexual thoughts. That often involved things like the Master Cleanse, invented in the 1940s by Stanley Burroughs and republished in 1976 in his book The Master Cleanser. Cult member Rio DiAngelo, real name Richard Ford, told Newsweek that the group took it much farther than the diet’s other So-Cal acolytes – they drank nothing but the mix of lemonade, cayenne pepper and maple syrup for three entire months.

*** Sawyer’s comments:
Yes, we used the Master Cleanser several times but were not “devotees” to it.

Fast food was never one of the things Ti and Do ever said we needed to cleanse our bodies from though we seldom had fast food and knew of it’s poor nutritional value. We did eat at Taco Bell by Choice a time or two or if we had to eat fast food we would.


Originally, the cult promised that members wouldn’t have to die to ascend to a higher plane.
According to the BBC, members were originally told that they would be able to exit their “containers” without resorting to suicide. They told L.A. Weekly in 1994 that they hoped to be beamed up into space, taking their bodies with them into the “Next Level,” as members called their version of the afterlife. In the mid-1980s, when Nettles died of cancer, Applewhite amended his teachings to say that they would be given a new body in the Next Level, so their bodies wouldn’t necessarily go with them. The group acknowledged that death might be necessary if they were to be picked up by the alien spacecraft, but appears to have held out hope that they could do so without dying.

*** Sawyer’s comment:

It’s true at first Ti and Do thought only they would lose their vehicles. They even maintained that possibility to 1997 the reason they carried travel bags incase Ti took them without their needing to die.

Do, (Applewhite, his vehicle) never “amended” He and Ti’s teachings. they always said upon graduation the graduates would be given a new Next Level vehicle. They were not aliens. That is the distortion the Luciferian space alien fallen angels are still trying to brainwash humans to think. Ti and Do were from the Next Level who created everything – all the planets and all the life forms and they allow the space aliens to be here to present their agenda to humans to test humans of to whom to give their allegiance to become like the space aliens (who are human equivalents and can’t even travel into space anymore anyway, the reason they are training humans to do it for them), or to the Next Level.

The suicides took place over the course of three days.
Though the 39 dead members of the cult were found on Wednesday, March 26th, 1997, coroner’s reports showed that the suicides were far from simultaneous. The members killed themselves starting Sunday using a combination of Phenobarbital, alcohol and hydrocodone, probably consumed with apple sauce or pudding. The members then put plastic bags over their heads and suffocated to death, after which they were covered in shrouds. Applewhite was a late death, but not the last to die.

*** Sawyer’s comment:
There never was a report of their use of Hydrocodone.

“Labeled ‘The Routine,’ the document outlined a process by which a group of 15 people would kill themselves, assisted by eight other people,” CNN wrote. “Then a second group of 15 would die, also assisted by eight people. Given that 39 victims were found, that would have left a final group of nine.”

Part of the Heaven’s Gate dogma was that everything had to be precisely the same
“Everything was designed to be… an exact duplicate,” surviving member Michael Conyers later said. “You were not to come up with, ‘Well I’m going to make the pancakes this big.’ There was a mixture, a size, how long you cooked it one side, how much the burner was on, how many a person got, how the syrup was poured on it. Everything.” Conyers said that even male members shaved their faces a specific way.

**** Sawyer’s comment:

Everything wasn’t designed to be an exact duplicate but we did thrive on crew mindedness and it put some to the test whether they could conform like it would be in the military. There were lots of procedures on how to do things. We had recipes that Ti and Do wanted to see consistant good results. I don’t recall a procedure on how to pour the syrup on pancakes though we had an amount but one could forego having any syrup or at times uses jelly or just butter. Michael (Rthody) remembers whatever he had the most problems with. For me it was just a routine I didn’t find a problem with enjoying following. What’s wrong with having the burner on a certain setting to heat the griddle to the best temperature to best cook pancakes? I guess he wouldn’t be a very good chef if he didn’t have standards. But of course it was designed to weed out those who really weren’t fitting in as then the smallest things might become the straw that broke the camel’s back. Someone might want to ask Michael why/how he left. Do stimulated the second visit of families and when Michael came back he wanted to leave to be with his human family and then off he went. Had Do wanted to keep everyone in the group why would he and Ti have us visit families. It served as an innocent test of our resolve. That one of the many reasons I know all who stayed to their exit of their vehicles did so because they genuinely knew this was what they wanted to do regardless of whether humans would understand or condone their choice. They were quite in dependant minds compared to humans.

As I recall, Michael asked Do about how he shaved – in which direction he moved the blade. Before that we had no “procedure”. I guess he didn’t like Do’s answer. Had he not asked it would have remained an option. Ti and Do didn’t try to lay out all the options anything could be done. To the contrary they left many details up to us to work out and when we had problems or reached an impasse between students then it became a lesson opportunity as to how we would work out our differences between partners. Often that resulted in a procedure so it was settled but there were always many areas of difference.


This is a common tactic for cults – if a leader wants to convince members to do something as extreme as commit suicide, they has to replace their entire belief structure with the belief structure of the cult, a process called indoctrination.

“[Cults] say, ‘You have to break out of your Western mentality,” David Sullivan, a private investigator specializing in cult deprogramming, told Harper’s. “You’re too judgmental. You have to abandon your whole psychological-intellectual framework. Your obsessive materialism is blocking you from seeing the truth.'”

*** Sawyer’s comment:
So how many cults do we have that example for? How did Jim Jones get so many to commit suicide? Wasn’t it fear of having authorities destroy their way of life and it was made into a drill they repeated and didn’t know it wasn’t real poison they drank so that when they finally drank it, many under gunpoint and being threatened on the PA system they did it.

We talked about all ways to exit our vehicles. It wasn’t until 1994 that doing so by our own hand seemed like the way we might go and no one’s entire belief system as replaced, especially for those that joined in 1994 that hardly had a grasp on the groups beliefs.

This is the way governments get their citizens to go to war to kill others and think if they die it’s honorable. A typical cult technique except that’s the cult of Luciferian misinformation.


The Next Level was a place without gender, and that led to castration
Applewhite and other members underwent the procedure to help ensure they remained celibate. Applewhite, who had been fired as a music professor at the University of St. Thomas in 1970 after administrators learned he had sex with a male student, sought cures for his homosexual urges. He wanted to find a way to have “platonic relationship where he could develop his full potential without sexual entanglements,” said one reporter who infiltrated the group in 1975. Castration, Applewhite believed, could make that easier. Ultimately, the group instituted a strict “no sex, no human-level relationships, no socializing” rule.

Though decisions like this were always left up to the members, eight followers were castrated voluntarily, including Applewhite. “They couldn’t stop smiling and giggling,” former member DiAngelo told Newsweek. “They were excited about it.”

***Sawyer’s comment:

It is true that in the Next Level abodes, on spacecraft laboratories, members don’t have a gender and the physical bodies they wear don’t have a gender. They are from The Evolutionary Level Above Human and to become a Member meant they had to conquer/overcome all their human kingdom characteristics like gender, sexuality, accumulation of wealth, elevation of self (ego), addictions and mammalian relationships. But castration became an option that most did not choose to undergo as for some they didn’t have a significant challenge by that part of their vehicles hormonal system that stimulated a significant toward maintaining celibacy.

The castration procedure was not to “ensure celibacy” and that especially applies to the long term members including DO who had many years of successful overcoming of his vehicles sexual nature. Instead it was like a reward for their efforts to be rid of that battle that despite one’s self control over their vehicles urges, etc. the battle still raged even in ways hardly recognizable as related. For instance when one doesn’t control that addiction to the loss of energy/fluids and the various attention to thoughts and feelings, one’s capacity for “common sense” diminishes, according to Ti and Do. Also one is not as objective working with others if their vehicle is attracted or repulsed to another’s vehicle. Thurston, seen in the exit videos as TRSODY makes note of this and the relief he felt after the procedure. Someone who never experiences any significant celibacy of mind and body isn’t capable of understanding it from an experiential standpoint any more than certain alcoholics who may not even think of themselves as alcoholics don’t know how their judgement has been impaired.

There is a great deal to say about this and how the option came to be as I was a part of the first choices to be castrated and Do stopped me from proceeding on two occasions. For over a year DO wondered if allowing those students that were asking for the procedure (Srrody, Prkody and I mostly, DO told us), if he approved of it, by having it done, would reduce the effort needed to build our Mind muscle by working against those vehicular characteristics. Do also thought that the Next Level had designed human male vehicles to be easily castrated (neutered) compared to females who he didn’t give the option to because it was too invasive. (I never learned of that procedure).

It was always interesting to note how Jesus approved of castration for his disciples? In context here is what he said:

Matthew 19:12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother’s womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

It was also known that the Essene Jewish community that Jewish heirarchals disproved of also showed in the Dead Sea Scrolls that we read in the book Essene Christian Faith, their promotion of self stimulated castration.

There have been several versions of the story that Applewhite was fired for a relationship with a college student. It may be true but he was teaching in the University of St. Thomas so the student would not have been underage and when talking to the administrators one reporter only learned that he was fired for “personal reasons”. There is also only rumors that he sought professional help with his homosexuality and even if they were true I don’t know what is so terrible about that. About his relationships with a man, Do did tell the student body and wrote in the 88update that he had been living with a man and that he was not happy with his relationship because he sought someone who wanted a committed relationship. Robert Balch, who was not a reporter, but who did write about the group a lot was the one who did infiltrate the group in 1975 and made these few things into his treatise of why he eventually led the group to what humans call suicide so as is the case with this story in particular the same media reports end up being used over and over to build the same rumors and innuendo and hypothesis into facts – the way myth get’s started it seems.

The group didn’t ultimately institute, a strict “no sex, no human-level relationships, no socializing” rule. We had those rules from day one and all the rules came from TI and DO until TI exited her vehicle in 1985 and then came from DO alone.


Heaven’s Gate cult
Police photo showing a deceased member of the Heaven’s Gate cult. Nike discontinued the sneakers the members wore. STR New/Reuters

The cult went out for a last supper together.
Though Heaven’s Gate members were cut off from their families and friends, they were far from total recluses. Their final meal together was a big group dinner that took place at a chain that they frequented near their compound in Rancho Santa Fe, CA.

“And a week ago Friday [just before their suicides] — just a day or so before enacting their meticulously planned suicides — the cult went out for a last supper together at the Marie Callender’s restaurant in Carlsbad,” the BBC wrote.

“They all ordered the exact same thing,” a waiter recalled to the paper. “It was set up before they came in. They all had iced teas to drink. Dinner salads beforehand with tomato vinegar dressing. Turkey potpie for the entree. Cheesecake with blueberries on top for dessert. They seemed very nice, very friendly, very polite. No one seemed depressed at all, or anything like that.”

Two surviving members likely still operate the cult’s website.
One of the ways that Heaven’s Gate paid the bills was with a web design group called “Higher Source.” Their website is still online.

“Clients described Higher Source employees as diligent and professional,” the AP wrote. “They said the Web-site designers didn’t look particularly unusual for computer experts with a lot of work in the entertainment industry, with dark, collarless shirts and closely cropped hair.”

The pair most likely behind the Higher Source website are Mark and Sarah King according to Motherboard.

“The information must be available to mankind, in preparation for their return,” the page’s admins told Reddit’s blog. “We don’t know when that will be but those who are interested will find the information.”

*** Sawyer’s comment:
Mark and Sarah were instructed to leave the group in 1987 because they didn’t want to abide by the lesson step called, “I could be wrong” and they never returned so had nothing to do with the Higher Source Web Design Business. Do and Crew did stay in touch with them and in 1994 offered them to return to the class again but they denied but then Do offered them logistical types of tasks as they prepared to exit their vehicles though did not let on to Mark and Sarah what their plans were or that it was a serious consideration. I was still in the class and knew of the plans. Rio (Neody) had been a big part of the Higher Source Web design business. Jwnody as she said in her student exit video had been a big part of Higher Source as was Glnody.

I wrote a critique of the Motherboard article found here:

The Nikes the group wore have become a collector’s item.
When the Heaven’s Gate members were discovered, they were all wearing identical black-and-white Nike Decade sneakers – and the company soon discontinued the style, due to its macabre associations. Since then, the shoes have become a collector’s item. An unworn pair apparently discovered in a storage unit in Arizona is up for auction on eBay for the asking price of $6,660, bearing Applewhite’s face as part of its advertising.

Nike didn’t exactly appreciate the free advertising.

“We’ve heard all the jokes,” Nike rep Jim Small told Adweek in 1997. “The Heaven’s Gate incident was a tragedy. It had nothing to do with Nike.”

The surviving members agree. They say that the shoes were purchased in bulk because of their cost, not necessarily their style.

“They turned out to be a look that Do and the Class [adopted names for the cult leader and a member] liked,” they told Sole Collector in an email. “They were also able to get a good deal on them. It was a combination of factors that made the sale happen, not because of a particular model or brand.”

*** Sawyer’s comment:

“Class” wasn’t “a member”. It was short for “Classroom” the equivalent of student body or “church” in Ti and Do’s new generic non-religious terms that were more accurate now.


Critique of Huffington Post article “dying to go to heaven” that insinuates Heaven’s gate compares to suicide bombers of 9/11 etc. and how they should be stopped

March 28, 2017

To follow is my critique of this Huff Post article that is about the latest wild eyed pack of lies as almost could be. Here is the link to the article with my comments side by side to the text:

Dying To Go To Heaven: What The Heaven’s Gate Suicides Teach Us About Islamic Martyrdom

Michael Shermer, Contributor Publisher Skeptic magazine (, columnist Scientific American, Presidential Fellow Chapman University

It was 20 years ago this week, March 20-26, 1997, that 39 members of the Heaven’s Gate cult “graduated” from this life to ascend to the UFO mothership that they believed would take them to an extraterrestrial paradise. I’ll never forget it. I was on book tour for Why People Believe Weird Things, and neither I nor any of my peers who study belief systems had ever heard of the cult. It was hard to fathom. Now, as I look back 20 years later, I believe the mass suicide has a deeper lesson that goes far beyond the confines of New Age fringe cults, and has relevance to understanding the motivations of today’s suicide terrorists.

**** Sawyer’s comment:

First off, this is like comparing doctors who work for Doctors without borders to those who design biological weapons. There is zero comparison and that’s a distant comparison. It would be like comparing Ghandi or Martin Luther King Jr. to the leader of the KKK, even for motivation. Maybe it seems like a fair comparison for someone who has no concept of what is beyond the limited scientific view of where we as a human species came from and when and how.

It’s no secret that the motivation of suicide terrorists is most often vengence for others crimes against their people tied into hating their lives and the misery around them perpetrated largely by the west and mixed in with distorted belief systems that vary and no longer even resemble their founders teachings. Take Christians today. What do they DO and SAY that has much of anything to do with what Jesus taught and what they do get right, they assume applies to them, for the benefits though they ignore the requirements. Or they mystify everything so it can apply to whatever they want it to. Christians today are really disciples of Paul who hated and condemned Jesus followers and the disciples of Jesus were quite “wary” of, yet became the foundation of Catholicism commercialized and politcized and spiritualized ad infinitum.

I’m no expert on Islam but know enough that the same kind of distortion and dilution exists today and has for centuries just as the same kind of distortion is quite apparant in Judaism, today’s Rabbinic Judaism, separate from Orthodox that is even far afield from it’s core provided by Jehovah through Moses. And of course the same can be said of Hinduism and Buddhism with some sects more atuned to the anceit Veda’s and Upanishads than others who had secularized and/or religisized.

To try to make this case using Marshall and Bonnie as your guinea pigs is as shallow a low blow as one can make, even worse than using cutsey words to describe their so called “insanity” which today is the going rage in the internet mainstream journalism, which I can show lots of examples of.

Of couse there isn’t much guts left in most of the media that I have found so it’s par for the course of what has become a paid off enterprise to allow and even support this kind of journalism.

May little examples will follow:

But first, let’s revisit the story. Heaven’s Gate was founded in 1975 by Marshall Applewhite and Bonnie Nettles after they met in a psychiatric hospital. They fell in love and believed their pairing had been foretold by extraterrestrials.

*** Sawyers’s comment:
The article reports: “But first, let’s revisit the story. Heaven’s Gate was founded in 1975 [1] by Marshall Applewhite and Bonnie Nettles after they met in a psychiatric hospital [2]. They fell in love [3] and believed their pairing had been foretold by extraterrestrials.

(By the way Wikepedia is also full of innaccuracies that I have tried to offer to correct some of in years past but they don’t consider me authorized, though perhaps since I have published now they will hear me out a tiny bit more. My web site for my book is at: )

For a number of corrections I refer to the document “’88 Update – The UFO Two and Their Crew”, which was written by DO in October of 1988 that I witnessed him write from a farmhouse north of Dallas, Texas where we all lived then. I also witnessed him talking about a lot of it’s content before then with TI present at meetings that some of are recorded, which was before Ti’s vehicle died thus up to 1985) and if I had to I could find other former members to collaborate what I heard even includeing the current webmasters of their web site.

According to Wikepedia they do count, or at least give the appearance of value to this document without actually listing it in their references but listing other’s writings where they must say what DO said but often get wrong. I have actually helped one of the most, go to professors – Robert Balch on more than one occasion with accuracy to his writings. In fact Do even sent me to sit with him in 1997 on one such book project he was involved. I was also consulted by Benjamin Zeller on his book but as it goes with academics if they have an idea in their mind they are writing to play out, they will ignore anything that doesn’t substantiate that opinion so most, if not all of what I wrote to him was ignored.

So why have so many writers stay as far away from the 88 update as they could, to instead use conjecture based on rumors that grew to be treated as “facts”, or should I call them “alternative facts” – pure lies and misinformation? I believe I understand why but that’s not for this brief report. Here are three points in this first sentence and there are many more as this article could be used in journalism school to show what journalism can become – a purveyor of anything but the truth and even a stimulant of myth.

1) “Heaven’s Gate was founded in 1975…”, the name was founded in 1996. One can search the Heaven’s Gate web site for that name and won’t find it used in the documents that were written before then.

2) “after they met in a psychiatric hospital”

3) “they fell in love”

Here’s what Do wrote in 88update that I witnessed he and Ti referring to several times:

“In the early 1970’s, two members of the Kingdom of Heaven (or what some might call two aliens from space) incarnated into two unsuspecting humans in Houston, a registered nurse and a college music professor who were in their forties. The nurse and the professor hadn’t previously known each other and had completely separate lives. The registered nurse was happily married with four children, worked in the nursery of a local hospital [2 – what kind of psychiatric hospital has a “nursery?”], and enjoyed a small astrology practice. The music professor, a divorcee who had lived with a male friend for some years, was contentedly involved in cultural and academic activities.

For about a year before they met, their lives seemed to encounter severe upheaval and personal confusion, later recognized as the human body’s response to the entry of the minds from what “the two” referred to as the “Next Level,” or the physical level above human. About nine months after they first met, they left Houston because their lives, which were crumbling around them, made it impossible to concentrate on what was actually happening to them.

Most of their friends and associates thought the two of them had lost their minds or were being duped into a relationship by the other. The only relationship they shared, certainly having no physical attraction toward each other, was the compulsion to discover what had brought them together and what might be their purpose. They had little in common other than strong personal relationships with their Heavenly Father.” [3 – fell in love”?]

So where did the “psychiatric hospital” idea come in and where was it that they “fell in love” and no mention of “extraterrestrials” though I would give that last point some liberty. Here is yet another view as said by DO live on the video series he started in 1992. By the way I am introduced as Sawyer in the video and my face is shown as with Jwn his two “helpers” in the video:

Beyond Human — The Last Call – Session 1

10th paragraph:

In the early 70’s, for unknown reasons (and this is just my attempt to explain to you what occurred), for unknown reasons – things we could not understand – my life began to suddenly fall apart.  It had been a very stable life, an acceptable life, certainly one that was considered legitimate and had respect to it in the community, as did Ti’s life. And her life separately began to fall apart.  We did not know each other.  We’d never seen one another that we were aware of – had never met.  Then in the early 70’s, I think around ’72, we met just perchance while I was visiting a sick friend in a hospital where Ti was a nurse.[2 – met in hospital where Ti was a nurse that had a nursery] From that moment, my life changed – changed very significantly. I rebelled.  I didn’t want it to change, and yet I knew it had to change.  And the conflict that was in me was very great.

The same thing was happening with Ti.  She knew she had something to do with me.  I tried to reject that idea. Ti was confused for awhile and wondered, “Well, why do I recognize you, and you don’t recognize me”?  And even though I might have thought I didn’t recognize Ti, I knew that I couldn’t cut it off. And yet here we had separate lives, separate careers, families, involvements in the world, and all of a sudden, just because we met, something was causing us to have to become more involved in spite of our desire not to.  Not involved in a human way.  There was never a coming together in that we were bed partners or involved in a physical relationship. [3 – “fell in love?”] But there was something that compelled us to spend time together and listen to each other, and search together.”

I know reporters went to Houston to talk to people that knew them and no doubt one or more could have said they thought they were having an affair. I know that DO told us that they got a court order against Ti’s vehicles husband (as I don’t know if they had divorced yet by then) because he threated DO. So it was fertile ground for conjecture but that doesn’t mean they are facts.

What not believe what Do wrote in several documents at different times years apart and that I heard Ti talk about a decade or so earlier, to confirm as the most accurate account? They would still be considered evil cult leaders even then. What did they have to gain by making up that story. Especially in 1994, why would Do hide the truth from his dedicated 24+ students when they were going to go out on the road again after 17 years in seclusion to “recruit”, (that actually never was as other groups did so, which I provide evidence for)? We held meetings in Dallas, Houston, Addison and Austin that year and DO wasn’t traveling with any of the groups while they went out among the people to put up posters advertising the meetings and looking for free press coverage. I was even part of a multi group effort that did a big story for the Dallas Morning News then in which Ollody’s many paints were shown on television. We visited most every health food store and book store and campus to advertise our meetings. How unlikely would have it been to run into someone that knew of the story about Applewhite and Nettles from 1975. I don’t know if that happened. However in 1975 at Christmas time, having joined 3 months before then, I with my partner who Ti and Do had assigned me several months before then, were out on our own with no connection to a larger group or to Bo and Peep (the names they still used then), hitchhiked (because our car broke down) to Houston where Dandy actually knew some people who we stayed with for a night or two. While there, they had some people over and it just so happens one was a women who told us she knew Applewhite and that he had wandering hands, I think she said. I thought that was a sexual insinuation. I didn’t think she was making it up but nor did it disuade me or have me question what I was doing. I had been a rogue hippy vagabond musician for years before then, exploring a number of spiritual forms, to which I could never really feel one with, that is until I met Ti and Do and knew I had to give up my instruments and girlfriend and the house I was building in a startup commune in Oregon to follow them. My point is, how did they know what any of us heard about them, even when groups did meetings in 1975-6 in Austin, Brownsville, El Paso, Houston, Nashville, Lubbock and San Marcos? They could have started to tell their stories of how they met, which I only recall in the early 1980’s while living in houses and could have said things that could give a student a hard time believing because of what they heard. Why would they have risked making up a story when they were already hated by people all over the country even without that story and how would their story make it better for them anyway?

Common sense says that their story as told by Do is the most dependable one but seems to be the one most all the media outlets I’ve seen and that’s been many dozens since 1975 avoid like the plague. I can offer an explanation for this but most will have a hard time with it, but it doesn’t matter, the facts stand on their own.

Here is where so many reporters get their “facts”:
According to Applewhite’s writings, the two met in the psychiatric hospital where she worked during his stay there.[5] The two quickly became close friends.[6] He later recalled that he felt like he had known her for a long time and concluded that they had met in a past life.[7] She told him their meeting had been foretold to her by extraterrestrials, persuading him that he had a divine assignment.[8][9]

(7) Lalich 2004, pp. 44, 48.
(8) Balch & Taylor 2002, p. 210.
(9) Lalich 2004, p. 43.

Do only wrote about this in 88 update and spoke about it in Beyond Human – The Last Call video tape session 1 so perhaps these references refer to one of these documents as the video tapes were transcribed so are available in print.

In the 1980s and 1990s, they recruited several hundred followers, many of whom sold their possessions and lived in isolation, disconnected from their family and friends. They practiced living in dark rooms to simulate space travel and considered sex sinful, with six male members voluntarily undergoing castration.

*** Sawyer’s comment:
Wrong. There was zero “recruiting” as a lay person might see it during any of the 1980’s. I was there the entire time so I know this for a fact and can prove it. For 9 months in 1994 one could say they (we) recruited, though I assure you I can prove it wasn’t recuritment like in any other group. I was an “overseer” and I actually turned away two who were interested after the University of Chicago meeting.

Everyone who joined turned over any remaining possessions they had, not counting the clothing and toiletries and such. No one was searched and some did join with their marijuna and used it and when Ti and Do found out about it dismissed them from the group if they didn’t show signs of willing to drop those habits as with sex.

We never practiced living in Dark rooms. I’d really like to know who said these things. If it was an x-classmate I can prove they were wrong  as I know some former members who are actually not believers anymore but who I am good friends with none the same and who were in the group almost as long as I was.


In early 1997, the appearance of Comet Hale-Bopp foretold to them that the coming of the UFO mothership, said to be hiding behind the comet, that would take them to what they called The Evolutionary Level Above Human (TELAH), where they would live forever in unadulterated ecstasy. This story was reinforced by Art Bell, on his popular late-night radio show Coast to Coast AM, a purveyor of conspiratorial “alternative facts” (before they were known as such). Compared to eternal bliss in this extraterrestrial heaven, life on Earth was but a temporary stage in evolution. The transition was made in three waves that week, as members drank a deadly cocktail of phenobarbital, applesauce, and vodka; also pulling plastic bags over their heads for self-asphyxiation. Authorities found them all dead in a San Diego home on March 26. The event became a media circus.

All 39 deceased cult members were dressed in identical black shirts and sweat pants, wearing brand new black-and-white Nike Decades athletic shoes, and armband patches reading ‘Heaven’s Gate Away Team’.

Twenty years later, the beliefs of the Heaven’s Gate cult members do seem absurdly ridiculous to most of us, grounded as they were in the New Age science fiction pop-culture. But at their core, how different are the motivations of the Heaven’s Gate members from those today who believe that a heavenly paradise awaits them through a dramatic suicide?

*** Sawyer’s comment:
Suicide as humans define it, different than how Jesus would define it and not the way Do and Crew defined it in their document, “Our Position Against Suicide”.

I’m not sure who this author is referring to by “…motivations of the Heaven’s Gate members from those today…” But Do actually left the “gate open” to exiting the say way they did. I’m actually talked several out of taking that kind of measure as that can also be used by the Lower Forces to further smear the truth, because DO and Crew also spoke about how humans NEED their human vehicles to learn lessons through as the only way to grow towards graduation. Thus the primary ones that option to exit in that way would have most applied to are those that had been in the classroom before, like myself. However the webmasters of the web site, were so freaked out from all the negative publicity they got when the group exited, and that they didn’t have a clue was in the works because they weren’t in the class since 1987 or they would have heard lots of talk about it, as I did in 1994, did tell people “the gate is closed” which was the start of mutating the truth into misinformation. The truth is always hard to bear and especially for those who never sought it out much and who become entrenched in this or that “path” as their mission. Those paths are not wrong but they at best can lead to the top of the human mountain while to get off that mountain, as Ti and Do put it requires adhering to the teachings/direction and example from Members of the Level Above Human who exist off that human mountain.


Perhaps the closest example in the minds of most Americans is Islamic suicide terrorism, a cult-like belief system with far deadlier implications than Heaven’s Gate. Ever since 19 Muslim men chose to end their life in the 9/11 terrorist attacks, Westerners have wondered aloud how a belief in heavenly paradise can drive such extreme actions.

The suicide attackers involved in 9/11 attack on the World Trade Center believed they were entering a heavenly afterlife.

*** Sawyer’s comment:
There are millions even billions who think when they die they go to some heavenly afterlife. The word heaven also means sky and the existence in spirit form can seem like LIFE but it’s nothing of the sort which can be shown by Jesus teachings.

Dying doesn’t necessarily get anyone anywhere no matter what they believe, though Ti and Do taught that they get some semblence of what they believed they would get upon death, but it doesn’t mean it is what they think it is, because one must know what it is before they die and that can only be understood when Older Members are incarnate to lift the veil and shoot down the distortions. That is actually allowed to happen so it’s only those who press to understand that truth that find it as the Next Level doesn’t need any new members. They don’t die and have plenty of work setting up gardens for future opportunities that they then “seed” and nurture to a harvest (graduation) of souls while saving others for future opportunities which is where the idea of reincarnation comes from, except that too was distorted into some automatic process, etc.

Indeed, the emergence of Islamic martyrdom through suicide bombings seems to have remarkably cult-like traits. It was Muhammad himself (as cited in the Qur’an) who ruled that as a general principle any Muslim soldier who died while attacking an infidel would go straight to paradise. But only in recent times has this statement has been used as a motivator for the style of suicide bombings practiced by the leaders of al Qaeda and ISIS.

Most Muslim scholars agree that the Qur’an forbids suicide, yet according to the Chicago Project on Security and Terrorism, 224 of 300 suicide terror attacks from 1980 to 2003 involved Islamist groups. Statistics suggest the frequency of terror-based suicide has increased dramatically, from less than one incident per month in the decades prior to 9/11, to more than one per day in 2015.
Mohamed Atta served as the hijacker-pilot of American Airlines Flight 11, crashing the plane into the North Tower of the World Trade Center as part of the coordinated 9/11 attacks.

Consider the final words of the 9/11 hijacker Mohammed Atta (above), penned in a suicide note found in his luggage that he left in his rental car before flying into the World Trade Center building: “Know that the gardens of paradise are waiting for you in all their beauty, and the women of paradise are waiting, calling out, ‘Come hither, friend of God.’”

*** Sawyer’s comment:

So full of distortions. According to Ti and Do the only ones that came from the Next Level incarnate were Adam, Enoch, Moses, Elijah and Jesus, before their arrival. However they weren’t counting student tasks like perhaps portrayed as Old Testament prophets. DO liked that some in the Islamic countries still made pleasing God part of their everyday attitude. And he liked that they were at least trying to be more modest in dress.

That’s all I know about what they said about Islam, but the general viewpoint of who was teaching things from the Next Level Mind had to do with primarily who was teachings “separating from the human kingdom” – breaking ties and roots to their genetic heritage, not being satisfied with human competitions and building of self even when they have the opportunity. One example was with the Buddhist premise of “renunciation of the world” that DO thought was a sign that at least one Buddha had been part of a Next Level task in that culture.

The true kingdom of God, Kingdom in the literal Heavens has no “women” nor men, as they have outgrown male and female mammalianism. Their physical bodies are grown on a vine to adulthood when they are assigned one for whatever their tasks are that vehicle might have been best suited to perform.

There are no “gardens” in the Next Level. The term “garden” had to do with the way the earth was the Next Level’s experimental hothouse to grow both human vehicles on and to grow spirit and souls within those human vehicles so they could one day after generations graduate out of the human evolutionary kingdom. There is actually nothing spiritual about it except in how the process is one of “mind” over “matter” and it’s swapping out the Luciferian space alien fallen angel “misinformation mind” that saturates all humans with “Next Level (Holy) true, real Mind – Mind that is as a program that by adhering to and applying leads to Next Level Membership.

Perhaps out of a desire to not criticize other religions, many Western commentators and politicians blame Islamic terrorism on economic or political pressures. These factors may certainly come into play – yet we cannot escape the fact that suicide bombers often believe they are going to heaven for their deadly actions.

Perhaps it is time for anti-terror groups to cease thinking of Islamic suicide bombings as a legitimate act of war, and instead see the similarities with suicides cults like Heaven’s Gate. Consider the 2016 article, “Why We Hate You, Why We Fight You”, in the ISIS publication Dabiq. The unnamed author drills home the point that beyond any secondary political motives is the fact that, “What’s equally if not more important to understand is that we fight you, not simply to punish and deter you, but to bring you true freedom in this life and salvation in the Hereafter.”

*** Sawyer’s comment:
Except for the HUGE fact that is a MAJOR difference and is like 180 degrees apart – in that the Heaven’s Gate cult members did not harm anyone else but their own human vehicles. The idea that humans don’t have the right to end their own human lives is not found in any of the Judaic or Christian core teachings from Moses and Jesus. And perhaps it’s not really found in the Quran either as otherwise why the debate. Of course that’s part of the disinformation to disguise the truth, the facts to bring question to them, slant them in some way for whowevers agenda and there is a lot to say about why that happens that I won’t go into here.

The Hereafter. Would the leaders of al Qaeda and ISIS be able to recruit as many people into their cult of death without the promise of a glorious afterlife? Surely not.

The Heaven’s Gate cult relied heavily on references to New Age science fiction.

*** Sawyers comment:
To the contrary, how many in the military of most every country feel they are honored by dying for their country and thought to be countrymen. All it took to enlist many of them was the idea and the guaranteed pay check and benefits and whatever programming they had that it was honorable. Thousands killed and murdered others in Vietnam, Iraq and Afganistan on that basis or in the case of Vietnam because othewise they would have been imprisoned as a traitor, though if your family had the money could get their offspring out of going to the fronts. Not to justify the violence of any of these, but when one is rebelling from a foreign invader who stands on the higher moral ground really, though of course the highest moral grounds would be those like Martin Luther King and Ghandi would like Jesus were willing to take the violence against them without delivering it back.

Whatever other motives Islamic terrorists may have for their actions, beneath them all is the same supernatural belief held by the Heaven’s Gate cult members: that they’re not really committing suicide, but simply transitioning to a better place where they will be rewarded for their actions. And just like most of us would intervene with friends or family who joined a suicide cult like Heaven’s Gate, Muslim moderates and reformers, along with religious people of all faiths, must debunk the false fact that heaven awaits those who kill themselves, especially if they take the lives of others.

*** Sawyer’s comment:

The only way I can further comment to this view is to say something Do said and that is – in all depends on whose “heaven” one is aiming for. Lots of people talk about heaven as if it’s one location while those that know their scriptures will know that there was one level of heaven that was thought of as “Abrahams Bosom” and that when Jesus said to the thief on the cross that this day (for his belief) he would be with him in “paradise” that he meant that level of heaven where his spirit or soul would be saved to for future opportunities. To others being outside the body means one is in heaven and yet that is possible but that heaven is referred to as “death” or the “spirit world” that is not automatically arriving any anything better unless the Next Level chooses to take that spirit or soul to someplace better from there.

For instance Lucifers “heaven” is called “hell” because the true meaning of hell is separation from God permenantly – no option to change because of one’s own choices not to take advanage of many option when they were provided to where one loses the perspective that there is anyplace else to go.  But the Luciferian fallen angel space aliens are desperate at this time to get off the planet as they have it from rumors and past experience that if they don’t get off the planet they will be forced underground again and even totally annialated, body and soul in hell – “lake of fire” when the Next Level is finished offering humanity this last chance to recognize their Representatives who last used the names Ti and Do.

Michael Shermer is the Publisher of Skeptic magazine, a monthly columnist for Scientific American, and a Presidential Fellow at Chapman University. His next book is Heavens on Earth: The Scientific Quest for Immortality, the Afterlife, and Utopia. Follow him on Twitter @MichaelShermer.


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Sawyer’s Critique of Ben Zeller’s article entitled: What the Heaven’s Gate suicides say about American culture

March 25, 2017

Below is Sawyer’s critique of another article about Heaven’s Gate. The article link is at the end but here is the text with my comments embedded:

What the Heaven’s Gate suicides say about American culture

Ben Zeller, Lake Forest College Published 4:53 am, Friday, March 24, 2017

Ben Zeller, Lake Forest College

(THE CONVERSATION) Heaven’s Gate – also known as the “UFO cult” – burst into American consciousness 20 years ago this month, when, on March 26, 1997, law enforcement discovered 39 decomposing bodies in a San Diego, California mansion.

Each detail that emerged from the scene stunned a rapt public: Adherents had committed suicide in waves on March 22 and 23, ingesting a lethal mix of barbiturates and alcohol; they lay under purple shrouds, with five-dollar bills and rolls of quarters in their pockets; all wore simple dark uniforms and Nike tennis shoes.

sawyer’s comment:

“rolls of quarters” – that’s the first time I ever heard that. It was generally $5 and quarters that was first reported though I don’t know if every member had that combo. I reported to media in 1997 that I thought it had to do with our routine to sign out $5 whenever we went out of craft (house) on a task and then signed it in when we got back. It was for minor emergencies or if we were doing an “out of craft task” (job in human world) that extended past our 3rd Experiment (dinner time) as some were computer technicians that had varied hours at times so they’d have a little something to get a sandwich or something to tide them over. Before it was $5 in the 1990’s it was quarters for use in a pay phone in the 1980’s. I am sure it wasn’t more than 4 quarters or less than 2. Then some years after 1997 I heard a report that said it was $5.75 and I related it to Mark Twain’s fare for boarding the tail of a comet to go to heaven – like a dual service joke and practicality of having a tiny amount of money in case Ti decided to take their vehicles with them, heal them of their drug induced vehicular death and use them for some task someplace else. I believed this was also the reason for each to have a travel bag packed with a change of clothes as they left no stone un-turned. Could some have had rolls of quarters? Of course. But I wonder what was in the final report. It’s not important anymore but it just adds to the confusion of the facts to see it constantly reported differently.

Bizarre as these details may seem, if you actually look at the group’s beliefs and history, Heaven’s Gate has far more in common with American culture than you might expect.

In my book on Heaven’s Gate, I argue that the group drew from broad trends in American culture – religiosity, apocalyptic thinking and an interest in fusing science and religion.

But one theme has become even more evident since I wrote the book. The group’s embrace of conspiratorial thinking reflects a culture of conspiracy that has long existed in the margins of society – and has re-emerged at the center of American life.

At the time of the suicides, Heaven’s Gate had been in existence for over two decades.

Sawyers comment:

The Name Heaven’s Gate wasn’t used until 1996. We used  many other names before that.


It was founded in 1972 when two Texans, Bonnie Lu Nettles and Marshall Herff Applewhite, bonded over shared interests in alternative spiritual exploration, astrology and biblical prophecy. They came to believe that the Bible foretold an extraterrestrial rapture wherein some individuals would be saved from life on this planet and journey to what they called the “Next Level,” a physical realm in outer space where they would live as an immortal, perfected species of space aliens. They gained their first significant attention and converts in 1975 among alternative spiritual seekers in California and Oregon.

sawyers comment:

In 88update Do says that when He and Ti met they had nothing in common but a strong love for their Heavenly Father and a sense of having something to do together so they didn’t bond over shared interests.

They never spoke in terms of a “rapture” until the 1990’s that I recall as we had no bible kinds of study before then and with TI. Then Rapture meant – leaving all behind to follow eith the Older members literally as Jesus disciples did.

“saved from life on this planet” is to me a skewed way of saying what was more the case of “graduated from the Human kingdom” – and “evolutionary step” that amounted to being saved from “death on the planet” the fate of all life forms on earth, which is also aligned with what Jesus taught.

The latest trend in these articles and book authors is to classify them as “space aliens” which is part of the Luciferian Space Alien fallen Angel misinformation, rather than distinguish them as Above Space Aliens, Beyond Human and space Aliens, Evolutionarily more advanced than space aliens as “human equivalents” and DO said that the space aliens were SOULS who propagated hybrid physical bodies and were no longer allowed to circulate very far into space now and that there were no good and bad space aliens. They were all enemies of the Next Level though some had more consciousness of the Next Level Above Human than others and were also in competition with one another over the “spoils of the planet”. See USA Today Info Ad published on May 27th 1993.

Nettles and Applewhite drew from Christian sources, particularly prophetic and apocalyptic material. They were also inspired by the New Age movement, which emphasized meditation, diet and the channeling of spiritual beings. Like many religious people, members of Heaven’s Gate sought salvation from what they considered a corrupt world.

***** sawyers comment:
To say they were inspired by the New Age movement is misleading. The author should just read 88update for Do’s words on the subject if accuracy is most important anymore.

After Nettles died of cancer in 1985, the group’s adherents increasingly rejected their earlier belief in what they called biological metamorphosis, wherein their human bodies would chemically transform into extraterrestrial forms. Instead, they now envisioned abandoning their human bodies on Earth and transferring their consciousnesses – through (unspecified) technological-spiritual means – into new extraterrestrial “Next Level bodies.” (This is roughly analogous to reincarnation.)

**** sawyers comment:

“group’s adherents” who left, did so for any number of reasons and I learned what their reasons were because some of them sought to return and explained why. For example Dymody, Wndody, Rkkody, Trsody, Flxody and some never returned who gave interviews – Shldody, Jssody – who I believe left because the pickup didn’t transpire when Ti and Do first indicated it would (after 5 years they regretted saying as they never knew but kept getting pressed for the answer, though that didn’t phase their core believers like myself who never cared about being picked up by a UFO to begin with.

But to say they rejected “biological metamorphosis” I doubt was on anyone’s mind as we hardly understood what that entailed anyway until the mid 1990’s and even then it wasn’t until years later after I left them that I realized what they were referring to. The Soul was a “seed” and was physical and had a biological interface inside the human container where it could grow. Upon completion it would be equivalent to when Jesus was transformed on the Transfiguration mount, when Do felt he was ready to lay that body down to heal it in 3 1/2 days as Ti agreed was a time frame for such healing to occur.

Eventually, some members came to believe that they actually were space aliens – that they’d taken on human forms to learn about life on our planet – though this belief appears to have not been universally shared.

**** Sawyers comment:
Who said this? It wasn’t members who stayed in the classroom to their departure I can assure you but the idea probably did come from space aliens into some minds.

It may come as a surprise that, until the suicides, Heaven’s Gate attracted little outside attention.

Sawyers comment:

Nor did they want outside attention which is why when Ti stopped the harvest (first wave) in 1976 they went into seclusion for about 17 years as they didn’t want any further attention. When they wanted attention they got it big time – still talking about it 20 years later with new believers to degrees all the time.

They didn’t face government persecution, angry ex-members or professional anti-cultists eager to destroy them – all of which dogged other new and alternative religions like the Peoples Temple (the group behind the Jonestown massacre) and the Branch Davidians (the targets of the Waco siege).

So what drove Heaven’s Gate to consider collective suicide?

In the final years of the group’s existence, members came to believe in an elaborate conspiracy that leading governmental, religious and economic figures had colluded with a group of demonic extraterrestrials called “the Luciferians.” According to Heaven’s Gate members, these evil forces were all working in concert to cover up the existence of UFOs, and specifically a UFO “companion” that trailed the Hale-Bopp comet, which came closest to Earth on March 22, the day the suicides began.

*** Sawyer’s comment:

We began our study of the UFO phenomena in earnest in 1987 while living on Lost Angel road up Boulder Canyon in Colorado when Do brought in copies of “UFO Crash at Aztec” and in particular made parts of the appendix and the autopsy reports required reading and the rest optional. Before then we had a few books about Roswell and Admiral Byrd’s hollow earth, if I recall correctly, but never had them as required reading and never had a discussions about them which can be seen in the audio tape records.

ALL space aliens were “demonic” – not the way they want to be labeled for public consumption of their agenda of being human saviors.

The sort of conspiratorial thinking that Heaven’s Gate adopted was nothing new. Their belief in government conspiracies and UFOs could be traced back to popular responses to the first “flying saucer” sightings and the crash of an unknown object in Roswell, New Mexico, in 1947.

Religious studies scholar Joseph Laycock has written about how some aspects of the emerging UFO subculture blended scientific and supernaturalist theories, bringing together religion and conspiratorial thinking. Likewise, historian David G. Robertson has documented how UFO conspiracy theories eventually merged with New Age religious thinking to create what he calls “UFO millennial conspiracism.” Heaven’s Gate was part of those trends.

While Heaven’s Gate emerged from ufological culture, they also engaged in a long and storied pattern of conspiratorial thinking by American religious and political movements, a relationship historian Richard J. Hofstadter explored in his famous 1964 essay on the “paranoid style of American politics.”

In the 19th century, this relationship was especially pronounced in a strand of American Protestantism that envisioned an array of nefarious agents attempting to wrest American culture from the values – and control – of white, English Protestants. They initially targeted (sometimes violently) Catholic immigrants – who were neither Protestant nor English – and justified their actions with a blend of nativism and conspiratorial thinking.

And it was this sort of conspiratorial thinking that suffused American political movements, whether it was McCarthyism or the anti-Masonic movement. Hofstadter wrote that proponents of such ideas often felt “dispossessed,” that the country had been “taken away from their kind.”

Today, many fear that external agents, from Muslims to illegal immigrants, have eroded core American “Judeo-Christian” values. Perhaps as a result, we’re now witnessing rising nativism, anti-Semitism and Islamophobia.

Heaven’s Gate also embraced what historian Michael Barkun calls a “culture of conspiracy,” which divides the world between evil forces secretly conspiring among one another, true believers aware of the conspiracies and the mindless masses who operate without awareness of the truth.

**** Sawyer’s comment:

Ti and Do said the Next Level had a “conspiracy” – a “need to know” policy and one of maintaining “secrecy”. This can be seen in the way the Prophet Daniel was told to “shut up the meaning of the vision” and to how John the Revelation writer was told the same thing in chapter 10, UNTIL the time of the end in Daniel’s case and in John’s until the 7th Trumpet soundings. That seventh trumpet sounding as been in progress since at least 2008 when National Geographic Magazine’s “Final Report: Heaven’s Gate” aired a documentary that posed the question in the byline and in the body of the document, via the words of Sawyer (as I had asked them to do, a miracle to have happen (because I think the Next Level wanted it to occur), “Could Heaven’s Gate have been the Second Coming?” (paraphrased) that millions would have heard – the function of a trumpet sounding of information that was to occur after the TWO and Crew had exited their incarnations.

While Barkun focuses on the religious and cultural margins, today the same elements are arguably at work in American political discourse, whether it’s talk of secret government wiretaps, a deep state, or cover-ups within the scientific community on topics ranging from vaccines to climate change.

The adherents of Heaven’s Gate wouldn’t probably be drawn to these various political conspiracies, though they shared the belief that powerful forces colluded behind the scenes to hide the truth. In order to support their claims of the existence of extraterrestrials and UFO visitations, they embraced this conspiratorial logic.

Twenty years ago, people laughed off the conspiracy theories that consumed the group and eventual led them to “opt out” of the planet and commit suicide.

**** Sawyers comment

The conspiracies theories that abounded in the 1990’s stemming from the previous decades amounted to maybe 1% of content of the groups consideration so hardly could be said to have “consumed the group” and certainly had nothing to do with their “opt out” “suicides”. Watch the students exit videos to see what over 30 students said about their exit. Why isn’t that proof of their mindset. They were leaving because they had bonded with their Older Member, and had grown to know they were not those bodies and because most of all they loved Do wanted to follow him, be with him after their exit to take up their next tasks to have graduated their human lesson plan. Yes they saw the world as the hideous place it really is, where even most Christians are, know it or not, anti-Jesus teachings while in condemnation of what they don’t want to understand as misinformation is the rule rather than the exception.

But what happens when political leaders embrace a similar logic?

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Sawyer’s Critique of new San Diego Union Tribune Article about Heaven’s Gate that draws from a Heaven’s Gate Webmaster’s Email Interview

March 20, 2017

To follow is an article written for the San Diego Union Tribune that I critiqued for accuracy in my comments below labeled as from Sawyer:

20 years later, Heaven’s Gate lives on — via internet, scholarly debates by
(On March 26, 1997, 39 bodies were discovered in a Rancho Santa Fe mansion after a mass suicide)

Text of article above:

The jokes started right away, even though 39 people had died. Heaven’s Gate felt ripe for ridicule.

It happened 20 years ago this month. In a Rancho Santa Fe mansion, Marshall Applewhite, a preacher’s son and former seminarian who had fashioned a religion that merged evangelical Christianity with New Age science fiction, led his followers in a ritualistic “exit” of their human shells. They were convinced they would literally ascend to a better world via a spaceship riding behind the Hale-Bopp comet.

Sawyer’s comment:

(I’m going to use the names Ti and Do throughout though it wasn’t until 1977 that they took the names Ti and Do.)

– Do told us that he attended seminary briefly but dropped out soon thereafter because their curriculum materials were too restrictive.
– Saying they “fashioned a religion…” is not at all accurate to how they came to believe and talk about what they feel they came to know though I can see how people think of it that way. They didn’t “fashion” anything. Soon after meething they both felt they had something to do together but having nothing in common but a love for their Heavenly Father didn’t know what they were to do together. So they explored by opening up two little centers where they explored a number of belief systems. They felt forced to leave Houston because family and friends didn’t approve of their spending so much time together thinking they were having an affair. So after threats were made against Do by Ti’s x-husband (though I don’t know exactly when she divorsed her husband) so they had to get a court order against his coming too close to Do, they finally felt like they needed to leave the Houston area.

However, still not sure about what they were to do together they want to a farmhouse in Boerne, Texas and spent less than 6 weeks there and were both stuggling with the receipt of information. They would both be doing different things in different areas and have thoughts and then would come together to talk about ideas and find they were having the same ideas. That farmhouse is where Ti began to write a book that was never finished and I have in my possession that is entitled, “I can’t believe that but you must”.

In these two chapters Ti wrote that going to heaven was a process of burning out the flames of passion to put all your energy into becoming a “Christ” and how Jesus didn’t do it for us, he showed us how but instructed that each person who wanted to go in that direction must take on the same “process” of becoming a Christ. She wrote that the flames of passion didn’t matter if they came from playing a rough football game or played out in the back seat of a car. She also proposed the idea that people might want to consider how they would react if the return of the One who was incarnate in the vehicle named Jesus was a man from Texas…insinuating that as Do which she later said that he, the Soul from the Next Level Above Human was the same Soul who performed the incarnate tasks as Adam, Enoch, Moses, Elijah as well. They said in Boerne it was very difficult adjusting to these thoughts just months after leaving their family and careers and lifestyles behind. It was in Boerne that they both came to know that they (their souls) had come from “outer space” – the literal heavens and were here on earth to bring “updates to the bible” and to “fulfill prophecy” though they didn’t know what all the updates would be nor what prophecy they would fulfill.

But with that information they left Boerne and began traveling doign odd jobs for sustenence and visiting with preachers and studying everything they could find that might indicate what prophecy they were to fulfill. Some months later in Gold Beach, Oregon they were camping  on the Rogue River, painting rocks to sell to tourists that they came upon the Two Witnesses prophecy in the Book of Revelation. They didn’t like the idea of being the return of biblical figures as they always were sickened by people who would say they were Cleopatra – how many Cleopatra’s can there be they would wonder. Then in their travels the ran into two others who claimed to be the Two Witnesses and after that didn’t care whether they were or not. In other words they knew what they were to “speak about” (prophesy) that they didn’t get from reading the Revelation or from study of the life of Jesus.

So I would say their coming into believing certain things was a type of evolution. It was about a year later that they wrote their first statement that was sent to new age centers and meditation groups that stimulated some inviting them to come speak to them that turned into having followers that were not all that welcomed by them but they deceided they needed to go with.

There was only a very short time of what could be seen as “evangelism” from around August of 1975 to the spring of 1976 and then for a second time from January of 1994 to August of 1994. In between they were living in the wilderness in Wyoming and Texas and then in houses in the southwest area of the U.S.

All along they would share things with us and say, “this works for now”. They always said they were only allowed to be a step ahead of the student body with the lesson plan. They didn’t teach out of the bible at all though in the 1990’s we began to do some bible study as we prepared to go public for the second time but this time as “who we are” the return of the One who was Jesus and his students as Jesus said would occur.

They donned matching black track suits with customized patches identifying themselves as the “Heaven’s Gate Away Team.” They slipped on brand new black Nike shoes. They packed duffel bags.

Then they ingested barbiturates swirled into applesauce or pudding, chased it down with vodka, tied plastic bags around their heads, climbed into bunk beds and died. They went in three waves over several days, so that those still earthbound could tidy up after those who had just left, draping purple shrouds atop the bodies.

Before their departures, group members filmed themselves making statements that explained why they believed what they believed and why they were happy about the opportunity to escape the impending Armageddon and move to what they called the “Level Above Human.”

Sawyer’s comment:

I’ll have to revisit the exit tapes the students made but I know that most said nothing about escaping Armageddon. We were never a Christian group or religious or spiritual in the ways one normally thinks of those terms. The materials that were brought to the current civilization via religions were seen as “records” and were interesting at times to examine, but it was totally unlike in many groups where people walk around saying Praise the Lord this and that. We didn’t use religious terms except our attempts to interface with those who were most comforable with that terminology, like through various writing projects we had. We had long recognized that “religions were the number one killer of souls”. Religious terminology was mostly thought of as less accurate to the “generic” terms Ti and Do spoke in though to interface with others used both at times. Most of the exit tapes were expressing their plutonic love for Do.

They didn’t refer to it as suicide. They called it graduation. To them, those who stayed behind were the ones killing themselves.

Sawyer’s comment:

Here is their document about their choices. They can still apply to those who remain but show their thinking on the subject and it was written in 1996 I believe:


We know that it is only while we are in these physical vehicles (bodies) that we can learn the lessons needed to complete our own individual transition, as well as to complete our task of offering the Kingdom of Heaven to this civilization one last time. We take good care of our vehicles so they can function well for us in this task, and we try to protect them from any harm.

We fully desire, expect, and look forward to boarding a spacecraft from the Next Level very soon (in our physical bodies). There is no doubt in our mind that our being “picked up” is inevitable in the very near future. But what happens between now and then is the big question. We are keenly aware of several possibilities.

It could happen that before that spacecraft comes, one or more of us could lose our physical vehicles (bodies) due to “recall,” accident, or at the hands of some irate individual. We do not anticipate this, but it is possible. Another possibility is that, because of the position we take in our information, we could find so much disfavor with the powers that control this world that there could be attempts to incarcerate us or to subject us to some sort of psychological or physical torture (such as occurred at both Ruby Ridge and Waco).

It has always been our way to examine all possibilities, and be mentally prepared for whatever may come our way. For example, consider what happened at Masada around 73 A.D. A devout Jewish sect, after holding out against a siege by the Romans, to the best of their ability, and seeing that the murder, rape, and torture of their community was inevitable, determined that it was permissible for them to evacuate their bodies by a more dignified, and less agonizing method. We have thoroughly discussed this topic (of willful exit of the body under such conditions), and have mentally prepared ourselves for this possibility (as can be seen in a few of our statements). However, this act certainly does not need serious consideration at this time, and hopefully will not in the future.

The true meaning of “suicide” is to turn against the Next Level when it is being offered. In these last days, we are focused on two primary tasks: one – of making a last attempt at telling the truth about how the Next Level may be entered (our last effort at offering to individuals of this civilization the way to avoid “suicide”); and two – taking advantage of the rare opportunity we have each day – to work individually on our personal overcoming and change, in preparation for entering the Kingdom of Heaven.

Copies of the goodbye tapes were sent to former members, including one who drove down from Los Angeles, went into the 9,000-square-foot, two-story mansion and saw all the corpses. He called 911. And soon enough the whole world began hearing about Heaven’s Gate.

That’s when the jokes started. One website riffed on Nike’s slogan: “Just Did It.” Another spoofed the cult members who ran a software company: “We kill ourselves working for you!” Late-night TV host David Letterman delivered one of his Top Ten lists, “Signs you are in a bad cult.” (One of the signs: “Cult website is called”) “Saturday Night Live” did a skit.

When all the laughter faded, people moved on to other stories, got on with their lives. The mansion was razed, the name of the street where it sat changed to discourage looky-loos, and Heaven’s Gate settled into its place as a bizarre footnote in San Diego County history.

For sociologists and religious studies scholars, though, Heaven’s Gate remains in orbit. They continue to evaluate and write about the group’s foundations, arguing whether it was fundamentally Christian or New Age, trying to put it in context with America’s long history of spiritual yearning. They debate whether members were brainwashed into joining and staying. They discuss the timing of the suicides.

Sawyer’s comment:

As Professor Rob Balch wrote many times, there was no evidence of brainwashing. People at public meetings were turned away. I know as I was a group overseer for the 1994 meeting we put on at the U. of Chicago where two students said they were ready. When I told them we were out of money and were asking restaurants and preachers for help with food that sometimes would be at a fast food place, becaues they were strict vegan’s I discouraged them if that was going to be a problem for them. My partner overseer at the time thought I might have been too quick to disuade them from joining us and she checked with Do on the cell phone each group had and Do never indicated I did anything wrong by disuading them from joining.

However it was no secret that the task was one of brainwashing but it was brainwashing self with what Ti and Do instructed. For instance the procedure was to shut off and/or block, “put up a blank card” to thoughts or images of sensuality. There was no mechanism to monitor what people were allowing or not if they were not honest so in that case that human behaviour was not being “washed out of one’s consciousness”. This is actually what Jesus taught that he attached a little ritual to called “baptism” that became removed from it’s reason and purpose for.

When I joined I went to a meeting and Ti and Do sat in chairs on a stage and spoke softely but directly about what they were presenting. There was no prancing about the stage or raising of the voice or threats or guilt trips. What they said either spoke to the person – made sense – was something they felt was what they were looking for, though didn’t necessarily know it at that time. Then they said, there were some students in the audience who would answer the questions. For me I had no questions. I knew this was what I wanted to do. It would have looked like some force took me over and that could be said to be the returning Soul trying to take over my vehicle to finish it’s overcoming through that I as the vehicle was cooperating with. But it’s not like I was a naive puppy. I moved away from my family nest when I was 19 to live deep in the canadian rockies. I was deported and spent time with Jesus freaks who I often debated with. I was approached by many groups – the Sufi’s and Sri Chin Moy and I was reading the Bhagavad Gita and Parmahansa Yogananda and engaging several times a week in meditation I never really felt clicked with me. I had been to washington D.C. to protest against the vietnam war. I had been a pot and acid user but I quit. I was a slightly working musician and I had hitchhiked north America from coast to coast several times, had a lot of jobs, flunked out of college because they had nothing I wanted to learn and I was upset with the killings in kent state and just wanted to do my thing. Anyway, I wasn’t someone joining things willy nilly and following any status quo even in terms of religion and new age spirituality. I did believe Jesus was someone very special but was not a Christian though raised a Catholic. Most of the other students that I knew about had about the same kind of equivilent story, often minus the drugs and some with career successes.

So the brainwashing explanation was pulling at straws for an answer to what motivated these people though if one was a good student then they did wash their own brains, but it’s not like that took them over so they couldn’t know the difference. We continued to deal with doubts and desires and that’s why many left. It was considered failing to leave but it wasn’t harped on. In fact it was never spoken of that I recall. Ti and Do never held a meeting of the 400 plus I attended where they said if you all don’t shape up you will fail. They did prod us to grow faster to become more thirsty for next steps, to work harder, to re-listen to tapes of the meetings but there was no monitoring of who was relistening to the meeting tapes or not so it was all self guided though with Ti and Do’s stimulus.

And they ponder a provocative question: Are the forces that helped shape Heaven’s Gate still in play in American society?

Or, to put it another way, could it happen again?

Heaven’s Gate after 20 years

It has been 20 years since the largest mass suicide on U.S. soil took the lives of 39 people in the wealthy San Diego County community of Rancho Santa Fe. Members of the Heaven’s Gate cult committed suicide in hopes of catching a ride on a space ship that they believed was following the Hale-Bopp comet, which was making a visible pass by Earth at the time. A photo gallery recounts the tragic day and the week that followed.

Sawyer’s comment:

Here is what they wrote on their front page of their Web Site about Hale Bopp and the Companion object:

Whether Hale-Bopp has a “companion” or not is irrelevant from our perspective. However, its arrival is joyously very significant to us at “Heaven’s Gate.” The joy is that our Older Member in the Evolutionary Level Above Human (the “Kingdom of Heaven”) has made it clear to us that Hale-Bopp’s approach is the “marker” we’ve been waiting for — the time for the arrival of the spacecraft from the Level Above Human to take us home to “Their World” — in the literal Heavens. Our 22 years of classroom here on planet Earth is finally coming to conclusion — “graduation” from the Human Evolutionary Level. We are happily prepared to leave “this world” and go with Ti’s crew.
If you study the material on this website you will hopefully understand our joy and what our purpose here on Earth has been. You may even find your “boarding pass” to leave with us during this brief “window.”

We are so very thankful that we have been recipients of this opportunity to prepare for membership in Their Kingdom, and to experience Their boundless Caring and Nurturing.

“The Two”

Gallows humor has long been a way for people to deal with tragedies, to give themselves some distance and relief from the horror. But with Heaven’s Gate, there may have been something else at work, according to Benjamin Zeller, an associate professor of religion at Lake Forest College near Chicago and the author of a 2014 book about the cult.

“In some ways, I think it was too close for comfort,” he said.

Too close because many of the beliefs that group members held are similar to those found in more mainstream religions. Belief in a heavenly father. Belief in the importance of the soul over the body. Belief that they were engaged in the eternal fight of good vs. evil. Belief in salvation, in an afterlife somewhere up there. Belief in end times.

“It’s too easy to just dismiss them as nuts,” Zeller said.

Of course, they differed in significant ways from established theology — primarily the belief that heaven is a literal place, and that you get there on a spaceship — but that fits, too, into the broader American counterculture movement that emerged from the 1960s and spawned all kinds of new religious thinking.

“We saw the mainstreaming of angels, crystals, shamans, ascended beings — all that otherworldly stuff,” said Janja Lalich, a Chico State University sociologist who also has written a book about Heaven’s Gate. “You saw it with TV shows like ‘Touched by an Angel.’ Cults that built themselves around this kind of a belief system had an easier time because it didn’t seem so strange.”

Applewhite started the group in the 1970s in Texas with a Baptist-raised registered nurse and astrologer named Bonnie Lu Nettles. They called themselves Guinea and Pig, Bo and Peep, and finally Ti and Do, “The Two,” messengers from God sent here to shepherd the flock to the next level. People who wanted in to their nomadic monastery had to cut themselves off from their families and their previous lives. There were rules that controlled what people wore and ate, not to mention what they believed.

And those beliefs shifted over the years, especially after Nettles died in 1985, a development that created a crisis of faith. They had believed they were going to ascend with their bodies, not just their souls.

***** Sawyers comment:

I feel confident to say that for most of the students there was no crisis of faith becaues of Ti’s exit of her vehicle that was not considered much before then. I say much because sometime around 1977 Ti and Do held a meeting and said they wanted to prepare us in case they left before we did.

None of the big changes were a crisis of faith for me. When they cancelled the demonstration it didn’t phase me. When they organized a spacecraft pickup time – actually twice, once instigated by Ti in about 1980 and once by Do in 1990 or so, I believed there were be a craft to pick us up but that was never my interest in the first place so when it didn’t happen it didn’t phase me. But it did phase some others we would later learn when some left the classroom soon after each of these events that didn’t go as they first described.

I do believe I witnessed Do being quite distraught at Ti’s sudden absense but he recovered quickly it seemed to take the lead on the classroom and was more determined than ever to enact what Ti had taught him. I know some psychologists think that’s where he got off track that led to the suicides but that’s not actually supported by evidence. It simply became something to say so some could put the quandry about this group behind them.

After Ti left Do instigated another visit to families and at least one student – Rthody ended up leaving the group because he liked reconnection with his brother and his family. Ti had instigated the first family visit just two years prior.

Ti and Do had in their library the book, “The Hemlock Society” which consisted of all the ways one could commit suicide. I was actually assigned to help move Ti and Do’s furniture where I saw the book. After Ti left it became part of our library where I read it though we had never spoken about that option.

I can’t be totally sure about the date that I saw the book in Do’s quarters but I do recall it was about the time that we had seen the Cocoon movie that came out on June 21, 1985 but I don’t know when we saw it, though I know I read the Hemlock book and remember thinking what would be the best way to die, though I had no death wish exactly. I had all along thought I would be martyred for Ti and Do, thinking all along that Do was the return of Jesus, not the same vehicles but the same Soul. I know that was the prevelent thought from the start. Some of the students who didn’t end up staying in the group for the full distance, in 1975 talked about being the return of Mary, mother of Jesus (Flxody) and another as the return of the disciple John (Cddody) and another as the disciple Peter (Dncody). All three of these did have a loss of faith it seems when I spoke to each of them after I left in 1994 when they had left years before that as I traveled all over the U.S. and met up with many of the former classmates. I recall wondering who I might have been but it wasn’t anything I really thought about or cared about and even seemed a little silly to dwell on, even if it was possible.

It was soon after that cocoon movie that Do bought a yatch and it was docked in Houston and a crew went to fix it up while I wasn’t part of because I had an Out of Craft Task (job in the world to maintain). But I do recall thinking we might get on that boat and if we weren’t picked up by a craft perhaps would sink it. I don’t know where that thought came from. I can’t recally Do stimulating that thought of sinking it. I just imagined dying by drowning and I didn’t like the idea.

Ti and Do were never sure about how they would exit, whether by anothers hand as it seemed to indicate by the Two Witnesses prophecy but it was always their way to weight and be prepared for any and all the options so to think Do went in that direction more after Ti left is just not evidenced.

Several hundred people joined the group over the years, although the vast majority left for a variety of reasons. Some who left came back. Those who remained to the end were largely longtime devotees. Twenty-one were women, 18 men. They ranged in age from 26 to 72 with more than half in their 40s.


Sawyers comment:

Some came back to the group but it wasn’t all that easy most times as when someone would leave Ti and Do would move knowing they could tell someone about where they were and they could have investigators on their trail trying to pull people out to deprogram them and we were all adults choosing to stay so they tried to avoid having that happen.

For some it was years before they found their way back and hard to believe could have occurred the way it did.

Some were allowed to return in 1993 as we knew where a number were in the Dallas and Colorado areas as we also had a half way house/apartments set up that some classmates were sent to by Do to see if they could conquer aspects of their humanness they weren’t conquering within the classroom. At least one deceided to stay in his Dallas apartment – cddody whom I visited in that apartment in 1995 and has since left his vehicle a disbeliever in Ti and Do.

Rkkody left and found his way back maybe four times and ended up laying down his life in 1998. We had an outstanding joke of sorts with Rkkody that he couldn’t stand to be cooped up so he couldn’t go get a pizza any time he wanted to. In the 1990’s Do gave his little tasks to do communicating with some of the regular UFOlogists like Bill Lear the son of the Lear Jet manufacturer who said he flew drugs for the CIA in southeast asia.

Almost all of them were veteran seekers of spiritual truths, people who had tried other religions, tried tarot cards, tried hallucinogenic drugs.

“Members joined not because of some sort of magical psychological or spiritual truth that the leaders conjured,” Zeller writes in his book, “but because they were looking for something and believed that they found it in Heaven’s Gate.”

Once they were in, though, Lalich — herself a former member of a political cult — thinks free will pretty much disappeared. “Nobody held a gun to their heads, but by that point they were in a place where they could not imagine existence outside the cult,” she said.


Sawyers comment:

I agree that for me I couldn’t imagine life outside the cult. But I did at times entertain leaving a little in the late 1980s or earlies 1990’s. What I mean by entertain was a fleeting thought. Like for instance I had an out of craft task where I was the driver that would drop off and pick up other students from their jobs. So I ended up having a car at my work. I remember when I was driving a white cadillac that I thought for a few seconds that I could just drive away. But I had no place to want to go to. It was in Texas at the time. And I had nothing I wanted to do so it was fleeting.

But Ti and Do, about once a year or so instructed us to stop what we were doing and spend some time thinking about whether there was something in the world we wanted to do or someone to want to be with. Before these periods entertaining such thoughts were considered to be a “slippage” from our self discipline. Ti and Do called this exercise going to the bottom and they also did it at the same time, they said. Usually it lasted for maybe 15 – 30 minutes and they would put out the message to go back to blocking such thoughts. I imagine if I was something who had been entertaining such thoughts anyway at times or was just lax in that mental discipline this was opening the door to really getting honest with what we wanted. I don’t know how much that could have went into the reason some left.

I know Hvvody left because he wasn’t willing to consider castration, which was about 1988 or so. Do had a meeting with males and said he was looking into it for himself. Then he called a mini meeting with about a dozen students at his quarters where I was and where Hvvody was and he asked if any of the males had a reservation about having such a procedure. Hvvody definitely had a reservation and within about a year or less he left the classroom and was helped to do so as was the case for most of the planned departures from the class.

In around 1992 Do said that we had enough “sticks” (money) that he could offer $2000 to anyone who wanted to leave. He said he didn’t want anyone to leave but didn’t want anyone staying with us if they had become comfortable with our lifestyle. After all we lived in large modern mansions sometimes with indoor swimming pools we used according to instruction, tennis courts, running tracks, exercise rooms, great food, though sometimes the health diets were testing of some more than others and about half of us didn’t have jobs or had jobs that were pleasant in office building making a good wage and we had certain fun things we did – movies once every two weeks, regular TV shows, stimulating meetings with Do, outings to the zoo or a museum or one time to a Theosophical society meeting, for some examples. So the idea of leaving would be challenging for some as then they knew they’d have to fend for themselves in what Ti called the “real world” knowing that the “world” she and Do formed for us was not real in the sense of what humans have to experience to live.

As the number of Americans who consider themselves religiously unaffiliated rises — 23 percent now, according to the Pew Research Center — a significant part of the population traffics in the supernatural.

Polling by Gallup shows 24 percent believe extraterrestrials have visited Earth in the past; 25 percent believe that astrology (the position of stars and planets) can affect our lives; 37 percent believe that houses can be haunted; and 21 percent believe that people can hear from or communicate mentally with someone who has died.

“The same demographic forces (that helped spawn Heaven’s Gate) are still at work,” Zeller said. “People are looking for truth, meaning, community and not finding it in existing religions. So they look for new ones or form their own.”

He’s no fan of what the group believed and ultimately did, Zeller said, but that’s not the point. “You can’t just dismiss them as different,” he said. “Even the largest religions of today were once small and new. Who’s to say what will one day be world religions with hundreds of thousands of followers?”

While some wonder about the next Heaven’s Gate, the old one remains operational, at least on the internet. The website,, is maintained by two former members who live in Phoenix.

The site has the flashing “RED ALERT” at the top, the same wording sheriff’s deputies saw on computers when they were called to the mansion on March 26, 1997, and discovered the 39 bodies. There are links on the site to videotapes, “Earth Exit Statements” and other religious material.

Responding to emailed questions from The San Diego Union-Tribune, the former members who run the site declined to identify themselves, but others who have tracked the website’s digital fingerprints say they are Mark and Sarah King, a married couple. (That’s why they’re former members — they wanted to get married, and the group didn’t allow that kind of relationship.)

Sawyers comment:

If Mark and Sarah left to get married they kept it a big secret and construed a huge lie to do so. I knew they got married after they left but have an entirely different experience with why they left that I was there throughout in 1987. Here is a little segment of my book where I talk about it. I don’t give any names but Webmasters who are Mark and Sarah. In this segment I talk a little more about what ensued after they left that led to their being given the task to manage the web site. I have no ill feelings to them personally but feel they are allowing themselves to particate in diluting and distorting Ti and Do’s teachings and acting as if they are the keepers of all the info when they were only given the task to help distribute the audio tapes among those who wanted to participate in the task of disseminating Ti and Do’s info. They were not instructed to make all the materials theirs to copyright but they did and is the reason I didn’t use very many direct quotes of materials from Do and Crew’s book as I didn’t want to leave any way to challenge my books existence. After this I list some of the many interviews I followed them up on where I point out the many misleading things they said to interviewers and now I hear this new twist that they left to get married. I could believe that for Sarah but don’t think that was on Mark’s mind when he was confronted with abiding by the lesson step labeled, “I could be wrong”:

Book segment:

I do know the Webmasters as they were former classmates who were instructed to leave the Classroom in 1987 until such time that they wanted to live by Do’s instructions, surrounding the lesson that was called, “I could be wrong,” which was designed to shift confidence away from self and to TI and DO. In general that lesson was simple. Whenever we’re going to say something as a fact, or make a decision, since we were all committed to becoming 100% like Minded to TI and DO’s Mind, we needed to realize that our judgment might not be what their judgement would be, so we could be wrong. Mark initially didn’t want to abide by that lesson step because he had a quick mind and sharp memory we all recognized and with it a lot of self confience so didn’t feel he could go along with saying “I could be wrong” as a matter of routine. So after a week or two of Help Wanted meetings called by Craft Overseers and called by Do to see if he would receive help from his classmates, to which he didn’t change, Do instructed him to leave. Sarah’s response to this was to gravitate to comforting Mark, which was very strange in and of itself as we didn’t have those kinds of relationship among classmates. If Mark was sitting someplace she was sitting very close to him, even touching him and yet that was never addressed that I knew about as that would not be proper behavior between fellow students. We did not have lateral relationships besides being fellow crew members which was not at all dry and lacking of feelings but was not to be permitted to turn into a human type of relationship. I was there when we each stated to them the conditions of their return that Do gave us the wording for. Around 20 of us went up to both of them and stated they could return if they wanted to abide by the instruction. I know this was hard on Do. At one point in a meeting Do had Mark (mrcody) sit in Do’s lap, sort of like one would hold a baby. That was strange to see I admit but it’s what Do felt to do so I don’t for a minute think was anything really strange. I think I recall that Do expressed then how he loved Mark but didn’t know how else to help him but to have him leave the classroom.

However, Do and Crew stayed in touch with them as they also wanted and offered them service in 1994 when the groups went on the road public again. They provided a little base to a group or two while in their travels and perhaps more than that. My group wasn’t one of those. That effort ended by September of 1994 and Do and Crew continued to stay in touch thereafter and sometime close to when the group intended to lay their human bodies down they offered these two the task of handling the Group’s accounting and certain legalities, though without letting on to the exit plan.

At exit time the Group sent different former members of the group different sets of master Beyond Human tapes and Exit Videos and instructions on how to handle the web site they had constructed and posted for about a year, where they posted the contents of Their Book. Do and Crew wrote letters to them and to a former classmember named Rkkody. Rkkody was a computer technician and programmer so making last minute changes to the web site was given to him and stated in the letters but they received the information and authority and some funds to manage the site and follow up on legalities and were to use some of the money to split between anyone who wanted to help with the dissemination project.

These webmasters were also sent, with their letters, keys and/or combinations to a few storage rooms. One had a small truck in it. Another had various things but it was reported to me by Carlan (Crlody), who joined in 1994 and left soon thereafter, but who worked with Rkkody some that Rkkody told him the audio tape boxes were stacked up in the front of the storage room. There were some 484 tapes that were recordings TI and DO had us make of their “classroom” meetings. It was suggested in the webmasters letter that if they preferred they could ask Rkkody and another former member Oscody to handle going to the storage room to retrieve those things before authorities would get them so that’s what was done. These webmasters turned over all their letters and keys to Rkkody, apparently surprised by their Exit and even blacking out their names in the titles of some of the letters. Carlan sent me the letters. Rkkody and Oscody picked up the tapes and Rkkody began to copy them and digitize them into cd’s he started mailing to universities and libraries and anyone who wanted them. The webmasters changed their mind and asked for the tapes and Rkkody returned them to them but kept his copies and digitized versions. The webmasters started legal proceedings against Rkkody and threatened those that received cd’s with a lawsuit if they didn’t return them.

Rkkody felt he had no service to TI and DO left to do, so he exited his vehicle. Oscody did also a short time later. Before Rkkody left he spoke to me a number of times and also sent me one of the cd’s with the 218 audio tapes on it. Three of them are linked to below in section: VI.C.

A battle ensued between those who felt the intention was to disseminate all the tapes (to include some potential new believers) and the Webmasters moreorless led by Carlan but that I became a part of. I later determined that though I didn’t agree with not providing the tapes, it was left to the Webmasters to decide and I trusted that we have all the information we needed to follow through with “Standing for TI and DO” by spreading their information to whoever wanted it.

The Webmasters went on to give interviews to different internet news sites and when I would find them, I would find discrepancies in what happened, like the reason for their departure from the class, and points of view that are juxtaposed from what TI and DO taught or even the opposite and I would make comments and post to my blog various critiques of what they said to the reporters/bloggers.

Because of that and calling them liars for misrepresenting TI and DO, for instance by saying things like, “There is no Heaven and no Hell” and many other things, I don’t communicate with them any longer. They have copyrighted the BOOK and Tapes and I don’t trust that they wouldn’t try to stop the distribution of my book if I used any of those materials. Thus I reworded everything and 99% is actually from my personal experience that I can bring proof to.  For instance I was one of Do’s “helpers” on 4 episodes of the Beyond Human video Tape series.

Here is some of the evidence of the content of the letters:
Excerpts from Do and Crews letters to web site Webmasters re: audio tape handling

Here are those articles documenting interviews to what these two webmasters said:
Sawyer’s Critique of Heaven’s Gate Webmasters Interview with

Sawyer’s Critique of Heaven’s Gate Webmasters Interview with

Sawyer’s Critique of Heaven’s Gate Webmasters Interview with

Sawyers critique of interview with Heaven’s Gate Webmasters that also describes how Neo was in some ways of the same mind with Mrc and Srf (the webmasters):

Sawyer’s response to interview with Heaven’s Gate website webmasters

A year after the suicides, the Kings got into a legal fight with San Diego County officials, who wanted to auction off the cult’s belongings to reimburse the families of the deceased for funeral expenses. The Kings said they had done video and audio work for Heaven’s Gate, and the group wanted them to safeguard its property, especially the religious teachings.

Although a judge ruled against them in 1999, they negotiated an agreement to buy the writings, artwork and other items for $2,000. In return, they agreed not to profit from the sale of any of it.

In their emailed responses to the Union-Tribune, they said they were in the group for 12 years. Why keep the site running? “They asked us to do it and we were honored to perform the task.” The information, they said, “is still timeless and we are here to provide it to those who ask.”

Interest from around the world “is very high,” they said. Most people get information from the site, but some order copies of an anthology, “How and When Heaven’s Gate Can Be Entered,” which includes teachings dating to 1975 and the text of a “final offer” ad the group placed in USA Today in 1993.

They said there are a few other former members spread around the country, but “there is no group.” Asked what they want people to know about Heaven’s Gate, they said, “The simple understanding is that there is a real, physical level above the human one here on Earth. It is not a spiritual existence. It is real individuals, in real bodies, in real crafts taking care of the issues of their planet.”

Do they anticipate one day joining their former colleagues?

“Yes, but probably not until our next reincarnation on this planet. We just have to live this life out and wait.”

Sawyer’s comment

This is a grave injustice to the teachings of Ti and Do to think that all anyone can do is “live this life out and wait”. To see that one can read many documents in the Book they listed – that no one is automatically going to be salvaged or brought back for a new graduation experience (reincarnation) if they are not regularly seeking to grow in Their Mind that will include degrees of separation from the human world and behaviors and ways. I can prove this was Do and Crew’s policy. In fact here is a statement in that regard that outlines the instructions for anyone that seeks to come in this direction after they exited. It’s set up as applying to three types of people as Do said in his Last Chance to Evacuate Earth Before Recycling Video. Do never closed the gate though Mark and Sarah said that he had. I understand that they were in a tight spot receiving negativity from many so they didn’t want to appear to be promoting anyone else leaving by their own hand. It was a big test for them and I don’t know how they did as that is not in my capacity to judge. But what I can judge is the accuracy of what they say.

Here is the minimum requirement to be “saved” stated by Jwnody on Do’s behalf in their book in the paper she wrote entitled, “Away Team” from Deep Space Surfaces Before Departure” written in 1996:

“In order to get saved for further planting, the overriding requirement is to recognize that this is true (these are the facts). You must believe that we represent the Kingdom that created this planet and all of its inhabitants. And you must be willing to take a stand in defense of that belief, and sustain that stand until the end – your departure – regardless of the consequences.”

Those that feel to give their all toward separting from their human root systems, behaviors and ways have that option to include performing service to Ti and Do, so are not held back in any way but that doesn’t appear to be what they are thinking about for themselves by that statement to live life and wait. If they were not portraying themselves as representative of the website and all it says then what they feel is soley their business but people are looking to them as the authority so if they dilute the truth they are doing a disservice to Ti and Do, the same when I do the same though I hope not to do but do catch myself interjecting my own mind into my talks. So it’s all a lesson step we can all improve upon and that’s all I care to provide which was a big part of the classroom to do for fellow students. However, they are supposed to ask for that help but we don’t have that luxury any more at this time.

I could give many more examples. Of course this seems fanatical unless they really were who they said they were and then it’s only our programming with the misinformation that we all have according to Ti and Do that keeps us from recognizing the truth. Of course it’s challenging as was being in Ti and Do’s classroom. It was never meant to be easy. It was exceedingly hard for Jesus disciples as well though what was made of it is today a “country club religion.” though for some perhaps the best they can do, which is not for me to judge so we all must follow our own path and accept the rewards and/or consquences.


TI&DO The Father & “Jesus” Heaven’s Gate UFO Two Witnesses-Section IV.F.Sixth Seal Opening-“Wrath of God”

March 13, 2017


There seems to be quite the consistency in the way prophecy was laid out with TI and DO’s Kingdom’s:

1) preparation to include preliminary events 2) arrival to include dissemination of Their truth and 3) conclusion as a final judgment and either salvation or recycled souls and Spirit/Minds, relative to each of the 5th, 6th and 7th periods of time and prophesied events described in each of the Three Sevens that are all “affirmation of allegiance to Next Level covenants (commitments to their behaviors, ways and serviceability) during 1) The Seven Angels Sounding Trumpets that sets the stage for the crew of returning Souls arrival, awakening, public disclosures (prophecy) and overcoming requirements for FIRST fruit harvest (graduation from the human evolutionary kingdom and 2) The Opening of the Seven Seals on the revealing of the remaining mystery pertaining to the BACKSIDE of the BOOK prophecy fulfillments adds up to the Final Tribulation and Judgment Time that builds to 3) The Seven Angels Who Pour Out their Vials (calamities) that fulfill the final “wrath of God.”

For instance, the Next Level Crew show their arrival primarily during the time of the 1st to 5th Trumpet Soundings in the 1940’s and 1950’s via their self-sacrifice (cast down their crowns – (Rev 4:10)) of their Next Level physical vehicles (Mostly the Student Model vehicles) shown in some of the crashes of primitive spacecrafts (UFO’s). Their arrival also provided the key to open the BOTTOMLESS PIT (literal underground hiding places) that lets the LUCIFERIAN (having become the offspring of the original fallen angels led by the one named Lucifer, who all once had some elementary service for the Next Level), SPACE ALIENS (because they once had some circulation in outer space regions but in becoming renegades were now alien (estranged DNA and subsequent programming) to the Next Level), provide their VENOMOUS INFLUENCE (because of the misinformation content of their minds and how they seek to capture humans to their thinking that is against the Next Level’s reality and thus DEADLY TO A SOUL).

The Luciferian Space Aliens are HUMAN EQUIVALENT (as the DNA of their physical vehicles didn’t necessarily originate on earth and the exact “human” condition is unique to Earth), MAMMALS (as they all have physical bodies that are biologically from mammalian gene hybridization). But by their release from the “pit” as they began to influence humans who became aware of the crashes, their “venom” spread and infected humans that because the “secret government” spoken of as Mystery Babylon – shown with a “woman” (generator) as it’s “queen” who “sits on” this BEAST that has taken over the “garden” so that all the kings of the earth are to degrees beholding and “in bed with” by their basking in the luxuries from it’s rise to global leadership, which began the U.S. primary decent in 2000.

This is followed by the Older Members (and returning Student Crew) coming incarnate – “borrowing” and taking over prepared human vehicles for their task of the Two Witnesses (He and his Father) and Their giving their “testimony” publically (prophecy) as “smelling salts” to the prepared human vehicles the Student Crew of returning Soul needed to also incarnate into, spend the needed lesson time overcoming their remaining humanness until it was exit time, which again entailed sacrificing their borrowed human vehicles – all during the time of the 6th Angel’s Trumpet Sounding.

Thereafter the remaining Souls who returned with them having just started their overcoming during and since the time Jesus was incarnate would have their opportunity during the time of the 7th Angels Trumpet Sounding. The lesson plan for these is slightly different as they are comprised of those who were not strong enough to graduate with the FIRST FRUIT classroom and/or had not yet earned a Student Model Next Level vehicle to make their application to be rewarded with one, called a “crown” by believing in everything TI and DO said and that they were from the Creators Kingdom who created everything and all the life forms and then would “stand for TI and DO” and maintain that stand, accepting the consequences until they exit their human vehicle however that occurs, but according to prophecy could occur by being literally slain/killed because of their stand for TI and DO, just like occurred for many who stood for Jesus, the real Jesus teachings following his exit from among them.

Overlapping these trumpet sounding times are the start of the 7 seal periods starting with Do and the 38+4 Student graduate’s exit of their human vehicles in 1997 and their Soul’s ascension into whatever spacecraft was hidden from human eyes (in the clouds, or cloudiness) that showed they conquered their human vehicles natural and necessary fear of dying. Dying should not be easy to accept unless one is sure they are acting on behalf of the Next Level and then letting their Older Member help us approve of how and when. We seek that approval the same way we would seek approval for everything we do, up until that point, but by taking His lead in that regard and “screaming” for help to know and have the courage to proceed in whatever way, as He is not going to lead us in any one direction when he is not physically incarnate, as it’s too easy for discarnates – and/or Luciferian space aliens to influence us then. This will only be understood by those who have some of His Mind and consciousness of His reality with us.

It is by the time of the 5th seal time period that the remaining Souls have taken over their human vehicles enough to be willing to give their lives in service to TI and DO’s remaining task completion requirement instructions to begin or continue one’s metamorphosis that overall includes “standing for them” that is part of starting that metamorphosis because of how telling others about TI and DO in a positive light further separates them from their humanness because TI and DO’s thinking isn’t really on the human radar to decipher into common sense. That thinking needs to be drawn into our consciousness by seeking to know all they left behind for us to take in and digest. Giving one’s life isn’t necessarily the completion of their Overcoming of all their Humanness but could qualify them to be awarded with a student model Next Level vehicle for their self sacrifice, however that takes place by another’s hand or by their own.

To choose to exit one’s vehicle by one’s own hand, thinking it’s the ultimate thing to do – to escape taking advantage of the difficult lessons we can have while in the human kingdom, would be the wrong motivation. We need our human physical vehicles to learn lessons by. Short cutting will mean having to face those same lessons again and if we exited before knowing it was the right thing to do, those lessons could be harder to learn the next go round as one will have that program of escape from those lessons to try to override again.

It is during this 6th seal time period shown in Rev 6:15-17 that those remaining who have given themselves to their human kingdoms leaders – the Luciferian space aliens (whether they know it or not) seek to hide underground from the “face of him that sits on the throne” – the only FACE (presence, identity) some may actually think of as being Do’s human vehicle’s face/identity, as he is now the One sitting on the throne, having completed his task of spirit-birthing Their FIRST FRUIT student body. His final return is not incarnate but is to “save” the remaining Souls, though some of those will also be awarded Student Model Next Level vehicles to wear, while some of those that were the FIRST FRUIT graduates would have earned an Adult Next Level vehicle and return as part of his Armada to enact the Final Judgment and the Seven Angels pouring out of their vials which is the remaining “wrath of God.”

This matches up with the end of the 6th Angels Pouring Out of Their Vial, when They (Do and Crew) gather together the .”..kings of the earth and of the whole world, to the final battle of that great day of God Almighty…called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon shown in Rev 16:14-16. The Sixth Part of each of these three multiples of “SEVEN” periods represent the primary arrivals while the Seventh of each the conclusion with the others the events leading up and setting up each of the arrivals.

The opening of this Sixth Seal as with all Next Level prophecy continues the process that is referred to as the “great tribulation” that is concluded with all those who have shown their allegiance to TI and DO being “sealed” and some of that takes place before, during and after the tribulation events as it’s all part of the Judgment Hour (40 years) that has come after the primary return Hour differentiated as the FIRST and LAST harvest periods.



-Rev 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great ((big, large)) earthquake ((seismos= shaking, a commotion, tempest)); and the sun became ((cause to be generated, arise, be brought to pass, be showed, be turned)) black as sackcloth ((8242 saq from shaqaq 8264= a course mesh (that allows liquid to run through))) of hair, and the moon became ((cause to be generated, arise, be brought to pass, be showed, be turned)) as blood;
Rev 6:13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

All of these points are addressed by Jesus that he seemingly was referencing to the prophet Joel. (This is some of the reason for the prophets so that new incarnate representatives and especially the Older Members can have clues to refer to the future). Jesus doesn’t mention the earthquake in this verse but said before this “there would be earthquakes in diverse places”.

Mat 24:29 Immediately ((straightway, immediately, forthwith, directly, soon)) after ((amid, accompaniment, with, behind)) the tribulation ((2347 thlipsis= pressing (together), pressure, [Rev 14/19 winepress harvest time] oppression, affliction, distress, straits)) of those days shall the sun be darkened ((obscured, shaded)), and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from ((apo= separate, off, away from)) heaven, and the powers ((dunamis= strength, ability)) of the heavens ((sky)) shall be shaken ((saleuo= shake down, agitation, shaking)):


Joe 2:10 The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark ((6937 qadar= to be ashy, dark colored; be black(ish), be (make) dark(en), X heavily, (cause to) mourn)), and the stars shall withdraw ((622 ‘acaph= to gather for any purpose; hence to receive, take away, assemble, bring, consume, destroy, fetch, gather, X utterly)) their shining ((5051/5050 (literal or as a figure)= brilliancy, bright(-ness), light, clear(shining), dawn, morning, glitter, cause to illuminate, en-(lighten), (cause to) shine))

– THE SUN GENERATES “BLACK” COMPARED TO “SACKCLOTH HAIR” – Seemingly in relationship to this time in particular, in Mat 24:29 Jesus says that the sun will be darkened, which with it’s added translation options refers to it’s light being obscured or shaded compared to a “course mesh” (sackcloth hair) so perhaps is not totally blackened. It could be that the sun is filled with sunspots that could look like a hairy course mesh of a fabric. Sackcloth

Using sackcloth in the symbolism would seem to match the times. It’s usage is found throughout the Old Testament and mentioned by Jesus in reference to repentance (a person literally changing their mind about something). Sackcloth was the most austere clothing because they were bags often made from goats hair used to ship grains in, so the poor could find useful for clothing. The usage of “hair” in particular lends itself to a description of a fabric which then can relate to:

Isa 50:3 I clothe the heavens with blackness, and I make sackcloth their covering.
Isa 13:10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.

These next verses from Ezekiel indicate the Next Level installs a type of CLOUD COVER to block out all the light from the heavens. One way that is imaginable is also related to smoke, as from volcano’s and in times past dust, as in the late 1930’s dust-bowl, which seemed to be the first manifestation of this calamity/plague, shown in Rev 8:12’a fourth angels trumpet sounding. The 7 Angel’s trumpet Sounding events were heralding, with examples the start of the events of the Day of Wrath – 7 Vials.

Humans have figured out some of what to expect from a large object hitting the sea. A fiery object would cause such an immediate evaporation cloud like many atomic bombs, depending on it’s size would become extensive cloud cover. Another way the Next Level might have available in their tool box to “cover the heaven” would be by installing an object in between the sun and the earth actually thereby regulating how much light, if any, hits the planet. There is already talk about this being Nirabu, some call the Twelfth Planet, based on a popular sci-fi writers book. This is not the only place this idea has been expressed though what’s most important about such an idea is not whether or not it could occur, but by whom and why and how it fits into these prophecies:

Eze 32:7 And when I shall put thee out, I WILL COVER THE HEAVEN, AND MAKE THE STARS THEREOF DARK; I WILL COVER THE SUN WITH A CLOUD, and the moon shall not give her light.
Eze 32:8 All the bright lights of heaven will I make dark over thee, and set darkness upon thy land, saith the Lord GOD.

Joe 2:1 Blow ye the trumpet in Zion ((parched desert like area [as in U.S. southwest from Texas to California)), and sound an alarm in my holy mountain (([a continent is a mountain and where the Next Level comes incarnate makes it a holy mountain])): let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand;
Joe 2:2 A DAY OF DARKNESS AND OF GLOOMINESS, A DAY OF CLOUDS AND OF THICK DARKNESS, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations.

– MOON BECOMES OR GENERATES BLOOD – Total Lunar Eclipses yield a red looking moon. The blood moon is also a sign of upcoming bloodshed and in general is causing the moons light not to shine which is also shown through many Old Testament prophecies for this time period – for example in Joel:

Joe 2:30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.

These SIGNS would be what has significantly increased since 1997 – IN THE HEAVENS; comets of all sorts of shapes, sizes, appearance and proximity to earth, Fireballs, Meteor strikes, IN THE EARTH with the space alien activity, governmental deceptions, profiteering in high finance among corporations, loss of human rights even in the once promising U.S. and Canada’s last frontier, BLOOD; increased endless war, mass shootings and bombings and an overall increase of violence, anarchy, vigilantism, hatreds, bigotries, injustice, judgmentalism – self righteousness – secular or religio-spiritual, man made diseases, bigger and more frequent earthquakes, tsunami’s, hurricanes, and most of all, FIRE; drought stimulated forest fires, nuclear proliferation as in meltdowns polluting the land and oceans, and PILLARS of SMOKE from volcanic eruptions.

Joe 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the LORD come.
Joe 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

Luk 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

I believe this is all mostly pertaining to the time starting with the new millennium with often record setting natural calamities and human events as well but in regards to “the sea and the waves roaring” from about the year 2004, about 7 years after Do and the 38+4 exited their human vehicles, in part evidenced by a number of events, perhaps the biggest being the Indian Ocean Sumatra and Indonesia 9.1 mag. earthquake that shook the planet about .4 inches (humans measured) and caused a tsunami on Dec 26, 2004 that killed over 230,000 people affecting 14 countries with 100 foot high waves that brought 6 foot waves to as far away as Chili and caused earthquakes in Alaska.

On March 11, 2011 or almost exactly 14 years after TI and DO’s classroom exited was another equally large earthquake having a 9.0 magnitude near Tohoku Japan that caused the earth to shift on it’s axis by 4-10 inches and generated sound waves and a tsunami with 128 foot waves in one area that all told killed about 16,000 people and resulted in 3 Nuclear Reactor meltdowns at Fukashima (because of the backup generators getting flooded) that is a disaster in progress being that tons of radioactive waste water are pouring into the Pacific ocean every day and has caused “dead zones” and increased radiation levels detected on the coast of the U.S. state of Washington since.

Sticking to those events that caused great calamity among the people of the U.S., however tame compared to these others, began moreorless with hurricanes, most pronounced in 2005, as the most active season in the U.S. up until that time, with a record 28 tropical and subtropical storms formed, 15 of which became hurricane’s and four reached category 5 strength.

The blood moon or moons sited here would seem to be a sign of death from war and famine which the Jews have a longstanding interpretation of, the location of the war and famine, they say depends on where the blood moons occur. This may have it’s accuracy as where signs from the heavens are most apparent would make sense to have the added part of the “sign” as referring to specific areas the Next Level intends to bring events to. There may be a particular significance to the tetrad of blood moons which are four consecutive total lunar eclipses over two years as occurred last in: April and October of 2014 and April and September of 2015 seeming to herald the 6th year in the decade that starts the opening of the 4th seal, a time of significantly increased separation and sorting.

This sorting is based on their choices in thoughts (their relationship if any with the Next Level Above Human) and their behavior – how they treat others and what they stand for with their actions in word and deed, thus to whom they serve, between the various governmental related BEAST and and what they do, said as acceptance of various forms of “marking” – sealing their fate by their own choices.

The next tetrad occurs in: 2032 Apr 25, 2032 Oct 18, 2033 Apr 14 and 2033 Oct 08 which may be about the time of these 6th Seal’s calamities and the end of the Next Level’s continuing provision of opportunities for humans to choose to come to them. Some may still change but by the time of the 7th seal’s opening the Next Level is “done” providing new opportunities to wake up to seeing their reality and deciding to whom to show their allegiance.

– STARS OF HEAVEN FELL TO THE EARTH – This does seem to be meant as plural “stars” because the example is given to a fig tree casting her untimely figs by a mighty wind shaking the tree.

Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

“Stars” is from the Greek “aster” which refers to a LIGHTED OBJECT STREWN ACROSS THE HEAVENS (like a comet in the near to distant heavens or the new term “Fireball” in the very close atmosphere, or a meteor displays) but simultaneously to the individuals who had become “stars” in the sense of having risen above the human kingdom, to some degree at some time.

“Heaven” can be all places elevated beyond the firmament earth – the literal ground.

These “stars,” referring to individuals using such objects as transportation at this point in time “after and/or during” the “tribulation” period would not be Members of the Next Level for several reasons. Firstly that is because of the timing as all the Older and Younger and Student Members of the Next Level who have physical Next Level bodies or student Souls already came to earth, as shown in the first 5 Angels Sounding Trumpets up until the 1950’s, seen in history as some of the UFO crashes in the U.S. southwest which was some 50 years before the “tribulation” period was to begin and because this same idea in Rev 6:13 compare this “cast out” to “untimely figs” – figs that were not ripe but were “shook” off their “fig tree” by a “mighty wind,” thus from a violent force from “heaven” that causes them to break off the “tree” they were on.

This is what happens to the Dragon and his angels again but this time during this end time as yet another provision of choice from the Next Level to the Luciferian space aliens to choose to whom to give/show their allegiance. Their allegiance to themselves may already be set in stone for some or even all, but like TI and DO said, Lucifer and his associates were given many chances to change and that eventually got to a point of no return for them, though the Next Level until it’s over doesn’t assume they are at that point of no return, but their tests get harder and harder:

Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

This verse refers to the time period AFTER the FIRST “battle in/for heaven (Above Human Kingdom in the literal heavens), fought in the Earth’s atmospheric sky/elevated area” where the Dragon (Lucifer) and his angels (seven seized (heads) with ten horns (hairs grown out from the seized heads) and seven who are “above, after, among, have charge of” those seized (heads) which equals 24 that could be the number of fallen angels who TI and DO said would be replaced by the some of their students (that may be why there are “24 elders,” because that’s how many “seats/positions” needed to be filled) DID NOT PREVAIL/OVERCOME THE ARCHANGEL MICHAEL AND HIS ANGELS in Rev 12:7-8. As Michael was the name given to the prophet Daniel and was stated as an archangel, a “captain of angels” this wording shows the history leading up to the current battle after the tribulation period is underway that on the ground was made manifest by Do (whose Mind/Soul had been incarnate in the name “Jesus” before, and was also indicated by the way Michael was described as a “christ” as the one depicted as Michael (which was not an incarnation).

Thus these “stars” seem to be the Luciferian space aliens, the fallen angel souls, who were once “adopted (sons) of God” (Genesis 6) but who renegaded from their elementary service by influencing humans on earth and propagating their “seed” among them, all against their Older Member’s instruction, that resulted in birthing offspring through human women and then teaching them things, like some “healing arts,” etc. that the Next Level didn’t approve of at that time, perhaps because the Next Level didn’t want them at that time to become independent of the Next Level as then they have a harder time losing that sense of independence, that is very fragile and illusionary and short lived at best anyway. (See Enoch’s writings for details) as the object of the earth’s  existence as a “garden” is to help humans outgrow the earth and humanity. It’s not that the Next Level doesn’t want humans to learn how to use herbs and such. It’s the timing in which they want to introduce to them such things.

Gen 6:4 There were giants ((nphiyl from naphal= a feller, a fallen one, a bully, tyrant)) in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God ((Souls who were student level members of the Next Level with elementary tasks as watchers)) came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

In other words just like before this most recent “fall,” there were these hybrids who became mighty just like their ancestor men who became the leaders of human having conspicuous positions of honor and authority and character, fame(-ous), named, renown – to mortal humans.

A physical manifestation of this “stars fall to earth,” could be the obvious lighted objects falling from the sky, which follows the great earth shaking – earthquake and whatever causes the sun to become black as sackcloth of hair and the moon as blood.

It could also be expected to see any variety and frequency of fireballs and/or meteors and/or comets that “descend from a higher to lower place” – thus “fall to earth” as we saw in 2013 with the Chelyabinsk, Russia that did a significant amount of minor damage caused by it’s sound waves alone.

These events seem to directly relate to Mat 24:29’s saying the “powers of/in the heavens shake (to waiver)” just as is said in Mark and Luke’s gospel along with Joel and Haggai and with particular reference to Isaiah that brings further evidence to the way this prophecy relates to the space aliens. In Matthew the “powers in heaven” are the “unripe figs,” those who were still potentially able to become “fruit” for the Next Level (new membership) but chose not to, so FELL off the vine, speaking of them as the “host of heaven” – souls who had become “children (sons) of God” – the Luciferian space aliens – Souls who fell away from their student level membership, as also shown in:

Humans talk about the “shift in the poles,” which I’ve always wondered about what that would look like, if such a thing was part of what’s happening to the earth at this time. It’s altogether possible that the Next Level could alter the forces that we call gravity and other electromagnetic forces in such a way that the part of the earth’s atmosphere that may literally hold a certain electromagnetic environment that certain of the Luciferian space alien spacecrafts have been allowed to circulate within (perhaps because of how the environment provided power to the elements used in their spacecraft engines, to have zero gravity and other functions) to diminish, so they would be forced to descend to the earth’s surface and/or into the sea and/or to underground areas, thus grounded once again.

This verse from Isaiah seems to directly relate to this time and extends it’s reference to Rev 6:14 as well:

Isa 34:4 And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved ((melt, dwindle, vanish, consume away)), and the heavens shall be rolled together ((separated, taken away)) as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree.

-Rev 6:14 And the heaven departed ((673 apochorizo from apo 575 (separate, remove, take away) and chorizo 5563; to rend apart; reflexively, depart (asunder), to place room between, as in the idea of empty expanse; room, i.e. a space of territory (more or less extensive; often including its inhabitants of a coast, county, fields, ground, land, region)) as ((after, as soon as, about)) a scroll ((975 biblion a diminutive of biblos 976; a roll, bill, book, scroll, writing)) when it is rolled together ((1507 heilisso a prolonged form of a primary but defective verb heilo (of the same meaning); to coil or wrap, roll together)); and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

In this application “HEAVEN” has a different context comparing it to a scroll/book being pulled away, separated from the earth/human kingdom. Considering “every mountain and island moved out of their places” it’s indicating this is linked to the “heaven” departure. This makes most sense when one takes into consideration that what is being called “heaven” in this context could actually be a literal physical, but invisible to humans and their technological detection, very large spacecraft where some members of the Next Level (angels) operate out of and also maintain “gates” and “boxes” (TI and DO’s idea and  terms), where “saved” souls are stored for future opportunities to further overcome their humanness.

As a book that has record of everyone’s works, it seems this “heaven” is described further:

Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

One could imagine if this was removed to install a New “heaven” as is said occurs, it having a physical quality could generate quite a shaking up of the earth both physically and mentally. It would seem to be described in terms of being a scroll or book in how it is also a type of database containing many student level members of the Next Level, each of which have the truth about the Next Level in their “Soul containers” that could equate to be in computer jargon as data objects in the overall database. This “heaven” would then be the environment the Next Level designed for the interface of that information via their incarnate membership but also available to any human who exercised the thirst to know the truth, thus describing some of the mechanism to “ask and you shall receive.” The removal of this environment could even be seen as the removal of the placenta from a mammal’s womb where in this analogy would be the earth, the womb for the new “mind/spirit births.” A placenta is an organ that supplies the nutrition to the new baby in a woman’s womb, before it’s born and after a baby is born, there is an “afterbirth” that this could be representing, pertaining to the first fruit harvest/birth period’s completion.

TI and DO did touch on the potential for the Next Level to have a spacecraft that is invisible and escapes human and space alien technical detection but is physical and can also be quite large, though they didn’t say how large. They also said there could be an entire civilization living on the surface of a planet that is also undetectable by humans. This would lead one to extrapolate the idea as humans write about of a “twelfth planet,” called Nirabu that there have also been many clues to existing unseen, which then can seem to relate to the Rev 21:2-3 that indicates is with humans after the old heaven and the old earth are passed away and is described as the New Jerusalem spacecraft John was taken to the top of a mountain to view measured to be about 1360 miles square. That’s each side of it so is about half the size of the U.S. It has “gates” in it and places no humans nor space aliens nor discarnates can go. But the Luciferian discarnates can go places in it that human spirits can’t and the Luciferian discarnates can teach human level discarnates to go places they are not necessarily aware of otherwise. So it’s apparently quite an elaborate “craft.” TI and DO did say a Next Level craft could be literally on top of a house, what we in their “classroom” called a “craft” and in it there could be Next Level members who had physical bodies, yet are invisible to those who have not raised their vibrations to see them. They are physical but know how to stay out of our way so wouldn’t be able to touch them.

This next related verse shows a differentiation between the “wrath (anger) of the Lord of Hosts,” and the “day/age of his fierce anger.” The Lord doesn’t give these prophets casual things to think, say and express. Every word usually has value. It behooves those of us trying to find the most accurate meaning to treat it that way and see how it relates to other things said, in this case seeming to be referring to the events shown as “double” as double the anger with one having a longer duration and severity that would appear to be the “day/age”:

Isa 13:13 Therefore I will shake ((7264 ragaz= tremble, move, rage, disquiet, troubled, quake)) the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the LORD of hosts, and in the day (age) of his fierce anger.

-Rev 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens ((4693 spelaion= grotto, cavern, resort, cave)) and in the rocks of the mountains;
Rev 6:16 And said (to the) mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

Luk 21:26 Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

These events certainly do cause a major disruption of life as usual on earth, otherwise why would all these people hide themselves in their dens and in the rocks. It’s very interesting how both scientists and religionist christian prophecy commentators and interpreters are seeing similar handwriting on the wall regarding these being the end times. Also prophecy is organized in such a way as to allow anyone to dismiss it as having any relationship to events or can be seen as having many relationships to events and even degrees of relationships so that everyone gets what they want to get, regardless of it’s level of truth and accuracy.

There have been many signs – increasing near miss asteroids, comets coming in pairs closer to earth than ever before, frequent fireballs, meteors that do some damage or are believed to have crashed into the sea to cause significant waves, sun activity that correlates with earthquakes that have increased in frequency and intensity, big tsunami’s, hurricanes, tornado’s, baseball and softball sized hail storms and volcanic eruptions. These events are reported but downplayed or hyped as end of the world which for many has been something heard about for decades so pay it no mind or think these events are made up entirely to control people. But the ones in the know and who have the money to pay for quarters in an underground city are quietly arranging to flee to one of these many underground “cities.” It seems these would be the “dens” while the rocks of the mountains could be a generalization that includes the “Rocky Mountains,” for instance where NORAD is located inside Cheyenne Mountain at the military base in Colorado Springs, Colorado and another known facility related to Holloman AFB in New Mexico’s Manzano Mountains that in particular has a history of alleged joint Human military and UFO/Space Alien activities.

There is a newer underground city outside of Kansas City, Kansas reported as an underground office park advertising that it’s more efficient for both heating and cooling. The newest Denver Airport has been long suspect as having such a facility underground. It is very spread out, hardly something that is efficient to do as one needs to take above ground shuttles to the rental car area and to the parking areas, while there is an underground tram between the very spread out airline gates. Walking in between the gates to change flights is a major effort with long stretches of moving sidewalks. I also saw a television report about a new hidden subway line being built deep under NYC and have heard about tunneling under the Long Island Sound from Long Island’s Brookhaven National Laboratory in Stonybrook, NY, where there is also a particle collider and several nuclear power generators, where there was an alleged UFO crash many years ago. I actually lived in Stony Brook and remember there was a small area where there was no cell phone signals, yet no mountains or other obstacles and an abundance of towers. Tunnel boring equipment has become very well developed to go several miles an hour.

While in TI and DO’s classroom in the early 1990’s and since I’ve seen maps and read reports that indicate there are tunnels already built or in progress from Maine (Kennebunkport?) to a number of points in the east to include under the Long Island Sound that extend into the western states where there is a larger network between military bases. Some of the leaks I saw reported were said to be from contractors involved in these projects. It’s not really a secret as humans are generally aware of bomb shelters existing for decades but what many don’t know is the extent they exist now and their sophistication and how they won’t be available to the general public.

Luk 23:30 Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall on us; and to the hills, Cover us.
Luk 23:31 For if they do these things in a green tree, what shall be done in the dry?

Chapter two from the prophet Isaiah talks about the LAST DAY or DAYS when wars shall end and all the humans who have become haughty, proud and lofty, worshiping of gold and silver, pleasing themselves with strangers, with no end to their horses and chariots (automobiles – transportation means), and all pleasant, desirable images (pictures) (imaginations) shall all be humbled and brought low by the earth’s shaking. Here are the verses that address how some seek to hide from what they then know is the Next Level Above Human (Lord). Simultaneously with these going to hide are efforts to convert the weapons (swords) into a focus on growing food to survive because, as I imagine the infrastructures will have fallen apart so for those living it’s locals fending for themselves and their neighbors – possibly the “meek inheriting the earth,” Jesus spoke of:

Isa 2:10 Enter into the rock, and hide thee in the dust, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty.
Isa 2:19 And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.
Isa 2:20 In that day a man shall cast his idols of silver, and his idols of gold, which they made each one for himself to worship, to the moles and to the bats;
Isa 2:21 To go into the clefts of the rocks, and into the tops of the ragged rocks, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.

Hos 10:8 The high places also of Aven, the sin of Israel, shall be destroyed: the thorn and the thistle shall come up on their altars; and they shall say to the mountains, Cover us; and to the hills, Fall on us.

But the fear with these will feel worse than death to endure. It seems what will come with the event is the recognition that this is being instigated by Living Beings that I suppose most will think about as evil space aliens as they would not have much if any realization that there is a kingdom of physical Living Beings that are Above the human equivalent space aliens evolutionarily just like humans are above animals evolutionarily who are seeking to salvage their “product” they can “replant.” It would be like those plants that became weeds in a farmers garden, choosing to prey on the species the farmer designed the “garden” to grow, so the farmer took advantage of their choice and allowed them, the weeds to have limited access to the plants He wanted to help them develop resistance to and yield better fruit because of, that would no longer be susceptible to the same deterioration.

It is also the case that the Next Level Older Members when in their Next Level vehicles and present with their Next Level spacecrafts emit so much power that they can not be looked upon without fearfulness and as was said by some of the Prophets, with great awe that they would literally fall down from feeling. Jehovah told Moses he would die if he looked upon His Face, but he let Moses touch his shoulder or back as he had a physical body (as Jesus also demonstrated having after his human vehicle was permitted to be killed. Part of what can kill a human to look upon, I suspect is how their mind frightens away all our discarnates, the entities most don’t recognize are all around us and shape what we become and derive security and confidence from. TI and DO said that was the overcoming process, that is, when we get rid of our own discarnates one by one. They also said that at times they would run off our discarnates from us – another way of looking at their “taking our sin” from us, where “sin” is missing the mark, so they would be the ones removing our test at that time so we wouldn’t “miss the mark,” though eventually to graduate we have to be able to maintain enough of our own “staying on the straight and narrow.” Running away our discarnate influences takes them on. That is described as part of the “flood” in Rev 12 that is most focused on the Woman – the “generator” of life, incarnate, that chapter mostly referring to TI.

– “HIDE US FROM THE FACE (presence) OF HIM THAT SITTETH ON THE THRONE AND THE WRATH OF THE LAMB” – Face is also translated as “presence.” In other words these Kings of the earth, etc. are looking upon these events as the reason to flee underground and for some to hide from the Next Level’s presence.

This depicts all manner of people fleeing to their underground facilities (cities), some having anticipated this time for decades from the prophecies in the Bible and the signs in the heavens and on the earth, to include for some, witnessing what became called the UFO phenomena, and things the Space Aliens have said and done as reported by witnesses, whistle-blowers, abductees and contactees.

These are said to be aware of the PRESENCE (FACE) of the one “sitting on the throne” and of the “Wrath of the Lamb,” thus indicates their having a Christian mindset as many Christian leaders have been anticipating these things for a long time, though most may be totally unaware of the primary incarnate stage of the Older Member Two Witnesses, or they have a spiritual or mystical way of looking at everything in the various prophecies, whether each is a valid source of truth or not. One would think these wouldn’t be Christians as the believers in Jesus are either not afraid of the wrath of the Lamb because they believe themselves in his favor, or they think they will be taken to heaven before that wrath is unleashed, either after they die or during the “rapture.” However, some may believe the way they are to be saved is by hiding underground so they would escape the wrath upon those not in their camp still on the surface. After all, Jesus said those in Judea should flee to the mountains and some of the underground cities are likely in various mountains. For instance at Cheyenne Mountain in Colorado Springs and in the Manzano mountains south of Albuquerque – and no doubt in a number of other areas. It doesn’t have to make sense with the full teachings of Jesus as there are many, many things Christians believe and/or justify doing that don’t make sense with Jesus teachings. This would simply be yet another.

Some others, however relatively few, might have considered TI and DO as the manifestation of returnees Jesus spoke of, as they may have become aware of Their true history and Their BOOK (WRITTEN FROM THE “INSIDE” OF THE THRONE) and now this LITTLE BOOK – the “BACKSIDE” of the remaining prophecy revealing (See Rev 5:1).

All the various camps among the atheists, religionists, pagans and those who deem themselves spiritual or new agers, that can often be a mix of all these forms of thinking, might also consider TI and DO representative of the space aliens since the space aliens also promoted themselves by some reports as the ones who created Jesus and as the Elohim, the engineers of humans. This is ironic in how the Christian Jesus is in fact a concoction of the real Jesus and the Elohim, being magistrates and judges that were superior to humans and thus were deity, which were/are the positions taken by various Luciferian space aliens – fallen angels as seen in the teachings of Rael, leader of the Raelians who are said to number around 60,000 members worldwide.

It was in Bob Lazar’s report that he was shown a “yellow book” that was supposedly written by a space alien group that said they had created Jesus and had film of him on the cross to prove it. But even if this was not an accurate report, we know Jesus warned that there would be many false Christs, even some using the name “Jesus” or portraying they are acting on behalf of Jesus as we see in many churches and especially in the office of the pope. I’m not saying the Pope would say he was “Jesus” or a “Christ,” any more than priest and reverends and pastors would say that, but it’s the position they take with the public that speaks to who they think they are. They act as if they are the shepherds of their congregations as their flocks.

But to identify this FACE or PRESENCE has the suggestion of an identity, but I imagine that’s going to be a person by person kind of recollection based on what they have considered and come to believe or not and what each of us believes and to who we actually look to by seeking their help and strength, which will determine what we receive or not that will show to which camp we are aligned – between Human Mammalian, “treasure and wealth,” (physical and/or mental based) or to the Older Members from the Next Level Above Human aka the One True Kingdom of God. That alignment puts us either in the “right or left” (and that has nothing to do with the social and political use of those terms, though there are certain characteristics in both categories). In Jesus teachings it makes each of us either “wheat” for the Next Level or among the “tares” – the look alike wheat – false Christians that are thrown into Lake of Fire.

Mat 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mat 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
Mat 24:39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mat 24:40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken ((take to, receive near, assume an office, learn)), and the other left ((sent, to go, sent forth, cry, forsaken, let alone, suffer)).
Mat 24:41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Mat 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

I know some Christians think this is describing what they call the “rapture,” shown in movies as those “taken” by the Lord rising into the air with their physical bodies. I have heard stories from young people they have dreams of their being taken. The problem with this is it’s contrary to the Next Level way. The Next Level don’t “take” people. They provide opportunities and we then choose what to receive and in that way is what we “take to” which can result in our Soul being “taken” to their “safe place” after we exit our human vehicle. It is being “caught away” only in the sense that one has chosen to take the offering of truth, which has the affect of capturing the attention of our flesh vehicles that we as the Soul must stay on course with to reap the rewards. This also seems to be a depiction of which human vehicles the Next Level decides to make a “deposit” of their “Soul container” into.

But when the Older Member blows their trumpet by publically telling the truth in a land that is near absent of the most truth, it’s a test whether the that Soul deposited vehicle, “receives near” to them, “draws” that Older Member’s Next Level (Holy spirit/mind) to themselves to foster a sprouting of their Soul seed or not. When someone – the vehicle – receives this Next Level gift, in that sense it too will “take them,” in how they could “take to” the truth and become thirsty for more. If the Older Member is incarnate they might literally follow with Him/Them, or if they are no longer incarnate, as is the case at this time, they will “follow their every word” that  would help them separate from the human kingdom to be saved from the flood of Luciferian misinformation mind all are swimming in, as the norm in the human societies. These are the wheat Jesus described.

On the other hand those that are “left” defined as “sent, to go, sent forth, cry, forsaken, let alone, suffer” (also as in “goats to the left”) don’t receive the “deposit” and don’t have the opportunity to receive the truth from the Next Level so are depicted as the “tares” planted by the enemy among the wheat who are pulled up and/or separated out from the “righteous.” One can see how it’s all but impossible to see much of this without the Next Level’s Mind/Spirit leading the way by receiving the way they think directly from the Older Members via their words.

Thus for those that take offense at saying some receive the gift and others do not and the ones who do not become the waste while the ones that do receive it and work it become the saved and even graduates, they are choosing which camp they are siding with. They can always study everything the Next Level Older Members said and did and while doing so ask for help from the Next Level – highest beings from the heavens they can imagine reaching up to. Thus there is no elitism in knowing this truth because having the truth is only the first step. If there is no application as the provision of service – standing up for the information when the circumstances present themselves, that none of us are limited in seeking, then that seed may not be taking, though there will be more opportunities, except every time we resist taking an opportunity to be of service it becomes harder to be of service next time – not impossible but one becomes less inclined. In other words, one must “use it or stand to lose it.”

Some who had the exposure to TI and DO, the “faces” of the vehicles they came incarnate into, when they see these events just listed in this sixth seal opening time, even if they never paid any further attention to anything TI and DO taught, may have an image of TI or Do’s vehicle’s face pop into their head and they no doubt will “mourn” at that realization and seek to escape it and perhaps even wish to die rather than face the premise of who is actually Lord over the earth, which is shown:

Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

So I would say the “sign of the Son of Man” would be the evidence of how TI and DO were “like the son of man” in terms of having a human vehicle they borrowed for their task. (Borrowed was a term Do used and it is actually borrowed because it is taken and then returned though the return is putting it back into the dust of the earth). Plus in everything they said and did, what they required of students – to leave all behind to be in their classroom, to give one’s all, cutting ties, not sharing our love with humans anymore – not respectful of marriage commitments or in the responsibility for children or parents or to one’s home, etc. because it was now time to give all of ourselves to the Next Level through the incarnate representative their students, whose vehicles they prepared could recognize as being the same as they (the souls but potentially also in the genetic memory) felt, and identified when the same Older Member was incarnate in the name Jesus. All these characteristics will always be what one can expect from a genuine Older Member who comes incarnate so are signs to those given the eyes to see them.

The signs during the time of Judgment remain as a testimony of the truth yet with the Older Members no longer incarnate are added to provide new signs that amount to a significant show of proof, still for those who have “eyes to see” (as Jesus said often), as for those that aren’t given that gift of recognition, all such signs are at best a curiosity, coincidence or random natural occurrence, or don’t compute at all – “go in one ear and out the other,” so to speak. TI and DO often indicated that when proof was provided it was because graduation from the human kingdom was not possible for those human vehicles who were serving as the containers for returning souls to overcome as they had to generate their belief and commitment from their observation of all the Older Members incarnate represent in what they say and do, from when they first hear their “voice” to when they exit.

It’s the vehicle that can be swayed by “proof” and if that occurs the Mind/Spirit from the Next Level Older Members is no longer bringing the needed “body changes” to that deposited “Soul body” needed to make the grade for graduation “birth” viability. So even though there is still a stage of graduation still very much in the program for those that are drawn to the Older Members incarnately provided, by words and actions, witness/testimony, there is a new criteria for how much “proof” is provided, just like the case with Jesus disciples. Their vehicles were given various proves – miracles and especially in the last 40 or so days when Jesus was among some of them, still very much physical and yet having what looked to them as supernatural powers, because they, their Souls needed that help to rise to Standing for Jesus with more conviction and power in that experience that would be saved in their developing Soul body, so upon the return would be given to each new human vehicle they were each to take over – Stand up again in (resurrect) but this time to complete their classroom lesson plan (“piano roll”) without that same level of proof.

So the signs during this time of Judgment took additional shape for the sake of the potential new students, who could choose to seek the Older Members will for them, that entails learning all there is to know about what TI and DO taught and believing it’s all the truth and then Standing for Them – actually “re-standing” for them, which is the meaning of “resurrection.” So with this new stage the Next Level provides additional signs that are to be seen in the heavens and on the earth, one big one being in the form of what humans call comets or the more localized Fireballs and unusual Meteors or Asteroids, but include all of the signs depicted in prophecy. They are all signs and in particular are those in the literal heavens and that would include in a big way what is depicted as the “opening of the temple in heaven”:

Rev 11:19 And the temple ((3485 naos from naio= to dwell, a fane, shrine)) of God ((Deities)) was opened ((455 anoigo= re-opened, intensified, reversal)) in ((+ by, because of, about, after, among, outwardly, upon, therein)) heaven, and there was seen ((to gaze at something remarkable, appear, look, see, shew self)) in his temple ((naos)) the ark ((a box, sacred ark as in ark of the covenant that contained the laws of God inscribed on the tablets, Noah’s ark)) of his testament ((disposition (preparation, readiness), covenant)): and there were lightnings ((bright shining)), and voices ((tones, disclosures)), and thunderings ((roars)), and an earthquake ((rock, vibrate, commotion, tempest, move, sideways agitation, tremor)) and great ((big, fearful, strong, mighty)) hail.

Strongs indicates the Greek anoigo is a combination of ana and oigo (to open), so just translating it to “opened” doesn’t make much sense. There are a number of additional works with the same ana prefix that take into account the way ana refers to inferring a repetition or reversal of whatever the verb is, in this case “to open,” so why wouldn’t it be in this context “re-opened,” though it wasn’t spelled out in the same way before this time.

The FIRST time “heaven” was opened was so Do and his 38 students could pass through the “Heaven’s Gate,” which was recorded in Rev 11:12 as their “ascension into heaven in a cloud” – witnessed by their enemies – as said in Rev 1:7 would occur to the returned One who was named Jesus.

(The student body was also shown to be with these Two Witnesses in Rev 11:2 to be found evaluated in detail in that earlier section in this book – said in summation as those who would be on foot in the holy city 42 months making their covenant affirmation which was the second 3 1/2 year period depicted in Rev 12 as their time in the “wilderness” where the student presence is also described.)

So with TI and DO and Crew’s ascension into heaven as a type of opening of heaven, this depiction in Rev 11:19 is a “re-opening” and the greatest signs leading up to that re-opening are what’s been happening in the heavens, with the sun, moon, stars (planets), etc. and on earth with the huge increase in volcanic and earthquake activity and more violent storms, during the FIRST part HARVEST WAVE occurring primarily in the areas outside the continental United States but since the exit of TI and DO and crew in 1997, escalating in the U.S. which will see a dramatic increase with the onset of the 4th seal opening that is timed to the human events surrounding the presidential election in November of 2016 and subsequent tribulation period that has also been escalating since the 1990’s final offering of the truth by the incarnate Older Members and Crew.

Here is a summary of those signs starting with 2013, which was the 40 year (1 hour) mark since TI and DO awakened in 1973 with the combination from January through March with the Chelyabinsk meteor, Fireballs over California and other western states, Texas, an unexpected near miss asteroid and unexpected comets and one or more Fireballs that traversed the Ohio valley but seen from Maine to Florida that acted more like a comet or rocket than a meteor and with the larger comet display was a companion object photographed in it’s coma, that’s immediately in front of this great burning ball of light traversing from east to west along with the Jesus prophecy. Then in 2014 and 2015 and 2016 there were repeats of most of that pattern during the same time periods. Each of those years there were also very unusual comet behavior around July to September – comet ISON that was shown by using pixel filtering software on airbrushed photos from NASA, at one point looked like a flying wing of 7-8 objects that broke the physics rules. It went into the Sun, or very close to it and behind it and wasn’t expected to survive but came out the other side, but in a place that changed it’s trajectory from when it entered. And when it came out there was an associated huge Solar Flare and with it a huge distribution of planet sized objects as if dust, behind it and soon after that it was photographed as those 7-8 objects flying in V formation.

Another comet that caused a large apparent flash/explosion on Mars when it passed by at it’s closest point to Mars, which was photographed from earth and another event of two huge objects over the sun with one directly on top of the sun but separated from it and obviously exchanging energy with the sun that was in the shape of a T videotaped by the SOHO satellite camera.

June and July of 2015 signs were dominated by the Dawn spacecraft’s photographs of the Ceres lights and by the New Horizon spacecraft’s photographs of dwarf planet Pluto that included one area on Pluto that looked like four huge hanger bays, rectangular shapes equidistant from one another and all of the same length and width, that looked like four black piano keys. Since that one was released the same area has been shown but only in an enhanced format that just doesn’t look the same at all.

(Ceres Pics:

There is no telling what additional ways TI and DO and Crew will fulfill this prophecy of Their “presence” and/or “face” apparency in the next years until it’s into this 6th Seal time but nothing more may need to happen for many humans to run to their underground hiding places thinking they are shielding themselves from the “wrath of the Lamb” when the U.S. experiences these events listed in this Seal Time. This seeking of shelter in the rocks to escape the “LAMB’s WRATH” seems to imply Christians are among the biggest group who will be seeking shelter underground from what’s happening on the surface. So one would think, why if they are thought to be in the favor of the Lamb would they be running from his wrath (anger). One twist to that is thinking they have been led to recognize what’s happening or about to happen because of their belief in the Lord, (which has truth to it) so they are being “saved” from that wrath. But one of the many ways that is misinformation is because being saved was never about our flesh bodies being saved. It was always about our Souls and/or Mind/Spirit being saved and the willingness to sacrifice our flesh – at first by beginning to separate from the ways of the human kingdom according to the guidelines laid out by Jesus and then updated by TI and DO and Crew.

Ceres in particular is most “temple” like, even having a “spire.” There is a city-scape array of very bright lights on dwarf planet Ceres, shown by many pictures taken by Dawn spacecraft’s orbit from four altitudes, where it is still orbiting in 2016, that seems to be showing a literal Next Level dwelling (aka “mansion” and/or tabernacle), by it’s name in use to aid in the conclusion of the “harvest” (the prime description of the “goddess of the harvest” in the Roman mythological name “Ceres” (and it’s predecessor Greek goddess named Demeter that is associated with the Rev 6:8’s “green” “horse” (mis-translated as “pale,” though may prove to be adjusted for by the Next Level)).

This vast assortment of light sources are on the planets surface but potentially could be coming from deeper inside what I believe at this point is actually a planet sized spacecraft that humans are calling a dwarf planet and/or the largest known asteroid. The closest pictures provided so far in early 2016 actually show the biggest “bright spot” (NASA’s description) to have significant elevation. From the photos and according to reports from architects who have studied the array of photographs taken from at least three orbits, that even shows a shadow in one angle, this largest light source is estimated to protrude 5-10 miles above the planet’s surface on the inside of a huge crater. It appears roundish but overall looks like a natural formation kin to the Eiffel tower as a tall SPIRE and/or church steeple.

At the same time around the base of this tower, it looks the way a natural grown tree trunk would look, with roots that show as well as if it’s growing like a tree, but without apparent branches coming off of it, so gave me the impression of being the “tree of life.” And the whole thing is glowing a very bright white light. It’s being talked about as being a crystalline structure. Considering the light as coming purely from the suns reflection is hard to justify, having first photographed it as looking like one light from many millions of miles away by the Hubble space telescope in 2003, which became the reason the Dawn spacecraft was built and launched in 2007 to take a closer look.

There is talk about a mining operation there which would be part of the reason behind the space program and plans to colonize the Moon and Mars that G.W. Bush announced in one of his last state of the union speeches, (following China’s announcement of colonizing Mars). It is altogether possible this tower is made of an element that humans have little to no examples of on earth that can be used to generate a kind of energy that if harnessed might reveal the mystery element behind the prospect of a propulsion system that can provide a zero gravity environment for dense matter operations as in exiting the planet, instead of the needed fuel tanks to power rocket engines.

Humans would then have the main component to build spacecrafts that would operate the way the flying saucers they have confiscated operate which would be kin to the primitive models of spacecrafts the Next Level provided those that became the Luciferians, since Lucifer was the name of a once aspiring student to Next Level membership that “fell” away from serving the Next Level in a student level “elementary task” capacity described by Enoch’s writings as one of the “watchers.” Thus this could be the element Bob Lazar also reported about and that G.W. Bush also speculated on his proposed Moon and/or Mar’s missions, “might find an energy source that would boggle the mind.”

As the Greek word translated to “opened” in it’s compound form could also be “intensly opened” one could even say this was the start of seeing what was said as the Son of Man coming in his glory, where “glory” is also kin to “brightness” and “brilliance” and those pictures of those lights on Ceres are certainly one huge evidence of that. Even NASA is largely referring to the “lights” as “bright spots.”

This “face” and/or “presence” is referring to the overall recognition of Living Beings with a great deal of power and ability to operate completely invisible to humans and their technology, who evidence stimulating earthquakes and volcano’s and manipulation of comets, asteroids, meteors, etc. thus are seen by some world leaders as a very powerful enemy that threaten human existence and their continence of ruler-ship over the earth, thus are significantly feared. The same leadership is completely taken over by the Luciferian space aliens, indirectly but in several ways. First, because the Luciferians are discarnate Souls who seek out humans they can use to forward their agenda so when David Icke reports that certain world leaders are aliens and it can be seen in their eyes, is actually on the mark, yet what he might not know is that the amount of influence and thus control the Luciferians (who he just refers to as the Reptilians last I heard) have on most or even all humans at this time is in degrees, that is regulated for some by the Next Level, so the Luciferians can’t overwhelm those the Next Level deposited and seek to provide opportunity to overcome their influence to determine which souls to “save” from the upcoming recycling.

A final perspective of this “face” being fled away from is shown in:

Rev 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

So it seems apparent that this “opening of the temple of god in Heaven” goes hand in hand with humans fleeing underground – into the caverns and rocks to hide from the “face” (presence) of the Lamb. We should keep in mind these are all events that are years in the making. TI and DO certainly opened up the idea of the “temple in heaven” in the 1970’s though it became considerably more apparent by their exit with the name they chose for their 7th Thunder – the web site and exit in 1997 as “Heaven’s Gate” with the highly unusual and unprecedented characteristics that added up to the SIGN in the Hale Bopp Comet that was the timing for their exit of their incarnations, planned for as early as the spring-summer of 1994.

Revelations chapter 11 provides the overview of the events that all lead up to this OPENING that comes during the time of the 7th Angels trumpet sounding that shows by this “Little Book” (Backside story) how all prophecies are fulfillment by TI and DO that makes the “nations (people) angry” to hear about. (See Rev 11:18).

This timing of OPENING is collaborated in Revelations chapter 15 as taking place AFTER the 24 Elders and others have “conquered” the Luciferian Space Alien BEAST – the human condition and have “harps of God” – instruments (vehicles) made for them by the Next Level and while the 144 AND A MYRIAD OF THOUSANDS are and have been SINGING THE SONG OF MOSES AND THE SONG OF THE LAMB which is the “tribulation period” when they are all sealed (Rev 7:1-8) to allow the WRATH OF THE SEVEN ANGELS POURING OUT OF VIALS to proceed 100%, (though it had degrees already in motion before this, but primarily in the so called 3rd world countries but would at this time occur on the U.S. mainland afterward, as shown in:

This idea of singing the song of Moses and the Lamb is first introduced throughout Revelations chapter 14 which describes events leading up to this time from the perspective of the 144 and a myriad of thousands that ends with the description of the “winepress” that includes the pressure upon those 144 and myriad of thousands who “stand” for TI and DO during the time leading up to this point as shown in the previous SEAL Periods.

-Rev 15:1 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up ((5055 teleo from telos= to end, accomplish, make an end, expire, finish)) the wrath of God.

In other words these Seven vials poured out are the seven last plagues that bring to conclusion the Judgment Time of Tribulation.

-Rev 15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.

John also describes the same “sea of glass” as in Rev 4 that appears to the the “briefing” TI said she remembered before she left, once again about to start the decent to the finish that was to be the task of those first fruits who graduated their human overcoming. These verses also describe the same scene of the “144 and a myriad of thousands” who were sealed having converted their human vehicles to “Next Level instruments” termed “harps” as in Rev 14:1-5 that further identifies them as the same ones who sang the song of Moses and the song of the Lamb – their time with Jesus who served as that example of the needed sacrifice to stay the course to graduating into Next Level adult membership.

-Rev 15:3 And they sing the song ((5603 oide pronounced, “o-day'” (from aido=sing) defined as a chant or “ode” (the general term for any words sung)) of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints ((40 hagios from hagos (an awful thing); sacred, most holy one)).

This is interesting how TI and DO named their students each with a “ody” extension, they gave while indicating these were being “adopted” by the Next Level. I recall that taking place in 1977 or 1978 when the number of students was in the 60’s and they said when we became “adults” they would drop the “y” so our name would end in “od,” though that never occurred. Do did issue new names along those lines in 1993 that were a “dote” extension, though were never used as soon after that the Beyond Human video tapes were put up on satellite broadcast and sent to some who had dropped out but still had some contact, that prompted their desire to return to the group and Do didn’t want to have students with different names as if some had advanced and they had not as that was not necessarily the case, as we soon saw. My name at the time was Swyody changed to Swydote which was a shortened Sawyer with the added extension. The reason I’m taking special note of this was because it had never occurred to me that “ody” could be equated to the Greek oide so our very names were all identified as songs to/of TI and DO whose names came from the Sound of Music song, Doe a Dear, where Tea was a drink with jam and bread in the scale with TI that highest and 7th note on the octave that started with Do. Plus an “ode” is a general term for any words sung and words are the medium to communicate the what’s on someones Mind/Spirit that is Holy Mind/Spirit when it’s from the Mind of an adult Member in the Next Level.

These verses also describe the JUDGMENT TIME that begins soon after the FIRST Fruit harvest is completed, after Do and crew layed down their human vehicle’s lives in 1997. The decision each is judged by is their own and the criteria is what they think and do with the information about TI and DO, after it’s received. If they begin to look into what TI and DO taught and they believe in what they said and begin to “stand” for Them and Their information (words) – expressing aspects of it to others when asked for to some degree, then they are automatically choosing to start their separation from the human kingdom, because believing in them and standing for them will be met with a variety of responses to include hostility and ridicule from some. Being willing to engage that, though not desiring that response, strengthens our own connectedness to them because it exercising what TI called one’s “Mind Muscle” and simultaneously draws more of Their Mind/Spirit to ourselves, becoming our own, literally filling our deposited container (Soul) that further raises our vibration to see more of what They see from doing.

-Rev 15:4 Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all ((all manner, any, every)) nations ((ethnos= race, people)) shall come ((arrive, be present)) and worship ((show reverence to, serve, Do defined as to “work for”)) before ((in the face of (literally or as a figure) before, in the presence (sight) of)) thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.

Thus the question is posed, of who will GLORIFY THY NAME meaning, who will give credit to, put light upon, show others the truth, STAND FOR by speaking aloud to others the information provided by the Older Members, relative to today, the Older Members are those who were incarnate, having the new names of “TI and DO” as the most recent Representatives from the “Chief of Chief’s,” Kingdom of God, Kingdom of/in Heaven, that created all the life forms and the planets and environments.

JUDGMENTS ARE BEING MADE MANIFEST indicates for some their decision of who to give allegiance to is final and because of that will determine who will be set aside to be saved and who will be recycled.

This “glorifying of thy name” is giving “glory” to those who deserve the “glory” which has been diluted and distorted into a “vain (meaningless) repetition” type of prayer by many Christian religious leaders and their supporters who often don’t know any better but who often don’t think they can know any better so don’t want to know any better, because many words in scripture have become religious and spiritual terms that are less accurate than the updated terminology provided by the most recent Reps, TI and DO and Crew, who show the practical aspect of what GIVING GLORY really is – GIVING SERVICE BY STANDING UP FOR, EXPRESSING TO OTHERS WHAT THE MOST RECENT REPS PROVIDED TO THINK, SAY AND DO. It is abiding by the specific instructions (aka commandments but not in the authoritarian sense of that word as in controlling, as it is we who need to garner the self control to take their instructions as commandments, not they who seek to control us) provided to date and a big part of that at this time is to “Stand for TI and DO,” despite the “trouble” (tribulation) that will come from doing so, which is described in Rev 14:6-7 as the “hour of his judgment” – generally speaking a 40 year period that begins moreorless after the FIRST fruit harvest “hour” noted as the Two Witnesses “ascension,” (exit), by about 2013-2017:

Rev 14:6 And I saw another ((more, “else”)) angel ((messenger(s))) fly in ((+about)) the midst of heaven ((between, among, way of heaven)), having the everlasting ((perpetual)) gospel ((good message)) to preach ((2097 euaggelizo= announce, evangelize, show, declare)) unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
Rev 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

Notice how it’s depicting the MESSENGERS ANNOUNCING the GOOD MESSAGE FROM THE MIDDLE, BETWEEN HEAVEN. The context of this verse is after Rev 14:1-5 outlines the LAMB AND the 144 and a MYRIAD of THOUSANDS ABIDING as their appointment, continuation, covenant (standing) on the “rise or reared, hill” (mountain) as the “church” (body of believers) (Sion/Zion), SINGING (expressing) A NEW ODE (SONG) BEFORE (in view of) THE THRONE, AND BEFORE THE FOUR LIVING BEINGS, AND THE ELDERS: AND NO MAN COULD LEARN THAT SONG BUT THE HUNDRED AND FORTY AND FOUR THOUSAND, WHICH WERE REDEEMED ((BOUGHT)) FROM THE EARTH.”

These MESSENGERS are working for the Kingdom of God and are not the same ones who were the 4 and 24 Elders who layed down their bodies in 1997, though they are in view of these. Since these are speaking to the people on earth, (singing their ODE (song)) they have human vehicles to do that with, so the MIDDLE AND/OR BETWEEN HEAVEN is showing they are not yet Members of the Next Level and it would also indicate they are doing their primary “singing” IN and/or ABOUT THE MIDDLE HEAVEN. If it’s both, then being sung “in” the middle heaven would seem to be in the World Wide Web (internet). If “in” is translated as “about” then they would be singing about the “2nd Category” Do outlined of who would “go with [them] to escape the recycle of the earth and the spirits and souls, which is done by starting their metamorphosis, but overall by “STANDING FOR TI and DO – SHOWING EVERYONE what TI and DO brought and how it “compares” with the previous SONGS of Moses and of Jesus, so would be LIKE, a NEW SONG.

These are speaking to “THEM THAT DWELL ON THE EARTH, AND TO EVERY NATION, AND KINDRED, AND TONGUE, AND PEOPLE.” And they are saying the “hour of Judgment” has come and it’s time to show via service (Standing for TI and DO that includes the behaviors and ways taught by Their Next Level Kingdom Level Above Human) (worship) “work for” God – The Father, Jehovah, TI – following the LAMB, who was Do, whatever and where ever he goes, which at this time is to follow him to “heaven” on his spacecraft by putting into motion his instructions to Stand for Him.

Therefore this is yet another of the indications in the timeline that shows an instruction (disclosure/voice) inspiring certain ones to preach, evangelize, speak to others the Teachings from the incarnate Older Members, also termed “prophecy,” that John is shown will be fulfilled, though John who received these Revelations may not be the same Soul in his new human vehicle that performs this stage of the dissemination task. Whether it is or isn’t doesn’t matter. It’s the task that’s important, not who performs it and performing it is by far not limited to any one person – in fact it will be a task many perform. To measure ourselves or others in this respect is not a Next Level way so thoughts of that nature for the Active Student need to be aborted. If the incarnate Older Member told a student directly they were the returning Soul who had the vehicle that was the one known as John in the gospel of John and who went up the mountain with Jesus and Peter and James and who wrote the Revelations, then it would be so. I’m not aware of TI or Do telling that to anyone but it is possible they did. They did tell the 24 of us who remained in 1993 who our Souls were during the Moses classroom which I have reported in this book was told by Do to me as “Bezaleel.” He followed that by saying we could each look up the person and then put it aside. I bring it up in this writing as a matter of record as it serves me in no other way and if anything shows me that I could be doing much better than I am. As Jesus said, the more one is given the more is required of them. It’s a developmental training program not a country club religious membership.

Rev 14:8-13 continues to follow along with the timeline of Seals showing the TWO FALLS OF BABYLON (The U.S. with a focus on New York City) in the human Red (2nd Seal) and Black (3rd seal) “horse” manifestations in the 9/11 calamity and the 2007-8 Financial Crisis that then extends into the Tribulation Time (4th-6th seals) starting with the “Green (pale?) Horse” that because of the Ceres and Pluto revealings and many other signs puts pressure on TI and DO believers to “stand,” that will result in a mounting opposition to their stand and even the death of those that stand. (They will not be the only people targeted during the 4th-6th seal periods – as this is the fate, so to speak of all dissidents who refuse to accept the Marks of the Beast or show worship of the BEAST’s Image (The Facimili false “COPIES” provided by the Luciferians to worship), as has been described throughout prophecy and in this writing.

This same idea framed as a question as in Rev 15:4 is also shown in:

-Rev 6:17 For the great day of his wrath is come ((accompany, appear, bring, enter, fall out, go, grow, next, pass, resort, be set)); and who shall be able to stand?

So the “great day of his wrath” is COME, SET, NEXT, ACCOMPANYING those who can still choose to STAND FOR TI and DO, which is still part of the Great Tribulation period that began in earnest with the opening of the 4th Seal and 5th Seals that also becomes the overall Judgment Time which is also outlined in Rev 11:18 yet followed by the SIGNS of the OPENING OF THE TEMPLE OF GOD IN HEAVEN in Rev 11:19 shown as the Ceres lights and Chrystal (NASA is calling these “bright lights” some type of highly luminous “salt”) spire or steeple (Temple) that took place mostly starting in June of 2015, prior to the 4th seal being opened, which would include a time of a great deal of death to befall the U.S. mainland this time around as the U.S. had been largely spared from such calamity before then.

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-Rev 15:5 And after ((accompanying)) that ((afterward, to follow)) I looked, and, behold ((be aware, perceive, be sure, tell, understand)), the temple ((shrine)) (of the) tabernacle ((Older Members dwelling)) (of the) testimony ((something evidential)) in ((about, because of, for sake of, outwardly)) heaven was opened ((re-opened, intensified)):

This would be the same OPENING depicted in Rev 11:19 but with added information showing the temple (spire) tabernacle’s (Next Level Older Member dwelling place (Jesus called a dwelling but was written as “Mansion” in many translations)) EVIDENCE (TESTIMONY).

Before the Wrath in the 7 plagues/calamities (vials) are COMPLETELY poured out, the Next Level puts a seal on the vehicles who have Souls developing within to keep them away from the Luciferian Space Aliens, who will be allowed to “feed” on all other humans. These seals may also serve to keep some from dying in the calamities as they need their human vehicles to continue their being tested whether they will stand for TI and DO and against being marked by the BEAST, though some will exit their vehicles during that judgment testing tribulation period. (See Rev 16:2).

-Rev 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners ((quarters)) of the earth, holding the four winds ((417 anemos= four principal cardinal winds, four corners of heaven)) of the earth, that the wind ((a violent agitation and stream of air)) should not blow ((breath hard)) on the earth ((including occupants)), nor on the sea ((salt)), nor on any tree ((oak, mighty human)).

In this context the wind depicts agitation, both in mental and physical ways – as generated by the Next Level to stimulate opportunities for change among humans. This is related to the provision of Next Level Mind and the reality of who this garden and all it’s life forms really belongs to, interlinked to the way the Next Level fosters continuous opportunity to both attach to human roots (shown before and during the Moses classroom, by being monogamous, fair, just, responsible, restrained, committed, generous, etc.) and then to detach from those same roots when brought updates shown in the Jesus classroom. It’s my understanding that when the Next Level does anything on earth it is with this objective in mind, as earth and it’s evolutionary levels of life are all geared to the final product of potential new members in the Next Level. Therefore this appears to be a change in how hard that “wind” blows to bring the spading and recycling of the planet that provides for a new start.

-Rev 7:2 And I saw another angel ascending ((arising, climbing, (springing, going, coming) up)) from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,

Describing the angel rising from the east can seem to relate to the way the Children of Israel encampment was set up with the front entrance where Moses and Aaron and their tribe were camped in front of the Temple and Tabernacle grounds on the eastern part of the overall encampment. This relates to the way the U.S. east part of the new temple area is at the Mississippi River with Texas the first state and the final dwelling of Do and Crew being on the far west of the “temple” area in the little town of Rancho Sante Fe, near the small town of Escondido whose nearest big city is San Diego where they exited their incarnations from.

But showing the direction of this angels rising as the east, given this time period can seem very much to be referring to what was termed the “court” in Rev 11 and how it was not to be measured during the time of the Two Witnesses but would be the testing ground for the “gentiles” – those who haven’t yet progressed as much in the overcoming process as those who were migrated to the western U.S. to produce vehicles for those who were disciples of Jesus who gave their lives then. That western area is to be consumed by fire after those in the FIRST Harvest have exited by 1997. This LAST stage of harvest is referred to as the “winepress” and is largely conducted “without” (outside of) the “holy city” (the western U.S. new Jerusalem sized (1360 miles square) area.

Rev 7:3 Saying ((lay forth)), Hurt ((91 adikeo from adikos 94= injure)) not the earth ((ground)), neither the sea ((salt sea), nor the trees ((oaks)), till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

This seems to reflect back upon the time starting with the Fifth Angel’s Trumpet Sounding – what was forecast then to be set into motion at this time. In other words the 7 trumpets were heralding the setup of events for the FIRST AND for the LAST harvest periods. That is why this verse, set to the time period of the 6th Seal is shown to have been FIRST announced with some details before this time, actually starting in the 1940’s when it’s been shown the Fifth angel’s trumpet first sounded.

The events announced with that sounding showed application then in the provision of the Luciferian (fallen angel) space aliens, shown as locusts, but mammals (like horses, speaking about the physical bodies they sat on (controlled)) being released from the “bottomless pit” hide out, but then show another stage of their release by further events outlined then during this LAST Harvest time, where once again the space aliens are the main instruments of judgment over humanity in the way they lure by promoting human values. Even loving one another humanitarianism is a characteristics of Next Level members to base their behavior and ways upon, but not in exclusion of giving recognition to the creators of it all in the first place and seeking to put Then first. Even the Luciferian space aliens love their own as do humans that kill one another, as Jesus also said.

The Luciferians also like a clean environment and TI and DO said they want order in the world but all the environmentalism is for naught if we don’t recognize how the earth was provided to us by Beings who are above human who want to help us outgrow our humanism. Sensuality, is perhaps the biggest way the Luciferian space aliens keep humans asleep as a preoccupation with propagation and sexuality and the human family dominates most humans mind and energy expenditure. Here is the verse from the Fifth trumpet sounding:

Rev 9:4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt ((91 adikeo from adikos 94= to be unjust, do wrong, be injured, be an offender, do wrong)) the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but ((except)) only ((remaining, by themselves)) (those) men ((humans)) which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

Everyone without the seal of God in their foreheads – on their minds is allowed to choose to align and thus be hurt by the Luciferian Space Aliens as they are perhaps over-ripened having come to identify with the space aliens as “space brothers” or the like.

It seems by the symbolism of “grass of the earth,” “green thing” and “tree” followed by specifying it’s application to “humans” (men), the “Grass of the earth” refers to both the literal grass but primarily to the general human kingdom on earth and likewise regarding “green” to humans who have been seeded (seeded by the Next Level or tagged and/or given “deposits” of Soul containers) and have sprouted “leaves,” a further development towards becoming a “tree” that yields “fruit.”


One might suspect these are the Four Living Beings spoken of here and in Ezekiel, each of which has a crew among the 24 Elder students of the Next Level, with one of those 4 Living beings being described as having the FACE OF AN EAGLE thus the reference to how an Eagles Wings help the woman (TI) in Rev 12 when her vehicle as an offspring and thus product of the earth it attacked by the Dragon’s “flood” – depicting the way the “waters” – as human thoughts were a huge mental attack on TI – stimulated by the Dragon – Lucifer and his fellow fallen “angels.”

One of those 4 Living Beings I suspect was in the vehicle known as Lvvody, (Live-ody as in Living Being, perhaps not her accidental name choice), who had also been a nurse like TI before awakening to their task. Lvvody helped TI a great deal in her last days before TI exited the incarnate portion of the task and first became a full time “helper” when TI and DO moved to a “craft” in Blackhawk, Colorado – high in the Rocky Mountains as shown in Psalms and Isaiah and in other ways as part of the new Mt. Zion.

When the attacks from Lucifer the Dragon started to most take their toll on TI’s vehicle was about 1983 when TI had one of her eyes removed which is when the doctor said the cancer had probably spread throughout her entire body. It would be about two years later before her vehicle died. (It’s interesting how many places in Utah are named in relationship to Middle Eastern places and though the classroom was seldom in Utah, it’s the same mountains as we find even in Wyoming where the classroom first “stood” in their overcoming process depicted in Rev 12 as where the “woman” takes her “Son” and correctly assumed their “student body” after they finished their public testimony of about 1260 days by mid June of 1976.

TI and DO also directed Ollody, the resident artist to draw and airbrush paint a scene of an Earth Lab. It was depicting a working model of the Earth that was hundreds of stories tall inside the dwarf planet Pluto. Suspended at each of four corner points was a flying saucer looking object that indicated some interaction with the planet.

Notice also in these verses of Rev 7, that the angel given “to hurt the earth, sea, trees” is instructed to wait until the sixth seal events and student allegiance affirmations are completed. The particular geographic area spoken of here seems to be the areas where the altar, temple and court were located as that is the territory humans were drawn to, where the the returning Souls for or against the Next are, which is why one can see certain calamities still going on in nearly all locations besides the United States. However, starting with the exit of TI, Do and their student graduates from their incarnations, began more samples of calamities on the U.S. territory, though still very limited thus as “signs” of things to come. The earthquake during this 6th seal I suspect will be on U.S. territory.

The calamities being held back until the servants of the Next Level are sealed will also have a focus on the U.S. territory and are specified as the Seven Angels Pouring Out their Vials that conclude the tribulation period that provides the continued choice of whom to give our allegiance to but is spoken of as the Winepress and entails the much larger bloodshed of the masses.

Having determined who were on his (Do’s) “right hand” and who were on his “left” the Next Level puts a seal on those on his right. Those on his “right” are those who are consciously working for the Next Level that includes shifting their allegiance from their human family to their Next Level family that would include fellow believers. These would also be shedding all forms of sexuality and procreative programming while “standing for TI and DO” that includes sharing with others everything they said and did while they were incarnate.

-REV 7:4-8 SEALING OF THE 144,000 OR 144 AND A MYRIAD OF THOUSANDS – is a reference to the Souls from each Old Testament tribe of Israel that were saved for future planting from among the number given for the total tribe population of about “600,000 men,” though the word “thousands” here may be questionable because the Hebrew can also be translated as “families or tribes,” even though there is another Greek word translated to “tribe” in the same verses in Revelations chapter 7. I’m not sure which is the most accurate way to translate this number but the least it would seem to be is a type of sorting of stations of development among the planted “Souls” as we already know that all humans in any given vicinity where Older Members and Crew are associating with an incarnate presence are not the recipients of “Soul deposits.” So one could also interpret these number references to “12 and a myriad of thousands” from each of those twelve tribes who are SEALED – saved, redeemed.

However with that said it keeps occurring to me, when I think about which is the more accurate way to look at the number, that TI said, “all who came will return,” the context of which was referring to all who were on the spacecraft where the BRIEFING was held before they came to take human vehicles, which included most who did not have physical vehicles (that would seem to have been Next Level student level vehicles, perhaps those that were awarded to some of Jesus apostles and/or disciples who gave their lives in service.

Since these verses in Rev 7:4-8 specify 12,000 for each of the 12 tribes (not paying attention to the way it can appear there were more than 12 tribes, but trusting these Revelations as accurate) by the names given in the Moses writings (mostly as some of that record may have also become to some degree distorted) this number 12,000 would seem to be an exact number brought back. After all, the Next Level can know how many Soul deposits they make so that even if some of those souls don’t succeed in taking over a human vehicle, the Next Level could seem to still keep them for another opportunity. They can be given as many opportunities as the Next Level wants to give them.

After all, in Revelations chapter 14 these all “stand on Mount Sion/Zion” which is the parched rise from the sea area of the western U.S. and all see the LAMB and the 4 Living Beings and the four and twenty elders and have their Father’s name written on their foreheads and become unmarried and non-sexual and without guile (deceit/lies) and follow the LAMB wherever he goes which also pertains to those who awaken after TI and DO and the 38+4 have exited in the fact that they left a thorough record and do make it known to those who seek to connect with them that they are alive and well on their crafts in outer space and thus SEE them and see how they follow the example of the Do and Crew.

But the SEALING is an affirmation made by these prospective candidates that they recognize TI and DO for who they are and want to proceed towards becoming adult Members of the Next Level by seeking to be putty in Their hands and by STANDING for Them, in defense of Them, knowing that by doing so they will have to adopt all the behavior and ways TI (Throne (God), Father, Jehovah, Elohim) and Do (Throne (Lamb), Jesus, Elijah, Moses, Enoch, Adam) have guided them to, which will include their separation from their humanness in every way, according to their will to do so with every step.

As this is said, re: separating from one’s humanness and giving their all to include their life in the world, it seems to be another of the many ploys of the Luciferians to plant a thought (hiss), something to the affect of; “if one can’t commit to giving their all immediately then they would be a hypocrite to only give some of their all.” Another ploy says the only way to give your all is to do what Do and Crew did – the way they laid down their lives, and close to that time (which the Luciferians would have us think about as a human time frame, when Do said “for a short time the window would be opened to go with them” (paraphrased).

Giving one’s all is always a PROCESS. Engaging THE PROCESS is making application to TI and DO’s CREW and is getting on that road/path to even learn what ALL means by first being willing and by taking steps to fully STAND for Them, that entails STANDING for everything They said and did and maintaining that STAND until one’s exit of their human vehicle, however that occurs. Each will be rewarded by the Next Level for their “work” that includes the work of cleaning their own “robe” or “house” of human behaviors and ways as TI and DO described.

Another ploy comes up when one comes across things TI and/or Do said that they have trouble believing, so they can think they are not a good candidate or that TI and DO are not who they indicated and showed themselves to be. Those are called doubts and go with the program to have. One who doesn’t have any doubts just hasn’t recognized them yet because to get rid of our misinformation mind means getting rid of many doubts while the adversaries (Satan) – the Luciferian Space Alien souls who on their own volition want us to rebel as they did, which they will say is “seeing the truth and light.”

What one can do when they come upon a doubt is to recognize it as an “influence” (misinformation) and shoo it away from their consciousness while asking TI and DO to help them see past that doubt and then move on to keep one’s forward motion no matter how tough it gets to hold onto TI and DO’s path. Do once compared this process to holding onto a cliff when you only have your fingertips keeping you from falling. (I remember having a subtle doubt to that. I didn’t outright disbelieve him. It just didn’t feel that hard to me, but that was because I was giving into my adversary in ways I didn’t recognize by allowing certain human thoughts, feelings and behaviors, however seemingly mild or infrequent or disguised to remain in my personal “solar system” – to refer to the document TI wrote called, “The Power of Goodness.”)

Another ploy, I just indicated I allowed myself to become the victim of, by falling because of, (though among a combination of reasons for) is to think we are adopting all the behaviors and ways and then think, even subtly, we are secure and even act like we are a beacon of light for others, as we see for instance in the hierarchies and among many followers of all the religions, their sects and among various spiritually inclined and/or who can be found within contactee groups or among any and all human organizations in the human kingdom. We can be trapped in this way if we are not consciously seeking to draw from the Mind of TI and DO for virtually everything we do, though not busying ourselves with that so that it appears to ourselves and/or others that we are doing that, in other words, asking to know their thoughts and what choices they might make in any circumstance, drawing from all they left behind to document their Mind’s presence and then not assuming we got the right answer but proceeding with each step in such a way that it can be reversed as needed. Then we may be on solid ground but we students don’t actually make that determination anyway – it’s the Next Level Older Members and Crew who are monitoring each of us as we seek and it’s always an option to separate from Them however subtly.

This sealing is being put on human vehicles so whenever the vehicle they have taken over sufficiently to bring to this affirmation dies, their Soul body, in whatever stage of development it is in, would be saved from what is called “death or hell.” “Death” (Greek Thanatos) in this context seems to represent the part of the “spirit world” where some human spirits become part of when their physical vehicle dies, which is not salvaged, while “Hell” (Greek Hades) would be the physical area where Souls are sent (with or without the vehicles they currently have taken over for their primary usage), which I suspect would include those designated as the Space Aliens, because of how they originally did come from outer space environments, but who are to serve another prison term which may be juxtaposed with what’s described as the abyss or “bottomless pit” that is under the earth and/or under the sea that could be referring to underground and/or under the ice/land continent, more particularly perhaps in the Antartica vicinity. Both of these who are kept in their various areas termed DEATH AND HELL are recycled in the Lake of Fire. (See Rev 20:10-15) after the final judgment is decided for each person based on their “works” during their human experience(s). This would apply to both Spirits of the dead and Souls of the dead.

Essentially two points of view I got from TI and DO to suggest that some of the numbers are flexible are related to Their saying this entire project recorded as a “garden” to grow souls to Next Level membership is an EXPERIMENT for the Next Level and that it’s a free willed experiment so that They don’t know how many will graduate. However that would seem to be related to the overall experiment that could be extended across any number of phases or ages (seasons) in that garden experiment where TI and DO choose how many, even exactly, to give key positions to, that is in whatever departments where they grow according to their own desires continuously to have more significant service to the Next Level.

-Rev 15:6 And the seven angels came out of the temple, having the seven plagues, clothed in pure and white linen, and having their breasts girded with golden girdles.

I suspect depicting them as having their “breasts girded with golden girdles” relates them to the way the LAMB is also depicted and means he is celibate and not engaged in procreation or rearing human young any longer in:

Rev 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

Thus, all these events come to a head during this time of the 6th Seal and are the start of the “great and terrible day of the Lord” – not quite having arrived in full steam until the time period of the 7 Angels pouring out their vial’s – that show the Next Level’s WRATH, that are only “done” – brought to a climax during and after the 7th vial’s events.

SIGNS of this WRATH are the CALAMITIES the 7 ANGELS WITH VIALS pour out that were first announced and described during the prophecies in Revelation chapters 8 and 9 that included samples of each of the vials content and the human toll they take.

This verse also indicates the DAY OF WRATH (ANGER) is upon them who are living at this time, while it also shows that some can still STAND for TI and DO, or if they have not heard about TI and DO, STAND against showing their allegiance to the BEAST(s) (U.S. and E.U. and those aligned with them) by not succumbing to being MARKED in/on their;

– HEAD (possibly literally and/or as a figure as in allegiance in one’s mind as in patriotism) and/or…
– HAND (possibly literally and/or as a figure as giving service to) and/or…
– as a NUMBER (possibly as in receipt of a digital identification such as a RFID chip implant) and/or…
– as a NAME – having a title or govt badge or position and show of Nationalistic loyalty and/or…
– WORKING FOR (worship of) BEAST’s IMAGE defined as…

– SPIRITUALITY, even worship/service – belief in or because of a hologram like Fatima and there have been many IMAGES. This could even be totally photo-shopped or hoaxed in some type of CGI video production that many will see and could believe or also foster disbelief in the real Signs, in what people also call “False Flags that includes False News Stories. I’ve seen firey crosses in the sky, even what looks like an image of a city in the clouds said to have occurred in China, many sightings of all kinds of said to be alien spacecrafts.
-FALSE PROPHETS – like whoever serves in the position of the Pope and the “holy see” hierarchy, but includes all the religious and modern day Spiritual leadership and advocates that are setting themselves up as guides and facilitators of a relationship with God or a Higher Power, with Jesus, etc. even teaching others that they are serving the Real God by having a human family or building a career if they think of it that way, disregarding the only way to have a relationship with the Real God is to project our asking into the distant heavens to ask what His will would be for us and to show us that will knowing that it will result in SEPARATION from our humanness, families, roots, but trusting They will lead us through it, in a way we can handle by looking to them continuously for help as it occurs.
-FALSE GODS – elevating humans and/or humanity and/or self to the godhead, as seen in the “ye are God’s” mindset that says “god” is the COSMIC CONSCIOUSNESS or UNIVERSAL MIND (thinking of that in an etheric or space alien mindset), also described as thinking one has or has become the disciple of one who thinks they have…
-“ASCENDED” to becoming a CHRIST or in it’s Tibetan Buddhist equivalent terminology the MAITREYA that is taught can become manifest in everyone and everything, though is suppressed in most and is only waiting to be acknowledged to then make one into a “hand of God,” another facsimile way of thinking.
-RELIGIOUS IDENTITY be it a belief or non-belief system (as in Atheists, (Do indicated was a good step away from religion and spirituality but can then also become another trap), or to Paranormal or New Age forms would also seem to come under the description of the BEAST’S IMAGE.
– SPACE ALIENS – seeing some as being “good,” often termed Space Brothers, even believing them to be  participants in the creation and/or bringing of healing to the earth and/or to the human kingdom, even thinking about them as the Genesis Elohim “gods” as in Rael’s Raelians and/or forming organizations around certain Contactees and/or Channelers of space aliens and/or so called Ascended Masters.

These who have accepted these depictions of allegiance to the BEAST will automatically become the TARES Jesus said were to be pulled up during the end time. Those who have rejected these forms of show of allegiance to the BEAST will be saved and seem to fall into one of two categories – Saved and given some service in the Next Level that could include receiving a “student level” physical vehicle or as Do referred to as being “put on ice” – though not literally, but showing they are in some type of storage so they can be brought back for their next opportunity to grow – perhaps like a gardener storing bulbs for a future planting.

The Next Level’s anger is not equivalent to human anger. They are displeased by those who insist on trying to destroy the fruit in Their garden. At this point showing that anger with harsh calamities on earth are actually giving some a final chance to change their chosen allegiance though I believe the greater purpose to showing their “anger” is for the benefit of those vehicles who could still STAND for the Next Level against those who are the TARES, those planted by the Luciferian space aliens by convincing human vehicles (and the Souls who have taken over a particular vehicle) to embrace some facsimile of thinking from the Next Level). That is also the point of laying all this out well ahead of time as experiencing trauma can be a last ditch effort to stimulate an awakening in any that still have that potential.

Now that the 144,000 are sealed the full wrath of God can be unleashed in the 7 Angels pouring out their vials:

Rev 15:7 And one of the four beasts (([This is a clear mistranslation to beasts – These are Living Beings])) gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever.
Rev 15:8 And the temple ((3485 naos from naio= to dwell)) was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled.

The smoke from the glory of God refers to the way incense was to be burned with a burnt offering in the Moses classroom, perhaps turning the idea of such a sacrifice of our own flesh into a pleasant aroma for the greater reward, as service to the Next Level through our Older Member’s commission. Thus our sacrifice would be giving the “glory to God.”

But before each of the Seven Angels with Vials is fully made manifest, Revelations chapter 17 describes the overview of the Judgment of the Great City (“woman”) and how the U.S. :

It is in Rev 17 that the “woman” is defined as the “Great City that “reigned over the kings of the earth,” with those kings fully engaging their “worship of false gods” – turning their backs on the real Kingdom of God by breaking the Next Level “commandments” – engaging in the worship of false idols of gold and silver and gemstones (diamonds, etc.) obtaining and hording and waring with nations over resources, profits, markets and geographical areas, justifying murdering and thefts and thriving financially while many of the masses of people are made drunk – intoxicated by their abundance of pleasures, sensuality, sexual promiscuity, etc.

TI and DO talked about how those hormones that are stimulated by constant sexuality keep flowing through a human system and even render most unable of see the truth when it’s before them and how it is equivalent to being intoxicated by alcohol (wine). To a seasoned alcoholic one could ask them if they were intoxicated and they can be so accustomed to being drunk they don’t know how drunk they are even though they may be able to walk the straight line and not slur their words. With sexuality, it really boils down to not having what would be common sense to someone who was not intoxicated with those chemicals circulating throughout their biological systems. TI and DO said that the Luciferians kept promoting increased sexuality to keep humans unaware of the realities the Next Level that is periodically made evident.

This “woman” as with all prophecy represents several literal and figurative manifestations in reality and especially at this END TIME. Overall she is the “Mystery Babylon” – the Secret Government of the United States of America – described at first as Lady Columbia in the beginning of the country that turned into Lady Liberty and Lady Justice. She is described as “sitting on a scarlet colored “poisonous beast.” Scarlet is red and the beast is described as having seven heads and ten horns, which is the way Rev 12:3 describes the “red dragon” that is thrown down from heaven with the third – the fallen angels who go after the Rev 12 “Woman” and her “son” the Father and the one who was incarnate in the name Jesus who is BORN TO THE THRONE POSITION by performing his task of birthing their student body of “saints” into Next Level Membership, this Heavenly Father incarnate in the name “TI” started him, in the name “Do” upon in the task assignment described as the Two Witnesses.

The BEAST constituents are humans and human equivalent space aliens who seek to create the New World Order, because all the Souls who fell away from Next Level student membership were let out of their prison cells for yet another opportunity to change, though it may have been next to impossible anymore and they seek out humans to help them try to escape the recycling and gain new members by stealing souls.

These space aliens provide the catalyst for those Souls who hadn’t fallen to grow more by dealing with their influence – trying to take over human vehicles when the Two Older members came incarnate and after they exited those incarnations by using the same Mind they left behind as available through their writings, video’s and audios and the “backside of their book” (Bible) record interpretation, largely provided in this “little book” – little as compared to what TI and DO and their graduate crew of 38 wrote from “within” (reference Rev 5:1 and Rev 10).

The woman is described as arrayed in Purple (blue) and Scarlet (red) the colors of the New York City flag and is later described as a “queen” and has a “golden cup in her hand” – a way of saying the person most fulfilling this latest position over the BEAST has the reigns of the financial system of the U.S. which brings up New York City because that is where the Federal Reserve bank headquarters is located that may have the biggest gold reserve in the world in it’s vaults and is where some of the biggest investment banks are based on Wall Street. We also know that the two great Falls of this Babylon the U.S. and it’s great city of Babylon – NYC, occurred with the 2001 World Trade Center attacks and the 2008 Financial Crisis. Another Gold vault was located in Deutschebank under the World Trade Center tower 1 and the pentagon strike hit the budget office that just so happens vanished all the records that were under scrutiny on 9/11/2001 to the tune of many trillions of dollars not accounted for.

This has all taken place during the Red Horse and Black Horse reign and will come to a head with the Green (pale) horse reign starting in earnest in 2017 as the next president is about to be ushered into office that at this point will be either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump or Bernie Sanders, all of which are linked to NYC in major ways, while Bernie is from the green mountain state. These descriptions in Rev 17 also match the Statue of Liberty design in a number of ways so it seems the “great city” is depicting America, but in specific ways NYC and Los Angeles. NYC was also was the first capital of the U.S. and is the home of the United Nations and like Los Angeles is significantly influenced by Jewish people at the helm of the Banks, Media (including the entertainment industry) and government.

The reference to the seven heads being the seven mountains wouldn’t make sense to just refer to Seven foundations of power as the prophecy would have been more direct to refer to them as kingdoms. Therefore there must be a significance to the use of the term “mountains,” so one might consider the seven continents comprising the Earth’s land mass but even more so perhaps 7 underground hiding places, one in each continent where the forerunner space aliens who took the helm of each of these G7 powers had been hiding during the Noah flood, facilities that may have been developed during the end of the previous civilization, described as Lemuria (mu) and/or Atlantis.

Of these Seven, five failed/fell so would seem to be the United Kingdom (Great Britain that includes Scotland), France, Germany, Italy and Japan – who were destroyed during WWI and WWII (though there are several parallel interpretations further back in history, replacing Japan with Spain that all had global wide empires during the time the U.S. was being set up. Going back before Jesus incarnation can be made to work as well but is not in the most direct context as we are in the last days. The context of Rev 17 is this time period of the Judgment and Avenging hour during the 6th Seal’s opening right before the 7 angels pour out their vials. That would be the 40 year period starting at the First Seals completion period, at the exit of Do and Crew’s incarnation from March of 1997 to approx. 2004-2007. Most all Next Level events start and stop over a period of about 3 1/2 years in between larger cycles of 40 years (hour) and Seal periods of about 7-8 years (thus a combination of 7 seals over 49-50 years and a season as 2000 years.

Verse Rev 17:1 starts by referring to one (or the FIRST of the Seven Angels which had the Seven Vials (plague/calamity (Wrath of God) instigation) as showing the “judgment of the the great whore” thus is before all the 7 vials are poured out in the timeline.

By the way, these Seven Angels with Seven Calamities/Plagues (Vials) are each represented in what the Lord said would happen to those that disobeyed his commandments which mimic that plagues enacted on the Egyptians when the Lord was compelling them to release the Tribe of Israel. These can be found primarily in Deuteronomy chapter 28.

Verses Rev 17:2-9 describe how the Kings of the earth indulge in “false idol worship” with the “woman,” becoming “drunk” on the “wine of their fornication.” The woman is described as being shown in the “wilderness” – what the U.S. was at that time and how she was sitting on a “scarlet colored beast full of the names of blasphemy with seven heads and ten horns. This compares with the BEAST that came out of the bottomless pit during the time of the fifth angels trumpet sounding in the 1940’s-50’s time period that goes on to “subdue” (said as overcome) the Two Witnesses – TI and DO as shown through the state controlled media against Bo and Peep (the silly sounding names they chose to use when they realized some wanted to become their students and go with them, leaving all behind to do so).

This is also the BEAST shown in Rev 13:1 rising out of the sea, an indication where the opening to the bottomless pit was and demonstrating why there were many sightings of UFO’s descending into the Great Lakes and other large bodies of water that could very well include Antarctica which is in a big way ice thus frozen sea. This BEAST is given power by the “dragon” who is described as the “devil” (slanderer, false accuser, who opposes God, prince of demons) and the “old serpent” (reference to the same one who deceived Adam and Eve and Satan (adversary, Beelzebub, enemy of God, full of falsehood and malice) in Rev 12:9). One head of this BEAST is the U.S. and it’s secret government – the “mystery Babylon” that developed over time to cover up the space alien revealings and the technology some in the U.S. are using to advance their own technology from having. The woman is described as dressed in purple and scarlet. The Beast is described as having 7 heads that are like “mountains” which refers to the current lead nations of which the U.S. is the biggest also described as having been wounded, in what I believe was in the 9/11 attack.

In Rev 16:4-6 the Plague from the third angel pouring out their vial upon rivers and fountains of waters give rise to “bloodshed” and shows how these people, who are the human vehicles and space alien Souls using human and hybrid human equivalent vehicles are the product of the migration and resurrection of the unjust – Jesus spoke about saying would return (“those who pierced him”), the “tares” sown by the enemy of the Next Level, the Luciferian space aliens (Souls who renegaded), being the same Souls who have shed the blood of saints and prophets all along even to date as a lot of this shedding of blood takes place during the 4-6th seal time periods. These who do the blood shedding are also those who have accepted the Mark of the BEAST and/or work for (worship) the BEASTS “IMAGE” – people’s religious and spiritual self righteousness no matter their label, who work for (worship) false idols (False Gods, False Christians) often characterized as in the accumulation of wealth and/or believe in a facsimili “copy” illusion of the Next Level as in a hologram like Fatima.

This WOMAN is a symbol of a generator that was initially encapsulated as the “city and temple of/in Jerusalem” shown initially in the start of the U.S. as Lady Columbia that became Lady Liberty largely made up of the influence of the 10 Lost Tribes of Israel who were scattered to the four corners of the earth, with the U.S. the last fourth quarter. She is localized as Babylon focused on New York City as the financial center of the BEAST America that had two major falls before this time:

Rev 17:6 And I saw the woman (([also in this context= Jerusalem (the Kingdom of Israel)])) drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered ((2296 thaumazo from thauma 2295= to wonder)) with great admiration ((2295 apparently from a form of theaomai 2300= to wonder concretely, looking more closely at));

The blood of the saints would be anyone who died on behalf of the truth that TI and DO and Jesus taught, which would include Jesus’ reference to Jerusalem as those that made claim to being the descendants of the Tribes of Israel who Jesus said, “killed the prophets and stonest them which are sent unto thee” as they also did to Jesus and his disciples and is the reason given by Jesus that the Kingdom of God would be taken away from them and given to a new people and why their “house” (dwelling, and Next Level Family relationship) would be rendered waste (made desolate) and they would only be visited by someone sent to them representing the Lord. There are two ways to see the usage of “Jerusalem” and I believe both are applicable. A city is nothing but an area of human habitat that is located in a specific place. Therefore Jesus was saying he would not be returning to those people of that ethnicity who the Next Level had been nurturing til then, which would include that vicinity, to have his next classroom. They would have to receive his next stage of lesson plan from someone acting on his behalf.

Nevertheless, Do examined going to Israel, even with the student body, several times while I was in the classroom and eventually did travel there with Lvvody and Jnnody sometime after I left them, thus between October of 1994 and when they exited their incarnations in March of 1997. I read that He said he didn’t feel his Older Members Mind there any longer so only stayed a short time. As I’ve been saying all along, neither TI or Do used scripture as their instruction of what to say and/or do. They referred to those records for clues on next steps and occasionally to illustrate certain lessons, saying the Next Level worked hard to preserve the accuracy of what Jesus had said, to be a help to whoever returned and to their students. Had they based what they said and did on those records, they probably never would have visited Israel because it seems clear from several things Jesus said, that when he returned it would not be to that people and geography.

Mat 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
Mat 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
Mat 23:39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

Rev 17:7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.

The mystery of the woman refers to the SECRET GOVERNMENT – Babylon, again centered on NYC and LA which it seems involves the Wall Street Banker Conglomerates and the entertainment industry, largely headed by descendents from the 10 tribes of Israel that went against the Next Level and are those who “pierced” Jesus who Jesus said would also be returning when he with the saints returned to finish their overcoming process. We can limit these to “Jews” because those descendants intermingled with gentiles whenever they were scattered and especially pertaining to those who escaped Germany during the WWII migration to the west – and essentially the United States where they began to have more and more influence and rose to positions of power in government, in entertainment, in banking and in corporations alongside their counterparts in Europe to form the basis of the One World Government that merged with the Eastern cultures in India, Buddhism and Hindu for the New Age Movement that is also prevalent especially in the Baltic states of northern Europe that amounts to the “little horn” of Daniel and is all summed up as the Seven Head and Ten Horn BEAST these transplanted Jews, as the Woman is carried by, even the Israeli state is carried by.

Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

I believe this is indicating the BEAST as Souls who like all souls come from the DEPOSITS the Next Level made into human vehicles that did experience enough growth to where they had some elementary service to the Next Level where they were provided with spacecrafts to fulfill certain tasks (as Watchers), but in this case are the ones who the Next Level eventually sentenced to prison under the earth (Hades/hell), which it seems included whichever physical bodies they propagated by whatever form of hybridizing or commandeering during the times they were allowed to circulate among certain parts of the earthy population. Therefore, they “were” would seem to refer to their having once “existed” to the degree they initially pleased the Next Level as student members because that’s what “existing” meant. The word Jehovah means, “I Am” or “I Exist” because as long as we seek to be counted among the Next Level Older Members “Family” they will help us do so, but that means trying to change our behavior and ways to their behavior and ways, as they help us do so by the current lesson plan provided by each most currently present Older Member.

So these who fell from that relationship, who TI and DO said were given many chances to recover from, by their own doing eventually reached a point of no return. They lost whatever Next Level Mind they had and/or it was taken away as Jesus indicated would happen to those who don’t take advantage of repeated opportunities to change and that renders them waste but even waste can be of some use to the Next Level to stimulate the growth of others who are coming up. Thus they were allowed to come up from that underground imprisonment and it even seems this was yet another chance for some of them to change, to potentially “exist” again, however slim chance there might be. Existence is not automatic. It’s a forward motion that only exists as long as we keep it moving forward, which Next Level members thrive upon doing – having tasks for their Older Members. Humans experience this and Jesus even referred to this process in a parable of how if we can be trusted by an employer or king or someone in the human kingdom who has a position of leadership, then we can learn to be entrusted by Older Members.

It’s only the Luciferian misinformation that would look down on providing service to “God” as if one is then being controlled, when the fact is that humans are very much being controlled but at times don’t know it because they can’t always see their handlers because they are either in a discarnate condition or on a spacecraft that’s cloaked and are subject to remote mind control technologies that he Next Level doesn’t practice but that Do said the Luciferians do.

Rev 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

So the Seven Heads are Seven Kingdoms (rises above the plains) who at various times dominated parts of the seven continents of the earth and still do via their financial and military strength (horns) seen as the Global 7 (G7).

Rev 17:10 And (there) are ((agree, be, dure, X is, were)) seven ((affirmed, committed)) kings ((foundations of power)): five (are) fallen ((alighted; to fall, fail, fall (down), light on)), and one ((a(-n, -ny, certain), + abundantly, man, one (another), only, other, some)) is ((2076 esti= are, be(-long), call, X can(-not), come, consisteth, X dure for a while, + follow, X have, (that) is (to say), make, meaneth, X must needs, + profit, + remaineth, + wrestle)), (and the) other ((more, one (another), (an-, some an-)other(-s, -wise))) is ((2064 erchomai= accompany, appear, bring, come, enter, fall out, go, grow, X light, X next, pass, resort, be set)) not yet ((hitherto not, (no…) as yet, not yet)) come ((erchomai)); and when ((as long (soon) as, that, + till, when(-soever), while)) (he) cometh ((erchomai)), he ((they)) must ((1163 dei= it is (was, etc.) necessary (as binding)= behoved, be meet, must (needs), (be) need(-ful), ought, should)) continue ((3306 meno= abide, continue, dwell, endure, be present, remain, stand, tarry (for), X thine own)) a short space ((3641 oligos= + almost, brief(-ly), few, (a) little, + long, a season, short, small, a while)).

The “one that dure for a while” could refer to Russia who was part of the G7 but was cast out because of their annexing of Crimea, yet remains a partner to the U.S., in their space programs, seemingly having the same recognition of the reality of the space alien agenda, I imagine next to none in government trust the agenda of, though some have been convinced some are good aliens and that the Next Level (who they don’t know are the creators) are the bad aliens coming, which of course, as these are actually seen by the Next Level as weeds, planting the “tares” are the creatures who the Next Level will extinguish so they can start a new civilization fresh.

Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

This BEAST is indicated to have it’s origin from the seven which means the BEAST came from the seven heads. This seems to relate to the way “another beast” comes up from earth (human kingdom) that “exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him”:

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
Rev 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

The first BEAST’s deadly wound would be the 9/11 WTC attacks that appeared to be healed from and did what it was to provide – the emergence of total power for the Mystery Babylon – the U.S. secret government that is the “BEAST.”

Rev 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

The one hour spoken of here is the “judgment and tribulation hour” that precedes the full wrath of God as shown by the Seven Plagues (vials) being poured out on the world. This time period seems to start around the turn of the millenium (2000) and would mark about a 40 year period of time for all to be finished by, when the BEAST and FALSE PROPHET are dissolved in the Lake of Fire that then starts the 1000 years before Lucifer himself (and perhaps his associates) are recycled as well with the areas of the spirit world, termed DEATH and HELL where the discarnate spirits and souls are.

Rev 17:13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

This battle (war) seems to be referring to the way these 10 horns are waging war by diverting monies to all the technical development programs they hope they can use to literally physically combat what they think are an evil space alien race. Some humans have embraced the spin from the Space Aliens that there are good and bad space aliens. Naturally the ones who think they are the good space aliens want to preserve the earth to include their human DNA pool they draw from for their hybridization projects that they don’t seem to talk about to their those humans who have become their contactees and channelers and what are false prophets to the Next Level. At the same time they don’t mind destroying the earth if it forwards their agenda to do so, which we see is the way of the humans who are among the 7 heads and 10 horns (hairs) of the BEAST.

For instance by forwarding the development and usage of nuclear energy and the development of weaponry, as they know they need to have certain elements that can serve them in space travel and colonization efforts. And they justify the weaponry to wage the war against the Next Level who they deem another race like them, but with more technology in their reach. Of course, the Next Level can be seen like that, though they are not really a race, a characterization of creatures in their creation because Next Level Members are not mammals, one of the reasons humans with souls provided them who are making application for membership in their Above Human Evolutionary Level must cease mammalian behavior and ways while they are still in the human mammalian evolutionary kingdom because in doing so they are rising above those characteristics and growing the Mind/Spirit “muscle” into a Being that can be moved into a physical vehicle that doesn’t have mammalian capacity.

There is no contest with the Next Level, yet the humans and space aliens prepare for it. It’s not the same battle as was first depicted in Rev 12:7-16 as that was the FIRST HARVEST battle that is a battle for “souls” with the “dragon” – the Luciferian space aliens, that only involves humans in the way they put out propaganda against the Next Level and TI and DO in particular. The battle for souls is ongoing, though with a different set of potential students, depicted as those called the remnant, or remaining (after the First Fruit have exited (been harvested) who are also referred to as those who “keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”

Among this FIRST Harvest group are some that begin their “metamorphosis” as they become aware that TI and DO were the incarnate return for the FIRST harvest as their primary task but that in the follow up, others can show their allegiance to their Next Level – Kingdom of God/Heaven by adopting all they taught to the degree they choose and who are rewarded accordingly but will be sacrificing their lives by “standing for TI and DO” because a degree of that standing includes what Jesus taught was in the “laying down of their human lives,” because they will be taken to task by the religious leaders who will call TI and DO anything but who they really are, just as they did with Jesus. These adversaries are the return of the souls who saw to it that Jesus and his disciples were killed – in new human vehicles just as Jesus said would happen.

Some religious leaders will justify stopping TI and DO’s truth about Jesus from being shared, even by killing those who are standing to stop them and their influence on their congregations – thinking doing so was stopping their “blasphemy” so justifies killing in the name of their “God” who will be a false ALIEN/STRANGE God they have become in allegiance with while referring to these false Gods by the same records and names in the records.

Rev 17:15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where ((the place)) the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

These would be the “melting pot” of people who populate the geography of the United States (BEAST) which is the “great city” – the “woman” named the “secret (government) (Mystery) Babylon” sits upon as it’s “queen” personified as New York City whose most influential populous are linked to the 10 tribes, referred to as the Kingdom of Israel (after the tribe of Juda and Benjamin broke off), also described in records as a woman, “Jerusalem” who in this END TIME are taken over by “souls” who dropped out of a previous Next Level overcoming of humanness effort, some of whom became instrumental mounting their hatred for Jesus and his students, who were brought to this new land in the America’s who would position (sit) among the elite in the great New York City, whether still in Jewish but often mixed with Christian (Roman Catholic) and often the catch all “new age spiritual” to include unconventional Buddhists, paranormalists, pagans, gnostics, atheists, etc.

Rev 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, (([sell their souls and bodies idolizing themselves for their accomplishments and accumulation of treasure (money), wealth and how it sets themselves apart and seemingly above others as a provider or big influence and motivator that has power over others])) and shall make ((abide, agree, appoint, X avenge, band together, bring (forth), cause, commit, execute, exercise, fulfill, gain)) her ((their own)) desolate ((lay waste)) and naked (([make their own nature exposed])), and shall eat ((consume)) her ((their own)) flesh, and burn her ((their own)) with fire.

Jesus was considered to be the “horn of salvation” (Luk 1:69) and there are SEVEN SPIRITS the Lamb sends to all the earth’s inhabitants who are described as “having horns and vision (eyes)” (Rev 5:6) so would be depicted in other references as part of the Next Level’s “army” who are on the ground incarnate, having taken over human vehicles with the Lamb and with the Father, (since He too came incarnate to get his “son,” the Lamb started in his task to bring their student body through their “spirit/mind birth” during this third trimester.

“Horns” are used to describe these because they are Next Level SOLDIERS/ARMY that will give their vehicle’s life in service of their Older Member(s) (initially prepared for that service by the first trimester lesson plan that provided four lambs horns mounted on the four corners of the altar of fire where Aaron was instructed to sprinkle blood from the sacrificed animal upon). Horn is from the primary word for “hair of the head” that identifies them as operating through human mammalian vehicles. Adult Members of the Next Level don’t have hair or horns anywhere on the vehicles that are grown and provided to student or new adult Next Level members to use.

This use of “horns” is not referring to current Next Level Members. The Great Red Dragon in Rev 12:3 is depicted to have Seven Heads and Ten horns and diadems (crowns) on his heads, meaning they are BOUND to what they have become and are behind the Kings of the earth. In Rev 13:1 the BEAST – also described as mystery Babylon – the secret largely silent government behind the U.S. government seen by most as the only government, is shown to rise out of the sea by the sandy shore. This Beast is described as rising up out of the bottomless pit – in other words the SPACE ALIENS, and the human individuals and organizations that came about because of that space aliens (who are all the human vehicles used by the Luciferian fallen angel souls). The first such organization seems to have been the CIA during this latest rise of the BEAST which became the secret government that was allowed to clandestinely take over after Do and Crew exited in 1997 as shown in Rev 13:1’s BEAST rising out of the sea:

Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns (2768 keras= from primary kar (hair of the head))), and upon his horns ten crowns ((1238 diadema= a “diadem” bound, be in bonds, knit, tied, wound about the head)), and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.


The “ten horns” are “ten kings without a kingdom,” essentially the western financial ministers (G10), the wealthy royal families the ministers represent, that are largely rooted in the Banking Families throughout Europe but with their descendants, counterparts, representatives and constituency throughout the U.S., still maintaining their power and influence and who become the instruments of the New World Order Agenda that “lays waste,” to the New York/Washington D.C. axis of power, that is sat upon by the “great city” (woman), that was originally thought of as Jerusalem, while today’s equivalent is Los Angeles and the U.S. southwest because that is where TI and DO returned to, so moved the Kingdom of God to include the New City Jerusalem by doing so. These are largely subservient to the heads of the beast, the Seven Kingdoms who became global-wide in their ambitions, colonization and dominion.

It financial crisis that lays waste to the U.S. shown by the trillions of dollars of indebtedness the U.S. is in – mostly beholding to foreign banks. These Ten Horns hate the Jewish leadership of the U.S. Beast (as the Jews are the biggest group who personify the Woman) who get their power, as does the BEAST from the Luciferian souls via their discarnate and incarnate (space alien) presence.

The TWO FALLS of the 9/11 attacks and the global financial crisis of 2008-9are the biggest examples of what renders the U.S. a wasteland, though does stimulate more openness to the Next Level’s reality for some but for a majority makes them side with many factions who are against the status quo.


Here being made naked is an indirect result of the HORNS agenda because it becomes obvious to those who still have eyes to see by and see the handwriting on the wall because the deceptions and coverups employed to divert attention from the genuine agenda become obvious to anyone who pays attention which becomes a test for one and all in whether or not to participate in:


In other words, these Ten, are so to speak, “in bed with” the whore – using her (flesh), employing her powers and influence, profiteering from her every move. Like said, they are of one mind and that mind is the Luciferian mind.


By Making her desolate, bankrupt and poverty stricken, USING her flesh for more profiteering all over the planet and the exposing of her true agenda many enemies are made and many are within it’s own shores because it had become the worlds biggest “melting pot” – the Next Level plan to have every opportunity for every Soul returning to become exactly what they wanted to become that would end up being their own self-judgment of whether to be for or against the true kingdom of God.

In Rev 11:13 the “shaking” (earthquake) says a “tenth part of the city fell.” Since NYC as the main group personified as the Woman the World Trade Centers being one of those ten horns – financial kingdom centers fell literally though the BEAST still survived it.

The 10 financial “horns” – instruments of power to set agendas and pay for propaganda and coverups and trade pacts and space based weapons systems and monitors and communications, etc. took a fall from it’s surface operations to be able to divert monies into what they wanted to do to combat the alien threat and/or hide underground from it or escape the earth altogether.

(For earlier interpretation of Revelations chapter 17 and the relationship to the 9/11 FALL and Injury to the one of the Seven Heads (the U.S. head) and the FALL of the financial “horn” see section: III.D.10. REV 11:13)

Isa 9:18 For wickedness burneth as the fire: it shall devour the briers and thorns, and shall kindle in the thickets of the forest, and they shall mount up like the lifting up of smoke.

(For further interpretation of the Ten Horns see section: III.D.10.A. THE TEN HORNS OF THE BEAST.)

So the Global Ten or Group of Ten (G10) most seems to embody the BEASTS Ten Horns. Switzerland was even added a short time ago and the name stayed G10, which may have even been a Next Level instigation to keep to the prophecy. They are the finance ministers of: Belgium, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, Sweden, The United Kingdom, and The United States and the eastern bank of Japan. Since these are described as part of the BEAST, which represents the combined manifestation of the human equivalent Space Aliens working with, influencing and pressuring by their presence and agenda’s for the U.S. to create a “secret govt” “Mystery Babylon” to keep from the public the truth, as the U.S. mounts their strategy to war against them – even thought of as the “bad” verses “good” space aliens. I believe the Next Level’s showing of the cityscape of lights on CERES and the earth like conditions on Pluto and many other events in the heavens is stimulating a huge escalation of the alien agenda that includes showing the public more of what they are becoming aware of, let by online media such as Yahoo news.

This, along with all the unseen things that are happening is the equivalent of setting fire on the U.S. in terms of people feeling pressures, worried about the future, having short tempers and more prone to violent outburst’s as well as standing up for others rights, etc. that make for more confrontations with others – and especially with the governments police who are being shown are often steeped in corruption while striking out at those who are rebelling violently, if only in word or by not cooperating or acting subservient to the authority figures that can inflame the power enforcers if they too are unstable or unsettled in what’s happening and their participation. In other words we are all in a caldron and the heat is building and then becomes violent attacks – gun battles, mass shootings, and many other forms of killing and rebelling from the status quo whether it’s thought out or not, whether it’s organized or not.

TI and DO said of this time that each human will become what they believe. From what some killers have said, they knew they were doing wrong by killing people but they felt they had to give in to that force – become it’s channel to enact justice upon others that deserved that justice.

Rev 17:17 For God hath put ((adventure, granted, shew, yield)) in ((as, by)) their ((their own)) hearts ((thoughts, feelings (mind))) to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

The Next Level takes advantage of the humans and human equivalent space aliens desires and agenda to fulfill their prophecy as they know what these lower forces want to do right from the time they let them out of their bottomless pit underground “prison cells” hiding places, though the particular ways in which their efforts will be made manifest in language and projects can vary so the Next Level has a big job to monitor and respond to.

Rev 17:18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

As shown, it’s the U.S., also as the fourth part of the world, that is to experience a great deal of death as shown starting during the “judgment hour” (approx. 2004 and the fourth seal time period in Rev 6:8, beginning more around 2017), that is bringing judgment upon “herself,” thus shown as being “burned with fire,” from sea to shining sea, thus from the west coast to the east that is a result of the actions of the BEASTS “ten horns” – the military and financial powers stimulated to escalate their actions all over the world that comes to a head during the 9/11 attacks and the financial crisis that stimulate hatreds of American’s by many peoples, while still gleaning profits because of. The U.S. credit rating lost it’s AAA rating around 2012 and there are disputes with Germany over the gold stored in the U.S. federal reserve – the U.S. isn’t giving it back to Germany when they asked for it, saying they changed the numbering system on the gold bars which for some reason made it complicated to determine which gold bars belonged to Germany, which makes no sense. The U.S. public is only fractionally aware of such things and there are no doubt many more. Only a very few allies went along with the Iraq war. Millions demonstrated against the U.S. and Great Britain’s invasion all over Europe and in the U.S. to no avail.

Revelations chapter 18 continues to show this “burning with fire” via humans in their governments as the “falling twice… of Babylon the Great”:

Verse Rev 18:1 indicates a lighted spacecraft (angel) comes down from heaven with great power and glory, which is shown in Rev 14:6, where the “lighten” is provided via the internet or middle heaven starting with Do and Crew’s 7th Thunder – their web site that shortly thereafter starts the 2nd seal’s start of the Judgment Hour in 2004.

Rev 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen ((fail, fall, fly)), is fallen, and is become ((generate)) the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
Rev 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

This is directly in sync with the third seal starting around 2008 as the timeline of:

Rev 14:8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

Babylon falling twice can even relate to “lighting/flying down” as in airplanes hitting the World Trade Centers – speaking Babylon as the “great city” spoken of before as the Woman and calls it “a habitation of devils and the cage/prison for every foul spirit and of every unclean and hateful bird.” Any city is not about it’s incorporation or even it’s boundaries – it’s made up of people, so this woman represents a “great people” and the only people during this civilization the Next Level has referred to as “great” are those from the 12 tribes of Israel. It was reported days after the 9/11 attacks that Israel and Germany and Russia and other nations warned the U.S. of the pending attacks and FBI agents were informed of using airplanes to attack buildings, even though G.W. Bush said such was unimaginable and Secretary of State, Condoleezza Rice overlooked or didn’t think were important or unusual or ignored the memos about Bin Laden’s pending attack – even though that may have been scapegoating Bin Laden who was allegedly filmed soon after the attack saying it wasn’t his doing.

Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

This sounds very much like where Jesus said:

Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand ((2476 histemi= make a stand, make firm, stand by, stand ready or prepared, be of steadfast mind, don’t hesitate or waiver from)) in the holy ((full of awe)) place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
Mat 24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains ((rise, mount, hills)):

This would seem to apply most to the way the Middle East – Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Yemen, Somalia, Iran, Lebanon, Israel, Palestine, Jordan and others have been in a perpetual condition of great unrest and war escalated by the U.S. and Great Britain by invading Afganistan, Iraq and with France in Libya and Russia in the Ukraine, Chechnya then Syria, assisted by and others with regular, of late, bombing and regular drone strikes, ground troops often called advisers, contract soldiers

However the “calamities” (plagues) are to be most evident in the U.S. soon after these two “falls.”

Simultaneously, since there was no reference to Judea being interpreted in a non-physical way (as was the case in Rev 11 regarding where the Two Witnesses are subdued (overcome) by the BEAST, said as the “spiritual” Sodom, Egypt, and where Jesus was crucified) this seems to apply to what today is called Palestine which people are being alerted to flee from when they see the foul, detestable, idolizing people/nation being laid to waste as happened in NYC from the 9/11 attacks that brought down or resulted in bringing down three of the skyscrapers (towers) in that 7 building complex.

We can recall that the name “Babylon” is the name on the forehead of the “woman” (great city NYC) so is actually most in representation of the United States of America as it was initially referred to as “mystery Babylon” in Rev 17:5 where it is portrayed in detail. And in particular the word used in most translations is “mystery” from Greek Strong’s number: 3466 “musterion” derived from muo= “to shut the mouth,” a secret, through the idea of silence so once again this is the “secret or shadow U.S. government” composed of people mostly in the military and other power centers that began essentially in the 1940’s and 1950’s with the start of the CIA and the reported “MJ-12” group formed to plan the coverup of the space alien physical presence on and in the earth as had been very well established during those decades in the U.S.

Rev 18:5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

The biggest and most obvious example of how the USA’s sins have reached into outer space (heavens) was when NASA shot a missile at comet Tempel1 and was photographed to have caused a sizable crater in it on July 4, 2005. It was shown live over the internet. I watched it. Another example is in how the spacecraft named Cassini is supposed to be crashed into Saturn and it has nuclear powered systems.

Then there are the thousands and thousands of probes and satellites and such sent up by NASA, ESA, Russia, India, Japan and other space agencies. I don’t know exactly whether the Next Level considers all these organizations do as the “sins” in this context. They are certainly not doing what they do for the Next Level so it’s all Luciferian driven agendas that play upon humans seeking to exemplify their accomplishments even in competition with the Next Level consciously or not (just like in the tower of babel story) and any profitability and prestige and new budgets they can get to allow them to tinker in outer space which also has the affect of becoming a type of “poison” to observers as people aspire to enter into those careers or hobby in astrophysics that influences them to become more and more invested in seeing in the limited way many in those science communities can see or if they can see more, become so entrenched in that mindset with their income and social status that they often don’t care to look at the entire picture any further so they cut themselves off from seeking and paying attention to what someone like TI and DO said.

Rev 18:6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.

The use of “cup” has to do with what we drink and consume – what we must accept to continue in Next Level service but in this case the ramifications of choices people make on who to serve between the BEAST (as Jesus called “Mammon”) and the Next Level (Deity. “God,” Kingdom of God), for many by deciding whether to believe in TI and DO or not. The vials in Rev 16 the angels pour out are actually also translated to “bowls” or CUPS thus these seven plagues aka calamities are the Next Level’s wrath being POURED OUT that manifests by the death of a third of mankind from from at least two primary locations around the world – the areas of the old and new Babylonian related Empires.

Note, how “double” is prescribed just like there will have been by this time two major blood baths of those in allegiance to the Next Level surrounding Old and New Jerusalem – Middle east/E.U. and USA during and after the time of Jesus and after the time of TI and DO’s incarnation that is met with “double” the “reward” for those who instigated that sacrifice from those who gave their lives to Jesus and then TI and DO. Thus for every plague/calamity listed it would primarily affect two geographies, two peoples with I imagine two events for each.

Rev 18:7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

The U.S. and E.U. are filled with people that are at the height of self admiration, arrogance, self described intellectualism, and self described righteousness (secular humanist, spiritual and/or religious) in all factions of society. It is indicated that she, the “great city” – the U.S. with it’s New York city to Los Angeles, California axis, sits as a “queen,” but not a widow (as “she” is “married” – joined with another “city,” I suspect would be the E.U. (Brussels) and Israel/Jerusalem axis and shall see no sorrow because she doesn’t choose to see the sorrows she has stimulated and fosters. She puts on a happy face to every tragedy to show the world how she’s recovered. For instance, it’s largely thought the U.S. has recovered from the 9-11 attacks of 2001 and that the economy has improved since the financial crisis of 2008-9. That’s what is widely reported on the corporate BEASTLY media.

There have been recent examples of this putting on a happy face. In July of 2016 after two more of many before it, shootings by police of African American unarmed men, essentially for minor traffic violation apprehensions by fearful and trigger happy police, an x-military sniper gunned down twelve police – not harming anyone, at a peaceful “Black Lives Matter” rally in Dallas, Texas in which five of the police officers were killed and eventually the sniper who was an African American who said he was after white police officers to avenge these and other police killings.

A big televised funeral ceremony was held attended by a number of heads of state to include George W. Bush and his wife Laura, Barack Obama and his wife Michelle who were standing next to one another all holding hands during a solemn music arrangement done with bagpipes. (By the way, before this part of the ceremony Bush gave a speech. In it he gave the names and a little bio of each of the five slain officers. One of them he said was an avid Texas Ranger Baseball team fan and one could hear what sounded like quite a roar of laughter and/or applause for that point). Nevertheless during the bagpipes Bush was swinging his arms back and forth quite rigorously with the tempo of the bagpipes taking Laura and Michelle’s hands with his, and he have a very jovial look on his face as if this was a celebration of a sporting event, seeming to even be singing something while the others were all moreorless stone faced and not seeming to pay attention to him until it was nearly over and Michelle and Barack looked his way and smiled. People wondered if alcohol played a part.


Rev 18:8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day ((hemera= sit, time)), death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

There seems to be a turning point expressed in this verse in that both the “plagues shall come in one day” and it’s the “Lord God who judgeth her” which is different from the “burning with fire” from Rev 17:16, that is results from the Ten Horns enacting their globalization agenda that is met with consternation by many of the people, especially those on the far right and far left, especially those who believe in these Revelations prophecy manifestations (though not necessarily believe in the One True Kingdom of God because many have bought the constructed misinformation about Jesus, etc.).

Thus this marks the time the “Lord God” is delivering the specific “plagues/calamities” announced (trumpeted/sounded) and introduced by certain partial manifestations as shown beginning in Revelations chapters 8 and 9, but now during this 6th and 7th seal time made fully manifest with the U.S. a primary recipient (where they were kept back in part from the U.S. territories before now) as shown in Revelations chapter 16.

As is the Next Level way, They have shown Their power all along, all throughout history, in diverse parts of the world with a clear increase in size and frequency of earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanic eruptions, hurricanes, typhoons, huge hail stones, drought and resulting forest fires, threatening near miss asteroids, meteors that cause minor damage to an entire city (as in Chelyabinsk, Russia in 2013, fireballs that don’t act like anything else hence the new name as they appear propelled (as opposed to having a directly falling trajectory), odd occurrences in space; strange geometric shapes that look like human satellites, but hundreds of times bigger in the sun-scape, the cityscape of lights on Ceres with the crystalline 5-10 mile tall tower that looks like a tree without branches, Pluto’s surprising earth like environment, moon bases, pyramid and tower looking structures on planets and on the ocean floors, comets with companion objects (Hale Bopp, 2013 Pan Starrs, ISON), and many more events. However, these 7 vials to be poured out are the delivery of the “cup” of the wrath of God on not only the world but now primarily on the geography and people of the USA where this BEAST has risen from to become the global empire. Those who are most part of this sphere of influence, even as equivalent to a spouse “wife” would seem most to be Great Britain and the E.U. but the Middle East territories will also be made desolate (waste).

(Ceres pics:

It was the Next Level’s removal of Their Older Members and Crew (First Fruit) that then removed an installed impediment to the BEAST seizing global dominance to mount it’s attack and defense against their perceived space alien threat that meant sucking trillions of dollars from all sources to fund the many associated science projects, to develop technologies for their projects to escape into space and to hide underground and trying to learn to shoot down or divert asteroids, etc., looking for more powerful energy sources (like the Bob Lazar element), while hiding the true intention from most that resulted in the “secret (Mystery) government (Babylon)” that has fostered so much misinformation and siphoned off so much capital from the budgets while manufacturing income – literally printing more money, but also giving loans to many without proof of income thereby knowing many will default and then profiting off of bundled loan sales as the loans never represented anyone’s real money to begin with so nothing was lost except for accountability and the return of assets, like houses in foreclosures. This has been part of the way the U.S. economy can be kept alive in an increasingly volatile environment as good paying jobs disappeared as more and more manufacturing is shipped overseas where there are no labor standards and no liability and no EPA or FDA guidelines to maximize profits so they can keep their work force and efforts focused on the aspects of the “war in the heaven’s” they mount as if shifting the entire economy to a war economy like during WWII while the public largely doesn’t have a clue. It is a futile effort where the Next Level is concerned as there is no contest with the Next Level.

America is to experience this period of “death, mourning, famine and is “burned by fire” – which has already been shown to be escalating but has only just begun during the 2000’s and actually really gets underway starting in 2017. We will observe massive riots, revolts, vigilantism, more mass shootings, random violence, ethnically, racial and religious bigotry justified by those enacting the violence just like the U.S. and other countries have done on a larger scale all over the planet over the last century, and more, civil disobedience with violence and military in the streets in many major U.S. cities (police forces are deploying military hardware and their ranks are largely from war veterans accustomed to looking at people of color as the enemy) while putting a face of normalcy and even social progress in the media at the same time, mostly a totally false facade. Anyone who appears to be a dissident from the government’s perspective no matter what their party or race or creed will be labeled as a threat by someone and all it will take is an accusation from any citizen at any time to suspect someone and find a reason to give them a ticket or stay in jail or in the case of some to be shipped off to a camp of some sort so their dissidence can’t easily “infect” others.

Some who resort to any way of making an income they can find, like selling cd’s, if complained against by say a store owner can easily mean the police could enact a brutal arrest and if they get the least reason shoot to kill and get at most a slap on the wrist for doing so, especially when it’s against people whose skin color is brown to black when some of the police have their own vendetta against. My vehicle’s nephew just entered the police force in the south U.S. and I heard a report that I took as his becoming bias against blacks because they are the ones committing the crimes. I doubt he understands that dynamic. It’s actually programmed into many whites from birth that blacks are lessor and are a criminal element and are promiscuous and dirty and drug users and so forth. Since in most cases black families were discriminated against and didn’t go along with the largely controlling white power structures and their predatory ways, they remained an underclass in America having only the facade of equality starting in the 1970’s and especially in the south. They became more suspect and had less opportunities so did become a class of street survivors that the whites sought to write laws against which ended up putting more blacks in jail that also fostered black on black violence and crime, etc. (Crimes spoken of here are against Lucifer’s laws not the Next Level’s laws, while the whites and their power structures in government are the biggest criminals against the Next Level laws – for instance living by guns made to kill other humans against the Next Levels instructions).

Because of the draw of benefits away from the poor and the prosecution of the poor for tiny offenses like traffic violations, a license plate light being out, for instance, or not using their turn signal a correct distance from the road in which they turned, gives police justification to stop and issue a ticket and find other things wrong, expired license, and/or insurance as people without jobs and benefits fail to keep those things up when given choices between them and food and clothing for their children. Almost everyday in the news in the U.S. there are police killing of unarmed blacks with video footage of the incidents. So when it says the U.S. (Babylon) shall be burned with fire it is fire in very sense of the word as war in the streets, inflamed passions and jealousies, loss of respect for authorities, even a literal sniper war against authorities. For every report there are hundreds of more incidents that go unreported

But overall the way it will seem to work for these who I am listing en-masse as dissidents is that they will not be “marked” so will eventually be prohibited from buying and selling and receiving any benefits and will be targeted by individuals and/or groups and even killed if they don’t show their allegiance – get their markings on their hand or forehead or work (worship) for the image – a delusional idea of what God is, the false prophet “god” that is popular among many upper class Christians and many new age Buddhists to show allegiance to, and what their ideas are to safeguard their sense of security – often subconscious protection from so called radical elements and Christians who are often in affect Anti-Christs in how they don’t know what a Christ is and how one must become a Christ to become a member of the Next Level – to go to the Kingdom of Heaven, (even though that is accomplished in stages so all don’t graduate during the same human vehicle experience). In one application this IMAGE seems to be a Hologram like Fatima.

Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Since the plagues are beginning at about this point in the timeline that are a part of the JUDGMENT DAY and HOUR OF JUDGMENT and start of the WRATH OF GOD, the people who have chose to be marked by the BEAST are already mostly marked. They have largely chosen their allegiance to their government and it’s institutions, it’s medical prowess, it’s intellectualism and it’s opinions in the use of their science.

For instance in the first vial being poured out note how it’s only a problem for those who had accepted the MARK or worshiped the BEASTS IMAGE – a religious or spiritual devotion, thinking of self as belonging to a Christian nation or being among the enlightened in the world or apt to believe in Space Aliens as “gods” or in a holographic image like Fatima.

Here is where this time was first announced to come, said as “following” the sounding. Note it’s relationship to “fire mixed with bloodshed,” we have seen escalate in the U.S. west especially since the new millennium:

Rev 8:7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up

I wondered for a long time if the hugely increasing vaccination programs will be part of the cause of these “noisome and grievous sore” on humans, perhaps a reaction from the content of the vial:

Rev 16:2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore ((1668 helkos most likely from helkuo 1670= an ulcer (as if drawn together))) upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image ((1504 eikon from eiko 1503= faintness as a copy, likeness, (literally) statue, profile, or as a figure a representation, resemblance, [holographic image like Fatima])).

The sores are actually translated as “ulcers” (a drawing together) which is the exact terminology used to describe lesions Dr. Wakefield and his eleven associate doctors documented among the ten autistic children that became his patients because of their all also having bowel disease. These lesions were throughout their intestines and measles virus they all received from the MMR vaccination was found in the lesions. From the intestines the virus and/or heavy metals and formaldehyde and other parts of many vaccinations, if not flushed out of the body, if they pass through the intestinal wall as is the norm these toxins enter the blood stream and travel all over the body to include the brain where mercury in particular could constitute a “fire” as these heavy elements are quite “hot” as electromagnetic conductors and the body’s response to them can be inflammation – brain swelling – all together potentially destroying sensitive brain tissue and the brains neuro-transmissions, a typical symptom seen in Autism, Parkinsons, and many other diseases that are often in incubation for years before surfacing, so become near impossible to directly claim are responses from certain vaccinations and/or combinations of vaccinations.

So if this is accurate then only those that accept these vaccinations suffer from the sores as they trust the associated government institutions and corporations and in this example, a big one of many, the vaccination protocol so would be those who have given their allegiance to the poisonous deceiving, who are thus worshiping (Do called, “working for”) The BEASTS IMAGE (Spirituality, Space Alien worship, false idols, false Christians, even seeing and worshipping a hologram like Fatima that communicates).” There are also many additional surfacing of “sores” coming about. Sores could also be referring to tumor propagation as in cancers and in the sores as rashes inside and outside the body as allergies and acquired immune deficiencies (AIDS).

There is also an application to mental illness in the way there is an epidemic usage of drugs to calm anxiety disorders and hypertension as ADD, ADHD and bi-polar conditions, diabetes related conditions, etc., etc. After all, humans in major cities are often drinking and cooking with city water that is reconstituted WASTE water that has allowable levels of toxins are are loaded with Chlorine. This water can be filled with heavy metal toxins not filtered out that can contribute to brain malfunctions often treated with drugs reducing one’s self control and directing people to have less tolerance and patience and are more thoughtful response to others so all are like firecrackers whose fuse was lit and it’s just a matter of time before an explosion. This is all exasperated by the way society has accepted Luciferian laws as justification to apprehend, lock up, fine, treat disrespectfully, abuse and even kill people who may or may not be breaking any of God’s laws. This is a big part of how the U.S. is destroyed by fire in all it’s forms.

Remember as Jesus said, those who try to save their lives will lose their life in the Next Level. In other words, accepting the MARK will tell the Next Level which human vehicles are the “tares” so will be most subject to these plagues (7 vials) and which have Souls that can be saved when they die. All vehicles will eventually die so there is no escaping that, though some Christians think they will be “raptured” and some New Agers think their so called “good space aliens” will save them. The only “rapture” they might experience is from the space aliens taking their vehicles for their DNA and an occasional few as delegates, seen as “contactees.”

So the plagues will begin to be poured out and it will show their power though many, even most will not change their mind (repent) about the reality of the Next Level and the fact that TI and DO were the return many Christians and other religious were thinking they were looking for, or to change their associated behaviors and ways that have become far afield to what the Next Level ever gave to humans to qualify as their children.

Rev 18:9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,

Verses Rev 14:9-13 indicates the “wrath of God” is coming to all who work for the BEAST and accept the mark. This will apply especially to the U.S. and E.U. – the BEAST and the LITTLE BEAST (Rev 13:11-14)

Rev 18:10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.

It would appear that the countries outside of the U.S. mainland are aware of the torment in the U.S. which would seem to be the first signs of the seven vials being poured out as plagues and calamities that no doubt includes mayhem, perhaps the equivalent of civil war that’s been going on for years by this time, moreorless ever since the “temple in heaven” was opened/shown on dwarf planet Ceres that with it seems to include a stepping up by humans to divert as much funds towards their war machine that includes dealing with dissidents all over the planet but probably includes the motivation to design weapons to combat what some as a “bad space alien” threat – the depicted “battle/war of/in Armageddon. It might be that some would see TI and DO as contactees from the bad aliens.

The only ones who would stand a chance of seeing TI and DO as the creators representatives are those who were given “Soul deposits” or perhaps some who still had some Next Level mind in them that could include them in the 144,000 number. Thus these would be targeted early on, to get rid of, to hush up, not necessarily by the government only but by those who side with the government, those who had accepted the various markings and mindset. We can witness this brewing as we come upon the 2016 presidential election with both Bernie Sanders supporters and Donald Trump supporters getting increasingly violent for different reasons but both tied to their taking sides in the government that they all agree is corrupt but think somehow is going to cease being corrupt if they can get their candidate elected – a complete illusion and hope that humans (mammon) can save themselves from themselves.

Rev 18:11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:

This prophecy has begun to be fulfilled starting in 1997 when the U.S. trade deficit, the difference between imports and exports began to spike dramatically. From a steady rise since 1980 from about 50 billion dollars to about 200 billion dollars a year, around 1997 it rose consistently to over a trillion dollars by about 2007, a mere ten years, thus indicating that exports were significantly reduced during that time.

Rev 18:12-19 – shows some detail of the U.S. in social and financial ruin during the course of these “40 years” (a Next Level “hour”).

Rev 18:20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles ((delegates (oil – those giving all their energy/time to service to TI and DO)) and prophets ((speakers of the truth)); for God hath avenged you on her.

The very large event that does “hurt the earth and sea and trees” is depicted next though those that survive it and change, if any, will be among those who could still have their souls or spirits saved for the next civilization lesson ground:

Rev 18:21 And a mighty ((ischuros= strong, powerful)) angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence ((rush)) shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

It’s interesting how the events forecast by the Second Angel’s sounding describes, “as it were…”

Rev 8:8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;
Rev 8:9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.

Rev 16:3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living Soul ((zao= to live, breathe, active being)) died in the sea.

In other words, what is being shown in Rev 8:8 is not exactly what would happen if a “great mountain burning with fire” was “cast into the sea” – which is also the way the the “stone” was “like” a great millstone, as in size and/or weight, cast into the sea – but both causing violent destruction in/on/around one or more seas that SHALL thrown down the U.S. (Babylon) and be it’s end – not to be found no more at all.

Since the third part is specified in one account, I suspect it’s cued on Mt. Etna and the Mediterranean Sea and in the U.S., the fourth part of the world, I would suspect Yellowstone in the state of Montana, whose name comes from the Spanish word Montana, translated to “mountain,” or “mountainous country.” With the keyword mountain as a big clue it should be noted that it was March 20, 1980, when Mount St. Helens, known to the Klickitats Indians as Louwala-Clough translated to “smoking or fire mountain” (note: “burning with fire”) had a earthquake with a 4.2 magnitude with a huge steam exhaust on the 27th and then another 5.1 mag. earthquake and major eruption on May 18, 1980 – the biggest volcanic eruption documented in the U.S. It showed activity until 1986, then a little around 1990 with the latest steam plumes of ash in 2008.

In that Mt. St. Helens eruption, mudflows transported about 3,900,000 cubic yards of material into the Columbia River and the area was saturated by sulfur dioxide that all washed into the Pacific ocean (sea), thus one can see how an even bigger eruption in that area could badly pollute the “sea” and other waterways for hundreds of miles around, even affecting the Great Salt Lake in Utah, relatively close to Mt. St. Helens.

After all, where on the planet in the Old World (EU/Middle East) and New World (western U.S.) are there greater foundations of human Luciferian power presented in a religio-spiritual false-Christian framework than in Rome – seat of the “Holy See” in Vatican City and in Salt Lake City, Utah, home to the most recent church built from Space Alien (fallen angel) Soul Moroni (Mormons) – called the “Church of Jesus Christ Latter Day Saints” (LDS church), together with all the other signs?

It’s quite clear this is a devastating event or combination and series of events that befall the U.S. and the former Roman Empire – “who pierced him.” It’s interesting that this “stone like a great millstone” isn’t cast down from the heavens so doesn’t seem to be an asteroid, yet if it was an earthquake (shaking) like other depictions one would expect the Greek word for seismic to be used, though a volcanic eruption seems to be started by earthquake activity – it’s not the primary source of the calamity.

There is some suspicion been reported that the two giant tsunamis to hit Sumatra and Japan in the early 2000’s had seismic activity but there is some evidence it could have been caused by an object from the heavens that went undetected or could have occurred by a giant hole opening up in the Pacific ocean sea floor, even like a cave in that displaced many tons of earth to cause the shaking and the roaring sea. The point is we don’t know how many ways the Next Level can demonstrate their fulfillment of these prophecies. What we do know is that keeping a great deal of it a mystery til now was part of Their plan, because otherwise the Luciferian space aliens would have more ammunition to further distort the truth before it does come out, further challenging the chances for some to see the truth. No Soul is shorted opportunities to SEE by having human vehicles available that have that potential.

The clues don’t add up to this referring primarily to the former Babylonian Empire and the city Babylon as they are today non-existent so there is nothing to throw down. However, should this happen to the Mediterranean, no doubt those ancient areas would also be significantly affected. However, primarily this would seem to be referring to the new Babylon with the New Jerusalem. The New Jerusalem is destroyed by fire, heat, drought, conflict and NYC and vicinity destroyed by water. I suspect the mighty angel is a archangel – a captain of angels, probably promoted from those who were counted as the Four Living Beings.

Even still here is what the prophet Jeremiah said about Babylon’s fall that with most prophecy would have multiple applications during and after his time:

Jer 51:61 And Jeremiah said to Seraiah, When thou comest to Babylon, and shalt see, and shalt read all these words;
Jer 51:62 Then shalt thou say, O LORD, thou hast spoken against this place, to cut it off, that none shall remain in it, neither man nor beast, but that it shall be desolate for ever.
Jer 51:63 And it shall be, when thou hast made an end of reading this book, that thou shalt bind a stone ((‘eben= building stones, headstone)) to it, and cast it into the midst of Euphrates:
Jer 51:64 And thou shalt say, Thus shall Babylon sink ((Hebrew shaqa’= drown, quench, subside, to sink, collapse, settle)) shall not rise from the evil ((Hebrew ra’= hurt, trouble, sore, affliction, noisome, grievous, sad)) that I will bring upon her: and they shall be weary. Thus far are the words of Jeremiah.

What is most interesting is how this verse uses the idea of a stone (like a millstone) cast into the sea, which Jesus illustrated as the fate of those who put a stumbling block or impediment (i.e. cause to distrust) in front of one who is seeking to be a student of their Older Member, the latest REPS in the names of TI and DO:

Mar 9:42 And whosoever shall offend ((causing to stumble)) one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.

Similar stories of an ancient Tower of Babel are told in a number of cultures all over the world. Of the four I read they all involved building this tower to defy but only one talked about how building a tall building was defying God, which involved surviving another flood and/or showing God humans are not forced to live on earth while God Beings can circulate in the elevated areas (sky/heaven). TI and DO said the Luciferian space aliens – the Souls who occupy hybrid physical bodies like discarnates can influence many in the world, gravitating to those with the most power over other humans and have more locations they are allowed into where human level discarnates can not go, who “resent” the Next Level, which is why they seek to steal “souls” from the Next Level plantings (those humans who receive a “tag” and/or Soul “deposit” and do try to put stumbling blocks before every would be student. Thus it seems this is depicting the punishment upon an entire nation who have sided with the Luciferian “misinformation mind” in a similar way by being tools of the twisting and turning of every thought and idea and concept that came from the Next Level incarnate Older Members over the course of the current civilization.

It’s also telling in how TI and DO and certain records indicate the Luciferian space aliens are desperate to leave the earth before another period of time when they suspect they might only find some safety being underground again, hence the U.S. and other space programs they have got humans to put more and more effort into to find certain elements they know exist that can greatly increase their ability to have zero gravity craft and/or to establish colonies and to combat who some of them probably think of as the Bad Aliens – Reptilians.

TI and DO indicated the Luciferian Space Aliens also “resent” the Next Level and thus all who give their allegiance to the Next Level, so they seek to turn every story from the records into a myth or to render it religious, spiritual, mystical, mixing in distortions and dilutions from the whole simple truth. Everything has become so complicated (as Do said) that it’s almost impossible to see the truth unless someone really asks the Next Level to see it and pursues the answers overlooking their fears of what they will find and how they will be faced to change things about their lives to show the Next Level their allegiance rather than conforming to mans idea of what that allegiance may look like. Changes will come one way or another so why not seek the Next Level’s help to make the changes on their behalf and then have a chance to LIVE because they will see that investing in you might become a fruitful endeavor. I say “might” because giving allegiance is not only a one time commitment. It starts with a renewed commitment, not assuming we had one before, but if we are to follow up on it, as they offer us opportunities to show them what our commitment is made out of, we can continue making it. Even if we fail in some way, getting “back on the horse” as some say, is part of that commitment while trying to improve to not repeat the same thinking and actions that caused our slippage or fall.

Moving past the next Angel Sounding and associated Angel pouring out of Vial events; (third and fourth covered in sections; III.C.3 THIRD TRUMPET AND III.C.4 FOURTH TRUMPET) that continue the HOUR OF JUDGMENT of the U.S. and E.U./Middle East brings the timeline up to the depiction of what happens to the SEAT OF THE BEAST. Since the BEAST is the U.S. secret government (mystery Babylon) that is the basis of the New World Order/global – 7 heads, 10 horns with 10 crowns, mostly EU countries, there are only two contending primary locations for this BEAST’s Seat, that of Washington D.C., which really tends to look like more of the front for that SEAT – the non-mystery govt. This means New York City and vicinity is the more likley candidate as the SEAT – where the real Throne is most apparent. After all in terms of internationalism, there is no other location in the U.S. that shows greater indicators as in the 7 TOWERS OF THE WORLD TRADE CENTER, that were all eventually demolished, rebuilt or made into a memorial park, while are shrouded in controversy and evidence of conspiracy in their demise, and the UNITED NATIONS HEADQUARTERS, the FEDERAL RESERVE BANK, the FINANCIAL CAPITAL OF THE WORLD with the WALL STREET INVESTMENT BANKING conglomerates who manipulated the 2007-8 global financial crisis, etc.

Rev 16:10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat ((2362 thronos= from thrao (to sit), a stately seat (“throne”), implication of power, a potentate)) of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,
Rev 16:11 And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.

Perhaps the darkness is from the events associated with the “millstone like object cast into the sea” that is all part of that “hour judgment” and “wrath of God” upon humans who make the BEAST and MAMMON (mammalian forms of treasure and wealth) their “God.” It certainly could have created a very dense black cloud if it was related to a volcanic eruption as anticipated. We’ve seen how the ash cloud can block out huge portions of the sunlight and that breathing the particulate is very toxic to the lungs, skin and eyes, etc.

Volcanic smog (Vog) poses a health hazard by aggravating preexisting respiratory ailments, and acid rain damages crops and can leach lead into household water supplies. Sulfur dioxide gas (SO2) is a poisonous gas that irritates skin and the tissues and mucous membranes of the eyes, nose, and throat. During even moderate physical activity, SO2 penetrates deeply into the airway and can produce respiratory distress in some individuals. It can induce asthma attacks, especially in adolescents, and can also impede the ability of the upper respiratory tract to remove other potentially harmful particles. Other complaints include headaches, breathing difficulties, watery eyes, sore throat, flu-like symptoms, and a general lack of energy.

It seems far from coincidence that NYC became the first city in this civilization to build a towering 102 story skyscraper, even taking on the state’s motto as the “Empire State” Building, along with the Statue of Liberty, whose name came from Lady Columbia that first represented a new home and “land of opportunity” in America for millions of people from all over the world, though mostly from Europe, looking for opportunity, fleeing ethnic, racial and religious persecutions. I suspect it would have been a Next Level crew who gave the designer many of the ideas that often met objections but ended up being a huge fit to Revelations prophecy. TI and DO did indicate that setting things up with terminology and events were tasks given to certain crews to do.

Here’s a list:

– Links to Ancient Rome as Jesus said even those who pierced him would be returning and that the just and the unjust would rise again, meaning their branch on the human tree would bear equivalent leaves that don’t recognize the truth again so may apply to both gentiles and religious and their modern depictions as staunch atheists, pagans and spiritual. (Note: None of these belief or non-belief systems in and of themselves are “bad” IF they are moved through when individuals are shown the teachings of TI and DO because what they taught stands apart from everything else though shows relationships to all thinking in the past).

1) The Name “Lady Liberty” – comes from the Roman Goddess of Freedom.

TI and DO said there is no freedom in the human kingdom. Such can only be found once a member of the Next Level. Even if humans are seemingly free, it ends in a very tiny space in time and we are all bound by our senses, our programming, our hormones, by our flesh vehicles and most of all to the human kingdom. For any who are breaking away, those souls will be saved by the Next Level to have another chance to gain complete freedom.

2) The statue has a “diadem (crown)” on her head – A diadem is a type of crown, specifically an ornamental headband worn by monarchs and others as a badge of royalty whether male or female in Greek, Persian and Roman cultures. The word derives from the Greek diádema, “band” or “fillet,” diadéo, “I bind round,” or “I fasten.” – This name seems to refer to that human being bound to lead the people, in this case in Luciferian rule.

TI and DO said Lucifer also like order and laws and justice in the society he presides over, which is throughout the world for as long as the Next Level allows him to do so.

It is translated as “crown” in Rev 13:1 but is from the Greek, diadema and refers to what is worn on the heads of the 10 horns of the BEAST that is sat upon by the “woman” America (whose power comes from the Dragon Lucifer), that “great city,” once called Babylon but now as the United States of America.

The other translation to “crown” is from the Greek, “stephanos” which is used in a number of verses to indicate those who had conquered the human world that had to do with their washing their robes and giving their lives in service to their Older Member from the Next Level.

3) Coming out of a halo or aureole around her head/crown are 7 rays of light which were said to represent the Sun and the 7 Seas and the 7 Continents. Rev 17:7 (and other places) describes the BEAST as having “7 heads” that “carry” this “woman” – the U.S. which I believe are primarily the G7 nations. These 7 heads are later on, in Rev 17:9 described as being “seven mountains” the woman sits upon. The Woman as America, having one of it’s heads as NYC is where the United Nations is primarily headquartered since it’s inception in 1945 the the seven mountains not only represent the 7 continents and 7 races of humans but also the 7 original kingdoms that had a global reach, namely; England, France, Italy, Spain, Germany, the Dutch from Holland and finally the U.S.

4) She wears a Stola, a long linen gown like a toga that Roman women wore that showed their marital status and wealth in how many layers it had. For royalty it was often made of silk.

Those that graduate into the Next Level are awarded with a new physical vehicle that is described in prophecy as “fine linen” also worn by royalty as opposed to the commoners who wore other less expensive fabrics to include burlap (sackcloth). The Two Witnesses came wearing “sackcloth” (burlap bags used to transport grains and beans that the poor used for clothing thereafter as it was free, which suggested these TWO would be commoners as TI and DO were, not being related directly to the various royal family blood lines whose ancestors largely became the presidents and corporate moguls.

5) The designer wrote July 4, 1776 on that tablet that was in the statue’s left hand that was done in Roman Numerals “JULY IV MDCCLXXVI.” The tablet was shaped like a keystone to evoke the concept of law, thus a facsimile to the Ten Commandments. The dollar bill also has Roman Numerals on it and stone mason’s third eye inside a pyramid. The base of the Statue was built as the base of a pyramid so it was 62 feet square on the bottom and 39.4 feet square on the top.

– Links to other prophecies:

1) She is holding a torch in one hand extended way above her head – This was to represent progress and shedding “enlightenment” throughout the world. TI and DO said the Next Level set up the U.S. to be the location for their return so they drew people to migrate there so America did become a beacon of light to the rest of the world, especially when TI and DO started to tag the human vehicles they were to take in then 1920’s that in Do’s case must have meant they tagged his vehicle’s mother then. I recall TI and DO said they took human vehicles that were sickly and would have died had they not taken them. I thought Do’s vehicle’s birth year was 1931 and TI’s 1927, but perhaps I got that wrong somehow.

2) On each side of the statue’s base as a door. Above each of the 4 doors were locations for 10 disks that were supposed to be for the coats of arms from each of the then 38 states. It was dedicated on 10/28/1896

3) It’s just interesting the statue’s “skin” is made from copper that turned “green” and that the plagues to befall the U.S. were to come during one “sitting” (day/time) and there were to be only 4 sittings, referring to the Rev 6 White, Red, Black/Deep Blue (Jacinth), Green horses being Do (Older Member from the Next Level Soul) on the white/light (made pure through overcoming Lucifier, his assigned Advasary (Satan)), (Applewhite named horse/vehicle) as the First sitting, G.W. Bush as the red horse sat upon by a Luciferian space alien Soul as the second sitting, Barack Obama as the Black/Deep Blue, Jacinth horse sat upon by a Luciferian space alien Soul and whoever becomes the Green (pale) horse sat on by a Luciferian space alien Soul as the LAST and fourth sitting – during which come the main Judgment hour (40 year period), within which is the “time of great trouble” (trials and tribulations for all) and the “winepress” containing the “full wrath of God” (as until this time it’s only been sporadic wrath of God).

The “GREEN HORSE” prophecy doesn’t seem to be fulfilled in exactly the color coded ways of the previous three horseman of the apocolypse unless Trump is considered to be green as in “space alien green” in the way he is president at the time when the space aliens are most doing their own harvesting of souls away from their capacity to become Next Level Members. This is alongside the “green” agenda, today one of several fronts of the New World Order and thus  “global government,” seemingly being coincidentally the “save the planet” agenda, except their real thinking is to save the planet from the space alien threat they are unknowingly controlled by. It was quite clever and went hand in hand with taking over the U.S. government completely starting with the 2000 election. The powerful in the U.S. I don’t believe are united in this so it includes dealing with dissidents and damage control and continuing a dis/mis-information campaign that moreorless causes confusion while people take their stand for what they believe, regardless of how it is based on reality of the BEASTS and of course Luciferian space alien lies and deceit. I know Trump has said something to the affect of “global warming being a hoax started by the Chinese” and that he wasn’t going to support the most recent Paris accords. But that’s not going to stop people all over the U.S. and world from jumping on that bandwagon. In fact it energizes them.

So the “global warming” people, even taught in the universities gives the youth something to hope for to stand for their ideals, but any who are really paying attention will soon see that the most effective way to save an island nation from sea rise is to find them a new place to migrate to. The only way to effectively combat disease from the lack of clean drinking water is by providing ways to have clean drinking water not by making vaccinations for every strain of viral infection that comes about as a result of use of dirty drinking water, which is the Bill Gates Foundation’s big push. I don’t think the largely northern globalists give a hoot for the small island nations who will theoretically be underwater because of glacial melt. That seems to be in prophecy to occur but not because of ice melt but in one case in Rev 6:14 related to the exit of the spacecraft called “heaven” and the other when all is “done” during the seventh vial pouring out in Rev 16:20, from an earthquake that divides Babylon (USA) into three parts which I suspect is a predecessor to the event shown in Rev 18:21 being evaluated right here.

So some call me a “climate denier” when I never deny we have a climate and evidences trending to warming but being essentially caused by humans is what I don’t go along with and the evidence of it not being caused by humans is obvious unless one thrives upon and trusts certain data and charts and measurements and theories of how humans stimulates greater warming, when there are just as many reasons to see, equally scientific to suggest it’s not significantly human developed. So humans add to it. Humans have always added to it. And they no doubt add to it more now but even if I were wrong and it’s all in the hands of humans, I guarantee they won’t fix it. It’s a boondoggle in government when you have a program that does nothing measurable to fix a problem yet you have convinced the populous it’s needed. It’s like the war in Iraq that still goes on 14 years later that is now part of the budget to manage.

But back to the verse from the gospel of Mark, it’s interesting to think about how Jesus uses that illustration of attaching a millstone to someones neck and being cast into the sea as better than what will happen to those that offend (cause to stumble) one of these Next Level students (little ones). The later will undergo an indefinite self generated torment in the “lake of fire.” That torment will not be in the physical sense but there could be a real good reason to allow those souls who because so against the Next Level to remain indefinitely in such a state, perhaps still having programs running that desire things but having no way to quench those desires. On the other hand the others that have the millstone put on their neck, on the physical level die once but can also illustrate how some are allowed to survive a recycling period (like a flood perhaps) by being anchored (against their will) to the ocean floor.

On July 4, 2016 I came upon a report of someone who had been examining Google Earth, the telescope satellites trained on earth linked to, where he saw what looked like a pyramid shaped object that was illuminated on the ocean floor in the Pacific ocean off the coast of Mexico. I have to wonder if the Next Level had a way to force some of the space aliens to the bottom of the sea where they could survive for a time – survive the Noah flood for example which is indicated as “creature….in the sea” in addition to those “under the earth,” possibly referring to some who might have a facility under the Antarctic continent that was evidenced by Hitlers intelligence chiefs statements and the Admiral Byrd reports of both the North Pole and the battle in Antartica:

Rev 5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

Rev 18:22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;
Rev 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

This verse sounds like a reference to Rev 16:10, just described, as the Vial that is poured out on the BEAST’s Kingdom onto the SEAT of the BEAST that brings about “darkness” – “a candle shall shine no more at all in thee”) and subsequent anguish (pain) because of which is directly the affect described in what comes after the opening of the bottomless pit as described in:

Rev 9:2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.

And this also relates back to the timeline in the sixth seal opening:

Rev 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

Rev 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

America is thrown down, is judged and it’s population is related to the Souls and genetic spirits/minds past who were influenced by the Luciferian space alien souls to repeatedly spill the blood of those the Next Level sent to them which is a reference to when the Kingdom of God and spacecraft “heaven” was docked over/upon the area of the middle east known as Judea and the physical city Jerusalem and it’s Babylonian heritage most made manifest at that time through the Empire in Rome but who these same spirits/souls were drawn by the Next Level to influence human vehicles in the New Jerusalem and new Babylon and equivalent to a new Roman Empire as the U.S.A.

So no entertainment, no craftsmen and no industry (sound of a millstone) will be heard in her. It looks like the electric grid is down and with it perhaps the internet is incapacitated as that is the primary way the voice of Do (the Bridegroom) and Crew can be heard up until this time. However, though this is the end of the U.S. as it was known before this 40 or so years, the BEAST, as the global, now largely underground secret government still exists and are still mounting their war against the Next Level whom they think of as the bad space aliens shown in:

Sixth Vial is poured out which would seem to include the Opening of the Temple in Heaven and appearance of the ARK – Spacecraft Armada for every eye to see, thus no need for NASA space telescopes, etc.:

Rev 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
Rev 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

The Dragon represents Lucifer, but includes his other fallen angel souls who speak through whoever will provide them with influence over the humans who are most in line to comprehend the truth as provided by the Next Level REPS TI and DO and all their supporting records of the real Jesus and Moses, etc. The Beast are the humans and the human equivalent vehicles, they use who become brainwashed with their misinformation mind/spirit that includes the One World “secret” government. The False Prophets are all who promote religion and spirituality over the reality of the Next Level TI and DO provided and that seems to be summed up most by the Vatican City/State comprised of the “Holy” See with it’s figurehead at this time as Pope Francis who is making a big effort to morph Catholics and Christianity into a One World Religion.

Rev 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles ((signs, marks, token, portent, unusual occurrence, portending remarkable events)), which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

Each of these three have their own forms of “remarkable events” that look to humans as miracle and signs, being most unusual, but they won’t be the ones seen in deep outer space as the Luciferian space aliens can’t go into space unless they can get humans to build spacecrafts to do so, which is part of their agenda to try to escape their earthly prison as Do indicated they have rumors circulating among them that they will be locked up again.

I would say the signs of the Luciferian space aliens would be mostly UFO sightings, holograms, Do indicated like Fatima long ago, contactees like Icke, Collier, Rael, etc., Channelers and Spiritual teachers and technologies while the BEAST’s signs are technological – space travel, lasers, GPS, computerization and pharmacological developments, Genetic engineering, Particle experiments like in CERN, etc., Nuclear driven engines and such, etc. making artificial smart limbs, or organs even grown genetically and even made to be “printed out” of a machine, for example.

The False Prophet’s miracles and signs are in the appearance of getting right with God, mostly in talk about peace and love in the brotherhood of man, faith healing and so forth that becomes equivalent to a drug in the way religiosity and spirituality “soothes” the heart and mind when otherwise reality can be overbearing to deal with. They replace the relationship many could have with their real Heavenly Father with a devotion to the church and community, the poor, the sick, humanitarianism and/or environmentalism, all “good” but without the motivation of trying to please the Next Level Older Members can become a huge show of allegiance to what Jesus called “mammon” – wealth in all it’s human forms. In other words as Jesus taught: “have peace with one another” but approach that which influences you from giving yourself totally to your Heaven’s Fathers service with “fire” – anger as in a war to eliminate from your body and mind.

(See Mark 9:23-49 for context)
Mar 9:50 Salt is good: but if the salt have lost his saltness, wherewith will ye season it? Have salt in yourselves, and have peace one with another.

Rev 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
Rev 16:16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon ((Ar= city or hill + Megiddo – a valley in Palestine that was the scene of several major battles)).

This same time period was first announced via the 6th angel’s trumpet sounding that is interpreted in section “III.C.6. SIXTH TRUMPET/SECOND WOE”

Rev 9:14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.
Rev 9:15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.

A battle/war is described in Rev 9:16-21 where the BEAST, shown in part by being described as HORSES (MAMMALS) are killing a third of humans.

Rev 9:20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:
Rev 9:21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

At this point these are humans doing the killing of one another as horses are humans who are “sat upon” by Souls and Spirits and by other humans and space aliens, but it’s because of the Next Level pouring out of the “vial” (medicine) that the humans can’t help but act out what they have become, what they believe is right and just and necessary, even justifying killing the vehicles of those working for TI and DO, while thinking they are acting on “God’s” behalf, except for one major discrepancy that it’s not the real “God” of the Earth they are in service to.

Fire to the Next Level has to do with heat even as a pressure as in the expression of passions whether towards unbridled sexuality or through anger and hatreds, vengeance and competition in whatever form that takes according to each individual. If someone is prone to violence then that’s how they seek to make their mark or feel they are making a difference or just enacting what they think needs to happen or is just to happen. As with all prophecy literal fires are also stimulated in terms of waring. Smoke has more to do with those who are acting on the sly – hiding their true agenda and how that becomes another type of poison to those that don’t really know what’s happening as it can easily take the form of influencing humans to give their allegiance to anyone but the One True Kingdom of God, even though they may use that terminology to describe who they are giving their allegiance to. One is not giving allegiance to the true Kingdom of God unless they are refusing to participate or justify any of the behaviors and ways the Kingdom of God has made very clear are their commandments for humans to adhere to, to meet the favor of the Next Level. I think the volcanic activity will have produced a great deal of smoke damage.

Brimstone or also called “sulfur” is most directly associated with “hell” and those in it – the Luciferian Space Alien “souls” who have chose to go against the Next Level repeatedly. And of course many are killed because of volcanic eruptions that shoot radioactive stones that can be large and small and can travel in the wind for even thousands of miles.


Both of these sections of verses locate the events depicted to the Euphrates River. Since we have seen how most all, if not all prophecy has physical and mental (pertaining to spirit/mind growth towards Next Level Membership) manifestations and are to be DOUBLED in their application, I will start with what I believe is the secondary application in regard to the events in the Middle East. There are many prophecies from Isaiah and Jeremiah and others that talk about how these lands will be dried up. It’s already happening and of course it’s called GLOBAL WARMING and humans and space aliens are trying to tie it into human activity instead of giving the recognition to who is behind these plagues/calamities as the Kingdom of God – Level Above Human. In examining many Christian commentaries on this vial/trumpet prophecy, it’s apparent that the Euphrates is one of the four in Genesis where the “Garden of Eden” was first staged as a testing environment for the further development of those souls who were coming up from the human kingdom to become Members of the Next Level. The river separated peoples and kept them apart so was seen as a boundary. The Kings from the east or equally said as from the “rising sun” were thought by some to be Persia, India and/or China or as the depiction of “children of God” being given passage out of bondage via the opening of the river boundary kin to Moses taking his encampment out of the bondage imposed by the Egyptians. Although these are some good ideas they don’t take into account the vast amount of evidence provided by the arrival of TI and DO as the incarnate stage return of the Father and Jesus and their crew of saints.

Bringing TI and DO into the understanding of what these prophecies could mean provides yet other key pieces to the solving of the entire Revelations prophecy most accurate interpretation/translation. Note the Euphrates is called the “great river” in Rev 16:12 and Rev 9:14 and this is the meaning of the word, “Mississippi” from the French “Messipi” a rendering of the Anishinaabe (Ojibwe or Algonquin) name for the river, “Misi-ziibi,” meaning “Great or Big River.” and many nicknames: Body of a Nation, El Grande, El Grande de Soto, the Mighty Mississippi, the Muddy Mississippi, Old Man River and two of particular interest; “the Father of Waters,” “the Gathering of Waters,” where we know that “waters” in Revelations often refer to a multitude of people, the mass of humanity.

We know TI and DO said many times that whenever they would travel east of the Mississippi River they would feel out of touch with their Next Level connection. They still ventured east at times by themselves and with the classroom but it was always very short-lived. I’ve already described some of that in previous sections. And then there was the many connections with Samuel Clemens writing as Mark Twain, who was a Mississippi Riverboat captain and the captains deck on a riverboat was actually referred to as the “Texas” deck, I believed spelt Tejas from it’s Spanish origin. As I’ve also described a great deal an Archangel was actually a “captain of angels” and the archangel Michael was also a “Christ” – an anointed one, one who had overcome the human condition and came incarnate starting in the vehicle named Adam, when he failed but recovered and overcame to take over the vehicle named Enoch – 7th from Adam, to be taken into the Next Level without dying, showing as TI said that you don’t have to die to get to the Next Level. One just has to catch the eye of an Older Member from the Next Level and do their best to apply all the lessons given and to satisfy and please that Older Member, which that same individual then demonstrated via the incarnation named, Moses and Elijah and Jesus (according to TI) and finally in the new name (as prophesied) as “Do” that actually graduated Him to the Throne his Father (TI/Father/Jehovah) occupied before then (that He came incarnate in a female vehicle to coach/birth him through as it describes in Rev chapter 12).

It seems clear that TI and DO through their task of fulfilling the prophecy of the Two Witnesses had as their schoolroom the part of the U.S. west of the Mississippi River extended to the Pacific ocean and that is described as the “temple” area in Rev 11:1 where the altar area, tailored off the design of the Tabernacle and Altar in the Moses encampment, was the southwest part of that “temple” area, from Texas to Southern California where the Next Level intentionally crashed some of their more primitive spacecrafts that included for some discarding/sacrificing the physical bodies they had before coming, bodies they were possibly awarded by graduating while serving on Jesus’ student crew, but which were not yet adult Next Level vehicles. Do said they still needed to overcome more areas of their remaining humanness, which they did at the time of their exit in 1997 with the timing of the Hale Bopp Comet’s perihelion, that probably had a spacecraft in it’s tail headed by TI to pick them up, as they ascended out of their human vehicles, for the invisible “spirit/mind birth” Jesus described they would experience by overcoming the new human vehicles (flesh birth) they would take over.

However, in Rev 11:2 the “court” is left out for it is given to the Gentiles (Greek ethnos= a multitude from the same genus, the human family, a tribe, nation, people, foreign to the overcoming process which is where they were seen as non-Jews, though remember Jesus said he was giving the Kingdom of God to a new ethnicity because the Jewish leadership had repeatedly failed by killing all the Next Level members (Old Testament Prophets) sent to their area and their kind. Thus, I suspect the “court” is primarily the part of the U.S. that is east of the Mississippi River. Now that’s not to say these divisions are absolute. When TI and DO had us do public meeting in 1975-6 and 1994 we held meetings all over the U.S. though most were west of the Mississippi river where the attendance was by far better. And TI and DO were thorough in even being sure to send their information to a number of areas of the world outside the U.S. to include Canada, England, Scotland and Australia and of course via the internet to anywhere and everywhere as they always sought to be thorough according to what they felt were their instructions from their Older Members. At this time in particular, someone could be from anyplace on the planet when they hear/read the information from TI and DO.

So if the Mississippi river is the counterpart of the Euphrates, it too will be drying up at this time during the 6th Seal with the fulfillments of the 6th Trumpet announcement for this time that includes the 6th pouring out of the cup or vial (of medicine) on the U.S. that takes the shape of “burning up” the U.S. “temple” and “courtyard” areas of the U.S. and E.U./Middle East, with forest fires, volcanic eruptions, ash clouds and violent overflowing unrestrained passions – virtual war zones in the streets, etc. as people can’t help but be what they have become having sided with the BEAST and/or it’s IMAGE having accepted their MARKS, Number or Name, whether consciously or not, while those who remain as dissidents are subject to persecution and living outside the show of loyalty to the BEASTS systems that will put them in better stead with the Next Level. A number of mass killers in the last 15 years or so have said in so many words that they were performing a “necessary evil” which shows the way evil is self devouring of itself (though a growth acceleration catalyst for those who stand against it).

Thus the “kings of the east – the sun’s rise” (those who RISE (STAND) for the “Son”) – the direction from which Jesus indicated he and his Next Level crew come from – “as a star light (even comet) shining from the east to the west” as his SIGN, would be those who had by this time given themselves in service to TI and DO, standing in defense of them and accepting the consequences that could result in the death of their vehicle as those in allegiance to the IMAGE of the BEAST would see these as blasphemous and would feel their God would want them to wipe them out so they can’t influence others, just as was the case with Jesus and his disciples and those that became new disciples of the real Jesus teachings thereafter.

This can even be seen in a practical way, as by this time the U.S. may have become totally anarchistic because those who were most in bed with the BEAST would have by this time fled into their underground facilities, while leaving their security forces to still try to keep people from raiding still existing stores of food, etc. There may be very limited electricity and gasoline may be very scarce. Those that had been standing for TI and DO on the internet largely before this time, having understood about this time coming, may be living in camps and/or on the street wherever they can having left all behind as they would not find many who thought the way they do. If the task of a TI and DO student is to “stand in defense of TI and DO” and the only way they can do that is to travel town to town looking for “lost sheep” to share the truth with then I would say they would be “on foot under the holy city” as it says in Rev 11:2, which appears to be for a 42 month period.

This would also seem to be after the Rev 18:21 “like a great millstone cast into the sea” event(s) that seems to take down the grid, except for those associated with the BEAST the security forces and corporate providers of goods to those. So I doubt the dissidents would be traveling the highways and bridges, plus we don’t know how many of those systems would have collapsed by then anyway.

So to have the Mississippi River dried up would mean they could walk across it to make their way to the “encampment or camp of the saints” that I will address in a bit, but for now it seems to me would be the area around and to include the “40 acre boy scout camp” that Do and Crew bought near the town of Manzano, New Mexico where they started building what they called their, Earthship designed building as a “Monastery Fortress” that was to include, a bakery, a pharmacy (that is hard to understand unless it was to be a more naturalist/herbal pharmacy or of some equivalent, as I can’t imagine a typical drug pharmacy), AND A LOOKOUT TOWER amidst a nutri-lab (kitchen), mess hall and showers, where they had separate bunk houses. (When the bought this old Boy Scout CAMP it had a “large metal building,” “three bunk houses,” “a baseball diamond” and “drinkable well water” and lots of pine trees).

TI and DO were not against using pharmaceuticals but did so very sparingly as needed. For instance, when we had a bad cold rather that have a runny nose to pollute others by, we were sometimes given an antihistamine to dry up the mucus. And for some who had headaches they had a variety of off the shelf products, though all were dispensed through channels unless someone had their own prescription. When we had any kind of surgery – for me, dental, I took the antibiotics prescribed and pain killers as needed. Do had hernia surgery in 1985 (after TI left) but I don’t know what medications he took for that. But Brnody who had osteoarthritis to the point that she could not walk without a walker and then was in a wheel chair took Progesterone and tried other formulations still while TI was incarnate to help with her issues. TI and DO did feel it was her lesson to experience as she hated being dependent and had a strong minded “control” influence that was her biggest booger to overcome.

However even before TI left we experimented with diets for health and had a “dispensary” where we put together a variety of ingredients as supplements, mostly during the time when we were experimenting with a liquid diet called “pink drinks.” We would add Wheat Germ and bran and lecithin powder and other things to the protein drink formula we bought. TI had us follow a modification of the Dr. Pritikin routine for a short time.

Then after TI left, Do had us experiment with many diets to cleanse the body of toxins and try to maintain maximum use of our body for the remaining time of our task that included fasting on juices, fruit diet, uncooked veggie diet, organic veggies, green drinks we made from sprouts we grew ourselves – buckwheat and sunflower and wheatgrass juice and herbal teas, homeopathic remedies, vitamins, mineral supplements, liver and kidney cleanse. TI and DO had me go for Colonic Irritations a number of times because I had this vertigo condition stimulated by the Pink Drinks. One can see what came of all this in the book the “Transfiguration Diet” the group published and eventually sold to Dr. Christopher’s son. It’s based on a mucousless diet system. It takes from all who were studied during those years in the late 1980’s and early 1990’s. So if there was to be a “pharmacy” – what I had read was quoting the group during their description of their earthship, I picture more of a natural foods way of treating disease.

So what I am suggesting is that this area might be the most likely location TI and DO might have their believers go to, when there is no Standing left to do because the internet medium becomes non-existent and people have no other facility to reach potential lost sheep.

It is after this time, during the 7th (last) vial pouring that “it is done,” followed by the largest earthquake ever on the planet and the division of the U.S. into three parts followed by a storm of 90 pound hailstones, when the BEAST and the FALSE Prophet are dissolved in the Lake of Fire and many, even most humans are killed. But the Next Level may choose to spare some to use to start the new civilization from, which Jesus perhaps alluded to as:

Mat 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

Knowing how the Next Level does pay attention to terminology and how humans can pick up on their thoughts, ideas, concepts, behaviors, ways and even certain plans perhaps, when they are in the Earth’s atmosphere, even before, during and after their incarnate presence, one could wonder if the human that came up with the term “earthship” was doing just that, or it could also be that a Next Level crew directly suggested such a way of describing that building method so they could choose that method and then could seem to relate to other of their prophecy. I forget what author first published a description of the earth as a spaceship, but it’s not a human idea. It’s from the Next Level though the avenue could have been through the Luciferian Space Aliens or like said by a human picking up on the thought, TI and DO described as being “deposited” on earth when they first prepared it to be their “garden” experiment and thereafter by each closeness of Older Members and Crew – especially when incarnate.

Wouldn’t those who come to give themselves wholly to TI and DO’s service or those who had separated from their humanness be among those who the Next Level may want to “save,” even from total physical destruction, sort of in line with what happened in Noah’s arc. The Next Level found a way to save that family and they could do it again and these would in fact be “inheriting the earth,” even the very land Do and Crew began to settle onto that they described as their “Launch pad” or “Monastery Fortress.”

Here is another indication that some flesh is spared the recycling:

Isa 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.

Even referring to it as a fortress has links to a contextual prophecy:

Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

It’s the Luciferian space aliens that had been before this time locked up again in the pit for a thousand years who are released “on the breadth of the earth” and who surround camp of the Saints, that by this time may have become a “beloved city” to the Next Level because of stemming from those they chose to allow to survive the recycling. A city is speaking of it’s occupants in a specific area and some of them may have among them Next Level graduates or more likely some who were still needing more overcoming, among them in their own student model vehicles or in human vehicles they took, sort of the way the Old Testament Prophets seemed to be Next Level students operating through or influencing human vehicles, which is why Adam and Ezekiel and Daniel were referred to by the Lord as “son of man” at times. Referring to them as the “camp of the saints” reflects how the Next Level students are always Bedouin – in transit, living in tents. Even when TI and DO’s students lived in houses, it was never in the same location for more than 6 months I would recall, though we might have changed houses a number of times in the same city. It’s not a Next Level way to set down roots in the human kingdom in any way, shape or form, though that applies more so in the last trimesters, though even still pertaining to the Moses encampment after Moses and Aaron had exited when they did set down some roots it was not very long before they were uprooted. Even hundreds of years in that context is a matter of hours in a Next Level time reference.

And as said their property near Manzano had been a boy scout CAMP. The Next Level sets up these prophecies and then also sets up their fulfillments for us to have the choice to see them or not. I could be wrong in this projection but I am “taking a chance on a positive” to disclose these possibilities and even likelihood. Even if I am wrong and the Next Level had no plan to stimulate a gathering of their believers in this end of the end time, should it come about because I’m suggesting it, the Next Level could choose to use it. Also if I am on the mark with this idea, then one can be sure the Next Level is not only relying on me to disclose it. They can go to any of their believers and visit them with a dream that suggests something similar and I’m not limiting this to that one area near Manzano, though Do did suggest that any who felt to exit the way they did in 1997 go to the southwest and scream to the Next Level to see if it’s right for them to do and have the courage to act.

But there is further evidence of a gathering of believers. Notice in:

Rev 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

This “gathering” to the battle is what is starting at about this time during this sixth seal time and it’s the humans the Next Level is gathering.

Rev 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth ((keep awake, be vigilent)), and keepeth ((guard, fig. to keep unmarried)) his garments ((clothes, raiment, robe, vesture)), lest ((in order that not)) (he) walk ((be occupied with)) naked ((nudity)), and (they) see ((look at)) his ((self)) shame ((indecently)).

Again his arrival will be at a time when one doesn’t expect and in a way that is undercover, yet not incarnate this for this LAST harvest time.

Then the verse shifts focus to those who are in his fold while referring to his return which we know is not incarnate this time and refers to those he is compelling to “watch” – keep awake, be vigilant, guard their vehicles (physical body (garment)), in other words wear “amour” against the influences that would compromise their behaviors and ways according to what Jesus and now TI and DO taught and required of their students to remain in their “classroom” – that could even include dressing modestly to not stimulate their own or others (see/express) sensual/sexual thoughts and feelings that are unseemly to someone who wants to please their Older Member and give themselves physically and mentally to their Older Member to literally become “His” bride.

Even on the literal human clothing level, in TI and DO’s classroom, males and females would wear shirts that buttoned up high near the neck and all clothing was loose fitting and shirts were worn outside of pants so to mask the shape of the body and cover skin. There were no dresses or skirts for females and we always wore underwear and females always wore a “slingshot” (bra), except to sleep it was optional, and we changed into pj’s and had robes to put over the pj’s when we would need to use the “bathchamber” during the night. There never was any nudity in the classroom except in private when bathing or changing clothing and that was done in total privacy. However, this was when we lived in “crafts” (houses) though the ideas are what’s important to apply whenever possible. TI and DO were also concerned with blending in some when seen in public but that was to not raise suspicions among neighbors or employers so we could continue our task without interference. Yet it was always a balance that TI and DO would help us keep. For instance there were times when a student who had a job in the world that specified needing to wear a skirt or suit and tie would do so as an exception but that might also prompt them to have us look for a job that didn’t have such requirements on any regular basis. (The suit didn’t seem to matter – it was the skirt that I believe came into question).

Then as if to still be referring to these who are his believers:

Rev 16:16 And he gathered ((lead to collect/convene, assemble)) them together ((lead to collect/convene, assemble)) into ((among)) a place ((5117 topos= spot (general in space, but limited by occupancy), X plain, quarter, + rock, fig. condition, opportunity, specially, a scabbard)) called ((bid, called forth, (whose, whose sur-)name (was called))) in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon ((Ar Har= loom up, as in a mount, mountain (from) “a place of crowds,” (a great multitude), a plain, valley (between Mount Carmel (north of Los Angeles, California?) and Nazareth (Spur, Texas?).

These verses thus show a gathering or two gatherings that include two groups of people he refers to some as sheep and some others as goats:

Mat 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
Mat 25:32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
Mat 25:33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

In the rest of Matthew chapter 25 Jesus outlines a distinguishing of who is a sheep and who is a goat. The sheep helped people, strangers, sick, those in prison, gave them food and drink while the goats did not as the criteria in this LAST HARVEST WAVE that would seem to apply to those most who never heard of TI and DO, for the Next Level to save their spirits or souls by.

Since he says to watch for his coming it does seem it is from this point onward that he could show up with his Armada as the most apparent show of His Next Level kingdom’s reality and thus in full “glory” (brilliance of light).

So I would say that the events of the start of the Sixth Seal that includes not only seeing the Temple opening that sends the Kings of the earth and all those in allegiance with them to hide underground (from the Face of the Throne and Lambs Wrath) is about to reach it’s conclusion ahead of the 1000 years by the appearance of TI and DO’s “ark” – the spacecraft Holy City, New Jerusalem (as opposed to the earthling city/vicinity newly named new “Jerusalem” (city of God’s angels – Los Angeles, CA). This “ark” has been hinted at existing since John’s Revelations but especially during the 20th century and even more so since TI and DO and Crew have exited their incarnations in 1997, not only with talk but as of at least 2013 with space telescope photography I’ve seen noted in one regular broadcaster’s description of what he called Hercolubus that looked like a giant duck shaped body, which is interesting that several comets also seem to have that shape. Talk of Nirabu is in the mix with continued space photography and calculations of orbital changes that seem to point to a sizable unseen object(s) as the cause.

The latest report I’ve seen in July of 2016 while Saturn and it’s NASA probe are getting more press, was a video from a space telescope trained on Saturn’s outer rings that showed an “hourglass” shaped massively large object that was moving while not in any kind of orbit. Again that’s a curiosity in the way a hourglass shape can also look like that silly depiction of comets as having a duck body shape that is not unlike an hourglass.

In what seems to be another of many amazing potential revealings; I had been asking TI and DO for help to understand Saturn’s role, because of how TI and DO had Ollody the classrooms primary artistic painter draw and airbrush Saturn with it’s rings that is shown on the website. I sought the definition of Rev 20:3’s use of the English word “season” as how long the Luciferian space aliens would be “loosed” for, said as for a “little season” after the 1000 years they were locked up which is after all is “done” as far as Next Level voices, etc. and learned it was from the Greek word, Chronos translated mostly in the New Testament to “time.”

Well, Chronos is related to Kronos which is related to Zeus in Greek mythology who is “Father Time,” though there is all sorts of debate on whether these are speaking of the same individuals and if they are the mythology seems to be based on a previous civilizational experiment because throughout the stories there are Beings depicted having animal bottoms and legs with human or serpent, (even many) heads and most often having wings to even depict Kronos/Chronos – Saturn/Zeus.

I’m certain there was as much confusion in the origin to those stories as we see in today’s science fiction, though it is all from a factual basis in how the Next Level maintains Their “garden” to grow Souls upon and supply the ones who fell away like Ophioeus by battling for earth with Zeus (aka Zas) and Chronos – who work together and are immortal unlike other “god” depictions. In this brief study, I came upon a painting by Ernst Panofsky entitled, “Father Time” that among other depictions placed an hourglass on top his head. Thus to me this was a type of answer that even went with David Icke’s talk that Saturn was a giant frequency transmitter that was nothing new to me to think about because of what TI had said about all the planets, but given only Pluto and Saturn were really depicted as having a particular focus in the paintings that were first designed to be in their first movie script attempt I would say that Saturn is the great timer.

Thus it’s all during this sixth seal time that because of the availability of seeing these objects, perhaps even without NASA as that is often another way of discounting their existence, though that’s fine as those may not have any Next Level mind in them anyway if they can discount things so easily, that both the “sheep and the goats” will be gathering. It seems clear this is not the same gathering as is depicted in Rev 20:8 that indicates is after the 1000 years when the Luciferian space aliens are once again locked in some underground location(s), though I suspect that location may well be the same location started around the time of this 6th vial’s pouring out during the Sixth Seal time period.

Do wrote about Armageddon as the entire battle for Souls between the Next Level and the Luciferian Space Alien fallen angels. It was set up this way so each human Soul could choose what they wanted to become fairly.

As most all prophecy seems to have layers of truth and especially applicable to something more physical. For instance when breaking up the word, Armageddon we get, Ar = “tower and/or city and/or hill” at Megiddo, a valley in Palestine but in this context seems to most apply to the new “temple” area in the southwestern U.S. where all this has been happening primarily, that is in terms of the believers in TI and DO who are gathered. Note how part of the design that was quoted in the article I read from the people who related to Do and some in the crew who had rented office space in Manzano in 1995-6 listed among the design of their “Monastery Fortress” a “LOOKOUT TOWER” which is yet another match for the terms used from the Hebrew and/or Greek translation of Armageddon.

Plus when we as a classroom first moved to Albuquerque, New Mexico where we had a little house downtown and then a bigger house in the northern suburbs – and where Do and his “Helpers,” Lvvody and Jnnody, had a craft during part of that time, Do reflected on how he and TI always felt especially drawn to a “triangular area” that I recall included Mountainaire (just south of Manzano) to I believe Carizozo southeast of Mountainair and then most important to this entire premise, northwest to Magdalena (which is west of Socorro along highway 60). Twenty four miles east of Magdalena along highway 60 is where the “Very Large Array” was built between 1973 and 1980 that consists of 27 25-meter radio telescopes in a Y-shaped array in the Plains of St. Augustine where the UFO Crash known as Roswell actually occurred (and there seems to be evidence of two crashes in that area at that same time near to June 14, 1947 into early July, with the earlier date associated more with Socorro, NM.

Incidentally Do, before he was awakened had served in the signal corp of the Army and was stationed in White Sands Missile Base for part of his service. He was also stationed in Salzburg, Austria and told his students he knew that very spot where Julie Andrews was filmed singing the opening song in the Sound of Music musical.

But Magdalena has it’s name origin from “Lady on the Mountain” which was a rock face some Spanish soldiers noted as the profile of a woman that reminded a priest of a similar peak in Spain called “La Sierra de Maria Magdalena,” so he called this New Mexico mountain face, “La Sierra de Magdalena.” This name originated from Mary Magdalene – close disciple of Jesus in a female vehicle, (of which there were at least 7 using female vehicles at that time). Magdala, the Aramaic means “tower” and “fortress” and by the way is also related to the name Miriam that is Hebrew for “Mary” which means, “rebellion” – from what has become the Luciferian misinformation mind NORM, as those that come out of her (The BEAST) who will have left behind the BEAST’s world dominion to gather in that area of New Mexico making them rebels of the Luciferian run system.

Some Geographic parallels, based in part on the way all plagues/calamities are DOUBLED in their application to the earth’s people:

Based on the location of Megiddo, Israel, in comparison with Magdalena, New Mexico being the TWO areas spoken of as Armageddon, if one drew a line from Mount Carmel, Israel, (north of Jerusalem) (where Elijah called down fire from Heaven on the priests of Baal), to Nazareth, Israel, where Jesus vehicle was born, it has almost an identical appearance to a line drawn from Carmel, California to Spur, Texas where Do’s vehicle was born. And both lines fall just north of the towns of Megiddo, Israel and Magdalena, New Mexico, putting the Valley of Megiddo, east of Megiddo which is the vicinity in the triangle TI and DO felt something significant about that encompassed Magdalena/Socorro, to Manzano/Mountainair – near their earthship “camp” “fortress” with the third part of the triangle near Carizozo, New Mexico. It’s simply interesting to see these relationships, since Jerusalem and Carmel, Israel are on the Mediterranean coast just as Los Angeles and Carmel, California are on the Pacific ocean.

To recap, Rev 20:7-9 says Satan, the Devil, the Dragon, which appears to be speaking about all Lucifer’s associates who also “fell” so are also “adversaries” against the Next Level, are once again locked up underground/undersea on earth for 1000 years is then loosed out of his prison and goes out to deceive the nations in the four quarters of the earth, the people spoken of as Gog (the “prince” of darkness and associates and human descendents in league with him and any hybrid vehicles they engineered) and Magog (primarily the northern regions in the old Jesus and before classroom territories around the Caucasus mountains, east, west and north around the Dead Salt Sea focused today on Turkey where the Euphrates river starts, and in the current Next Level classroom North American region, seemingly all around the Magdalena, Manzano and Mountainair triangle.

Re: the Triangular area formed by three towns in New Mexico: I don’t actually recall the exact triangle of towns TI and DO felt drawn to, except that I know they were in the general vicinity of these three towns listed. The primary clue was Do and Crews establishing their “monastery fortress,” the closest town being Manzano where they also spoke with locals and leased office space for their computer business. That on top of Magdalena, New Mexico’s name etymology and it’s close similarity in meaning and sound to Ar-Mageddon where a “gathering” was portrayed of both the Lower Forces and those who were compelled to .”..watcheth, and keepeth his garments…” in Rev 16:15-16 at the end of the 6th vial being poured out and other evidence of similarities between the Middle East area and this New Mexico area.

But it would appear that it wasn’t from Do’s mind to limit where we might exit from as he said the “west and southwest U.S. was the preference but not necessary. He said this in His “press release” dated 3-22-97 where he also said there was “a “brief window of time” that the gate would be opened to “follow them” and there was nothing said after that to indicate how long “brief” would be. They spoke of time in relationship to the “day (Next Level time frame) to 1000 years (human time frame), thus a hour equals about 40 years human time.

But the descriptions of Magog that are included mostly in Ezekiel chapter 38 when applied to the U.S. seem to indicate the Rocky Mountains being like the Caucasus Mountains “in the North” but between two large bodies of water which would seem to be the Great Salt Lake and the Great Lakes region with the Mississippi river like the Euphrates river as where the forces against the CAMP OF THE SAINTS AND THE BELOVED CITY come from to wage their last battles.

The SAINTS refer FIRST to TI and DO’s graduate Souls, the 38+4 who gave their lives in service to TI and DO, though could include any who also did so after them by “standing in defense of TI and DO” from their exit to date as they are put to the test starting with the “fourth green (harvest) horse.” Thus the “beloved city” would be those gathered as stated in Rev 16:16 in that same area. As a result of their mounting their attack on the camp of the saints and beloved city, the Next Level at this time destroys them by sending fire down from heaven, reminiscent of Elijah calling fire down from heaven to destroy the vehicles of those who were serving a “false god.”

This verse is followed by the Dragon/Devil being forced to join the BEAST and the FALSE Prophet in the LAKE OF FIRE for an everlasting torment, which is the SECOND DEATH – the death of the Soul.

Further examination of this idea that Armageddon will come to be the gathering of the believers in TI and DO focused on the “city Magdalena” and vicinity in New Mexico is also evidenced though the records of the Old Testament prophet Zechariah, starting especially with chapter 12 where there are many references to what will come to pass “in that day” that in it’s context seems to be related to this END TIME battle in the Valley of Megiddon. The context is the Lord speaking to Zechariah that show some links to a number of Revelations prophecy delineations:

Zec 12:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

Jerusalem in this context consists of the real “church” – all who had become believers in TI and DO whose souls were in seasons past the same souls who believed and worked for the Father and Jesus and Jehovah and Moses and had taken or were still taking over human vehicles to Stand for TI and DO. It also pertains to the new area that had been designed for these souls to dwell in and overcome their humanness within, which has been in the United States territory.

Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace ((favor, pleasant, precious, (well-)favored)) and of supplications ((entreaty, earnest prayer)): and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn ((tear the hair and beat the breasts, lament, wail)) for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

The pouring out of GRACE AND SUPPLICATION could describe the way the U.S. was “blessed,” as in “America, America God shed his GRACE on thee…,” was FAVORED by the Next Level for Their RETURN incarnate that included making it become the new “land of milk and honey” to attract people from all over the planet, that included the descendents of the “house of David,” those of Jewish heritage, that emigrated to the U.S. and those descendents of those who turned into followers of Jesus – labeled the New Jerusalem (where the Two Witnesses are subdued and lay down their own lives as said in Rev 11:7).

Saying these will “look at me whom they have pierced” further substantiates that this “day” is AFTER Jesus is “pierced,” as was prophesied before it happened. Jesus had nails driven into this feet and hands and was stabbed in the side. Thus it also indicates those same Souls and/or new leaves on the same genetic branches that pierced him would be back as their “resurrection of damnation” (Joh 5:29), who would also benefit from that FAVOR AND ENTREATY (grace and supplication):

Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

Also it indicates at that time when they see him who they pierced they will “mourn.” First they see the SIGN in Heaven, the Hale Bopp Comet and the “mourning” comes because it was met with Do and 38 students laying down their lives voluntarily and leaving joyful video’s showing their state of mind and how they were claiming to be the return of the Next Level. The nation was in a type of mourning, being very disturbed over it all, not that they were all sad about it – some certainly were for whatever reasons but because it was so bizarre and shocking an event. It is after that that they see the One who was incarnate in the name of Jesus coming “as a thief” and hidden by “cloudiness” (cloud of Light) but in a show of great power this time and in a very bright white appearance Do conjectured could be an “armada” of spacecrafts as indicated by Revelations chapter 19.

Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Then again, referring to “in that day,” speaking again of “mourning” compared with a great battle in the valley of Megiddon that happened well before Jesus was incarnate but entailed a great amount of bloodshed which matches the prophecy of the “winepress”:

Rev 14:20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.

Zec 12:11 In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.

Remember everything happens in “double” so there is mourning in both the Old and New terrestrial Jerusalem with the U.S. one called the City of God’s Angels (Los Angeles).

Note within the verses I’ve noted, I put parentheses around words included by the translators as the word “apart” was mentioned only one time. The word “apart” indicates separation:

Zec 12:12 And the land shall mourn, every family ((tribe)) apart ((separation, part of the body, branch of a tree, chief of a city)); the family of the house ((court)) of David (apart, and their) wives ((0802 ‘ishshah= woman, wife, married, female, each, every)) (apart); the family of the house of Nathan (apart, and their) wives (apart);

The “land” pertains to the people of that land who are mourning the SEPARATION they felt from their human family units when they first joined with TI and DO in 1975 and during the second public meetings time in 1994. They also mourned because they saw the event as a waste, many assuming these students were naive victims because they couldn’t imagine that Do was in fact the one who was incarnate last in the vehicle named Jesus. They had mostly been taught that Jesus was a religious figurehead and/or an etheric “spirit” who floats around in the clouds as a supernatural (etheric) figure or human made into a myth or a total fabricated story or that he wouldn’t be coming back incarnate, not even often thinking that is a possible reality.

TI and DO did talk about the Next Level as another dimension but not an etheric one like the spirit world. Next Level Members can defy what to humans are natural laws as Jesus demonstrated by literally defying gravity in the depiction of him floating above the waves in the storm while his disciples witnessed it and when we rose from the ground to be received by the clouds out of their sight and by his appearing and disappearing in the upper room where they gathered and didn’t see him come in with them or leave with them, as some of the many examples that must have existed that John in his gospel said were too many to list.

In other words Next Level Members who have even converted their physical human vehicle by a metamorphosis simply have more functions natural to them but that would be “supernatural” to a human who has not been taken through the process to grow their Soul deposit into a new body that upon receipt of a final ingredient “in a twinkling of a eye” can demonstrate these qualities while still able to appear and function in humans ways – eating and drinking, talking, walking as Jesus also demonstrated and yet had some touch him to show he was NOT a spirit but was still flesh and bone. Those that witnessed these things were given that proof because they were not ready to make the same transition yet – like Jesus said they have to be “born again” the real meaning being they would need to take over a new human level flesh body (water birth) in order to finish their overcoming lessons to be “born of spirit” – spirit being equivalent to Mind and thus from their Older Member’s (Holy) Mind, by abiding by all the words and behaviors and ways provided them by their incarnate Older Member who was absolutely needed to complete their process – as TI and DO referred to as a midwifing task.

However those that witnessed these things with Jesus were also logging the facts into their “Soul deposit pocket/container” so that about 2000 years later when they began to be awakened by the same returning Older Member (this time with his “Father) there would be no need for proof, though they would still be challenged to override the vehicle’s programming that such things as Jesus was depicted to do might be doubtful. If they failed to override all their doubts they would not be ready to graduate.

A human being is at this time “natural” to the earth, though started as a mutation of sorts from a Next Level Member (Adam) and thus to be Above Human would be a “Superior” condition, as Jesus also indicated of all new graduates into the Next Level compared with even the greatest humans, referring to John the Baptist as the greatest human in that example as he too hadn’t yet graduated into adult Next Level Membership.

A woman is first defined as a progenitor and in Old Testament law to participate in that generation of new “leaves” on that branch of the human tree was a commitment to one. But Jesus started the thinking of the lesson plan to begin to separate from that human condition to where during this third trimester time no one remains married to anyone but their Older Member.

Zec 12:13 The family of the house of Levi (apart, and their) wives (apart); the family of Shimei (apart, and their) wives (apart);
Zec 12:14 All the families that remain ((to swell up, cause to make, (be) left, let, remnant, reserve, the rest)), every family (apart, and their) wives (apart).

This would appear to be speaking to the way Jesus said it would be again like in the time of Noah and/or something that would occur quickly and suddenly, like Jesus said his return “in glory” would also be “as a thief” that would require of those who feel his call to “leave all behind” because of, as said:

Luk 17:29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
Luk 17:30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
Luk 17:31 In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.
Luk 17:32 Remember Lot’s wife.
Luk 17:33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.
Luk 17:34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
Luk 17:35 Two (women) shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Luk 17:36 Two (men) shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

This next verse can seem to be showing how the Next Level “gathers” the enemy to Magdalene (City/Tower mageddon). The Lower Forces shown here as Eagles (birds), being Souls – the ones we know of as the Luciferian Space Aliens who know where Next Level Souls are (The “BODY” (Church)) because they seek to steal them to their camp as they can not create souls and souls have more capacity to circulate in the first “heaven” – within the earth’s atmosphere/environment:

Luk 17:37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.

“Women” are described as part of these families/tribes. Since the Wives/Women were also listed separately for each of these tribes indicating they remained – (be) left, remnant, reserve, the rest, it would seem this is not really about the gender, but in how the men or all would be separating from their former responsibilities to their human families. After all, it is the way of the Next Level program, when called for those who feel/hear the call, if they choose and have a family, wife, to separate from them and that responsibility in order to give their all to their incarnate Older Member who does the calling.

Jesus spoke to this fact regarding his disciples:

Mat 19:27 Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore?
Mat 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Mat 19:29 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name’s sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.

However, this mourning is happening successive to those first fruit’s souls separating from their human families, where “woman” relates to what Jesus said as the mammalian part of the human kingdom, prospective members of the Next Level need to leave behind, separate from, discontinue the marriage and sexual relationships with:

Luk 23:27 And there followed him a great company of people, and of women, which also bewailed and lamented him.
Luk 23:28 But Jesus turning unto them said, Daughters of Jerusalem, weep not for me, but weep for yourselves, and for your children.
Luk 23:29 For, behold, the days are coming, in the which they shall say, Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the paps which never gave suck.

Luk 21:23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.

Rev 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

One can wonder why being “not defiled with women” describes these overcomers, as if to say one can be “defiled” with men and still please the Next Level. I believe it has to do with the lesson plan for those souls who take over male human vehicles, consistent with the instructions in the Moses classroom and the Jesus classroom. The second part of that verse indicates that all of these who are Standing on Mt. Zion/Sion – the parched area in the new land where the Older Members came incarnate – the U.S. west and southwest as part of completing their metamorphosis to be rewarded with an Adult Next Level “fine linen” vehicle MUST as TI and DO said, “RECOVER THEIR VIRGINITY” – become consistently celibate of mind and body – giving themselves entirely to their Older Member, in specific Do as their first Link but equally to TI. TI and DO did say that those who have an attraction to the same gender as their own vehicle have overcome gender consciousness, yet if they remain sexual in the mind and/or body show they still must overcome their sexuality to meet the requirements for graduation with that class.

These indications of separation from one’s human family also relate to what is called the FIRST RESURRECTION:

Mat 22:30 For in the resurrection ((386 anastasis from anistemi 450 (noun – the People, place and thing as an event for these to)= stand up again [entering into to take control of a human vehicle prepared for them (their Soul)])) they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

Note how in Rev 14:1 the 144,000 are “standing” on Mt. Sion/Zion and are thereafter described as not being defiled with women, a reference to sexuality, while also becoming virgins – by scripture “un-married” – a recovery of virginity having nothing to do with never having been married or engaged in intercourse which was a Luciferian twist put on the idea.

Mrk 12:25 For when they shall rise ((450 anistemi= (verb) to stand up again)) from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.

Lke 20:34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
Lke 20:35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection ((386 anastasis= stand up again)) from the dead (([the normal state of a human vehicle unless it’s given to awaken])), neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
Lke 20:36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.

The RESURRECTION or RISE FROM THE DEAD, also translated as “to STAND UP AGAIN” as an INCARNATION which is actually the process of a returning Soul taking over a human vehicle that was prepared for them by the Next Level and according to TI and DO “chose” by the returning Soul with the Next Level’s help to provide a “match” with that Souls growth and thus what they most need to still overcome of their human mammalian kingdom allegiance, behavior and ways, (as Jesus taught and demonstrated the second trimester lesson plan to. This RESURRECTION is only spoken of in the Revelations in one timeline context I have found, which is AFTER the BEAST (U.S. led Global Government – whose main mouthpiece is the Dragon/Serpent – Luciferian Space Aliens) and FALSE PROPHET (“Holy” See/Vatican/Pope and Christian Religious leadership) are cast into the Lake of Fire. This takes place after the GATHERING in Armageddon has begun by the time of the 6TH ANGELS POURING OUT OF THE VIAL (PLAGUES) that are being realized in degrees all throughout the 20th century with a surge in the first years of the 21st century around 2007 and then another around 2017 to the time of the opening of the SIXTH SEAL where humans in league with the BEAST are fleeing from “his Face.” His “face” – identity is made apparent, for every eye to see, that is when Do and his new graduate “Younger Members” of the Next Level in their Next Level vehicles (fine linen) from their brilliantly enlightened “armada” of spacecrafts, described as His return in “GLORY” as shown in Rev 19:11-14 with it’s parallel description in Rev 14:14-16.

As the GATHERING AT ARMAGEDDON is shown to be both pertaining to the time of the sixth trumpet’s sounding as stimulated and carried forth by the Two Witnesses prophecy witnessing/testimony (giving of their human lives) and then again starting with the FOURTH SEAL OPENING in 2017 with a voice (disclosure) from the Next Level to once again “give our lives” to TI and DO’s service by STANDING IN DEFENSE OF THEM amidst an even greater attack on them and their believers, that extends into the SIXTH SEAL’s opening, which are related to overall Rev 14:1’s 144,000 (or 144 and a myriad of thousands) STANDING ON ZION/SION – with the result of that last “gathering” shown finally during the 1000 years while the Luciferian Space Aliens are once again locked up under the earth and/or under the sea as shown in Rev 20 for the final battle that is a no contest and that the Next Level concludes by wiping out the humans who are drawn by the Luciferians to come against this “camp of the saints” and “holy city” occupants that apparently has it’s start with the events of the 6th Seal opening when his “FACE” is apparent and the last of the VIAL (plagues/calamities) are POURED OUT – the cup that is the reward to those in league with the BEAST.

The GATHERING isn’t spoken of as SOULS even though they are of course Souls who have taken over their human vehicles – described as having “wrapped around them-selves (their Soul body)” (clothed with white) a strong indication they currently have bodies and have separated from their human roots and are heralding the arrival of their Older Member – Do as they (the Souls/vehicles) did for Jesus arrival to Jerusalem (with palms in their hands), but this time because of the arrival of his FACE. These are spoken of as Souls that “live again” – Stand Up Again (Resurrect) in Rev 20:4-11 when yet there is that last arrival of the Older Members to administer the final judgment of the dead, having recycled the Luciferian Space Aliens beforehand.

-Rev 7:9 After ((accompanying, amid)) this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude ((ochlos= a (crowned) group or collection who have flocked together)), which no man ((not one man)) could number, of ((origin, from out of)) all nations ((ethnicity/races)), and kindreds ((tribes (of Israel (overcomers)))), and people, and tongues ((languages)), stood before ((saw the presence of, in that place)) the throne ((Older Members TI and DO)), and before the Lamb ((stood for [Do], the same Older Member who was incarnate in the name Jesus)), clothed with white ((color of ripening grain, their vehicles they have purified [sufficiently, or they wouldn’t be said to be clothed in white] by adopting the behaviors and ways of the Next Level)) robes (([their human vehicles])), and palms in their hands ((help, agency, means, activity, power [to separate from their human roots]));

As just suggested, these would seem to be those first spoken of as the saints who are (overcome, subdued, conquered, prevailed against) in, which starts to take place sometime after the DEADLY WOUND OF ONE OF THE BEASTS HEADS IS HEALED (Rev 13:3). This Head is the U.S. (New York centered American) head and is seen in the Seven Buildings of the World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks that started the time of great tribulation, though develops gradually until the 4th seal time starting in 2017, when the BEAST battles with the saints, presumably mostly on their internet STANDING FOR TI and DO, to possibly include mounting an opposition to this “little book” – Backside (dealing with the history in the form of prophecy interpretation) of the Next Level’s Information provision. The saints are all who give their lives to TI and DO’s service knowing it will result in the loss of their vehicles life, if they continue. This isn’t talking about those who graduated in 1997 because it’s well after they exited, though some of these may have been with them in their classroom between 1973 and 1997:

Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty (and) two months.

This “forty two months” could be literally 3 1/2 years said this way the same way it applied to the “forty two months” in:

Rev 11:2 But the court which is without ((outward)) the temple leave out ((without, out of doors)), and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

As with virtually all of these prophecies there are multiple applications for each of the two harvest periods that are both considered the “First Resurrection” as it started with TI and DO and their FIRST fruit harvest and ends with the same standard applied to those who come after in the LAST fruit harvested. In both cases and time periods depicted can be translated with “months” as the Greek “men” of 3375 or 3376 both spelled the same and both sounding the same but with one said to stem from yet a third “men” with a slightly different spelling/sounding that indicates it being a “particle of affirmation.” In other words it could be saying there are 42 Souls who graduate within each of two 42 month periods in which they show their affirmation to TI and DO. It’s interesting that in Rev 11 which is primarily about the Two Witnesses and their student body is shown a depiction of the “court” – the area and people outside the “temple” grounds (west of the Mississippi River) and it’s people. The “Holy City” for this depiction would seem to be the entire U.S. – the bordered area that became hallowed (holy) ground because it was where the Older Members and their Saints came to “stand up again.” And this is also the same area where all must do their primary “standing” for TI and DO, which is done on foot both times.

In 1975 and 1994 TI and DO’s classroom held public meetings all over the U.S., so it would seem there is to be another round of public meetings in the “court” – east of the Mississippi River where there are potentially still some who could SEE TI and DO as the return of the Father and “Jesus” in new vehicles with new names, etc. This standing starts on the internet – the Mid-Heaven (Rev 14:6…”midst of heaven”) with Do and Crew in 1995-7 before they exit as it’s the “Jesus” return way of speaking to give some who still believe in the real Jesus a chance to connect to TI and DO, but this avenue via the internet may be what is lost in the war with the saints where they are “overcome/subdued” just like TI and DO were overcome and subdued, all during that 3 1/2 years:

Rev 13:6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

Of further interest is how those who “Stand for TI and DO” then become the TWO’s Witnesses to the world. TI and DO served as “The Two” so in more ways than one anyone who testifies with their life to the truth they provided is Their Witness and even though it’s not the student’s desire to have their stand met with someone’s hatred to stop them by killing their vehicle the term translated to “witness” is from the Greek “martus” – sounds like martyr and has some of that definition of giving one’s life in service to the Next Level by showing the “record” – which is what TI and DO called the Bible and what the “backside of the book” represents – as backside also refers to what is historically recorded, something that TI and DO certainly said a great deal about but did not spend hardly any time on prophecy – leaving it to this time as a lesson ground to determine who among former “Christians” still can see the truth through the massive barrage of misinformation that has become the Christian religion – now a “killer of souls” because of it’s trickery imposed by the Luciferians but sets the stage to test what each of us is made of, which is the point to the “garden experiment” – to overcome the Luciferian influence and the human evolutionary kingdom to become a Member of the Evolutionary Level Above Human.

So these have come through the time period of the 4th-6th seals, who are “slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held” and then in Rev 6:11 as .”..their fellow-servants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were,” and Rev 14:13…those who “die in the Lord from henceforth…”

As said in Rev 7:9 they “stood before the throne” (TI and DO and their Teachings are the Throne), and stood before the LAMB by showing how all Jesus teachings were fulfilled or about to be fulfilled by TI and by Do’s teachings and example during He (Do) and his Older Member TI’s promised return incarnate again as described by all the prophecy and revealings in all Jesus said in the four gospel records that are all interconnected and in context with all said in the Book of Revelations. These come out of the U.S. melting pot of races and ethnicities that came from every corner of the world, though there could be exceptions I’m sure where the Next Level has their eye on someone who is not from the U.S. or in the U.S. at this time.

However, I do have to note that there was one prospective student who got in touch with Do and the classroom in 1996 that used the name Nathaniel who Do delivered a message to, or may have spoken to him directly over the phone, but that Do suggested he come to the U.S. Do even had his helpers make note in one of the letters they sent to those who were also assisting from outside the classroom (who didn’t want to rejoin the classroom then) that Nathaniel could have one of the cars they were leaving behind and could have some of the monies also left behind with the intention being his participating in the phase of taking the task to share information about TI and DO’s teachings with the “world.” I say this because the U.S. is also where what I am calling the “extended classroom,” (more like a second trimester classroom perhaps, kin to after Jesus left) was to be held that is coming into focus more by analyzing the lead up Standing for TI and DO that would lead up to the GATHERING in the Magdalena, Manzano, Mountainaire area when there is no longer a way to STAND for TI and DO because of the dissolving of the infrastructures around automobile travel so those giving testimony will be literally on foot perhaps so then knowing of this prophecy interpretation may head to this area noted that is west of the Mississippi River thus even more so part of the “Holy City” area since that is where TI and DO felt most connected to their Older Member and helpers in spacecrafts.

These are “clothed in white robes” which is described in a few verses as, “made them white in the blood of the Lamb” which means they “took up their cross” and “drank the cup of the wine (blood)” – shed their blood STANDING FOR THEIR OLDER MEMBERS as the Lamb and His students stood for, who were incarnate last in the names TI and DO.

This voluntary laying down of one’s life by choosing to STAND FOR TI and DO is also shown by their carrying the palm tree branch that Jesus believers took up to show solidarity with him when he returned to Jerusalem to “lay down his life.” That palm tree branch originally seemed to represent the “separation” from one’s roots to the earth and human kingdom, which the Next Level began to mentally prepare the children of Israel for by one time a year instructing them to live in “booths” – temporary shelters – like tents and this event was called the feast of tabernacles (dwellings) where their structures were built from branches that included palm tree boughs.

TI and DO are the “throne.” Standing “before” Them means STANDING UP FOR – (believing in and expressing) ALL THEY TAUGHT in their “presence.” This point of doing this STANDING in their PRESENCE is very important but one can wonder how we can be in the presence now that they exited their incarnations. In one way, of course they are present because their faces are still in the news on occasion even though they are seen as evil cult leaders. They are present when we tell people about them and point people to Do and Crews videos and TI and DO’s classroom audios and all their writings and the still present web site. Then they are “present” when we see all the signs in the “sun, moon, stars (planets),” etc. they have been providing us since their exit in 1997 mostly starting with the Hale Bopp Comet great “sign.” Still signs are left to ones discernment of their presence. Yes, these are all degrees of presence but can’t be denied remains for the duration of the seals which is how more will come to awaken to the truth.

When it says as part of the 6th Seal’s opening:

Rev 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
Rev 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

As Jesus also referenced as:

Luke 23:30 Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall on us; and to the hills, Cover us.

These People of the Earth are seeking to HIDE from his FACE, his Identity, the reality of Living Beings over them, some even possibly identifying in their minds with the face of the vehicle Do was last incarnate in. I suspect this is part of Do’s coming with his Armada of brightly lighted large spacecrafts to let their presence be known in a way that is almost impossible to deny, though who or what people think will be a big test. Some may even believe it’s TI and DO but they might see TI and DO as representatives of the evil space aliens, even reptilians coming to destroy the earth. Then even Christians who could see these as the fallen angels, a Luciferian manifestation, or a spiritual or holographic delusion will in any respect hate it, so much so that they might go after anyone who even suggests otherwise, which TI and DO true believers could be persecuted and/or even killed if they stand up for Them. At some point I suspect the internet will no longer be a way to “stand” for TI and DO or for anything that is seen as dissidence or rebellion from the status quo. I suspect if there is still an internet for the general public then, World Wide Web (WWW) sites and blogs that talk about alternative thinking will probably be seen and reported as having “terrorist” affiliations or in league with revolutionaries or militia groups or radical extremists so will be banned and people could be disappeared. When that happens and people are also targeted locally where they live, and when Do and Crew show their presence it will certainly be a huge signal to leave all behind and head to the area in New Mexico I’ve outlined, while humans are moving into their underground facilities to escape at the same time.

But to recap what it means to say these “stood before the throne, and before the Lamb” relates to how Do through Jwnody’s document ‘”Away Team” from Deep Space Surfaces Before Departure’ describes the “formula” to start one’s metamorphosis (wash one’s robe – their human vehicle) while also describing the requirements to be “saved” as:

(Paraphrased to not risk dealing with the webmasters who have been suppressing audio tapes and  brought a law suit against Rkkody’s distribution of audio tapes and threatened anyone with a law suit if they break their copyright laws and have also been speaking things against what TI and DO taught – the details of which are on links in the Appendix of this book. As far as I know they have not changed the content of the website where the book that contains this document exists but it can also be found on my blog in total at:

Away Team from Deep Space Surfaces Before Departure By Jwnody

But here is my paraphrasing of it:

The formula as it was 2000 years ago for the most serious Jesus students that begins one’s metamorphosis to be born into the Next World requires each of us to abandon everything of this world. (This is compared to how the caterpillar must abandon it’s caterpillar ways to become a new creature as a butterfly). Each of us must separate and begin to wean ourselves of ties and addictions to mammalian ways. We must seek as best we can the guidance from a Member of the Next Level who has completed the metamorphosis before and has that task to birth new members into His Kingdom. Or, at the least one must attempt to connect with a student of an incarnate Older Member of the Next Level who is active in this same metamorphic process.

Jwnody reports that there is a small period of time left to catch the eye of those that Created and care for this world. To have one’s Soul or Spirit saved for a future planting – the overriding condition to qualify is to accept these statements from TI and DO’s Mind are true which is also knowing they are the facts.

One must believe TI and DO and Crew represent the Kingdom of Living Beings that created the earth and all it’s occupants. One must also be willing to stand up in defense of that belief. And one must be willing to maintain that stand until their exit of their human vehicles, no matter how that occurs.

(That concludes that paraphrasing)

This statement is another way of looking at what Do called the THREE TYPES of those who would “go with them” when they leave – to escape the recycling.

Finally, on this point of what the Next Level requires of those of us who want to make application to their overcoming classroom Do says in a videotape given on September 29, 1996 He labeled “Last Chance to Evacuate Earth Before It’s Recycled” that there are in summary:

Three types of individuals that can avoid the spading under at the end of an Age are:

– Those who leave everything of their human lives behind to graft to the Representative from the Level Above Human (Do) and complete their overcoming of their humanness.
– Those who recognize the Representative, recognize the information of the Next Level that is coming through the Representative, knowing it is true, and have not yet had the strength to complete their overcoming of their humanness.
– Those who recognize the information of the Next Level and are attempting, even without knowing of the Representative’s presence, to break away in their own way.

(I strongly suggest reading or viewing the entire document and/or video to get the most accurate perspective on this directly from Do.)

(Some thought “go with us” meant when they exited their incarnations but just like the Next Level throughout prophecy it did mean that for those “with ears to hear” – mostly for those who had been in their classroom, like myself – he was saying there was an open window for us to also lay down our lives as they did – and not actually disqualifying anyone from doing the same – as each would be rewarded according to what they have given and giving one’s life for them in specific, for TI and DO is a big giving. It didn’t mean we’d graduate to receive adult Next Level bodies necessarily as Do said some with him when they all layed down their bodies were not yet ready to receive adult Next Level bodies upon their Soul body’s arrival on the Next Level spacecraft and would have to return to finish their overcoming at a future time.

It seems from things TI and DO have said and things Jesus has said that there is more to overcoming than overcoming fear of death, though that is a huge step to undertake. If Do had meant by saying some could still “go with him/them” as those who laid down their lives, then what of those in category three who had not even heard about TI and DO. They were also to be considered to be saved from the recycling according to the Next Level’s judgment of what they had given. It becomes even clearer when considering every one of these scriptural verses that “go with them” included the time periods following those in that FIRST fruit harvest.

Suicide is not a solution. These 39+4 did not commit suicide really, that is in the human definition that includes trying to escape problems or to inflict pain on another. If we are thinking we can employ that as a quick fix, it will fix nothing. We need these bodies to learn our lessons through. Some have expressed to me they felt ready to exit as the group did, but then when they describe why it’s apparent they are trying to escape their difficult lessons that come by looking to the Next Level for help with their lessons.

Saying it’s a “great multitude” may be translated to less of a depiction of great numbers, as TI and DO said the Next Level doesn’t have millions of members, they have thousands of members – I believe speaking of those who had graduated to full adult membership but perhaps including certain student members like Lucifer and those that renegaded with him once had been. So I choose to translate the Greek “ochlos” to a “group or collection or flock of people” and where it says “great” can simply mean mighty in their graft to their Older Member, the “Lamb” – but then again it may be a sizable group like 144,000 but in reference to their being OF as in “origin from,” nations, kindreds, people and tongues, not an inclusion of them all.

Saying no humans would be able to put a number on them, could refer to their not taking the “number of the beast,” possibility the digitized identification as in an RFID chip as some may increasingly accept. Another way this number could be interpreted is because humans would not be able to recognizable who was giving themselves to the Next Level and they aren’t necessarily in one place or as a group with a name to distinguish them from others. No group or name is needed if each individual starts and maintains their individual relationship with their Older Member who at that point is in the heavens, though whose spacecrafts may be literally in view with the naked eye by then.

The gathering in “Armageddon” seems to be pointed to that area of Magdalena and Manzano, NM, as part of the 6th vial/plague/calamity pouring out, seemingly stimulated by the physical presence “Face” of Do and Crew’s “armada,” probably at this time in view in the near space, that Jesus referred to as His coming “in his glory,” as many Christians say they anticipate, but mostly refuse to even consider as the same ONES who were incarnate in the task of the Two Witnesses, TI and DO and Crew. It seems the earthquake described in Rev 6:12 might well be the same event as depicted by the Rev 18:21 Great Millstone cast into the sea event that brings an end to the USA as we know it and those aligned with the BEAST. That Armada’s visibility to the naked eye seems to be what primarily stimulates the “gathering” to the western side of the Mississippi for those who desire to be salvaged, whether from the “Temple” or “Courtyard grounds who might then become the ancestors to those in the “camp of the Saints” in the next millennium, while the Luciferian Space Aliens are once again locked up underground.

It is the first 5 vials being poured out that seem to be the primary source of literal “fire” experienced in the USA and EU/Middle East though it is expressed as occurring in stages starting in earnest after Do and Crew exited their incarnations and then even more so during the time of the 4th seal opening in 2017 – expressed as the Green Horse named “Death” with Hell (condemnation) following for  many via the military (sword), famine (hunger, shortages, etc.), death from the BEAST – the US and One World Government (that is hiding behind the “green revolution” referred to and profited from and used as a front for organization against the Next Level who some  think are the bad aliens coming to destroy them and enslave humanity. They got the “destroy them” part correct as they are the weeds in the Next Level’s garden, but humans have already been enslaved by the Luciferian space aliens through their human equivalent saturation of misinformation upon earth’s human population.

Thus it is during these 7 vials being poured out that America (the woman) is judged and rewarded for their chosen embrace of the Luciferian misinformation mind again and this is reflected by these who were gathering who washed their robes during the tribulation time who:

-Rev 7:10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation ((rescue, safety)) to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

This verse cue’s into the application of Rev 19 in the overall timeline indicating the judgment of the “woman” that is an avenging of the bloodshed of Next Level servants:

-Rev 19:1 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:
-Rev 19:2 For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand.
-Rev 19:3 And again they said, Alleluia And her smoke rose up for ever and ever.

-Rev 7:11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,

Saying Amen in the beginning of a discourse is indicating, “verily” or truly, of a truth will follow, surely, believe, have faith as one can have absolute trust and confidence in what follows. Then when it comes at the end it’s saying the same thing but as a fulfillment, a firm close, thus perhaps more kin to where it says in other places, “it’s done”:

-Rev 7:12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
-Rev 19:4 And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia.

-Rev 7:13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
-Rev 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood ((bloodshed kin with)) (of the) Lamb.

“Bloodshed kin with the Lamb” refers to the example of laying down one’s life by speaking the truth provided by one’s Older Member, to those that they know will hate them and kill them for doing so if they persist. This is shown as what the FIRST FRUIT Souls also went through before this time, actually after Jesus laid down his life which is what gave them their crowns and made them the “saints”:

Rev 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

This part of the overcoming process was taught to the FIRST group of Souls in the Moses camp by having some sacrifice their best lamb, one that had no blemishes – representing the removal of behavior and ways unbecoming to the Next Level’s behavior and ways. Do said that those with Jesus, though they gave their lives still needed to return to overcome other characteristics of their humanness before graduating the human kingdom, namely their “Self Rightness” – confidence in self and “Sensuality” – giving away their “force” through sexuality and/or via other passions – to instead only come to depend on and trust every word from their Older Member’s mouth and only having pleasure and purpose in doing exactly the things the Older Member who is incarnate prescribes. One can be willing to lay down their life but it could be for their enhancement of self – to be “seen as something special” – even the mindset of a martyr. If one is laying down their life for any reason other than for what the latest Older Member instructed then they are doing it for themselves or for humans that would also be ultimately for themselves. Jesus taught this in regards to his laying down his life:

Joh 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
Joh 10:18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

The same condition applies to our participation in pleasures. Some could practice all forms of self discipline and abstain from all forms of indulgence for any reason, a description of an ascetic, but if they were not given to them to do by the most recently incarnate Older Member from the Next Level then they would not be necessarily adding to their complete overcoming of their humanness. In other words we must “please our Older Member.” This is what is meant by the greatest commandment being:

Mar 12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy Soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

The time here depicted as the “tribulation” comes from the Greek “thlipsis” defined as “a pressing, pressing together, pressure, metaphorically oppression, affliction, distress, straits, which referring to these who came through indicates they have “stood up” for TI and DO and/or if they never heard of TI and DO for the principals they understood as from the Kingdom of God in whatever terms, for instance for those that did not accept the marks of the beast or worked for the Beasts “image” – patriotism, spirituality, putting humanism on a pedestal, to include space aliens or spirits or ascended masters, and/or even a literal holographic image like Fatima, and also “washed their robes” meaning they ceased behaviors that broke the commandments and instructions from TI and DO and/or according to Jesus (the Lamb’s) teachings (which would not include Paul’s dilutions and distortions, though if what he said agreed 100% with what Jesus said).

Those who have come through the great tribulation would seem to also be those who were now being depicted as having made themselves ready to be married to the Lamb – the Older Member who sacrificed his human vehicles life on his “Father’s” instruction, came back and was promoted to the Throne by his Father who also came incarnate to get him started. So the Lamb with his new name was/is Do to whom these are making their full commitment to that is what “marriage” is in the Next Level’s Family.

-Rev 19:5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great.
-Rev 19:6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.
-Rev 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
-Rev 19:8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

This is stating that these would be given new Next Level grown bodies to wear (fine linen) to those that have committed themselves with their lives 100% even though they are not yet going to become adult Next Level Members until they also overcome all their humanness which doesn’t happen until they are in a classroom with a currently incarnate Older Member to be led through that overcoming process in person as were, at least, the 28 (4 Living Beings + 24 elders) of the 38+4 who graduated into their own next step, by Do on behalf of his Older Member TI’s instruction and establishment of FIRST fruit harvest by March of 1997.

So it would seem those called to the “marriage supper” would be these as well having shown they made a commitment to the real Jesus, the Older Member who served as the Lamb and was incarnate in the new vehicle named Do. Unless they never heard of TI and DO they must make their commitment to Do since he is/was the most currently incarnate representative from the Next Level. If some say to the Next Level by their thoughts and actions that they believe in Jesus then they would also recognize Do as everything Jesus taught was exemplified in what Do did and taught. This is exactly why Jesus said to certain of the Jewish leadership that if they knew Moses they would know him. They were of the same Mind – the Mind from Do’s Older Member, The Father and Jehovah.

-Rev 19:9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.
-Rev 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

Jesus testimony, his bearing witness of his Father and the true information from his Father (God) is what brings to full light all the prophecy that is the task to disseminate – stand up in our human vehicles for and lose our human vehicle for. Once again an indication that the task at hand during the LAST HARVEST WAVE – spoken of as the Great Tribulation, as shown as starting with the 4th Seal’s opening is based upon showing how TI and DO were the return of the Father and Jesus incarnate through the revealing of what was until they exited still mostly hidden from those most prepared to receive that truth, as this is to be their chance to wake up to see in a much clearer light all Jesus meant and intended for his students to have a chance to grasp. As Do said in the Beyond Human Series of tapes, still on YouTube, paraphrased, “Christians, hardly stand a chance of seeing the whole truth, because of the very thorough misinformation campaign waged against them by the Luciferian space aliens.”

Putting much of this together, according to the timing in Rev 15:8 after the verse 5 “temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened,” the 7 plagues (vials poured out) were to occur BEFORE anyone could enter into the temple in heaven which appears to be exactly shown in Rev 19:6-10 describing the group of souls who were the “bride” having “made herself ready,” described in Rev 7:14 as “washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb,” so “should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.” (Rev 19:8).

This preparation is also described in:

Rev 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

This is followed by Do’s arrival, described in:

Rev 14:14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like ((similar in appearance or character, manner)) unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

Since “son of man” referred to the incarnate Older Member with his human vehicle, this could be saying he had a vehicle that was similar to the one he exited from his disciples with but for all intents and purposes was similar.

Rev 14:15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.
Rev 14:16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

This is a match for Do’s arrival in:

-Rev 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white ((3022 leukos from luke (“light”), white)) horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

The essential difference is that he’s described as “sat on the cloud” verses .”..white horse; and he that sat upon him.” The context of “cloud” shows that he is still “undercover” of cloudiness, but described as a “white horse” behind that cloudiness, being a white light vehicle (spacecraft) as that’s what a horse depicts to a Next Level Member – a vehicle. When they are incarnate the human vehicle they take over is their “horse.” When they are not incarnate they have their own physical vehicle and then the spacecraft they dwell in is their “horse.”

TI and DO referred to our automobiles in the classroom as “horses.” For example when one needed to go into the shop for repair, they would say “red car” was in the “horsepistol” (if it happened to be “red car”). They referred to one van we had as “blue van.” Sometimes they referred to one by a manufacturers name, like “Chevy van,” or “Toyota van” but never by a model name that I recall.

So the FIRST harvest would have two parts – when the Elder Students ascended starting in March of 1997 to this time after the 6th vial is poured out which is also at the end of the 6th seal – all of which are considered to be the “oil” because of how they gave their best effort to TI and DO to stand for them and wash their robes (adopt their behaviors and ways) to include separating from their human root systems and maintaining their stand until their exit by the hands of those who would become their enemies.

Do is further described as:

-Rev 19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name ((surname, was called)) written ((graven description)), that no man ((no one)) knew, but ((if not)) (he) himself ((auto= “his own”)).

(In other words, no one knew his name except his own, those he reveals it to (Rev 3:12) and who he writes it on their forehead as it is shown occurs with his Father’s (new) name (TI) in Rev 14:1). (I suspect this would be in the particular type of “Soul deposit” each selected human vehicle receives, that is awakened when we hear their voices Mind – some keywords and/or concepts and/or ideas, information in the deposit program).

The eye is the lamp of the body. One’s vehicle’s body is filled with light upon graduation. That means filled with the truth from our Older Members that includes all our behaviors and ways while those who have not graduated yet have a mix of that “light” and the Luciferian misinformation mind (darkness). Describing Do as having eyes as a flame of fire has to do with the way his vision, his Mind is a purging fire to those who are seeking to be refined into pure gold, as TI illustrated and also compared to working the churn to produce pure butter from the milk another process that works by “friction” and “pressure” and “stick-to-it-ness” – tenacity for the needed duration of the overcoming “process” exactly as prescribed and demonstrated to date by the Older Members, TI and DO. (References to Rev 1:14 and Rev 2:18).

He has on his head many crowns because he gets a crown for every student he crowns. Every student who overcomes the human condition while in his program gets a crown. If one knows about TI and DO but chooses to take on all the same disciplines of mind and body they would be missing one most crucial ingredient that they are not “bonding/grafting” with the one assigned to midwife them whom they must please and who must also please his “Father” to be given a seat on board their spacecraft. Nor are we to judge whether or not we are succeeding adequately. As long as we keep on asking for their help and then making changes as we build the strength, no matter how we slip, though not taking that for granted either, They will help us succeed. Quitting the process entirely can halt our progress but they will even give us multiple chances to get back on Their path, as TI and DO said they did with Lucifer until he reached a point of no return.

Note in Rev 6:2 he “conquers” and then goes a “conquering.” TI described both of them but primarily Do as our “midwife.” First he is born as shown in Rev 12, born to the throne by TI and then he births their children through each of their “spirit/Soul births.”

-Rev 19:13 And he was clothed ((periballo= “to throw all around,” put on)) with a vesture ((apparal, cloak, garment, raiment, robe)) dipped ((bapto= to whelm, cover in fluid, to stain as with a dye)) in blood: and his name is called The Word ((logos from lego = cause and communication)) of God ((deity)).

He put on around his Soul body a vehicle (garment) stained in blood, which may mean the vehicle he comes back with is the vehicle he changed over and rose again with which was named Jesus but now is named, “communicating the Mind of his Older Member (TI).” TI and DO said all they ever wanted to be were “links” in the chain of mind for the Chief of Chiefs. They wanted to be “clear pipes” so that what is coming down from their Older Members is delivered to those coming up (their students) without their mind muddying it. They knew the process was set up to where their very being incarnate in a human vehicle did step down to their students that Mind from their Older Members as otherwise the students wouldn’t be able to have a working interface, but they didn’t want to add to or subtract from whatever was to be communicated in it’s purest form. We did most of our personal communication with TI and DO via little 3×5″ note papers using as many as we needed. We would fold it in half so the note had a cover page and would write on it, “Lnks.”

-Rev 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

Once again we see these are also on “white horses” – spacecrafts as they have wrapped around their Soul Bodies “white and clean” vehicles described as “fine linen” which is the reward for the righteousness of each of the saints. These are the Four Living Beings with their crew consisting of the 24 elders and however many other members of the Next Level are with them.

This would also seem to signal the time of the end of the 6th vial being poured out following the gathering for the battle (Armageddon) in the two areas around the Euphrates and around the Mississippi, who are to receive double the plagues for their rebellion against the Next Level. This time would also seem to be when the third part of humans in those same areas are “pulled up,” (their vehicles die, because they accepted the BEASTS mark or number or name worked for his image (See Rev 9:15-21).

It would also seem this time corresponds to the Sixth Seal time when it seems Do becomes visible for EVERY EYE TO SEE which is described in most detail in Rev 19:11-13 described in Rev 6:16 as his FACE (PRESENCE/Identity) being shown, right before the remainder of the 7 vials are poured out – the subsequent catastrophic events that include the biggest manifestation of the 7 plagues that is also the end of the BEAST and FALSE PROPHET in the burning up of the U.S.


With the “oil” harvested, the Souls who gave their lives to the Next Levels service through Do’s instructions, it’s time to provide the stimulus for the remainder of humans to choose who to serve based on the degree each follows Do’s instructions and firm standard or not every having heard of TI and DO separate from the world and don’t accept the marks of loyalty to the BEAST or it’s IMAGE.

Do with his team are implementing the final pressure, called the WINEPRESS upon the humans to separate the “wheat” from the “chaff,” “Tares,” “weeds” of the Garden, the “sheep” from “goats.” TI and DO once illustrated a  separation of humans, as those who want to move ahead would stay in Dallas, where we were at the time and those who wanted to move ahead would locate to Houston. In audio tape #150 recorded on 08/30/84, TI and DO clarify that they didn’t intend to use that illustration as if to say the good people should evacuate to Houston and those who didn’t want to grow from Houston should go to Dallas. It was meant to illustrate how people need to separate from those who are acting like “weeds” so they as “blossoming plants” can be among other people that have the same desires and standards of behavior and ways so they can grow better.

-Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite ((to knock, strike)) the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he ((autos= theirselves)) treadeth ((hit the path, trample, tread down under foot, smite, strike, specially, to sting (as a scorpion))) the winepress ((trough)) (of the) fierceness ((passion (breathing hard), indignation, wrath)) and wrath of Almighty God.

The Lord’s weapon (sword) is his mouth, his instruction, his provision of the truth and surfacing of the lies and deceit, because it draws the line between who has Their Next Level Mind in them enough to warrant saving and who does not, thus between staying in the running to receive true Life or being recycled in the second death – the death of the Soul and/or spirit and it is all self-regulated by what we choose to believe and work for. TI and DO said we each become exactly what we believe. The rule (rod) is compared to iron because of how its development within us makes us strong willed in Next Level ways. By application of our Older Members “rules” our Mind increases strength to overcome our human behaviors and ways which then can meet the standard each must show Him and His Father and their Crew to qualify to become a crewmember and an individual for the first time, since humans are a composite of many influences time-sharing their vehicles. All will lose their vehicles life in this process. It’s a matter of how, when and most importantly for who, which means because of who we stand for.

-Rev 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh ((Hebrew 3411 yrekah feminine of ‘yarek’ (3409); formally, the flank; but used only as a figure, the rear or recess= border, coast, part, quarter, side)) a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

There are no examples but this one for the usage of this word “thigh,” so I looked for Old Testament usage of the same English term and interestingly he suggests this name written on his thigh which is also “flank” or “side” among other options has two curious links that indicate his previous relationships with the individual he has given himself to, another aspect of the use of “thigh” as where warriors wore a badge of loyalty, where they also carried their sword. This is also the area Jehovah allowed Moses to touch him upon when he was on Mt. Sinai receiving the Commandments. It therefore is stating to whom He is loyal, who is his King of Kings and Lord of Lords, who “reared” Him into Next Level Membership and made him a King of Kings and Lord of Lords by his many tasks performed for him. And the usage of “side chamber” even goes back to when the Lord referred to as Elohim took a “side chamber” (said as rib) out of Adam’s physical body to grow Eve’s physical body from. Plus Jesus was stabbed in his “side” which was part of prophecy. All this brings together the commonness to Jesus and his Father, his Lord “God” (deity) to Moses and Jehovah of the same relationship to Adam with the same relationship to his Lord then again that were all part of this same individuals “rearing” in the earlier parts of the task which then makes some sense out of how TI said that Do had served incarnate in the names, Adam, Enoch, Moses, Elijah and Jesus as the first five Next Level times of closeness. The sixth closeness was with his Father serving in the role of the undercover incarnate Two Witnesses and the Seventh and Last closeness as the return of the one who served as the Lamb in the name Jesus who is known to us as Do of TI and DO.

This last stage referred to as the WinePress is shown in the end of Revelations chapter 14 that is the last period of time before recycling:

Rev 14:17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.
Rev 14:18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.
Rev 14:19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.
Rev 14:20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.

In the making of grape juice (wine) the skins of the grapes become waste. It is not the Next Level Crew who are doing the “treading under foot” except by setting up the circumstances in which humans and especially the human equivalent space aliens would choose to fulfill that role which is interesting that a translation of this “treadeth” is “to sting (as a scorpion) which then relates directly to Rev 9’s original announcement of this time period where the space aliens are described as having tails that sting like a scorpion and kill a third of mankind. Of course the “third” can refer to the “third part” in which case it may be all of what’s outside the USA which by this time has also been devastated. And the stinging may be more related to the way the space aliens and BEAST’s misinformation mind is poison that results in a Soul death for those that have chose allegiance to the BEAST so were not protected by the Next Level so become “food” (DNA) but even literal food for the BEAST and their Space Alien handlers – needing their “blood” even to survive underground from.

Rev 9:3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.

At the time during the Fifth Angels trumpet sounding these space aliens were only allowed to have power over those who were not sealed by God and then had their power for 5 affirmation periods (seals) (alternate translation to “months”) which did not include having the power to kill humans, that is until this sixth and seventh affirmation (seal) period.

-Rev 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
-Rev 19:18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

It seems this is the same call to GATHER as we see expressed in Rev 16:14.

-Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

Do seems to refer to this event in Session four of the Beyond Human tapes as spacecrafts coming en mass by the thousands, bringing someone to show themselves to have scars in their palms and feet and “flowing hair” and robes saying “peace on earth” and indicating they would solve all the problems on earth. He says this would NOT be Jesus and it wouldn’t be a Representative from our Father’s Kingdom. Some would buy into it though as being Jesus. There are many that are prime targets to believe him. It is a counterfeit and is one of the meanings of the IMAGE. I have wondered if it may even be a hologram that TI and DO spoke about years before they compared to the Fatima sighting and others like it – calling them “tricks.” Do talks about some going with these Luciferian space aliens – perhaps they will take the “strong weeds,” from Our Father’s point of view).

He talks about this as a harvest to where both the Next Level and the Space Aliens are coming in at different times to take their yield of fruit verses weeds into their spacecrafts. Do didn’t know this would be viewable by whoever is alive in human vehicles at that time. It might be that  many are dying because it’s Souls that the Next Level harvests and likewise for the space aliens. It could seem like the result of a plague even. The prophecy indicates only those that give their allegiance to the BEAST lose their vehicles from the first of the 7 Angels pouring out their vials.

-Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken ((to squeeze, apprehended, caught, lay hand on)) and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Here is where the BEAST is slain:

Dan 7:11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.
Dan 7:12 As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time.

This seems to relate to the time of Rev 19 when Do and Crew come back (but not incarnate again) but with their New physical vehicles and Do with the one dipped in blood, possibly the one he took with him having changed it over into a Next Level vehicle during his task incarnate in the name Jesus.

Dan 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
Dan 7:14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

So the Luciferian space aliens seem to have a feast on the human DNA right before they are locked up again:

-Rev 19:21 And the remnant ((remaining humans)) were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

I believe these remaining (who were once under consideration to become Next Level students), after the BEAST and False Prophet are dissolved in the Lake of Fire could become physical “food” for the Luciferian Space Aliens though I don’t know exactly to what degree. It may be as it has been, picking them up for their DNA and to become egg and sperm suppliers, among other usages as introduced in Rev 19:17-18 where the Space Aliens, depicted as “fowls” who “eat the flesh of kings and captains, mighty men, horses (humans prepped to serve as state leaders), flesh of all, free and bond, small and great.”

Given that prophecy has it’s literal and figurative interpretations, it would be that humans literally become suppliers of biological agents these space aliens and their human counterparts know they will need to survive underground again. Considering how organ donation and blood donation and sperm and eggs and T- cells and hormones and such are already encouraged among humans to foster longevity for the living for their families or for the survival of mankind, this is all together possible that the Next Level is allowing this to happen so they can survive to be used again by the Next Level. The Next Level would not need them to do this. They just know they can make a positive out of their choices.

By this time, it  might be that these space aliens will know they have no other choice but to flee underground. Up until this point they were trying to get humans to build their technology enough to where they could escape the planet as there are plans to put a colony on the Moon and/or on Mars. Although G.W. Bush first announced that project around 2008 yet I’ve not heard of any effort to go to the Moon, but Mars has been talked about. Such a project was privatized through several companies. One is called “Space X” and they put the word out that they were looking for some to go to Mars which they set up a training programs for – to live together under close quarters for their stay there. It seems like a typical way the Luciferians foster a facsimili of the Next Level’s “God Astronaut Training Program.”

Note the Next Level is slaying the remaining, but the remaining don’t seem to be those who have been showing their allegiance to Them as these wouldn’t become flesh for the Space Alien (fowls) to fill themselves with. I suspect the slaying of these pertains to their physical vehicles and that Rev 16:17-21 describes the events of the 7th and last pouring out of vials that includes earthquake(s) that divide the U.S. into three parts falling all cities of nations and what the U.S. had become will be no more. This includes islands vanishing and mountains no longer found and great hail with hale stones that weigh about 90 pounds each – I guess like a meteor barrage.

By this time according to these prophecies it’s not clear whether the Next Level will use Earth for another “Garden” (as now, though is nearly done) or, if they do, when it would become that new Garden or whether it would be used in a different way. Do discussed two options in Session 4 of the Beyond Human tapes talking about the Ages on Earth. He thought there was a “strong possibility” the earth, at the final end of this current age (that’s ending as we speak) may be used as a Next Level Base for a period of time. It seemed to him a healing period would take place first regardless of whether it’s used for a Base or as a new Garden again. If it was used for a Garden then there would be a “new Adam” (He said meant, ‘beginning man, the first “plant”‘) and a “new Eve” with a “new Satan, of all things, someone to represent that same negative, to pull your eyes away from our Father’s Kingdom,” that is if our Father chooses to use the earth Garden in a planting that is like the one that is ending during the remaining years of this current age.

I recall it was 1975 when I heard TI and DO first speak briefly about the earth possibly being used by the Next Level as a Base I didn’t know how to think about it. They spoke a little about how the Next Level has all sorts of projects and that there were planets where human equivalent creatures were growing who were not like earth humans as they didn’t have the negative Luciferian presence. They said that on those places the Next Level could come and go and allow themselves to be seen by the earth’s inhabitants because they wouldn’t try to shoot them down or mistreat them. The Next Level  vehicles can be harmed, although they don’t die if a vehicle is harmed because they have become a graduate Soul, a soul being a container for Mind/Spirit – programming for certain functions, memories, etc.


-Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
-Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
-Rev 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season ((5550 chronos= time either long or short – from Greek mythological God of Time related to the planet Saturn)).

This “little season” could be described as a “little Saturn” period of time, since “chronos” is the Greek word for Saturn and Saturn is considered “Father time” and TI and DO included Saturn in their first movie script they wrote in 1983-5, so  it seems possible it could be about the length of the orbital period of Saturn around the sun, which is 29.5 years and would be a “little” time by Next Level standards while in relationship to the earth’s measure.

Note that use of these mythological names isn’t buying into all the mythologies as accurate depictions of reality in times past, but the part that could be relative might be in the primary meanings to the names of the “gods and goddesses” to provide us with clues for interpretation. One might think we don’t need such interpretation, but for me that’s not the point of doing it and considering it. All these prophecies have been provided by the Next Level for a reason and it appears that reason is for now, that time after the first fruit and Older Members have exited their incarnations. Showing more accuracy to these interpretations that I know I have not accomplished in many cases 100% as what they could be, still becomes something to consider closer to the truth than anything else so becomes a pivot point of our judgment that the Next Level can use to separate each of us to our appropriate “box” for potential salvaging of our Soul for a future classroom after the recycling.

This “little season” is also referred to in Rev 6:11 as the time those who lost their lives in service to the Next Level were to “rest” while their fellow-servants and brethren are killed as was to be fulfilled. This was during the 5th Seal time. That would appear to all be happening in a 40 year period starting from the turn of the millennium, seemingly at the latest point being 2013 when the Next Level started giving a pattern of signs starting from about January to April with a big sign in August and September. These signs seemed to repeat every year thereafter. It would appear the 4th seal may be about 3 1/2 years long, said in Rev 13:5 as “forty two months,” where I have shown before how months from the Greek “men” also can refer to an affirmation period. Therefore that could be saying the 4th seal lasts throughout the 4th and the 5th seal affirmation periods witch is also in total about 40 years time, the time of the “judgment hour.” TI and DO did place significance to the way an “hour” in the Next Levels time frame would be about 40 years on earth, which was described in Peters letter as .”..a day to the Lord is like 1000 years on earth.” Therefore the “little chronous (Saturn) noted during the 5th seal, if it was 29.5 years could be counting to the end of the 6th seal and end of the 40 years as each seal is an opportunity for the Next Level to choose to “save” more souls who have met their criteria for salvage from the recycling. Thus if this “little season” here is about 29.5 years. Along side this timing, one might consider the time of the 7th seal stated as “silence in heaven about the space of half an hour,” which in the time conversion format would be about 20 years.

-Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones ((to sit, a stately seat, power or a potentate – king)), and they sat ((are appointed)) upon them, and judgment ((decision making)) was given ((adventured (tasked with), bestowed)) unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded ((3990 pelekizo from plesso 4141 and plasso 4111= flatten out, pound (winepress?), fig. inflict with calamity, smite)) for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived ((2198 zao= to live, life(-time), (a-)live(-ly), quick)) and reigned ((king, to rule)) with Christ a thousand years.

At this juncture, showing those who give their lives by Standing for TI and DO and/or because of rejecting giving their allegiance to the BEAST, I’m going to post a document I believe Do wrote, but didn’t sign off on or include in Their “Purple Book” or on the Web Site. I got it from Rkkody’s web site he had for a few years before he voluntarily left his vehicle. So it’s not copyrighted nor published anywhere I’m aware of, but really shows the bottom lines to include Do’s statements about there being Three Groups or Types or categories of people that the Next Level will advance to their next station rather than recycling their Souls or Spirits.

We are at the end of an Age, or the end of another civilization. As was prophesied, this is the “judgment time” for all living creatures on or related to this planet – in other words, the time when “where we find ourselves,” as result of our accumulated choices during our time here, determines our Judgment.

The choices of many will find them in a “mind set” that would see the above statements as “cultish,” radical, and doomsdayish, to say the least, while others have chosen to seek mental nourishment that would have them suspect “Truth” in these statements. With little awareness of it, all of us at this time are finding ourselves aligning with others of common mind. This commonness becomes our mental preoccupation. Though subconscious, it takes the form of our determination or judgment of what is RIGHT or GOOD, or who is superior, or has been suppressed or wronged. Some are also preoccupied with racial supremacy, which religious concept is truly God’s, and who presently represents the real ‘Satan’.”

There is a simple evolutionary procedure which applies to those who might leave or graduate from the human kingdom and enter the Evolutionary Kingdom Level Above Human (the Kingdom of Heaven Kingdom of God.) Periodically, The Kingdom Level Above Human sends one of its members “down” into the human kingdom (to incarnate into a human body) – one who has previously been taken through that evolutionary transition – to offer the knowledge to those who have been “picked” as possible recipients of that graduation information. This Representative of that Next Kingdom literally takes those candidates through their weaning from the human world – assisting them in their actual separation or breaking of ties to their humanness, and helping them “graft” to Him as the Representative of the Next Level. Their final separation is the willful separation from their human body, when they have changed enough to identify as the spirit/mind/soul, ready to put on a biological body belonging to the Kingdom of Heaven. (This entering into their “glorified” or heavenly body takes place aboard a Next Level spacecraft, above the Earth’s surface.)

At the close of an Age there are:

1. Some individuals who have connected with that Representative and separated from humanness enough to move into MEMBERSHIP in that Next Kingdom, and into a physical body belonging to that Kingdom Level Above Human;

2. Those who have not reached that degree of separation, but are aware of and believe the information that the Next Level Representative brought, and are separating to the degree of their capability.

3. Those who are compelled to separate, but who have not seen or consciously known of that Representative – His information or his presence.

These two latter groups will be taken into the keeping of the Next Level until they have a later chance at further separation and overcoming, and they are examples of the meaning of – “If you believe you will be saved.”


These who have CONNECTED MENTALLY are driven, during this period, to go against the world – the systems, the socially and politically accepted “norms” – and are determined (as if they can’t help themselves) to go to “God” or Allah, by any name, and to die in opposition to this world, or to simply leave it, even by their own hand if necessary – to “go to God” or His Son, according to whatever their religious backgrounds may have been. (For this “End of the Age” task, this Representative and His Father have been closely relating to this civilization since the early 1970’s – their thoughts have been in this atmosphere and “tappable” during this time.)

Some examples of those whose ideologies suggest that they have CONNECTED MENTALLY, cover a broad spectrum – from the Weavers at Ruby Ridge, the Branch Davidians at Waco, the Unabomber, the Order of the Solar Temple, Aum Shinri Kyo of Japan, the Freemen of Montana, to UFO believers, and others. Many like these are still in hiding, while others take the form of the patriot/militia movements, and countless groups that are simply rebelling from the system, the “norm,” and WANT TO GO TO GOD, OR LEAVE THIS CORRUPT WORLD, at any price.

To the groups and individuals mentioned above, and to this Representative who is writing this statement, the representatives of “this world” (the “socially acceptable” – faithful servants of the dominant religions and governments who seek for a future in this world) represent the OPPOSITION, the ” Lower Forces,” or “Satan.” To the mainstream ” acceptable” world, it seems that the religious zealots are “self-righteous,” imbalanced, and dangerous to society’s “norm,” when in reality, those of the mainstream or accepted “norm” are the very ones who have no hesitation to judge or condemn those who are not like them – especially those who are preoccupied with God. They also have no hesitation to impose their ungodly ways and laws “of man” upon those of the rest of the world who are not like them – actively engaging in, or attempting to engage in the punishment or containment of those they would consider religious “radicals’. Examples of how this misplaced judgment is forced upon religious zealots as seen in how the authorities treated the Weavers at Ruby Ridge, David Koresh and the Branch Davidians at Waco, and the actions presently being taken against Saddam Hussein and Iraq.

The leadership of the world, in imposing man’s laws, deceives and lies about the reasons for their actions, making it appear that they are humanitarian. They seldom expose their real motivations of greed and covetousness of what others have, that they feel they must have or remain in control of, in order to continue “saving the world” from what they would consider the “barbaric” or “radical” elements of humanity. These dominant forces are motivated by their own COUNTERFEIT “truth” supported by their COUNTERFEIT religions. Some examples are: how the True God of the Jews has been replaced by a COUNTERFEIT “palatable” God who encourages “go and multiply” (family values) , “peace on Earth,” and seek a global unity toward a Heaven on Earth; and how the True Christ or Jesus has been replaced by a COUNTERFEIT Jesus who lives “within your heart” and preaches the same, i.e., multiply, seek peace on Earth and unity toward the future of mankind.

To state it simply, in this “battle,” the servants of the ungodly side LIKE THIS WORLD and want to EXTEND THEIR LIFE IN IT at any cost – while the servants of the Godly side HAVE GROWN TO DESPISE THIS WORLD AND WANT TO LEAVE IT, looking for someone or something to offer them a way out – though some may be fearful of the unknown – still trusting that whatever is BEYOND must be better than what they have found here.

What mainstream society doesn’t know is that, in fact, THERE IS A REAL PHYSICAL KINGDOM OF GOD from which everything of this world came. THAT KINGDOM STILL HAS COMPLETE POWER OVER THIS WORLD, though it has infrequently exercised it in the latter part of this civilization. However, WE ARE ABOUT TO SEE THAT POWER DRAMATICALLY EXERCISED – PHYSICALLY – NOW, AT THE CLOSE OF THIS AGE. The civilization doesn’t seem to learn that man’s laws and God’s laws do not mix. Man’s laws are structured to protect money, property ownership, and national and family interests, and religions have deteriorated to support these concepts/laws. God’s laws have been reduced to being adhered to by only a few during the time one of His Representatives is present, though because we’re at the End of the Age, the groups and individuals seen as religious radicals are also attempting to move closer to abiding by God’s laws, and find themselves in irrevocable conflict with those who simply abide by man’s laws.


It seems that those of the socially acceptable mainstream unwittingly at times assist those they see as “radicals” in their goal of wanting to leave the human kingdom, by being instruments of their demise. Also, the feuds between today’s rival ethnic groups are accelerating the judgment of their desires, and the expediting of their end. When we judge others negatively, we are judged negatively, whether the rules of those we judge agree with ours or not. For a nation to condemn another nation or head of a nation because they believe they have a special connection with God, is out of their realm of judgment and is condemnable by the Next Level. The mainstream condemns as if they were sure that their God is the God of Heaven, for they openly mandate what is “right,” “wrong,” or proper concerning the conduct of individuals, groups, other nations, and their leaders.

Whether we like it or not, the Armageddon – The Mother of Holy Wars—has begun, and it will not cease until the plowing under is completed. It may be that the establishment liberates the “radicals” so that they may go “home,” and that the Angelic Armies of the Kingdom of Heaven will complete the spading under- the end of the Age. On which side are you? Will you go onto the keeping of the Next Level, or to dust return?
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Continuing with the analysis of Rev 20:4…

– It doesn’t seem the word “thrones” is best used here as it relates to the way it’s used before this time as for God and the Lamb (TI and DO), so I would choose “Seat of power.” I say this because at this point it wouldn’t be referring to God and the Lamb, because They already have the authority to judge (make decisions about those they are tasked to minister to by whatever means), so these would be some of the recent graduate “saints,” the twelve in particular Jesus spoke about sitting on thrones to judge the twelve tribes of Israel:

Mat 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

TI and DO taught this is the way the Next Level worked; The Older Members give out tasks to their students so then those students gain more hands on experience that is actually a better interface with those coming up as there is not such a big gap between those who just graduated into Next Level membership.

In the setup for the third trimester task, the returning Saints (those who gave their lives in service to Jesus) finish their overcoming, having advanced it significantly when they separated from their human families and lifestyles, behaviors and ways and gave service to Jesus instructions that brought about their martyrdom for God – (something that people do nowadays for any old reason so is meaningless in general, which because of seems to have been part of the strategy that TI and DO would say theirs “wasn’t a martyr trip” and why TI and DO thought they wouldn’t need to lose their human vehicles to step on board the spacecraft). Rev 4:4 indicates the reward for those efforts was their receipt of “crowns of gold” which they also volunteered to “cast…before the throne” by sacrificing the Next Level physical bodies they would have each been awarded to serve TI and DO on spacecrafts, that in so doing would contribute to their task that would yield them, upon graduation an Adult Membership in the Next Level to include an adult model physical vehicle to “wear” (wrap around their Soul body).

I believe this occurs throughout the “Hour of Judgment,” the approx. 40 year period that I suspect began from about 2003-2013 (40 years after TI and DO started out in 1973) with about 3 1/2 years of start up time to begin in earnest by 2017. Do spoke and wrote about how those humans co-opted by the Luciferian space aliens were compared to what Jesus called the “tares” and were by their own choices assisting the Next Level’s “gathering to be burned” by literally killing one another. Thus these who have graduated hold positions (seats) on/among, in the midst, on behalf of, the Throne as they were made “Kings and Priests” to reign over (Rev 5:10) for the benefit of those humans coming up in service to their Older Members, TI and DO.

These would include all who graduated by being with TI (until her exit of her vehicle in 1985) and Do and/or being with Do to their exit of  their incarnations, giving all their heart, soul, mind and strength to Him (and his Older Member TI whether they had a personal relationship with TI or not, they would know TI through Do). Rev 14 distinguishes between the “144 and a myriad of thousands” (perhaps 144,000 exactly) and those who are within that number but are separate from that group in some ways as they are referred to as the “Four Living Beings (not Beasts) and “Elders,” presumably the Twenty four (but could refer to more since in other instances twenty four is specified):

Rev 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

These Sing TI and DO’s song (recognition of them and their prescription, process to overcome the human condition and graduate into the Next Level) and they are not compromising their love by having another “wife” – a spouse, but “wife” is in the context of how the LAMB is the bride, so all His students are his bride. It has nothing to do with gender as gender doesn’t exist among Next Level members. And they also follow the Lamb  (where, which, in what place (wherever), he goes. This is not possible if He is not incarnate as they won’t know where he is if they are not with which also applies to when he is in his kingdom. So they must exit when he exits as well to qualify for this part of the graduation. Finally these are considered the First Fruits. They were “bought” by the Next Level (redeemed) from the among the human kingdom.

Rev 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

It’s interesting that in the next verse there is further description of them as if the Next Level is separating some from the First Fruit (Do’s Type 1 group) and saying their requirement is that they “find, get, obtain, are found with” no
characteristic of being a “decoy; trickster, someone who baits others or wiles (lure,enticing) them or employs craft, deceit, guile or subtlety. I can easily see how accepting the Mark of the Beast on one’s hand and/or head and/or number and/or name or how one comes to worship the Image (spirituality and tricks with holograms, etc.) of the BEAST (Secret governments – new world order and appearance it portrays to the people that is totally deceitful and manipulating) would then be participating in their deceit so the Next Level would disqualify from saving that Soul.

In this view these just described would be in the first group that includes the 4 Living Being and the Elders, but there is a strong indication that during the 4th and 5th seal periods there are “fellowservants also and their brethren” (Rev 6:11) and that is clearly after the Two and 42 have exited their incarnations as it’s during the 7th Trumpet sounding that they give their lives and are promised “white robes” for doing so. We know that Do said that some of those among the 38 with him when they all exited would have to return to further overcome to receive an Adult Membership in the Next Level. Thus it may be that there are a number who could also qualify to receive a Next Level Student Level body and some elementary service on a spacecraft as well. It doesn’t make sense to me that the Next Level would award some with a “white robe” and then put their soul into a “box” or “on ice” (not literally), the two ways TI and DO spoke about the way the Next Level saves Souls. I would guess that a “white robe” may be of some equivalence to whatever physical vehicles Jesus disciples who gave their lives in service to Jesus got to wear. Plus this wouldn’t seem to be applicable to only those who also had a personal relationship with Do, that is, the dropouts from 1977 or so on, which is when TI and DO said those with them   were “adopted” and given “ody” names and amounted to less than 70 students if I recall correctly. I’m saying that because in that same verse:

Rev 6:11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

it’s stating “fellowservants (literally someone else who is performing service for TI and DO) and their brethren – (a fellow human, which could mean fellow believer to some degree, perhaps in either of the two remaining “types” of humans who Do said could be “saved.”

Back to the last half of Rev 20:4 that is describing these “3 Types Do outlined”:

-Next it speaks of Souls who were “flattened out, pounded (winepress?), fig. inflict with calamity, smitten,” less accurately translated to “beheaded” which is only used in this one verse and in four other verses translated as beheaded from 607 apokephalizo used to describe what happened to John the Baptist while it’s root is not at all limited to beheading as the form of death for these.

-“they lived (are quickened) and reigned with Christ a thousand years” – Since we have no indications those of Do’s type 3 who never heard of TI and DO but who didn’t accept allegiance to the BEAST will be given Next Level vehicles, this must mean that these are given the opportunity to incarnate into a physical human bodies prepared for them again to “stand up again in” (live) to gain further lessons from trying to take over by abiding by all the rules (reign) according to the last one who performed the Christing task (Do), but also may be geared to Jesus Christ’s second trimester classroom behavior and way standards, (though not prohibiting those that seek to adopt TI and DO’s third trimester standards). The same Type 3 group would also not “reign with Christ” as in “rule or judge over others alongside Christ or one who has Overcome the human condition because they haven’t yet earned that seat/position. By indicating the Ones sitting on the seat/throne are given that Judgment, I would think These who Do referred to as Older Members, pertaining to his graduate students would be the ones to administer the lesson plan to this overall group. I would say it could be like the Moses encampment in some ways but with greater interface between Next Level members in their Next Level vehicles in and out of the encampment in some  limited way. Do indicated this was possible and even was a “strong possibility” and I would think it fit what Do called a “Next Level Base” more than a “garden” though it could be a predecessor to a new Garden experiment.

The “living” again towards LIFE and abiding by the Christ’s rules (reign) seems to take place during the time of the thousand years time when the Luciferian Space Aliens are once again locked up in their underground and/or undersea prison. This would afford Souls to build strength in a less pressured environment. TI and DO always said their coming and the fact that the Luciferians were assigned to be our Adversary (which they choose to be anyway) was to help us experience an “accelerated growth” “classroom.” They also said that there are other types of classrooms.

-Rev 20:5 But ((1161 de= also, moreover, now)) the rest ((remaining ones, other, which remain, remnant, residue)) of the dead ((nekros from nekus (a corpse))) lived ((anazao= to recover life, (be a-)live again, revive)) not again ((anazao= to recover life, (be a-)live again, revive)) until ((even (until, unto), (as) far (as), how long, (un-)til(-l), (hither-, un-, up) to, while(-s).)) the thousand years (were) finished ((teleo= to end, complete, fill up, perform)). This ((3778 houtos= such as, hearof, the same, (it was that), which, who)) (is the) first ((4413 protos contracted superlative of pro 4253= foremost (in time, place, order or importance), before, beginning, best, chief(-est), first (of all), former)) resurrection ((anastasis= a standing up again)).

So the way I would word this would not break it up into two sentences since there was no such punctuation in the Greek manuscripts and would not ignore how “life” was used twice so I’d rewrite it to:

“Also the remaining dead (humans) do not Revive Life to (Next Level) LIFE until the thousand years completes the same who FIRST “stood up again” (resurrection).

To Do, Resurrection meant – a Soul (the body that grows by receiving Holy Mind/Spirit by abiding by the lesson plan from their incarnate Older Member) who thus had life, having been at the least “saved on ice (so to speak)” after having lessons in a human vehicle awakening to get their Mind into a new human vehicle provided to them during the time of an Older Members incarnate presence. In Do and Crew’s video tape series, Beyond Human – The Last Call, in Session 3 of 12 he talks about the First Resurrection as taking a “dead worthless plant” into LIFE by getting their Next Level Mind, true information, behavior and ways, contained in their Soul container into that otherwise dead plant. (The plant is dead because without Next Level mind in it, it is destined to function off it’s genes and lower force influences and then die with no future.) When Do began to talk about this his student body was mostly secure in their commitment to He and TI so They were the First to Resurrect – bring a dead human body into Life, finally by adhering to their instructions to leave their human bodies behind, trusting their Soul body would rise up into a Next Level spacecraft where it would be  moved into a Next Level MADE body appropriate to each students capacity.

Do then expressed that those watching the Beyond Human tapes who believed Do was their Older Member and sought to engage their overcoming process would be in their Second Resurrection, that is second in two ways – because they were also returning Souls who had their start in a human vehicle before, which was the reason what Do was saying made sense to them and because they were the recipients of the Second Offering of the truth, starting in the early 1990’s as “Jesus” return (in quotes because it’s not the same vehicle named Jesus that returns- it’s the Older Member who was incarnate in that vehicle named Jesus who returns) which even continues to this time.

Some Christian speaker/writers say the second resurrection is the raising to physical life of those who rejected Jesus being raised to their damnation because of their choices, but they fail to actually examine the meaning of the term as “to stand up again” which refers to coming into a new leaf on the human genetic tree, like Do said and bringing it to either life by connecting with TI and DO’s information that yields life when applied or bringing it to death by not connecting with the truth so being recycled in the lake of fire.

So the first group were “souls,” which is rooted in their last vehicle having received “breath” – as in the “breath of life,” a “Soul deposit” shown in Genesis as given to the Next Level MADE, (perhaps a student model), physical vehicle, named Adam (for example), that made him a “living Soul,” (because he then had the capacity to LIVE (change that body into an Adult Next Level Member) by overcoming the influence of the Luciferian Space Alien deceiver (hisser/serpent) by abiding by his Older Member’s instructions, behaviors and ways to please the Older Member.

Breath is equal to spirit which is equal to mind and coming from the Next Level Older Members is “holy (pure) Mind/Spirit”) as opposed to human mind which is Luciferian Space Alien driven by the misinformation they feed humans, but which becomes the catalyst to overcome.

Thus those humans who are said to be “dead,” having never received that Soul container or never “sprouted” that  seed, who are therefore according to the Next Level still dead to any future Next Level membership, are given another chance to grow and thus “live,” though it would be after the 1000 years while the Souls (who were not considered dead) were seemingly incarnating into human vehicles to learn lessons by ABIDING BY THE RULES/INSTRUCTIONS (reign) of Christ – (the Older Members who provide the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE as the example to overcome the human mammalian evolutionary kingdom, which is the Christing process). It seems altogether possible that this time period spoken of as the Souls “reigning with Christ” may be a task for the FIRST fruit graduates to monitor and manage on behalf of Their Older Members, probably the new Younger Members of the Next Level who were given that task of certain decision making (judgment) having been in the positions of the Four Living Beings and/or those counted as the Twelve Pillars of the Temple New Jerusalem and their crew of the remaining of the Twenty Four (or more) Elders and any on their crews (that could be the remainder of the difference between 42 and 28).

-Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part ((privilege, course, allotment, delegation)) in the first ((foremost, before, beginning, best, chief, former)) resurrection ((standing up again)): on such the second death hath, no power, but they shall be priests ((2409 hiereus= + (high) priest)) of God (([The Father/Jehovah])) and of Christ (([Lamb/Jesus])), and shall reign ((rule, abide by his instructions)) with ((according to)) him a thousand years.

So the ones who are still in a “dead condition” until they have another chance to “rise to Life” are not assured they won’t be recycled. Plus it’s interesting how those in that FIRST Rising Up to Life –  (awakening in a human vehicle to the Older Members “process” they can choose to embrace to result in gaining Next Level Life) are described as “priests” which may be not unlike the way the Levites in Jehovah/Moses student body served as “priests” – as “helpers” TI and DO probably would have referred to them as – to administer their Older Members instructions on the ground, in the encampment of the saints as it states later.

-Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

According to Rev 20:3 Satan is then loosed out of his prison for a “little (least, small, less, short, brief, little rank of influence) time (season).” Given that “season” here is from the Greek word Chronos (and can be shown to be related to Kronos) as a “child” of Zeus aka Zas and thus Saturn aka “Father Time,” this “little time” could be as little as a Saturn orbit of the sun calculated to be about 29.5 earth years or could be a longer period in which time the Luciferians:

-Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
-Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed ((surrounded)) the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

As described in section IV.F.2. THE GATHERING AT ARMAGEDDON, the Camp of the Saints seems to be a triangular area TI and DO once outlined that I only recall part of that I think included Magdalena, Manzano and Mountainaire areas in New Mexico. Manzano but certainly could include a much broader area.

The “beloved city” would be both an indication of a people and a larger geographical area and by the records in the Old Testament would be the New Jerusalem on the refurbished earth with it’s “heavenly counterpart” being a new spacecraft that is described as 1360 miles square hovering over the area of the earth that the “meek” have inherited (as Jesus said would happen).

Thus this “camp of the saints” and the “beloved city” may become a type of new nation comprised from all the ethnicities that were in the U.S. when the Next Level issued the events that caused the kings, etc. to flee into their mountain hideaways and the destruction of the U.S. as a nation in the 7th Vial’s pouring out and in Rev 18 and 19 when the BEAST and False Prophet are cast into the Lake of Fire, it seems before this 1000 years begins.

I’ve had to wonder when I saw many American Indian tribes descend upon the area where the North Dakota pipeline is being built, trying to stop that pipeline, saying it will threaten to pollute their water when it is planned to go under the Missouri river, whether that too was a Next Level stimulated “gathering.” They have set up camp and are surrounded by militaristic private police forces from all over and there have been many arrests and use of pepper spray and rubber bullets and manhandling tactics and even provocateurs with weapons but the people have maintained their peaceful protective effort they call “Standing Rock.” It reminds me of when Jesus said that the “meek shall inherit the earth.” The Next Level can stimulate the motivation for such movements just by desiring it for those they see as doing the best they can to live by Next Level ways. Considering how water is not the prime way the Next Level will destroy the earth or the areas of the earth they most want to spade under, actually being away from the mountains and forests will be a good thing, which is also the case with Magdelena and Manzano and Mountainaire relatively speaking. It’s the mountains where the kings of the earth are running to hide within. How convenient to then make those mountains fall down and/or fill with lava when it’s time to recycle them.

Though there are “signs” up until this time, through “waves roaring” (Luk 21:25), large tsunami’s and hurricane’s, water is not the primary way the Next Level performs the spading. It’s by fire in all it’s forms – drought and volcanic activity and humans with their war, with fires as the heat of passions – unbridled anger, jealousy, envy and through lusts and a shaking down of the mountains. Where prophecy indicates that “every island fled away” that could mean they were submerged but perhaps not from the sea overtaking them like from a tsunami, but because an island is like a little mountain rise and it will be shook down as it’s indicated that “mountains were not found.”

We certainly have seen how the forests fires have raged in the U.S. western states and as of this fall of 2016 throughout the south east as well as most of the U.S. has been experiencing drought. It’s interesting how humans want to take credit for it and have people believe they can fix it by using less carbon fuels. These are people that apparently have no idea how small they are with their technologies that produce heat compared to the Next Levels systems – Sun, Volcano’s, other internal heat sources. But the times are such that humans often without any recognition of even the existence of the Next Level are also thinking earthquakes are human stimulated, like with HAARP and from fracing and underground drilling and underground city building. No doubt some of that activity can stimulate quaking but most and especially the large ones have nothing to do with human activity.

It could be that the Next Level will preserve certain areas where people more in tune with Them in whatever ways, in whatever terms might gravitate which would be the Next Level way to “gather” people, like I’ve been suggesting about that Magdelena – Manzano – Mountainaire area of New Mexico. Manzano is the closest little town near to where Do and Crew began to build what they called their “Monastery Fortress” (main building being an earthship design) that had in it’s plans a lookout tower and where they slept in bunk houses (barracks as soldiers of the Lord) (designed originally as a boy scout camp used before They bought it) and a “pharmacy” (I would make an educated guess to be a largely naturopathic one).

From the definitions given for “camp” in Rev 20:9 it’s very interesting to look very much like this “camp of the saints” is very NEAR, BESIDE, IN THE VICINITY OF, ABOVE where the Luciferian Space Aliens (dragon and his angels) are once again THROWN and thus CAST INTO for their ETERNAL PUNISHMENT (in the lake of fire) as a result of the final battle:

3925 parembole from a compound of para 3844* and emballo 1685**; a throwing in beside (juxtaposition), i.e. (specially), battle-array, encampment or barracks (tower Antonia)= army, camp, castle.

*3844 para a primary preposition; formally, near; i.e. (with genitive case) from beside (literally or as a figure), (with dative case) at (or in) the vicinity of (objectively or subjectively), (with accusative case) to the proximity with (local (especially beyond or opposed to) or causal (on account of)= above, against, among, at, before, by, contrary to, X friend, from, + give (such things as they), + that (she) had, X his, in, more than, nigh unto, (out) of, past, save, side…by, in the sight of, than, (there-)fore, with. In compounds it retains the same variety of application.

**1685 emballo from en 1722 and ballo 906; to throw on, i.e. (as a figure) subject to (eternal punishment)= cast into.

It’s no secret that among locations where there was said to be interface between humans and these Luciferian space aliens, New Mexico is most noted. President Dwight G. Eisenhower was reported to have met with space aliens on several occasions. Perhaps the first meeting was reported to have occurred in February of 1954 while he was reported to be on vacation in Palm Springs, CA. The aliens were “Nordic” in appearance, tall and grey skinned looking and one report was that they had large noses so were called the “big nose grays.” It was reported that there was an agreement that these aliens would provide the U.S. with their space craft technology if the U.S. would not interfere with their abductions of humans. This or one or more of these meetings were reported to take place at Holloman Air Force base which is six miles southwest of the central business district of Alamogordo, NM.

Then there was an alleged underground base said to be near Dulce, New Mexico – in the northeast corner of the state that was said to be a number of levels beneath the surface and that on the upper levels were controlled by earth humans while the lower levels were under the control of human equivalent space aliens, all of whom are Luciferian because Do said that all were Souls that became renegades against the Next Level and engaged in hybridization of new physical bodies to operate through. It was said that in 1979 there was a type of “altercation” between the humans and the space aliens and a number of mostly humans were killed and that soured their relationship.

There was also reports of a man named Paul Benowitz who was said to be a scientist who got involved in the UFO/Space Alien phenomena starting around 1979-1980 that involved a number of people like Dr. Leo Sprinkle (psychologist/hypnotherapist of alien abduction claimants – one in particular who indicated being taken to the underground Dulce, NM base in which she saw “vats” of human organs and said the aliens were implanting devices into abductees to track them and manipulate them) and Linda Moulten Howe (cattle abduction phenomena), generals, senators and other researchers. He had amassed a great deal of video footage of spacecraft lights around the Manzano mountain range and in relationship to Kirtland AFB south of Albuquerque, NM. He had also allegedly developed technology to intercept radio transmissions between space aliens and their abductees. This is most interesting because of how Do said years later that the aliens could beam down to humans messages, even en masse to keep them asleep and addicted to their human behaviors – sexuality being a big one that reduces one’s common sense to thus see and understand more of what’s real.

Thinking of this indication of the Space Aliens being near to the Camp of the Saints and possibly to the Beloved City brings into focus the way Sante Fe, NM, in it’s outskirts in Los Alamos and the Sandia National Laboratory and Phillips Laboratory, both of which conduct ultra-top-secret government research, together with these other AFB locations make a pretty strong case as being a space alien stronghold that is mostly underground so may very well be where these same Luciferian space aliens are cast into again that puts them “near, beside, in the vicinity of” the “camp of the saints” in Manzano, in between these two areas to the north and south in New Mexico. Wouldn’t that be convenient for the Next Level to have them close by to one another so they could be preserved, with the Luciferian under ground to be used again and the saved humans above the ground. I’ve then imagined if the Next Level wanted to start a new “garden” with a New Adam as Do said would happen if it was to become a new Garden would be equip with the New Satan as well in the same vicinity to set up the testing criteria again.

This flocking together seems to be comprised in part of all those SOULS who once in human vehicles “Stood for TI and DO” during this tribulation period from about 2017 to 2021, especially, and were “subdued/overcome” by the BEAST as described in Rev 13:5-7. The time frame mentioned there was “forty two months” which are the same words used in Rev 11:2 that seemed to depict the the time when those in the FIRST fruit harvest were “tread on foot” through the “temple” area, the location where TI and DO and Crew took human vehicles to “dwell” west of the Mississippi river, primarily in the southwestern states. In that depiction they were not going to focus on the “court” area which I believe is east of the Mississippi river and the northern states and into Canada and potentially other English speaking areas of the world. Yet, during these years would then be the time to stand for TI and DO in these courtyard areas that are actually all more populated with staunch Christians as opposed to the west that is mostly populated by people who have come out of Christianity, though have often entrenched into another religion or spiritual practice, often related to Buddhism. I suspect those in the west are mostly now “overripe” for harvest-ability, but I could be wrong and of course there are always some in every camp that can still come out of that camp to see the ultimate truth in TI and DO’s teachings.

Just like seemed likely in Rev 11:2, largely because of that wording of “forty two months” where the Greek “men” translated in both of these verses to “months” can also be translated to A PERIOD OF AFFIRMATION that I don’t believe is coincidental. If it was meant to be 1260 days in both cases why not say it that way, as that was how the same period was described for the Two Witnesses to prophesy. TI and DO didn’t need to affirm to the Next Level Older Members anything. They already were Older Members in the Next Level.

But since it was said differently, the reason could seem to be that there are 42 students making their affirmation during the 4th seal time period just like there ended up being 42 who laid down their lives with and in service to Do, (and TI) as their affirmation, which is the same thing as upholding their “covenant” (Rev 6:2 “bow,” as in rainbow and actually there having to do with being born).

It’s interesting with this perspective that 42 + 42 = 84, which just so happens is quite close to the number of students Jesus sent out or had in his group, listed as “70” (which goes back to the Moses first trimester classroom when Jehovah gave Moses an instruction to appoint 70 elders of the tribes to perform certain functions). Those 70 Jesus students were it seems in addition to the 12 who were traveling with Jesus, thus equaling 82 plus John the Baptist, who was also part of that overall crew.” I suspect he was the same Soul who had been serving with Moses, appointed by Jehovah in the vehicle named Aaron and the equivalent to Miriam might then be Mary Magdalene which brings the total to 84 that rounds out the entire crew. It would seem this second group of 42 have the potential to make the equivalent grade to some of the first 42, as Do said some in his group he thought would have to return to finish their overcoming as I suspect would this second group of 42 as one can not graduate into adult Next Level Membership without being in the physical presence of our Older Members to lead us through each particular “birth canal.”

Now this is not to say this is the limit of believers/graduates, because during this same 42 month time period of their AFFIRMATION, which also is part of the meaning of each SEAL that includes staged opening of the “book” for different ones, anyone can give it their best shot. The BOOK refers to the combined two parts with the FIRST part written from the INSIDE (by Do and Crew – still available today in August of 2016 as a free download on and the LAST part, said as the BACKSIDE is written AFTER the FIRST Harvest and refers to the historic records – again the time period BEHIND the FIRST FRONTSIDE which seem to be shown in this writing effort. There will be many who awaken more to believing in TI and DO through both sides of the BOOK who when it dawns on them could “hit the deck running to connect with TI and DO and Stand in defense of Them, which will also be standing for the real Jesus teachings and in that process some will lose their human lives to (as shown in the next two SEALS (5 and 6) where they also receive their just reward for their SELF sacrifice, showing the Next Level they are their “sons of God” who will be led to the living fountain that will result in their graduation from the human kingdom to adult membership in the Next Level.

All these who GIVE THEIR LIVES IN THE SERVICE PROVIDED, (not some other idea of what is service) – that of giving witness testimony to what TI and DO taught may receive a Next Level made vehicle at some point and literally dwell with Do (and possibly to some degree, TI) and the FIRST Graduates on board part of the New Jerusalem spacecraft during the time after both the earth and the area called the First “heaven” are renewed.

Another view of this time period seemingly starting before the 1000 years is described in Revelations chapter 7. This is set to the time during the end of the 6th Seal time period, that seems to be before the Angel pours out their 7th Vial (plagues/calamities) in Rev 16:17-21, because it’s that Vial’s pouring out that results in the division of the U.S. into three parts, and causes the “cities of nations” to fall and causes “islands to flee away” and “mountains to no longer be found” because of the greatest earthquakes seen to date and follows that with a great amount and size of “hail stones” (that each weigh about 90 pounds each). Since Rev 7:3 indicates that the sealing of the 144,000 needs to take place BEFORE “hurting… the earth, (and it’s remaining humans), nor the sea nor the trees,” (all indications of their literal interpretation) because and those Vial operations certainly would “hurt” these three parts of the planet, the sealing of the 144,000, as described in Rev 7:4-8, must happen before that “hurting” is accomplished. If this 144,000 number was speaking of Souls alone, then harming the earth would have no affect on them so why put it off. Therefore these seem to be human vehicles who do have “Soul” deposits, which is why they are described as “sealed servants of our God in their foreheads” as even if they never heard of TI and DO, they were in their way abiding by God’s laws, which is a service to God, no matter how they refer to God. For instance perhaps many of the American Indians who speak of the Great Spirit are serving the One True God. The Elders of the Sioux tribe that were met by a reported 2000 U.S. Veterans in their Dakota Access Pipeline fight to save the Missouri river water from spills that are bound to happen, told the veterans not to intimidate or fight against the police and National guard but to just help those who were manning the barricades and being hit with pepper spray and tear gas and water canons in 26 degree Fahrenheit temperatures and rubber bullets and concussion grenades. To me that is Standing for God’s laws to not return violence with violence. And these were fighting against the U.S. BEAST and the tribal leaders were actually offered over a billion dollars for their land, I heard reported, but wouldn’t take it.

Putting a SEAL on these 144,000 saves their Souls from the “second death”, (that is, when they lose their physical vehicles) and seems to depict what Do called the Third Group of those who would be salvaged from the recycling who don’t even know about TI and DO. These I believe would be who Do referred to as being, “put on ice (not literally).” and would have another chance to grow towards Next Level membership after the recycling.

The Second Group are those who did recognize Do as their Older Member and who did begin their separation from humanness and their Overcoming Metamorphosis that included Standing for TI and DO in particular and facing losing their human vehicles life because of. These are described as a multitude who came through the Great Tribulation – time of great trouble and affliction (and of course also didn’t give their allegiance to the BEASTS. These are described as not only being “sealed” but as having “washed their robes” – in other words, cleaned their human vehicles behavior as described in Rev 14:4-5.

-Rev 7:15 Therefore are they before ((in the face or presence or sight of)) the throne ((seat)) of God, and serve ((a hired menial [perhaps what Do called “elementary service” like what the Luciferians had as “watchers” (observers) before they fell and renegaded from the Next Level and that service])) him day and night in his temple ((dwelling)): and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.

Note there is no “temple” in the New Jerusalem spacecraft, (Rev 21:22), therefore this designated “temple” is referring to that multitude as a group and/or in a particular area and I presume having some type of physical vehicle as otherwise, since these have not yet graduated, since I never heard TI and DO talk about service in the Next Level without having a physical vehicle it’s possible they are awarded with what I call a Student Model Next Level vehicle, in a sense replacing those who became the Luciferian fallen angels, which TI and DO did indicate in the Blackhawk tapes some would be rising up to.

In Rev 20:4 during the 1000 years when the Luciferian space aliens are once again locked up in the depths (beneath the earth and/or sea), it speaks of the “souls” (thus those without bodies at that time) who had been “beheaded (cut down, slain, killed, separated from their human vehicles (Greek apokteino), aka harvested) for the witness of Jesus,” which would seem to mean, literally having a human vehicle during the time Jesus was incarnate as one of his disciples who were with him, perhaps as the 70 and/or “Standing in support of Him” after he left and losing their vehicles life at that time because of their taking that Stand. That wouldn’t seem to include the 4 Living Beings or the 24 Elders as they had exited the human vehicles they “borrowed” by dying themselves with TI and DO and were in receipt of new physical vehicles grown for them (“clothed in fine linen, white and clean”) when they returned in spacecrafts (“white horses”), as shown in Rev 19:14, to participate in the deciding (“judgment”) task of sorting – pulling up the tares, etc. which is indicated takes place by the time of the 1000 years that the Luciferians are once again locked up when these “reigned with Christ a thousand years.”

This time describing their being with the most recently “anointed” (Christ) who was last incarnate in the vehicle named “Do,” but who now only has a name his crew-member’s know is also shown in Rev 19:12. It also states in Rev 20:4 that these who were beheaded (killed) for the witness of Jesus were also killed for the Word of God. Since Jesus was described as the “Word of God” – it’s not like the Next Level to repeat that same event depiction in a different way unless it’s meant to be understood in a different way, which I suggest is saying they had “died their vehicles twice,” once while testifying to all Jesus said (His Words) and did and then during the recent time of great tribulation as shown starting with and/or immediately after the 4th Seal opening but certainly by the time of the 5th Seal opening and affirmation period – dying again but this time for the most current manifestation of the “Word of God,” that which TI and DO and Crew said and did.

Giving testimony to what Jesus actually taught was all about recognizing, that to make application to his team, one must separate from their human roots, mostly anyone and everyone who would try to hold you back from giving your all to your Older Member’s service, and from human addictions, the foremost of which is to all forms and degrees of human sexuality, etc. This is because becoming a Member of the Next Level means grafting to a new family tree as Jesus also taught and aborting all sexual thoughts and behaviors is needed because there is no sexuality among Next Level members so one must cease keeping that programming alive in our heads because the content of our Mind must become compatible with the new Next Level vehicle each graduate receives.

This is what is meant by one needing to give all their love, (heart, mind, Soul and strength) to the Lord, to include one’s human life (in all ways it entails) which directly would mean the same kinds of things Jesus taught and demonstrated but would extend to testifying, referred to by Do and Crew as STANDING FOR TI and DO and defending everything about them and how they were the current representatives from the Kingdom who created all the life forms and how Do evidenced being the incarnate return of the same Soul who was in the vehicle named Jesus.

However like we just described from Rev 7, this Rev 20:4 verse also included those who had perhaps never heard of TI and DO but who and/or those who may not have been a disciple of Jesus who gave their lives for him then, but who had still separated from their humanness in their own ways by not worshiping (serving, working for) the BEAST equivalent in their day The Roman govt and it’s false idol IMAGES (what TI called “copies” of what the Kingdom of God taught and did, as seen in their various religions.

Thus all these Souls then “lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years” where “live” is the animating force, having the provision of a physical biological vehicle of some kind in which to function in the dense physical world. I don’t think “Reigning with Christ” means “Ruling alongside Jesus” as that translation could imply because it’s the vehicles they are going to “live through” – use to further their overcoming that is what will be the “foundation of power of Christing (overcoming the human kingdom)” that is “with” (accompanied by some who had become Christs – had overcome the human kingdom, which may be a circumstance similar to the Moses encampment. It seems the Member of the Next Level who served in the vehicle named Moses was a Christ, having according to TI been incarnate before then in the vehicle named Enoch who “walked with God” and was “taken,” thus did not die to go to Heaven. Remember how Jesus said only those who came from the Next Level could ascend into the Next Level.

John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in ((with)) heaven.

Aaron was likely a Student Soul who had come a long way in his “Christing” process. I only say that as a comparison that they may be living outdoors in temporary shelters with no infrastructure or government, and may have regular interface with any number of those who had “overcome” which would be any of the 4 Living Beings and/or 24 Elders, possibly visible to and/or walking among them at times with these Souls who would be in Next Level grown vehicles.

I say this because of:

Rev 19:4 And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down ((falling, alighted, flying)) and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia.

Here they “fell down” or said as alighted or fly down and serve. This is said after the “great whore” (America – all those who constitute the BEAST) is said to have been judged in verses Rev 19:1-3.

This next verse implies the 4 Living Beings and the 24 Elders are part of the throne. We know they work for the throne and are considered kings having overcome and graduated in 1997 but the throne was always spoken of as God or that Lamb sitting on it, which this doesn’t change but shows these are acting as one Mind in the tasks on the throne:

Rev 19:5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great.

Rev 19:6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.

So here is yet another show of a “great multitude” “small and great” serving. Again this is very akin to the Three Groups of Individuals Do said would be “saved from the recycling.” First, those who had given their all to the incarnate REP – Do (whether they completed their metamorphosis, overcoming, Christing or not) as “great,” Second, those who recognized the REP and began their separation from the human kingdom and began their metamorphosis but had weaknesses so needed more work, and Third those who never knew of the REP but had separated from their humanness in their own way – seemingly by not aligning with the BEAST to receive it’s mark or work for it’s Image (Spirituality and/or even a Luciferian stimulated Hologram like Fatima), etc, those that might be under the general type called “small.”

Thus these seem to represent a community – a tribe of vehicles in different grades in the Next Level’s school able to interface with the Souls who were a match for those vehicles in their schooling. It could even be describing a new classroom where they could learn to form a stronger bond with their Older Member.

This next verses indicate this group will, in their future, have no hunger or thirst nor sun light nor heat so they must be in the presence of, the Holy City New Jerusalem that is the only indication of a Next Level craft “dwelling with men” which is confirmed as taking place after the seven plagues (vials) are poured out completely (fulfilled) on earth in Rev 15:8.

Rev 15:8 And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled.

That completion of these seven Vials (plagues) is shown here, saying “it is done”:

Rev 16:17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice ((through the idea of disclosure, sound, tone, sound of uttered words, speech, language, tongue)) out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

These next depictions of “voices, etc.” don’t indicate they are coming from the Next Level as communication but do seem to match the next prophecy that would seem to be the start of a repeated cycle with the trumpets sounding again, which could very well mean the start of the next classroom will occur after/during that 1000 years. In this case the “half hour” may be reflective of about 20 years time without any disclosures, while also resembling the start of a “little season” when Lucifer is locked up followed by a little season when Luciferian space aliens are allowed to once again gather humans for their last battle as shown in the Magdalena, NM vicinity. Note in Rev 8:5 the same order of statements re: voices, thunderings and lightnings and an earthquake. As I interpreted in the first attempt to understand this same verse this could be an earthquake in the same area that was called the New Madrid fault line.

Rev 16:18 And there were voices ((disclosure, noise, sound, voice)) and thunders ((roar)), and lightnings ((bright shining)); and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.

The Great City is the USA, referred to as the “woman,” America, the Mystery Babylon and the Secret U.S. New World Order government aka the BEAST whose territory in the continental U.S. is divided into three parts:

Rev 16:19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations ((ethnicities, gentiles – [European cities and/or cities all over the planet])) fell: and great Babylon (([the Secret (mystery) Govt of the BEAST])) came in remembrance ((to stay, to handle or squeeze, to chew, gnaw as a fixture in mind, a recollection, punishment)) before God, to give unto her the cup ((lot, or fate)) of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

Rev 16:20 And every island fled away ((ran away, shunned, vanished, escaped)), and the mountains were ((find, get, obtain, perceive, see)) not ((negative, unworthy, without)) found ((find, get, obtain, perceive, see)).

This appears similar, to Rev 6:14:”..and every mountain and island were moved out of their places,”, which at that time during the start of the Sixth Seal would seem to be a stage of proving humans with more evidence of the Next Level so they might still change their mind from who they give their allegiance to whereas in this Rev 16 time it’s at the very end of the period decribed as the last vial being poured out that then includes:

Rev 16:21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

And the same sequence of events is shown:

Rev 11:19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.

These events usher in the bringing about of the new earth that includes the new 144,000 “tribe of overcomers” who were sealed during this sixth seal time – Souls who would be given their next step towards graduation, it seems, after the Luciferian space aliens are let out again because that’s when the testing for the new civilization seems to start again.

-Rev 7:16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.

Again this is projecting the future for these that seems to be shown in more detail by:

Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no ((3756 ou= no negative, unworthy man)) more ((2089 eti= further, hereafter, “yet,” still (of time or degree), after that)) sea ((2281 thalassa= probably prolonged from hals 251= salt; the sea.

There are no clear indications that all the literal seas (oceans, seas (Galilee, Mediterranean, black/dead, Caspian)) are vanished. There are indications all living creatures in the sea die – being turned to blood and I imagine that can include certain of the Luciferian Space Aliens who may have their spacecrafts and/or bases under the sea as indicated:

Isa 27:1 In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.

Plus the wicked are compared to a troubled sea:

Isa 57:20 But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest, whose waters cast up mire and dirt.

In Rev 20:13 during the judgment of the dead it was recorded that the “sea gave up the dead which were in it.”

Plus we know that the BEAST rose up from out of the sea in rev 13:1 which was powered by the Luciferian Space Aliens in rev 13:4, confirmed by:

Dan 7:2 Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea.
Dan 7:3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.

The Great Sea could be generally referring to the human kingdom with great also being translated to “big” and/or it can refer to certain bodies of literal water. In Daniels time the Mediterranean Sea was considered to be a “Great Sea” but I can’t imagine all the bodies of water being in that category yet as with most all prophecy there could be a specific meaning intended for the fulfillment of prophecy. In that case I would suggest the Mediterranean is a “great sea” given it’s the most immediately accessible and largest body of water in the vicinity where the Next Level started the current civilizational experiment and sent Their incarnate Representative to who was incarnate in the name Jesus. And following that thinking to where the U.S. mainland became the next location for the Next Level’s staging of the Third Trimester and subsequent lesson plans, there is the “Great Salt Lake” and the “Great Lakes” in between Canada and the U.S. that may be the “sea” or “seas” referenced in prophecy.

In Rev 16:3 when the second angel pours out their vial on the sea it becomes the blood of the dead and “every living (breathing) creature in the sea dies.

Thus this verse’s use of sea may be specific to the Mediterranean sea’s drying up or being turned to blood by volcanic activity that makes it a sea of glass – molten glass as in other verses the Members of the Next Level are shown as standing on a sea of glass which can be showing how they conquered “hell” that encapsulates the presence of the lower forces that previously, and still could be finding their safe harbor in or under the sea and/or under the earth under the sea – in other words having a sea entrance perhaps, as Isaiah’s prophecy can indicate.

Since prophecy indicated those who are responsible for killing the prophets and persecuting the Next Level’s chosen vehicles that provided the lesson ground for returning Souls in their various “trimesters” toward their “spirit birth” – even grades in school as TI and DO first compared the Next Level “process” to, the sea that is said to be no more could be literal or speaking of certain seas and/or parts of what we currently call seas – even entire oceans. For instance, today’s science community seems to agree that the western U.S. shows a great deal of evidence of once being under water. It would not be far fetched to consider that the Next Level terraform the planets they make into “gardens.” For instance if they stimulate enough volcanic activity in the middle of a great lake or to where the lava from erupting volcano’s flows into any water body no matter how big or small and this is accomplished repeatedly and/or constantly over many years, I suppose all the waters could be dried up – converted to steam as is happening right now in August of 2016 and/or new islands would form and/or extensions of the current islands and even forcing waters into other areas as a result, even reshaping continents, submerging some places and elevating others with all the related earthquakes, etc.

From the satellite mapping data it’s apparent to see layers and layers of magma that flowed over large swatches of the western U.S. mountains that grew land masses from many of the once volcanically active mountains. I just watched a report from yesterday the 27th of August from an individual who has been using 3D software where he plots earthquake activity and relates to where there is evidence of volcanic activity, like for instance Mt. St. Helens in the U.S. state of Washington. This person has been tracking earthquakes for over a decade now and that activity has significantly increased many fold since the mid 1990’s when Do and crew came public as the “resurfacing” of the one who was incarnate in the prepared human vehicle named, “Jesus” and the same souls referred to as His “saints.” Just today on 12/06/2016 I saw a science report that suggested the entire center of the Earth is magma. I can imagine the Next Level knows how to start the pumps to bring it up in many areas at the same time.

The possibilities are many, but I can imagine the Next Level could take a sea and use lava to heat it up like a caldron, in such a way to boil whatever elemental soup that could be left to cool and result in a “transparent sea” or even hardened sea of glass which is what sand can be melted and made into by such a process. Thus a sea is turned into a desert. Apparently the New Jerusalem spacecraft is made of clear crystal (Rev 21:11,22).

Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned ((to snuff (a wick) and/or trim it, [kin to putting out one’s fire/flame passion, sexuality, sensuality, relationships to the human family, just like in the parable of the ten virgins])) for her husband.

Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle ((habitation, vessel)) of God ((deity [reference to TI – the “chief administrator” (as Do said) of this garden])) is with ((amid, in the midst, accompanying)) men, and (he will) dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

This dwelling may be referring to the way the Souls in Rev 20:4 are said to “live” accompanied by Christ which could mean anyone who has graduated into the Next Level via the Christing process, since in most all cases if it’s referring to TI or Do it would be “God” for TI and the Lamb or Jesus (in a vehicle LIKE the Son of Man, and “baptized by blood”). Do is also “God” but in this context it may very well be what John is being shown as the Jerusalem may be TI’s spacecraft and crew given it’s described as related to the “Twelve” which is part of the description of TI in Rev 12:1 as having “twelve crowns on her head.”

It was in 1976 in Laramie, Wyoming that TI and DO held a meeting with their students who numbered about 100, where they suggested it was possible that the Next Level could choose to make the earth into what they termed, if I recall correctly, a “celestial body” where members of the Next Level in their Next Level vehicles would be able to be among humans to some degree in some capacity, (I believe TI and DO did indicate that They wouldn’t live side by side among humans as that would be like humans choosing to live with a pack of dogs – no matter how well behaved those dogs, they would still be animals with their animal ways that the Next Level members would not need to subject themselves to). They said this would be possible if the humans had lifted their vibrations way above the way they were at that time (and to date I’m sure). For instance the context was in regards to the reports of humans firing guns at a spacecraft or punching a Next Level Member when they hadn’t done anything to them, but just because they were different or any number of other crude behaviors. I think that example was from a report of a human who had a close encounter whose name was Moody (though not saying it was a Next Level members he punched – it was just an example of how humans might react to Next Level members in their Next Level bodies and further shows the need for them to come incarnate to be able to have any significant teaching role. At that point of that Moody account TI and DO were not fully aware of which reports might have been Next Level Members and which ones were not. In fact TI once said, if some of these reports are referring to Next Level Members, when she got back there were going to be some major changes implemented.

While TI was incarnate we hadn’t had access to nearly the amount of data reported by abductees and contactees that showed, because of their behavior that most of these reports were not Next Level members. TI and DO always said they were only fed information to stay one step ahead of their student body. They said they knew there were Next Level tasks that went on, around the earth, that they knew nothing about. They would only suspect some of the other tasks from reports provided by humans. They were not given complete pictures very often and even when they did receive what they called a sizable “chunk of information” they said it took them time to understand it all and that that knew they probably didn’t understand it completely, though also knew and trusted they had what they needed for the sake of the student body.

They would compare with one another what ideas they were getting. That would be part of what they called a “check and balance” system they could then depend on to stay on track. They were “undercover agents behind enemy lines,” they said, with only a very limited type of radio contact with their base, so had to receive encrypted messages so not to alert the enemy – the Luciferian Space Aliens on what their next move might be. It was that real. So they had to be very focused and determined to enact every step with an expectation that it could shift at any moment if that is what the Next Level wanted from them. Often such shifts, they later learned, were to put some students to the test of how they would respond. When they knew they were receiving an instruction to move somewhere or do something they put it into motion right away and few knew of the new location. If they then got instruction to stop, they would stop. One example of several was while living outdoors in the wilderness in Wyoming or perhaps it was northern Colorado at that point, we had instructions to move the camp. So we took down all our tents that included a type of mess hall tent and a meeting tent and set up camp a few hundred yards away and then when we were done we got instructions to move it again. It was very hot and I can recall being very tired and hearing my vehicle complaining a bit. I would bet for some it was more than a little complaint from their vehicle. It could have even been the straw that broke the camel’s back, as the saying goes, that became a reason for a student to leave the classroom.

-Rev 7:17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.

Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Rev 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
Rev 21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

Thus the sixth seal time period also seems to outline the setup for the “new heaven and the new earth” as first described in Rev 21:1. By New Heaven it seems to be linked to when the “heaven departed as a scroll” in Rev 6:14 which appears to be before the 1000 years but perhaps is at the start of that period when the Luciferians are for the last time locked up underground. Regarding the “new earth,” Do said he felt the earth wasn’t going to be scrapped or replaced, just refurbished, spaded, recycled which included the human kingdom that is part of the Greek word, “ge”= “country, earth(-ly), ground, land, world [civilization]).

Since the Seals are both opening up of the content of the BOOK in Rev 5:1 and how that becomes an “affirmation period of time” for students, it’s apparent with the advent of the seventh and last seal opening there is still one last affirmation period, which is confirmed by the next verses in Rev chapter 21:

Rev 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Thus this “lake which burneth with fire and brimstone” could very well be from huge volcanic eruptions that I can imagine could be made to flood many of the underground bases and/or under the sea potential hideouts that are really prison cells.

IV.G. SEVENTH SEAL – Silence from the Kingdom of God/Heaven.

Rev 8:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was ((cause to be “gen”-erated, to become, arise, be assembled, be finished, be ended)) silence ((hush, resting, (relative))) in ((about)) heaven (about the space) of half ((partition, semi)) an hour.

Since this usage of “hour” is from Greek “hemiorion” a combination of “hemisu” as a partition or semi or half and “hora” – a “day or hour, season, (high) time, it could be reflective of either/or the 40 year “hour” (using the 1 day Next Level to 1000 years formula Jesus disciple Peter reported, and TI and DO and Crew often made reference to), which half of would be 20 human years.

Since the indication here is that the “silence, hush, resting” period is “generated” there may still be some forms of communication provided by the Next Level before the last events that spade the current human civilization. Apparently every human doesn’t die during this period – only those that became waste – of no future value to the Next Level. That was also indicated by Jesus when he said, “the “meek who shall inherit the earth” – the next group of people the Next Level seems to start a classroom through – the human vehicles saved Souls are assigned to try to take over to overcome in the start of the “new earth” and “new heaven” after the 1000 years.

Having analyzed this entire Book of Revelations it seems that the chapter divisions especially had Next Level helper assistance. Most can be sectioned off by their content but others are not so clear. In this one case in particular it would seem to make more sense to have included Rev 8:1 with Chapter 7 since it is the opening of the 7th and last seal, where chapters 6 and 7 contain the First through Sixth Seal Openings. But considering that the Next Level could have guided those who made these choices, namely said to be Archbishop Stephen Langton in the early 13th century, I’ve looked at Chapter 8 in a special way that can possibly be showing a type of cyclic new classroom beginning or the time to manifest the greater recycling announced with each of the Trumpet Soundings. The 7 Soundings were largely announcing who was coming when and what events were to accompany them that would have lessor degrees of manifestation during the preparatory early 17th and 18th centuries, primarily in the third of the planet of Europe to Africa and regarding Next Level membership arrival in the U.S.

As was shown in the section on the 7 Angels Sounding their Trumpets, they seem to be quite well connected to the 7 Angels who Pour out their Vials and constitute a great deal of the start of the Wrath of God that seems to be connected in the timeline to extend to after the 1000 years when the Luciferian are locked up underground.

Rev 21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb’s wife.
Rev 21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
Rev 21:11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;

It would seem this is the ARK in Rev 11:19 and as it is referred to in it’s introduction as the “Tabernacle of God” when the term “God” is differentiated from the LAMB or JESUS, thus mostly indicating who Do called the “Chief Administrator of the Earth” – His Older Member who was incarnate and named TI. This is further confirmed by Rev 12:1’s “woman’s” identity as having “upon her head a crown of twelve stars:” and verses Rev 21:12-20 describe it’s construction with twelve as a theme throughout.

This next verse depicts the street of the spacecraft as transparent glass which is what is depicted in Rev 4:6 as a “sea of glass like unto crystal” as a visual component of the “throne,” thus another example that points to this New Jerusalem craft being TI’s craft and crew. Do used to say, we had to live up to certain standards to be invited onto “TI’s Crew”:

Rev 21:21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls: every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.

According to Rev 21:22-27 this spacecraft has no temple (dwelling), saying the Lord God Almighty and Lamb are it’s temple. This “city” has no need of sun or moon as the glory of God and the Lamb light it. It’s indicated to provide the light for all who were saved – the references to a multitude. Yet it indicates not allowing anyone who defiles themselves can enter it. They have to be in the Lamb’s Book of life. Therefore indicating the classroom for those who are saved so they don’t defile themselves with “fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars” behavior and ways. Again this indicates a type of classroom continues even though as Do said it could take several forms.

In summation it would seem that it’s during each of the 6th trumpet/seals/vials that the Older Members and their Crew are present, incarnate during the FIRST HARVEST WAVE and in their Spacecrafts for the LAST HARVEST WAVE. It is during the 7th Trumpet that the Seven Seals are opened starting with the 7th Thunder – the Heaven’s Gate “midheaven” prophecy beginning and ending with their voluntary exit of their human vehicles that became global news as TI and DO said it would in 1984-5. It is during the 6th Seal time that Do in some way shows his “presence” to the world and then during the 6th Plague/Calamity, (Vial pouring) that He comes back with his graduate students in their spacecrafts en-masse while the Luciferian Space Aliens are allowed to have their own harvest of human Souls who did not choose to show their allegiance to the Next Level and human DNA. It is during the 7th Seal that the 7th Vial is poured out that starts the greater part of the earth spading/recycling for 1000 years that brings about a final type of classroom and the final judgment during which Souls and Spirits (discarnate humans) who aren’t in the Book of Life are dissolved in the Lake of Fire. The righteous according to the Next Level remain. The question will always be for each of us, “whose side are we on?” It’s either TI and DO’s or the Luciferian Space Alien run Human Kingdom.

V. UNDERCOVER “JESUS” SURFACES BEFORE DEPARTURE – Do’s writing that was published to 90 World Wide Web Newsgroups in 1995 – the 6th Roar/Thunder. Part of the start of what would become the LAST HARVEST WAVE:

The original can be found on my blog at:

Undercover “Jesus” Surfaces Before Departure, By Do

I, Sawyer who was present with Do for 19 years (10 of which while TI was incarnate), from 1975 to 1994 that can be seen on the first, second and a few other of the Beyond Human video tapes as Do’s “helper,” sat in front of him to hear him say all these things many times in various ways. So I am an eye witness. I wanted to include this document just the way Do wrote it but because of the way Do’s writings have been copyrighted by others who I can not trust would give me permission to include in my book (and because my book is for sale as the best way to distribute it most widely), to not infringe on those human laws I’m re-writing Do’s document in my words, like I said the words I heard him say many times:

1. Do said he is a member of the Kingdom of God which is in generic terms referred to as “The Evolutionary Level Above Human” and that he is about to return to his Father’s Kingdom.

A. He said this return requires him to prepare to lay down his borrowed human body so he can renter his biological body that belongs to the Kingdom of God, just as he did approximately 2000 years ago when he laid down the human body that was about 33 years old in order to reenter his body belonging to the Kingdom of Heaven.

B. He said The Level Above Human is a physical Kingdom Level and it is in the physical Heavens aka space. Those who are in that Kingdom identify with their Soul and its mind (aka spirit) and not with the “flesh” or physical body they “wear.”

2. He says that this time his “Older Member” (who he realized was his Heavenly Father) came with him. It was in the early 1970’s that they incarnated into adult human bodies that were in their forties. About 2000 years ago, He incarnated into a body that was in its late 20’s or early 30’s just prior to, during and following his baptism with John the Baptist. (Note the incarnation was performed in stages as it takes time to put Next Level Mind into a human vehicle, although He said the Jesus body had been specially prepared for that task.)

3. He said it seemed each time we, or others come from the Level Above Human, to Earth or leave, it is by the transportation of a Next Level spacecraft.

4. He said his Father is an Older Member in the Next Level.

Note: They said that on earth there was the Mineral Kingdom then the Plant Kingdom and then the Animal Kingdom to the Human Kingdom but that the Human Kingdom was designed as a “stepping stone” or said in scripture as a “footstool” for Souls to graduate by their will and efforts by adopting all they are given by the incarnate Older Members who they can not graduate without as they must literally please both Older Members while with them in the flesh. However, those that can not be with them in the flesh now because they are not incarnate can still advance towards their graduation to adult membership and can even be rewarded with a student level membership in the Next Level that if they continue can be brought back to have the needed overcoming experience with the incarnate Older Member to gain Adult Next Level Membership that includes eternal life and significant service opportunities in their new Next Level family.

A. He said his “Father” birthed him into that Kingdom by taking him through his overcoming of a mammalian civilization and that this took place long before this current human civilization started. (Revelations chapter 12 indicates His Father births him again to the “throne” task that they then performed together before His Father exited the female vehicle he had taken to perform that task.)

B. He said he served as His “Father’s” student and apprentice while in relationship with this current civilization.

Note: TI actually said he served in the tasks/vehicles of Adam, Enoch, Moses, Elijah, then Jesus and to date in the name Do, pronounced “doe” which came in part from the Sound of Music SONG, a fulfillment of prophecy in Revelations chapter 14. TI and DO felt the Next Level works often by inspiring producers and directors and writers and that the Sound of Music was in particular shaped to provide a type of wake up smelling salt to TI and DO and their task. They said their task as TI and DO was their “6th closeness” and that the 7th and last closeness was as the “Jesus” return. This document represents the start of that seventh closeness as it’s the same Older Member but the seventh closeness in not an incarnate one. He will be in his Next Level vehicle. Rev 14:14 indicates it would be a vehicle that was “like unto the son of man” and Rev 19:13 indicates he is “clothed with a vesture dipped in blood,” what seems to be a direct reference to how when he was incarnate in the vehicle named Jesus he was baptized by shedding his blood – giving his life – laying down his body on his Older Member’s instruction as he said:

Joh 10:18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

And he commissioned his disciples to follow in his footsteps as part of their requirement to be his disciple – to drink the same cup of his blood which every aspirant to membership in the Kingdom of Heaven must eventually rise to do. That is because each will have taken in enough Next Level Mind (holy spirit) to know that their physical human body is not who they have become and that they will trust their Soul will live on in the Next Level’s care, even though it’s a most difficult task to rise to because of how our human flesh generally wants to live. But the overcoming process entails overriding the human flesh and we can grow in that process by taking on all the behaviors and ways the Older Members provide us in whatever lesson step we are engaged which is ALL accomplished by asking the help of our Older Members whether they are incarnate or not. At this time the direct connection is to ask the help of TI and DO – asking for the strength to take the next steps they would have us each take that they will then help us to recognize and take while leaving it up to our free will on how fast to grow towards graduation.

C. He said that His Father’s relationship to earth was one of “Chief Administrator” and that His Father is the One referred to as the “True God” in the early phases of this civilization.

5. He said that this time around He came with His Older Member in a way They called “undercover,” to help Him pick up where the process left off about 2000 years ago to further birth and provide “fathering” experience with those Souls who would be the next new children in the Level Above Human, aka “sons.” He said this gave Him more experience in the birthing process. He said TI returned to His Next Level station in 1985 but continued to assist Him and communicate with Him from a more advanced perspective. (Note, Do speaks of TI as a “Him” because there is no gender to Next Level Souls or their biological vehicles they wear, though there is a purpose to what gender human vehicle a souls takes to overcome.)

A. He said his Father incarnated in a female body for His 15-year stay.

B. He said most of Their task required not acknowledging who They were historically which was a strategy because They wanted as little recognition and interference as possible to be able to gather the souls who were their students from the past. They were still identified as a tiny radical cult, because just like 2000 years ago prospective members left their families and relationships to follow Him and be his student. He said he knew he would be hated again for what Christians would call “blasphemy” because of saying who He is and he will be hated by families, etc. who are affected by all who aspire to leave with him/them because the mission requires forsaking all ties and binds to this world (family ties, responsibilities, and human-mammalian indulgences).

6. He said prospective new “sons” (souls who occupy both male and female bodies) were gathered by He and TI from 1975-76 and then in 1994 which was after TI had exited her incarnation and that all these souls had had a previous relationship with Him before this incarnation.

7. He said “students” were offered the opportunity to bond with Him and His Father just like bride would bond with her husband.

A. He said, since the Next Level has no mammalian or human members, these students had to become “new creatures.” They would bond in mind, spirit, and behavior that would be void of human sexuality, human types of binds, and addictions of this world. Some of the students with male vehicles chose on their own to have their vehicles neutered, aka castrated professionally to help them sustain a more genderless and objective consciousness.

Note: Jesus approved of such an action for the Kingdom of Heaven’s sake. (Mat 19:12)

B. He also said that students who successfully bond to the Level Above Human through Him and His Father must also prepare to lay down their human bodies as we go to the Kingdom of Heaven, in order to take bodies appropriate to and belonging to that more advanced Kingdom.

8. He said as they prepare to lay down their human vehicles and announce entry into the Next Kingdom as available there might be many humans who have received “souls” in “deposits” who may choose to separate from everything of their world to go with them.

A. He said these will try to rid themselves of their old minds, and identities to instead fill themselves with the mind that flows through him to be accepted as one of his “children.” He says it will “cost” them everything of this world, they will desperately desire to be rid of fast.

B. He said to go with him, expecting to leave “very soon,” would be students must look to Him and His students for all their needs as best they can and align with them – breaking human bonds. He said if these new students declare to others that TI and DO and Crew’s presence is from the Kingdom of God that leads to the “laying down” of their bodies in pursuit of the Next Kingdom as well, then they, too, will find themselves in the safekeeping of that Next Kingdom. By safekeeping He is saying they will be in line to receive further nurturing toward membership in the Next Level.

C. He said if TI doesn’t require this “disposition” of them, TI will take them up into His spacecraft (that will look to us as a cloud of light) before they “lay down their bodies.”

9. He said Humans with deposits containing souls can most likely be recognized as some of those who are quickly losing respect for this human world or its “system.” From an establishment point of view, they are acting irresponsible, anti-social, duped, crazy, as a drifter, loner, drop-out, separatist, or cult member, etc.

10. He said a humans lifestyle, belief system, or moral values don’t matter much in between “visits” from incarnate Members of the Next Level like now and 2000 years ago. What’s important is that the Kingdom of Heaven is here NOW in HIM and in HIS students.

11. He said the evidence they speak the truth is:

A. Their information and actions match recorded accounts of the presence, behavior and mission and departure of our previous visits from the Next Level while offering membership in the Kingdom of Heaven, Kingdom of God.

B. Any Soul who knew anyone from the Next Level during past visits are capable of recognizing them and their information again now.

C. It appears some of the crashed spacecrafts were staged by the Next Level that delivered some of them to help human skeptics realize earth has otherworldly visitors.

12. He said just as 2000 years ago, no one gets to His Father or enters the Kingdom of Heaven except through Him. No other Son of His Father or Representative from the Next Level is incarnate. He said connecting with “that kingdom” only takes place when a Member is incarnate, as he is today.

Note: To those who would see this statement from Do as indicating, since he’s no longer incarnate, there is therefore no way to “connect with the Next Level,” they are not correct, though it can seem to some a cut and dry statement, so can be used by some as an excuse to not learn more about what he said that broadens that perspective. That would be one’s choice to see that way and the Next Level Older Members do “test” us, which considering everything else he said before and after writing this statement, this appears to be one of those tests. Taking what he said verbatim it is quite possible that everyone that comes to believe in and follow his teachings did “connect” with “that Kingdom” during the time when he was incarnate. For instance, one could have been 10 years old when they heard about the Heavens Gate cult and saw the Hale Bopp Comet and they could have had thoughts and feelings that led them to connect in whatever way at that time. Actually, several told me this happened to them when they were about that age. One told me, when he saw them on the news and saw the comet he had the thought that these were “the Saints” in the Bible. Others told me they knew this cult was different from all the others they heard about – an intuitive knowing, not because they had studied it all as they were very young in 1997. Do said that as long as a Rep was present incarnate “tags” and/or deposits of recognition could be given so these seem to be some examples. Do didn’t say “connect with him,” he said, “connect with that kingdom.”

He was also saying He is the only one who would be incarnate. Whether we connect with the Next Kingdom by projecting our asking to the highest Beings we can imagine exists or to the Hale Bopp comet, thinking someone might be in or on it or along side it, in it’s tail or generally with it in a spacecraft is connecting, though since He was the primary focus in the news surrounding their exit, however one connects is also connecting with him personally because he is serving/representing the Next Kingdom via his incarnation. He is the provided Link. His incarnate presence is the link – what he said and did while he was incarnate is the only instructions to follow. So that means everything he taught while incarnate for as long as it is present is the way to connect with him which includes talking to him right now.

Additionally, if this wasn’t the case, how is it that Do said in the Beyond Human Series and said in the video, Last Chance to Evacuate Earth Before It’s Recycled, given by Do on September 29, 1996, thus long after the Undercover “Jesus.”.. document, that there are three kinds or types of individuals that can have a possible future with the Kingdom of God and escape the spading under. The third type are those that never even heard of TI and DO so if they could only connect with the Next Level during his incarnation and that meant only through him, if they didn’t know of him how could they connect and be saved? It’s because as he explains some begin to separate from the world and are even seen by the world as derelict, irresponsible, cultists, separatist, even militia types (though not condoning being violent in any way) who hate the status quo and/or the human governments and/or the overall system, though they don’t know what other option there is. Do suggested Randy Weaver, and the Branch Davidians as some examples.

13. He said there are space aliens that are humanoids who are remnants from other civilizations that have spacecrafts and travel in near space. He says they grow and harvest hybrid bodies to “wear” and they enlist “souls” who fail to become children in the Kingdom of Heaven/God who are called Luciferians because of their lineage.

14. He said These Luciferian space aliens “jump in” immediately after Next Level Representatives exit their incarnation and influence remaining “patriarch(s)” to mix truth and misinformation together to become a new religion which supports the fact that accurate knowledge concerning the Next Level is only available while there are incarnate Representatives.

15. He said the Next Level sends crews to “tag” or make “deposits” in human bodies and their minds/spirits just before and during the time Next Level Representatives are incarnate “offering” their birth. Deposits offer the recipients “recognition” of the Representatives and, to some degree, recognition of the “information” from the Next Level while also serving as “homing devices” to lead recipients to the Representatives and the information to move closer to their graduation into the Next Kingdom. Without these “deposits” that provide “recognition,” a human can not become a student.

16. He said all souls of this civilization who ever received deposits from the Next Level have returned at this close of the Age. The Next Level tasks their servants, TI and DO and Crew to test them. How they respond to Do and His students, and Their information will become the criteria to judge whether a human will or will not have a further relationship with the Kingdom of God. Coming in contact with this information forces their decision and by the stand each human takes they judges themselves, choose to be saved (redeemed) or not. Those who accept TI and DO and Crew and endure until They leave will go with Them so won’t need to experience the “spading under” or recycling of this earth – and will in the future become new beginning members in the real Above Human Kingdom Level in the Heavens.


TI&DO The Father & “Jesus” Heaven’s Gate UFO Two Witnesses-Section IV.E.-Fifth Seal Opening-Remaining “Saints” Give Their Lives in Service

March 13, 2017


FIRST and LAST, OIL and WINE – stages of growth into the Next Level:

Regarding the usage of “LAST” – Do labeled his 12 part video series “Beyond Human – The Last call” which as it turned out was the start of what could be considered the second “rapture” – drawing returned Souls to take over human vehicles to separate from their world to give 100% to everything TI and DO said and did. Do was clear in another document from a later video tape named, “Last Chance to Evacuate Earth Before It’s Recycled” that what was meant by LAST applied to those they gathered in the 1994 nine months of public meetings AND to those that came to believe in everything TI and DO taught and began their metamorphosis by engaging their separation from the world and overcoming of their human characteristics (as TI and DO’s FIRST students did).

Potential graduate students fall into one of two harvest time descriptions of either the FIRST, depicted as the OIL or the LAST depicted as the WINE. Both are illustrated as requiring their giving their human lives (the olive or the grape dies to yield it’s fruit in these analogies) in service to the Older Members who are/were incarnate that in turn produces fruit – the olive oil or grape juice, where the fruit of the vine show their fruit by how much they begin their metamorphosis – (changing (fermentation, like Jesus compared to yeast and bread but is also the way grape juice becomes a new living product) of grape juice into wine (to be “saved” by the Next Level to be brought back to have a chance to become oil) and/or burning the oil to produce light, a tree and a Christ, because of how they then become a new vine to give life to others in the human kingdom).

This FIRST and LAST seems to be who Jesus was speaking about that think themselves FIRST to go to Heaven, namely as a group, Christians, but who will be really slated to have their primary opportunity to move closer to Next Level service LAST. This can also be seen as related to the two parts of the “book” that has Seven Seals as shown in Rev 5 as having a “written from WITHIN and on the BACKSIDE” while also related to Rev 10’s saying the “little book,” presumably the BACKSIDE MYSTERIES aren’t revealed until the time during the 7th Angel’s Trumpet Sounding which takes place AFTER the Two and their Crew of Two Older Members (TI and DO), 4 Living Beings and 24 Elders have ascended in what to humans is their unseen (spirit/mind) Soul birth.

Further, those who were among the 42 students who laid down their lives with Do (that counts 4 who were with Do but by their choice left the class before the 38 layed down their lives, but who layed down their lives soon after the 38, as Do said still qualified them to “go with us”), might be the difference from 28 (4 Living Beings and 24 Elders), essentially 14 who could have been left in the middle (or 2nd heaven) to receive one type of Next Level made/grown vehicle, perhaps a “student” model tailored for them, while the 28 went to the highest 3rd heaven to receive an “adult” model Next Level made/grown vehicle.

The idea that there are different sections of “Heaven,” I would suggest is relative to what was commonly passed down in the Jewish Mithra – the word of mouth rabbinic historic records so that the first heaven would be where some are saved to, (in their Soul body) who don’t receive Next Level vehicles yet. They are where souls and/or spirits are “saved” which would also have within it, “boxes” as TI and DO called them. Some of these boxes might be referred to as “paradise” by Jesus to the thief on the cross who believed in who Jesus was, but hadn’t had hardly any lessons yet, so was simply “put on ice” (as TI and DO said – not literal ice though) and would be what was also termed “Abraham’s bosom” before Jesus time. I would think that the Luciferian discarnates, the fallen angels who had since their fall lost their human or equivalent vehicles were restricted to certain areas so to not interfere with those saved in these Next Level boxes, though could traverse other areas in that first heaven where other dropout souls would go but where mortal spirits could not circulate when they left their human or equivalent vehicles.

Do referred to the “heavens” the Luciferian Space Aliens were taking some souls to in this excerpt from the newspaper, “USA TODAY” in an Ad/Statement Do and Crew put into the May 27, 1993 National and International publications entitled, “UFO CULT” RESURFACES WITH FINAL OFFER:

“The Luciferians are about to be “recycled” (annihilated) at the same time as this human civilization is “spaded.” They know that “rumor has it” that their days are numbered. They refuse to believe it and are desperate to recruit souls from the human kingdom into their “Heavenly Kingdom.” There are many “counterfeit” heavens, and each “heaven” is at this time collecting “names in their book,” forcing a stand of allegiance, polarizing each individual’s commitment to his chosen “God.”

But there is still the question of where the 4 Living Beings fit in as they are not shown to “cast/throw down their crowns” while the four and twenty elders do as shown in:

Rev 4:10 The four and twenty elders ((they shall)) fall down ((pipto/petomai= light on, to descend from an erect to a prostrate position, to fall dead)) before ((in the face of)) him that sat on the throne, and worship ((work for)) him that liveth for ever and ever (([the Father/Jehovah])), and cast ((ballo= violently throw down)) their ((own)) crowns (([the physical vehicles they were awarded when they laid down their own lives for Jesus])) before ((in the face of)) the throne, saying,

But the Four Living Beings do LIGHT/LAY DOWN THEIR OWN/SELF LIVES as shown in Rev 5:8 and Rev 19:4 with the 24 elders so they are not considered part of the group of 24 Elders. Actually they are quite linked to the Four Living Creatures in Ezekiel chapter 1 and 3 – the depiction of their having wings like described in Rev 4. They each have six of these wings which may be more than coincidence that 6 times 4 equals 24 as if the wings are the twenty four elders they are perhaps in charge of, perhaps like captains which is the meaning of an archangel that it seems Do was, in the name Michael, seen spoken of in the book of Daniel which was before he incarnated to perform the Jesus task. And these four are compared with the same animals as Daniel 7 uses to describe four human kings that seem to match the way these four living beings introduce the first four of the seven seals opening which only the first is opened by the Lamb (who is the one who was incarnate in the name Jesus).

And regarding these four, this next verse strongly suggests these four as “seen in a ring or circle around the throne” which can reflect to the WHEELS OF EZEKIEL but in practical application be among the “inner circle” one might say for the Two Witnesses, the Father (Throne/TI) and Lamb (Jesus/Do) which again reflects the position as the very same four archangels. Perhaps these 4 are in line to perform the task the Archangel Michael held that prepared him for his tasks since the start of this latest experiment that led to his sitting on the throne. Further in this next verse these four are said to have “eyes.”.. “in front of, in place and/or time” and also at the “backside” in place and/or time:

Rev 4:6 And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst ((3319 mesos from meta 3326 “amid”; middle (as an adjective or (neuter) noun)= among, X before them, between, + forth, mid(-day, -night), midst, way)) of the throne, and round about ((2945 kukloi as if dative case of kuklos (a ring, “cycle” i.e. in a circle, i.e. (adverbially) all around= round about)) the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before ((1715 emprosthen from en 1722 and pros 4314; in front of (in place (literally or as a figure) or time), in the presence of, in sight of, denoting rank)) and behind ((3693 opisthen from opis (regard; from 3700) with enclitic of source; from the rear (as a secure aspect), i.e. at the back (adverb and preposition of place or time)= after, backside, behind)).

– “eyes” – In the early 1980’s TI and DO instigated a task they called “eyes.” Every student was scheduled to perform this task. All it entailed was “watching” their fellow classmates. There would be two on duty for a hour at a time during all waking hours who would circulate in the areas where students were active – (never in the bath chambers or rest chambers). The task continued for a number of months. Each of these “eyes” had a clipboard that was metal like the ones TI used when her vehicle was employed as a nurse in hospitals. The task was to write down anything they saw that they questioned as procedure or behavior of a member of the Next Level according to what TI and DO taught. The main set of guidelines were outlined in a document TI and DO wrote up called “The 17 Steps.”

In 1985, before TI left her vehicle, each student received a little black 3″ x 5″ bound booklet that contained this list and other materials TI and DO wrote to help us with our lessons of taking over our human vehicle. This was one part of it’s contents:

17 Steps – Behavioral Guidelines Given by TI and DO to Students

After each shift the next shift was free to read what the previous shift recorded and at the end of the day, the list would be sent to TI and DO and sometimes they would give new procedures or a lesson that the ones doing the “eye’s” task were seeing things through a human critical eye and not in a Next Level way and sometimes individuals were called by TI and DO or met with or sometimes another student delivered a message from TI and DO about something that was recorded about them or they called a meeting to talk about what was recorded.

On the part of the verse that says these would be “in front of,” in place and/or time and also at the “backside” in place and/or time, it’s once again very interesting that “backside” is the same word used in Rev 5:1 that refers to the backside of the book that is opened during the periods of time referred to as the seven seals that these four Living Beings announce. I have considered “backside” of the book to refer to the history of what the Next Level said and did through it’s Representatives before this return of TI and DO’s witnesses testimony – bringing of new understanding and “plain/bold” prophecy – speaking words inspired by the Next Level. That backside is then insinuated as after the 7th angel’s trumpet sounding which takes place after the Two Witnesses and 42 students have “ascended” in their “spirit” (unseen like the wind – as Jesus described it) births. And then with that the front side would mean they participated even ahead of TI and DO’s arrival and/or it may just mean they had key positions (seats) during TI and DO’s provision of disclosures said as the Seven Thunders (aka roars) related to the Lion of Juda – the one who served in the vehicle named, Jesus.

I believe the backside portion of the Book’s revealings refers to the time of the primary revealing of the remaining mysteries to help prepare and call out to and help awaken those called the, ELECT OR REMAINING OR REMNANT, who could be in the LAST stage of harvest – those who probably have or had a strong “christian” background, though are probably mostly those who can no longer really participate in certain church groups because of how most become so particular that they use a certain Bible translation and/or certain interpretations and/or certain rituals or practices and hierarchies and definitions of terms and internal and external politics, social judgments, elitist, arrogance, closed mindedness and plenty of hypocrisies and lack of attention to what Jesus actually said to focus on. Do went to seminary and said he dropped out because they were too limiting of what they would study and talk about/consider.

So with all that said if I were to make an educated guess at which classmates could have been fulfilling the Four Living Beings task which besides the time spent in the FRONT SIDE with TI and DO became their task to perform in the BACKSIDE, coordinated with their “animal” descriptions that have a resemblance to Ezekiel’s Four Living Beings, as well as in Rev 4, but seen in Revelations chapter 6’s first Four Horses;

1) This first White Horse represented by a “LION” (Lion of Juda=Jesus) announced by Lvvody (note her name came from the word “Live” she selected but I doubt she had knowledge of that word in the Bible pertaining to the four Living Beings) in his vehicles name Marshall (as in a Sheriff) Applewhite (Adam’s fall (missing of the mark (sin) made pure by his graduation via the vehicle named Enoch).

2) The second Red or Ruddy Horse, described as a “Calf” as G.W. Bush, invited to come and see by Jnnody.

3) The third Black/Blue Horse as “man faced” by Barack Obama invited to come and see by Lggody (though Dstody may be in this mix, given he had a “black” vehicle and showed up to me in a dream to tell me Obama was the “black horse”).

4) The fourth Green Horse yet to see who fulfills it invited to come and see by Jwnody (considering how she had a vehicle that had that Irish (green) strain as she demonstrated in her exit tape. These four (Lvvody, Jnnody, Lggody and Jwnody) were the most consistent regular “helpers” to both TI and then to Do over the years.

With that said, I could imagine this next verse could include the 14 Souls who may have received a differend assignment, receiving their student model Next Level vehicles later as it just so happens this is the amount of new students that joined during the second “rapture” (LAST WAVE) that moreorless began on 1/1/94 when four groups embarked across the U.S. to hold public meetings again after 17 years of seclusion overcoming their humanness. Their names in the group were, Gldody aka Golden, Wknody aka Waken, Yrsody aka Iris, Dvvody aka David, Evnody aka Even, Avnody aka Aven, Leody aka Lee, Tddody aka Todd, Vrnody aka Vern and Qstody aka Quest. Then four who were outside the classroom at exit time for various reasons of their own but still believed in TI and DO and layed down their lives before the year 2000 were named, Jstody aka Justin, Rkkody aka Rick, Oscody aka Oscar and Gbbody aka Gabby.

There were reports of a few others who ended their vehicles life, one in fact saying he was doing so to join the Heavens Gate group on the comet who put a purple veil over himself and then asphyxiated his vehicle using propane and a plastic bag. He was a former Grateful Dead roadie I heard. I don’t know if he ever spent any time with TI and DO but I don’t doubt his Soul would be saved for a future opportunity to graduate in the future.

Rev 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under ((beneath, bottom or foot, where Jehovah/Moses assigned a student to pour the animals blood during the Brazen altar sacrifice)) the altar ((geographically wherever the sacrifice is designed by the Next Level to take place [U.S. mainland])) the souls (psuche from psucho= breath [receiving the “Breath of Life” is what made Adam a “Living Soul”])) of them that were slain ((4969 sphazo= sacrificial death)) for the word of God ((from the sword of the mouth of the most current Older Member, [Do])), and for ((because of, for sake of)) the testimony ((3141 marturia from martus= evidence given, record, report, testimony, witness)) which they held.

The altar is where “the sacrifice” is performed, which in the most literal context that can be applicable at this time is the specific geography where the Kingdom of God sets up their kingdom (experiential classroom), as Jesus said his kingdom would return to, which includes returning students (saints) described as their “resurrection (to stand up again aka incarnate – to take over flesh vehicles) of the just” to once again, voluntarily give up (sacrifice) their human lives (leave all behind when they get the call from the Older Member – being caught away (aka raptured)) and who would lay down their vehicles, again according to their Older Members instructions. This is what seems to be meant by sacrifice “for the WORD – Mind – of God (deity) (in this context would mean in accordance with the teachings/instructions (qualifications) of those who served as the Two Witnesses in the “song” names of TI and DO.)

In this context, note these die in such a way that is related to how an animal was sacrificed in the Jehovah and Moses experiential classroom. The terms don’t designate exactly the method. It is symbolic but when it speaks of their being slain it is referring to their vehicles as their souls can not be slain by humans or space aliens and they don’t have blood and the altar was always a physical geographic location. To translate all this in etheric ways would be yet another Luciferian distraction from the truth, which it’s true many do, which is why those who cling to those interpretations may never see the truth and reality they represent. Thus here is some context to these representations.

The blood of the animal was poured on the bottom part under or beneath the altar, which in the records was also a way of saying the animals life-force (blood) went into the earth (grave). Plus it seems this procedure could show how it was to be an undercover sacrifice, the total modus operandi of the Older Members plan to come as a “thief” – in secret/unseen except to be seen by those who were prepared to recognize the voice of their shepherd – part of that voice being the requirement to leave all behind to follow with the older members, what Jesus said to his disciples they needed to do to be in his class.

For me personally, I did respond to the first poster I saw in 1975 that was advertising the meeting location for basically two reasons I recall thinking then. I was curious what these two from this “level beyond the Earth’s confines” would look like, I remember saying to the woman I was with that also joined and was known in the class as Srfody who dropped out of the class in 1987 with Mrcody. I didn’t believe or disbelieve the claims and I was not a UFO buff at all. I didn’t even know about Roswell at that time, at least consciously but, it seemed I did know about it subconsciously. And it seemed to mean something to me to hear that some did “devote their total energy to the transitional process,” as it said. I feel I anticipated this requirement.

That preparation includes the “gift of recognition” which provides the impetus to rise up to see/understand. Keeping it mysterious to most others is very effective against the Luciferian space aliens as they need time to build their most effective opposition so in many ways varied strategies are used so the Representatives are only one step ahead of their students in understandings, which is why TI and DO didn’t know certain things until the end and didn’t get into certain things at all, because as they said many times, it was not needed for their classroom. They didn’t make things up or put things into grandiose spiritual sounding mystic seeming overviews though on rare occasions did throw out tidbits of overview but still without drama or poetry or hidden meanings or great generalities as can be seen many so called spiritual or religious teachers from India did that many North Americans and Northern Europeans especially flocked to in the 1960’s and 1970’s and even still do to date.

This verse is set to the past tense further indicating it was fulfilled by those in the FIRST HARVEST WAVE who were TI and DO’s students, the 38 + 4 afterward = 42 who layed down their lives voluntarily according to their Older Members instructions (for the Word of God) and did so while leaving behind their written and video testimonies that are still available to see on and in other places. But why this is being brought up now in this fifth seal, I believe is because I suspect some of those 42 may not have left the 2nd of the perhaps 3 areas in the heavens. I suspect the 4 Living Beings and 24 elders of the group did go on to the 3rd heaven, possibility to the Pluto or Ceres bases while perhaps some were left who weren’t ready for graduation into adult Next Level bodies received student model Next Level bodies and tasks to work for the Next Level in the 1st and/or 2nd heavens that may include a type of “rest” period as will be further interpreted in the next two verses.

Various Christian theologians, bloggers, teachers, leaders, interpreters get pieces of different parts of how certain of these mysteries may play out but not having the KEY of TI and DO’s arrival often think all the Christian martyrs since Jesus are those in the FIRST group, which again may be true because they would probably be the souls who were the ones with Jesus and/or any who gave their lives to spreading Jesus message of separation from the world – leaving all behind and abiding by all he taught and giving one’s life in His service, as that is what he asked them to do upon his exit. But TI and DO always said “everyone who came with them was going back” so I imagine would have yet another opportunity to move towards their graduation from the human kingdom. But to be in this grouping of those said to have given their lives would still mean doing so through taking over a human vehicle prepared for them. In other words the Next Level has to give that seed to each human vehicle who “catches the eye of one of their representatives.” Do and Crew spoke about that seed as a “deposit” of which there were different kinds that contained different programs that would be a “match,” they called it, appropriate for either a returning Soul or for a new Soul’s further growth.

Rev 6:10 And they cried ((exclaimed, called aloud, screamed)) with a loud ((great, high, mighty, large, strong)) voice ((phone= disclosure)), saying, How long, O Lord, holy ((pure)) and true ((real)), dost thou not judge ((distinguish, conclude)) and avenge ((1556 ekdikeo= vindicate)) our blood ((atoning bloodshed in the winepress of Christing)) on ((apo= for, off, away (exit))) (them that) dwell ((house, inhabit)) on ((over)) the earth ((human kingdom))?

This seems to be those same graduate souls checking on the timing of the conclusion – the separating of the sheep from the goats that they help with. But it shows it’s timing with the same depiction of the “vindication” (as avenging implies “getting even” which I believe is a human characteristic even though the Kingdom of God is “just” and people get their due, what they sow they reap, which is the way the system is designed to work which is based on our own choices that the Next Level gives us many chances to change.

A vindication to me shows that just/fairness without the implication of being bent on punishment to inflict even though that’s what results. To the Next Level they are simply eliminating the weeds. Does the gardener think or say to those weeds, “take that and that – I am tearing you up because of how bad you are and how you deserve this fate and I want you to suffer for it.” To me that’s more vengeance minded. No, what they think is it’s time to clean up and start fresh. But then one may think, why demonstrate their being vindicated and why do the weeds end up suffering. I may be wrong but I believe it can serve the Next Level that these who go against the Next Level remain in some way perhaps indefinitely or maybe eternal, in that respect, meaning there is no coming back from that condition of the SECOND DEATH, but perhaps the program (what that Soul became) keeps seeking to play in some way that if it’s left in the ethers can serve as a motivation to others to not go against the Next Level. It might be like putting a tombstone by a corner where many have crashed and lost their lives. It serves as a potential unseen reminder that “fear” of death is a good thing if it keeps one from dying because they become more careful which can apply to our choices day to day and ultimately in respect to our relationship with the Kingdom of God Older Members. I would think if a child trys to touch a burning fire it would serve them well to scare the daylights out of them instead of letting them suffer the more severe consequence of touching that fire.

It is said in Rev 19:2 that they are vindicated when the Next Level “judged the whore” which is shown and described in Rev 17 and 18 which in the timeline of these seals seems to be during the opening of the sixth seal so will be documented then.

Rev 6:11 And white ((keukos from luke (“light”)= white)) robes were given ((1325 didomi= or bestowed, tasked, granted, made, furnished)) (unto every one of) them; and (it was) said (unto) them, that (they should) rest ((373 anapano and hina (may)= collect strength and remain)) yet for a little season ((chronos= space of time)), until their fellowservants ((those with the same bond of possessing instrumentality)) also and their brethren ((born from same womb)), (that) should be ((3195 mello= expect to be (as a necessity, probability, possibility))) killed ((apokteino in this context is in the infinitive mood which isn’t a certainty but implies belief that the action of “separating by dying” serves a purpose)) as ((5613 hos= after (that), (according), even as, how, like, about, so (that))) they ((themselves)) (were), should be ((3739 hos= demonstrative pronoun – who, which, what, that: one, some, that , what, which, who(-m, -se), etc.)) fulfilled ((44137 pleroo from pleres 4134= to make replete, furnish, imbue, satisfy, execute (an office), finish (a period or task), verify, accomplish, complete, end, perfect)).

Even though the Greek word used has a relationship to “light” in how pure light is white, this word is translated as white most everywhere it’s used and often that’s comparing it as a coloration as to snow or lambs wool or to white clothing that can’t be washed or dyed any whiter. I’m only saying this because TI and DO described the physical vehicles the Next Level grows for it’s members as truly white, not grey as we see among some of the myriad of space alien abduction and contactee reports.

Coloration of human skin have nothing to do with a ranking of purity or supremacy. That’s another Luciferian distortion. If anything, perhaps logically speaking, often what can be a measure of what is real, I would imagine it’s possible that the lighter the skin color the more those genes may have originated from the student model, made Next Level vehicles that the ones who were the original fallen angels may have been issued that they wore while having their elementary tasks for the Next Level on board spacecrafts, as if they then mixed their seed, that the student model vehicles were still capable of generating, perhaps that resulted in lighter skinned offspring from whatever coloration of humans they reproduced with at that time. If that has any accuracy then I would guess if the entire planet was flooded, then since the Luciferians somehow survived they could have preserved some of their seed and then re-hybridized it with Noah’s family thereafter or had enough carrier wherever they hid from the flood to restart a human strain from. But perhaps the Next Level preserved some part of the planet and some other of the humans in some other area and didn’t have it recorded as they were essentially interested in having Moses document the strain the Next Level started.

Thus, these who were among the FIRST graduates are awarded with a new physical body that as I’ve said I suspect is a student model Next Level vehicle and then they are told to wait, rest and/or remain for a time while others might be killed which is further shown with the same reference to this time frame when some must “persevere and sustain their steadfastness in the faith and keeping the commandments from TI and DO and “die in the Lord.” I say “may” because the Greek subjunctive mood is indicated in Rev 6:11 which speaks of it as a possibility not a given:

Rev 14:12 Here is the patience ((5281 hupomone= steadfastness, constancy, endurance, sustaining, perseverance, not swerved from one’s deliberate purpose and his loyalty to faith and piety by even the greatest trials and sufferings)) of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

I included this verse in this section because of the call for the saints to be steadfast and show endurance (patience).

Rev 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die ((0599 apothnesko= to separate by dying naturally or violently as being slain)) in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

Their rest is from the overcoming process and/or trouble of being hated by the establishment religionists out to shut the truth from coming out as it could influence their followers to see how they have been among the deceived. It’s the same reason Jesus was hated and murdered.

– The fellowservants would be those who have given themselves fully to be instruments for TI and DO – standing for them and accepting the expected consequences that they will lose their vehicles life in that service which could happen in the same way as those in the FIRST fruit, laying down giving their lives or by another’s hand or even from natural causes is possible but what’s important is that they meet that end of their vehicle having given their lives to TI and DO’s service.

– The Brethren indicates the kinship with those who are the fellow servants. I believe these are those who TI and DO would have said were on the same “genetic strain” as those who were giving their lives to TI and DO’s service. Some of these may or may not serve as instruments or “give their lives” at this time.

The word “should” used the second time in this Rev 6 verse doesn’t show up in the translation options. The Next Level is not about “should,” that is unless the student chooses to make becoming a Next Level member their own choice of what they should, think, say and do to make the grade provided to them. Everything is optional though in the context of what we choose. If we choose to become the “wife” of our Older Member, then what goes with that is abiding by all that Older Member’s instructions, behaviors and ways to please him. For instance Jesus had the option to not lay down his life as he did by voluntarily turning himself into those he knew wanted to kill him. As the account suggests, he sought from his “Father in heaven” to see if that was his task and/or to verify the timing and he knew that it was. The time recorded as his Transfiguration put some physical proves to his taking that irreversible choice. Perhaps the records aren’t clear on some of that. It doesn’t matter. He arrived at knowing his giving his life was part of his task he agreed to before he came. It’s possible some of these depicted here knew they would be giving their lives as well to fulfill/complete their task. I do anticipate that challenge to come that I hope I won’t run away from when the handwriting is on the wall that it’s time to either let it happen or even stimulate as Jesus did if there are some who do wish some of us out of their way, so we can’t influence others to see the same truth about TI and DO. Or perhaps as I draw closer to that time I will know that it’s right for me to instigate a self-exit as my classmates did. No options are closed to us in how much we give and when, though how we live day to day is although also an option, if we choose a direction against our Older Members then we enter into choosing a different door entirely.

However, it appears some will be giving their lives at a future time from when this Fifth Seal is opened while others by then may have already given their lives. This “little season” may be the 1000 years as I believe Do indicated a “season” is about 2000 years. This idea of a “little season” may therefore refer to when the  Luciferians are once again locked up for 1000 years:

Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
Rev 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

This makes some sense in timing as the next verse talks about those who had been “beheaded” for witness of Jesus before then as described about some in Rev 13:

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

I believe the THRONES in this context are all those who graduated as it says “judgment was given unto them” and we know that the Father (TI) and Son (Lamb-Jesus) then Do already were on the Throne and already had the authority to cast “judgment” but it was the returning saints/angels who would return and Judge the twelve tribes of Israel – separating the sheep from the goats, so to speak:

Luk 22:28 Ye are they which have continued with me in my temptations.
Luk 22:29 And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;
Luk 22:30 That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

It also may be that these “white robes” are not necessarily provided yet but that it’s being shown and stated that they will be “granted, made, furnished” which then makes more sense to go with their having to wait for the others to also qualify which can all be seen as their being ready to be married in the Next Level way, as depicted in:

Rev 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
Rev 19:8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen ((1039 bussinos from bussos 1040, from unused root 948 buwts (meaning to bleach, be white); made of linen (neuter a linen cloth)= fine (white) linen)), clean ((2513 katharos= +pure)) and white ((2986 lampros from lampas= radiant, by analogy, limpid, as a figure in appearance: bright, clear, gay, goodly)): for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

So I couldn’t help but notice some of the words as alternate translation options like making of linen was a bleaching process that makes that vehicle white and is to “neuter a linen cloth,” taking away it’s gender and sexual identity which TI and DO taught was part of the overcoming of our humanness because in the Next Level their vehicles have neither sexuality or gender which is why one has to program the mind to abort any hint of those behaviors and ways BEFORE being granted a Next Level vehicle and abode on a Next Level crew. It’s not morality. It’s simply about having a Mind that is compatible with one’s new vehicle. To have a mind that still has a program to want sexuality and reproduction and any characteristics related to gender, would, if it were allowed, which it’s not, TI and DO said would cause one’s new vehicle to “abort” that Mind. Plus to neuter can also be equated to how Jesus spoke about the option of “making oneself a eunuch for the Kingdom of Heaven’s sake,” which would be like neutering oneself as some of the Essenes practiced for the Kingdom of God:

Mat 19:12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother’s womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

Plus the idea that one is “bleaching” oneself is interesting in light of how in Rev 6:8 “green” is related in it’s root to the Greek chloros seemingly kin to “chlorine” which is a green element that whitens by purging out impurities (bacteria) to make one’s eye single, clear, pure minded – only containing one’s Older Members Holy (pure) Mind/Spirit (words, understandings, behaviors and ways).

In other words a student as the “bride” who wants to show his devotion of his heart/mind, Soul and strength only for his bridegroom could as an option even involve the elimination of a body part one can live without. In the virgin parable the virgins were also “trimming” their lamps. Well, Jesus said the “eye” is the lamp of the body. If you eye is single minded then your whole body is filled with light. So to trim one’s lamp would be to “make ready” their eye which is done with the Mind, illustrated by Jesus as rather than going flunking out of the classroom and staying flunked out even extreme measures would not be out of the question illustrated by choosing to become a eunuch or “plucking one eye out.” And making one’s lamp ready by keeping it trimmed can mean trimming out any images or thoughts or desires away from one’s vision and imagination to remain pure of heart and mind, the requirement from the “groom” to make one’s eye single minded.

Here Jesus illustrates that even the content of one’s thoughts become grounds for having committed adultery, and major offense in Moses law:

Mat 5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
Mat 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Then in the same vein of how seriously one can be about seeking to become a member of the Next Level:

Mat 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Mat 5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

Some Christian writers consider this as speaking about MEMBERS of a congregation, but I never heard or read that an “eye” was a way to illustrate a member of the congregation. A right hand could be stretched out in that way because of the Genesis writings regarding the order of blessings received from one’s human father to their offspring to where the first born received the blessing with the father’s right hand and the rest of the sons a blessing with their left hand.

Most interpreters treat these verses purely as a figure as it seems to them an extreme to treat it literally, but given making oneself into a eunuch requires elimination of one’s testicles that was not out of the question according to the practice of some Essenes I read about in the book “Essene Christian Faith” that Do provided us to read. In the book some chose to remove their testicles by various means – tying them off like was done to animals to neuter some. The book said, some attempted to crush their testicles with a rock which I seem to recall Do cringing to hear but nor did he say anything further about that during a meeting in which this book was discussed. The Essenes, by the way were a Jewish sect that existed before Jesus came public. I’ve read somewhere that they were more geared to the teachings of Enoch than to Moses and that they were seen as a fanatical offshoot sect. However, some think that Jesus was an Essene before he had fully awakened to his task after his desert experience and subsequent meet up with John the Baptist. It does make me wonder if this was Jesus “other fold” he said he was going to tend to after he left Jerusalem when he ascended into the spacecraft that was inside the cloud with his changed over physical body.

During this time we were examining this book, a part of re-exploring Christiandom, anticipating having more to do publically around the idea we “had to be who we were” as the return of Jesus and his disciples, Do became aware of a man who had cut off his penis to thwart his sexual desire for the Kingdom of Heaven’s sake, who also seemed to have certain perspectives beyond rote Christian ideology. Do was fond of this man and had some contact him with our information, though I don’t know what became of that. He wasn’t the only Christian based teacher we encountered who said things recognized as aligned with what TI and DO knew. TI and DO explained that when Members of the Next Level are in close Earth vicinity/atmosphere and incarnate, including Older, Younger and Student Members their thoughts and vibration became available to anyone who sought in their own way to raise their vibrations by changing certain thinking, behaviors and ways. Their presence even spawns advancements of all kinds and some humans are actually a part of the “strain” of those who are coming to graduation into the Next Level.

TI and DO had their classroom crew for a short time, project thoughts of positive growth to humans. It was an individual experiment to try to foster positive changes in the world. TI and DO felt that the awareness of the negative affects of smoking tobacco and the campaign to reduce the usage was one such change along with the the peace movements and the various rights movements and health consciousness that had come about, largely starting in the mid 1800’s in the U.S., so this man’s devotion seemed to be another example of someone taking to heart the drive to not let his body’s desires drive his behavior.

Of course there have always been individuals who remained outside the mainstream Christians who were considered to be fanatics. I remember when the U.S. was going to attack Afganistan and Iraq to go after those  some thought were behind the World Trade Center attacks and I wrote about war as not a way Jesus taught and a teacher I knew who had worked all her life in a Catholic University wrote to me saying perhaps a little sarcastically, “I’m no pacifist.” I read that as if that view was fanatical. It just shows that when the truth becomes so diluted and distorted, as it has, then those that attempt to live more truthfully to what Jesus taught are looked down on as extremists. The only legitimate way to serve God according to many is to go to some seminary, and graduate with a degree to authorize you. Then you can be assigned a congregation and set up in that career and can write books and get easily published and be called upon as an authority when the media wants a story. This shows how the Luciferians have spread their thinking, behaviors and ways that at best in a few ways mimic Next Level behaviors and ways.

For example, the behavior and ways of acting respectful and peaceably towards others, even if they insist on being one’s enemy – and fostering changes around us by “walking the talk,” so to speak. Another way some mimic the Next Level is by teaching how their thoughts can be projected and can influence others, which is very apparent in Hindu and Buddhist monk practice and we can see how that has spread to Europe and at least North America, even including identifying ourselves as “Gods” because of saying “everything is God” thus as a part of everything we are a part of God. I would call those who move into that thinking Overripened, though of course I can’t judge anyone in particular. They also no longer think of God as an Above Human Being or Superior to human Living Being. Instead they say the “All” is a consciousness, even the Christ consciousness where “god” and “Christ” become ideas as opposed to descriptions of literal Living Beings and their process of overcoming the human condition (Christing) by giving all our allegiance to those Living Beings.

However the Next Level Older Member representatives use the Luciferian presence as it provides a testing criteria that some if they press to see the light as a seed pushing out of the earth towards the son, they will draw the assistance of the Next Level to help them through to even becoming a “tree” in the Next Level that then provides the habitat for others to come up through.

It was years before anyone of Do’s students chose to be castrated that Do indicated taking unusual measures to control our vehicles. For instance he subtly suggested to anyone who couldn’t stop their vehicle from touching their “plumbing” during “down time” (sleep) that they could tie their hands to the bedpost at night.

Mind you, I’m not aware that he ever instructed anyone to do such a thing and it would have been completely off the mark to impose such an action upon another. It would only work if a person wanted to take such an action on the strength of their own determination to conquer their human vehicle’s programming. Actually later I learned I had that problem to some degree. I mean, we always had the procedure when we slept to program our own vehicle, by our thoughts, to keep our hands above our waist during sleep time. Part of our programming at night was to issue those instructions to our vehicle before dozing off that would even include the program to awaken should we begin to break these instructions. It worked as I would at times awaken knowing my hands were below my waist and also would awaken if I had rolled over onto my stomach, another instruction to avoid as such can stimulate the vehicle’s sexuality.


I believe it was late 1987, about two years after TI left her vehicle, Do called a meeting and talked about how he had had a “nocturnal emission.” Males always had a procedure to treat nocturnal emissions, that we did nothing to stimulate, as a relief value, not to feel guilty about, but TI and DO gave us a procedure when we had that experience, which was; to get out of bed and go to the “bath chamber” to clean up. There was even a stack of washcloths in each bath chamber just for males to use for this purpose. And there was a sign out of the washcloths. As it turned out when my vehicle would have a nocturnal emission I was embarrassed so would go to the bath chamber to clean up and use a cloth but sometimes I didn’t sign it out and other times I didn’t use a washcloth. Those sign-outs were sent to TI and DO. So I was actually “breaking procedure” to not use or sign out a washcloth. I was being deceitful and little did I know that it would catch up with me. I knew it was not right but I ignored doing the right thing.

In this same meeting Do explained that he had instructed Lvvody to gather the needed tools to perform the orchectomy procedure on him. The Next day Do held a meeting for males only and he went through the orchectomy procedure in detail. At that time Lvvody had what we called an “out of craft task,” which meant a job in the world, outside our “spacecraft” like environment. She worked as a nurse for a doctor that performed orchectomies – the removal of testicles due to testicular cancer, so she knew the routine and the needed tools and supplies to perform the operation. He went through this detail to familiarize the procedure. He said he had no instruction to offer the option to others. He just had the instruction to explain it. He wasn’t sure he was going ahead with it either. As with all meetings if students had questions not answered or had more personal things to express to Do, they would write a note. I don’t remember if I wrote a note but I suspect I did, expressing that I would like to be considered for the operation. This is where my head was though looking back over all the events that ensued I can see that I was coming from a kind of forced position, though that’s hard to really qualify as the task to take over our vehicle certainly was forced upon the vehicle.

A few days later Do held a small meeting at his “craft” where Lvvody and Jnnody resided with him. By the way, Do’s vehicle was not attracted to female vehicles, so having his eldest students taking female vehicles seems to be the way he and TI planned the mission so he could protect his vibration. A Next Level member occupying a human vehicle never assumes they can’t fall so they take all the precautions which whether actually needed or not become an example to the students. Older Members of the Next Level are even willing to make what could be seen as a mistake that then becomes an opportunity to demonstrate how to recover and take advantage of the mistake “missing the mark” said as “sin.” I was among those invited. Going to Do’s quarters was always a special feeling event.

Do explained that he had examined whether the students with female vehicles could also have the option of the equivalent to a castration, but he felt it was the male vehicle that was designed in such a way that the procedure could easily be accomplished whereas for a female it has more potential for complications. The students who were called to this meeting seemed to be those who were in the group called “Sat 3.” I think this included, Lggody, Jwnody, Chkody, Srrody, Hvvody, Snnody, Andody, Pmmody and perhaps Jmmody and Dncody in addition to Lvvody and Jnnody and myself Swyody. (Mrcody and Srfody who had been long term members of Sat 3, from before I was added a few years before, were not there if I recall. Nor was Rthody who also had been a Sat 3 Member. Sat 3 stood for “satellite 3.” That terminology started while TI was still incarnate and I think it was when we had three crafts, one for TI and DO and helpers (Lvvody/Jnnody at that time), one for the Sat 3 crew and some others and the third for the rest of the students. Our numbers were in the 30’s at that time.

Do then wanted to hear from the males in that little group, to see if anyone had any reservations of having such a procedure should Do get instructions to permit it. I don’t think Do went person to person for an answer but however it happened as it turned out Hvvody said he did have a reservation. This was a traumatic point that Hvvody arrived at and I can recall, while later being assigned to be his partner seeing that he had been crying, I suspect about considering leaving the classroom. I don’t know as he didn’t confide in me. We really didn’t have a procedure to confide in one another, especially on the subject of sensuality – sexuality. We even avoided the use of the word “sex” as Do felt like it could trigger the vehicle’s programming that could start a “tape” in the head that would be hard to stop. We had lots of things that would stimulate such tapes but we didn’t say or do things that would test us and/or potentially test another. The tests were provided by the Next Level not us, though came through the incarnate Older Members, even though they didn’t always understand who would be tested until they would see the responses to things they instigated. I knew this was a test and I intended to pass it even if it meant going through the procedure. A week or two later Hvvody decided to leave the classroom and never returned.

Further classroom talk about castration ceased. Soon after a classmate would leave we often got instructions to move. We were in Colorado at that time with a craft in Littleton and another up Boulder Canyon where Do was actually resided with Sat 3 members. 1987 was certainly a pivotal year that extended into 1988.

It was the year:

– Do sent us on our second visit of the vehicle’s families to try to help relieve them of anxiety but as it turned out it seemed to be more about putting some students to the test of whether they wanted to stay in the classroom or not. I say that because Rthody decided to leave the class because of that visit with his vehicle’s brother and family. Also, on this trip I actually traveled with Srfody as she went to the same town because before we both joined with TI and DO, she and I had been living together in Oregon, having moved out to the west together having begun our relationship in our same home town on Long Island in New York, having met after we both had graduated from different high schools. During this trip I did deal with a vibe of resuming a human relationship with Srfody while on the airplane sitting next to her and in the car at an ice cream shop where we had frequented when we became a couple, but I had no desire at all to do so, so just ignored that influence. However that’s part of what happens when we return to a previous environment where we have memories and especially with someone we had memories being with, we can be draw back to our past that can threaten our forward motion towards graduation. When I left in 1994 and moved back to New York in 1995 I was drawn back in many ways.

re: that trip, I, with Srfody and Ollody, with Jwnody also present, visited with Jwnody’s vehicle’s mother on Long Island. Ollody visited his vehicle’s family in Connecticut and all three visited with my vehicle’s mom, dad, brother and sister at their house. Do suggested we give a little talisman to anyone we felt to. I gave a little inexpensive gemstone to my brother and to my sister. Do felt the families meeting other students would show what kind of people we had made into our new family. My vehicle’s dad told me to thank TI and DO for the visit that was mostly on behalf of my vehicle’s mother as he knew I was doing what I wanted to do but she thought I was brainwashed into the cult, which of course I was, except I had to be the one that washed my own brain of human behavior and ways. On that score it was interesting that I recall one time Do saying something to the affect of how if he could force us to make the needed changes to become a member of the Next Level he would, but it wouldn’t work as then we’d be a useless robot for the Next Level and if they wanted robots they would just build them. While I’m on that topic, he and TI once said the Next Level does use robots for some tasks that would damage their physical vehicle to do.

– Do asked the class if they would follow him even if he wasn’t from the Next Level.

– Do said we needed to “be who we are” as the return of the One who was Jesus and the ones who were Jesus’ disciples.

– Long term students, Sat 3 members, Mrcody and Srfody were instructed to leave the classroom until such time that they decided to live by the lesson step of “I could be wrong,” which I’ve explained before was helping us break down our human self confidence by applying to replace that human mind with Next Level Mind – which is the way one “washes their robe” – cleans out the humanness from their programming of self confidence or confidence in what humans teach. Again if we didn’t apply it, it didn’t work. TI and DO gave us the tools but didn’t have any real enforcement of our use of them, as even with this step of prefacing judgments we might make with “I could be wrong but…” or something like that, if we just went through the motions and didn’t grow to recognize how our confidence can often be misplaced, then we would not be getting rid of that human characteristic of self confidence and replacing it with confidence only in our Older Members. This is almost impossible for most to accept if they aren’t given the help to see it and if someone wants that help to see it all they have to do is ask the Next Level for that help, so it’s not really an elitist club except to someone who doesn’t want to belong and then can easily even resent their own self-exclusion.

– We started a video production company where Lggody and Dncody and Jwnody and perhaps Cddody were primaries and went to UFO Conferences in Arkansas and California to film leading researchers like Linda Molten Howe, etc. We never did do anything with the footage.

– We began to study the UFO phenomena, primarily starting with the book, “UFO Crash at Aztec” about the 1948 crash near Aztec, New Mexico that had up to 18 bodies included that showed autopsy reports that revealed some of the vehicles had no reproductive systems or human organ systems, some had atrophied reproductive systems.

– We had begun to consider castration resulting in Hvvody’s leaving the classroom.

– We started the mucousless diet system tailored after the work of Dr. John Christopher. It was basically what today would be called a vegan diet.

– We published and were distributing what was named, “The Transfiguration Diet” book Do, Lvvody and Jnnody primarily wrote. It was listed as written by “Littlegreen Inc. Think Tank” and Dncody (who eventually left the class well before I did and whose vehicle has since died) did cartoon like illustrations where a figure named Dr. Littlegreen, who looked like a member of the Next Level taught the books content.

By 1988 we moved to a ranch house in the country north of Dallas, Texas where Do wrote “88 Update – The UFO Two and Crew” to set the record straight on the truth on all he and TI experienced from meeting and waking up to date. We bought a little binding machine and made copies and sent them to people like Walt Andrews the founder of MUFON and Whitley Strieber and a list of other organizations and individuals who might be receptive, though none were.

By the start of 1989 we moved to the desert north of Albuquerque and Do and helpers rented a house in nearby Sante Fe. I got a job as a programmer in Albuquerque and continued to express to Do in notes that if he got instruction to allow some to proceed with castration I wanted to have the procedure done. One day while I was at my out-of-craft task, I had this thought that Srrody was going to be permitted to be castrated. Srrody was known as quite the zealot. Some classmates even criticized him for his eagerness to please TI and DO. His vehicle was Irish and a red head and he was quick as a fox in everything he did. I was often his partner and put him through a lot of tests because I was anything but quick as a fox. I can’t say I was critical of him but I knew he was hard to keep up with though it wasn’t the program to keep up with fellow students, though of course if a student showed strong Next Level characteristics like being “johnny on the spot” as Srrody always was, even running to perform service to TI and DO in the campground classroom times which TI and DO appreciated, while also knowing Srrody’s quickness needed restraint as he would sometimes finish TI and DO’s sentences – jumping ahead and making assumptions, though he didn’t necessarily trust those assumptions.

But when I had this thought that was sort of competitive with Srrody, I decided I would show Do how badly I wanted to be castrated, so I called the craft and asked to talk to Do who at that time lived in the same craft with half the group. This was very unusual to do. We didn’t really have the option to just barge in on Do. We had lessons that if they were walking around the craft, we wouldn’t stop them to ask them a question, though at the same time TI and DO weren’t authoritarian at all. If someone did interrupt them, they would pay attention to what the student had on their mind rather than tell them they were breaking instruction. They always had a positivity. Even if one asked them a question during a meeting that was inappropriate in some way like lets say pointing the finger at someone else, they wouldn’t correct that student on the spot. They would listen and try to respond to what the student was expressing. Later there might appear a procedure in the book that might show how the student could have expressed themselves more like a member of the Next Level would.

So the craft called me back and Do got on the phone with me and asked what was up. I told him I wanted to leave the classroom. He asked why. I said I didn’t want to say. He asked what I was going to do, where I was going to and I said, “Mexico.” Then he asked, “does this have anything to do with what we have been talking about” (as I had written many notes about) and I said, “yes, but I didn’t want to say that as I wanted to make my own choice to find a way to proceed with getting castrated.” He said that I should wait because he wanted to talk to me before I left. He sent a car to pick me up from my task location. I got to the craft and went to his quarters and he told me that just this morning two students also told him they wanted to proceed with castration – Srrody and Prkody and he still didn’t have instructions but wanted to take what we three were asking for to TI (outside her vehicle) to see what TI says in response.

There was no talk of it for as much as a year after that day. We even moved several times, back to California and did some fasting in the desert thinking it might be the way we exit our vehicles or get picked up. We had sold everything and outfitted ourselves with trailers and tents and were living in the Arizona desert near Phoenix and then Yuma and then to Las Vegas and back to California where we leased warehouses that we drove the trailers into and lived in them inside the warehouse as if we were living outdoors. Do and helpers had a smaller warehouse in San Clemente while the rest of the class had a warehouse in Laguna Hills.

It was about 1991 when one day Srrody and I who were partners then were called by Lvvody/Jnnody to come to Do’s craft. By the way, Prkody had left the class by then. I don’t really know why. We got to the warehouse and Do said if we still wanted to proceed with the operation we could as they had set up an office in the warehouse as a sterile room and everything needed. I was genuinely ready to proceed as was Srrody. Mind you Srrody and I never talked about this as it wasn’t the way to have that kind of relationship with fellow students. Our relationship was always to be business only though of course if a partner wanted to talk to their partner about something looking for help they certainly could. There just was nothing to talk about on this subject as we didn’t just shoot the breeze with one another. There was no chit chat and certainly no gossip about others.

Lvvody was to perform the operation and Jnnody was her assistant. At one point Do asked me if I had any reservations of going ahead with it, to which I replied…”my vehicle isn’t looking forward to it but I’m overriding my vehicle.” He didn’t respond but seemed to relate to that response. I think he was staying sensitive to any indication from TI to halt the operation. At one point well before this time, Do was hesitant to allow students to go through with the operation because he didn’t want to reduce the growth a student needed that comes from keeping the sensuality “booger” (adversary we were each assigned – as our “satan” – one of the fallen angels) at bay.

So Do asked us who was going to go first. It didn’t matter to me. I knew Srrody wanted to go first, so as was our way when a decision needed to be made and it didn’t matter one way or the other, Jnnody pulled out a coin and said flip on it, which we did and Srrody won the toss so he got to decide who went first and he decided to go first.

Lvvody and Jnnody made a sign they put up on the door to the surgical room that said “Mexico” on it. They did this so if there was any problem we could honestly say we went to Mexico to have the procedure done. Do and Lvvody and Jnnody had done quite a bit of research of this procedure and tried to line up a doctor to do it but no doctors would do it unless it was called for because of disease. Do said that it was seen as more taboo than having a sex change operation or vasectomy. Anything to eliminate sexuality was a sign of psychological disturbance. Do was also concerned that he could be targeted and even prosecuted, say if a student was castrated under his watch, so to speak and they left the class and then claimed they were forced into it – it could be grounds to arrest Do and that would disrupt the classroom to deal with.

So with Do and I standing around the operating table on one side and Lvvody and Jnnody on the other side and Srrody on the table, Lvvody shaved Srrody’s sack area, gave him some local anesthetic by injections into and around the sack and then made an incision and I got weak in the knees and almost passed out and Do helped stabilize me but I recovered and Do then said, “Well if this doesn’t bond us, nothing will.” Once the sack was cut open Lvvody had a tool that cauterized the little blood vessels so there wasn’t much blood. She made a couple snips and took the two testicles out and then sewed up the sack leaving a little breather tube sticking out.

It wasn’t long as he was recovering that the sack got much bigger and Srrody was in pain so Lvvody tried to see why the breather tube didn’t seem to be working. Srrody’s sack was as big as a baseball. Do was distraught and told us to take him to the police because he had allowed this to happen. Jnnody and Lvvody and I knew that wasn’t going to happen and we said we’d take Srrody to a hospital. Do asked that we contact Lggody and Jwnody to help us decide what to do and he went to his quarters.

Lggody and Jwnody arrived and we briefed them and decided to try to contact a priest to ask advise, thinking perhaps they had some experience with castration. I spoke to a priest and he had nothing to offer us. I was intentionally vague not trusting he wouldn’t call the police. We went to a motel near Escondido to make the phone call so it couldn’t be traced to where Do was.

We took Srrody to a hospital and I went in with him while Lvvody and Jnnody stayed in the car. I told the people at the hospital that this patient was a friend of mine who told me he went to Mexico to have at operation because he was a monk that didn’t want to have do deal with sexual impulses anymore. So he was admitted and went into the emergency room and I reported to Lvvody and Jnnody in the parking lot. The operation to fix Srrody was quick and easy for them to handle but he needed to spend the night so I went back to the motel and came back the next day and Srrody was happy as could be and the nurses loved him and Lvvody and Jnnody came into the hospital to see him and we all left together and returned to Do’s quarters. Do told us we couldn’t go through with Swyody’s operation until he had a chance to examine what happened with TI. Do instructed us to not say anything to the rest of the classroom though in the next few weeks some knew something was different about Srrody. He was unusually giddy. He healed fine and I was disappointed that I didn’t have the procedure.

However, looking back, considering that a big part of my fall involved my giving into sexuality with myself – masturbation, it seemed to me that TI had a hand in keeping me from being castrated as I had not yet grown to have enough control over my vehicle. As it turned out, we moved to Arizona and we were considering going public again in a way more related to the biblical terms of talking about TI and DO. Do had said we could try to talk directly to TI who was outside her vehicle and let him know if we feel she responded. So I tried and felt a response and told Do about it and he said, “sounds like something TI might say.” Then one day, I took a break from my programming job and took a walk and I screamed to TI that I wanted a harder task – a task like Do has. I was insistent on faster growth and looking back can see that I had become arrogant in my “overseer” status in the classroom, though I had just recovered from a lesson step where Do told me I was competing with him because of the way I tried to offer suggestions on how to handle certain directions we were headed in when he gathered the overseers together to brainstorm. There was a way to brainstorm that would demonstrate whose mind we sought to look to and I was looking to my mind as if I was Do’s equal. This is hard to see for what it is. I was in the classroom to overcome my human condition and had seemed to be successful at it to a point that I became over confident in my own capacity to be like a partner for Do. In other words, often what Do did put some students to the test. After all I had not yet graduated so constant testing was in store.

So TI let me have what I wanted. I wanted a task more like Do had, so she sent me a discarnate influence that was the kind of booger Do had to learn to keep at bay and all of a sudden while in my office programming I felt like I was plugged into a socket. So I’d get up and take another walk and wham I had sexual images flooding into my head that came with the fire of desire in a way I had never experienced before. I hadn’t seen any images or video’s – there was no internet at that time nor did I have access to computer “bulletin boards” and yet in my imagination I was out of control and didn’t even have the desire to stop it or put into motion what I knew were techniques to thwart this attack. I didn’t even touch myself and I had an orgasm and then another minutes later and it wasn’t going away. I was plagued in a way I had never experienced. This continued every day at the office for the next few days and I hid it even though hiding it was another breakage of procedure. If we slipped in any way, we would expose the slippage to our partner before the end of the day. In this case sensuality was not something to expose to one’s partner as even sharing it can then expose the partner to the sensual vibration so in this case I should have sent off a note to Do telling him how I slipped. But I didn’t do that so now I was also deceitful.

After a few more days of this, Do saw something was on my mind. It was clear something was wrong so he asked me what was going on and I spilled it out and he asked me what I wanted to do and I said I have to call a “help wanted meeting” to expose my slippage to the classroom and ask for help. We had the meeting and yet nothing changed for me. I didn’t even have the desire to change. It was like I was now a different person. Even though Do had written in the Major Offense list that deceit and giving into sensuality were each grounds to be dismissed from the classroom, since my actions only involved myself so didn’t threaten anyone else’s continuance in the classroom and felt like I still had a lot to offer the Next Level he wasn’t going to require that I leave. He said to my classmates that sometimes the hardest lesson is to recover from failure.

I wasn’t rising above this challenge and continued to hide my infractions even after the 1994 nine months of meetings around the country where I was the primary speaker to the press and at meetings the group I was an overseer of put on. When we were in Massachusetts I slipped again in a motel we were staying in where I turned on MTV and saw some women dancing and I was so immediately inflamed and out of control that I had to confess it to my partner Evnody who was shocked.

I called Do and told him I thought I needed to leave the class. I figured I was close to where my vehicle’s family was so I could just go there. Do asked me to wait until we all returned to California. He took me off overseer task. Once back in California at one point Do asked me to resume an overseer task with Mllody. I told him I couldn’t take the task, the first time I declined to look to Do and he asked then what I wanted to do. I said, “I guess I have to leave” and he said, “you want to get more objective.” He then put Nrrody on the phone and told her to tell the others not to try to talk me out of leaving because he knew what he was doing.

The next day I was taken to the airport to go where I wanted to go and was given $600.00. Do had asked me where I wanted to go and I said I wanted to take a bicycle and just ride it east from southern California. (Again it shows how I had become under the control of my booger (Luciferian discarnate TI and DO said each of us had assigned to us, to help us build our strength), still vibrating on some spiritual idea of martyrdom. He suggested I go stay with Mrcody and Srfody who had been out of the class since 1987 but who Do and his helpers had kept contact with, who were in the Phoenix area at the time so that’s where I went and quickly got a job as a cook and about two weeks later moved out of Mrcody and Srfody’s quarters and rented a room and rode a bicycle for a 10 mile round trip to work and back every day.

I left the class in September of 1994 almost 19 years to the day of when I joined. I later learned that it was about a year later that Do decided to allow students to seek out castration but he required them to get it done by a professional, which was at that time more available. They had to move out of the classroom temporarily and at least one (Alxody) moved near to a Colorado doctor where they had to get a job to pay for the procedure themselves so it was clearly of their own free will to do, not being under the daily influence of the classroom and not funded by the classroom. Of course those who insist they were under the spell will always exist regardless of the truth. It’s the only way some can explain intelligent people choosing such an option. Do ended up doing the same thing, following his own guidelines by taking a residence somewhere in Arizona or New Mexico by himself and as I understand it got a job as a janitor for a short time to have the procedure done on his vehicle. I understand that in total eight individuals had their testicles removed of the 19 male vehicles who were among the 39 who laid down their human vehicles to death in 1997. Five of them were named, Srrody, Alxody, Vrnody, Trsody and Do.

Incidentally, I am aware that various Christian writers refer to Lev 22:24 saying it prohibits castrating men or animals. Yet when one researches the verse it says nothing of the sort about men and even if it did says nothing about men castrating themselves, only about a man castrating another man which is consistent with Next Level ways for each of us not to interfere with another’s choices. The only references I found where there was a prohibition of men who have “injured stones” from serving in the priestly duties also prohibiting men with other ailments, sores or blemishes from priestly duties.

Verse Lev 22:24, at most indicates certain damaged animals shall not be acceptable for an offering to the Lord. I can’t speak to exactly why that was the procedure to follow but I can imagine it could have had something to do with people not giving their least desirable animals as an offering to the Lord. The Next Level was preparing that group for the eventual requirement of giving their all to the Lord. I don’t know why those with priestly duties, the Leviticans had that qualification. It didn’t have to make sense. They were also being groomed to get rid of “self” to give their will to the Lord, recognizing more reality of the Lord’s existence and program and support of Moses, so no matter what they were given to do or not do, if they abide by those instructions they, their souls were bonding and if they were not they were rebelling so would not become “fruit” for the Next Level – a new member to their Next Level family.

What is most telling about the degree of misinformation we are now subject to is in how a number of writers are including in their blogs, books a quote like this; ‘Leviticus 22:24 says “not to castrate the male of any species; neither a man, nor a domestic or wild beast, nor a fowl.” But when one actually searches over many Bible translations they get something more like this that says nothing about “man” and what body parts are damaged and assumes “cut” means castration. Perhaps this translation can be found somewhere but it’s quite a stretch to use as an example of the outlaw of a human castrating themselves, the equivalent would be to pay a doctor to do it:

Lev 22:24 Ye shall not offer unto the LORD that which is bruised, or crushed, or broken, or cut; neither shall ye make any offering thereof in your land.

So ends the Castration subject in the classroom but opens up a new application of the idea of “keeping oneself for one’s Older Member comparing the student body to virgins – refraining from giving themselves physically and/or mentally to anyone other than to their Older Member. Virginity by the way has become another distorted term to mean never having had sexual intercourse when in reality it has to do with ceasing all sexuality. At one point, we started a project that included writing up a booklet that was entitled, “Recovering Virginity for Chrysalis Sake.” We actually then sent that statement to our vehicle’s family, which was after we had those two visits and were calling them about once a year to let them know we were fine.

Related to the documentation of the subject of castration, it is so telling, how Jesus compares these coming to the supper with virgins in the parable of the 10 virgins where 5 had backup oil with them for their lamps that enabled them to SEE with while 5 did not and that the 5 who did not have the oil wanted some from the 5 who did have the oil but were told to go buy it for themselves. In other words they had to do the work for themselves of having the needed oil to watch for the return of the master. TI and DO talked about how when we keep giving away our life-force (via sexuality, literal giving away our “force” we are reducing our ability to “see more” of what’s real. They said that restraining our giving away of that force even adds to our “common sense” which is part of perceiving more and understanding more to be what is actually more real about our existence, etc.

Rev 14:4 These are they which were not defiled ((3435 moluno most likely from 3189= to pollute, stain, contaminate, kept themselves pure)) with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

Some will say that meant they were “not soiled by fornication or adultery” which is true for the Jesus time, where fornication was any act in mind or body that was giving into lust for another while married, and yet these are portrayed as getting married so having lust for anyone else would qualify as fornication illegal intercourse by the Lords rules and as Do said, “not becoming an adult” from a Next Level perspective that we are before that still children of God not adults of God.

Rev 19:9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

Being called to the marriage supper is hearing about TI and DO and the qualifications we must accept to attend the “marriage supper of the lamb” which is the marriage supper of our own sacrifice of our human life, by separating from it and then separating from our human vehicle however that takes place. All will separate in both ways but only a tiny few will separate voluntarily AND most all importantly FOR (working for (in service to) aka true worship of) the Kingdom of God/Heaven Next Level Older Members.

Rev 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship ((work for)) God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

Then even using the same wording as in Rev 19:11 John is depicted here as one of those being called to the marriage supper of the Lamb, again not necessarily specifically the Soul who took the vehicle that became named John while Jesus’ student, but whosoever is performing the task of speaking to others what was inspired by the Next Level, in this case from TI and DO, that depending on how fast they wish to progress to their own graduation, can give their ALL to separating from the world and asking to be putty in TI and DO’s hands, in their service, seeking to adopt all their behavior and ways and revealing to others their teachings to “stand” for Them until they exit their vehicle, however that happens by their own hand or by another.

It seems to be that these who enter into degrees of this task MAY lose their vehicle by someone else’s hand or by their own hand or by provoking the BEASTS (U.S. government) to assist in their exit, thus it’s said in Rev 6:11 that their service (fellowservant) MAY, for each of to whom it applies get them separated from the human kingdom by dying (killed=apokteino) while is also referred to as a “fellowservant, and of thy brethren.”

This then seems to indicate that the “marriage supper” is where one’s physical body is given to the Lord and that our thirst for our Older Member’s mind, behaviors and ways that is showed to us by his taking over of the flesh according to His Older Member (Father’s) instructions (overcoming he world again) that in so doing is “consuming his flesh” so that we are eating (living by his Holy (pure) Mind/spirit that comes from/through his body to us by his show of love for his students via his demonstration of that love for his Older Member), and then “drink his blood” by performing the task he gives us that will result in our blood being shed because of the loss of the vehicle’s life force by the hand of others as the first fruit experienced after they had shown their allegiance to the Father and Jesus and then for TI and DO by their own hand.

Mat 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

If they are sitting on thrones that means they have conquered their humanness by giving their lives in service to include overcoming their humanness, set into the future upon his return when he will sit on his throne, that he was birthed to by the woman in Rev 12, his Heavenly Father. Older Members are the only ones who can birth someone to the throne, where birth is the “spirit birth” Jesus said he was going to complete with them during his return in this new age. (Do called birth to the throne, qualifying to be on “TI’s Crew.”

Since most likely they can’t conquer without their Older Member’s presence and that presence must be incarnate as he was not a spirit that was returning, that is not in spiritual form as that was at least part of the point of exiting with his physical body, to show that he took his human body to change it into a Next Level body, proving to those disciples with new proves that he had new facilities – appearing and disappearing, hovering over the sea and many things they were apparently not given to write down as John said in his gospel there were too many things to write down.

The primary place we see in the Book of Revelations where there is an equivalency of the incarnate return of Representatives from the Kingdom of God in such a way that included talking to their students is in chapter 11 where Two Witnesses, who are described as Christs, prophesy, which is defined as being “inspired by God to speak to others” – being a witness, giving testimony and is even considered to be a type of martyrdom in the way what they say will not be met with approval from anyone except to whom it is given, the same as was the case for Jesus. It also seems evident that these TWO are said to be “witnesses” incarnate TO TESTIFY as that was the law given by Jehovah through Moses that Jesus also made reference to, IN ORDER TO BRING A JUDGMENT AGAINST SOMEONE – IT HAD TO BE TWO OR THREE WITNESSES TO THE OFFENSE, IN THIS CASE THE OFFENSE BEING OVERALL, IDOL WORSHIP OF FALSE GODS, according to Jesus, for instance making “wealth” one’s master in all it’s human forms as opposed to showing the Creators of the universe and all it’s life forms our allegiance by recognizing the same mind in TI and DO as has been brought all along as recorded in the Judaic/Christian/Islamic records and seeking to enact their will for us – standing up for TI and DO and maintaining that stand until we exit our human vehicle regardless of how that occurs.

Then it is quite clear that the Judgment Time is most applicable to the time AFTER these Two Witnesses have fulfilled their prophecy task that includes “spirit birthing” their FIRST fruit, the 4 Living Beings, 20 and 4 Elders have ascended back into their Next Level abodes/dwellings on spacecrafts. This graduation seems to be depicted by reference to that ascension, said as they “fell on their own faces” in Rev 11:16 and is also after the first “fall” of the new city Babylon, financial capital of the world in NYC, marked by the World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks of 9/11/2001 where Rev 11:18 then says it’s the “time of the dead that they should be judged” and rewards are given to the “servant prophets” (those who speak what they are inspired by the Two witnesses, TI and DO to speak).

In reference to this time, the “saints” are all these who give their lives believing in everything TI and DO said and did, that they represent the Kingdom of Living Beings who created everything and all the life forms and they take a stand for TI and DO and maintain that stand regardless of the consequences. Some will choose to go further to separate from their humanness by ceasing giving themselves in service to humanity and it’s mammalian procreation and sexuality and government loyalties.

Those who never hear about TI and DO are judged by a different criteria as Do indicated in the “third type” who would escape the recycling. All of these will show their allegiance to the Next Level, in big and small ways when they abide by the behavior and ways Jesus taught and don’t give their allegiance to the BEASTS (U.S. and E.U.) and don’t receive the mark on their head and/or hand or receive the number of the beast or work for the Beast’s “image” – various spiritual and/or religious illusions of godliness as provided by the many “false Prophets” and “false Christs (Christians),” that even might take the shape of holographic images like Fatima that impart information (speak).

Now since the Older Members, TI and DO are no longer incarnate, there is no one saying “follow me” to leave all behind for, though some can still feel that way and can leave all behind to become a transient active student for TI and DO and they reap their reward according to what they give in that service to Them. But if someone doesn’t feel ready to leave all behind they can still begin their bonding to TI and DO by simply talking to them and expressing they want their help to grow into more service. But they should realize that the object is to separate from all things human as one is starting a new family bond, not remaining bonded to fellow human vehicles or even kindred spirits/souls because our bond needs to be to our Older Members alone, though our fellow students then become our “classmates” and fellow crew-members and fellow-servants to the Next Level which is like having brothers and sisters.

There is time no longer to settle in to start church groups to study all TI and DO taught. Yes, it can be helpful in our service to learn all was can about what TI and DO and Crew said so we can be of service by telling others what they said, but it’s not meant to become a new religion that carries on for millennium. We seem to be in the “final hour” at this time and it seems only half of that hour (20 years from 2013) will pass before it’s “done” and calamities are such that there will be no more infrastructure or governments the world over as shown in the 7th Angels pouring out of vials and in the 6th seals opening that shows the 7th seal as a “half hour” rest period when it seems is meant as when the Next Level is no longer providing their information.

Rev 11:17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O LORD God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

Therefore, it’s the 24 elders that are returning to exercise this primary Judgment Time with the one who served as the Lamb, their Older Member who was last incarnate in the name Do, but who has another name in his Next Level position, who seems to return with his Next Level vehicle, perhaps the same one he converted into a Next Level vehicle while performing the task in the name of Jesus. I suggest his use of that vehicle that was named “Jesus” and converted into a Next Level vehicle, mostly because of the indication in Rev 19 that his “vesture (clothing, the vehicle he wraps around his Soul body) had been “dipped in blood” also said as “baptized in blood.” This is also potentially indicated:

Rev 14:14 And I looked, and behold a white ((+ light)) cloud, and upon ((1909 epi= + have charge of, among, with, in)) (the) cloud one sat ((task assignment/position)) like ((3664 homoios= from homou 3674= similar (in appearance or character), like, + manner)) unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

I would say the cloudy White Light would be the appearance of his spacecraft.

Saying here that the one who has “sat like the son of man,” “like” has to do with His, “appearance” and “character (manner),” that later TI and DO might have spoken of as their occupying alike physical Next Level vehicles (that human vehicles were tailored to appear like, as said in Genesis), and would have like “behavior and ways.”

Note he is depicted as “like the Son of Man”:

Rev 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks ((groups of believers – souls in stages of taking over human vehicles to learn their lessons through overcoming their human ways and replacing them with taught and exampled Next Level ways that are summed up as the “churches,” but not to be confused with today’s Christian churches that may or may not have potential students within their ranks)) one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

Jesus referred to himself as the “son of man” to his disciples and also said that’s who would be returning for the Judgment Time:

Mat 13:41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

Although this can apply to many “signs” of the Son of Man’s coming, it shows most relevance to this time:

Luk 17:24 For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.
Luk 21:27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

So saying this one is “like the son of man” can be saying this one depicted here is not the same physical vehicle that was named Jesus but he has a physical vehicle that is “like” that vehicle named Jesus.

All this points to the return of Do, but using the vehicle he “changed over” (glorified), TI and DO felt was completed at the time of the Transfiguration which is when he was also given instructions to exit and he knew he had “overcome the world” and began to show his disciples what was about to take place and how they would have to also drink his “cup of bloodshed” if they chose to continue in his footsteps to be ready to be “spirit birthed” upon his return.

So when prophecy says he will return in his “glory” or in the “glory of his Father” it is saying in his “changed over” Next Level body he converted from the human body he incarnated into – took over – the process of overcoming that human vehicles human mammalian characteristics, behaviors and ways. Jesus’ physical vehicle was specially prepared for what he needed to demonstrate about that changed over body. TI and DO weren’t here to repeat that part of the plan exactly as Jesus was given to demonstrate as it’s according to what their students need and the students that were with Jesus already had witnessed that overcoming process and it’s results. It was in their Soul memory so when they took over the human vehicles prepared for them to take over, as they followed with TI and DO and gave themselves to Them 100%, which took years for all to do, as some really weren’t ready for that kind of commitment so had to be filtered out of the group, though they could have still rose to the occasion then or later (as some of those did).

Note here “clouds of heaven” which would be the same as saying a “heavenly covering (cloud)” – “cloud of light” as that precedent was begun back in the Moses encampment when Jehovah would come and go via a cloud and a cloud of light would lead them all through the desert at night and during the day. The spacecrafts we see that space aliens have are primitive compared to Next Level craft, but they may be able to generate cloud cover or become invisible to humans. Also, Ancient of Days refers to the Father who can be translated equally to say He “comes present,” “comes near” another indicator the Father comes incarnate during this overall End Time.

Daniel 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near ((come)) before ((present)) him.

Daniel, Ezekiel and Adam were all referred to as “son of man” by the Next Level Older Members and Crew working with them. This title was not the same as a human being. This is a special designation and I believe Do once said that TI was a “man” and thus Adam having come from “God’s” (Elohim, Jehovah, Father, TI’s) birthing Him into membership in the Next Level made him “God’s Son” or “Man’s Son” – to His Older Member – the Younger Member of the Next Level He birthed into membership well before the current civilization.

I wondered if then the wording might follow suite with a human being considered a “hue of Man” or a “shade or shadow of Man” – made in “Man’s” (TI’s) likeness in humanoid “appearance,” as the first experiment of the current civilization to set up the opportunity for Adam to be tested.

Failing that test left him and his Soul body in the earth vicinity until such time that he succeeded to recover, which occurred when He took over the human vehicle named Enoch – 7th generation from Adam – which then gave him enough experience overcoming humanness under the continued influence of the Luciferian fallen angel space aliens, Lucifer being his primary adversary seeking to win him over to his camp, to “change over” his Enoch named vehicle back into a Next Level vehicle – a metamorphosis to a “glorified body” inside that human vehicle.

Having changed over his vehicle, he could return to his new Next Level station for his next task on his Older Member’s crew that would then continue the experiment to birth others (souls who hadn’t fallen but were like the Luciferians in having student model vehicles because of having succeeded in certain aspects of the classroom and thus needed equivalent tests.

So this same Older Member Soul came incarnate in the vehicle named Moses, then Elijah, possibly working with Daniel in the name of Michael the Archangel, then Jesus that was the start of his birth to the “throne” task that was completed after being incarnate with TI on the task of the Two Witnesses to get Him started.

He would be “born” to his new position on the throne by being the “midwife” for those souls who were conquering their humanness through He and TI’s direction and example.

This awarding of “white robes” to those who had given their lives in service to the Next Level Older Members, TI and DO, constitutes the FIRST Harvest that started with the graduation of TI and DO’s 38+4, depicted as the 4 Living Beings and 24 Elders to “adult membership” and the 14 to “student membership” summarized as the opening and conquering depicted in Rev 6:2, but that continues through the remaining seals. However it is not until the 4th through 6th seals that additional “active students” lose their human lives in service to TI and DO by starting their metamorphosis – seeking to adopt TI and DO’s instructed behaviors and ways and giving their lives STANDING for Them.

One Battle against Sawyer’s provision of his personal experience with Ti and Do and interpretations of Jesus prophecy in his book

February 27, 2017

The following includes comments left on my Blog and on the The Escondido Grapevine story “Heaven’s Gate survivor 20 years later”, in reference to the Inside Edition story that Sawyer was the prime interview for that was used:. The link to that article is below but I wanted to show the back and forth with two who are opposed to information provision except what they consider to be authorized and how they are participating in limiting the full truth being available as Ti and Do and Crew desired and evidenced in a number of places, some of which I provide the links to here. This is a rather unique perspecitve as Crlody was in the class for several months in 1994 where I met him, though briefly but left and told me he had trouble accepting DO, if I recall accurately. I don’t find fault with that as all of us dropouts did so because of things we haven’t yet overcome. Glaive entered the picture that I knew about for the first time several years ago from my youtube site: 3spm. He was in Europe somewhere and said as a young teenager when Do and Crew laid down their lives he had the thought that these were the “saints”, that is if I correctly recall what he told me. I actually invited him to come to the states and I would help him and he told me he thought that would be a good learning opportunity for him as I was writing my book and even hoped he could help me edit it. Then we got into some tangles over the subject of hybrids and Muslims and vehicular coloration as white and the links to some relationship to the Luciferian space aliens. For one or more of those conversations, he began to call me names so we ceased talking until he came on my blog several years ago to mount a campaign against my book development and perhaps other things I was saying in my blog that was kin to what Crlody (aka Carlan) was saying against the same. I hope both of them will weigh in on this blog if I’ve said anything inaccurate as I have also said continuously about anything I say about Ti and Do or Jesus that seems inaccurate. Carlan’s accusations past did help me to examine whether I was too focused on what I thought and not as focused on what Ti and Do and Crew said. I wanted to start to document this back and forth so others could see what they will also have to deal with should they come in the direction of trying to work for Ti and Do by sharing their information. At this time, I believe that could include sharing the understandings of what Jesus said and the Book of Revelations that Ti and Do referred to and wrote about “all being fulfilled” and that included AFTER they performed their task that I began to see in the Revelation. My saying that and talking about the many dreams I had with Ti and with Do that I interpreted as my being provided a task, though fully knowing that I didn’t leave the group to perform such task, has challenged Carlan’s acceptance of much of anything I say, yet has not provided any evidence of his claims of my being a fraud. Glaive also doesn’t provide such evidence.

All in all this has been a lesson step for me to deal with but as much of this has transpired on the Escondido newspaper’s blog, the closest big town to where Do and Crew exited, I think it important to provide the content in the Link that was nothing special and the comments for whatever they may be worth. Like Jesus the Lamb said in Revelations and Do said was the meaning of Armageddon, it’s a war for souls and the Luciferians will stop at nothing to turn eyes away from the truth. Glaive wants to keep people away from seeing what I write or say. Carlan has weighted in to that view as well I think it safe to say, but I see them as giving into influences ideas as otherwise they would have specific things to say instead of blanket empty accusations as how can anyone correct something if they aren’t told what needs to be corrected. I can’t help it that I have 19 years of hearing Ti and Do’s voices in my head so to not refer to that would to me hiding from the task that for all of us is part of the lesson step to speak/write about.

So here is the conversation so far:

crlody Says on Sawyers blog:

February 22, 2017 at 3:57 pm

I believe that you are a fraud. I didn’t believe it when Rio claimed he was receiving info. from Do and I don’t believe that you have “contacts” with the NL in the form of an “open phone line””. I don’t believe that your book is fulfilling prophecies in the Book of Revelation. You are here because you are unwilling/afraid to accept the invitation to leave just like everyone else, your mission is entirely self-appointed. I believe that you have been on your self-appointed crusade all these years because you want attention and recognition. You have attracted followers, individuals who have called me a “Luciferian” because I don’t agree with you. Your book is an incoherent joke compared to the info left behind by the Class.

Sawyer Says:
February 24, 2017 at 8:24 pm

I don’t know why you have to start lies. I think you are getting me mixed up with Rio because that’s the only way you can mount your case against me. For instance you said, “I don’t believe that you have “contacts” with the NL in the form of an “open phone line””.

Well I don’t believe I have that either. I don’t recall Ti and Do claiming to have an “open phone line”. They said many times they felt like they would “call” and there was no answer and they would think they needed to rethink the question or wait for another time to ask it. I do recall Rio saying in the 10 year anniversary article written by a newspaper that he had a “ticker tape” connection and I recall commenting on my blog that, that sounded suspicious since Ti and Do never spoke of having that kind of connection. I don’t mind you confronting me with anything but I think you owe it to Ti and Do if you still believe in them to try to bring genuine criticisms instead of making things up as I have seen you do many times. I have no “followers” in the sense you seem to mean that word. If someone follows what I write on this blog and elsewhere then the only one they will “follow” is DO, not me though I hope what I say to people is pleasing to Ti and Do and do welcome examining that. Why am I responsible for someone else calling you a Luciferian. I put no one up to that. I don’t believe in name calling but perhaps it’s karma for all your name calling – remember all you would say about Mark and Rio – “false prophets”, etc. and me as a “fraud” yet can show nothing fraudulent so it’s just empty words just I like I get from many others. How do you know my book is an “incoherent joke compared to the info left behind by the class.” Have you even read much of it? If you have, I will be the first to admit it’s hard to follow at times and can be disjointed and scattered and poorly structured and filled with editing errors and grammar problems and that from start to finish shows that I was learning as I went so that by the end there were things in the front that I could have updated. In my mind I ran out of time.

How do you know who does or does not have contact with the Next Level? Wow, aren’t you full of yourself to take that position with anyone. There could be many thousands that the Next Level have communication with and you wouldn’t know it.

No the book doesn’t fulfill prophecy. Prophecy means something inspired by the Next Level is being spoken – written. It a person that chooses to accept the task of the speaking what the Next Level provides. The book is an accumulation of what I heard and read from Ti and Do and what Jesus said and what was related to what Jesus said that I did some re-translation of and thus re-interpretation of to show how it is evidence of all Ti and Do taught and did. That’s what’s throughout the book. If you spoke/wrote to someone about what Ti and Do said, you’d also be fulfilling that task of what is a dissemination of their information.

It seems to me and I could be wrong about this I know, but I don’t see that you equate Jesus with DO and Ti with The Father or perhaps you hold those ideas in limbo as part of what you didn’t want to accept from Do when you were in the classroom, the reason you told me why you left.

You state facts as if they are facts when it’s clear they are not facts now saying I have a “crusade”. Where do you get those thoughts and words? Not from Do’s mind that I see any evidence of so where does that leave one to think as there is only two kinds of Mind.

You seem to just play the same “tapes” over and over every time you write a comment like you are stuck in an endless loop never hearing anything I say as a rebuttal to you empty accusations if you even read what I say.

Yes you are right that it was fearful for me to think about laying down my body at this time. And that may be because of the influences with me, though I don’t know that as it’s possible the influences at this point would love to get rid of my vehicle so they aren’t confronted with the truth as much, as is occurring more and more now.

So you got your beef off as you have done many times now and it does affect me to hear/read it. I have taken to heart some of your accusations from years ago, to a degree that in my own self examination I saw had some merit but beyond that you have not said anything, but have made things up like that stuff about “open phone line” that I never said or implied. You know bearing false witness against your neighbor was one of the Ten Commandments that would fall under the category of being deceitful as a major offense so maybe you should do more fact checking before throwing out lies.

Glaive Says on Sawyers blog in reply to Crlody’s comment:
February 26, 2017 at 2:17 pm | Reply   edit

Agreed with CRL, this book is heresy. Anything added after the Exit to the info They left behind is heresy.
That being said, it’s not that I never did it myself, but, at least, I realize and regret it later.

Sawyers reply on blog to Glaive:

Now you are spreading lies about what Crlody said as I don’t recall him calling my book “heresy”, though perhaps now he might I guess. Are you quoting him? Who said that nothing could be said after the exit? Who are you quoting for that?

Why is it so easy to cast stones without evidence? I will listen to evidence. I’m not perfect by any means.

Since you commented here I’ll include the comments you left on:

The Escondido Grapevine story “Heaven’s Gate survivor 20 years later”, in reference to the Inside Edition story:

I left a comment on this New story post:

Sawyer | February 24, 2017 at 11:06 am | Reply

Hello, I am Sawyer who was featured on the Inside Edition story.
For the full interview I gave to Inside Edition I have posted on my youtube channel:

Sawyer’s interview with Inside Edition on 02 15 2017 – part 1 of 2

Part 1 of 2: A crew interviewed me and I also recorded it. The report is out and they stimulated a new lie saying there was a room where 4 members left blood stains on the carpet but there was no blood anywhere in the mansion according to reports. And I made a mistake by paraphrasing a bit about how Do questioned his sanity every day after the St. Louis prosecutor made him take a psychological exam to let him out of jail and he passed it so was declared sane.

Sawyer’s interview with Inside Edition on 02 15 2017 – part 2 of 2

Part 2 of 2: A crew interviewed me and I also recorded it. The report is out and they stimulated a new lie saying there was a room where 4 members left blood stains on the carpet but there was no blood anywhere in the mansion according to reports. And I made a mistake by paraphrasing a bit about how Do questioned his sanity every day after the St. Louis prosecutor made him take a psychological exam to let him out of jail and he passed it so was declared sane.

If anyone wants to read my Book – it’s filled with the truth and my interpretation of scripture and is available free on my blog but is an ebook and softcover found at:

There is a lot to be said that is a new perspective that is included in my book that brings a vast amount of evidence that Ti and Do were the Father and “Jesus” (not his vehicle) returned. Ti and Do and their Crew didn’t spend any time at all trying to show how it all was part of the prophecy fulfillment but I have and it’s all in my book which was planned for this time (though I didn’t know it, but shows up on prophecy)

I have also been outspoken on many stories over many years and I follow stories with corrections. For instance there were many to Ashley Feinberg’s piece for Gizmodo to be found on:

Sawyer’s Critique of Heaven’s Gate Webmasters Interview with

Finally, as we come up to the anniversary, the Kingdom of God, Kingdom of Heaven that Ti and Do and their “saints” represent are instigating many “signs” as Jesus taught would be in the heavens – Sun, Moon and Stars (planets, comets). Ti and Do are not space aliens. The space aliens are the fallen angel souls who have been abducting humans and implanting them and stealing their eggs and sperm to hybridize new physical bodies they can inhabit and are teaching humans these techniques along with spacecraft design and elemental development to power them. There have been many, many signs as has been led up to in a more major way since 2013 especially with the Near Miss meteors and asteroids and comets with companion objects and comets that look like a formation of 3 to 7 objects. Hale Bopp was determined to have a double nucleus and thus the companion photographed by the Japanese but covered up by the Hawaii observatory.

Escondido story reply to Sawyer:

Glaive | February 26, 2017 at 12:02 pm | Reply

Nobody should listen to Sawyer, his book is heresy. Nobody’s allowed to add anything to the info They left behind before Exit. Sawyer did. Therefore he’s heretic and shouldn’t be taken in consideration. Read materials instead, it’s the only source of pure info.

Sawyer’s reply in Escondido story to Glaive:

So Glaive we meet again and you have become an adversary it seems by your choice yet have no evidence I am saying anything Ti and Do didn’t say or Jesus didn’t say or that related to the signs in the heavens at this time. It’s easy to just cast stones. Anyone can do that but can you point to specifics, that takes effort and actually forces us to walk the talk as they say. I’m all for people going to the Heaven’s Gate Web site. My book is full of all the links to all the documents that I refer to all the time. It’s like you think that 19 years with Ti and Do is worth nothing. If you could see how many misconceptions I’ve addressed because of my vast experience you would be flabbergasted. Some of those may actually be more interested in going to the Heaven’s Gate web site now, when otherwise they may never have. And saying that does not mean I am recruiting for Heaven’s Gate as there is no new cult and there is no new leader or Older Member. I am a student working for DO but that doesn’t mean I can do no wrong, make no mistakes so if you see me say something that is different from what you can prove Do said or would say then run it by me. That would be helpful to the Next Level wouldn’t it, that is if you want people to have the most accurate information, some of which isn’t contained in the book posted on heaven’s gate web site. For instance, many people don’t know how much effort Ti and Do put into considering the exit location and method and timing starting in 1975 and it’s not in the Book. Also Ti and Do’s focus was on that graduate class not so much on the “second  type” of those who could be salvaged from the recycling as Do spoke about in “Last Chance to Evacuate before Recycling”. That’s “our” job to help with, for those that choose to tackle it and includes showing how all Jesus prophecy is being fulfilled by Ti and Do. I don’t understand how that can be a negative to the Next Level. To the Luciferians and discarnates that could be a negative and something to try to compete with. You seem to be seething because I don’t think Muslims are the “antichrist”, ignoring how Do spoke about Muslims as often caring more about pleasing the Lord. Do you recall what Do said? Some Christians seem to go along with this idea, but if you believe in EVERYTHING Ti and Do taught then how can you? Also you had a problem thinking that the Luciferians were engaged in hybridization programs to produce new vehicles they could inhabit, that is if I recall our previous conversations where you start cursing me out when you don’t agree that I have proof of on my blog. Yet Do spoke about their hybridization programs didn’t he, but maybe that part of what Do said you don’t agree with. I’ve got plenty of opposition but I don’t enjoy it but it goes with the territory. Do you really want to be opposed to someone who Do spoke about on the Beyond Human Tapes as an “older member” referring I believe to being an “elder” student. I didnt’ say that about myself. Still I fell from that position so failed to graduate but there are second chances and believe I have one. If Lucifer was given many chances to recover after what he was doing against the Next Level’s wishes, why wouldn’t little ole Sawyer get some second chances. But like I said, show me where I say anything wrong and I’ll examine it and correct it if it is in error.

Escondido story:
Glaive | February 27, 2017 at 3:08 am | Reply

You shouldn’t bother, Sawyer, my comment wasn’t for you, cause I’m done with you, and it’s been a time since. My comment was for those new believers who may come here. It’s like a warning to them.
On the other hand, somehow I don’t believe you will manage to sell many copies anyway, so… whatever, I guess ^^

Sawyer on blog:

Both Crlody and Glaive seem to both be in unison saying that I should shut up as if saying nothing would be what Do would want to happen, which you both have no evidence of.

Why are you both so sure there is something wrong with my talking about my experience and writing down the evidence that shows the world how all Jesus prophecy is fulfilled by Ti and Do?

Can either of you explain that to me. I can certainly see why the Luciferian space aliens and their discarnate minions would  hate to see such a thing happening as they’d much rather see the whole story go away or kept it little cult niche that few if any would take seriously or would see as casting doubt on what has become common Christian thinking.

Maybe you don’t like seeing me get all this attention? Maybe you think it’s elevating me in some way? Well, for whatever it’s worth, though I like talking about Ti and Do, I’m not thinking my name will be in lights and I will become the next big kahuna. I could have tried for something like that by twisting the info and story, especially in my book.

Plus Glaive, have you read my book to claim that it’s heresy? Didn’t Jesus warn against swinging at a gnat and swallowing a camel or trying to remove the twig in one’s eye while having a log in your own. Don’t those examples seem fitting this name calling attack that I get from you every so often?

Escondido story:
Glaive | February 27, 2017 at 3:40 am | Reply

I guess, I have to clarify for the public. Do personally approved any document put on the website. Nobody’s approved the content of Sawyer’s book, except… well, Sawyer himself. Now, it’s up to you to decide which source of info is worth you trust.

Escondido Story:
Sawyer’s reply:

Glaive, you sound like a fundamentalist Christian that insists that because the Book of Revelations says at the end that nothing can be added to this book, and because it was put as the last book in the New Testament that there can be no further information that can come after that and that any attempt to bring further information would be heretical and this is part of why there was an Inquisition of murder and torture by “Christians” who would say they were killing on God’s behalf. The problem was, it was the wrong God, it was the false God feeding them with that perspective. So how did Ti and Do think about this, you still have not explained. You just say the Do approved of all that was in the Book, but he didn’t say anywhere in that book that this was the only material one could use to learn the truth. In fact in the letters sent to M and S, the webmasters of who were given the option to maintain the site, etc., that were NOT included in the Heaven’s gate web site/book explained their anticipation of the audio tapes being available for those who want to disseminate their information that included the audio tapes information that was NOT in the book or in the web site, so the public could learn more in depth what they were about. Here are the quotes:

Directly from the letters that I possess are in quotes below:

1) “We put into storage items that we would prefer the authorities not have access to. You can do with those items whatever feels right to you. The only exception to this is some exercise equipment which belongs to our landlord, Sam, and we suspect he will want at some point.”

2) “Pursers have included an additional document as part of this packet that further covers the disposition of our cars and this truck. So we ask that you refer to that document for details. It is out desire that any items of value that are retrievable by you be divided among those who feel inclined to disseminate our information.  Any of the funds you retrieve can be used towards that end and for the living expenses of those involving themselves in this project.”

3) Referring to a CBC producer/director who wanted them (the class) to participate in a documentary, who worked out of the New York office, they wrote, “So, for this reason, we are recommending that they be involved to some degree in the coverage of this event, that is, if their attitude seems to remain somewhat objective and you find working with them not too difficult.  Of course, this is contingent upon whether or not you should choose to say anything to the media on our behalf. We would hope that the public would have an opportunity for more thorough knowledge of who we are and what we’re about.”

They had already published all their books content on their web site, in 1996 well before these letters were written as they were all dated, so what was going to provide a “more thorough knowledge of who we are and what we’re about” if not the content of the 484 audio tapes, 270 or so of which have still not been provided by M & S, though they have indicated they would provide for a cost but last I heard were still withholding which M’s reason for is totally inconsistent with what Do and Crew said in these letters and other places in the audio tapes and in favor of having ALL the information about them available to anyone who wants it.

Furthermore, there were documents not provided in the Heaven’s Gate web site and book that Rkkody had and provided to include a document Ti wrote and some meditations and affirmations we were given. To see those go to my blog as I provide EVERYTHING as I want everyone to have the total truth. Glaive is angry because he has some very limited views that I confronted him with to which he had no rebuttal based on what Do said. I hope he can outgrow those limitations as I have nothing against him, but I do hate the promotion of lies and deceit and being told I am a heretic WITHOUT EVIDENCE.

While we are at it, there is also the book Do and Crew published that I have and that I was present when we published and I took that book to bookstores to sell them in Dallas where we lived that is named, “The Transfiguration Diet” that is an amazing diet I am largely using to treat my Lyme disease successfully without the need for pharmaceuticals (not because I’m against using pharmaceuticals and nor were Ti and Do but because I’d rather not). That book is not on the web site and not in their Book nor am I aware of any mention of it, though it may have been spoken of in the audio tapes that M & S refuse to release to the public.

Now lastly re: my book, to say there is something wrong with researching how all Jesus prophecy supports the events, behaviors and ways provided through Ti and Do and Crew is ludicrous, as if Ti and Do never referred to the Book of Revelations and as if they didn’t say all along what we could count on what was put into “red letters” in the 4 gospel accounts and that Do even said he thought a great deal of that was dictated to students then. Ti and Do both said that the Next Level worked very hard to keep that information in tact and reliable as from the Next Level.

Additionally, Do provided to our library the “Lost Books of the Bible”, the “Nag Hammadi Library”, the book, “Essene Christian Faith” and other books about the Jewish sect called the Essences that pays special attention to Enoch’s writing who Ti said was one of Do’s incarnations and who Jesus’ disciple Peter also wrote about. In other words, DO was willing to explore lots of materials even though he knew the Jesus gospel quotes were the most reliable.

My book is following Do’s lead as best I know how and is also supported in prophecy as coming out at this time and anticipates those who will try to bring those of us who provide the truth down as we see being demonstrated here that is a choice to continue.

Here are some links to more info on this subject to include part of the book that contains interviews with Ti and Do in 1974 and 1976 and a document they wrote that’s included at the end of the book entitled, “What is Happening in the Heavens at This Time” that describes what TI and DO referred to then as “7 Major Helps” when their membership was close to the earth, where: 1=Adam, 2=Enoch, 3=Moses, 4=Elijah, 5=Jesus, 6= Bo and Peep  (Do and TI) in the task of the Two Witnesses and finally 7= Starting with what I believe was Do’s acknowledgment of his past incarnation in the vehicle named Jesus that ends the Judgment “Hour” (approx. 40 year period) with his return with his Armada of graduated Elder Students (Saints/Angels) all in their Next Level vehicles and spacecrafts in the book that’s partially provided here:

The Transfiguration Diet, by littlegreen inc.’s think tank published in 1986. This link is only a report about the use of the Books program but may become filled with excerpts or even the entire volume sometime down the road. Do and Crew described it as an 11 year effort and a “gift from space” but said nothing about TI and DO in it. They wrote that it was “An Extraordinarily advanced “turnaround” concept regarding man and food – health! or disease!

Ruffles “Snacks for Thinkers” was written by Do and the Class in 1979 and never officially published but was made into a little booklet we ended up storing and carrying around in boxes (maybe a hundred copies or so) for years. We never used them for anything I was aware of. I don’t know what became of them.

Here are three links to one of the 484 audio Tapes of TI and DO’s Meeting given in Blackhawk Colorado 1 of 3

Audio Tape of TI and DO Meeting given in Blackhawk Colorado 2 of 3

Audio Tape of TI and DO Meeting given in Blackhawk Colorado 3 of 3

Over 200 others are available.

Finally as I made reference to, the documents Ti largely wrote:

TI & DO The Father & “Jesus” Heaven’s Gate UFO Two Witnesses-Section V. ‘UNDERCOVER “JESUS” SURFACES BEFORE DEPARTURE’- 6th Thunder

February 18, 2017

*** Link to Previous Section of Book:

TI & DO The Father & “Jesus” Heaven’s Gate UFO Two Witnesses – Section IV.D.2.Daniel 9 – Seventy Weeks (Years/Affirmation Periods)-Judgement Hour-Tribulation & Abomination of Desolation (Weed Waste Bucket=Hell)


V. UNDERCOVER “JESUS” SURFACES BEFORE DEPARTURE – Do’s writing that was published to 90 World Wide Web Newsgroups in 1995 – the 6th Roar/Thunder. Part of the start of what would become the LAST HARVEST WAVE:

The original can be found on my blog at:

Undercover “Jesus” Surfaces Before Departure, By Do

I, Sawyer who was present with Do for 19 years (10 of which while TI was incarnate), from 1975 to 1994 that can be seen on the first, second and a few other of the Beyond Human video tapes as Do’s “helper,” sat in front of him to hear him say all these things many times in various ways. So I am an eye witness. I wanted to include this document just the way Do wrote it but because of the way Do’s writings have been copyrighted by others who I can not trust would give me permission to include in my book (and because my book is for sale as the best way to distribute it most widely), to not infringe on those human laws I’m re-writing Do’s document in my words, like I said the words I heard him say many times:

1. Do said he is a member of the Kingdom of God which is in generic terms referred to as “The Evolutionary Level Above Human” and that he is about to return to his Father’s Kingdom.

A. He said this return requires him to prepare to lay down his borrowed human body so he can renter his biological body that belongs to the Kingdom of God, just as he did approximately 2000 years ago when he laid down the human body that was about 33 years old in order to reenter his body belonging to the Kingdom of Heaven.

B. He said The Level Above Human is a physical Kingdom Level and it is in the physical Heavens aka space. Those who are in that Kingdom identify with their Soul and its mind (aka spirit) and not with the “flesh” or physical body they “wear.”

2. He says that this time his “Older Member” (who he realized was his Heavenly Father) came with him. It was in the early 1970’s that they incarnated into adult human bodies that were in their forties. About 2000 years ago, He incarnated into a body that was in its late 20’s or early 30’s just prior to, during and following his baptism with John the Baptist. (Note the incarnation was performed in stages as it takes time to put Next Level Mind into a human vehicle, although He said the Jesus body had been specially prepared for that task.)

3. He said it seemed each time we, or others come from the Level Above Human, to Earth or leave, it is by the transportation of a Next Level spacecraft.

4. He said his Father is an Older Member in the Next Level.

Note: They said that on earth there was the Mineral Kingdom then the Plant Kingdom and then the Animal Kingdom to the Human Kingdom but that the Human Kingdom was designed as a “stepping stone” or said in scripture as a “footstool” for Souls to graduate by their will and efforts by adopting all they are given by the incarnate Older Members who they can not graduate without as they must literally please both Older Members while with them in the flesh. However, those that can not be with them in the flesh now because they are not incarnate can still advance towards their graduation to adult membership and can even be rewarded with a student level membership in the Next Level that if they continue can be brought back to have the needed overcoming experience with the incarnate Older Member to gain Adult Next Level Membership that includes eternal life and significant service opportunities in their new Next Level family.

A. He said his “Father” birthed him into that Kingdom by taking him through his overcoming of a mammalian civilization and that this took place long before this current human civilization started. (Revelations chapter 12 indicates His Father births him again to the “throne” task that they then performed together before His Father exited the female vehicle he had taken to perform that task.)

B. He said he served as His “Father’s” student and apprentice while in relationship with this current civilization.

Note: TI actually said he served in the tasks/vehicles of Adam, Enoch, Moses, Elijah, then Jesus and to date in the name Do, pronounced “doe” which came in part from the Sound of Music SONG, a fulfillment of prophecy in Revelations chapter 14. TI and DO felt the Next Level works often by inspiring producers and directors and writers and that the Sound of Music was in particular shaped to provide a type of wake up smelling salt to TI and DO and their task. They said their task as TI and DO was their “6th closeness” and that the 7th and last closeness was as the “Jesus” return. This document represents the start of that seventh closeness as it’s the same Older Member but the seventh closeness in not an incarnate one. He will be in his Next Level vehicle. Rev 14:14 indicates it would be a vehicle that was “like unto the son of man” and Rev 19:13 indicates he is “clothed with a vesture dipped in blood,” what seems to be a direct reference to how when he was incarnate in the vehicle named Jesus he was baptized by shedding his blood – giving his life – laying down his body on his Older Member’s instruction as he said:

Joh 10:18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

And he commissioned his disciples to follow in his footsteps as part of their requirement to be his disciple – to drink the same cup of his blood which every aspirant to membership in the Kingdom of Heaven must eventually rise to do. That is because each will have taken in enough Next Level Mind (holy spirit) to know that their physical human body is not who they have become and that they will trust their Soul will live on in the Next Level’s care, even though it’s a most difficult task to rise to because of how our human flesh generally wants to live. But the overcoming process entails overriding the human flesh and we can grow in that process by taking on all the behaviors and ways the Older Members provide us in whatever lesson step we are engaged which is ALL accomplished by asking the help of our Older Members whether they are incarnate or not. At this time the direct connection is to ask the help of TI and DO – asking for the strength to take the next steps they would have us each take that they will then help us to recognize and take while leaving it up to our free will on how fast to grow towards graduation.

C. He said that His Father’s relationship to earth was one of “Chief Administrator” and that His Father is the One referred to as the “True God” in the early phases of this civilization.

5. He said that this time around He came with His Older Member in a way They called “undercover,” to help Him pick up where the process left off about 2000 years ago to further birth and provide “fathering” experience with those Souls who would be the next new children in the Level Above Human, aka “sons.” He said this gave Him more experience in the birthing process. He said TI returned to His Next Level station in 1985 but continued to assist Him and communicate with Him from a more advanced perspective. (Note, Do speaks of TI as a “Him” because there is no gender to Next Level Souls or their biological vehicles they wear, though there is a purpose to what gender human vehicle a souls takes to overcome.)

A. He said his Father incarnated in a female body for His 15-year stay.

B. He said most of Their task required not acknowledging who They were historically which was a strategy because They wanted as little recognition and interference as possible to be able to gather the souls who were their students from the past. They were still identified as a tiny radical cult, because just like 2000 years ago prospective members left their families and relationships to follow Him and be his student. He said he knew he would be hated again for what Christians would call “blasphemy” because of saying who He is and he will be hated by families, etc. who are affected by all who aspire to leave with him/them because the mission requires forsaking all ties and binds to this world (family ties, responsibilities, and human-mammalian indulgences).

6. He said prospective new “sons” (souls who occupy both male and female bodies) were gathered by He and TI from 1975-76 and then in 1994 which was after TI had exited her incarnation and that all these souls had had a previous relationship with Him before this incarnation.

7. He said “students” were offered the opportunity to bond with Him and His Father just like bride would bond with her husband.

A. He said, since the Next Level has no mammalian or human members, these students had to become “new creatures.” They would bond in mind, spirit, and behavior that would be void of human sexuality, human types of binds, and addictions of this world. Some of the students with male vehicles chose on their own to have their vehicles neutered, aka castrated professionally to help them sustain a more genderless and objective consciousness.

Note: Jesus approved of such an action for the Kingdom of Heaven’s sake. (Mat 19:12)

B. He also said that students who successfully bond to the Level Above Human through Him and His Father must also prepare to lay down their human bodies as we go to the Kingdom of Heaven, in order to take bodies appropriate to and belonging to that more advanced Kingdom.

8. He said as they prepare to lay down their human vehicles and announce entry into the Next Kingdom as available there might be many humans who have received “souls” in “deposits” who may choose to separate from everything of their world to go with them.

A. He said these will try to rid themselves of their old minds, and identities to instead fill themselves with the mind that flows through him to be accepted as one of his “children.” He says it will “cost” them everything of this world, they will desperately desire to be rid of fast.

B. He said to go with him, expecting to leave “very soon,” would be students must look to Him and His students for all their needs as best they can and align with them – breaking human bonds. He said if these new students declare to others that TI and DO and Crew’s presence is from the Kingdom of God that leads to the “laying down” of their bodies in pursuit of the Next Kingdom as well, then they, too, will find themselves in the safekeeping of that Next Kingdom. By safekeeping He is saying they will be in line to receive further nurturing toward membership in the Next Level.

C. He said if TI doesn’t require this “disposition” of them, TI will take them up into His spacecraft (that will look to us as a cloud of light) before they “lay down their bodies.”

9. He said Humans with deposits containing souls can most likely be recognized as some of those who are quickly losing respect for this human world or its “system.” From an establishment point of view, they are acting irresponsible, anti-social, duped, crazy, as a drifter, loner, drop-out, separatist, or cult member, etc.

10. He said a humans lifestyle, belief system, or moral values don’t matter much in between “visits” from incarnate Members of the Next Level like now and 2000 years ago. What’s important is that the Kingdom of Heaven is here NOW in HIM and in HIS students.

11. He said the evidence they speak the truth is:

A. Their information and actions match recorded accounts of the presence, behavior and mission and departure of our previous visits from the Next Level while offering membership in the Kingdom of Heaven, Kingdom of God.

B. Any Soul who knew anyone from the Next Level during past visits are capable of recognizing them and their information again now.

C. It appears some of the crashed spacecrafts were staged by the Next Level that delivered some of them to help human skeptics realize earth has otherworldly visitors.

12. He said just as 2000 years ago, no one gets to His Father or enters the Kingdom of Heaven except through Him. No other Son of His Father or Representative from the Next Level is incarnate. He said connecting with “that kingdom” only takes place when a Member is incarnate, as he is today.

Note: To those who would see this statement from Do as indicating, since he’s no longer incarnate, there is therefore no way to “connect with the Next Level,” they are not correct, though it can seem to some a cut and dry statement, so can be used by some as an excuse to not learn more about what he said that broadens that perspective. That would be one’s choice to see that way and the Next Level Older Members do “test” us, which considering everything else he said before and after writing this statement, this appears to be one of those tests. Taking what he said verbatim it is quite possible that everyone that comes to believe in and follow his teachings did “connect” with “that Kingdom” during the time when he was incarnate. For instance, one could have been 10 years old when they heard about the Heavens Gate cult and saw the Hale Bopp Comet and they could have had thoughts and feelings that led them to connect in whatever way at that time. Actually, several told me this happened to them when they were about that age. One told me, when he saw them on the news and saw the comet he had the thought that these were “the Saints” in the Bible. Others told me they knew this cult was different from all the others they heard about – an intuitive knowing, not because they had studied it all as they were very young in 1997. Do said that as long as a Rep was present incarnate “tags” and/or deposits of recognition could be given so these seem to be some examples. Do didn’t say “connect with him,” he said, “connect with that kingdom.”

He was also saying He is the only one who would be incarnate. Whether we connect with the Next Kingdom by projecting our asking to the highest Beings we can imagine exists or to the Hale Bopp comet, thinking someone might be in or on it or along side it, in it’s tail or generally with it in a spacecraft is connecting, though since He was the primary focus in the news surrounding their exit, however one connects is also connecting with him personally because he is serving/representing the Next Kingdom via his incarnation. He is the provided Link. His incarnate presence is the link – what he said and did while he was incarnate is the only instructions to follow. So that means everything he taught while incarnate for as long as it is present is the way to connect with him which includes talking to him right now.

Additionally, if this wasn’t the case, how is it that Do said in the Beyond Human Series and said in the video, Last Chance to Evacuate Earth Before It’s Recycled, given by Do on September 29, 1996, thus long after the Undercover “Jesus.”.. document, that there are three kinds or types of individuals that can have a possible future with the Kingdom of God and escape the spading under. The third type are those that never even heard of TI and DO so if they could only connect with the Next Level during his incarnation and that meant only through him, if they didn’t know of him how could they connect and be saved? It’s because as he explains some begin to separate from the world and are even seen by the world as derelict, irresponsible, cultists, separatist, even militia types (though not condoning being violent in any way) who hate the status quo and/or the human governments and/or the overall system, though they don’t know what other option there is. Do suggested Randy Weaver, and the Branch Davidians as some examples.

13. He said there are space aliens that are humanoids who are remnants from other civilizations that have spacecrafts and travel in near space. He says they grow and harvest hybrid bodies to “wear” and they enlist “souls” who fail to become children in the Kingdom of Heaven/God who are called Luciferians because of their lineage.

14. He said These Luciferian space aliens “jump in” immediately after Next Level Representatives exit their incarnation and influence remaining “patriarch(s)” to mix truth and misinformation together to become a new religion which supports the fact that accurate knowledge concerning the Next Level is only available while there are incarnate Representatives.

15. He said the Next Level sends crews to “tag” or make “deposits” in human bodies and their minds/spirits just before and during the time Next Level Representatives are incarnate “offering” their birth. Deposits offer the recipients “recognition” of the Representatives and, to some degree, recognition of the “information” from the Next Level while also serving as “homing devices” to lead recipients to the Representatives and the information to move closer to their graduation into the Next Kingdom. Without these “deposits” that provide “recognition,” a human can not become a student.

16. He said all souls of this civilization who ever received deposits from the Next Level have returned at this close of the Age. The Next Level tasks their servants, TI and DO and Crew to test them. How they respond to Do and His students, and Their information will become the criteria to judge whether a human will or will not have a further relationship with the Kingdom of God. Coming in contact with this information forces their decision and by the stand each human takes they judges themselves, choose to be saved (redeemed) or not. Those who accept TI and DO and Crew and endure until They leave will go with Them so won’t need to experience the “spading under” or recycling of this earth – and will in the future become new beginning members in the real Above Human Kingdom Level in the Heavens.

Link to next section of book:

TI & DO The Father & “Jesus” Heaven’s Gate UFO Two Witnesses – Section VI. Appendix


TI & DO The Father & “Jesus” Heaven’s Gate UFO Two Witnesses – Section IV.D.2.Daniel 9 – Seventy Weeks (Years/Affirmation Periods)-Judgement Hour-Tribulation & Abomination of Desolation (Weed Waste Bucket=Hell)

February 15, 2017


Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

Dan 9:24 Seventy ((7657 shib`iym shib-eem’ multiple of ‘sheba`’ (7651))) weeks ((7650 shabuwa` from shaba` demonstrative of sheba`= literal “sevened,” to seven oneself (as if by repeating a declaration, to swear an oath, adjure orders or instruction (commandments, covenant, commitment seven times))) (are) determined ((2852 chathak= to cut off, decree, divide, be settled, marked out, sealed)) upon ((5921 ‘al= above, over (of elevation or pre-eminence), from)) (thy) people ((5971 ‘am= congregated unit, tribe, flock, men, nation (and upon thy) holy ((6944 qodesh from qadash(6942)= consecrated, dedicated, saint)) city ((5892 ‘iyr= Ai (from margin), city, court (from margin), town, encampment)), (to) finish ((3607 kala’= forbid, keep, refrain, restrain, withhold, shut up)) (the) transgression ((6588 pesha’ (from pasha’ revolt, sin, rebellion)) (and to make an) end ((8552 tamam= cease, be clean, be all gone)) (of) sins ((2403 chatta’ah= offenses)) (and to make) reconciliation ((3722 kaphar= cover with pitch, atone for sin (give lives as flesh sacrifice of their humanity in all forms, cleanse, purge)) (for) iniquity ((5771 ‘avon from ‘avah= fault, mischief, perversity)), (and to bring) in ((935 bow= abide, apply, attain, be, bring forth)) everlasting righteousness ((6664 tsedeq from 6663 tsadaq= prosperity, (and to) seal up ((2856 chatham= close up, make an end, mark, stop)) (the) vision ((2377 chazown= sight (mentally))) (and) prophecy ((5030 nabiy’= from naba (5012) inspired speech/song)), (and to) anoint ((4886 mashach= rub with oil)) (the) most ((6944 qodesh from qadash(6942)= holy, consecrated, dedicated)) Holy ((6944 qodesh from qadash(6942)= saints)).

This verse is an overview of the “end times” period when all souls are brought back as prophesied by Jesus to “resurrect to Life” – “stand up/rise up” to give themselves totally to the Next Level’s Overcoming of humanness program or stand-up/rise-up to “damnation” in the Lake of Fire. It doesn’t primarily refer to other times before the end time, though there are similarities leading up to the end time, but there is no other time where these characteristics are most applicable:

– Seventy Weeks decreed (determined) flock (people) sacred (holy) encampment (city) – The “Multiple of seven (times)” (seventy) is decreed/determined for those (people (saints) of/and the holy city location for their affirmation, oath, covenant (weeks)(equivalent to the Seven Seals as the Greek “sphragis” refers to both; revealing the content of the “book” (Rev 5) that had been kept a mystery, to make known the full truth of how and when a Soul can make application to graduate into membership in the Kingdom of Heaven – The Next Level Above Human and simultaneously when that same BOOK revelations, when “consumed” – read/heard, experienced, received, digested and utilized provides the formula to become an “active student” (saint) to “confirm and provide proof to the Next Level,” by their willingness to give their lives to the service of the most recently incarnate Older Member(s), TI and DO.

The Revelations 7 Seals were introduced in Rev 5:1 pertaining to the opening of the BOOK that was written from within the Throne (TI and DO) that is the primary content of the BOOK geared most for all those WITHIN the Third Trimester FIRST Harvest “classroom,” opened by the Lion of the Tribe of Juda (Jesus, but last incarnate in the name Do) and the Backside (coming AFTER what is written from within) and about the complete revealing of Jesus’ and Old Testament Prophets prophetic fulfillments as evidenced in the content of the BOOK that is an “anthology of all TI and DO and Crew wrote and did over 25 years, to make known the truth about what was previously kept a mystery until this time.

-“revolt, rebellion, sin, trespass (transgression)” is “held back, restrained or withheld (finished)”

TI and DO said the Next Level did a great deal of setup Their experiential overcoming classroom. It was for this reason the U.S. was not only a melting pot to provide vehicles for the returning Souls to try to take over and overcome and for the returning souls against the Next Level to put Those Student souls to the tests they needed to build strength by warding off and overcoming and changing their negatives into positive growth. This setup brought about by the closer presence of the Older Members and Their Crew stimulated all the “equal rights” movements, interest in outer space, health consciousness, peace movements, etc. In particular TI and DO said the Next Level was “holding back” events that would bring on what is called the “great tribulation” to provide a chance for their student body to have adequate time to complete their overcoming classroom as what we will soon see more and more of will make it very hard for anyone to dissent or live unconventionally in ways that would raise suspicions among humans. For instance having 40 people living in a single family house in a Denver Colorado suburb, actually one time in Littleton.

We can see to date how riots are starting more and more surrounding the bigotry and injustice often found between white people and people of color. We can see the same things happening in the 2016 presidential race where large groups are disrupting Donald Trumps rallies as seen in Chicago and other places around the country protesting him. Trump supporters are equally motivated to strike out. It’s been many years since this kind of mob vigilantism is becoming the norm because the Next Level was holding those opposing forces back. That includes holding back war on U.S. soil during the 1900’s but that is coming to an end with the increasing mass murder shootings and bombings related to many angers that are fuming and boiling to the surface more and more during the start of this 21st century.

-“completion, cleaning, ceasing, come to the full, be all gone (end)” of “offense (sin)” “cover, cancellation, purge (away), put off (reconciliation)” “punishment, fault, perversity, mischief (iniquity)”

This talks about the time when the price for sin must be paid. No longer is there “sin cancellation” as in the “day of atonement” the Lord gave to the Children of Israel and that Jesus was also evidence of by his self sacrifice, but was over-emphasized, when the animal flesh sacrifice was actually preparation to demonstrate our love for our Older Members and a trust in them by being willing to sacrifice our own flesh body, most importantly in Their service, rather than for the government or to stop the government as part of a military rebellion or to save the whales or environment or the like. This is different from someone laying down their life for their neighbor’s well being as we see when firefighter do, the big difference being it’s to save life, and not destroy another life in the process. In other words the entire premise that Jesus sacrifice was our atonement, though true was actually showing each prospective member of the Next Level what they too must do to abide in the love of our Older Members as they are willing to do for their Older Member, in the case of Jesus, for his Father (who was called Jehovah up until His “Son’s” incarnation in the name Jesus).

The times spoken of in this verse include the punishment of those who turn against the Next Level and Older Members who created us in the first place. It really amounts to whose Soul is still able to produce “fruit” and who is not or is a “weed” in their “garden.” The space aliens are all “weeds” – souls that not only fell away from their many chances to become adult members in the Next Level, but went against the Next Level with effort to turn another’s eyes away from their potential for Next Level membership. Their presence however, serves as a type of fertilizer. At this time though, the weeds have rendered the “garden” unable to produce fruit without a spading of the civilization to start from scratch again but before that removing the souls of those who are to be saved for that next “planting.”

– to “come, attain, apply, abide in, grant, get, give (in)” “always, continuance, eternal (everlasting)” “make right equity, justice, prosperity (righteousness)”

By requiring the payment for going against the behavior and ways of the Next Level as provided by Jehovah/Moses and Father/Jesus and TI/Do – (The Two Older Members from the Next Level who have been the Next Level Representatives in charge of Earth), justice and rightness is served.

– the “make an end to, stop, closing, seal (seal up)” of “mental sight, perception, provision (vision)” of or by a “prophets (prophecy)” about “consecrating, rubbing with oil, Christing, (anoint) the HOLY (most) HOLY.”

The recycling period is accompanied by the Next Level Crew’s exit of their close nurturing of the “garden” which removes the ability for remaining humans to see and understand their reality and the process of anointing – Christing – that is the giving of all our love/service to our Older Members and overcoming all of our humanness.

Returning to the seventy as a “multiple of 7 (times)” applied to “seven” as oath periods, but as with most all prophecy there are a number of context driven translation variances, interpretations and literal applications on the ground (earth) among the humans throughout the length of each “garden” experiment, the most recent one starting with the Genesis overview but specific to the making of Adam’s vehicle and deposit of what we learned was Do’s Mind/Soul.

Since the Hebrew shib`iym is defined as a “multiple of “sheba`” the cardinal number seven, but also “seven times” and actually is used in a few translations as; 10, threescore, 15, 14, 17, sixteen, thirteen and twelve which I won’t try to document as overall it’s translated to “seventy” as a multiple times 10 where 10, I understand from some who know the Hebrew alphabet is the number of a man.

“Seventy” is quite the common number and appears to not only have a relationship to time but also to the number of students being prepared for a certain amount of “seats” – positions on board spacecrafts and as a part of various Next Level crews.

For instance, Moses was commanded by Jehovah to have Aaron select 70 men from all the tribes of Israel who are looked up to by their tribes to use for tribal communications. Jesus sent 70 disciples out to tell the good news of his arrival – the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand (the right hand of the Father (God) actually). In the Book of Revelations there are the “Seven Spirits of God” around the Throne. The Seven Candlesticks represent the 7 churches – those who became believers in Jesus in the first century after his exit (ascension) back into the spacecraft behind the cloud cover. There are the “7 Angels with trumpets sounding.” These are announcing the arrival of the crew – The Two Older Members and the “saints” – returning souls of the disciples who layed down their lives in service to Jesus as he instructed them to do and those Souls saved from all previous times when an Older Member had been incarnate and they believed in him and began to separate from their world that saw belief in him as dangerously insane but pursued and stood for Him anyway despite the consequences that often meant a crucifixion or beheading or some form of death.

Then there are the “7 seals” that are both opening of Book contents to reveal more of what was kept a mystery that goes hand in hand with being periods of time for new believers to affirm a oath to TI and DO. Finally there are the “7 angels who pour out their vials” – the last plagues that are slated to begin in earnest with the fourth seal’s opening even to date in 2016 which correlate with the events the seven angels with trumpets announced but are taken to a heightened mightier than ever application to provide a last ditch effort to show humans Creator Beings exist and are taking the reigns away from the Luciferians and human “minkys” (a playful term TI and DO would sometimes use).

Do always referred to He and TI’s coming incarnate as in the “early 1970’s” and at one time wrote that TI came incarnate in 1970 though Do had said about a year before meeting TI things in his life started to fall apart, thus around 1971. They both started to awaken together upon meeting in around March or April of 1972 and left their world behind entirely on January 1, 1973 yet awakened most significantly after that by mid February and then by September or October while in Gold Beach, Oregon where they woke up significantly more to knowing they were referred to in the Book of Revelations in the task description of the Two Witnesses. They didn’t take too kindly to thinking of themselves as some biblical personality as they knew how it made them feel when someone would tell them they were Cleopatra in a past life. They wanted to run the other way and now they were saying they were someone spoken of in that ancient record.

TI and DO first gave a meeting in the North Hollywood city suburb of the greater Los Angeles (City of Gods Angels) in the first week of April of 1975 and by early October had about 70 students gathered that by April when TI called that “harvest over” with the instruction to finish up meetings already scheduled around the U.S. so that by mid June of 1976, their 1260 days of prophecy were concluded.

We numbered at “about 100” when TI and DO had us all gather in the Wyoming (wilderness) living outdoors in the national forest no facility camping area of the high plateau – an interesting number considering when Jesus sent out the 70 it didn’t seem to be counting the 12 who remained with him, bringing their number to 82 though adding in the disciples who were in female vehicles that some say were 7 and John the Baptist then totaling 90.

When we left the Wyoming wilderness area TI and DO had determined that 19 of the students didn’t make what they called “the first cut.” They were sent to a different area of the National Forest in Utah west of Toole, UT, where we next made camp. That made our numbers “about 81.”

About a year or so later, perhaps in 1977 is when they named us with the “ody” extensions using whatever names we chose by then, shortened to three letters so our names were 6 letters long. I had become Sawyer by then so my new name became Swyody. Our number by then was probably in the low 60’s. I’m going through all this to show the similarity with the Jesus numbers while TI and DO’s numbers continued to fall and some more were sent out of the class because they didn’t want to abide by procedures so that by the time we went public for the second time in 1993 we were down to exactly 24 students, though when we put the Beyond Human video tape series up on satellite broadcast in 1993 some who were in a type of half way house wanted to rejoin and did and increased our number back into the mid 30’s.

Then when we went public face to face for the second time over 19 years in 1994, over a 9 month period of holding public meetings we added over a dozen more students while some fell away by their exit time in March of 1997 to have 38 in their classroom and 4 who were out of the classroom but believed in TI and DO and ended up laying down their lives over the next couple years bringing the graduate number to 42 students. I left in September of 1994.

TI and DO indicated their student body would be replacing the task positions Lucifer and his associates that fell with him had. If a third of said group of angels fell, one of the meanings of Rev 12:7-8, if that number was 25 (The Dragon (Lucifer) + 7 Heads + 10 Horns + 7 Crowns) then the overall size of the classroom they fell from (if that’s the way it occurred) would have been about 75.

Do indicated that some of the 42 (38+4) would probably have to return to finish their overcoming and I would think those would include the 4 who were not strong enough to stay the course in the classroom for the entire lesson plan and perhaps some of those who joined in 1994 but could include some who were there from the beginning.

Laying down one’s life, however that happens, whether by someones hand who is against us or by our own hand, as long as it’s because of one’s desire to be with and serve and please ones Older Member counts as a big part of the overcoming process but not the entire part. As Do said about those that were with him, all he said had a previous relationship with Jesus which is why they were so ready to legitimately do what is otherwise unthinkable for a healthy minded Soul – willingly lay down one’s life when it’s not for a selfish reason like out of a desire to inflict pain on another as in revenge or to not face one’s hard lessons.

TI and DO referred to this graduation class as their “third trimester” where the Jesus classroom was the second trimester and the Moses classroom the first – all compared to a human birth of 9 months. Which by the way it’s interesting that the two periods of public meetings were each 9 months long – seed planting times and perhaps each time more deposits could have correlated so that there may be one more coming for those coming of middle age. The FIRST (harvest) public meeting was given by TI and DO at Canada College on August 24, 1975. It was very close to May 24th of 1976 when the last meetings were held. I know this because by the first or second week in June I with my group had returned from a meeting we put on in Fayatteville, Arkansas that next to no one attended and then and I don’t know about other groups but it’s in the ball park. Then for the LAST (harvest) of 9 months of public meetings we started two trial meetings in November of 1993 and then hit the road with everyone in the class until the last meeting in Boston on August 19th 1994.

Perhaps this LAST harvest time that began in 1993 is kin to the Jesus second trimester as those public meetings Do and Crew did were a coming out of the closet as the same person who was incarnate in the vehicle named Jesus 2000 years ago – coming via the student body of “saints” this time as Do held no public meetings after the ones he and TI did in the 1970’s. I don’t know if Do even showed up incognito to any of the public meetings the class did, but He did have us play part of a Beyond Human video tape at the University of Chicago public meeting. His FIRST coming out public was as the Two Witnesses, though TI had him be the primary speaker for as she always said she came to get him started and then would go back.

So the number seventy may additionally refer to a number of students who would confirm their oath to TI and DO and do so over the course of 70 years, like from apprx. 1975 to 2045, which would not be far fetched from the standpoint of other timeline evidence. Another date structure that seems to have significance might be 1947 to 2017 for the 70 that includes the 42 FIRST Fruit Harvest of Souls. Those who are saved above that 70 would be among the remainder of the 144,000, if that number represents how many souls were brought back from all planted in times past. TI always said, all who came with them would return. I guess that means those who showed the Next Level their allegiance significantly in times past, if they fail when they are brought back don’t become waste with the ones who failed over and over and over and went directly against the Next Level. TI and DO indicated that Lucifer and his associates that fell with him were given many chances to recover their candidacy for membership in the Next Level. Perhaps their souls were once in equivalent classrooms and were brought back each time whether they failed to make the needed grade or not but as when we fail the lessons get harder, some got to a point of no return because the began to think of themselves as equivalent to their Older Members. I know of some right now who did end up publically talking against TI and DO. I would imagine that is a pretty serious step towards permanently mutating into “waste” – giving service to some “other god” the number one commandment breakage.

Dan 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

Dan 9:25 Know (therefore and) understand, (that) (from the going) forth ((4161 brought out, bud, spring, course)) (of the) commandment ((1697 dabar= act, business, decree, errand, cause)) to restore ((7725 shuwb= turn back (hence, away), feed, build, lay down, lodge, make)) (and to) build ((1129 banah= obtain children, repair, set(up))) Jerusalem ((3389 yruwshalaim= a dual (in allusion to it’s two main hills (mountains)), Great City, Holy City)) (unto the) Messiah ((4899 mashiyach= anointed, consecrated person as a king, priest, saint)) the Prince ((5057 nagiyd= captain, commander, excellent thing, governor, ruler)) ([shall be]) seven ((7651 sheba= seven times, seven fold, seventeen)) weeks ((7620 shabuwa= sevened oneself, adjure, take an oath, swear, X straitly, feed to the full)), (and) threescore ((8346 shishshiym= multiple of ‘shesh’ (8337 and 8336)= primitive number six, sixty or sixth with certain context= “bleached stuff” i.e. white linen, by analogy marble, X blue, silk)) (and) two ((8147 shnayim= dual of sheniy = again, double, twofold, both, couple, second (time), twain, twice, + twelve, another)) weeks ((7620 shabuwa= sevened oneself, adjure, take an oath, swear, X straitly, feed to the full)): (the) street ((7339 rchob= broad place (The Way), a width, made wide, enlarge)) (shall be) built ((1129 banah= obtain children, make, repair, set up, called, convert, delivered)) again ((7725 shuwb= break, build, circumcise, lodge, pull in again)), (and the) wall ((2742 charuwts= incised or incisive, a trench (as dug), gold (as mined), threshing sledge (having sharp teeth), fig. determination, eager, decision, diligent, (fine) gold, pointed things, sharp, threshing instrument)), (even in) troublous ((6695/6693 tsowq/tsuwq= strait, fig. compress, distress, lie sore, (op-)press(-or), straiten, through the idea of narrowness (of orifice)); to pour out, smelt, utter, be molten, pour)) times ((6256 ‘eth= time after, season, tide, terminus, eternity, everlasting, old, perpetually)).

– “Restore Build Jerusalem Messiah Prince seven weeks” – First off use of the name, “Jerusalem” refers primarily to the flock (people) – the human vehicles the Next Level gathers periodically in one location to then send an Older Member to be incarnate among. So it’s both the people who can become the next trimesters “overcomers” (the true meaning of an Israeli (no longer anything to do with those that are considered to be Jews).

The restoration and building seems to be depicting the Next Level’s bringing Souls who had been “saved” previously for their good service, most likely from their Moses classroom experience to that specific location where Jesus was to incarnate so they can also incarnate (take over a human vehicle prepared for their next “second” trimester towards “spirit birth.”

The period seems to start around the time when Mary and Elizabeth received instructions (commandments) that they would each bear a special child though Mary’s child, Jesus, TI and DO thought was prepared for his task by inseminating Mary’s egg in another way than the human method of insemination.

The Seven Weeks being “seven oath periods” then would have been equivalent to the “seven seals” that applies to the “building again” but the next time the “street” – the “wide plate,” the “broad area” described in the NEW equivalent area where a new strain of vehicles (gentiles and Jew mix) would become the regeneration Jesus spoke of, where those who are the recipients of “deposited souls” would return to when they died as Jesus and TI and DO said, “all souls who ever had a relationship with the Next Level will be returning during the third trimester time. Note how “street” is part of this prophecy and how the city names are said to be the “non-physical (spiritual) equivalents to those cities in the Middle east, which I remind Jesus said would happen upon their return, shown as the Two Witnesses who are “subdued” (overcome) in the “street” of those new locations:

Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

It seems these 7 oath times (weeks) would have begun around the time Jesus came public as that’s when some were stimulated to make their oath/commitment to Him, which would start with those vehicles most prepared to receive returning souls who had been with Him when he took over the vehicle named Moses and then by those souls who in degrees had formed their relationship with the Next Level during that same Moses classroom who were referenced as the 70 Jesus sent out to tell the good news of his kingdoms arrival that he was the incarnate (at hand) Representative of and then that grew to 120 at the upper room where Jesus told them to wait for the “holy ghost” – a Next Level task to give them a special dose of Next Level force and understanding that was reported as growing to around 500 soon thereafter but then became those in what the Book of Revelations refers to as the 7 Churches.

If the duration of each oath time compares with the current application of the way the first 3 of 7 seals played out, it would be about 8-10 years per seal/oath period, thus 70 years. that would seem to take it to 70 AD when the physical destruction of the temple at Jerusalem took place to coincide with the mental/spiritual destruction (desolation) – rendering as waste those at the time who were the general population most geared to be the receivers of returning Souls – the Jews that The Romans slaughtered and scattered. Those that were truly giving their lives to Jehovah, however best they understood that at that time and/or in the name of the Father, through Jesus, who all died because of the onslaught – starting from when Jesus was killed, would have their souls saved for their next opportunity to take over a human vehicle to advance in their “classroom” towards graduation from the human kingdom. TI and DO referred to those in Masada besieged by a Roman legion who ended up exiting by their own hands rather than watch their loved ones be brutally enslaved and/or tortured to death by the Roman soldiers.

– “threescore two weeks the street shall be built (set up to obtain children) “to turn back” (again), and the wall (mark, cut; palisade, gold (as mined, decision), even in troublous (a strait, distress, anguish) times (after, (due) season)”

As has been often the case during this project as I am working on verses, I at times see reports or news stories that sometimes seem to be in response to my desire to know. I know that’s possible. For instance I have a number or reasons to feel at least one classmate or crew is assigned to help me with this book. I think of that person as Srrody as he and I (with Lggody) spent the most time studying scripture in the 1990’s when Do was wondering if TI would have us go public again, as before then we had not spoken to the public since around May of 1976. (I don’t seek to communicate with Srrody though – We always go through our Older Members with our petition for help and understanding.) So I turned on the radio and there was a show with an intellectual who wrote a book he titled using the word “apocalypse” re: the “occupy wall street” movement that took place starting in 2009 following the “global financial crisis” that was all about the wall street investment banks cashing in on some loopholes in laws that allowed them to offer house loans to people that clearly could not pay them. They would then take these loans that accumulated and bundle them and buy and sell the bundles which ended up making some people even more wealthy than they already were. It all came crashing down, they say, though I suspect it was another of those “let’s build a situation to fail” and then cash in when it does, like the 9/11 attacks eight years before then and many events in the past throughout the world that leaders instigated for the same reasons.

So I thought, could it be that this “wall” was related to “wall street.” Plus this is where the 1929 stock exchange crash happened with crowds wanting their money filling the area of Wall Street and Broad Street and Wall Street is .7 miles long and ends at Broadway and the Hebrew rchob means “broad place (or way).” After all, the Next Level crew could have had the task to see to it that a particular street could be named a certain way they then knew they could use to show it’s relationship to prophecy, however incidental looking. In other words the Next Level provides the prophecy and then makes it happen by a crew’s leg work – whispering ideas to those who are naming such things and the like. TI and DO even indicated some of this is particularly fun to do – no one is harmed by it and it demonstrates some of the tasks and how they are not dry but can even be silly to be a part of.

Then as is also often the case, I’m stumped and especially so by Daniel’s prophecies so I start digging through other interpretations and translations. In so doing I came upon a very detailed Hebrew word for word description on these verse and he cited many more dated interpretations and one of them included interpreting Hebrew “charuwts” as a “palisade” and I couldn’t help but relate that to the palisades along the Hudson River to the immediate northeast of New York City are very tall sharp faced cliffs that have a highway and an amusement park and a mall named after – for instance, the Palisades Amusement park and the Palisades parkway. Charuwts also translates to “gold (as mined)” and there is no place that has more gold than NYC as the Federal reserve bank has huge vaults with many nations gold stored and there was a huge cash of gold bars, some I’m told still stamped with a Nazi marking on them that were found in vaults belonging to Deutschebank in the deep basement floor of the world trade center buildings that collapsed or were brought down. Another figurative definition is “determination or decision” and it’s clear that the “wall street led financial crisis” began in 2009, seeming into the start of the 7th angels trumpet sounding and the start of the “tribulation” time written as “troublous.”

Plus this thinking takes me to the perspective that “street built again wall” seems to refer to the entire U.S. as compared to the way the Israelites in their time led by Moses and Aaron acting as Jehovah’s on the ground Representative(s), (similar to the relationship shown with Jesus and John the Baptist) layed out the measurements for the “tabernacle” (temple grounds in the overall encampment).

For instance the area that was the “temple” was divided into three parts – the Outer court, Inner Court and the Tabernacle tent where Jehovah’s quarters were. The entire area was set up in exact measurements where it’s length was twice it’s width which is moreorless the size of the U.S. mainland. There was only one entrance to this entire area that was surrounded by a “wall” made out of fine linen 7 1/2 feet (5 cubits) high that had 60 – 7 1/2 foot pillars holding up the fine linen. The gate on the east side of this 150 (100 cubits) x 75 foot (50 cubits) rectangular enclosed area, entailed 4 posts so was 22 1/2 feet (15 cubits) wide. This gate’s cloth was woven of blue, purple, scarlet (red) and fine linen (white) thread they made. It’s interesting that the St. Louis ARCH is defined as the “gateway to the west” and it’s just west of the Mississippi River that TI and DO considered the division of the area of the U.S. they felt most in touch with their Older Members in the Heavens. They would occasionally venture east of the river and even took the class east twice for a very short time of a couple weeks at most before feeling “underwater” and having a need to return west of the river.

In the Moses tabernacle area right in front of this eastern GATE was the tribe of Judah with two tribes to their north and south on that eastern side. Directly behind Judah were the tents of Moses, Aaron and Aaron’s three sons who served as priest with Aaron the “high priest.” Thus this was like the captains deck of the Mississippi River boat, what the word “Texas” in Spanish actually refers to where the Captain in this case was Moses and his partner was Aaron with his Three sons, I believe represent the “four Living Beings (creatures) in Rev 4 and are also depicted in Daniel chapter 7 and Ezekiel chapter 1. Texas is where the “Twain” TI and DO came from and I believe Samuel Clemens writing as Mark Twain chose that name and as a Mississippi River boat Captain was chosen to be like a prophet in the start of the Seven Trumpets sounding in the 1907 time period which seemed to follow the 1897 arrival of that Soul as the equivalent of the messenger before the face of, in this case TI and DO to where Do as the current name of the same person who was the Archangel Michael, where an archangel is defined as a “captain of angels.” Plus there are many other examples of fulfillments of all this history in examples and prophecy alike.

So the “broad way” in addition to what else described about NYC as it has multiple applications in prophecy fulfillments is the width of the Temple area. In that temple after tribe of Judah is encountered and then the camp of the Levi’s Moses and Aaron and Sons comes the Temple entrance that is 30 feet wide in the 100 foot wide wall. Right past the entrance comes next the Main Altar where all the blood sacrifices of animals took place. In the U.S. temple equivalent it was in west Texas but extending to New Mexico and into Arizona and southern California the U.S. Southwest where all the Next Level sacrifices took place. They began in 1897 with the crash in Aurora, Texas with one body found and then 1945 with one body found on the Laredo, Texas border with Mexico where the one occupant led some Air Force jets on a chase for a while before intentionally crashing and then in 1947 in the Plains of St. Augustine – where four bodies were found and then Aztec New Mexico where 18 bodies were found and in Paradise valley, Arizona as the essential first “sacrifice of the Next Level student model bodies they had” and then in 1997 the sacrifice of the human vehicles they took after they exited their student Next Level bodies.

So the “broad street” becomes the entire southwest and western U.S. that is a wide platt where there is significant influences to become entrapped by all manner of licentious behavior and ways – working for “false gods” even thinking of self as an ascended master in the “Ye are God” movement that began in those areas and with the great financial wealth and abundance of sexual freedoms abounding in the new age tantra lifestyle that all has a focus on the three cities of Los Angeles, Las Vegas and San Francisco that make for a very wide path to destruction of a Next Level Soul’s capacity to overcome to graduate the human kingdom condition:

Mat 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

The way TI and DO spoke about this idea of a “broad path/way” was to say there are many paths up to the top of the human kingdom mountain but there is only one way off – to become a member of the Next kingdom Above Human, which was by adhering to what the Older Members give us to abide by while they are incarnate and we come upon their information.

“Threescore” is translated as a “Multiple of Six” or as a “Sixth” which can be applied like the SEVENTY except I suspect it refers to the 60 years before the TWO oat periods began which would seem to be from 1907 to 1967 – whereabouts the 6th angels trumpet sounding period of 40 years (1 hour) begins, during which the Two Witnesses come public to start the Two “oath periods” (seven weeks), the FIRST time period when the student body – Souls, referred to as the “saints” because they gave their lives in service to Jesus were to take human vehicles prepared for them, to awaken within that TI and DO compared to their receiving “smelling salts,” by the TWO Witnesses to join with them to finish their overcoming of humanness to graduate the human kingdom.

Since there is no punctuation in Hebrew nor sentences the “two weeks,” I feel wasn’t meant to be part of the “seven weeks” stated before it in the verse but was meant to show a dividing of the time periods of the Jesus second trimester from the TI and DO third trimester partially shown by the reference to “troublous times” in the later part of the verse after the Street is rebuilt. The time of great trouble refers to the “end time” judgment period that begins after these FIRST FRUIT have exited their human vehicles (separated by dying themselves) and when the Seventh Angels Trumpet sounds which is after the 9/11 Attack (earthquake) shown in Rev 11:13.

These two periods FIRST and LAST seem to be the “two weeks” where weeks is once again a “seven time oath” and Two is saying there are two periods of sevening – the first shown by the Sixth angel’s trumpet sounding of the Two Witnesses prophecy period and that closes with the Seventh Angel’s trumpet sounding and that begins the Seven Seals with the FIRST seal pertaining to Do and his 38 + 4 graduates who all conquer their humanness by literally being with Do and laying down their human lives in 1997 with 4 following suite by the year 2000.

Dan 9:26 (And) after ((310 ‘achar= hind part; again, at, away from, back (from,-side), behind, beside, by, follow (after,-ing), from, hereafter, hinder end, pursuing remnant, since, when, with)) threescore ((8346 shishshiym= multiple of ‘shesh’ (8337 and 8336)= primitive number six, sixty or sixth with certain context= “bleached stuff” i.e. white linen, by analogy marble, X blue, silk)) (and) two ((twofold, both, couple, double, second, twain)) weeks ((sevened as in the oath periods)) shall Messiah ((anointed)) be cut off ((3772 karath = to cut off, down or asunder, by implication to destroy, specifically to covenant)), (but not for himself): and the people ((5971 ‘am= flock, folk, men, nation)) of the prince that shall come ((935 bow’= to go or come, abide, apply, attain, X be, befall, bring (forth, in, into, to pass), call, depart, enter)) shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

– “after – the hind part or behind and/or beside, “backside” all seem to point to the time of the LAST HARVEST WAVE that is also the “troublous – distress, anguish, op-PRESS(-or) times,” which points to the time of the “great winepress of the wrath of God” as shown in Rev 14:19-20, said as taking place “out(side) the city, where “city” is referring to that bordered area where the Two Witnesses and crew came incarnate to, which would apply most to being the western U.S. leaving the U.S. east of the Mississippi River and anywhere else in the world as the “outside” part but could also count the entire U.S. as the “city.”

This hind part would also seem to qualify as during the time of the Seventh Angels trumpet sounding, I believe is indicated by the National Geographics “final Report: Heavens Gate” broadcast in 2008 that suggested TI and DO and crew as the fulfillment of the “Second Coming.” Then I would suspect the 3rd woe to be what began in 2013 – the 40 year time from when TI and DO first ventured out to delivery their “prophecy” that started with their exit of Houston on 1/1/1973 that began their substantial awakening by mid February and second substantial awakening to fulfilling the role of the Two Witnesses around the fall of 1973 when they were in Gold Beach, Oregon. 2013 was also 40 years from 1973 and would meet the fulfillment of being the end of the first “hour” to begin the “Judgment – LAST Hour.”

This LAST HARVEST WAVE would seem to include the fulfillment of the Rev 5:1 Books opening that starts with the “Heaven’s Gate” (purple) book as the part prophesied as what was “written from within” – because Do and Crew and a number of the 38 students added their statements that went with what Do wrote and the transcripts of the 12+ video tape hours of the “Beyond Human – The Last Call” series, that again shows it’s reference to being the start of the LAST HARVEST WAVE by the terminology “Last Call” where what Do said and wrote during the time He and TI FIRST came public, as the FIRST ROAR/Thunder shown starting in Rev 6:1 – from 1973 to 1976 as the FIRST CALL. The SECOND AND LAST CALL started in 1993 – what was to be the remaining 6 of 7 “roars (thunders)” – as shown referenced in Rev 10:3-4. These references to the “seven thunders” in Rev 10 are ONLY announced at that time as part of the 6th Angel’s sounding of trumpets – scheduled to begin with the Two Witnesses “prophecy” period. (See Section III.D.8. that describes the Seven Thunders/Roars.)

Rev 10:2 is when the announcement is made that describes the “little book (bibliaridion)” that seems to be associated with the Rev 5:1 – “backside” – written on the backside by the disciple of TI and DO’s choice – spoken of as John but knowing the way the Next Level works is a task that is not necessarily performed by the same Soul who received the task to write down these Revelations. Here’s why:

TI and DO often indicated that the Next Level wouldn’t plan for someone to fail to be left behind. However they could know that a certain test would be administered to certain ones that if they failed could have dire results or could be an opportunity to regain their active studentship which then could entail a plan to take advantage, make a positive from a negative by giving that person the help to perform a service which would be part of their return to giving their all and even coming back into good stead with their Older Member, to resume some part of their graduation requirements and even potentially catch up to the class lesson plan they flunked out of. In a sense that can be seen as like the Adam experiment – putting him to certain tests.

TI and DO indicated Adam didn’t have to fall. Had he passed that test – Eve became the instrument of, he would have been subject to another test and perhaps the severity of the test would be increased, if for instance he hadn’t dealt with the total strength of his assigned adversary (Satan). The object was to provide a program for others that would raise the bar on even getting into that level of student membership Lucifer and his associates had to meet to get into their student level membership. If they could ward off the Luciferian influences on them they would have overcome what the Luciferians fell away because of. I believe TI and DO did indicate the lessons were regulated. In fact once we moved away from Salt Lake City because TI and DO felt the strength of the lower forces was too much to subject their students to any longer than they had.

Another example of the regulated strength of the lesson plan. I had had two major bouts with sensuality before the one in which I fell from. I can recall writing to Do how I felt I learned from one of them that I could never assume I have good control over my thoughts and actions. That sort of confidence is deadly as then you can be caught off guard – let one’s guard down instead of keeping one’s amour up all the time regardless of whether or not one thinks they need it. They always need it. If we drop our guard then we are exposing a vulnerability and it can be as subtle as a thought allowed into one’s mind that previously they kept out. In many cases one gets more than one chance to lock one’s door to their mind and actions but it seems the Next Level can raise the flood gates a little more to have more bombardment to deal with so to stimulate the development and exercise of more strength of mind to combat, ward off, extinguish from our mind.

So there wouldn’t be a plan for someone to fail but there certainly could be a plan to increase that potential to some as a training exercise they could use to advance to their next station of service if/when they succeeded. However, TI and DO did speak about feeling there could have been one or more students who they referred to as “advanced humans,” as opposed to Student level members of the Next Level returning for their final exam to become an Adult Member in the Next Level. I suspect this talk could be found on one of the early audio tapes as it was in a meeting they talked briefly about this. I remember it as I recall wondering if I was one. It doesn’t really matter. None of us are limited in our pace of growth. We can ask to have all the stops pulled out for maximum growth and then can ask to let up on that growth some so we can garner more strength. TI and DO said this about bombardment – if we felt it was too much ask the Next Level to relax it some.

– “Sixth/sixty years (threescore) and two weeks shall anointed (Messiah) be destroyed (cut off)” – as interpreted before, this seems to refer to both a 60 year period of time and the time of the Sixth Trumpet’s sounding when the FIRST Graduates exited. This depiction of the “anointed” (Messiah) being “cut off” also described as being “destroyed” or “consumed” and as part of their “covenant” the “oath and bargain” they took to fulfill that entailed “cutting flesh” – which is related to how the harvest is depicted as cutting the stalk – the human body – down to release the fruit – spread the seeds as took place in March of 1997 when Do (Messiah) and 38 + 4 student layed down their human lives to their death to be “born of spirit.”

Referring to Messiah Prince, where prince is also translated to a “captain, commander, ruler, noble” is echoed as referring to “Michael the Archangel as an archangel is a “captain of angels” and is described as being the Rev 12 Woman’s Son/offspring she births to the Throne and then he goes to war, depicted as Michael the Archangel against the Dragon, Lucifer and his associates who fell with him and since him.

The “people (flock) prince” would then seem to be the “remnant” who “depart, come against, go down into war” (come) in the “city” which is depicted for this time in Rev 12:17 and Rev 13:7 which is the “cleansing” (sanctuary) “process” (end) from the “deluge, outrage – gushing inundation (flood) that is followed (after) by a “battle” (war- Armageddon – Rev 16) that brings about desolation, makes astonied (waste).

There are certainly variances to all these interpretations but they have the same end result. Those who seek to give their lives in service to TI and DO and don’t side with the BEAST become the target of those who do side with the BEAST and they bring about the end – death of the remnant and that is part of their “cleansing process” to experience.

This seems to also relate to Dan 12:7 where that “power of the holy people” is scattered, break in pieces, broken, caused to be discharged, dispersed and overspread then the time that had provided their power will be finished – done as said in Rev 16:7, said as “done” which is at the time of the pouring out of the 7th and last angels vial into the air, which is followed by the biggest earthquake ever that splits the U.S. into three part brings down mountains which may be referring to the governments but also the land masses as every island also goes away which may be related to the large object that is thrown into the sea, I suspect into the Atlantic that totally annihilates the east coast islands to include Manhattan and Long Islands.

Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Regarding the usage of “midst” seems to also have something to do with the timing of the provision of the “Backside Little book (bible) as the task to provide it’s information seems to be expressed as a “messenger” (angel) “flying in the midst (middle) of heaven.” In other words this would seem to be the issuing of the instruction from the Older Members to provide it’s content:

Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

This can potentially relates to the next verse in Dan 9:27 referred to as a “covenant confirmation” for a week – the 7 seals/affirmation periods, but specifically saying this confirmation was to take place in the “midst or middle” of the “7 seals (sevening which would be the 4th Seal which is about to start with the next election of a president of the U.S. – that is the BEAST the Dragon is sitting on and the mouthpiece for, from an invisible standpoint as the Luciferian space aliens know well how to manipulate the spirit world and through physical space alien activity in the U.S. since the 1940’s. Plus another way of looking at “midst of heaven” can be shown to refer to the “first heaven” vicinity which is moreorless the atmosphere around the earth that extends miles away from earth as it is where certain satellites are orbiting. If they can orbit they are still within the earth’s gravitational atmosphere. If and when any of the satellites lose their power they would eventually drop down to earth rather that be lost in deep space. The Midst of Heaven can also be referring to the “world wide web” – the internet, these days also referred to the way many corporations are storing their programs and data on the “cloud” termed the icloud or internet-cloud.

The provision of this time of covenant confirmation in the middle of the week, starting essentially at the 4th seal causes a “slaughter” (sacrifice) that to those victimized is their sacrifice of their human lives by their hand which is their “tribute and offering apportioned, gift, present (oblation)” to the Next Level Older Members TI and DO, which is shown during the time of the 5th seal’s opening to continue into or even mostly take place. Remember, our vehicle isn’t what is harvested. It’s the vehicle we use to strengthen our Mind that is what we fill our Soul with, receiving our Mind from our Older Member’s Mind by abiding by all He/They give us to think, say and do that brings about a cleaning of our vehicle to make us worthy to be a “bride” to our Older Member.

It is after that “battle” which is not really a battle for the Next Level, but it does conclude the battle for souls that is being depicted in this last part of verse 27 that those who are worshiping human and human equivalent space alien god’s are turned into waste to complete (consummate) with what was decided to be poured out on the humans that have become waste (desolate) recorded as the Lake of Fire – possibly a great deal of volcanic lava flows.

The upcoming 4th Seal opening that includes the provision of the revealing of the remaining prophecy based mysteries comes at the end of the time of the 3rd Seal’s opening and demonstrates the abomination as the height of human’s portraying themselves in many ways as “God” that includes the “worship” of Human achievements and intellect and technologies – all an abomination to the Next Level as they ignore or just pay lip service to the One True Kingdom of God who created everything and all the life forms. And because of the human kingdom leaders taking this position with or without religious and/or spiritual affiliations all who side with them are seen by the Next Level as “waste” (desolation). Simultaneously we see the U.S. and the E.U. – the Two Beasts, Big and Small STANDING in the once HOLY Place, in the way they have placed themselves as the Global Leaders and literally by “taking a stand” in the former geographic location where the Next Level began the current civilizational “garden” experiment – the Middle East. Many foreign armies and air forces, etc. surround the former Kingdom of Israel and with the nation of Israel consider themselves “God” though they often talk as if they are servants to the One True God which whether they know it or not is a propaganda tactic to lure those who still have a remnant of belief in the real “God” to their side – a deceitful tactic spawned by the Luciferian Space Aliens.

Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
Mrk 13:14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

TI & DO The Father & “Jesus” Heaven’s Gate UFO Two Witnesses – Section IV.D.1.The Seven Seal Openings-Fourth Seal – Second Beast (E.U.-Daniel 7 Little Horn w/2 Lambs in Appearance Only)

February 15, 2017


Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of ((out of, from, by, away from)) the earth ((ge= country, region, occupants, soil)); and he had two horns like ((similar (in appearance or character), manner)) a lamb ((a Christ [one who has given up their life overcoming the human kingdom for the Kingdom of Heaven])), and he spake as ((which how, like, to wit, with all speed)) a dragon ((drakon= fabulous kind of serpent)).

Rev 13:12 And he exerciseth ((4160 poieo= make, band together, bring forth, commit, content, continue, agree, appoint, avenge)) all the power ((ability, privilege, capacity, competence, freedom, mastery, superhuman, strength, right)) of the first beast before him, and causeth ((4160 – poieo)) the earth ((1093 ge= countries)) and them which dwell therein to worship ((kiss the hand of, serve like a dog)) the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

These descriptions seem to be spot on with the “little horn” and how it has “eyes” – The Holy See – the Holy Roman Catholic empire’s hierarchy and/or the European origin Masonic “all seeing eye” from the far east “third eye” shown to be of the mindset of the founders of the U.S. as seen inside the dollar bill’s pyramid.

Dan 7:8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

Another indication of the identity of this other Beast is in Daniel’s dream/vision reference to how “before” this time of the emergence of this other Beast, three of the first Beasts ten horns (Dan 7:7 documents for this context), though is often referenced here in the Revelations, really points to England, France and Spain’s (including in lessor ways; Italy, Belgium, the Netherlands – the Dutch from Holland) various claims and colonies on North America that were all three uprooted from North America by significant wars in the foundation of the U.S.

Also, this second Beast comes out of the human kingdom on/from earth. Like the first U.S. Beast it’s development began at about the same time though at a different pace, but essentially it seems as a result of the emergence of the space aliens from their underground prison cells (bottomless pit), as first shown in Rev 9.

Here is a little summary of that part of Rev 9: It describes “locusts with tails that sting like scorpions.” Whenever tail is used, it often has to do with, in this case indicating these are creatures that procreate like mammals, which we know is of primary interest to the space aliens. Also in the abduction reports most were put into a type of comatose state of semi-consciousness but had no capacity to run or fight back (though there are exceptions, that did still have a capacity to resist), but they were made into the walking dead for the time, no doubt through the use of some type of drug, even administered with a “beam of light” hitting them, as was described by Travis Walton as “blue” and  a similar report from Credo Mutwa and others. It’s interesting in the Travis Walton as reported by his companions who observed some of his abduction, a beam of light seemed to pick his body up and pull it into the spacecraft. That’s particularly interesting as one of a number of indications that this “second Beast” does great wonders including “making fire come down from heaven on earth in the sight of men” from Rev 13:13 and the name of Travis Waltons book and/or made for television movie I believe was “Fire from the sky” – sky is another translation for Greek ouranos with it’s equivalent as “heaven.”

The timeline of these events of the emergence of this second Beast is like most all prophecy in stages – degrees of application starting in this case of Rev 9 in the 1940’s and 1950’s but demonstrating these characteristics in the decades thereafter and seemingly brought to a head some time after the first Beast’s head wound is healed which shows as when the U.S. seemingly recovers from the two falls of the 9/11 attacks and the global financial crisis of 2009. But these “wonders” are technological and some of the space aliens had spacecraft with these facilities, though related to this second Beast, humans seem to now have developed some of the same technologies. Russia recently announced having a beam weapon they could use to disable anything that uses electronics. The range of operation is the greatest challenge though.

They are described as on “horses dressed for battle” which sounds like primitive (compared to Next Level) spacecrafts, and are said to have the “faces of men (humans)” with “hair like women,” perhaps depicting females and/or males with long hair.

This is interesting in the light of the report of a Swiss man named Billy Meier who reported in 1975 he met face to face with a human looking female space alien named Semjase who had hair down to her waist and said they came from a star system just past what we call the Pleiades. Billy’s first encounters were claimed to start in 1942 when he was 5 years old, a common claim from contactees and abductees to start with them when they are very young. It is interesting that many of the abductees and contactees say their captors say they came from primarily the same star systems as see noted in the book of Job:

Job 9:9 Which maketh Arcturus, Orion, and Pleiades, and the chambers of the south.
Job 38:31 Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?

Also, Meier in 1963 said he discovered what he said were ancient Aramaic scrolls in a tomb south of the Old City of Jerusalem. From them he wrote a book called the Talmud Jmmanuel that claims to be the original teachings and life events of Jmmanuel who Meier says is the same one who was called Jesus Christ. I have reviewed parts of it as it was written in German but certain parts were translated to English and it seems to be another spiritualized distortion/dilution that can be put alongside the Urantia book.

Also in some of the pictures from other abductees and contactees there were at times some that looked like “grays” but when they had problems with their victim (who often later thought themselves elevated to a “chosen one” contactee) they brought in a more human looking being that sometimes was illustrated as a male with long hair who would put them at ease. These became referred to as Nordics and that is especially interesting as they were mostly related to the Scandinavian European countries that are now mostly part of the EU.


1) One horn seems to be the Tibetan Dalai Lama as the biggest figurehead that has attracted many New Agers to, in both north America and Europe that has spawned many associated movements and practices. Offshoots who often align with the Dalai Lama and Tibetan Buddhism, if not culturally, by adopting their thinking and techniques include many Space Alien contactees, abductees bearing hybrid children who become channels and leaders of believers. Some think of themselves as a returned Maitreya, considered to be a title of some equivalence to, “Christ” in Buddhist eschatology that does have some similarities, but all and all seems to be another “copy.” However, the source of this Buddhist thinking/behaviors, lessons may have stemmed from the work of an Older Member from the Next Level, as Do indicated was possible because of similar doctrine of renunciation of the world and conquering of the senses, etc. and because Jesus said he had another “fold” he was to attend to after he left via his “cloud.”

Northern European New Agers seem to have been especially gravitated to Buddhist influences, and some of those are focused on a belief in the returning Maitreya. There are a number of Space Alien contactees that have even shared information that is kin to Buddhist ideas – and of course it’s predecessor religion Hinduism. Rael is a prime example of a leader of some 65,000 Raelians (they claim) worldwide who claims space aliens, even some with the names Satan and Lucifer, whom Rael reports he met face to face during one episode, were the Book of Genesis Elohim and thus created all humans and also created Jesus. Rael currently uses the title, “Maitreya” and he may be the biggest European manifestation of this “horn.” It’s interesting that those same two Space Aliens who told Rael this, also said they didn’t create the planets, which according to the Genesis account that Moses wrote was created by the Elohim as well, which then becomes confirmation as to who these Space Aliens are. They are the Fallen Angels who did engineer or propagate and hybridize their seed with human seed to produce those called the Nephilim who could be considered the “tares” Jesus spoke about, the seed from the enemy sown in the same “field” of the garden as Their “wheat/corn seed” was sown.

Regards to the Maitreya portrayal, there is another who has for many years gone by the name Benjamin Crème who has an organization called “Share International” who says there is an India born Englishman who is the Maitreya but who isn’t going to show his proof of that until the world has fallen to a certain condition of degradation that he will then save humanity from, as I generally understand it.

Another who claims some spiritual elite status is Billy Meier and there are various believers in him who became channel’s of the Luciferian Space Alien souls and/or discarnates known as Pleiadians. There are many others to include Aetherian and Arcturan contactees and groups which have formed around them, some of which also have contactees who insinuate or directly say they are the return of Jesus (what I heard on a meeting tape implied by Alex Collier and from reports of what David Icke said when he first came on the public scene) or say they are both the return of Jesus and the Buddha, especially in the case of Rael.

David Icke, a contactee who I’ve read a little about said or implied he was the return of Jesus. Most of these seem to gravitate most to Hindu and Buddhist beliefs and practices thinking that traveling to Tibet and India is a way to reach for further enlightenment along with certain yogic practices. They seem to have in common believing in the practice of meditation, they suggest if everyone did would bring about world peace through the idea some have called the “100th monkey.” That’s saying as soon as the 100th one did something the entire community would just begin doing it. I don’t deny there could be truth to that, except it’s really happened in reverse to where most are pro killing whatever they see as their enemy and even doing so in the name of their “god” who of course is a “false god” – the IMAGE or copy or facsimile of the Real Members of the Next Level.

I would say most of these don’t generally acknowledge the presence of a real being named Lucifer who because of his agenda to get off the planet stimulates further efforts among humans to develop their sciences and technologies to where human’s death and destruction and coveting of resources and those who suffer because of, become “collateral damage,” as we also see certain humans talk of, they use to justify their killing of civilians in their various warring.

These New Agers generally replace the fact that there are Living Beings who designed everything. Instead they promote thinking of the creation in nebulous ways removing the Chief of Chiefs (what TI and DO called the Oldest Member of the Next Level) with his being a “Cosmic Consciousness” or “Universal Mind” or “Oneness” no one need answer to as an authority over us and all of the creation, replacing the reality of the many membered kingdom that created the Earth for a purpose to grow souls upon who can graduate from their human condition to the idea that we are already living eternally in spirit form in an endless cycle of reincarnation or that we can overcome the world without appealing to Older Members from the Next Level to achieve eternal life as a spirit and not have to return to incarnate again. It’s telling how the two webmasters of the web site have seemed to adopt quite a few of these frames of thought as their new philosophy, while portraying themselves as the authority over all the information TI and DO and Crew left behind for us.

For example this view of “endless reincarnation” (according to reports from the interviews given by webmaster and former student of TI and DO, named Mrc, in the group, who was instructed by Do to leave the group in 1987 for not wanting to abide by all the lesson steps talks like this, while they say they are also working for TI and DO, turning into quite the contradiction since TI and DO never even insinuated such a concept  in all their tapes and writings and what I personally heard from being with them for a combined 19 years.

These former students are the very ones who are maintaining the web site Do and Crew set up and gave them as a task to keep up. This and many other things they say (presuming both are of one mind in their statements as they no longer use names) in their interviews are seeming to move far away from TI and DO’s Mind that I can bring a great deal of evidence for saying. However, they can still change as can we all when we learn about how we have gotten off the straight and narrow.

But here are links to the blog posts I made to try to bring more truth to what they provided in their interviews:

Sawyer’s Critique of Heaven’s Gate Webmasters Interview with

Sawyer’s Critique of Heaven’s Gate Webmasters Interview with
Sawyer’s Critique of Heaven’s Gate Webmasters Interview with

TI and DO spoke of how Lucifer gradually slipped to become more and more separately thinking from his Older Members until he didn’t even know he was separate from them. TI said he still knows the Chief exists but he so resents being jailed on earth that he is bent on battling against the Next Level even though he was given many chances to change. I have to wonder if one of those two webmasters is so resentful of being told to leave the class because of his not wanting to embrace the lesson referred to as “I could be wrong” that is behind his reason to withhold about 266 more audio meeting tapes Do made from 1985 to 1997.

These new age contactees often quote a tiny few of the things Jesus said to the general public, often focusing on two verses where Jesus says, (out of context), “The Kingdom of God is within you” where within meant both that it starts as a seed put in each human vehicle, but then that receiver fosters to grow and allows to be nurtured. Another quote describes how the incarnate Older Member comes from the Kingdom of God as one of it’s Representatives “from among you” (which is also the way Moses said one like him would return), used to justify an earth origin to the returning Rep’s incarnation. Another is where Jesus said, “God is a Spirit” which is synonymous with how TI and DO said that every Member of the Next Level was a Mind to where a Mind is the stuff that they have filled their Soul container with and that they are still physical beings because of but use physical vehicles they grow on vines to wear like a human would wear a special suit for a special task like as astronaut or diving suit. What Jesus seemed to mean by saying that, was that Next Level members were not seen and like said are composed of their Older Member’s Mind which is synonymous with the term, “spirit.”

These often focus on Jesus’ call for peace ignoring that he meant as a behavior among others, while not meaning contentment and inner peace in ourselves as within ourselves he wanted us to have “salt” which as one of it’s main properties was that of a great enemy to bacteria to preserve life while enhancing it’s value:

Mar 9:50 Salt is good: but if the salt have lost his saltness, wherewith will ye season it? Have salt in yourselves, and have peace one with another.

2) The other of the Two Horns of this second Beast would then be the latest and perhaps last New Agey styled Pope Francis as the leader of the Holy See state, the Holy Roman Catholic Church that is over the Vatican City State, who to date preaches an ecumenical doctrine now that has very little to do with anything Jesus stood behind except for rhetoric of feeding the poor while he sits on one of the wealthiest banks in the world, that is every bit as much a corporate profiteer/capitalist as exist in any of the strictly secular states and entities in the world. The position of Pope was separated from being in command of the Vatican Bank legalistically but with his Cardinals remains it’s head. His talk that boils down to a One World Religion and One World government is right up Lucifer and his associate fallen angel’s alley to have a One World Order. Pope Francis does seem to want to emphasize the plight of the poor and has taken a strong stand on “healing the earth,” at least in rhetoric, but perhaps with his chemistry background is also convinced that the climate change is as he said “mostly man made.” On May 1, 2013 he said, “The book of Genesis tells us that God created man and woman entrusting them with the task of filling the earth and subduing it, which does not mean exploiting it, but nurturing and protecting it, caring for it through their work.” I believe what was meant by “subduing it” really meant “overcome/conquer” the lower evolutionary levels of behaviors and ways.

But perhaps the biggest clue that Pope Francis in his focus on the poor is literally neglecting teaching the most important teachings of Jesus is how he is quoting only the things Jesus taught the general public that he mostly spoke in parables – stories about so they would NOT SEE:

Luk 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.

They, the general public were not ready to see and hear the full truth. It would have been too challenging to them and they would have fell prey to the lower forces more easily and would have fed the forces against him. His 3 1/2 year ministry wouldn’t have lasted even that long I imagine before he would have been thrown out for sounding like a babbling idiot or possessed by devils all the more. Of course some and probably many Jewish leaders demonstrated they did think those thoughts – it was just less which afforded him more time to help his students, who he did reveal some mysteries to, further opportunity to draw everything from him they could, so they could stand for him when he left and in so doing be sacrificing their physical life which would be their ticket to their next grade in school at graduation time upon his incarnate return. (dying isn’t the ticket by the way – service to their Older Member that will result in their death is their ticket. It’s just a different focus. There are plenty of people that give their life for another and that can have it’s merit but to graduate one must not be giving their life for their own sense of self importance as a martyr that they feel makes them a spiritual hero or some sort of thing in the eyes of others. That’s a distortion. TI and DO always said theirs was “not a martyr trip.”

To top this off, Jesus said upon return he would no longer be talking in parables thus to still be preaching the parables is like sharing maybe 9th grade lessons when it’s at the least 11th or 12th grade time when those in the 11th and 12th grades with Jesus would at this time be graduating. This dilution is also seen in many churches around the lands to where they teach the parables and miracles and even the Old Testament toddler lesson plans. It’s not like those are bad things to teach but the priority could be preparing people for the return by sharing with them the things Jesus shared with his disciples that he didn’t talk to the general public about.

TI and DO said Lucifer likes “order” in his kingdom so if you break that order, you end up in one of “Lucifer’s jails” – the various governmental prison systems. Together these Two Beasts are leading the social and technological aspects of the war of Armageddon which for the Next Level is really a battle for souls between the Luciferian space aliens and the Next Level that humans are the Luciferian pawns of, though some can see through and results in their rebellion and separation from allegiance to either of these two Beasts.

Rev 13:13 And he doeth great wonders ((4592 semeion= sign, wonder, token, mark, prodigy, portent)), so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
Rev 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell ((house permanently)) on the earth (by the means of those) miracles ((4592 semeion= sign, wonder, token, mark, prodigy, portent)) which he had power to do in the sight ((in the face, presence, before)) (of the) beast; saying ((to lay forth, relate)) to them that dwell ((house permanently)) on the earth, that they should make an image ((1504 eikon from eiko 1503; a likeness, (literally) statue, profile, or as a figure [even an actual Hologram like Fatima]) representation, resemblance, akin to being weak or a faintness as a copy)) to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

The context of who performs these “great wonders aka miracles, (Luciferian signs)” is from the perspective of this “other Beast” of prey, organizations of humans’ (mammals) countries, institutions and corporations of the E.U. who like the larger Beast the U.S. are now in various ways under the influence of the Luciferian space aliens and those who carry their seed (misinformation mind).

By the way, it’s the false Christs (false anointed ones and/or false Christians) and false prophets (speakers/teachers) that show these “great wonders” and “miracles,” not the once incarnate Two Witnesses nor their “Active Students.” (That’s a phrase Jwnody wrote on Do’s behalf that referred to his students that he indicated new believers should try to “connect with” in he and TI’s physical incarnate absence. I suspect he said that to cover his bets, should he leave before his student body, something he always considered could happen. Then new believers would know to seek out those Active Students.)

Mrk 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.

Rev 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

This is why one was not going to see the Two Witnesses, bringing on plagues like Moses did nor calling fire down from heaven as Elijah did. Those were listed as their characteristics because it was to show they had the same authority. TI and DO wondered at times why they didn’t seem to have powers like that. They knew they were those in the prophecy and there were times they thought about trying them out, which they said somewhat humorously as they recognized that wasn’t really their role at this time. They didn’t abide by what prophecy said. They used it for clues of what they knew they were being fed in information. By the way, they said they would both receive the same impressions at the same time that they would only recognize when they came together and checked with one another when they felt something was coming in. This way, it was a check system so one wasn’t really leading. They worked as a partnership though Do knew TI was his Older Member and yielded if the came upon something that seemed to differ though often it didn’t really differ except in how they each registered it. They had different brains so in talking about what they were receiving they would talk about them differently at times and that was useful as Do had a closer interface with the student body where TI had a closer interface with Do and was more distant from the student body. Relating with the student body was primarily Do’s task to perform which is part of why TI left before him.

The great “wonders, miracles, signs, tokens, marks, prodigy, portents” are all on the human level and thus earth based and are things what TI and DO called “tricks” the Luciferian space aliens stimulate to try to fool people into thinking they are God or that God was them all along. They are also technologies that have been gleaned from or provided from the space aliens to humans while are also being developed or the subject of experiments to create that are giving rise to more and more advancements in all fields that are to humans WONDROUS to observe and/or be a part of developing. However in the context of this EU beast, European based technological developments and apparent space alien activity put’s front and center the many wondrous experiments in atomic and sub atomic particle and energy physics at CERN, the “Council European Research Nuclear” known the most for it’s Large Hadron Collider (LHC) that is geared to create antimatter by powering atoms to smash into one another at incredible speeds and then watching the sub atomic results that they recently feel demonstrated the existence of antimatter as described as the Higgs Boson particle.

More directly related to “fire from Heaven” is the CAST telescope recently installed that uses dipole magnets and pipes associated with the LHC that generates x-rays into the Sun looking to discover “axions” that they think will explain subtle differences between matter and antimatter in processes involving the weak force but not the strong force they think can make up dark matter. Now I don’t pretend to understand all that except that dark matter in my thinking is what TI said was “frequency.” Human scientists are talking about this as parallel universes – in existence all the time which one can imagine if we knew how to turn on and off, one could make matter invisible yet still have mass as Jesus demonstrated and TI and DO said could make it so there could be even another civilization on a planet we think is barren but we can’t see them because they are on a different frequency our brain/eyes Mind has not developed to be able to see/comprehend.

Another project is called the High Luminosity LHC which is a cutting edge Tesla superconductor quadrupole magnet and incidentally 2015 they, related to the United Nations EU headquarters in Geneva, Switzerland declared to be the “International Year of Light” (Fire?).

“Fire from heaven” in it’s most base understanding would involve the sun and the significant production of heat these experiments generate that are all doing very wondrous things on a huge scale relative to human achievements to date. Some people think they are going to create a black hole.

I have suspected for a long time that one primary desire for these particle accelerators is to try to create new elements that could be used to manufacture an element that would provide an anti-gravity field that could become the energy source of a spacecraft to just lift away from the planet instead of having to thrust our way into space as has been shown to exist in some of the crashed or provide space alien crafts.

As a side note, I can imagine that one of the ways the Next Level might have grounded the Luciferian space alien fallen angels was by knowing they had a very limited supply of the element needed to power their spacecrafts or by making changes in the sun’s output so that those elements no longer stay charged as long or as well or with as much force as they once had. I’m just guessing of course. By giving humans some spacecrafts as reported by Bob Lazar and others, the Next Level were helping humans see the possibilities so they could figure out how duplicate them and the elements that power their engines and generate the anti-gravity field. I don’t know if the Next Level did provide these crafts in tact enough to provide much data on this, but it seems the Luciferian space aliens did foster facsimile UFO crashes after initial Next Level staged crashes at the Plains of St. Augustine near Roswell, New Mexico, Aztec, New Mexico and Laredo, Texas, in other U.S. southwest and other locations and also in England known as the Bentwaters incident and at least one in a northern, remote are of the Soviet Union.

Do indicated the Luciferian fallen angel space aliens might not have the expertise nor tools/labs, mining and refining systems available so need humans to develop the technologies they need to use to try to escape from their prison on earth. If they do get humans to escape and they tag along with them in their spirit form and/or with some of those they nurtured to be their pawns then I doubt they will get very far and may not survive very long – like on Mars, for instance. NASA just announced a program looking for people to colonize Mars. G.W. Bush had announced this project during a state of the union address in one of his last years as president so this is not new and his announcement came days after China announced colonizing Mars and the Moon. The Luciferians know a lot about what’s possible, having had experience with what Do called “elementary service” in the Next Level, so they can point humans in the right directions.

Lasers are another way to look at “fire come down from heaven (sky/outer space).” As said 2015 is the International Year of Light as declared by the U.N. which combines activities of both Beasts (US and EU) with it’s bases in NYC and Geneva, Switzerland. During this year there have been successful use of lasers to deliver video communications from both the International Space Station (ISS) and a the European Space Agencies (ESA) probe on the moon which is many times faster than previous transfer mediums. Laser surgeries are now routine and use for weaponry.

Further wonders are in progress in the area of cloning and bio-engineering, growing human organs, even having ways of automating their design, called “3D printing.” A device has all the components within it that outputs a mesh shape of an organ that used stem cells genetically engineered to grow flesh over the mesh and that has been accomplished for some organs.

Interestingly, it was in Rael’s book, the Frenchman UFO contactee who started the Raelian religion, that he reports being shown on board one of their crafts a computer that two beings named Lucifer and Satan described as a cloning device. The premise was they could take a piece of one’s forehead bone and put it in the computer and it would produce a clone of the person at a younger age they then could take over, presumably when their existing body died. They told him that they “outlived planets” in this way. By the way they said they didn’t create the planets though they claim to be the Elohim “Lord” in Genesis who created humans. I later realized they might not be lying but are mixing up the story so that they were indeed the fallen angels that created the hybridization program or just had sexual reproduction with the “daughters of humans” to seed the ones called Nephilim who became very mighty and even giants physically who ended up being very violent and seems to even feed off of humans prompting the Next Level to choose to wipe them all out and start over, thus the Noah flood. But it’s interesting that Rael went on to found a company called Clonaid that clones animals and Rael though he claims to be the returned Maitreya and/or Christ claims there is no Kingdom of God and that all humans came from his space aliens and that technological development is the solution to all the worlds problems – which amounts to yet another type of “false idol” worship.

I’ve read that South Korea excels in organ manufacturing (and by the way cloning of animals) technology which I became aware of having application for already, when I saw a report of a new city like facility being built under the cover of a ski resort in what is called the Northeast Kingdom area of Vermont. They were describing the businesses they were drawing to the facility and one was a South Korean human organ manufacturer. To me that was some icing on the cake of what was really intended for this facility, having an airport and entire infrastructure planned and in development subsidized in part by Federal monies like the recent shift to a digital wireless electric company monitoring throughout the state. All this in a very rural sparsely populated area, though a stones throw from the state capital of Montpelier that I remind has at statue of the goddess Ceres on it’s statehouse. I would venture to gamble such a facility is being installed nearby every big city in the U.S. and no doubt Europe and probably throughout the world, for the leaders of the countries and their rich backers to literally buy quarters within in the event of a need to flee underground from any number of regional and/or global-wide catastrophic events or uprisings or wars. The Next Level may allow certain ones to survive their spading, recycling as indicated in prophecy so they can be used as catalysts for the growth of those who survive this judgment time the Souls who don’t show their allegiance to the Beast or it’s Image (Spirituality, even to a hologram like Fatima).

Drawing fire from the heavens can also refer to doing things in the atmosphere of Earth that can stimulate thunder and lightening storms. There has been considerable indications of this with the talk of NASA’s project Blue Beam and the HAARP project in Alaska that as one of it’s missions is weather modification using an array of antenna that transmit frequencies anywhere on the planet that can be made to affect the planets electromagnetic field and potentially stimulate storms or perhaps a reduction of the way that field is a shield against the suns solar wind. If that shield is altered or disrupted, perhaps also related to the ozone layer more of that solar wind can get to the surface. CERN maybe engaged in some of this as well. And there are new plans for even bigger facilities in all these respects all over the globe.

As fire is related to Hell, and Hell to the Luciferian fallen angels who are in hell in that they can not escape their fate when the Next Level is done with using their desire to combat the Next Level, they are also drawn with their space alien descendents and human pawns to the earth that includes the fact that they will be judged by “fire” – cast into the “lake of fire,” perhaps a multiple pronged strategy of recycling using both forces outside the earth as in the Sun and forces inside the earth as the molten core that we see in the last decade being stimulated in volcanic eruptions. Mt. Etna, is one that has continued to show slight activity but could be one of many that could all create “lakes of fire” when the Next Level is “done”

Further development of radioactive elements into energy systems and propulsion systems are yet another example of fire from heaven, with heaven meaning from what the space aliens provided the Nazi’s in the mid 1940’s however they did that, possibly related to excursions to and discovery of a hidden underground lake in the continent of Antarctica. One could imagine that any sizable object hitting any ocean would cause many times the damage of what happened in Fukashima, Japan from a tsunami stimulated by an ocean earthquake. And with the many nuclear reactor sites on coasts that would have their cooling systems destroyed by flooding could cause many meltdowns that would further pollute any ocean or waterways they are built on to create ocean sized “lakes of fire.”

Re: “image” – In a literal way, a Luciferian hologram like Fatima. Generally speaking, what TI and DO called a “facsimile, copy,” something that was “not real and didn’t exist” and referred to humans with Luciferian misinformation that way because being filled with misinformation means no possibility to avoid being recycled thus not existent. We can recall that the Lord told Moses his names as “I Am” or “I exit” or “Existing One” (Jehovah) and that Israel meant “one who prevails as Jehovah,” thus overcomes through adhering to the instructions aka commandments from Jehovah that enables their “existence” where otherwise all else is a non-existent representation, resemblance of what exists, a likeness which is how those before Adam and Eve were referred to have been created male and female “like” in appearance and quality to the Elohim – existing ones – the Governors or Chief Administrator of the Earth garden as Do referred to TI as one time.

Thus this “image” is anything that is portrayed as Above Human that is not or that puts humans on a pedestal they are not on, or the working for Spirits, discarnates, space aliens, religions, so called spiritual teachers, Christian Evangelicals, Channelers, Artists put on a pedestal, Science and scientists who are seen as can do no wrong, etc. Since this is used as one of the conditions of judgment of who is “saved” from the recycling and who is not, equating with worshiping (serving, working for) either/or the Beasts and/or “it’s image,” as in Rev 14:9-11 and 15:2. These who work for the Beasts and/or their Image(s) are also those who suffer the consequences of the FIRST ANGEL’S POURING OUT OF THEIR VIAL on the earth that starts and is ongoing as shown in Rev 16:2, but has stages of application to the “Great Day of the Wrath of the Lord” during the time of the 6th Seal.

Rev 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath ((passion, breathing hard)) of God, which is poured out ((2767 kerannumi=filled [also translated as; “to mix, or pour out as for drinking,” but considering the next word is related to being unmixed, undiluted, it seems the “filled” option might be more contextual])) without mixture ((194 akratos= full strength, undiluted)) into the cup of his indignation ((3709 orge= movement, agitation of the soul [stimulation towards growth, the “salt” each prospective member of the Next Level needs to have, aka “thirst” for the behavior and ways of the Older Members], the natural disposition, desire (as a reaching forth or excitement of the mind),  vengeance and punishment [reaping what was sown], anger [at the effort to turn people away from the truth about the Kingdom of Heaven and it’s Older Members in that Next Level Above Human])); and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

Notice the language of “pouring out,” which is applied to how wine is mingled to fill one’s vessel (cup) – one’s lot – chosen direction in life, that in the application in the resulting receipt of that “wine” (mind as instructions from the Next Level to implement) delivery gushes out, is shed abroad or forth as in distributed when the disclosure (voice) is give. The aspect said as “without mixture” or undiluted, when examined in a number of translations is said as “full strength” which is indicative that it won’t be spread out nearly as much in severity and frequency and scope as it has been up until this point.

One will note throughout history major natural disasters are sporadic even throughout most of the 1900’s, with few in the territory of the U.S., though quite large when they hit (New Madrid, San Francisco, Galveston, etc.) But since the mid to late 1990’s a noticeable increase in earthquakes (Japan, China, Indonesia, Iran, Chili, Haiti, Italy and of late Rome, etc.), tsunami’s (Sumatra, Japan (Fukashima)), tornadoes (Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma and Texas, some a mile wide), hurricane’s (Katrina, Sandy, Irene, Matthew), drought and subsequent forest or range fires (Colorado, Oklahoma, Montana and California), huge hailstones the size of softballs and/or hard enough to break through thin metal roof tops on sheds, massive fish and bird die offs, famines, genocidal wars (Rwanda), State, even illegal waged wars (Afganistan, Iraq) and foreign and domestic terrorism events, heightened volcanic activity including eruptions (Hawaii, Alaska, Mt. Etna in Italy, Chili, Mount St Helens, Yellowstone and others most focused on the area of the planet spoken of as the “ring of fire” – the Pacific rim).

Therefore what this verse is indicating is an increase to full strength of these plagues and calamities that seems to be in the timeline at the start of the Opening of the Sixth Seal in Rev 6:11-17, yet indicating some will still be able to “stand” for the Kingdom of God/Heaven, Next Level, TI and DO according to what they have become aware of. I suspect this time period is slated for around 2025-2032, counting 4-8 years to each Seal opening as was evidenced between Seals 1, 2 and 3. The spread of 4-8 years is because of the “days being shortened for the remaining (elect),” so it could certainly be even sooner. These were not the only considerations. The biggest one is because TI and DO indicated those in middle age around the time of his exit would see the completion of the the events in Revelations, obviously not counting the 1000 years after these calamities are “done.”

These three Seal periods in the world begin with the Bill Clinton regime that was in place until the exit of Do and Crew in 1997 so seems to coordinate with Rev 14:6’s first angel’s speaking in the “middle heaven” the true information (gospel) by Do coming out on the “internet” (starting via satellite uplink in 1993 and ending with the web site and their globally reported exit) as the return of the same Soul who was incarnate in the vehicle named Jesus, that a few years later begins the “hour of judgment” (40 year period).

The Bush regime seems to coordinate with the start of the Two Falls of Babylon in Rev 14:8 with the 9/11 attacks and the response of what I call the Endless War on (of) Terror, as Jesus said, those who live by the sword die by the sword.

The Obama regime shows the start of the second fall, set up by the time of the Bush regime for him to manage as the Global Financial Crisis, another U.S. (and allies) stimulated event to usher in the New World Order and the U.S. Secret Govt that first began to form in the 1950’s because of the Space Aliens being permitted by the Next Level to circulate among humans again. This seems to be according to the timing as noted in the second “another angel” in Rev 14:8.

The third angel of Rev 14:9 seems to mark the start of the Opening of the Fourth Seal that appears to be depicted as the Woman in Revelations chapter 17 and 18 also representing the “city” that sits on the Beast as the:

Rev 17:18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

Of course it’s not the “city” that reigns over anyone, it’s the people occupying such an entity no matter where they are located though by various descriptions may most apply to New York City and of course it’s axis to Washington D.C., Chicago to Houston to Denver and Los Angeles as main hubs.

This Rev 14:10 period is led up to through Seal openings 4 and 5, then depicted as the 7 Angels who pour out their Vials, starting with:

Rev 16:1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out ((1632 ekcheo= to pour, figuratively to bestow, gush (pour) out, run greedily (out), shed (abroad, forth), spill)) the vials ((5357 phiale= broad shallow cup)) of the wrath of God upon the earth.

Christians might say this wine (from Rev 14:10) was the Holy Spirit, which is true in that it’s the “Mind,” TI and DO equated with the term “spirit” that his pure (holy) because it’s totally real and true, but given to a world that has thrived on the misinformation mind/spirit from the Luciferians that diluted the Next Level Mind when it was “poured out” before as when Jesus came incarnate, his being the receptacle (vessel, cup) for his Father’s Holy Mind/Spirit which is the “passion” of Next Level members to provide. But when humans who have not learned and practice taking in that mind and keeping it in their vessels to be used to build their internal “Soul” container, (given them like a seed is given to the earth), then it spills out – meaning humans can’t contain themselves and their passions however they are translated according to the pattern of programming they have accepted.

If they translate that passion by going out to clubs to get high on substances and get all sexual, more of that spills out literally and as a figure. If their passion is to get even with someone or some government or people who they have seen as doing them wrong, then they can hardly contain themselves from striking out with their passion in angry ways and we see hatreds and shootings from jealousies and vengeance and bigotries of all sorts escalate. If they get rid of that passion by amassing power over others as we see in governments through military and security forces down to the police level that then spills out.

If people have bought into certain thinking that sets them above others due to their intellect or science capacity, etc., they will pour out themselves into that passion and we see increased technologies and with success in business tends to build their sense of self into a heightened stature among other humans that often because of closes their minds to anything that could challenge their view of themselves. For those that it stimulates their sense of a spiritual self, they can’t help but get all self righteous to look down on people that they don’t think have God in their life, judging them as sinners and heathen. The same is shown among those who count themselves “spiritual” teachers. They have often magnified themselves to a position that can be the equivalent of a religion’s leaders, with or without an organizational banner. Some of these consider themselves enlightened or channels for spirits they think are from a higher realm or “contactees” of space alien’s they directly or indirectly deem “gods,” some of which will subtly allude to beings significantly over them. Some of these aliens portray themselves to humans as “Space Brothers.” TI and DO talked about this as “everyone getting what they have come to believe.” Many times what people believe is actually a complete illusion so they get that illusion, that is until the Next Level recycles and then they get reality.

People often can’t help but gravitate to their own comfort zone even if it’s one of hatred and arrogance towards someone else or some other group that yield troublesome, injurious, pernicious, destructive, baneful thinking and behavior as shown in response to the first of seven of these provisions of release of the Next Level’s Mind that few have a program to translate in any other way:

Rev 16:2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome ((2556 kakos = evil, harm, ill, bad nature, mode of thinking, feeling and acting that is troublesome, injurious, pernicious, destructive, baneful)) and grievous ((4190 poneros= full of labors, annoyances, hardships, pressed and harassing, bringing toils, perilous to faith and steadfastness, causing pain and trouble, physically diseased or blind)) sore ((1668 helkos= a wound, production of discharge pus, an ulcer)) upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshiped his image. ((copy”-, facsimile of Next Level, even hologram like Fatima or Spirituality))

This becomes the main criteria of separation of those who turn to the real Next Level Beings for help, according to how they relate to the Next Level that must include showing the Older Member Living Beings in the Next Level we mean what we say and want to be in their service and grow to be in their Above Human Family as best we can understand it, so trust them to help us, which will include a separation from allegiance to humans. This is not to say, this becomes an excuse to neglect the responsibilities we have taken on in the human kingdom to one another as the Next Level uses the human kingdom as our stepping stone which is why Jesus gave the instructions he did to, in his physical absence to show our love for him and his Father and his kingdom by doing to others the way we want others to do to us and treating even those who would cause us harm with the same respectfulness knowing they don’t know any better or they wouldn’t act the way they do. But what’s important is to seek a stronger relationship with the Next Level Older Members day by day, looking for the ways they can help lead us closer to bonding further with them and there can always be a greater bond.

There is nothing to be assumed. We have to seek out what they want us to do for them. They don’t need us to do for them, but it’s the only way we can draw their mind into us and not have it spill out and be wasted. And for those that have heard about TI and DO, they must address their desires to them. To bypass the ones more recently sent to us is to deny they exist. All humans who don’t show the Next Level what they want in a relationship with Them will be those that are spoken of as the ones who have received the “mark of the beast and/or those that worship that Beasts image” meaning service self as a God or equivalent or religio-spiritual imagination or to the academy of sciences or to the institutions of higher learning, or even to an actual hologram like Fatima. It’s not that we don’t recognize things of value to those human and governmental organizations. It’s more that we don’t put any faith in them even though when we put our faith in the Next Level first, they may lead us to solutions to our problems that might take advantage of what humans have learned to do in their sciences.

It’s really as simple as getting into one’s quite place and then screaming to the Next Level (inside our heads) to allow us to become “putty in their hands” – projecting that beyond the most distant stars to not be interfered with by the space aliens or discarnate that have some circulation in the lowest part of the heavens mostly within the atmosphere of the earth.

Those who don’t seek this kind of giving of allegiance to the Next Level will be left to their own decay, but mind you, we don’t know who is or isn’t changing one hour to the next. We can tell from behavior who is not acting in Next Level ways towards others but they could be one minute acting out their spilling out of the Next Levels passion and the next minute could wake up to the fact and can seek to change in which case the Next Level will forgive them their trespasses against us, as we too want to be forgiven but then must continue to grow to have a greater capacity to keep the Next Level’s passion inside of us, converting that energy into positivity as requests for greater service and bonding with our Next Level Older Members. If we simply do the good deeds but without letting the Next Level lead us into them, then we can become tricked by then another form of the image of goodness as we see in many of the religious, though are judged person by person not by us but by the Next Level overseers.

In Rev 19:20 those who constitute the Beast and False Prophet along with those deceived by them to receive the mark of the Beast and/or “worship his image” are cast alive into a “lake of fire burning with brimstone” while the remaining meet another fate by the word of the one doing the judging at that point that results in some becoming the flesh the space aliens (fowls) feed off of. Feeding off of flesh (DNA) is exactly what the space aliens do when they abduct people to get their DNA, eggs and sperm, etc.

Rev 13:15 And he ((they)) (had) power ((1325 didomi= adventure, bestow, set, show, take, utter, deliver, smite, strike, bring forth, offer)) to give ((1325 didomi= bring forth, show, offer)) life ((4151 pneuma= spirit(-ual), current of air (etheric), mental disposition, godly, superhuman, angelic)) (unto the) image ((1504 eikon from eiko= likeness – literally a statue, profile or as a figure a representation, resemblance – an image [New Age spirituality claiming all are gods – a facsimile of the truth even in the form of a hologram like Fatima])) (of the) beast ((2342 therion= dangerous animal (human governmental organizations))), that ((hina= in order that, (denoting purpose or result), because)) the image ((spiritual facsimile of an angel/God, copying the Next Level in some way to lure humans against the Next Level)) (of the) beast (([Human Governmental Organizations])) should ((2980 laleo= to talk, preach, say, speak, tell)) both speak ((2980 laleo= to talk, preach, say, speak, tell)), and cause ((4160 poieo= make, do, agree, avenge, commit, content, fulfill, band together, bring forth)) (that as many) as would ((whosoever)) not worship ((kiss the hand of, work for, serve)) the image ((spiritual facsimile)) (of the) beast (should be) killed ((hina + apokteino= might go away, exit, be separated by dying)) .

This OTHER BEAST (EU) with it’s TWO INSTRUMENTS (HORNS) of the Holy See, currently through Pope Francis and the Dalai Lama with their religio-spiritual and even pro Space Alien talk and facsimile of Next Level allegiance, have that POWER to BRING FORTH a SPIRITUAL, ANGELIC and GODLY IMAGE – RESEMBLANCE and LIKENESS, what TI and DO called a FACSIMILE, REPRESENTATION and COPY, of/from/with THE BEAST (US) that can even be a hologram like Fatima that can “speak” that could bring about the physical death of all those they see as heretics, dissidents, anarchists and rebels because of choosing not to align with the BEAST and/or that FALSE IMAGE. It was said of this time as in times past, that people will kill others in the name of thinking they are serving God to do so for not KISSING THE HAND (serving (worship)) OF THIS BEAST and/or it’s IMAGE.

In other words, people will be deceived into giving their allegiance to the Human governments and/or spiritual thinking and practice, which could become the “winepress” for those who refuse showing that allegiance and they might even physically die “standing up for” the One True Kingdom of God (as best they know of it) but for those who do, for TI and DO.

In Rev 6:8 regarding this fourth seal it specifies “death” to identify what the one sitting on this GREEN HORSE represents in this stage in the completion of this Next Level garden project. As people are won over by the Beast and False Prophet they are deciding to accept and give their service (worship) to the Beast’s One World Government and/or One World Religion that Pope Francis seems to be heading with an ecumenical anti-Jesus (Christ) message that is even appealing to many who have come out of Catholicism and sort of merged in with modern Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam, Judaism, that all no longer resembles their founders behaviors and ways. Religions then become an IMAGE, a facsimile of the truth and coming from the Greek “pneuma” has to do with “spirit” which according to TI and DO is synonymous with “mind,” that’s either by Do’s description is either Next Level true Mind/Information or “misinformation mind.” Thus all who gravitate to that misinformational mindset, who don’t know they have made that their reality will think they are doing service to the greater good of their way of thinking of all humans being of one mind, living in peace and prosperity with equal rights and humanitarianism and environmentalism (green), global socialism, united, will be motivated to report those they see as upsetting their applecart of peace and harmony. The Next Level would have us act towards one another with peace and harmony and love. When the Older members have not been incarnate in our lifetime then being a humanitarian is the best we can do, as Jesus said of the second greatest commandment to Love you neighbor as oneself.

TI and DO did believe in a certain amount of environmentalism – having clean water, food, air, but even those things were not above looking to the Next Level for how we can serve. For instance when I was cutting tree boughs in the national forest so we could put up tents without having a tree leaning on the tent when it was our task to set up a functional camp, I walked around with Do and he would tell me which branches to cut as I was the chain saw operator (sawyer). He didn’t want to cut any more than necessary. I even did cut some he didn’t indicate but he said nothing about it, but I knew I’d slipped as that was looking to my own mind and the purpose of being in he and TI’s classroom was to adopt His/Their Mind which actually extends to every thought and behavior and way that he would give us. It was TI who instructed us to make this kind of commitment to Do or not be in the classroom.

TI and DO, as Jesus, didn’t teach having peace and harmony in the world. They said in the world you would have disharmony, stress and tribulation with your enemy even potentially being in your own household, that is if you “stand” for what they teach when put to the test, meaning you let it be known who you believe in and work for. In a sense this could look like the opposite of how the Lord had the Israelites mark their door with lambs blood so the “angel of death” would skip over their house and family. If one thinks about it with GPS (global positioning system) and the way you can go online to Google maps and literally look at many people’s actual house from the many pictures taken from the streets and air, knowledge of who is in each house is also knowable and how they think and act by their internet data and any local informants to the way they think. Then with drone technology if they think someone is a threat, according to their “orders,” then they are marked in reverse and may be sought after to get rid of in whatever way. It’s what in a real sense has been happening in Afganistan, Iraq, Yemen and Pakistan with drone strikes and it’s happened in the U.S. with the Randy Weaver and family story.

Do brought up the Randy Weaver story as an example of how some were breaking away from the world by rebelling against the status quo establishment and how it threatens the “order” the Luciferian space aliens want to keep humans maintaining. However, he didn’t condone violent rebellion.

In short, the story that became called the Ruby Ridge Standoff in Idaho came to a head on August 21st, 22nd and about 10 days after that in 1992 when U.S. Marshals killed the Weaver family’s dog, because the dog was giving away what was supposed to be the Marshall’s clandestine survey of the property, that resulted in Randy’s 14 yr. old son’s retaliation by killing the Marshall who killed the dog. That brought many law enforcement to the property and without further provocation shot Randy in the shoulder and killed Randy’s wife and house guest. The entire standoff came about because of an FBI sting operation on a white supremacist group Randy had some association with and the charge that Randy had sold the undercover FBI agent two shotguns that were sawed off shorter than the law allowed, that Randy denied but was followed by a warrant for his arrest when he didn’t show up to court to answer those charges. The government later admitted Randy was sent the wrong date for the court appearance. The FBI was trying to get Randy to lead them to the leader of the white supremacist group which Randy didn’t want to cooperate with.

Do also felt another example was with the government massacre of David Koresh’s camp Davidian group which happened under President Clinton’s watch with attorney general Janet Rio’s order to the FBI and ATF teams to attack the compound with tanks, allegedly loaded with a flammable substance they appeared to use to start a fire to burn them out that ended up killing 90 men, women and children who were hiding in a buried bus.

When Do was watching that on television’s live newscast I happened to be sitting with him in his “craft” with his two primary “helpers,” Lvvody and Jnnody and my partner Srrody, watching the compound go up in flames and burn. We were all shocked to see that happening knowing that their crime was living against the status quo system and having guns that they used when they felt they were being attacked by the authorities they felt were Luciferian driven. Do never justified the way David Koresh lived and preached and had all those young girls he had children with, but this event did stimulate Do to respecting David Koresh’s followers willingness to die for what they believed. Do wondered if his students would be that committed.

Because of that event, Do talked to us about the idea of having guns as a way to be seen as a threat to the authorities IF they chose to apprehend him/us for some reason, in case TI would have had us exit our vehicles in that way. There was no illusion in knowing that Do was on a list with the Cult Awareness Network and FBI. We didn’t buy guns at that time, but after I had left in September of 1994 they did buy a couple rifles and while they were building their “compound” in an “earthship” design that used recycled tires packed with mud for the walls, Strody, in her then nearly 60 year old female vehicle and perhaps another did some target practice.

Later Do wrote about their thinking that they didn’t know if this would be the way they exited their vehicles but it was their way to consider all ways. They compared it to the Jews that were held up in Masada as the Romans were about to massacre them and how they committed suicide en-masse also taking the lives of their young rather than be subject to the killing, rape and torture they knew they would experience at the hands of the Roman legion at their doorsteps. Do was saying that form of self-exit would have been justified by the Lord for them. For those that don’t accept the “mark of the U.S. Beast and/or it’s image” they may meet a similar fate but it will guarantee their Soul will be rewarded with a student level Next Level “made” body soon thereafter or at a future time depending on their judgment of our grade in their school.

We have plenty of evidence of what can happen when people become afraid, whether it’s seen as the fear of someone else’s beliefs or of their taking away what they have in property or livelihood or family or their own lives, according to the way they can be led into. For instance, as I was writing about this, wondering how this tribulation judgment period and it’s calamities might come to pass, which I have already touched on in many places, I was reminded by a news story of two men in Mexico who were working for a marketing firm polling people about their tortilla likes. It’s hard to know the details but the story did include quite a bit of background on these two, but they were killed by a mob who went into the jail of a community of about 60,000 and dragged these two into the street, hung them and burned their bodies because they were strangers and had been an abduction of a young girl a couple years before that and some started a rumor that these two strangers were approaching children with their questions. A mob formed and the police came and took them to jail, in part for their own safety but the mob didn’t trust the police either so took the law into their own hands as prosecutor jury and judge and executioner and when some were asked about it afterward some said that even if they weren’t guilty it sends a message for criminals and strangers to stay away from their town.

Then I saw two more reports of policemen being shot while sitting in their patrol cars, one in NY days after a black man named Eric Garner was wrestled to the ground by police and put into a choke hold that killed him while there were onlookers and that officer was not prosecuted and the accusation was Garner was selling loose cigarettes. These others were in Philadelphia and Florida and the list if very long anymore of blacks and other races but mostly minority people of color in the U.S. being profiled as criminals in need of deadly force with little to no provocation.

A woman died in police custody after she was arrested for “talking back” having at first been pulled over for not using her turn signal and the officer got irate that she would not get out of the car when he ordered her. It was all captured on the officers own video and it’s only under investigation. Like Mexico the people know that most times there is no investigation and even if there is the officers are often exonerated if it even comes to trial and even if prosecuted get some minimal sentence when they literally killed someone in their custody or without apparent probable cause.

On top of that there is a heavily armed militia group that just took over a Federal wild life refuge in Oregon saying they were taking the land back from the Federal government and yet the FBI is on the scene but these men are white and so they are trying to come up with a peaceful solution when most know that if they were Native American or black or brown or non-mainstream religious or Islamic especially they would have been arrested. There are a number of militia groups that are looking for a cause to get behind to bring about a revolution so it’s smart for the Feds to have restraint but now the locals are beginning to get adamant that they want these guys off the refuge and out of their area, so if the Feds don’t act, who knows if some will take it into their own hands and then the U.S. has a civil war brewing.

What that will bring about is a bigger security state, more gun control whether it’s just or not and more vigilantism like we’ve also seen on the news while more and more anger among the people builds and some with the addition of lots of meds many are on, snap and go shoot a bunch of people, which there has been a huge increase of in the last couple years.

So we are all in a pressure cooker of sorts and the pressure is being put on us all but how we respond to that pressure is based on the kind of person we have become. If we’ve been directly affected by police brutality or domestic violence or gun violence or wars abroad, (which is another huge problem with soldiers coming back from Afganistan and Iraq and learning their service was wasted and they are often haunted by those they killed or saw killed, largely for a lie they were told) then it will be harder to step back from it, especially if we remain in the cities where the sheer number of problems is exponentially mounting from many angles.

For instance in Flint, Michigan, because the govt was trying to save money they switched the water supply to the Flint River from the Detroit water company and the Flint was so full of sewage the e-coli corroded much of Flint’s water pipes house to house and people starting getting lead poisoned, causing what may be irreversible brain damage in children and very bad rashes (sores) just like we see illustrated in Rev 16:2. And there is evidence of other locations having the same kinds of problems. So these plagues are not at least at this point instigated by the Next Level except in how they have “turned up the heat, the pressure” in part because of their pulling away as while they were incarnate “Babylon” – the U.S. had not yet “fallen” as it says in prophecy it does which can be shown primarily by the 9/11 attacks and what stimulated them in the first place and the global financial robbery by wall street where many lost their homes to crooked wheeling and dealing of mortgage bundles.

So it would appear that the IMAGE has to do with the illusion of holiness through all forms of religiosity, spirituality, and honoring human achievements to include inanimate things as seen as miracles and wonders of the sciences, physical and mental, that all become man-made false idols and could be a literal holographic image like Fatima that people are tricked into worshipping and/or giving their service to.

This time period also seems to be right at the start of the Seven Angels pouring out their vials (like medicine). And that could be used to motivate the new world order as the first one seems to be related to the beasts vaccination programs they are pushing hard to make mandatory for everyone to take. (It’s not that all vaccinations are necessarily a bad thing). It’s thinking that they all are a good thing that’s the biggest problem to where many are convinced that they get herd immunity and that one person not vaccinated becomes a deadly threat to the herd, which makes no sense as if they have immunity then why would one who doesn’t be a threat. The proponents are very powerful and they could legislate criminal penalties for those who don’t want to accept their vaccination program 100%. There will be more about this in the section on the Seven Angels with Vials.

With both the Two Beasts in place, the US and EU and their Image, their spirituality and/or space alien worship, even to a hologram like Fatima, replacing perception of Creators, the judgment period is set up. Each person will be demonstrating to whom are truly aligned with between the One True Kingdom of God and Mammon (human wealth in all it’s forms) as Jesus distinguished between. This is the tribulation time period, the “winepress” being the pressure put on people to choose between that people will be willing to die for rather than align with the bestial human organizations but will find them in good stead with the Kingdom of God because of.

Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

The best interpretation of this number 666 seems to me to be the one that suggests they are representative of the Roman Numeral System in it’s base letter representations where D=500 C=100 L=50 X=10 V=5 I=1 which adds up to 666. Linking the USA with this system is quite apparent in a number of ways relative to this system, seen in the use of Roman Numerals with the Masonic pyramid on the base of the U.S. One dollar bill where 1776 is written as “MDCCLXXVI.”

Use of the pyramid is telling to the link with Egypt, the empire the Israelites were first freed from to start their 1st trimester classroom with Jehovah, Moses and Aaron that was Father, Jesus and John the Baptist in the next trimester and finally TI and DO and their two primary “helpers,” Lvvody and Jnnody, though with Lggody and Jwnody to in my way of thinking possibly constitute the 4 Living Beings in Revelations. Also on the one dollar bill, inside the top of the pyramid drawn with it’s peak separated from the body is the single Masonic and occult, “all seeing (third) eye” which is the same symbolism used on George Washington’s Masonic apron.

In these symbols the base of the pyramid is Daniel’s fourth beast that rises out of the sea of humanity and the little peak of a pyramid would be the LITTLE HORN that RISES UP TO TAKE THE WORLD, AND PERSECUTES THE CHILDREN OF GOD UPON EARTH, in Revelations 9 who comes out of the bottomless pit, their underground/undersea hiding place during the great flood with Lucifer and his associates as the Angel(s) of the Bottomless pit who uses particular space alien and human bodies as his/their pawns to satisfy their agenda against the One True Kingdom of God. The battle is first shown against the Two Witnesses in Revelations chapter 11 followed in Revelations 12 for the overcoming part of the third trimester classroom of students the Two gathered in their prophecy period as related more to TI, the “Heavenly Father” perspective. Then after they leave the battle continues among the remaining who did not graduate in their first fruit classroom as shown in Revelations 6, 13, with the rise of the fourth and final kingdom with the second beast, the EU that together with the US form the New World Order.

In terms of number systems, which is the overall indication of the meaning of 666 as a number system of identification, the first 144 digits of pi add up to 666 – 144 = (6+6) x (6+6) relating both to 144 and 12 that also relates to the western musical scale in the sequence of 10 notes – also considered the number of man.

Some additional relationships I have found in my research to decipher what can be meant by 666 and the mark of the beast that actually relate to Rome, the Latin man, to include how Jesus said those that “pierced him” would also be returning during the judgment time, to include the high priest who had him arrested, which would be both the souls and spirits and genetic descendents of the Roman government officials and the Jewish priest class.

Paul of Tarsus can be identified by the number 666 as described in:

Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that has understanding reckon the NUMBER OF THE BEAST, for it is THE NUMBER OF A MAN; and HIS number is six hundred and sixty six.

In Hebrew the number 666 is identified by the Hebrew letters TRSV, where T=400, R=200, S=60, V=6 Which TOTAL 666. TRSV is pronounced TARSU.
(Note: in scripture the place of origin often is used as part of someones name; e.g. “Jesus of Nazareth,” “Joseph of Arimathea,” “Paul of Tarsu.”

Another collaborative example in the Greek language:

THE Number 666 is the sum of the numerical value of the Greek Letters in the Greek word LATEINOS, which means “The Latin Man.” The Greek word: L A T E I N O S would have the Greek numeric value of: 30 1 300 5 10 50 70 200 = 666

The association of “Lateinos” with 666 was acknowledged, with great embarrassment, by the historian Irenaeus (ca. 130-202 A.D.),in his document ‘Against Heresies’, “For the Latins are they who at present bear rule…this being the name of the last kingdom (of the four seen by Daniel)…I will not, however, make any boast over this (coincidence)….”

In order to escape persecution and death Paul identified himself as “a man that is a Roman” in Act 22:25. The original Latins were Romans.

The first Christian pope was named “Paul.” Christian followers received ‘THE SIGN OF THE CROSS’ “ON their RIGHT HANDS and on their FOREHEADS.”

Many people have recognized how Paul’s letters conveniently began to replace what Jesus said as the foundation of Christianity, as shown by H.G. Wells (1866-1946) when he said, .” is…a fact of history that St. Paul and his successors added to,…, or imposed upon, or substituted another doctrine for…the plain…teachings of Jesus…”

As these Seals seem to be the fulfillment of the prophet Daniel, chapter 9’s “Seventy (or Seventh or Seven) Week” to where “seventy” refers to the active students taking an oath/covenant and “week” is standing for that oath, performing it seven times, thus together it is saying there are “Seventy oaths (taken, stood for) over the course of these seven (seal opening/affirmation times).” In particular there is mention of this fourth of the seven oath time periods taken which seems to be what is meant by the “midst (or middle)” of that overall “week of oath taking times (seals)” shown in Daniel chapter 9: